Okay. So I'm an older woman (5' 4" tall) and I DO USE broadfork and digging fork. If the broadfork is having a hard time penetrating the ground because you are trying to break up hard and compacted soil , then just rock the broadfork side to side and front to back. If it's really bad then break first 6 to 8 inches and on second pass go the full depth of 16 inches or so. digging fork and broadfork are for different uses. I'll broadfork a row once every three years or so. No need to do it every year unless you are driving heavy machinery over it or an ATV or walking (shame on you for walking on the rows). The handle on your broadfork looks pretty skinny. Mine is about 2" diameter heavy gauge pipe/tube. And my fork only has 5 tines or so. its spaced wide enough that I can manage to miss big rocks. I've even used my broad fork to break up a packed crushed gravel driveway. Try doing that with a digging fork or shovel or even a pick axe. Broadfork is still way cheaper than subsoiler and it doesn't require a tractor/ATV. Sure my broadfork cost about $200 but its well worth it. A really good digging fork is going to set you back close to $100.

@c0l33ng0r33

6 жыл бұрын

So rocky and i have a lot of quack grass (rysomes)

3:25 you don't have to thrust the broadfork into the soil, just step on it and utilise your bodyweigt and a bit of front to back wiggling.

I think I agree with you on all those points. I currently use a digging fork only. I still think I would like to have a broad fork because it would make the spring garden prep much faster.

I use both broad and digging forks. I'll use the broadfork to crack open hard clay ground before soaking and tilling on new beds and to open up subsoil for aeration on finished beds. The broadfork sinks right into the finished beds without any problem. I use my digging fork to work out deep rooted perennial weeds from new bed areas and to uproot larger garden plants once they're past production.

Good stuff, build myself a broadfork and stumbled on the points you mentioned. I have super dense clay here full of rocks and with me being a lightweight guy it is next to impossible to bang it into the soil in one go. It still works but is just a hard job, whichvis actually good to build some muscle and I don't do big patches anyways.

I for real dig this fork video, thanks for making it! :D

Curtis, I thank you for being Curtis. I found your channel through John Kohler, though I would have found it otherwise because you are covering everything I need to know to get my small farm started!

Now this is useful information. Thank you for sharing.

Nice overview Curtis - I really like the super burly wide "biointensive fork" or digging fork like you and Jodi/Jeavons use - and so versatile too like you mention, but in larger spaces like for tree planting and big beds we love the Meadowcreature broad fork - 16" size - amazing tool. I unearth mounds of small stones to small boulders each season with it.

I found a third option a YO-HO 6 tine manure fork. I prefer this type because the tines are a bit closer and create a better tilth quicker than the broad spaces of the digging fork. It also comes with a longer straight handle which helps me as I cannot do the constant incline needed to use the DF without a strain. I found an ancient one at a curb disposal 25 years ago and I have worn it out, literally missing the tips by 4 inches. Located an on-line farm store that delivered and the only improvement is to make the angle of the handle more in line with the blades like the DF is and eventually replace the handle with a steel pipe for the extra weight. This is my right hand in the garden and landscape work.

@ImASurvivorNThriver

7 жыл бұрын

Just wanted you to know that based on this comment, I bought this manure fork from fleet farm on-line for $22.49. I LOVE IT! I used it to to break up sandy and rocky soil in a garden bed, and it worked AMAZINGLY!!!! Thank you soooooo much for sharing this information. Because the price is right, I'm gonna order another today just to have a backup. :-)

@stevenfeil7079

5 жыл бұрын

That would only last a day or two breaking new ground. Great if you already have tilled soil.

(5:44) The digging fork looks like it can also be used for self-defense. Since it's nimble, you could probably spin it around, toss it in the air, bounce it off the ground, and use it in place of a long spear and make like a Wushu martial artist. Perhaps by doing that, you can intimidate your attackers and scare them away.

Don't bother with Treadlite. I ordered one in October 2021. I waited over A QUARTER OF A YEAR for this thing! What really upset me was that they kept pushing it back just a couple of weeks, a couple more weeks, a couple more weeks again and again, you get the point. I was never warned it would take so long to ship or even warned that they were on back order. I gave up waiting and got my money refunded. Order in march and you might have it by Christmas! Ridiculous.

great content

great video. thanks

My feet are usually sore after using a digging fork. Do you think it might be useful to try and weld a couple of foot plates on the top of it on each side of the handle kind of like one of the heavy duty short shovels you showed not too long ago?

Very heavy clay is a challenge - regardless of which fork on choses. I'm establishing new garden beds transitioning from a typical sod lawn. Breaking up the underlying clay nearly breaks my digging fork. The work is very time consuming and physically demanding and puts enormous stress on the fork. I can't imagine doing this with a broad fork.

@itsno1duh

7 жыл бұрын

I found the same issue and discovered digging a hole to the depth you need with a pick ax and pole digger (if necessary) and then use a digging fork to loosen each few inches into the space you created. I use a long handled 6 tine manure fork to loosen soil as I am tallish and hate back ache!

On non-stoney soil i wonder which tool preps an outdoor bed faster.

I have just broken yet another garden fork and need to buy a good one. I like the looks of the one you have. Which one is it. Is it stainless. What is the brand?

I have invasive noxious grasses that grow by rhizomes. I probably have an 8ft by 50ft stretch of a particular grass id like to clear. Do you have a recommendation on how to do that?

I couldn't decide, so I bought both! lol Besides, I'm a tool geek and like quality, heavy-duty stuff. I ordered the 'Peoples' Broadfork' from Meadow Creature and the fork you show here. :)

What is the brand/model of the digging fork? Thanks.

if you have a problem with the broad fork have it readjusted for your own use this is a brilliant invention stops back pain builds shoulder strength & speeds digging time also but not to fast on compacted or over grown land

1:32 just called everyone that complains about the broadfork a bunch of light weights. All you little guys just got served son!

@tjz19d

7 жыл бұрын

I would love to see some tiny guys come broadfork my plots, it would be hilarious.

@ctwofirst6635

7 жыл бұрын

So what size area are you using the broadfork on?

@worganyos

7 жыл бұрын

@tjz19d I weigh 135lbs and was used a broadfork all the time back in Cincinnati (30%+ clay soil). First year you just gotta use a tiller, after that it's just about keeping it forked and having healthy soil. Your soil only stays heavy clay if you're a bad farmer. Even so, it only takes a couple thrusts to get it 90% of the way into heavy clay soil. You don't need to be a fatass to use a broadfork, you just gotta throw it into the ground instead of stepping on it. It's a great workout for us small folk.

I think I'd preference something in between. like a broadfork in shape, but somewhat narrower than Curtis's. Also, I'd only want tines that are half the length - i.e. only penetrate half the depth. I don't like deep soil disturbance to my beds once established.

Your soil looks so loose and airy, you could practically dig into it with your fingers. I can’t get anywhere with a garden fork in my heavy, compacted clay soil. Broadfork all the way for me.

Digging fork is way cheaper as well.

@johnny96888

11 ай бұрын

You got that right $200 cheaper!

is there a video that shows what nutrients u use to feed your plants, thanks

@offgridcurtisstone

7 жыл бұрын

Compost and basic organic fertilizers. Nothing special.

@Arz547

7 жыл бұрын

+Urban Farmer Curtis Stone thanks. any thoughts on kelp extract or fermented salmon oil...the latter I Googled and found nothing but met a guy who ran a garden shop for 25 years and said he acquired it from Canada but it's not shipped into the USA anymore. kinda random but I figured I'd throw it out there. I have 2 acres I'm watching your videos trying to replicate what you do I opened a farmstand but im starting yo sell to pizza and italian restaruants as well. I know u have a music background I am an economics buff, I wonder sometimes if plunging median income is going to close lots of restaurants in the future. they say it takes 124k for a family of 4 to be middle class in the usa. 2/3 of all workers make less than 30k a year here. u are smart so I'm sure u can extrapolate that effect. u said u got out of microgreens because it got saturated, and that you were looking for the next trend and I think the aforementioned is possibly that. you have helped me by sharing what you know and I do the same in return. I wanted to tell you I appreciate what you do, your time and effort does not go unnoticed. thank you

@offgridcurtisstone

7 жыл бұрын

Many things work for fertilizer. It sounds like it might be worth a shot. Interesting thoughts on restaurants. You might be right.

@Arz547

7 жыл бұрын

does your book come in an audio version as its easier to listen than read. halfway through your seminar posted on a different channel on KZread in April 22 2016

Where's that new bcs tiller?

@offgridcurtisstone

7 жыл бұрын

Still in R&D. Working on a prototype with BCS.

DGB 💙 on coinbase! 💥🚀

I'm curious if you've got any experience with the Gulland Forge or Meadow Creature Broadforks. They might be more effective with the conditions you're working with. Modern videos of side by side comparisons would be great. I'm incredibly turned off by the Johnny's Broadfork - the tines are attached to the bottom of the crossbar with a dainty little weld. The Gulland Forge tines run across the back of the crossbar like a spine with what appear to be 3/4" welds on each side of the tine. That makes for an incredibly repairable (easy to weld) and rigid appearing design. However I've only used Johnny's and it was remarkably flimsy. Still I like the concept and am between a Meadow Creature and a Gulland Forge Big Bertha. The hard-pan style tines on the Meadow Creature and the reinforced tines on the Big Bertha are attractive. I think the Meadow Creature Farmer's Broadfork is what I'll be after ultimately as I've broken the wooden handle on just about every implement I've used a long while and at 6'3" and 200 lbs I don't think a 25 lbs broadfork will hold me back. I'm literally working on top of an ancient sand dune (it's no longer active, a town sits on it) with some organic matter on top and think the hard-pan style tines will be necessary to accomplish the depth of penetration I want to achieve as well as retaining robust quality as I yank on it. It seems the hard-pan tine is simply for greater torque and that it generally is applicable in hard-pan. Any videos of comparisons would be appreciated as I haven't found any.

@dancinmikeb

7 жыл бұрын

Eric I've heard or read many times that those Johnny's ones are great for already well-loved beds. I use my Meadow Creature 14" to break new beds here in Portland. Heavy, but indestructible.

@Bayplaces

6 жыл бұрын

I got the Farmer's Broadfork from Meadow Creature. Definitely a little heavier than a Johnny's but I'd rather not break a handle every year anyway.

$26 seemed steep for a digging fork so I fashioned one from a push broom and some old steak knives. It didn't work very well, and due to the nature of my injuries, my doctor put me on a 72 hour suicide watch. Cannot recommend.

@ImASurvivorNThriver

7 жыл бұрын

LOL!!!

Anything on extremely bad toothaches pray to rip my face off

Too much talk show us ur video n pictures

Too much redundant information

I have ruined many a garden fork by bending the tines; they just aren’t strong enough. On Amazon, if you search for “Ymachray 5-Tine Heavy Duty Pitch Fork,” there is a nice, strong Chinese garden fork for ~$50… and shipping is included!

@marcmusic9408

8 күн бұрын

Chinese lol nope