This show was so complex, with aspects of politics and religion that most shows wont dare to touch. This was one of the best sci-fi shows ever.

@DivineFalcon

3 жыл бұрын

If any shows nowadays tries to be this complex, it gets axed in one or two seasons. It's all about the angsty space drama shit now, unfortunately.

@silaskuemmerle2505

3 жыл бұрын

@@DivineFalcon we can blame social media for that, people don’t have long enough attention spans to stick with a show that doesn’t have drama and action scenes every 5 minutes

@Justanotherconsumer

3 жыл бұрын

They really grabbed that third rail and went full Jenkins with the first season episode “Believers.”

@bengeldinger

2 жыл бұрын

Ivonava is god (sorry about the gld thing)

@rameses1979

2 жыл бұрын

Instant gratification is a disease

Maggie Egan didn't play the part. She WAS the part. Makes me cry every time I watch this.

@corykelley187

3 жыл бұрын

I was just thinking that

@TheNoybusiness

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. It's one of a handful of TV moments that make me tear up. The others are all the Potential Slayers becoming actual Slayers in the Buffy finale "Chosen", and Aang using the blindsight he learned from Toph to survive his final battle with Ozai in the Avatar: The Last Airbender finale "Sozin's Comet". .

@johngregory4801

2 жыл бұрын

She WAS ISN... Until Clarke took it over. Seeing her return to the anchor desk was when I knew everything was going to be alright. INCREDIBLE episode, AMAZING series!!!

This was a fantastic bit of acting by Maggie Egan.

Sometimes I think Babylon 5 should be taught in schools as preparation for people to understand REAL adult life and to understand why you NEVER give one person complete power over your life.

@Debilitator47

3 жыл бұрын

Well said. Although I think you meant 'preparation', not perpetration. Preparation is getting ready for the future. Perpetration is the action of committing a crime. Hope this helps.

@SezarOroo

3 жыл бұрын

@@Debilitator47 Oops.

@ethenallen1388

3 жыл бұрын

It's also important to understand that no one in this series saw themselves as the villain.

@SezarOroo

2 жыл бұрын

@Hoa Tattis Wow so deep... aren't you the guy his comments I just had to remove from my vids?

@SezarOroo

2 жыл бұрын

@Hoa Tattis And BTW, I'm Jewish and my family came from Germany you fuck, so please, don't tell me about human suffering on world war 2.

Something worth noting here: The guy who was next to her when ISN was attacked and shut down is not seen here, nor anywhere else on the show ever again.

@KristerAndersson-nc8zo

4 жыл бұрын

He was of course killed.

@vguyver2

4 жыл бұрын

@@KristerAndersson-nc8zo She wasn't supporting his actions at the time and was clearly terrified. He was brave enough but likely paid the price.

@shamaliwije4872

3 жыл бұрын

She did say that some of her colleagues were executed.

@exposingproxystalkingorgan4164

3 жыл бұрын

@@shamaliwije4872 dictatorships of all kinds do execute and intimidate many people who do not agree with them.

@shamaliwije4872

3 жыл бұрын

@@exposingproxystalkingorgan4164 When tyrants appear, there's a high likelihood of journalists getting 'disappeared'. Considering how Clark unleashed the Scorched Earth directive, killing a few disagreeing journalists would have been peanuts to him compared to that.

The pause at "interrogated" kills me

@tatianalyulkin410

Ай бұрын

We all know what she meant. Unfortunately.

Straczynski is a talented man. I think he literally predicted our future.

@tatianalyulkin410

8 ай бұрын

Yes- that he most certainly is. He predicted the Ukrainian civil war.

@sandal_thong8631

23 күн бұрын

I think he was using the past to imagine a future where a dictator could take over. Today and since about 2015, we've had a worldwide far-right movement to put authoritarians in power, who don't believe in truth, justice and democracy, but rather power and putting minorities of all kinds and women in their place.

One thing I always loved about this show. Was they showed Step by step the slow fall into a dictatorship that can happen and the effects it can have on people even normal people just trying to live their lives.

@censorshipsucks9493

Жыл бұрын

You mean like today in the United States.

@garycannon4644

11 ай бұрын

@@censorshipsucks9493 stop it

@censorshipsucks9493

11 ай бұрын

@@garycannon4644 I'd like to, but I'm only one man.

@catsi563

9 ай бұрын

@@censorshipsucks9493 sometimes all it takes to stop tyranny is one man to stand up instead of kneel, to say No not on my watch, no not in my name

@censorshipsucks9493

9 ай бұрын

@@catsi563 Truth is if I didn't have a wife, and family to support I'd try to be that man.

She couldn't have been free for more than a day, and the first thing she does is go back to the studio and report on what happened to them.

@davidpickens8800

3 жыл бұрын

When the Russian coup under Yeltsin, this scenario happened

@WardNightstone

3 жыл бұрын

because she's a reporter and knew what her duty was

@AlexGreeneHypnotist

3 жыл бұрын

That's the difference between a mere paid job, and a calling.

@seppijessup9563

2 жыл бұрын

You do know this was a tv show right?

@Axius27

2 жыл бұрын

@@seppijessup9563 Yes, I was exercising a little psychological phenomenon called 'Suspension of Disbelief' to treat a high concept work as if it were real. You should try it sometime, I promise it will make any fictional story much more enjoyable 🙄

I wonder if in that universe there would still be doubters saying that Sheridan was under alien control and that the defense grid being turned on Earth was "fake news"

@roguelead72

2 жыл бұрын

Probably, I mean it even happened in the Star Wars Legends universe saying Endor didn't happen and in the Firefly universe saying the broadcast about Miranda was a fake.

@FynneRoke

Жыл бұрын

I know this isn't the point, but there canonically were.

@jchester316

Жыл бұрын

Of course there would be. In the present day we have people who deny genocides, pandemic deaths, and twist themselves into pretzels trying to claim that the Capitol riot was just a peaceful protest. Humans in the B5 future have advanced *somewhat* from where we are at today, but not by light years. Some still have very reptillian brians, and some are still very easily susceptible to propaganda and misinformation.

@LordGertz

Жыл бұрын

Yes, remember the new President of Earth said to make everyone happy, she should give Sheridan a medal and then take him out back to be shot.

@Lucius_Chiaraviglio

Жыл бұрын

@@FynneRoke Yep. That comes later (in the Season 4 finale).

This was another moment where the writing and acting really shone. Bringing back this character really added a human/emotional touch

@FJF1085

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I remember thinking that they were probably killed when they stormed the station so it was really great to see her back and just another example of how well this show was planned out...for the most part.

@FJF1085

3 жыл бұрын

@Anjelica Snorcket My understanding is the story lines in both season 4 and 5 were supposed to be spread across both seasons. All the 'A' plot got put into season 4 and after all that was left were 'B' and 'C' plots for season 5. The story was planned for 5 years but they were canceled after 4 but they were told in season 3 that season 4 would be last so they had time to plan some kind of ending. They had no way of knowing TNT would pick them up for season 5, which is why season 5 feels... lacking.

@FJF1085

3 жыл бұрын

@Anjelica Snorcket I figured I just thought I would spell it out in case anyone else didn't know that. Anyway its really a shame when you think about it since the end could have been much better, its just that season 5 plots felt very anticlimactic after the Shadow war and all that, but knowing what we know that makes sense. I really would love to see a revival of this show, I feel like it has never gotten the respect it is due.

@DavidKnowles0

3 жыл бұрын

@@FJF1085 even season season 4 plots I don't think was in the order originally intended, I always suspect earth was suppose to be free of the shadow influence before the battle between the younger races, shadows and vorlons final batter happen. But they were so desperate to tell the end of the shadow/vorlon storyline they move it up in case they got their episode number cut for the season. They also never made it 100% clear that Psicorp was working with the shadows. I suspect we were suppose to have also seen Byron heavily involve in the war against the shadows. Which would then get us on his side more and that the galaxy really does owe the telepaths a huge debt but we never saw that.

@FJF1085

3 жыл бұрын

@@DavidKnowles0 It's really a shame that we didn't get the story as it was originally planned because it was a fully planned story. That being said I still love the show and I think it is so underrated. You never really hear it discussed. But if anyone ever tells me they're into Sci-Fi this is one of the first shows I recommend.

And moments like this are why B5 cannot be topped. No other Sci-fi show manages to be so grounded yet entertaining as B5, and thats what i love about itm

@robertnett9793

Жыл бұрын

The really cool thing about B5 compared to say StarTrek was, that it was focused on the station and the important figures there - but it never failed to give you glimpses and views of the everyday normal people. I just want to add the attack on B5 by some random alien force, watched throught the eyes of those two janitors.

@cya2139

11 ай бұрын

I would say Deep Space Nine came close

@GameslordXY

3 ай бұрын

Not even Battlestar Galactica?

@GameslordXY

3 ай бұрын

​@@cya2139 BSG(Battlestar Galactica)?

People might remember that this was the anchor who was cut off and nearly decapitated by falling rubble. She is even wearing the same dress. Yet the expression on her face tells you something has changed her.

@danielhaire6677

7 ай бұрын

She has been forced to look into the Abyss, and she didn't blink.

This is, without a doubt, one of the most moving pieces of TV I can remember. The bit where she's crying at the beginning - gets me every time

@Ryooken

5 жыл бұрын

Kind of reminds me of today.

@napoleonsolo5929

3 жыл бұрын

Same.

@TheMrPeteChannel

5 ай бұрын

Very unprofessional for an anchor. No anchor cried during 9-11.

I love how the ISN logo is derived from the same font as the B5 credit... same art department.

I was very impressed by her skill in this scene. It reminded me of the newscaster who returned to the air after the Soviet army came and shut them down. I asked Maggie if she had seen that and used it as a guide on how to play the character. She said "No, I played it the way I would have felt if I was in her place." It was SPOT ON!

@BillThompson1955

2 ай бұрын

The way she hesitated and shakily nodded when she described how journalists had been tortured and killed added an awesome depth to her scene. Her captors must have told her nobody was being tortured or killed, and she was refuting the way they gaslit her.

I am in love with the silence. There is no background music, no commentary and no chatter. It has that somber tone of many major news stories of the past.

@TonkarzOfSolSystem

4 жыл бұрын

And the newsy tune straight into solemn broadcast.

@kmarasin

4 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of TDS right after 9/11

We are all sons and daughters of Earth and we must continue to remember that if we are to heal and move forward. Everyone was fighting for Earth, even if they didn't agree on what was best for Earth.

@InfernosReaper

3 жыл бұрын

It's easy to forget that not everyone has the same information to form the same conclusions, too, especially when a particularly good propaganda machine that built up over time is involved.

@Justanotherconsumer

3 жыл бұрын

@@InfernosReaper there’s an episode that shows what people back on Earth were hearing about B5. (The corps is mother the corps is father.)

@InfernosReaper

3 жыл бұрын

@@Justanotherconsumer That's the one where Franklin decided going on Walkabout wasn't a good idea, right?

@mnomadvfx

3 жыл бұрын

@@Justanotherconsumer Lyta: I'm an orphan. Poor Lyta, she truly is at the end of the show - an orphan with a friend, but an orphan none the less.

@Yuurei21

3 жыл бұрын

Should be the qoute of 2021.

I found it a great touch to see this particular news anchor back on screen. I was actually like "Nice to see you again, Jane." And Maggie Egan did such a great job! Small but powerful scene, on a par with the best of them!

@alexbrown1930

4 жыл бұрын

And that she is alone at that desk, when she always had her co-anchor before? Subtle detail, but speaks volumes..

I remember watching that the first time and remembering just how happy I was to see her back on the air.

She did a great job. Very sincere performance. Believable and forthright.

And this is why I love B5. It didn't have the best CGI but damn did it have the best storytelling and world building!

@thepayne7862

Жыл бұрын

For the time the cgi was quite good, it was the mid 90's after all and that's when cgi started to take off.

I met her at the reunion con in Galveston, TX. Wonderful person. I didn't know the huge body of work she has.

I love her gag reel clip. "We now go, live, to Actor." Cut "Ahk'dor, I im noht an Ahk'dor." She was brilliant in this role.

This show was so freaking good and so ahead of its time

I still can't believe even after a news report outright told them that Clark turned the defence grid Earthwards...people still supported Clark.

@williambrennan104

4 жыл бұрын

The Fake News MinbarISN will do and say anything to trash OUR PRESIDENT, who was removed from office in an illegal treasonous coup while he was trying to Make Earth Great Again!

@override367

4 жыл бұрын

@@williambrennan104 The Drahk Plague is fake news, and they're using OUR TAX DOLLARS to send the Excalibur out to find a cure. Centauri Hoax!

@vguyver2

4 жыл бұрын

@@williambrennan104 That's the the real threat of misinformation and rewriting history. Think about it. If say... a certain president became an autocrat, declared all other news sources fake, and started silencing all opposing media and banning elections. Yeah, that could be a reality if left unconfronted.

@stevel9914

3 жыл бұрын

@@vguyver2 strange ... it seems the opposite to me . That the press was taken over a couple of decades ago and the fight is ongoing.

@SantomPh

2 жыл бұрын

White people, right?

Journalists with integrity, nice.

@travcollier

2 жыл бұрын

Before it was taken over, ISN was very far from perfect. Its value was only made clear once it was gone (taken over to become an actual propaganda machine.)

@mikegrossberg8624

2 жыл бұрын

@@travcollier Twenty-some-odd-years later, Babylon 5 as prophesy

That brief tear of vulnerability. So understated....and brilliant.

B5 was simply the most believable sci-fi future that has ever been portrayed on TV. We are blessed it had its full run!

Just the little pieces of dialogue like this - with the raw emotion- reminds me of damn good this show was. Like [ most of ] the Star Treks , it wasn't really about hardware or monsters , it was about the human condition.

@asvarien

6 жыл бұрын

It's interesting that B5 showed culture on earth had progressed since the 19th century with scenes like ISN broadcasts and Delenn picking up the newspaper with the Eye on Minbar section. In Star Trek everyone is obsessed with 19th and 20th century culture; Picard and his classical music and classical literature, Paris and his obsession with 20th century America, Data and his violin concerts. There is very little evidence shown in Star Trek that culture and creativity has progressed at all.

@catmandude1800

6 жыл бұрын

Good point; I can get Picard on Shakespeare, etc., but the lack of "current" music, plays, etc. DID leave me with the impression that the writers had an imagination deficit in some areas.[ Actually, I STILL feel that way; with a whole universe of possibilities out there as a result of the first three spin-offs, what do they do ? Go back to Kirk & Spock or "back in the beginning" storylines.] We actually got a better glimpse of Klingon culture - incl. pop culture- than of Earth culture. We heard their version of opera, Klingon heavy metal [ remember the Voyager doctor's son?], and we saw B'lana Torres reading a trashy Klingon Historical romance novel.

@catprog

8 ай бұрын

I think copyright is the most likely reeason for a lack of new culture in Star Trek.

She was amazing and the most memorable ISN member of staff.

@Minastir1

7 жыл бұрын

I really liked the guy who made the propaganda report on B5. He did what he had to do, but he still managed to slip news about Sheridan's family to him through the report.

The REAL ISN---not that Clark-controlled madness!

@Rgoid

3 жыл бұрын

Too little, too late. Where is the Voice of the Resistance? I’m never watching ISN again!

Storyline was so detailed. Much respect given to viewers and fans who spent hours watching. I personally have rewatched episodes, only to find new things that were made known once you understand the entire story.

So well written, so perfectly acted and still brings tears to my eyes so moving.

Great show B5 was simply brilliant

This show is for the thinking awake.

@seoul_seeker5450

6 жыл бұрын

@Phelan, when I posted the response, there were several posts comparing modern day American politics to Babylon 5's President Clark. Looks like they were thrown down the memory hole through deletion and/or editing.

One of the most moving scenes I've ever had the pleasure to watch.

This part always gives me tingles and I tear up at the point where she repeats the quote from Sheridan 'We are alle sons and daughters of Earth!' Very moving writing.

This is why this production is greater that Star Trek. These characters were like people we knew in our own lives, they had faults, addictions, a truly human quality, Star Trek never had that quality to it.

@zingzangspillip1

4 жыл бұрын

@@saberiandream316 it's okay to have an opinion, right?

@TheEDFLegacy

4 жыл бұрын

Some characters of Star Trek dead. Garak is by far the closest to that level of vulnerability. That being said, I also feel that a large amount of the ensemble cast were amazing in their own right. Both series were remarkable, especially considering that Deep Space Nine was actually a direct rip-off of Babylon 5. I'm glad they resolve their differences while they ran, and actually had cameos between the two series.

@TheEDFLegacy

4 жыл бұрын

@@saberiandream316 You're both right and wrong. They did in fact rip off the series Bible, and made their own thing with it. And the fact that they went their own way is the reason why both series are memorable to this day.

The first indication of loss of a Democracy is restricted Free Press. When become a crime to criticize or question policies of a Government.

@qwax

Жыл бұрын

Yep. That was the first thing Clark went after. Then he installed political officials in every part of Earth GOV and the military. Sounds familiar, just 4 years ago we went through the same thing

This is what makes me think any planned reboot is going to fall flat on its face. Even through no fault of their own, I just don't think there's anyway to catch this kind of work twice.

@voutsider190

2 жыл бұрын

You're right

Such an under-rated TV show. It stood out to me as the first major show to kill off main characters as part of the plot, and not just because an actor quit. The end of season 4 was the best part of the series, as they packed all the events of season 5 in as well, anticipating the show being canceled, which it was. But then another network picked it up for season 5 and there was no plot left. Season 5 was almost as bad as the last season of the original Roseanne. There was a whole lot of standing around with nothing happening.

@kwame31

3 жыл бұрын

He didn't quit, he got sick

@emsleywyatt3400

3 жыл бұрын

They made you feel bad about the "death" of a muppet.

@beta_cygni1950

2 жыл бұрын

The 1st half of season 5 was bad. The telepath storyline didn't work. But the 2nd half of season 5 was good, with the unwitting (and witting) centauris carrying on the shadow's master plan. There was LOTS happening in the season5 2nd half.

this one of the best sci fi shows ever

This scene is always such a gut punch

This show honestly hits home. We literally had our own Clark.

@cya2139

11 ай бұрын

Still got him (if we’re talking about the same person) and have another one likely incoming as well

@danielhaire6677

7 ай бұрын

Hopefully the courts revoke Conman Don's "Teflon" status in the upcoming months.

A message from the future...

@Reoh0z

Жыл бұрын

History teaches us the mistakes we've made in the past. Science Fiction teaches us the mistakes we're about to make.

a heart wrenching performance by Maggie she held emotions of anger loss and journalistical manipulation to deliver a message worth a standing ovation

I met her at a con in Galveston TX. Wonderful person with a huge list of credits.

Shame on Earthforce officers and troops for siding with Clark.

@AbelMcTalisker

6 ай бұрын

Lockley? Some remained loyal out of what they considered their duty despite any misgivings they might have had about the government. The series did cover this in some episodes.

This speech always reminds me of Churchill’s radio address for the surrender of Nazi Germany.

One of the things B5 got so right, is the little moments like this. Most shows wouldn't go to the trouble of bringing back the same actor this way. Maggie Egan spent only a few minutes of her life over 8 episodes of B5 and 2 of Crusade but she left an indelible mark.

There'll be blue birds over the white cliffs of Dover...

Powerful moment. I pray for Americans of the present age to come to have a reconciliatory mindset like hers. Nations can and do heal from civil wars, and the voices of those who suffered greatly but still call for reconciliation are some of the most powerful.

@joshuasitzema9920

9 ай бұрын

The only way the US will be healed is if certain oligarchic powers in our political institutions are removed. Doesn't matter what party they are from, they are driving the country ever closer to civil war.

Im sooo glad i bought the full DVD Boxsets back then.. 20 bucks per season, best 100€ i spend on "movies" ever!

"Our thoughts and prayers" ...... ISN did it first \o/ Joking aside, that scene was awesome.

@timmorris2048

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but they actually meant it and followed up with substantive action.

I far preferred the ghastly chumminess of the regime stooge after the ISN bloke blew the gaff and it was stormed. A masterclass in oleaginous-ness. ;O)

This is the future. We have paper for our news anchor.

@jeffreyo.gustafson7626

4 жыл бұрын

While the show's future tech isn't perfect, paper is ok here. In 2019, SNL and late night talk shows still use cue cards and newscasts on every level & politicians making speeches still have back-up paper scripts all for one simple reason: teleprompters occasionally break. It's also a good directing choice: it gives her something to do with her hands to help convey the flood of complex emotions breaking through, and it gives the 1990s audience a familiar visual touchstone that - as noted above - still exists today.

@pinkyandbrain123

4 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey O. Gustafson i didn’t expect a reply on my comment 🤣 kudos to you good sir ☝🏻

Well done

It stays relevant.

When ISN went black, they were not kidding!

"On both sides"

greatest sci fi drama ever.

Captain Sheridan this is Rear Admiral James T Kirk I'm here at Deep Space 87 STARFLEET is Ready to Help

"heal and move on". I hope Earthgov arrested every single police, military, secret police, that falsely arrested and tortured and killed civilians....every single one!

Certain "news channels" today could follow this for a tip or two on journalistic integrity...

I just can't understand the mentality of those who, after the Earth Civil War, still criticized Sheridan for using military force to kick out Clark; how can they not see that Clark was clearly the bad guy when he turned the defense grid against Earth? How can anyone defend a man like that?

@VoodooV1

5 жыл бұрын

Can you not see the parallels between the conflict in the fictional Earth Civil War and actual non-fictional conflicts and nonfictional civil wars? People don't change their minds easily. People don't admit they were wrong easily. Some people will never admit they're wrong.

@Thatslifebro_

5 жыл бұрын

Its easy to forgive others for beeing wrong while you were right, but having to admit that you are wrong and apologizing is hard under normal circumstances. In this case they looked away from tyranny and opression around them because they felt safe or because they lacked the courage.

@OllamhDrab

4 жыл бұрын

YOu still have to ask, under this administration?

@mnomadvfx

3 жыл бұрын

Look at neo Nazi's still strutting around today after the horrors of WW2 and you have your answer. His crazy gave a voice to theirs and made it feel wanted and justified. The US was foolish to blithely allow what Germany put down with a vengeance the last 3/4 of a century gone.

“We are all Equally sons and daughters of earth” Aliens that died freeing earth: “Wöt?”

@catprog

8 ай бұрын

They only came in late in the war to fight the defense grid. And this message is too the humans not too them.

I'm surprised the set is still intact.

@hagamapama

3 жыл бұрын

Clark repaired it so his goons could use it to spread propaganda.

I do not think they are equalky the sons of of Earth. Those serving in the armed forces under Clarck helped him at least with non-resisting. But I understand what wanted the sentence to communicate. I prefer more direct communication.

The 90s, when the news was important and noble..

1:45 AM Earth Standard Time ... Are time zones no longer a thing in the future?

@jeffreyo.gustafson7626

4 жыл бұрын

Per JMS, Earth Standard Time is just the coordinating time for military, government, and off-Earth activity. Earth still has time zones. jmsnews.com/messages/message?id=9334

@jayebyrd00

4 жыл бұрын

There is the same concept in todays military. "ZULU TIME" is used to coordinate military activities. It uses Greenwich mean time.

@hagamapama

3 жыл бұрын

If I had to guess, it's probably Earthdome time.

"Martial" law.

ISN is back on the news. Now lets hear commentary from these 5 talking heads......

@WardNightstone

3 жыл бұрын

that was 80 years later

Sadly, those who spewed Clark's lies and propaganda would likely get a fair trial before going to prison. Unlike those who were arrested during Clark's reign of terror.

Earth Standard Time- One time zone for the whole planet?

@jeffreyo.gustafson7626

3 жыл бұрын

Per JMS, Earth Standard Time is just the coordinating time for military, government, and off-Earth activity. Earth still has time zones. jmsnews.com/messages/message?id=9334

@ethenallen1388

3 жыл бұрын

It was probably Grenade Mean or Zulu Time.

@hagamapama

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeffreyo.gustafson7626 Earth standard time is probably the time for Earthdome.

@SantomPh

2 жыл бұрын

I guess it's like GMT now

The thing about "Scorched Earth" confused me. Why is he writing this? Did he end up being a keeper too? Or was it just "if I can't have it, nobody can have it"

@mnomadvfx

3 жыл бұрын

The latter. The keepers were for the Centauri as punishment for turning on the former masters of the Drakh.

@matlhthelion382

3 жыл бұрын

@@mnomadvfx Yes the Drakh don't want to take revenge on Sheridan and Human, because of the driving away of their masters?

@Rgoid

3 жыл бұрын

IMO Clark, as far as HE was concerned, would rather see Earth destroyed than under alien control.

@matlhthelion382

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rgoid the argument that I can follow But I can still see the thought of the Drakh's first attempt at revenge on humans ... Maybe more like Durla then? The Drakh have many ways of doing something.

@ethenallen1388

2 жыл бұрын

He may have been telling himself that it was better than letting the aliens take over.

I wish that first part was real

👍

I weep not for the journalist

Maggie Egan, eh? Kinda cute. Have to watch out for her.

*martial law

the ONLY thing that annoys me with this news report: The camera records they show to illustrate the battle are those that were meant for our eyes - the eyes of the audience. They CAN'T have been shot by any in-series camera or anything newsfeed-like. That mistake breaks immersion.

@marsneedstowels

3 жыл бұрын

Why wouldn't ships have cameras on them?

@gajustempus

3 жыл бұрын

@@marsneedstowels on them - maybe freely orbiting them, at speeds and maneuvers equal to a Starfury? Unlikely. Plus I fail to see reason why a ship would carry cameras all over the hull...

@edwardteach3000

3 жыл бұрын

@@gajustempus long range visual detection and tracking (Either directly or indirectly (aka a mysteriously straight and uniform line of stars blinking)? I know space is big, but, there are ways to hide ones heat and radar signatures (and other forms of technological detection too). It is much harder to hide from what amounts to someone (probably an AI of some kind that is looking for above mentioned suspicious patterns) looking out a window with built in zoom and enhance.

@gajustempus

3 жыл бұрын

@@edwardteach3000 if there's one technical rule out there, then this one: If uses ANY kind of energy, it'll radiate said energy as well - be it even ever so low. That's what the Normandy of Mass Effect did right: They used a giant internal storage system to store all the waste heat and energy to disguise themselves from sensors - but that also lasted only a limited amount of time. Such a device requires space - hence it only practical in ships with a minimum size. Tiny drones may use less power, but they lack the space to "cloak" sufficiently.

@edwardteach3000

3 жыл бұрын

@@gajustempus Indeed, but the devices would not have to be too large (especially if you take highly advanced technology into account) about the size of a high quality TV camera). And ships like the Normandy is exactly why you would still want said cameras (would have made the geth station in ME2 much harder to deal with).

Show me the real ISN. No, I said the REAL ISN.

@ethenallen1388

4 жыл бұрын

Weather or not this is the real ISN depends on what you want to believe.

the ppl who carried out clarks orders the commanders generals should be charged. not forgiven

@ConnorLonergan

6 жыл бұрын

So what if I was a commander that took part in a food shipment blockade and the reason I didn’t resist the orders was because I had family on earth that ’was being protected’ by night watch troops. I should face charges

@captrodgers4273

6 жыл бұрын

Connor Lonergan. you should face serious charges. possibly the death penalty for murder of all those poor ppl

@ConnorLonergan

6 жыл бұрын

and this is why your not a judge yah sure my actions killed folks, but it happened under fear and coercion of my family being executed and killed by the Clark regime

@ConnorLonergan

6 жыл бұрын

But as I said it was under coercion not of my own free will there is a complete diffrence

@ConnorLonergan

6 жыл бұрын

Not everyone fully backs the concept on ”needs of the many over the few”

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no longer fakenews lol

I feel we’re in this era now isn under Clark I feel is our media 2021

Somehow, I think I am not the only one to recoil in horror and disgust at the idea that that awful phrase "our thoughts and prayers go out to..." will still be with us in the 24th century!

I'm more cynical about this scene than other fans seem to be. ISN knew where its bread was buttered and gladly shilled for the fascist Clark administration when their bottom line depended on it. Now that Sheridan and his resistance forces won they can pretend like they were on the side of goodness and light all along. Earthgov got rid of Clark but it never learned any lessons about what led to Clark in the first place, evidenced by how quickly they got rid of Sheridan once he liberated Earth for them.

@Nemrai

8 ай бұрын

What do you think they should have done? When one might have had a 'gun to one's head' or everyone were replaced by people loyal to the regime?

@catprog

8 ай бұрын

It is a diffrent ISN. All the people who were on the side of Sheridan were removed from ISN when Clark took over. Then when Clark was removed the people who were removed from ISN came back.

@ringo8410

8 ай бұрын

@@catprog Oh. Makes sense.

@oenrn

5 ай бұрын

I would hardly call troops bombarding the station headquarters as them "gladly shilling".

Very unprofessional anchor right their. Too emotional.

@ethenallen1388

8 күн бұрын

She'd spent the previous year in constant fear for her life. Cut her some slack.

I watched Babylon 5 without fail when it first aired. I remember this particular bit in J. Michael Straczynski's story arc, and I thought, "Once again, a powerful Science Fiction TV series is telling us about ourselves," just like Star Trek did when it first aired in the mid 60s. This particular episode is even more true now, a media that has been totally taken over by leftist thought leaders. Dangerous times, for sure.

@OllamhDrab

4 жыл бұрын

YOu're incorrect about the wing currently hobbling the media and owning the supposed 'President.'

@sminkycorp

4 жыл бұрын

@@OllamhDrab You think that the mainstream media is mostly right wing???!?!? You obviously understand and practice that 'sometimes before you can deal with a problem you have to . . . redefine it'

@OllamhDrab

4 жыл бұрын

@@sminkycorp Well, the problem you just tried to redefine, you redefined by claiming I said something I didn't say. But yes, the Right has *hobbled* the corporate media, as well as via kamikaze appointees, much public media. Cause they're anti-democracy and only focused on short-term profits otherwise.

@sminkycorp

4 жыл бұрын

​@@OllamhDrab By 'hobbled' you obviously mean that smaller media companies and citizen journos are having too much influence and you would like just the corporate media to have a say only. You do know the DEMOS in democracy means PEOPLE right??????

@OllamhDrab

4 жыл бұрын

@@sminkycorp Again with the false claims. It's just they may as well be for normalizing this fascism, corruption, and incompetence, while not actually doing much to inform people who need to know.

she just got out of prison