the first and only one channel on youtube who explained how to copy bargue plates properly and being so for years!!!. i really appreciate your work and many thanks for you.

Buy the Bargue book. This helps the publisher survive, a man who took a lot of risk to bring the course back to the public.

@christianblack6916

7 жыл бұрын

G Parrish I agree GP, you guys should buy the book if you can. Do you ever collab on work? I know you did that 80ft piece but with more people we could do more:)

@areejmubashir6335

6 жыл бұрын

author name?

@youyoutwotwo

5 жыл бұрын

just bought the Bargue book. Thanks Graydon!

@johnkon2810

4 жыл бұрын

I bought this book from my public library for 5 bucks. So happy I did after finding out it's 80 dollars. I just bought the plate book (much larger plates - totally worth it) & that was 10 bucks on Amazon. I'm kinda curious why the publisher is taking such a "risk" (because everyone knows, there's no risk in anything we do in this life, especially regarding business), when said book, according to the library, is now technically part of the public domain. So did the publisher take a risk or is he taking advantage of? It's not like the book is made is color (except for some redish hue on the cover for window dressing) & it was printed in China. I think the surviving family, should get a "healthy," amount of this books proceeds, not just the publisher. The only reason why this book is 80 dollars is because: it has the word "drawing," in friendly bold text, on the cover. This reprint was more "rinse, wash & repeat, money in the bank," rather than risk. At least with this video course as an example: they're actually producing something of their own to add to the work of the author. *My opinion is "Food for thought, nothing more."

@atultayade

3 жыл бұрын

The guy who collated the plate is dead. and his student is the founder of Florence Academy of art in Italy. Art education and quality materials are expensive. Save money and download the images. Art students already work on empty stomachs

This is absolutely great. There are so many videos out there teaching drawing and targeting beginners (like myself), however, they tend to skip the important or challenging parts. Your instructions are very thorough and genuine. I like that you are also pointing out things to watch for. Thank you very much for doing this. Awesome class.

I just wanted to say "Thank you." This was so helpful. Blessings to you!

@thedavinciinitiative5045

7 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome!

Just bought bargue's drawing course,your video is very useful,lots of thanks！！！❤

So good, thank you so much!

At 2:19 she mentions the value of the paper. This does not refer to the quality of the paper. In this case, value means the lightness or darkness of the paper.

Thanks for sharing this playlist! Are the photocopies you use and the one showing in this video of the plates standard printing paper (8.5x11 inches)? Or do you print enlarged version of the plate to better match the original dimensions of them?

Good video! thank you! one question: is it really a big difference if I use a white paper instead of a toned one? why? thanks!

What are the dimensions in inches of your source reference print? Thanks! Great Tutuorial!

Could you please provide the brand and model number of the easel? Thank You!

Hi, is a proportional divider ok to use?

I bought the Charles Brague, book but it's so hard to buy the charcoal that you use

Thank you

What size is the paper you printed the plate on? I'd like to replicate what you are doing as close as possible. Its hard to tell, but it looks a little less than the 18 x 24 paper. I'd like to tell a prof. printer exactly what to use. thanks.

Great series, thanks a lot. Should I use a normal vine charcoal (that should be the way Bargue designed his curse, I suppose) instead of Nitram's, would it be possible to sharpen it in the proper way and use it or the inner core, being very smooth, is unsuitable? And how should the rendering/tone smoothing be done? With brush and/or lower pressure?

@thedavinciinitiative5045

4 жыл бұрын

I think you are setting yourself up for heartache trying to sharpen charcoal with a soft center. I would recommend going to pencil if that type of charcoal is your only option. I rendering is done with varying amounts of pressure depending on how dark the area needs to be. A brush is fine for removing charcoal if you get too dark, but I do not recommend using it to lay on charcoal because it is difficult to control.

What kind of easel is that? And where did you get the board on it?

@thedavinciinitiative5045

6 жыл бұрын

This is called a "trigger pull" easel. I prefer it because it makes adjusting the drawing up and down easier than those easels with knobs. The board is just a simple piece of foam core.

When she speaks of VALUE of paper, she means the degree of lightness or darkness of the paper. Her two papers have different COLORS. One is pinkish, the other is yellowish. The colors are different, but the values are similar.

ok all is great but where can one obtain a full size print or at least an image of the Barque plate that should be used for this. The book is very small and the plates are not that great in it. you state that you are working on additional resources but to date I haven't seen them on your site. Thanks

@thedavinciinitiative5045

6 жыл бұрын

You can get a reasonable copy from the book by blowing up the image on a color copy machine. That's what I've used in this demonstration. We of course do our best to provide as many resources as possible to help educate anyone interested in learning atelier methods, however we are a small non-profit that runs on donations. Any donation you can make through out website would help expand our ability to provide resources: www.davinciinitiative.org/donate.html

Very useful! I have one question though. In some classes they are doing the drawings in pencil on A4 paper ... is it better in pencil or charcoal?

@schoolofatelierarts

3 жыл бұрын

When I am teaching students, I always go for pencil. Charcoal is just such a mess with large groups.

First you mention Nitram charcoal - but towards the end there is a message overlayed on video mentioning only to use Vine charcoal? I bought 5 packs of the Nitram Academie Fusains (hard,med/soft) -- are those Vine? They look more like compressed?

@thedavinciinitiative5045

4 жыл бұрын

Nitram is a very excellent brand of charcoal. It will work wonderfully for you.

What kind of easel is it that you use in this video, I'm having a hard time finding something similar without a name.

@johnqclark5155

5 жыл бұрын

Jerry's Artarama carries a very good H-frame easel made by Soho which sells for $99.00.

@thedavinciinitiative5045

5 жыл бұрын

It is a wooden H-frame trigger pull easel, any brand will do.

very informative, thank you

@thedavinciinitiative5045

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

if i don’t own an easel, is it ok to do this drawing on a flat surface?

@thedavinciinitiative5045

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, although it is better to prop your drawing board against a chair to avoid distortions.

When you say " please watch the video on sharpening charcoal" it would be great if you put the link to that video in the description box. I'm still looking for it...thanks for doing this series!

@mellamoarts

5 жыл бұрын

It's lesson 5. It's 2 videos after this one

@gigig2492

5 жыл бұрын

D Thanks. I found it. 😊

@thedavinciinitiative5045

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the suggestion, it has been added :)

@gigig2492

5 жыл бұрын

The Da Vinci Initiative The teaching is excellent. Thanks.

Can i use graphite pencil in doing bargue plates?..

@thedavinciinitiative5045

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, absolutely. Just know that graphite will not be as dark as charcoal.

love

You need some intro music. That would be 🔥🔥🔥

Sorry for my ignorance but what is the thing that the picture is resting upon. Do I need one ?

@thedavinciinitiative5045

6 жыл бұрын

Are you referring to the easel, which is what the drawing board is resting on? The image itself it taped to a piece of foam core board.

Agree with the person below

LOL notably nicer to the teachers

I wish I was exposed this process in K-12

@thedavinciinitiative5045

5 жыл бұрын

If you would like to help our non-profit provide this training in K-12, I encourage you to make a donation at www.davinciinitiative.org

Just notice how many times she said " uh and the last thing you're going to need is..."

@thedavinciinitiative5045

6 жыл бұрын

Uh, yeah, my bad :) I'll do better in the next course!

@Artchick1972

6 жыл бұрын

who cares?

Please filter out the high range EQ, the 's' consonant sound whistle and lip smacking is way louder than it should be.

Why mechanical pencils makes no sense vs. lead holders & lead, if you're not going to use charcoal? You can sharpen lead with sandpaper too (thus learning how to sharpen charcoal) + they extend without breaking as mechanical pencil lead, surely will, do to it being so thin! It makes NO SENSE to use mechanical pencils for this type of drawing. A regular pencil is a far better option than mechanical (after charcoal or lead holders), as they can be sharpened with razors (or chisels & "sandpaper)", they're less messy than charcoal, & you can have plenty of lead to work with a point &/or, the side of the pencil lead (as you can do with lead holders & charcoal), won't break easy, ect., ect. I guess, I'm kinda shocked mechanical pencils are even an option & thus a long rant. I love mechanical pencils but again, not for this type of drawing. Mechanical pencils should only be used when you're working with a point only as they keep they're line width. They should never be used on the side. You'll spend a fortune on leads for them and they'll dramatically slow the drawing process down. Perhaps shocked is the wrong word to describe what I think on this matter. Flabbergasted is possibly a better choice to describe my utmost shock.

@thedavinciinitiative5045

4 жыл бұрын

Hi John, the reason I suggest mechanical pencils is because, in my experience, students never ever ever ever sharpen their pencils appropriately or as frequently as needed. Every critique becomes "sharpen your pencil" when what I would like to teach is how to draw. I found that a mechanical pencil, even at its "dullest" is far sharper than the average non-mechanical pencil I come across my students using. In short, I'm exhausted by the battle of getting students to sharpen their pencils, and I've found that my students get excellent results with mechanical pencils.

@johnkon2810

4 жыл бұрын

@@thedavinciinitiative5045 ... I understand, better than you think. I teach & tutor myself (Adobe). I'm both teacher or rather professor and student. I'm currently learning all the great techniques I've never learned. I'm starting from the beginning if you will. Even though a good majority of what I teach & tutor is digital based, I have my students draw their ideas first &/or scan a finished pencil on paper, (especially in life drawing), before painting digitally. I see to many kids relying on a computer for way to many things. That said, I actually have a bigger issue with my kids holding a pencil correctly & using their shoulder & a overhand grip. These days, it seems like everyone is stuck using the tri-pod grip. Anyhow, I see your point as far as mechanical pencils but, I'm still surprised because you need a light hand not to snap the lead. I have a very light hand but, very few of my students have a light hand too. Regardless, good luck with getting your students to sharpen their pencils. Like a proper grip, it's the little things that make a difference.

@Daetalus67

4 жыл бұрын

Dont know if I should tell you to calm down or shut up, both I guess. Sheesh guy, chill. These are great videos and information so how about some slack. I mean you can make your point but you don't need to be so rude. Asshole.

@johnkon2810

4 жыл бұрын

@@Daetalus67 ... calling someone an an asshole makes you the asshole. No one forced you to read my opinion. Overall these are great videos, I agree on that point. However, I found this advice to be a major issue that makes no sense & if you don't like it ... to F'N bad FANBOY.

@davemills3298

2 жыл бұрын

@@thedavinciinitiative5045 I use 2mm Staedtler which is the same diameter as wood pencils and has a fine quality graphite. Very efficient and comfortable tool. I can extend the lead out if needed and breakage is not a problem. Economical to boot as nearly the entire lead is used.