The Europeans still don't get us Brits. We feel that conforming with Europe is wrong, and we hate the concept of being European ourselves. If we are being "told off" by a European for not being European enough. Then we know that we're doing something right. For that reason Barraso's speech makes me proud to be British, not European!

@1RECONfilms

10 жыл бұрын

yeah? Speak for yourself there, Dimetri.

@foxsux6000

10 жыл бұрын

And that's why your country has a higher national debt than Greece? -___- (slacker nation of the EU) hahaha, pathetic...

@DimetriKhan

10 жыл бұрын

Mark R. No, because our population is higher...

@foxsux6000

10 жыл бұрын

DimetriKhan No, it's higher per capita.

@DimetriKhan

10 жыл бұрын

I'm probably looking at public debt, while you're looking at external debt.

Thank goodness the UK will soon be out of this travesty of a union. Vote UKIP! Farage for PM!

@ibobeko4309

9 жыл бұрын

Since 1973 UK want to leave the EU, leave it please. We have 2015, every Year, Uk singing the old Song, we will leave, we will leave. Please you are Free to go, please do us a Favor in the EU.

@rj5948

9 жыл бұрын

ibo beko It's how they make themselves feel wanted

@jrom6263

8 жыл бұрын

+ibo beko Funny thing is we do more for the EU then you do.

Oh just get us out. Please!!

"we need a strong European team" he means strong European mafia?

"I good idea would be in accountability to your leader" Exactly the problem with European Members of Parliament (MEPs). You elect the party not the individual to represent you. Therefore when people like this anti-Nation state, anti-democratic - pro-technocrat rule Barroso comes after the individual parties in Strasbourg, the expectation is to conform to what *the party leader* says - not what is in the best interests of the constituency they represent. Let's get out of the EU, fast

"The EU is about common interest and prosperity" - the EU is not about that. It is about POWER. One team, are we f**k.

This guys a complete fruit loop. 2 years on - crisis about to deepen again .... meanwhile Great Britain who didn't join the Euro and is poised to leave the EU has the fastest growing economy in Europe. We win together or we fail together - yup - please enjoy being together and we'll leave you to it.

Thanks for the explanation. I have to say that I am opposed to the EU and everything it stands for, because it tends to increase state spending, which is ultimately generated by the forceful taking of money from people in the form of tax, which I see as inherently unethical beyond that which is necessary.

I think it is always good to adopt a measure of Euroscepticism, testing the values on which we stand. Look at what Britain has been, the EU goes against what we once were. Powerful, independent with an ability to handle our own affairs. Yes, there are economic implications of leaving the EU but it is not always the economy that matters. What truly matters at the heart of all politics it the fundamental belief of Britain itself. Centralisation is not Britain, a single currency is not Britain, being governed by foreigners is not Britain. Britain is us, Britain is strong, reliable, we have stood the testament of time and proved our ability to look after ourselves and help others. This is not done as one United State of Europe but as Britannia and its values of belief in the individual, belief in our abilities and belief that we have got what it takes to govern ourselves better than European socialists.

The reasons there have been no wars is because Britain and France have had nuclear weapons. Not because of the European Union.

Barroso should be in jail.

I'm pretty sure that was UKIP that he was talking to, not the Conservatives. The title and description is a little bit misleading.

@brazeiar9672

9 жыл бұрын

***** No he was talking to both. The Conservative group in Europe (the ECR) is much closer to UKIP than the Cameroon group. The leader of the ECR (a Tory) is sat next to Farage and they are both laughing at Barroso.

here in Portugal I never voted for you, Barroso. But I can tell you that after listening to this speech, you went up a lot in my consideration. who certainly won now was this channel with yet another subscription.

my grandmother with 85 years old said that her parents did

The biggest and most exepensive kindergarten in history.

@12dougreed

10 жыл бұрын

YES 100% I just cant understand Why all of you put up with this. I no longer live in the uk, These days i have a lot of time to watch KZread Lets face it,you are all ruled by a load of dimwits and Walter Mitty's for Fxxxs sake get rid of them. I can truly cry for my country,that I also served for many years. I live in Asia,and I can say that the UK and its politicians are the laughing stock of the world

The sooner Great Britain gets itself out of this circus the better!

Undoubtedly there is much wrong with the present way of things. Nevertheless, the present UE is better than no Union at all. Europe just cannot afford to remain a conglomerate of states which are continually at odds with each other. Yes, France & Germany - together with Italy & the Benelux - began the whole story way back in 1957 as you well know. However, you DO must work together to find the best solution to keep united. Your own country is an excellent example of how different cultures can work together towards a common goal. I beg your pardon, but as a European fan it pains me to remember how nations took advantage of a divided Germany and a divided Italy from the Middle Ages through Contemporary History.

collaboration, strength in diversity, unity, consensus-building, equality, democracy, debating, listening, teaching, learning, giving, helping, improving, sustain, social evolution.

"Either we win together or we be beaten together" no thanks you dig your own hole but we will provide the spades. Signed Britannia.

Its more a case of Cameron saying one thing and everyone else in his party saying another. 80% of Conservatives supporters last I heard want a referendum on EU membership and he would be a fool to look like he will deny it.

Quite frankly I find this statement offensive: "You can thank the EU for your lifestyle". No I can thank my grandparents and all the others who fought and died to preserve and enhance my way of life so that the very spirit of liberty and democracy would endure. Not even the most rabid Guardian readers make the absurd argument that without the EU we would all be at war again.

Thank you mate, you helped with Brexit!

Barroso sweeping the floor with UK flag...

Didn't realise I was using it mate

When EU becomes federal you'll be able to elect president of eu comission (or prime minister) and president of eu council (president). Since EU today is political union, politicians choose (MEP's) who the presidents will be.

The only thing missing in this speech is the Horst Wessel song playing on the background.

"It was expressed X" is the passive voice... Both of your 'corrections' are in the active voice. I don't know if it is formally correct, but I do know that the passive voice with a helping "it" pronoun is widely used. For example: "It was conducted an experiment", "it was carried out some test" etc. Technical reports are usually written in the passive voice, which is annoying but one gets a kind of feel for it. Are you english?

And the best way for the EU to overcome the Eurozone crises is to stick together and find ways to overcome financial differencies between member states and try to bring growth not to one or two but to all member states making the EU itself stronger as a whole...

This is the new Dean Martin Roast Show.....:)

The very reason Europe succeeded was economic competetion. Competition breeds ingenuity, centralization kills it.

That was in the 70s, he was a student back then !!! 40 years have passed. He and most of his generation had to put up with the dictatorship in Portugal, until 1974. That past is irrelevant,

It is impossible to superimpose a 'union'. No union has ever been talked into existence. It required serious conflict and reconstruction. That room would be a sensible place to start.

Unfortunate the declarations of British Conservatives. Shame on you, this is not the British Parliament!

As far as the treaty of Rome, People in the UK voted to join a trading block (free trade area) back in the 1970's. That was it, I can't speak for the rest of Europe but the UK has never voted for a political union, or a federal style union. So regardless what the treaty of Rome says, people in the UK were asked about free trade with Europe and that's it.

Vogon poetry!

@Euractiv

10 жыл бұрын

Haha! Great analogy. However, even if the style is sometimes similar - the content of speeches in the European Parliament are much more important in substance...

I'm pretty sure I said that Germany declared war on America? I also said it was due to the conflict between the US and Japan, with the US declaring war on Japan in 1941 after the attack on Pearl Harbor. I did also say that this was the MAIN reason. Other reasons would obviously include the fact that Germany kept destroying American supply ships entering Europe etc, I highly doubt the US would've been 'happy' with this.

I 100% agree with you on the rich and poor countries and think the EU would have worked a lot better with just the Northern European countries. We wouldn't have all the problems in Britain with our unskilled work going to foreign migrants, resulting in British workers being highly unemployed.

The E.U wants a fiscal union and guess what: F.U

I couldn't agree more!!! I couldn't say it better myself!!! Well done Barroso!!! :))

Good speech. It's almost a little sad, but he managed to say a few words about what the EU is or should be about, in a time when all people seem to be able to do is bitch about it.

"They" are using him too... Barroso, if That good, why not go back to being Portgal's PM ? The country needs You !

HRA limits the power of the government, actually. Scrapping the HRA, would only INCREASE the power of the government.

It has never been just a trading block as the Treaty of Rome makes clear ('an ever closer union'). You maybe right and it does come a federal country by stealth (and there are advocates) but apart from a potless failing state like Greece it would be more difficult to argue for that model now, than it would to the post-war generation.

Not a student of history are you? By 1951 when that speech was given the Empire had already ceased to exist in any tangible form, funnily enough because we had just fought 2 world wars which had utterly bankrupted us. In 1956 the Suez Crisis occurred, and is now widely considered by scholars as the final nail in the coffin of the British Empire.

wonderful play !

Far better to have nation states competing with each other, than the EU model of the governing classes uniting against their various populations.

Amen!

The problem for the EURO isn't Greece or Spain it's that Britain or Sweden isn't part of the Euro. There too few strong nations in the Euro is the problem.

This man is second only to Farage in increasing the support for UKIP- keep going Manuel!

I don't know whether you would ever be allowed to be put in charge of the EU, but my comment presupposed that you could be. If you were then by definition you would have the power to shut it down.

As a German,working in Britain I could not Agree more.Britain is the only country not afraid to question or stand up to the EU.Its hardly a mystery why Britain feels isolated,when Most of the EU uses Britain as their scapegoat.

UKIP does not support bailing out banks. We also SHOULD protect the free trade rules on which the City survives - it makes alot of money and pays alot of tax.

As a Brit, I wholeheartedly agree with Barosso here. Those Kippers and the Ultra-Tories in the European Parliament who look with glee as lives are destroyed, are an embarrassment to our country.

No politician WANTS opposition. If they do, they're an awful politician.

This person belongs to the same political party as I do. But i disagree with his words. I believe Portugal is behaving like a child without doing his homework.

It is appalling to know a lot people, particularly those viewers here, that "what is important" is always disregarded. As the title clearly says, it is not a debate about how good or bad his English is, nor have we the right to criticise someone who speaks a second language fluently enough to convey the real message. I am sure everybody understood him in there and that is the point. You better understand how you could have done such task if you were to deliver and what the matter really is...!!!

Then the people are free to not vote for the MEP they think chose the secret ballot. There are good points and bad points in this. Good points are that the government cannot know how the MEP voted during the secret ballot, therefore it's prevent the government from forcing MEPs to vote a certain way. Another point is to prevent lobbyist groups from knowing how individual MEPs voted. A bad point is that citizens cannot know how their MEPs voted. It's certainly a minus. Yes you did.

He is a good speaker!

@12dougreed

10 жыл бұрын

Bull shit

Dear Mr Baroso. You are right. Britain has definately given too much money to Londons Banks. So much so that i think you should immediately kick us out of your European Union. We will not cause a fuss and we will go politely. We will however leave you with a parting gift. You can have all the Poles, Bulgarians,Romanians etc. We will send them over to you right away. That is all.

You should also remember Mr. Barosso that the Euro is founded on ideology and a dream and history shows us that dreams built on unreality lead to nightmares. Viva Greece and the freedom of diversity in peace!

I am shocked by the stupidity of some people. Why anyone would want to stay on a sinking ship makes no sense to me.

Your argument wasn't about the type of government, but about the interest rates, and the currency. Yes, I think having single government would be better, but leaving a lot of things to the states themselves. Now, the Euro currency is kind of... unfinished, and it causes lots of troubles, which we can see in the Euro area.

You agree that greece should remain in the euro even though its tearing them apart. Now of course there will be consequences of a devaluation but it is not impossible to become competitive again for if they do not do this they are stuck in the debt union and an economic prison with the same money circling around from country to country.

If there wasnt united europe and european free market, London's City wouldn't be nowhere big as it is today. And we have to keep in mind that City's financial activities produce huge percentage of british gdp. If england (not scotland) keeps anoying about its status and wants to get out, fuck them. But then I would tax the shit out of City if it wants to work in european market. Europe has many other financial centers that could take Citys place such as Frankfurt or Paris.

You should better write this in the letter to the US Congress. Isn't US government too big? Smaller governments should be better for US too with that logics... Plus, Europarliament yesterday rejected ACTA while US accepted it. So who is actually defending freedom of speech and who is not!?

the last 2 minutes are the best ideas I've seen since before the EU enlargement of 1995. I wish we could go back to 1994.

I've known many people who have lived in Europe. Including Denmark, Germany, and the UK. They all say that Europe is way more immoral than the U.S..

I completely agree with you, and it's not like I'm all for that either. But, these countries have the same history and have been successfully working together for hundreds of years. Also, there's democracy, they have the power to leave and change what happens in their own countries, unlike the EU (it would fall apart if countries start leaving). I get where you're coming from and again, I'm all for a united Europe, just not the political union behind it all that governs every nation within in.

Borroso criticises britain for recapitalising the banks in 2008 but the eu has incompetentely not done that. They should be priasing the Uk for it's actions and hold it as a modern example on how to run an economy.

Fine. Go and be hard working and honest in your own Country.

You don't solve a debt crisis by making even more debt. Some countries cannot even pay their interest, and still we lend out even more money, at interest. Money our governments have to borrow from banks, again at interest. How can they not see that this can never be repaid and that the house of card will eventually fall apart in one big crisis that will dwarf the Great Depression.

people grow up you know? how many years ago was that?

We are becoming increasingly fed up with these unelected EU bureaucrats and even an unelected President of the Commission! I also hate the past and current governments in the UK for not giving us an in or out referendum sooner! We could have prevented the millions of unwanted EU immigrants flooding into our country and abusing our NHS and benfits system! The country is full as it is! If the government don't give the majority of the people what they want, then we aren't living in a true democracy

Actually the sole reason America came into the war was because Pearl Harbour was attacked by the Japenese. They were more then happy to stay out of the war until then. It's also worth noting that Germany declared war on America not vice versa as they were a alliy of Japan.

How exactly can you be 'put in charge of the EU' or 'shut it down' Reference to any credible academic sources to back up your plan would be appreciated.

What a great speech that puts everything in perspective, Farage should be ashamed of himself for spreading lies and division every day of his sad little political life.

the sooner britain gets out of the EUSSR the better and so we can trade with our friends in the Commonwealth more who we should never have abandoned when Heath sold our country

ok i thought you were assuming that the people were lazy, because sometimes thats what some think... hopefully this mess will calm down

Barroso is clapped by almost the whole of the EU parliament and we can see the President of the President (who is meant to be impartial) nodding in agreement. What this parliament needs is some proper opposition, which only the Europe of Freedom and Democracy, and the European Conservatives and Reformists are providing

Yes but there is a difference. We are paying for our banks debt. We are not asking the EU for a bailout. Every time Ireland,Portugal,Greece have needed money. We have to pay our share of that ASWELL. When Spain and Italy go bust. Thats when Baroso's Euro dream will fall apart cos there isnt any more money to bail them out. All it takes is one of them to default and the rest will follow.

By trying to isolate Britain the EU risks losing the one real access way the EU has to Washington. Remember how the previous German Chancellor begged Britain's PM Tony Blair to arrange a meeting with the President of the US because the US stopped talking to the Germans? Even the Germans recognized that of all the European nations only the British have the clout and respect within America to influence American thinking and actions like no other nation. Unlike the EU, Britain has loyal friends.

You do realise this whole 'historical' point comes very close to Americans claiming that "you would all speak German now if we weren't there to save you." This is not about how we got here, this is about where we are now. Don't think you are right because of what your parents or grandparents did. Proove you are right by what you do.

So what he's saying is we have pumped 284 billion in to the EU just to try and save it. that's without the fee's and other cost's spent on it. I think that is disgraceful! people are starving whilst we are wasting our tax money on something that will ultimately destroy us. Utter madness

...in other words Barroso...you don't want anybody coming to the "EU party" and expressing any other views than your own!

i agree but we cannot become strongest continent on this planet when some countries are asking for money to bail out their debt (which is THEIR fault!!) over and over. how about we stop sending 'help' in the form of money because clearly it's not working.

I understand his point, but it's simply flawed, the sense of unity that he is talking about is simply incompatible with the UK

Perhaps it's more respectful, but you didn't say it was more respectful, you said morally superior. It was that assertion that I was responding to. Now when it comes to government, I can't say with absolute certainty which is better. But on an individual level, from the accounts of others it seems that Americans are more moral than Europeans. And most of these people I'm talking about have great personal character and integrity, and I believe were unbiased as to the matter.

most of us do want to leave but they won't let us and it is the same for everyone else too. But Democracy will prevail eventually!!! UKIP

Slightly easy demagogy from the Commission's president. To claim that countries should leave their interests as soon as they enter the EU is dreaming. Not a single country in the EU, no matter how europhile, does that.

British always liked to be on the power. However, Britain is powerless now... They try to create an earthquake, however, these earthquakes afect and isolate them more than anyone.

I'm portuguese, I care. Altough I don't support most of EU's economic and financial measures and regulations I agree: - with Greece remaining in Eurozone - that British conservatives' discourse is rethorical (no matter how much I enjoy seeing Farage's direct and spontaneous speeches) - that there's a complex of superiority within many EU countries and no respect for other countries' history - with the guidelines of the european project.

Goldman Sachs = EU

@foxsux6000

10 жыл бұрын

Especially the UK...

We did well enough without the EU for thousands of years and we will do so again. If you like the EU so much then maybe you should make sure you are always located in one of the member states. I cannot think of anything positive this 'club' gives us for £50 million per day. Seriously, the EU is a 1950's/60's solution to a problem that doesn't exist anymore. The future is the world not just Europe, we would be mad to not take a slice of that!

Yeah, and increase the size of the army. Nothing would change. Implying that the EU interferes in those places you're talking about. Yes, I also want to see less red tape in the EU(Commission is in favor of that), but leaving the EU just for that is preposterous.

No Barroso. The EEC was set up to greatly lessen the threat of continental war. 10's of million of people on the other hand died to avoid a union of Europe.

Altough I don't agree with Farage's speech, I don't think what he says is the position of British people as a whole. Respect for European People!

@gunner4life568

2 жыл бұрын

how wrong you were

Again, I'm all for uniting and helping each other, but I don't want to be governed by them. Why should it be a one size fits all policy for 27 countries that are all totally different? It's got nothing to do with nationalism, it's to do with them making up our laws and telling every nation what to do, I find it ridiculous. If every country had complete control, if they weren't making people poor, if we didn't have unlimited EU immigration, then I'd have no problems with it.

I don't like the EU at the moment, but Barroso has a point - we need to act together and not harbour silly fantasies about 'splendid isolation'. Of course the problem is actually him - the EU has a chronic lack of leadership.

I'd like to hear you try and speak Portuguese or any other foreign language without an accent.

didnt get a word of that needs subtitles