"This video will be boring." Don't lie to us.

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

😉

@rubixqoob8601

4 жыл бұрын

@@ImplicitlyPretentious have you ever thought of doing the Planet of the Apes trilogy? Seems to be an awesome ARC that challenges the very concept of man and evolution as well as fear and technology.

"And through all of this, we learn that we can all be like Batman." But, given everything you just said... Do we want to be?

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

That's a good point actually

@-Lindol-

4 жыл бұрын

Astral Vagabond Yes, because the alternative is worse.

@imperfect_dan7519

4 жыл бұрын

@@-Lindol- That really depends. Is there a corrupt city that you live in plus do you find it hard to move on from past traumas

@darkzq

3 жыл бұрын

That’s my main gripe about the trilogy. We can all work towards a better world be we can’t all be Batman. I know this isn’t supposed to be taken literally, but in hindsight that’s my main issue with the trilogy: Batman is a symbol yes, but call me a purist I think that symbol must be careed by Bruce. That and him wanting to not be Batman anymore, like as soon as the second movie starts, he wants out and wants Harvey to be the new hero in town. Bruce was portrayed as someone rational and determined and that’s all fine, but Batman is not quite that: he doesn’t want to stop and, as stated in some comics, admits he probably wouldn’t know how. He’s obsessed in that sense and rarely see beyond his crusade. Batman is more an end than a means to an end in that sense. Welp, wasn’t planning on writing this much lol, feedback welcome.

@TaysanGalovu

3 жыл бұрын

@@darkzq the way I see it, there's two sides to the character of Batman/Bruce Wayne: a tragic side and an inspiring side. The tragic side is his childhood trauma, how it causes his suffering, obsession, desire for revenge and directs him towards a dark path. The inspiring side is how he confronts that darkness within himself and turns in into something constructive, pushing himself to become better (in many different ways). I think Nolan just sees the latter as the more defining part of the character.

The idea of Batman being incompatible with Bruce Wayne but they both exists as a defense mechanism to past trauma...That hit way too close to home. Thks for shining light on this interpretation.

@stephenstephen344

4 жыл бұрын

waaaay too close to home.

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! :)

Bruce’s journey, rather than Batman’s journey. A simple observation, but a powerful one. Canonically speaking, Batman is the dominant personality and that absolutely formed my perspective on the character in the films. Bruce at the cafe always seems like a throw away rather than a legitimate alternate take on the character of Bruce Wayne. I’d never considered how subversive the Nolan trilogy is on that fundamental level.

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Aww that's a great way to put it! I kind I wish I said that now 😂

It's amazing that each film basically ends with one of Bruce's three distinct personas (Batman, the rich playboy and the real Bruce Wayne) taking over the others: - Batman Begins ends with him having Batman being his main persona - The Dark Knight ends with him having to lie and adopting his reclusive rich man persona - The Dark Knight Rises finally ends with him coming to terms with his tragedies, discarding his other identities and being at peace with himself.

Its been 7 years since the trilogy finished and the fact that people are still making KZread videos on it shows that it still remains a masterclass in cinema, acting, themes, film score, rising tension, dialogue, action and story writing. Batman begins is the perfect opening and has the some of the best story structure I've ever seen, The Dark Knight is phenomenal with establishing and building tension, perfectly crafting the ultimate villain and while Rises seems a bit sloppy, Nolan still delivers what is a truly epic film that is a far cry from bad, oozing with themes and a gold mine for film analysts. It remains as one of my all time favourite movie trilogies alongside lord of the rings. No superhero movie will top The Dark Knight, step aside Endgame.

Christian Bale did a great job as Batman

@Ar1AnX1x

4 жыл бұрын

WHERES THE TRIGGER?? YOU WOULDNT GIVE IN TO AN ORDINARY SHITIZHEN

@h.b.smith_writer

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ar1AnX1x Incoherent comment beating an old joke.

@BBK113

3 жыл бұрын

His my batman just like how Heath Ledger is my joker

@Brandonhayhew

3 жыл бұрын

Nobody can be as great as them

@BATMAN-hk7sx

3 жыл бұрын

I see no lies

these movies feel like a Greek Tale, The Oddysey of the Batman

These movies are just a gift to cinema in general. The dark knight trilogy is a character study film disguised as a summer comicbook movie blockbuster and a true testament to Nolan's ability as a filmmaker. He's truly one of the best director of this era. Also great vid👍

Don’t know how you can turn out so much high quality content so quickly. Kudos.

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! And yeah I just do a bit a day and then before I know it, it's finished in less than a week 😂

I like to think that “The Dark Knight Rises” and “Logan” are both great companion films. They both tell the end of a beloved heroes journey . There are only two ends for a superhero you die like Logan or you come to peace with your past and move beyond it like Bruce. Both men at the beginning of both films are mourning lost loves that they are personally responsible for killing. Logan runs away and never really moves on from the death of Jean, and is slowly committing suicide until he has to sacrifice himself for X-23. Bruce allows himself to open up and move on once Alfred tells him about Rachel, and has a whole new life thanks to Selena..

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah that's a great point! I suppose it's the great ultimatum for characters who've shaped themselves to the great pains in their lives

@Thespeedrap

4 жыл бұрын

Huh I never thought about that both characters are my favorite heroes Batman and Wolverine.I wish I could a Bible character look like Batman and wolverine for a trilogy.

@_alexfoster

4 жыл бұрын

Also iron man and captain America Iron man sacrifices himself And Cap has a very similar ending to Batman having a happy life beyond his shield

@_alexfoster

4 жыл бұрын

Mark James thanks bro

@rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168

4 жыл бұрын

Jean Grey had nothing to do with Logan. She was a major part of The Wolverine though.

How in the name of Chronos can you talk about the formative effects of trauma.. this eloquently?! I'm gonna sue the English language for having so inadequate a number of words to describe how magnificent this video essay is.

This video hit me in the feels. Thank you.

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Holy cow thanks!

Dark knight is still one of the best superhero trilogies

@YTChannel420

4 жыл бұрын

THE best

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah!

@thelittlepasty8360

4 жыл бұрын

YT Channel beat me to it

@markuskosmo

4 жыл бұрын

I think I love the Spider-Man trilogy and the Captain America-trilogy over it, but just by a little bit.

@ArmourExe

4 жыл бұрын

Dude... Its the best.

Finally, someone said it out loud on KZread. I honestly get so pissed when I see reviewers or "critics" saying that Bruce should've died, that the idea that he can leave Batman behind is herecy, that the ending is weak because Nolan didn't have balls to kill Bruce, or (and yes, I've seen that somewhere) that in the end Bruce gives himself up to trauma because he chooses to live his life as Bruce Wayne, not as Batman. The ending of TDK trilogy is one of the best franchise endings I've ever seen. It shows a man who was able to move on, to leave his pain behind and to start a new life, hopefully - a better one. And I think this ending is actually more badass that Bruce dying for the city. It would be so easy to kill Batman in the end - but it would destroy all deeper meaning behind Bruce's journey (and boy, do I have a lot to say about that, lol). Of course, the third movie would've been different if Heath lived, but I believe the ending itself wouldn't have been that different. And as a side note, yes, TDKR is flawed. But it doesn't mean it's not good. We live in the age of this subjective vs objective discourse, and for some reason a lot of people kinda forgot that flaws don't necessarily ruin a movie to a point of it being bad. A lot of good movies have flaws. A lot of great movies have tons of flaws. But what makes them good or great is the fact that they don't have flaws and flaws only. They also have things to appreciate, to discuss, to love. This is the most important thing. And I would rather watch a technically flawed movie with substance than a perfectly crafted but hollow one.

@h.b.smith_writer

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. It was a brilliant and ballsy way to end the series.

@kyleco9149

2 жыл бұрын

I felt like Dark knight rises was the answer to DCAU batman to where that the idea of a happy life is just alien to him to the point he stayed as batman until his older years.

Damn I can’t wait for this channel to get big. These videos are amazing, keep up the high quality!

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Aww thanks! The prospect freaks me out though 😂

I just really appreciate a video essay that challenges me to think. Many of the good ones feature those moments that couch the pithy or inspirational--and I like that, don't get me wrong. (The internet should be home to more than vitriolic, or even well-researched well-meaning, criticism.) But to be wise, and also challenging, that's a balance very few of these achieve. I just love your videos.

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Aww thank you so much! And yeah I agree, that's what's so great about online space there's an infinite amount of corners for so many perspectives on film that postive or negative everyone can have fun :)

He's learning to be Bruce again, remember what Rachel said at the end of Begins, "No, the Bruce I loved never came back home" Shame he only understood that after she died. (I don't know if he mentioned this I haven't finished the video)

I’m an editor and a writer and this video essay is phenomenal as a tool to help distill the hero’s journey for writers of all stripes. I’ve always pointed to this trilogy as a great example, but this video will help immensely.

I want you to deconstruct and narrate *my* life now.

@wokeartist1240

4 жыл бұрын

Hahah true

I wrote a final essay for a mythology class back in college (in 2012) about the Hero's Journey in the Dark Knight trilogy. That same year I also did a final essay on the trilogy & Post-9/11 themes.

Bro, I really hope you do a video on Joker (2019).

I just gotta stop the video for a second, keep this up man. Even when nobody's watching, keep. This. Up, alright back to the video lol

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Aww thanks! That's really flattering that you took the time! :)

This wasn't even boring for me. Great video :)

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Aww thanks! That's a relief, cuz I thought I sounded really dry and formal during the whole thing!

@sonny5387

4 жыл бұрын

@@ImplicitlyPretentious no, not at all

@Thespeedrap

4 жыл бұрын

That's because it's a com*c book movies not other genres.

"This video is going to het a bit boring guys." NEVER!!!!!

These films really have many layers, one of my favourites is social aspect. Very good video, lots to think about.

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

The Dark Knight Rises is extremely underrated

@gaboon7777

4 жыл бұрын

BangoBuck87 not really

@spencermalley10

4 жыл бұрын

@@gaboon7777 Well It definitely gets a lot of unnecessary flack.

@fantasynerd3695

4 жыл бұрын

I also think that

@h.b.smith_writer

4 жыл бұрын

I don't know. It's highly rated among critics and a vast number of film fans.

@mrglass8129

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

None of your videos are boring. Its like poetry, a gentle intellectual dance you take us on, a safe adventure you're allowing us to travel; that's how I feel whenever I watch your videos. ❤💜💙💚💛

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Aww thank you so much! That's easily one of the nicest things anyone has ever said about my work!😊

@anethkiray

4 жыл бұрын

@@ImplicitlyPretentious No problem! I hope you're well and happy today! 💜

"I'm Batman". 🦇🦇🦇 (In Bales "bat voice")

This is a wonderfully well-made video essay on Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight trilogy. Your words about the Hero's Journey helped me get past the otherwise restrictive format when developing the framework of my personal years-long project/story.

So good, man. I appreciate your work! You do an amazing job deconstructing films and drawing back the layers of a movie from a viewer's perspective that understands the director's objective. Thank you.

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I wasn't sure if this video came out well, so that's a real relief that you enjoyed it! :)

I love how Christopher Nolan decided to make a trilogy about Bruce Wayne and his journey as Batman and seeing how it not only effects Bruce himself, but also Gotham City and those around him. It’s amazing how Nolan and company were able to craft a beginning, middle and end while putting Bruce Wayne up with different obstacles he not only has to overcome to save Gotham but to become a better person himself. I love the story of Bruce Wayne in this trilogy, I love Christian Bale’s performance as Bruce Wayne/Batman… I just love this trilogy. Great video man, keep up the great work!

such an underrated channel man

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Oh wow, thank you!

wonderful video to start the week, thanks!

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

You’re right that Bruce was possessed by Batman.

Your editing is just amazing

amazing video, great channel. i'm glad to be around for the beginning.

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Aww thank you!

Thank you for this and all the other videos 💪

Love your content, man

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Your videos are never boring, I’m sure you know that by now.

Joker is out but people are still doing videos about Nolan’s Batman. I’m loving this.

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I don't think there's ever going to be an end to the Nolan Batman essays, they're fun to watch and also fun to write about it! :)

@jojkata15

4 жыл бұрын

Implicitly Pretentious Nolan’s trilogy is simply legendary. Keep up the good work! :))

@Thespeedrap

4 жыл бұрын

That's because Nolan a great filmmaker and he used a trilogy character to follow not just a typical come book superhero like the other franchises and heroes.

@h.b.smith_writer

4 жыл бұрын

People are still discussing this trilogy today, and that means a lot for films that were released years ago. They're also my top 3 favorite superhero films.

"We can all be Batman, if we unlock the powers from the other side." Gotcha. I shall begin the ritual.

Amazing deconstruction and explanation of the Dark Knight Trilogy's story! Amazing work!

So amazing and not boring at all 👍

"this video will be boring" This is BATMAN...

This, I like. So many of these essays can't let go of the impulse to criticize the execution of a piece of media. It's nice to see an acknowledgement of the ambitious themes in media, even of they're done imperfectly. You actually used the word "grandiosity" here, which suggested you were inspired by the essay about Spider-Man 3 by "Like Stories of Old", which examined a famously unsatisfying film from the standpoint of the challenging subject it attempted to address. Here, you are doing the same, acknowledging the bravery of The Dark Knight Rises for trying to tackle an emotional subject that makes the film's target audience deeply uncomfortable. Sometimes the subject itself is more important than how well it's expressed in the particular piece of media. And it deserves appreciation.

What a great interpretation. Beautifully done.

12:47 Rises didn't need Talia. Bane should have been the main villain trying to succeed where Ra's failed by destroying Gotham and proving that he, who'd been loyal to the League of Shadows only to be kicked out because Bane's injuries from his beating by the Pit's prisoners reminded Ra's he'd left his wife to be raped and murdered down there was the better student.

@petermj1098

9 ай бұрын

Bane is a evil Batman in TDKR who takes Batman’s armory and shares his martial arts. Talia is a evil Bruce Wayne who takes Bruce’s company and shares his business skills. Bane brought pain to Batman while Talia brought pain to Bruce Wayne.

Nice! I just mentioned this to you few weeks ago. Glad it's out now. Could you do one for each movie.thanks man love your work

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Aww thanks! And yeah I'm considering it, since I have some left over notes during the writing process that could totally grow into individual essays, so we'll see!

Phenomenal interpretation! Thank you!

I love your work. Found your channel about two months ago and i'm not regretting it. Have you thought about doing more Video game videos and would making a series of retrospective videos about each Star Wars trilogy leading up to The rise of Skywalker be a idea you would consider?

The dark knight is the defining Film of the kids born in the 90s!

Implicitly pretentious but I love it! This one was not boring at all, dont apologize for it!

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Aww thank you! I thought my voice was really dry and formal during it so I'm relieved that you didn't find it boring or anything! :)

Out of these 3 films Batman Begins Is my favorite

My fav trilogy!

@h.b.smith_writer

4 жыл бұрын

Mine too! All 3 films are terrific.

Entirely unimportant and unrelated: this video reminded me how stellar the CGI on Two-Face is considering The Dark Knight was made in 2008.

The dark knight trilogy one of the greatest superhero movies of all time

EL CAMINO I BEG OF YOU still love your stuff btw

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah, I've written an essay plan for it, so it should be out some time next week if I can keep my schedule on course :)

@pilotflux8005

4 жыл бұрын

@@ImplicitlyPretentious RAD, cant wait

This was a great video but did anyone else hear a high pitch ringing sound throughout the video?

What’s the track that plays at the beginning of , “The Return,” phase?

Videos get better and better

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Oh wow thanks! I wasn't wholly sure this video came out right, so that's a real relief! :)

Batman in batman begins really has a flat arc not that he doesn't change but he's not really going from believing a lie and get to know the truth. He's a flat arc because he already knows the truth but the lie is fighting back. It really works well.

2019 and still talking about these awesome movies

I never thought of this til now(of course on a video from 3 years ago assuring no one will actually read this🤦🏻‍♂️). Nolan always wanted these movies to be as realistic as that kind of material can be(there are obvious exceptions since certain comic book tropes can’t work in the real world) like “if this was real this is what it would be like”. They succeeded and they did it beautifully at every turn,the one I never thought of til now is that this is the only iteration that I know of where Bruce Wayne successfully retires from being Batman and goes on to live his own life unrelated to his time under the mask,there may be an Elseworlds or out of continuity one shot that I’m not aware of and I’m excluding Beyond or Kingdom Come since in both of those he’s still continuing his mission in a different way. What’s so cool about Nolan doing that is that it’s also how it would happen if it were real,they’d see it as a temporary operation with an end goal in mind. In a comic the goal can never actually be achieved because it would end the series so every story after a character’s origin is an endless second act,it has to just keep going on and on indefinitely. Idk why it took me so long to realize that final bit of verisimilitude in the DK trilogy and I just never even thought of what Bruce Wayne’s post Batman life would be like because there never is one unless it’s a plot device to set up his return. Well that was a rambling mess🤣

I asked and you delivered

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Aww I hope it was up to quality! :)

Puffs. The coco for which the antagonist goes cuckoo is in the form of puffs, not pops. - Joseph Campbell

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Truly wise words, that Mr Campbell

Fantastic video on my favorite Movie Trilogy ever. I love when people talk about these films and I’m grateful you didn’t tear into The Dark Knight Rise too much because, flawed though it may be, I still think it’s a great ending and an exceptional movie. I love your channel and I love your thoughts on these movies and how you make me think about them on a deeper level. Keep up the quality content!

And of course, always be yourself unless you can be the Batman, be the Batman.

How in the ever living hell do you make SO MUCH excellent content? You've been dropping 14-20 minute videos every three days it seems. We'll forgive you if you want to slow down!

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Oh wow that's insanely flattering! Thank you! It actually makes me feel better for not uploading twice a week anymore 😂

First! xD Will edit this in after I watch the video. Expecting something beautiful ♥️

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Holy cow, thanks!

Jon Bernthal's The Punisher character is also an interesting journey of the anti-hero giving a visceral spin of the vengeful hero trope. Frank Castle already has PTSD out of the horrors of war, but there's a disconnect between his humanity and being a soldier, suffering is a byproduct of his war vocation, and knew about it ahead of time and accepted it for better or worse like many veterans. Forward to the loss of his family in senseless violence where he is just a man, he cannot explain away the pain, he is broken beyond human capacity. Where Batman has a noble war against crime so no one else suffers, The Punisher is on a constant suicide mission so no one else suffers. His goal is to give the death of his family meaning where there was none, and a soldier's death for that meaning will give him peace and closure. Unfortunately that drive is what makes him use every means to win in that time. He survives, he suffers further, his loss has meaning, he keeps fighting. He knows he will fall, but under his terms, his peace will be suffering more than his family in the end, but he kept fighting as he dies. Something his family never had a chance to do so

There's a Screen Rant theory that The Joker is a former black ops veteran *&* / or is really trying yo save Gotham from itself--and Bruce's vigilantism

Whats the music at 2:10

Nice to see a Dark Knight trilogy analysis video that goes beyond Heath Ledger’s Joker. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a great character and performance. But the trilogy has so much to offer too.

@h.b.smith_writer

4 жыл бұрын

I definitely agree.

I rewatched this trilogy not too long ago. And Gotdamn is it incredible!!!!!! I'm looking forward to this vid

'hi. i appreciate your videos . what were resources you used for this video? especially:"only way to overcome trauma is to not to restore yourself it is to completly reinvent yourself with the new narrative to approptiate the truamatic experience"?

what is the music at the very end?

i never thought of selina like that after all she's the reason his spine got broken

I would love to see your take on Deadpool

Well made video! The kind that makes me motivated to try and making essays of my own. I'm actually a little surprised you didn't mention young Bruce asking that they leave the theater when they did _specifically_ because he saw performers dressed as bats. I think his initial feeling of guilt for the sequence of events (which is even referenced later by Ducard, showing that he still feels guilt as an adult) shows a solid connection between the trauma that created the fear and the trauma of his parent's death. Making it both poetic in how Nolan framed the events of the murders to tie so much into bat imagery, and a strong additional argument to your analysis.

I know this may be odd, but since you did Master Chief from the Halo games in a previous video, can you be able to do BJ Blazkowickz from the Wolfenstein Series from Machinegames? The New Order, The New Colossus, and optionally in Youngblood and The Old Blood as well.

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

I've only played new order and new colossus, and I'd love to, cuz I love those games, but it's also dependent on when the third main instalment comes out cuz I want to analyse BJ's whole journey from begining to end, so I know what the preferred understanding of his arc and the trilogy is! :)

Great video! I agree on mostly everything, but there's one thing I still can't explain to myself: the gap between TDK and TDKR, and what happened in those eight years. Gordon's (beautiful) final speech was one of both hope and resignation. He acknowledged that chaos and madness won't go away from Gotham, but also that a man - Batman - will always be there to fight them. A man, a hero, that is born from chaos itself, and so he can fight it without being corrupted or destroyed. Joker clearly states it, when he says "you and I are destined to do this forever". TDK's ending, to me, was that. Bruce realizes that he is indeed cursed to be Batman forever, but he also accepts that curse for the good of his city. Where, at the end of Begins, he had hoped that there would have been an ending term to his mission as Batman, in TDK he understands that's not the case. He's the only one that can do it, and so he must. He's the only one capable of enduring the same pain that turned Harvey Dent and the Joker into monsters... and still NOT break. Where losing Rachel broke Harvey, it didn't break Bruce. That was the whole point. So... how is that coherent with the fact that Bruce DID indeed give up the same night TDK ended? The conclusion is that Bruce and Harvey were not different at all. They just broke in different ways. P.S. I don't have the absolute truth in my pocket, so if someone got the Nolans' intentions better than me and has a different opinion, I'm more than open to dialogue :)

@spencermalley10

4 жыл бұрын

TDK's ending was about Bruce realizing Batman's malleability as a symbol, that doesn't necesarrily equate to "I must do this for the rest of his life". I think if the movie was really building towards what you say, He wouldn't have taken the blame for Harvey's murders to preserve his image, He would've said "Harvey may have fallen but they still have me".

@h.b.smith_writer

4 жыл бұрын

@Spencer Malley I completely agree. Some fans had the misconception that Bruce Wayne must continue to be Batman for the rest of his life. In this universe he couldn't.

@rickblaine9670

4 жыл бұрын

I didn’t say it was impossible for the third movie to give him a conclusion. It was. Even if Bruce in that moment may believe that what the Joker said is true, that he is destined to do this forever, this isn’t necessarily true. But I don’t see him having that utterly depressed attitude after the death of Rachel. Just dropping everything and becoming a hermit. The Batman persona already is a symptom of Bruce Wayne’s depression. He is in perpetual mourning for the death of his parents. Like Gordon says, and he’s talking about the symbol but also about the man, Batman is not like any other guy. Batman can take losses that other guys can’t, simply because mourning and pain are part of his daily routine since he was 10 years old. The way he reacts to Rachel’s death looks like how I could see Spider-Man reacting to Gwen’s death. He’s a kid, that was his first love, he’s utterly broken. I could see him dropping Spider-Man for some years after that. But Bruce Wayne is not a kid. He’s a grown man who already went through hell multiple times. He’d suffer, but he’d go on. And even more than that, he’s a grown man who’s on what he sees as a holy crusade. He’s not like other heroes that just want to do some good while going on with their daily lives. For Bruce, Batman IS his life. And again, the third movie could have dealt with this. Bruce coming to terms with his choices and being able to pass on the Batman mantle. It’s an ending I find a bit too optimistic for the nature of the character (I prefer the Arkham trilogy’s ending), but it can be done. But making him act that way between TDK and TDKR... no, I don’t see it as something the character would do.

@h.b.smith_writer

4 жыл бұрын

@Fred Marble Bruce didn't give up being Batman over Rachel's death. Her death haunts him but he had to give up because the Dent Act rendered Batman ineffective. Bruce worked to help Gotham as a billionaire for five years, and when he couldn't continue with his fusion reactor he then became a recluse for three years (this was clearly addressed in the film). It was the series of failures that brought Bruce down and not just his duty as Batman, which is why he was waiting for the opportunity to go out again (he was still being Batman but not in costume). Besides, if a person like Bruce Wayne in real life became Batman and went through what happened in The Dark Knight, they'd probably burn out too. Bruce is human. He does basically come to terms with it by the end with passing the mantle, etc. If you don't like it based on your taste, that's fine. I however believe that it makes complete sense for the story that Nolan wanted to tell. This ending breaks away from the traditional mold of Batman, and the optimism works because there is hope found throughout all three films. It doesn't mean that matters will never go bad again though, so the ending made the compromise with giving this version of Bruce Wayne what he deserved while giving Gotham hope for the future.

@rickblaine9670

4 жыл бұрын

Hunter Smith I was under the impression Bruce’s hermit lifestyle was a direct consequence of TDK’s events, not of the nuclear reactor project’s failure. At least on an emotional level. I guess I’ll have to rewatch the movie. About the Dent Act straight out eliminating all organized crime and making Batman unnecessary... don’t know, that’s another thing that seems pretty unrealistic to me. It isn’t clear what this Dent Act even was to begin with. Did it give the police the power to arrest or execute any person they thought might be part of a criminal family? Looks like that would be the only way to completely eliminate organized crime from a city as corrupted and rotten as Gotham (or even from an average city, actually), although with the considerable collateral damage of prosecuting innocent people too. The notion itself of a single law eliminating all crime is unrealistic, if not downright utopistic. Or distopic, depending on your p.o.v. . No matter how angry people were over Dent’s death.

Love this trilogy but his Bat voice always always made it hard for me to enjoy his Batman.

@h.b.smith_writer

4 жыл бұрын

I never had a problem with his Batman voice.

Bro your words touched my damn soul. You were able to express what I already felt about the trilogy in words. Thank you so much for that 🌱🙏

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What does figma mean?

Why is it that in every dialogue in today’s dramatic movies are spoken in a whisper?

Sure, he doesn't murder a peasant but he murders the whole Order of Assassin by making the barrels explode, destroying the whole temple.

@13jonash

4 жыл бұрын

Keyser94 there were roughly 30 or so ninja in that explosion which is pretty much the same amount we see later in Batman Begins and in Rises so it’s possible he didn’t actually kill any of them.

@TheKeyser94

4 жыл бұрын

@@13jonash Sure, is also possible that pig fly and the Easter bunny come in Christmas.

@Sefoskiii

4 жыл бұрын

John Petrinolis It’s also possible that those weren’t the only ninjas in the League of Shadows. In a franchise that tries to be as grounded in reality as possible, showing people get flung around by explosions is the most explicit way to show that they’re dead

@h.b.smith_writer

4 жыл бұрын

Bruce's act there wasn't a deliberate act of murder, which is what he's against. It's possible that several of them escaped despite some accidental deaths. Bruce Wayne/Batman's actions may lead to some accidental deaths in the trilogy but he still maintains his values, such as not killing the peasant who was in a vulnerable position and unable to harm anyone.

@TheKeyser94

4 жыл бұрын

@@h.b.smith_writer One thing that I despise is hypocrisy, in comics they not have this issue because they occasionally kill some villains, but in movies and other media they always portray heroes as paragons of virtue, even that they still kill criminals as well in those media. And that is only made worse by the people that idolise heroes.

Bruce Wayne is The Bateman, Patrick Bateman

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Aww I wish I added some sort of Bateman meme in there now

I was looking for this video not 5 days ago... weird.

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Oh wow, I'm glad to be of service!

"... this lie will come to estrange people from reality." EXACTLY why I don't to or condone lieing: it's giving others false data points--which disempowers them

Cool

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@gratscott5632

4 жыл бұрын

@@ImplicitlyPretentious all your videos are really good. I'm trying to learn from your videos to boost my lit grade. Thanks.

Thanks..... you made me realize more that the character depicted in this trilogy wasn't the Batman from the comics at all...... the Dark Knight was the best movie ever made with a guy called Batman in it...... But it wasn't a Batman movie..... it was a Joker movie with some Batdude bothering him.....lol

It isn't implicitly pretentious, it's just pretentious. Just kidding, love the videos

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

Lol thanks :)

The only problem with this trilogy is that Batman Begins feels more like a comic than the other 2. Gotham looks more like Gotham in BB. They filmed a lot of New York/Chicago for TDK/TDKR. I think Gotham looked better and more fictional in Batman Begins

@antona.1327

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think you actually understood the geography of the city. Gotham looks the same in all three films. The version of Gotham you're calling "fictional" wasn't Gotham itself; it was an island called Narrows, that was bridged with Gotham. And they all feel like the comics. The Dark Knight has non-existent sonar technology that could only exist in a comic, plus it has a Batcycle morphing from the Batmobile. The Dark Knight Rises in itself is one giant piece comic fan-service. The whole plot revolving around Bane threatening Gotham with an atomic weapon is taken from Batman: Bane comic.

@JD43232

4 жыл бұрын

@@antona.1327 Wll then i just liked the vibe and colour setting better during Batman Begins. It became more static overtime

@h.b.smith_writer

4 жыл бұрын

@@antona.1327 I don't know if the storyline with the bomb was an intentional reference to that Bane comic, but it could be given David S. Goyer's a comic book aficionado.

@h.b.smith_writer

4 жыл бұрын

There are influences from the comics for sure but it's not purely fan service. It's in there to serve a compelling story, and it was also based on elements of the classic novel A Tale of Two Cities.

@h.b.smith_writer

4 жыл бұрын

I enjoy the aesthetic in the other two films. TDK is supposed to feel like cities we know, and same in TDKR before it turns into a desolate, apocalyptic winterscape city. Each film has it's own feel to it, but I can understand if you liked BB's Gotham the best.

Okay I have a theory. Batman died in the explosion. However he still lives on. Ras al gul (sorry for my spelling) always visited Bruce in the movies even after he is dead. Ras talked about legends live on and that his immortality works like a legend. I think once Batman became a legend Bruce became immortal

@SunflowerSpotlight

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting. Like a Tulpa or something? Or almost like an idea horcrux? Enough people believe in the idea, then the idea keeps you here? Huh. That is definitely an interesting take.

@h.b.smith_writer

4 жыл бұрын

It's fact that Bruce Wayne lived, but figuratively Batman died and Bruce lived on so I see where you're coming from.

What is the orchestral music… I think Beethoven or Canon??

a man of steel video in the future?

@ImplicitlyPretentious

4 жыл бұрын

I have an idea for it, specifically focusing on a genre analysis, but that would have to be later down the line since I want to do a couple of videos on the Richard Donner films first

@RyogaEchizen

4 жыл бұрын

@@ImplicitlyPretentious thanks for replying.

@Scroteydada

4 жыл бұрын

Subverting the subversion is just stating the staus quo. Man of steel was not as clever as it thought it was.

Love the videos, watched this one maybe three times. One thing that I have to say because I feel like it absolutely has to be. To say the dark knight rises is a flawed film is unfair by a long shot. To say it’s deeply flawed is just wrong. It’s considered lesser because you compare to it’s predecessor. Not fair and I’ll prove it. If you take the dark knight out of existence and you make TDR the second film in the series you would fighting people in the streets for saying Batman begins is better. Batman begins maybe the best origin story movie we’ll ever get but what super movie have we gotten that ends a entire that’s better then Dark Knight Rises? Endgame doesn’t count it’s a continuation without familiar characters. I know that’s arguable but so is that endgame is better then DKR. In my opinion it’s not. To me DKR is as good as any other super hero movie ever made. I remember the year it come out the same year as Avengers. I’ve never bought the Avengers on any platform but I bought the DKR the day it come out on DVD. I got the blue ray SE downloadable whatever. Keep in mind to most it is a disappointment compared to the Dark Knight but it had the balls to commit to a ending, something dark Knight did not do. All of this being said with all the work after Heath Ledgers (who won the first Oscar for a performance in a super hero movie) Death. They had to make a movie that would end Hollywood’s biggest trilogy since Star Wars without its breakout star. For a lot of the psychological reasons you point out this film trilogy has made a giant impact on my life. With the duality of hero and villains and the journey. How can you end something so epic filled with that much baggage and tragedy any better? Maybe if heath ledger survived and something else was made but probably out generations greatest film maker redefined cinema and story telling endings with both hands tied behind his back. So I don’t see how anyone could logically prove how anyone could have done better. Thanks for the videos your probably done reading If you still are at all but I at least appreciate it all and I’m also willing to defend my position against any troll that comes across this. Because that’s what Batman taught me?...