follow up vid out now! kzread.info/dash/bejne/oINlqsmRqMawXZM.html

@dfh658

9 ай бұрын

thank you for sharing

I have a PhD in Theory and Technique of Electronic Music from the Conservatory of Florence, been studying and making music professionally for more than 10 years and let me tell you, videos like yours are a precious resource, both for beginners trying to wrap their heads around difficult concepts, and for veterans, who often need to be reminded of why they started making music. You have the perfect mix of knowledge and enthusiasm, got yourself a subscriber. If I may suggest a subject for a future video, many people have a hard time with arrangement, it could be interesting. I might start my own tutorial channel someday, you're inspiring me. Cheers mate!

@kingo5940

Жыл бұрын

lovely comment

@tommythecat4961

Жыл бұрын

@@kingo5940 I just love seeing a passionate kid make a good video, lots of people go with the usual "one weird trick to sound just like Skrillex" which is just wrong on so many levels. No need to be scared by music theory or mixing, they're not easy but otherwise where is the fun! It takes years to master them, but once you do it all comes together and it's worth it, instead of renouncing after 6 months because you don't sound like the greats, like some asshole has promised you.

@TheJa12346

Жыл бұрын

​@@tommythecat4961I love posting constructive comments like this too, don't have all the credentials, but still 😂. I appreciate the input man 🙏

@aichi337

Жыл бұрын

Great 👌

@3moryk

Жыл бұрын

what a wholesome comment holy gwakamoly!

I feel like there's some self-titled veterans who think that clipping should be an absolute last resort, but if you look out for it it's everywhere. It's a go-to for all extreme music.

pls make more, you are so good at explaining stuff.

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

really?? I thought I was stumbling over my words a lot in the original recording 😭 thank you though! I'll be posting a new vid soon so don't worry :>

@musicmediaproductions

Жыл бұрын

@@mil3sperhour Make More!! Great Video!! Thank you so much for this amazing and super helpful video!

@MadNoisy

Жыл бұрын

I'll join the party ^^ And subbed 🤘

@sylasoce6376

Жыл бұрын

i have no clue what hes fkn talking about XD

I been producing for 7 years now and you’ve explained mixing better than any other KZread tutorial I’ve watched in that time. S tier content mate, keep it up

thank you for the upload! u don’t know how much this is helping the community! appreciate it!

Thank you so so much for making this! For a while now I've been trying to understand the whole "clipping is actually a good thing for bass music" thing because I used to obsess with the "it needs to be -6dB" stuff and you've put it neatly into one video. Thank you!

7:17 I'm pretty sure this is what Skrillex did repeatedly in his "Mumbai Power" track. You can hear a bit of noise attached to the transients of his Kick and Sub in that track.

Sick vid, good explanations of the concepts! Keep it up bruh

you've made me see mixing and master in a whole new way... thank you.

I've been playing around here lately with putting Gclip on my master, I just didn't realize that I could get it to do that much work on bringing those peaks down though. That's insane. I don't even use Ableton and despite that this was still such useful advice, man. Thanks 👌🤙

This is great man! Good stuff

That is a killer groove right there 👹

The white noise doing so much, covering the clipping kick sound, its insane!

Good Tutorial broo, never stop uploading

Damn, couldn't have explained it better myself man! I hope more people get a chance to see it from the POV fr 🙏🙏

Very helpful with this video. Didn't think to push the audio like that. Great job

Great video! Thanks for walking us through your mixing style. lol at first I was afraid I was going to have to listen to that telephone hold music in the background the entire video.

This was amazing. Thank you

Big fan here! Glad to find your youtube! Defyre gang!!!

Just realized this was your only video! Great 1st vid! Would be cool to watch music making from start to finish. I make Tech House, and mess with Bass House sometimes, and play with som dubstep/riddim, yet I suck at it.

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

I'll give that a go after the next video! been wanting to try to make some knock2 type bass house

this is actually so swag

@zackyzackyzacky1

Жыл бұрын

On god bruh

I needed this. thank you. pls make more videos

Super helpful, thank you sm!!

perfect video actaully

Holy shit that preview blew me away. Shits nutty.

nice track breakdown... and a nice track. :)

awesome video actually

this makes my brain go 300 mil3sperhour 🤯🤯

thank you so much .

So that’s it ? No export to another master session and add mastering chain ? Just straight mix , clip and export ? Damn love this .

Thank you for the info! Imo that's an actually useful tutorial.

great tut!

this is good i like this very good nice job

so helpful💖💖💖

Great vid. Love the depth you go into for everything. 🔥

Your way is how I always mix/master. I push into the master with only a few plugins to mono the sub and clip (gclip) at the end 😂 The secret comes from the mixing.

usefull ahh video, thanks

Thank you 💯

Great video

Great content

Holy moly!

Man I was really hoping you had some other videos. This was really good though.

Good video!!!

luv u

very useful information

@sapphi31

Жыл бұрын

frontiers is peak tho

1:28 already subbed!!! Keep Posting content!!!!

Good vid. More pls

thanks for making this video, this topic is so hard to get info on for these louder genres

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

no problem, made it for that very reason! its really hard to find any good info on dubstep mixing simply because so much on youtube is cluttered with sound design/"secret sauce" tutorials (i hate that sauce term so much bleggh). i think mixing is so vital when it comes to making the elements in your track come to life, not so much based on wether or not you have a cool gun bass.

@metikmusic6066

Жыл бұрын

Literally this has been the biggest learning curve coming from decades of hip hop production and vocal engineering, it’s something I definitely underestimated

Nice one

Good to know what I was doing actually makes sense

As an FL user (who is also learning mixing/mastering currently) this is surprisingly helpful lmao, thanks a ton for the advice!!!

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

thank you! I hope most of this translates well haha

brillant

This is the most down-to-earth and to-the-point tutorial on this subject that I've seen so far :D One thing to consider is that you could have a cascade of clippers, that way you can clip individual channels/busses bit by bit and push the loudness even more! I think Skrillex actually uses a variation of this exact approach Baphometrix has a series of tutorials on it, but it's insanely long and rambly, still a good watch tho

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

thank you! I've tried the individual bus method before but I could never get it to glue or get as loud than running it all into the single master clipper. I'll give it a try next time though maybe I just need to change my approach.

@poindextertunes

Ай бұрын

Baphometrix is a legend

thanks but soundgoodizer and camelcrusher> all serious though mil3s this is incredibile

If you can make a video describing how subtronics gets his stereo width to sound so full and clean and loud that would be great :)

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

imo i think subtronics has a pretty distorted sound to his mixes but the stereo makes it sound louder than it is. I think it all comes to down to using ozone imager on basses and then pushing and carving the sound to its threshold. I'm not too big on his music so I could be wrong but from what I've heard i think it might get you close enough! :)

I got some of your drum samples you posted in discord a while ago...they are fucking top tier

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

thanks :] I plan on releasing a big sample pack with them very soon!

@paulisawesome10

Жыл бұрын

​@@mil3sperhouroo😮

Insanely great effing info here! I have a weird question, and it may not be in your genre. But if you know INZO: Is he also doing this in his mixes, do you think? Everything just sounds so damn big in his mixes! The fullness just blows my mind.

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

thank you! im not too familiar with INZO's work, are there any specific tracks you're referring to?

@JonJon-bx1ww

Жыл бұрын

@@mil3sperhour Yo! Thank you so much for responding! Yeah, "I'm Dreaming" is huge. Also, "Drift Like A Cloud Flow Like Water" or "Overthinker" Pretty much any of those. Just gigantic sound in there.

super awesome vid man, subbed! So if i get this correctly you push out all drums via transient shaping to get them super punchy/to squeeze out the volume and then the g clip on the master cuts the peaks so they don't clip. Do you think that going for transient shaping into a clipper for each individual element or drum bus lets say is a good idea? To boost it and then cut the peaks? Also so you firstly push out your drums/sub to a proper level and then match the main synth/bass to them.... awesome and one final thing... if listening to a track on mono lets say on my iphone and i have this side information from the background fx... on mono the sides should be barely hearable if not at all right? also i heard that a lot of bigger venues systems are mono...so how do you achieve width of a track if the system is mono.

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

individual clipping to me doesn't sound as good since it's not gluing/clashing with the other elements (since everything would peak at 0 before the master) as for the mono stuff it doesn't really do that much and I think more systems are supporting stereo, plus I've heard many tracks with similar stereo imaging and they sound great on livd sets.

tytyty

great thumbnail

💯💯💯

Do riddim next :)

We found the one man who uses ableton light mode

@mil3sperhour

9 ай бұрын

this is a different theme but yeah LOL

yes

Very good.., The clipper on output is an occulted method.. Ill sub and wait for more.. U better do more.,.

i thought you said "Miles Prower" at the start and i was like "OMG TAILS"

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

it actually is a homage to tails haha

you know when you know you’ve just found that one guy. well you’re him

Please do a video on your sidechain!

Hi, to the playing online the Sides thing, isnt that a big problem because of phasing issues? I checked it with span (or ozone) and it goes all over to -1 wich is bad because you ask the speaker to be at multiple positions at the same time, wich weakens the loudness.

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

ozone imager does a pretty good job at keeping the phase free of any phase cancellation and it only becomes an issue if it's in mono at that. most systems are nowadays stereo anyways and the mono compatibility of ozone imager keeps it in check. I don't think it's necessary but it's a great way of utilizing unused stereo space.

Also, do you ever export a song out of the project and bring it into a new one to do some final mastering polish on it? Or do you just bounce it straight out of the mixing project with the Gclip on and upload that to streaming or wherever?

@mil3sperhour

9 ай бұрын

yeah I export straight out of gclip and that's my final render

More MOre MOre More

Nice thumb😳👌

I love m3ph

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

mr president we need a response for the people

cool thumbnail

criminally underrated vid. For the Fx section @ 8:30, are you literally layering the song w a Sides only layer of the whole mix?? Or are you just complimenting your song w random layering samples or like resampled sounds like kompany does

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

thanks!! to answer your question i'm making my fx section really wide in comparison to my main elements so that way i can take advantage of the sides to create more width and fullness. i did the soloing in the video to show how much the sides can contribute to the overall presence of the fx. if it were in mono it could get masked with the mids and highs, so by using the sides i can get out of the way of the mids and be at a lower volume while still sounding very present to the listener.

@glock18glory

Жыл бұрын

@@mil3sperhour thank you for the quick reply. I watched the section again, and i think I get it now. Did you literally freeze and flatten all of your elements, and then make them emit just stereo info through utility? Also do u do any type of grouping?? Im trying to look for elements from AHEE's magic ableton templates if you watched those vids

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

​@@glock18glory no, the FX still have mid information, but they lean more towards stereo/side via the use of stereo imaging and reverb plugins. also not all are flattened, just a few layers containing sound design jams with automation, which are then flattened to avoid cluttering the project with unnecessary automation looping. it also allows for pitch and timestretching which i use in the second half of the drops to create more tension by raising stuff by an octave!

@glock18glory

Жыл бұрын

@@mil3sperhour Aahh i see. thank you. And do you have a premaster/are you clipping on groups?

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

@@glock18glory no premaster whatsoever, it all goes straight to the clipper. the only thing is the sidechain track does have a few groups running through it but as far as i know shaper box isn't nonlinear (i.e no distortion). i've tried experimenting with clipping/limiting on the groups but i could never get the drums to sound like i wanted it to. i saw syzy mix this way in a defyre stream and it has worked for me ever since! i recommend checking out their music its so well executed.

Saturate>clip>limit>done

how did you make that bongo rhythm? I've been trying for a while

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

sorry i don't really wanna say out of respect for W IN K's music :( although you can see most of the processing in the video

@imaikomusic

Жыл бұрын

Get a darbuka one shot and check this video out kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZI1kp6uzj7LJZ7Q.html

bro what is that spotify ui? thats insane

bro make more videos

get st4b its a transient shaper for sound design virtual riot showed it in his studio time its like hearing ott for the first time. The other aspect after clipping is having brick wall silence in between every sound and not letting them ring out AT ALL. it really is night and day like... BeutNoise showed me his song and the waveforms never overlap on anything and theres dead silence he either bounces everything out and uses like lfo tool on every sound or something its crazy

@PandaPotPies

Жыл бұрын

also having a mini tape stop after every sound before the silence its like an energy of sucking you in that you really feel

@PandaPotPies

Жыл бұрын

listen to jungle heat by BeutNoise

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

@@PandaPotPies oh hell yeah beutnoise is a beast. haven't tried st4b but I've heard great things, although all I need is just the the overall volume to be affect but it might interesting to experiment with bands

@PandaPotPies

Жыл бұрын

also..... mefjus and virtual riot put a little saw wave omega clipped click and put it at the beginning of every transient

Hey man, are you having your kick hitting 0 db with the transient shaper on, or do you have it hit 0db then you add on your transient shaper?

@mil3sperhour

5 ай бұрын

i render all of my kicks normalized at 0 db by default so technically it's already hitting 0 db. to get more out of the kick though i push it with the transient shaper even further so it has more presence in the mix however without making it sound too distorted (masking with noise and hats helps)

@thucvu4780

5 ай бұрын

@@mil3sperhour dude right on, thanks for the reply

Hey man another question, at 15:20 when you said you are squeezing everything into the clipper except the subs and the mids, where the subs and mids being routed to?

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

you know what i think that might have been a mistake because im treating all of the groups the same (i.e routed straight to the master) I think im just referring to the intensity of the clipping. I don't want my mids to be too distorted or overpower the sub.

@glock18glory

Жыл бұрын

@@mil3sperhour ah I see, I picked up on that a second watch thru. Sorry for all the questions, I am just trying to create a hybrid template from what I have already, which involves mixing my kick at -10 db and building everything around that. But this is the opposite like no head room as you were saying and its something I want to try. Promise ill only have like 2 more ?'s lol, after I watch thru these once more

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

@@glock18glory it's no problem! ask away I'd love to help :]

I would 1. Recommend clipping in stages (clipping the drum group or bass group) as opposed to clipping the master. Clipping adds distortion and clipping off 3-4db (or even 6-7-10db) off one group will sound a lot cleaner than clipping all of your tracks that sum together and 2. I’d recommend normalizing your tracks to remove all the headroom while still keeping your signal clean and distortion free (not everything needs to be clipped) baphometrix has a reaaaaaaly good tutorial series on clipping called the clip to zero (CTZ) method, I’d check it out

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm familiar with that method but I personally like how the elements interact together through one clipper. It has a nice heavy loud sound but doesn't sound overly distorted (I think syzy best showcases what I mean)

@matanmelamed4341

Жыл бұрын

@@mil3sperhour syzy have vids? where

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

@@matanmelamed4341 syzy doesn't actually have any public videos. what i meant was to check out syzy's music for analyzing mixdowns

@matanmelamed4341

Жыл бұрын

@@mil3sperhour oh ok i got it wrong, anyway make more vids rambling about bass music

@glock18glory

Жыл бұрын

To be clear on his method, he is not mixing his kick at -10db?. Ive tried clipping to zero, but when I gain stage all of my elements around it, my mix is super squashed.

So you just add gclip on the master and basically that's it!! And use ott, saturation, eq and other effects in the post processing part? If that's the case then man have i been doing dubstep wrong considering i use ott, saturation,eq and finally a g clip last on my master. 😂

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

so far it's whats worked for me! doing a subtle master eq balance before the gclip can help too though! I sometimes do that to boost my high sides on tracks

Why is the thumbnail so funny

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

gotta think outside the box

how did u get ur ableton to look like that?

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

It's just a ableton skin I found on livethemes.co

Please make a tutorial about OTT

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

i actually don't really need to because sseb_music has already made a fantastic video ont it

@joemojou6653

Жыл бұрын

@@mil3sperhour thank you i will check it out. I really hope to see more videos from you. This is so refreshing

What speakers/headphones do you mix on?

@mil3sperhour

9 ай бұрын

I just use some standard Audio Technica M50x headphones (Arturia Minifuse as my interface)

@vincecrow4512

9 ай бұрын

@@mil3sperhour awesome! Thanks!

Xlnt intro?

This is Clip-2-Zero no?

Where can I get that Ableton skin?

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

its called massive x! www.livethemes.co/themes/massive-x/64

@zackyzackyzacky1

Жыл бұрын

@@mil3sperhour Thanx, you da real mvp.

If you’re on a Mac how did you get your g clip on there?

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

there are lots of great alternatives like clipshifter and free clip by venn audio!

@Yirsi

Жыл бұрын

@@mil3sperhour what about abletons glue compressor as a soft clipper? is there any noticable difference to gclip?

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

@@Yirsi ableton glue comp is also pretty solid if you set the range to 0 db, otherwise you get compression on your master which makes it dynamic. although i noticed some of the transients are not as clean as the waveform results with gclip. I think gclip is better overall if in terms of control of the actual clipping (soft, oversampling under 0db), while glue comp is just a standard softclipper.

@emilioweed_

Жыл бұрын

@@mil3sperhour have you tried saturator on digital clip mode?

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

@@emilioweed_ yeah saturator on digital clip is great too!

Pls send abelton skin

To be honest I was expecting this to be a shitpost

What Ableton theme is that? :)

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

its this one! www.livethemes.co/themes/massive-x/64

@RakeenRahman

Жыл бұрын

@@mil3sperhour Thank you!! Love the vid btw

Whats your ableton skin? :)

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

it's called massive x! www.livethemes.co/themes/massive-x/64

@watri124

Жыл бұрын

@@mil3sperhour Thanks

Hello soltan

Do you ever watched Ahee's tutorials? He's doing pretty exactly the same thing as you do it

@faylmusic

Жыл бұрын

and btw I liked your video keep the good work man!

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

i remember watching a video from him around when fuji opener came out? but most of this is just stuff i've learned in the last like 2 years or so

INTERNATIONAL SUPER STAR SOCCER! HAHAHAHAHA

@mil3sperhour

Жыл бұрын

glad someone knows! such a underrated soundtrack

@wasabi333

Жыл бұрын

@@mil3sperhour great times also hahaha!