Bank 2 Misfire case study: Chevy Avalanche - Part 2

Ойын-сауық

Who's excited for Part 2?!?
Before watching the dramatic conclusion, make sure you take your best guess based on the data shown in Part 1 as to what the problem with this truck really is...
I guarantee that you will be as surprised as I was at the findings!
Enjoy!
Ivan

Пікірлер: 216

  • @stevedave5673
    @stevedave56736 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! Love watching the master of diagnostics at work! Thanks for once again taking us along.

  • @bigmac965
    @bigmac9656 жыл бұрын

    I had it figured for going lean, but suspected an intake manifold leak on that right bank maybe... Good find, Ivan. Love watching you solve mysteries!

  • @christianuy5791
    @christianuy57915 жыл бұрын

    Dude thank you so much for this case study. I learned a lot. I’m going to try that on my Audi A6 2001 running rich at 25% with horrible stalling misfires. As a paramedic we have differential diagnoses based on vitals, signs, symptoms, ekg, tests. That is called internal medicine, diagnosing based on assessments, vitals, tests, signs and symptoms; to dig deep and finding the right diagnosis for a problem that is not outright obvious. You are doing the same but just in the car world. I applaud that you are acting like a true automotive technician.

  • @classicwefi
    @classicwefi6 жыл бұрын

    Last winter my 02 Durango had a bad o2 the fuel trims went to 33 short and 33 long term so rich it stalled out flooding the plugs and did not set a o2 code or lean code . It set a p0129 baro code goes prove that you don't replace parts on code alone . Great vid :)

  • @somerandomguy3868
    @somerandomguy38686 жыл бұрын

    Excellent diagnosis and video as always, thanks for showing us

  • @sweetwilliam49
    @sweetwilliam496 жыл бұрын

    Good fix, what I kept going back to after you commented on vehicle having multiple converters, that vehicle warming up problem getting worse, thermal failure. What I really take away from this is the tools you must have to work on the modern vehicles, as opposed to the old ones that I still drive and am able to work on. Anyway good job!

  • @dc5723
    @dc57236 жыл бұрын

    Awesome, love your problem solving videos especially those where a pin in he connector is damaged/defective. Thanks

  • @livalittle100
    @livalittle1006 жыл бұрын

    Love these case studies with the full size GMs :) Thanks Ivan.

  • @pskauto6798
    @pskauto67986 жыл бұрын

    Very cool . I had my share of ignition and o2 related cars this week , it can certainly be taxing ... but it's relaxing to sit back and watch you figure out yours ! Lol Great content as usual sir !

  • @Techman-pt5zs
    @Techman-pt5zs6 жыл бұрын

    Finally, got some time to catch up on your videos. Well, done. From the beginning couple things came to mind such as clogged cat. timing, and O2. Do this next time. Go to oxygen data in the scan tool and look for current data pid and it would read 0ma compare to the other bank. This will definitely cut your diag time. Wait until you get 07 gm truck with same symptom and codes but it's a wild ride. Also, with buick enclaves. Good luck brother.

  • @AP9311
    @AP93116 жыл бұрын

    Just got home from long day at work. I got so many notifications. Was undecided on who to watch first, but Ivan!!! Yep. You're first to watch :) absolutely love your channel!

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Josh, positive comments like yours really brighten my day! Glad you enjoy the vids, thanks for being here :)

  • @QueenCityHistory
    @QueenCityHistory6 жыл бұрын

    Gotta love when Ivan figures out a tough problem. Like a kid on Christmas day! Ivan buddy amazing job as always!

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    That feeling is priceless indeed!

  • @stephenlawrence4362
    @stephenlawrence43626 жыл бұрын

    Another great analytic diagnosis . I love watching your mind set , and you proving your conclusions. Also no F bombs today, LOL

  • @jdtractorman7445
    @jdtractorman74456 жыл бұрын

    You are 100% correct about the test drive being critical. Sometimes what one person perceives as being the problem may be totally different from what the actual problem is. I've seen some techs that think a car has a transmission issue only to find a problem with the ignition system.

  • @zoidberg444
    @zoidberg4446 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. You got me with that one Ivan. The fuel trims didn't seem to out of whack when you looked at them on the car park. Nothing beats a good test drive and fuel trims are king above all else really.

  • @mikeoneill7360
    @mikeoneill73606 жыл бұрын

    Like you said, the necessity of the test drive is crucial. One of your best friend very, nice job.

  • @DaveSender66
    @DaveSender666 жыл бұрын

    I want to go to Staten Island University! Nice detective work Ivan!!!! You're getting quite the reputation in State College !!!! I agree with the other gentleman in a previous comment. Why the heck will GM not flag a bad O2 sensor? Of course the ECM can detect exactly what's going on with this O2 sensor. Come on GM pull yourselves together and fix this problem !!!!! Nice work Ivan !

  • @jamespn
    @jamespn6 жыл бұрын

    Great job Ivan.

  • @brucecolonna2142
    @brucecolonna21426 жыл бұрын

    You can command open loop with scan tool as another way to make ecm ignore o2 sensors. As always great to watch you go through your diagnosis

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    I just saw that in the "functional tests"... never tried that feature before!

  • @richardcranium5839
    @richardcranium58396 жыл бұрын

    wow that thing was dumping so much gas i bet eric could taste it lol. you sure kieth wasn't sitting at one of those dunkin doughnuts? hats off to you ivan on the format on this 2 part series. i enjoyed reading the comments and seeing where everyone was going on this. some made sense and some.. well.......... .

  • @krzysiekwalus6125
    @krzysiekwalus61256 жыл бұрын

    Great job. Im watching you Ivan from Poland.

  • @toamataafa4647
    @toamataafa46476 жыл бұрын

    Blessings Dr Ivan..cheers🍸.

  • @franksoliday5510
    @franksoliday55106 жыл бұрын

    Ivan, Great job as always. I have a '04 5.3L that came from the factory with the wrong plug wires installed that developed similar random misfires. That engine comes with either Melco (Mitsubishi) square coil packs or the Delphi round design packs that use two different length wires. The Melco requires a 10.5 inch wire and the Delphi use a 9.2 inch wire. RockAuto lists both types of wires and packs if you want to see a picture. Anyway the shorter wires will reach the square packs but are stretched like a piano wire and begin to fail intermittently after time. Just something else to watch for. When in doubt, buy the longer ones. Looking forward to your next video.

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Frank, I have seen the two different coils/wires setups on these trucks. Will make sure to keep an eye out for those stretched wires. Thanks for the tip :)

  • @livalittle100

    @livalittle100

    6 жыл бұрын

    This is great info, Thanks!

  • @baxrok2.
    @baxrok2.6 жыл бұрын

    Dang it, I misread that waveform. I honestly didn't know what to attribute that super long burn time too but now it makes sense since the fuel was so excessive that it wasn't being consumed. Great lessons here Ivan. Thanks so much for sharing!

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Actually in Part 1 the mixture was just fine (stoichiometric)! Now John, can you tell me why we saw the long burn time? ;)

  • @baxrok2.

    @baxrok2.

    6 жыл бұрын

    Initially, at idle when the trims were fine but misfires were still being detected? I'd say because of the fouled plugs. What do you think? (this could be a nice whiteboard video Ivan!)

  • @robinsonsmotorcycleandauto3929
    @robinsonsmotorcycleandauto39296 жыл бұрын

    Ive run into that before right after doing lifters on a 5.3. I believe when I pulled head coolant got on sensor causing the issue. Good job Ivan

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Coolant and oil fouled sensors can do weird stuff for sure...

  • @melvinjohnson7033
    @melvinjohnson70336 жыл бұрын

    Lots of wrong guests in part 1. Thanks for another quality vid Ivan.

  • @lustfulvengance
    @lustfulvengance6 жыл бұрын

    The ONE AND ONLY time the AutoZone "first thing I sell you is an O2 sensor" diagnosis would have actually worked!!

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    But we didn't have any "oxygen sensor" codes! I think they would sell you some coils, plugs, and wires first. Then MAF cleaner and fuel system cleaner xD

  • @GhettoWagon

    @GhettoWagon

    6 жыл бұрын

    And they will push you a bottle of Lucas and some seafoam

  • @lustfulvengance

    @lustfulvengance

    6 жыл бұрын

    I have seen them sell O2 sensors for just about anything, also if it has a misfire code you are going to be sold all of the ignition parts, and THAT is a guarantee lol

  • @heyitschinoable

    @heyitschinoable

    6 жыл бұрын

    Lustfulvengance 😂

  • @graymodeler

    @graymodeler

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ghetto Wagon that actually happened to me in one of my parts stores. Reminded me of one of those product pushers in the grocery stores.

  • @dezblyan5125
    @dezblyan51256 жыл бұрын

    nice find had me confused too didn't know what it was gonna be

  • @MitzvosGolem1
    @MitzvosGolem15 жыл бұрын

    Excellent work thanks! Have same issue now.

  • @Pablo_Automotive
    @Pablo_Automotive6 жыл бұрын

    Nice diagnostic Iván ☺

  • @bigrockk2980
    @bigrockk29806 жыл бұрын

    Another great diagnosis to learn from, never suspected the O2 sensors as the data looked good before the test drive. More good info to commit to the memory banks, trouble is the memory banks aren't what they used to be :). Thanks again Ivan.

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Memory Bank 1 or Memory Bank 2? ;)

  • @bigrockk2980

    @bigrockk2980

    6 жыл бұрын

    Whichever one has a little room left, they are both pretty full of useless stuff :)

  • @ashtonletson6699
    @ashtonletson66993 жыл бұрын

    Haven't drove it yet but mine drove fine but at idle it would misfire I just unplugged 02 sensor it worked perfect as of right now hoping that's the problem really thankful for this video!!!

  • @markferraro5250
    @markferraro52506 жыл бұрын

    thanks Ivan keep em coming

  • @johnaclark1
    @johnaclark16 жыл бұрын

    Nice one, Ivan!

  • @mobileautomotiveservices5461
    @mobileautomotiveservices54616 жыл бұрын

    Good job Ivan, lambda sensor fixed low! I'm always interested in the bank specific misfires you guys get over in the States because I get so few V engines to work with over here in Ireland, just the 3/4/5/6 pot straight petrol and diesels!

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes, it is very helpful when you have a "known good" bank to compare to! I've seen some 4 and 6 in-line engines (Toyota, Mitsubishi, BMW) where the fuel systems are separated into two "banks"...

  • @haywardsautomotive6156
    @haywardsautomotive61566 жыл бұрын

    Great video Ivan. That explains the intermittent long burn time 3ms and higher and the low burn line which happens on a rich mixture . Scope waveform was spot on! Reading the plug would have shown rich also but the waveform read it perfectly. Great call on the test drive nailed the O2 sensor. Check out the TSB 05-06-04-063 LM7, L59, or L33 Engines With Cold Start Rough or Inconsistent Idle, Misfire, MIL "On" or Flashing Requiring O2 Sensor Replacement & PCM Reprogramming... Again great video series Ivan!!

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    You are the TSB master, Bob. Thank you for looking that up! Yes, the scope was not lying. Now can you see the difference on the waveform between a rich mixture, and an actual misfire on a fouled plug? When I took the initial capture, the mixture was GOOD, but we still got the bad waveform, indicating the plug was already fouled on the previous run :)

  • @haywardsautomotive6156

    @haywardsautomotive6156

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics Yep I learned how to read secondary patterns on a Sun scope at BOCES in NY in 73-74 and they are a great diagnostic tool but some inductive pickups don't give the details. I used to use my Snap-on scope but the Pico has such a better waveform. That waveform also look similar to a spark plug that was just starting to carbon track especially the way it dissipated the energy at the end and the long burn line. Rich fouled spark plugs waveforms look the same after 40+ years. Just think we were the ECM & O2 sensors back then & rejetted carbs, air bleeds, ign timing, changed spark plug heat ranges, etc nut now it's done in micro seconds. Reading spark plugs has become a lost art & the base of the plug is where the real reading is taken. If I can have easy access to a plug I yank it out and it tells a story and saves time sometimes. TSBs also have saved me from chasing my butt over an issue that is corrected by a software upgrade. Eric actually posted it before me I just piggybacked on his post. Your diagnostic skills are impressive Ivan...Look forward to your next video.

  • @MuhammadAli-su3oo

    @MuhammadAli-su3oo

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hayward's Automotive I do Love really you Guys, discussing and sharing your experience with us. I appreciate it by heart. Try to learn for sure.. in the First video; Waveform 2ndry Spark, Spark Burn Time apparently looked long. Spark Line high; lean mixture & Spark Burn Time long; rich mixture. At Test Drive O2 acted up and so it helped to conclude. I honestly liked much Ivan's ideology that Test Drive helps to see more better what's going on. Thanks Ivan

  • @NewLevelAuto
    @NewLevelAuto6 жыл бұрын

    Very nice diagnosis sir . Surprised it wasn't stuck lean all the time . Usually the intermittent o2 is reserved for the Chryslers

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Might have nailed it in the parking lot if I actually looked at the Freeze Frame for the P0174 haha

  • @nicknicu1787

    @nicknicu1787

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics If you ask me,I think you did it on purpose to keep us guessing and make for a good video. Lol!

  • @abdulb7178

    @abdulb7178

    6 жыл бұрын

    thanks for the video Wouldn't get code for unplugging O2 sensor?

  • @robinsonsauto

    @robinsonsauto

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nick Nicu 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @MuhammadAli-su3oo

    @MuhammadAli-su3oo

    6 жыл бұрын

    New Level Auto Always love Keith's entry by any means. You're teaching us nicely and motivating each other :) Paul Danner is also nice among You.

  • @jennifer06131
    @jennifer061316 жыл бұрын

    Thumbs up. I will watch it later i know you always delivered a good stuff. Lol

  • @jeroenschuuring6060
    @jeroenschuuring60606 жыл бұрын

    WOT is in open loop in most engine management systems. Make sure the cat is not damaged on bank two. They can heat up and burn from the excess fuel but very good catch. Thumbs up 👍👍👍

  • @kirkbrady2497
    @kirkbrady249711 ай бұрын

    This was exactly what was wrong with my gmc sierra 1500hd at 350 000km. Great video. That computer save the parts cannon. I put lot's of parts in to it before o2.

  • @markferraro5250
    @markferraro52506 жыл бұрын

    great 2 part video thank you

  • @TheCowgirlNiamh
    @TheCowgirlNiamh6 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant as always Ivan! :)

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Eh, just got lucky on this one by not digging a deep rabbit hole with those initial misfires ;D

  • @luccyjayz
    @luccyjayz2 жыл бұрын

    Life saver! Had the same truck 04 avalanche same exact issue! Same fix!

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup common problem, easy fix :)

  • @jwhiz3219
    @jwhiz32196 жыл бұрын

    Nice job Ivan. Valuable insight. You are awesome!

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Jeff! Are you the PowerProbe guy?

  • @jwhiz3219

    @jwhiz3219

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes I am. I am now on a quest to learn more about diagnostics using scanners. You bring a lot to the table with your case studies, regardless how simple they are for you. Keep up the great work Ivan.

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Cool! I have a PP4 sitting on the shelf here, waiting for some experimentation and critical evaluation. I already did a review on Dan Sullivan's LoadPro, that was a lot of fun :) On modern cars sometimes all you need for a diagnosis is a good scanner and critical thinking!

  • @jwhiz3219

    @jwhiz3219

    6 жыл бұрын

    I agree. There are many ways to reach a diagnostic conclusion with computer controlled systems and you have shown that the most powerful tool for getting a clear graphical picture is a good scanner with scope. Its fun to watch how you walk us through the process and include the challenges you are facing along with the solutions. I watched your review on the LoadPro. Very understandable and you showed all angles, both the advantages and disadvantages. Every tool has its application. You will find the PP4 to have some cool features that help the technician save time in probing for voltage readings, continuity testing, resistance testing, and some other things. Where the Power Probe really shines is in its ability to activate certain electrical components with Power and Ground. Of course it can't be compared to applications where a scope and scanner are best suited. That is where watching you use those tools to find solutions is really interesting and fun. Keep going, I like to learn too.

  • @jamesfenton7338
    @jamesfenton73386 жыл бұрын

    Old time technique, visual inspection, test drive, mechanical inspection. Damn computers made some issues easier, and some issues more difficult to spot. It was so nice they left #2 unplugged for you....

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    haha yeah good thing I peeked under the hood before the test drive!

  • @theadventuresofjavier8698
    @theadventuresofjavier86986 жыл бұрын

    Bravo comrade. Vodka for everyone.on the house. Excellent job Ivan. We are proud of you here in California.

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'll go for some hot tea instead haha

  • @theadventuresofjavier8698

    @theadventuresofjavier8698

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics next time your in the San Francisco bay area, hot tea is on me...a little vodka or tequila is optional.

  • @TheForcedinductn

    @TheForcedinductn

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nice, another SF bay viewer. I'll buy Ivan's dessert after he finishes his tea :)

  • @theadventuresofjavier8698

    @theadventuresofjavier8698

    6 жыл бұрын

    FORCED-INDUCTN deal...if he went to Montana to do a clutch im sure he would come to California for hot tea and dessert.

  • @jewllake

    @jewllake

    6 жыл бұрын

    From Hercules CA! :)

  • @whbrown16
    @whbrown166 жыл бұрын

    So could a plugged cat. converter cause the same symptoms? I too have misfires on one bank only.

  • @Chris-Fennimore
    @Chris-Fennimore6 жыл бұрын

    Amazing. Thanks Ivan.

  • @bodgitandleggitgarage
    @bodgitandleggitgarage6 жыл бұрын

    About time nice diagnosis great job

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    haha thanks Leon! I was going to wait until tomorrow morning, but Keith finally posted a comment on Part 1 xD

  • @robinsonsauto

    @robinsonsauto

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics I took notes and next I will do the same hahaha I will simply say need to see more 😂😉

  • @nandor690
    @nandor6906 жыл бұрын

    see, we could have known that in video 1 had you shown the fuel trims during the misfiring like I asked. ;-) Good videos brutha

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! But please review the footage in Part 1. The fuel trims looked perfect even during the misfires. At that point the O2 sensor was still working just fine :)

  • @nandor690

    @nandor690

    6 жыл бұрын

    I’ll have too. I could have sworn you only showed them when it was running good. It’s amazing what you can figure out when you know how to read fuel trims along with O2 sensors. Great job!

  • @willemstreutgers1154
    @willemstreutgers11546 жыл бұрын

    Nice fix Ivan. I suggest to sodablast all the sparkplugs just as a service to the customer.

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sodablast?

  • @willemstreutgers1154

    @willemstreutgers1154

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well in the past Champion had a sandblast apparatus, but left sand in the sparkplug will ruin the engine so use soda instead. Some mechanics are just burning the coal with a torch but i think it's not good for the isolator. kzread.info/dash/bejne/mHuAsKqkftifl7g.html

  • @robinsonsauto
    @robinsonsauto6 жыл бұрын

    Nice job Ivan, keep up the good work 👍🍻

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Will do, Will :)

  • @robinsonsauto

    @robinsonsauto

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics well if anything I can say im glad you checked cyl 2 and found a loose plug. Wish we had the first 2 minutes of this this video on part one. It was key information. None the less good job!!! Little staged and set up but good job hahahahaha I'm certain the issue was known before record was hit 😂😂😂😂 love you to Ivan even though you set me up 😋

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    I wasn't on Staten Island, so this one was 100% LIVE!

  • @robinsonsauto

    @robinsonsauto

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics you did great 👍 I'm just playing with you

  • @stevenjames7073
    @stevenjames70736 жыл бұрын

    Thank u for sharing.

  • @tigrisr7503
    @tigrisr75034 жыл бұрын

    good job 👍

  • @hvvjuvhvvf5810
    @hvvjuvhvvf58106 жыл бұрын

    Good information thanks for it

  • @throttlebottle5906
    @throttlebottle59066 жыл бұрын

    I tend to brake torque them hard for load tests also, just not for too long or too many times. if it allows it that is :)

  • @bobmunck976
    @bobmunck9766 жыл бұрын

    Ivan, thank you for taking the time to make these videos. I was wondering if it would be possible to help DIY people like myself without expensive diagnosis machine. Could you suggest a cheap tester in the $100.00 range. Something that can read codes and suggest possible problems. Thank you for your help

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Actron.

  • @eldoradony
    @eldoradony6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Ivan, I learned something. Just curious why the unpluged sensor didn't set a code and turn on the check engine light.

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    It did set a couple codes, but needed another drive cycle to turn on the light :)

  • @thetinpin
    @thetinpin6 жыл бұрын

    Oooooh, a "Sample title" video! Sweet! :3

  • @allenk5649
    @allenk56496 жыл бұрын

    Impressive!

  • @elcheapo5302
    @elcheapo53026 жыл бұрын

    All those new Dunkin Donuts are because they heard Keith was coming for a visit.

  • @MechanicTechnicianRepair
    @MechanicTechnicianRepair6 жыл бұрын

    Exselecte diagnostic amigo nice video

  • @SmittySmithsonite
    @SmittySmithsonite6 жыл бұрын

    Ahh, not what I was expecting! Post cat sensor told the tale! I missed that in the first vid. In the beginning of this video, I thought you were going to say, "So ... on this truck, .... I'd like to bounce it off a few trees and set it on fire". HAAHAHA! I don't think this one had you THAT stressed out though. That's just how my mind works late at night. :D

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    You didn't miss anything in the first vid! All the data was spot-on!

  • @SmittySmithsonite

    @SmittySmithsonite

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ahh yeah, I have a bad habit of forgetting things minutes after. Good example of how you've got to test drive vehicles to get all the right info! I've got lazy in the past and not taken a vehicle for a ride, figuring it would take too long ... but that came back to bite me in the ass big time! The longer you watch the data, the better! Great vid man!

  • @robert-bg9pf
    @robert-bg9pf6 жыл бұрын

    In theory could you have unplugged the coolant temp sensor to keep the ECM running in open loop which ignores the O2 sensors until warmed up?? Or am I thinking of something else that is ignored in Open loop??

  • @michaelkane732
    @michaelkane7326 жыл бұрын

    i wish you lived in chicago great diag as always

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Chicago is the Mecca for mobile diagnostics! I think all the good trainers are from that area...

  • @GhettoWagon
    @GhettoWagon6 жыл бұрын

    Ya they are Denso's Or buy the AC delco o2 sensor for More $$ and its a reboxed denso.

  • @limitlessworx5724
    @limitlessworx57242 жыл бұрын

    I have a 2007 Tahoe that misses on bank 1 after changing motor mount ran great before that changed plugs,wires,o2 sensors,coil harness did all that after I found broken ground wire that is repaired still not fixed any help welcomed

  • @philtebo5155
    @philtebo51556 жыл бұрын

    part 3 = P0430 diagnosis lol . Great job

  • @wyattoneable
    @wyattoneable6 жыл бұрын

    Ah okay, it makes sense now. It is a great video to confirm scopes are a needed commodity for a lot of diagnostics.

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well actually scope wasn't really needed in this case... Just scanner with decent graphing capability, and the mush between the ears lol

  • @wyattoneable

    @wyattoneable

    6 жыл бұрын

    That's right. I lost my mind. :)

  • @caduceus33
    @caduceus336 жыл бұрын

    Was it unnecessary to check the wiring to the O2 sensor, because the engine ran better with it unplugged?

  • @jonahv9572
    @jonahv95723 жыл бұрын

    Facinating

  • @robert-bg9pf
    @robert-bg9pf6 жыл бұрын

    I would definitely be warning the customer that it's very likely a few codes and possible a clogged or melted Cat may be coming in the not so distant future as a result of running rich for any period of time instead of just bringing in to be fixed right away.

  • @nicknicu1787
    @nicknicu17876 жыл бұрын

    I'm far from being the expert here,but I did comment in the first video about the lean code... Out of that list of codes you had initially,the lean code would've been the first I'd attack with misfires. What was the reason the PCM set a lean code if the fuel trims were fine?

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes Nick, you were spot on that the lean code was key! Apparently the failure only occurred once the vehicle is driven and the oxygen sensor gets really hot. Freeze frame data should have shown us this :)

  • @nandor690
    @nandor6906 жыл бұрын

    Side Note: Did you know there is a hidden 500GB partition on the D10 that snap on doesnt use for anything. I have Mitchell and save my waveforms to it

  • @RobertHancock1
    @RobertHancock16 жыл бұрын

    My old '03 Saturn Ion had something similar - the O2 sensor would be fine shortly after you started it up, but after driving it a while so it got fully warmed up it would just pin itself lean and eventually started setting B1S1 low voltage codes. Could be GM got some bad O2 sensors around that time period that would crap out like this.

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ha at least yours set a code for a sensor, not just a generic (and false) "system too lean" :)

  • @movingupautodiagnostics8645
    @movingupautodiagnostics86456 жыл бұрын

    DD is going strong thanks to some staten islanders.... great job comrade!

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Emanuel! There must be 100 DD locations on that island thanks to Keith xD

  • @movingupautodiagnostics8645

    @movingupautodiagnostics8645

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics I might be joining DD anonymous

  • @fieldsofomagh
    @fieldsofomagh6 жыл бұрын

    Why did you have to take the truck on the road and how did that affect the 02 sensor ?

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Got it nice and hot. Only then did it show the failure!

  • @theoldwizard998
    @theoldwizard9986 жыл бұрын

    Dunkin' Donuts = too far south for Tim Horton's ! Rather odd that the O2 sensor did not quit until it was fully hot.

  • @wendellperkins7605
    @wendellperkins76056 жыл бұрын

    I have a 2005 Sierra with the 5.3L engine which coincidently has similar symptoms. Timely video for me. Thanks.

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nothin to it but do do it! Good luck on the repair!

  • @shuriKen469
    @shuriKen4695 жыл бұрын

    any harm in just leaving that upstream O2 sensor unplugged, long term that is? assuming it gets replaced at some point, but shaking at idle is no bueno.

  • @bradleyschmidlkofer3013

    @bradleyschmidlkofer3013

    4 жыл бұрын

    Poor fuel mileage

  • @lightningsmokerXx
    @lightningsmokerXx6 жыл бұрын

    13:01 - XL7 , Krown or Not to Krown. Perhaps the Rogue instead of the XL7. ;)

  • @drfirojtadavi
    @drfirojtadavi4 жыл бұрын

    I have GMC Acadia 2010 75 k km , misfiring 2,4,6 cylinder with LTFT bank 1 is -8% and bank 2 is -13% change spark plug, ignition coil, ECM, fuel injectors, but still misfiring when cold start, can you advise me

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cam timing

  • @aymenmohamed1134
    @aymenmohamed1134 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome

  • @ozzstars_cars
    @ozzstars_cars6 жыл бұрын

    No soldering or bonus footage at the end?? What gives? haha Nice find, really amazed me how the test drive gave the evidence needed to find the problem. No O2 codes....just shows how dumb some cars still are.

  • @stigonutube
    @stigonutube6 жыл бұрын

    Cool, looks like it ran great after you unplugged the Oxygen sensor and ecu went to default strategy...under 100,000 ks not many ks for a v8..

  • @emmashepard2070
    @emmashepard20706 жыл бұрын

    The first video I thought the 02 sensor reading looked a little bit wonky.. Not a nice up down loop. But I disregarded it.. Because obviously it wouldn't be the 02.. That's the first part people throw at an engine when it starts misfiring.. I was surprised. Also if it was me I would like to test the heater circuit before throwing a sensor at it. Despite it not throwing a code for it.

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    It threw a B2S1 heater circuit code after I unplugged it, so heater was fine. I always thought people replace spark plugs, wires, and coils for misfire problems :)

  • @calholli
    @calholli2 жыл бұрын

    I bet the plugs are fine... They're just flooded. Fix the O2 issue and the plugs will likely clean up fine.

  • @jesusmfelix-fu4qz
    @jesusmfelix-fu4qz5 жыл бұрын

    I have the same problem but it runs better better when i unplug one of the bank 2 inyectors i plug it back i get back the misfire

  • @jannepo
    @jannepo6 жыл бұрын

    Aha! A loose spark plug, well that explains the low compression on#2 @ idle and ignition waveform. The answer was at 0:44 @ part 1: P0174. Did we check the freeze frames for that?

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    In this case I think the Freeze Frame would have been very helpful indeed. But then video wouldn't be as fun ;)

  • @jannepo

    @jannepo

    6 жыл бұрын

    Very true (both) :-)

  • @jannepo

    @jannepo

    6 жыл бұрын

    A great video again! Thanks Ivan!

  • @richardcranium5839

    @richardcranium5839

    6 жыл бұрын

    isn t it funny how hind sight is almost always 20/20? lol

  • @jannepo

    @jannepo

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes it is, I beat myself that I did not catch that from the part one.

  • @charlesmiller5078
    @charlesmiller50786 жыл бұрын

    Could you take the oxygen sensor with the correct signal and splice the signal into the bad signal wire from the other bank, in affect disconnecting the bad sensor, and using one sensor to run both banks, would the strength of the signal be enough to fool the computer.

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Great question, Charles! Might have to try that out at some point. Not sure the computer would like the two O2 sensor inputs being tied together...especially on this system with the bias voltage. But it just might work!

  • @richardcranium5839

    @richardcranium5839

    6 жыл бұрын

    you could maybe build an o2 simulator that you could dial in using a trim pot. biggest problem would be all the different connector ends. then you could dial rich or lean to see how the computer reacts

  • @MechanicTechnicianRepair
    @MechanicTechnicianRepair6 жыл бұрын

    Yuo. Good tech.

  • @carlbrandon8040
    @carlbrandon80406 жыл бұрын

    nice patience....

  • @nukelauncher95
    @nukelauncher956 жыл бұрын

    Why is the check engine light off with b2s1 unplugged?

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Great question! It would take two drive cycles with the sensor unplugged to actually illuminate the check engine light.

  • @nukelauncher95

    @nukelauncher95

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I would have thought that it would have set a code that would turn on the light pretty much instantly. I guess GM does things differently.

  • @chungaleta1234
    @chungaleta12346 жыл бұрын

    I knew it couldn't be a weird bizarre thing.... It is not Staten Island. LOL

  • @lorettamartin1518
    @lorettamartin15182 жыл бұрын

    hello i have a 2007 avalanche and i have many misfire i was told by chevy place and put sensor lifters coils spark plug wire crankshaft oil pump i have little power now after driving it for two day chevy recommend new engine should i go that route are can my engine be save please someone help me

  • @lorettamartin1518

    @lorettamartin1518

    2 жыл бұрын

    and i forgot to add trak trac control stabil light on

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow sounds like a major parts cannon MISFIRE lol!

  • @wdalbash25tag25
    @wdalbash25tag256 жыл бұрын

    nice

  • @jewllake
    @jewllake6 жыл бұрын

    there are 3 ignorant people out there as of now! Great video and diagnosis!

  • @jamespn
    @jamespn6 жыл бұрын

    Does it smell like raw gasoline or like sulfur (rotten eggs)?

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's a toxic smell...not raw gas since combustion is occurring, but a lot of hydrocarbons are not oxidized. Not quite rotten eggs either.

  • @Micko350
    @Micko3506 жыл бұрын

    Ivan I'm sure you showed fuel trims in part 1 & they were fine?!

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yup, that is accurate. Blows my mind too haha

  • @Micko350

    @Micko350

    6 жыл бұрын

    Welloilbeefhooked!!! Just goes to show, never trust a scanner 100%!!!

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Scanner was fine...so was the data. The sensor just needed to get hot enough to show the failure! That's the kicker lol

  • @Micko350

    @Micko350

    6 жыл бұрын

    Haha yeah I mean I know the scanner & data were showing 'correct' data (C'mon it's Snap-on, not like it's an Autel complete with Chinglish translations) but yeah! I don't recall seeing the temp guage on cold in part 1?!

Келесі