Gonna reiterate here like Pyro has said, don't go to other creator's videos and shitting on the creator on Pyro's behalf. That's not what Pyro wants you, as a fan, to do. Debate is healthy. Bullying is not.

@endofexistence2149

7 күн бұрын

Yea I'd never do that, it just causes unnecessary drama which the WoW community has enough of already. However this dude really got a lot of things wrong in this video and it was hard to watch.

@thomasschuldt9001

7 күн бұрын

Yet he is literally shitting on bellular here. not hypocritical at all. just because he dosnt agree with pyros takes. small person pyro.

@endofexistence2149

7 күн бұрын

@@thomasschuldt9001 you need to learn to read

@thomasschuldt9001

7 күн бұрын

@@endofexistence2149 i read just fine.

@rs3addict201

5 күн бұрын

He downtalks anybody that disagrees with his POV like hes the only one watching the lore i like pyro and apprieciate his input and passion however im going to have to unsubscribe if he keeps getting hot over nothing atall getting wayy to angry about tiny things he just wants to be the solo lore maker and the only one who gets it right >> hes got plenty wrong remember that first 😉😉 pyro you cool just chill a little dude your vids get a bit cringy when you be like that brother PLEASE CHILL A LITTLE BIT 😢😢 👊 and remember how quicly things can just get ignored/forgotten by blizz weather its been said by a character or not just sayin anyways hope your good pyro were all friends here even other creators ❤😉

love pyro's videos, but dude's been acting like uncomfortably heated whenever responding to people. i totally get that, like completely passionate but remember we're all having fun and theorizing. none of you guys are actually "right" until confirmed in canon. and i actually love a lot of pyro's theories but let's just chill a lil too :)))

@Penumbra20

7 күн бұрын

He does specifically mention late in the video that he doesn't have all the answers and that nobody does, for the record.

@exaqtian

7 күн бұрын

@mandamelli3178 I agree i also love pyros videos and speculation which is why when i see this smart aleck sort of talking down attitude its really disapointing and hard to watch... Chat reinforces it aswell even got mad at bellulars "tone" at one point, can you believe it.

@pomsou1405

7 күн бұрын

same, loved his content but the dude gets super heated when someone else doesn't agree with him or his pov, and you can see at 13:30.... like dude chill

@TheWindcrow

7 күн бұрын

​@pomsou1405 they all do this. They are very narcissistic. Teliesin and alconon do it soooo much. Calling people idiots. It's crazy how comfortable they get in it.

@snowterran

7 күн бұрын

When someone is just factually wrong about a topic you know a lot about it makes sense to get upset

Pyro I believe that the cosmic origins stories existed before chronicles on the Warcraft website. Chronicles just made it an official book and took it off the web page.

@Pyromancer

7 күн бұрын

I am not aware of these. Is it something that could be verified or linked or is it something that was removed?

@jacobscott1854

7 күн бұрын

​@@Pyromancer That I'm not sure of, but I vividly remember reading the cosmic origins during BC/wrath time online on the website.

@TheOriginalCameron

7 күн бұрын

The story of the Embrace was indeed a thing, but the Chronicles entries are different than the originals of the stories.

@fathelos

7 күн бұрын

@@Pyromancer I also remember reading them on the old website, but can't find them now. I think they were called Warcraft Universe or something like that.

@CaptainFartastic

7 күн бұрын

You can find em in the web archive wayback machine. I just checked and there are snaps from 2016

Jesus Pyro, tell us how you really feel...

We're gonna get a Scooby doo type villain reveal at the end, mark my words.

Azeroth- Azatoth it is incredibly obvious, I think Azeroth is the reason everything exists, She dreams the entire realities, universes etc.

@preds43

6 күн бұрын

Funny you say this, considering Azathoth dreaming everything isn't even true lmaooo

When Time Rifts came out and the one where Soridormi starts talking about the one where the Titans "win" and then tells you that Life is running rampant everywhere... Never sound like much of a Titan win to me.

This was kinda bad Pyro. Yea, I am talking about your reaction. As someone who started following you in the FF14 era, all this sarcasm, anger and, honestly, pedantic posture with correction of details. It kinda feels like what I heard of you before starting following and something I assumed you were happy to leave in the past.

@mandamelli3178

7 күн бұрын

The over correction with like the EXACT wording was too much

@Penumbra20

7 күн бұрын

This is the frustrating thing. Pyro has grown and improved a ton as a person and content creator, learned how to keep his emotions in check, but at a baseline level, every single human being is allowed to express a diverse array of emotions, and that includes anger and frustration. The anger/frustration he displays here is equal to the anger/frustration you can find with ANY content creator on ANY topic, but because he has a history of anger issues people will conflate it as his previous issues 'flaring up' or whatever. That's not what's happening here. He's allowed to be upset or frustrated when he feels something he cares about greatly is misrepresented. The true struggle isn't denying yourself anger - it's knowing when to control it, reign it in, and step back from it.

@primal4887

7 күн бұрын

Nothing wrong with a confident "No" and showing us the proof behind why he's saying that. Hardly an over-correction if it was true. I think people read too far into his emotions because of his past, and, as penumbra said, pin it on that... Instead of his passion and knowledge of what he DOES know is true.

@tandemelephant5272

6 күн бұрын

@@Penumbra20 i dont follow him and only wached like 4 of his vids in the last couple days and imho the dude is super annoying, with all the pedantic nit-picking and anger and arrogance....just as Vkara said. Meanwhile just look at chat, are they afraid pyro will ban/wont like them if they dont fiercly agree with him, no matter what...? in 1 of the other vids i saw he didnt realize something at first instance, chat corrected him and he became super annoyed, like a 5yo who didnt get the 20th candy from mommy....seems like an obvious jerk to me, and that, my man, has 0 things to do with his past. i like his lore theories n stuff but tbh its just not worth it if i have to listen to this level of pompous overconfidence

@CarlosSchroevers-ym4ce

3 күн бұрын

I got the same vibe, i usually dont respond strongly to video's but i literally yelled out, U SMUG FUCK multiple times during this video. I used to love pyro, long time ago.. but i stopped watching him. i tuned back in with this video and honestly now i remember why.

whats the problem he has with bellular?

@Twin512bass

Күн бұрын

Bellular is better at telling us the lore. If that's not it, then IDK what I just watched.

@1Forn61

18 сағат бұрын

none it aint that deep.

35:40 The Devs said the glowing blue water was just a natural thing which happens in real life too from Algae. Fairly certain they were asked about it in a Q&A so should be a video of it. Now whether or not that was the truth.. Who knows.

Pyro, the only titan that is probably “aspected towards order” is Norgannon, the same guy who, even you have said, is behind the titan’s scheme. Which would make sense if he is the one trying to order everything with his constellar army who seem to be behind a lot of the titan constructs like the Mogu stuff, a portion of Ulduar, and Uldamun. So perhaps Norgannon himself is “using” or “controlling” the titan pantheon to promote his own order propaganda. Keeping Aman’thul as the center puppet the same way The Primus used Zovaal as his puppet and even real world leaders are seen as “puppets to the masters in the shadows” or whatever the conspiracy is.

I don’t understand why is pyro so pissed about these details … if you don’t like bells vids just make your videos with all these details ..don’t just react to it and make him looks stupid because he doesn’t know every single specific word

12:00 the moves are used in the "weekly play" the night fay would have in the rotation. The argus fight but lite mode.

2:48 Yeah, that was correct. Majority thought this. Not because of factual information but simply because that was the only thing people could think of.

Why is he so cynical and sarcastic in this reaction? I'm kinda confused

I think this underlines that the community would really benefit summary / overview videos like this.

I believe Blizzard themselves hinted that they are retconning most of what happened in Shadowlands because it conflicts with the lore that Chris Metzen has envisioned. That's why Bellular said that Shadowlands lore doesn't matter going forward

I think the SL lore digs, are because the video is aimed to help new comers or those who bounced from SL. It's not a video to get bogged into nitty gritty it's overview to help enjoy going forward. And in that it's a good video.

I love the parallels between Norgannon being the mastermind instead of Aman'thul just like the Primus being the mastermind over the Jailer

What happens to Azeroth will also happen to its denizens. If Xal'athat turns the world soul void, will the denizens become void? In one of the cinematics, she says that in the end, she will have our fury.

Always practice humility! Even when we think we know everything, there's still the chance that we're wrong

Pyro seems slightly frustrated and upset with bells analyzation.

@mandamelli3178

7 күн бұрын

same vibe. i usually love pyro's vids especially reactions but this seems so... like genuinely angry, and i don't know it feels icky.

@kylesmith564

7 күн бұрын

@@mandamelli3178it’s fair tho because most lore people on wow these days just spit the words of lore back at their audience word for word without any thought to context, if the source of said lore is 100% truthful and unbiased etc. But yea he never seems to be enjoying himself watching other people’s lore vids, or even doing his own speculation whenever chat is asking silly questions. I’ll miss those long form vids 😢

@exaqtian

7 күн бұрын

@@kylesmith564 Make excuses if you like we've all known people like this, the character trope of the smart aleck know it all is well documented and they have never been liked and their information has never reached more ears than the words of someone who just acts normal. Its like taking a dump on your own doorstep. Such amazing information to tell but way to abrasive for the larger audience that someone like bellular has pulled.

@utherlightbringer3868

7 күн бұрын

@@kylesmith564 theres nothing silly, lore that bellular talks about existed before pyro played wow pyro is wrong

@dejavureal

7 күн бұрын

@@kylesmith564 he's watched plenty of lore vids in the last few months that he really enjoyed, what are you talking about? are we just ignoring the Xaxxas videos? Obviously this reaction was pretty negative, and there's good reason for that, Bellular was *very* dismissive about Shadowlands which still has relevant concepts as-of Dragonflight, which is what Pyro has been delving into since coming back to the game with his lore theories. Are we going to pretend it doesn't suck to see a peer disagree with you over something so simple as "expansion le bad"? Where does that end? Do we dismiss WoD cause that expansion was a bad experience with unpopular lore concepts? It's ridiculous.

What if the planets tha Sargeras split in half was Argus. So Sargeras killed death, and thanks to that titans can be immortals. But thanks to dreadlords he was reawakened. And in this time Xal'atath came into play too. So whaf if she was waiting for the death titan to be awakened so she can get Azeroth to void side and finaly destroy titans ?

It's wild to think that Alexstrasza is such a puppet, and also has led to the deaths of so many great (read:powerful) dragons with what is either naivety or willful ignorance. I didn't play the raids in Cataclysm so I didn't see it, but that line she says to Deathwing about ending Malygos and now she'll end him it's like.. WOAH. She just has no problem killing other dragons. Life-Binder indeed.

@Marsonis2ya

7 күн бұрын

1) She did have a problem killing the other dragons. It was a last resort killing Malygos and even Deathwing (other aspects pleaded with him many times when he was Neltharion) not the first option. 2) Why would it be crazy they believe in the Titans? They are empowered by them back when they were young and impressionable proto drakes. Not to mention, the representative of the Pantheon they had the most interaction with is Tyr. Who is selfless and heroic and told them nothing but good things about the Pantheon.

@Trokthar

7 күн бұрын

@@Marsonis2ya your point is fairly made with regard to blind faith in the Titans due to past dealings and interactions. I guess the results of that outlook are only apparent to us who can see the big picture from outside the game world but if one was in her shoes one might believe the same as she does. Thanks for the reply.

I always thought it interesting how Kalec has blue eyes in his human form, but arcane purple/pink in his dragonform.

If you ask me with everything that i know and speculate Azeroth is blue child..a small baby dragon humanoid like dractyr.

But is death final or eternal? Shadowlands kind of proved otherwise...

Oafstone

I love how Pyro can't take other peoples ideas open minded, so when something happens in Last Titan that he deosn't like (like Amanthul actually being the enemy) he's gonna lose it and say like that the writers are bad

@konekopon2865

6 күн бұрын

kinda like how the same exact thing happened the other way around with chronicle?

I take it from the snarky comments, Pyro has beef with Bellular?

Worldkiller Iris Item Level 233 Binds when picked up Neck +119 Stamina +71 Critical Strike (0.39% @ L70) +71 Haste (0.42% @ L70) +71 Mastery (0.39% @ L70) Requires Level 60 "A living symbol of despair, borne by the nemesis of a doomed eternity. The fate of Azeroth will be shared by all her children."

@7:40 So the titan respawn points were intentional or not? First it’s implied it was a back up plan but then it was a pre planned message?

@Pyromancer

7 күн бұрын

To me it seems like an intentional loss that they had prepared for.

Who are the two bright lights of Azeroth? Anduin and Thrall?

I don't think the titans has been honest with their intentions at all, but I also think that it was indeed Sargeras that enslaved Argus. I just think that's more likely. I mean, it's entirely possible that the titans visited there to try and stop what was happening, was ambushed or any manner of things, but that doesn't exclude them having motives we don't know about, and all of those feel more likely than a master plan to get captured and that that would lead to anything but their demise. I like the idea that Argus would be connected to Zovaal, but it's hard to say given writing at the time - cool connection to make for future writing regardless if they use it.

when will people realise the titan pantheon is not a group of entities of the same origin, but rather a group of entities who share the same agenda? at least they used to at some point, but they no longer do :).

With what we know about the First Ones from Shadowlands, that they were using in someway all the forces, because Azeroth had so many invasions from many cosmological forces, it is clear as day that she will be a First One. But for the thing to have science and all that, it should be explained, clearly the relationship between First Ones, Titans, Eternal Ones. If they'll pull the rabbit out of the magic hat without explaining a damn thing, "look she is ... Blabla because we said so and you don't have to question it", it will be a big mess. For the story to move forward, it really needs for some big mysteries of the entire universe being explained. If you pull mysteries upon mysteries upon mysteries without explaining them you will have the stupid explanation from J J Abrams about doing movies with mystery boxes upon mystery boxes about mystery boxes, a stupid explanation of doing movies and there are countless series by J J Abrams that started with good ideas and he couldn't end them on the same high note, he ended them badly even with rehashed ideas from other creators...

Thinking about it now, the whole "what you're aspected to is where you go" is throw off by Ardenweld - so much there obviously obviously aspected to life/nature but still ends up in the death realm? The one caveat here is if Ardenweld is "special" and unlike the rest of the shadowlands. Which now sounds a lot like a Shadowlands alternative fiction/prediction video...

About the "fallen souls" from the story. A theory I got about it is that it's NOT fallen as in a person slain in a battle but I'll use the word that I've seen used within the WoW lexology in another place and that is the word "depraved" which means "morally corrupt." I refence what Xal'atath said (non-verbatim) "they're our lost brethren" (Pyromancer will likely respond with her correct comment... LOL). But the "fallen souls" is maybe connected to her "lost brethren" comment, especially if you factor in the words from Chris Metzen at the announcement where he suggested of The Last Titan "that we'd find out what way they lied" (also not verbatim). Before reading the following, it's all head cannon and just my potential interpretation of the World Soul Saga and I've done the SAME as Pyromancer and wanted to go into all three of the stories BLIND so it's just new stuff to discover... (there are NO spoilers below!!!) So, I'll revisit a theory I had come up with when I visited the Agthia's Repose (past version) which is the only relevant bit I would argue (opposite what Bellular claimed). In context between this place and the place tainted with Light in Revendreth, then the ancient war that's referenced in Maldraxxus AND the fact that until the Winter Queen arrived in Ardenweald... well, let me say again that they're ALL part of the same thing. Yep, now even think that Algalon's "million million lives wasted" has a connection. Before you dismiss me here, HOW do you feed a perpetual war that's waging (the one in Maldraxxus that was so terrible that even the Welsh tree people from Ardenweald got involved - east of the Arena you see the stumps of dead ones!) and in fact through the Night Warrior Elune had told us the answer... you waste million million lives to feed it. The further presence of "other Night Warriors" proves this war had been going on long, and likely ONLY ended when essentially a super weapon got slammed into Shadowlands (and likely every other resting place for souls). I've actually always regarded the Titans as some sort of rebels who overthrew some other higher being or beings and I've believed this since TBC mostly because of certain things Sargeras said about stuff (in the written lore). One thing that puzzled me back then was the idea that someone would have his eyes burned out against his will. Then I read the Illidan book and then later the whole thing with Xe'ra happened and Illidan willingly stays on the throne? I think he willingly sacrificed his eyesight for "seeing the truth" and what if his spectral sight is not a way to see demons but the search out the "morally corrupt" ... yes, maybe the others were taught to hunt demons, but Illidan had to hide until that last moment when he states "At last..." that he knew the truth about the morally corrupt. The beings that were fallen souls. I can imagine him going all spectral sight the moment that Sargeras sits and if I'm even remotely correct by the following, then Sargeras was FINALLY "Ordered" as all the fallen souls would overwhelm him, and then ordered him to the blue dude we see in the image of the Titans. Yeah, Xal'atath isn't the only one who went looking for a new body. The fallen souls went as far as taking the bodies of the other REAL Titans that they'd slain. The only still-living Titan was reshaped to do their bidding until he was able to break free. If true, the only of the fallen souls not to be entirely successful with changing the real Titan's body to a new form was Eonar. Yep, they're the real warmongers of the cosmos, destroying everything in their path then remaking it to PRETEND to the mortals they create that they're gods. Maybe Elune was one of them and found the truth, and escaped with her sister and they set out to FIX what got broken. Secretly also finding both mortal and immortal allies to help them. The most unexpected ally they found was a being still being ordered against her will by the fallen souls so they hatch a plan to get her seemingly "corrupted" to trick the fallen souls (Ahmantul etc in case you didn't guess it by now) to "cleanse her" thus getting them to install the methods that could allow them to replenish this world with souls they'd send there from Shadowlands. The whole tree thing was another ploy by the way to make the fallen souls THINK they'd won, and so the final plan started to put into place. Another hidden ally from when the fallen souls had waged war against the Old Gods was released from her slumber (knife!) and yeah, maybe she's gone mad, or is corrupt, or whatever, but she's certainly going to help in the final phase of the plan... to get the LAST TITAN to be in control. Who is he? The one who showed the mortal Illidan the whole truth in the first place... I guess you're now laughing a lot. Right? Good. That means I merrily entertained you. BUT mark my words. The people we call TITANS are falsely using that as a name, and just like a soul is housed in a mortal's body, they've already been shown at least ONCE to have reused bodies to hide from the First Ones and others... Until we're in the last mega-battle against the final bosses of the third World Soul Saga chapter we won't know who was the first titan, who was the last one, who was a real titan and who was just pretending. For all we know the night elf who showed us the Gem of Elune and then so mysteriously got removed by Blizzard was in fact Azeroth manifesting herself to us, and the gem she was showing us was her way to communicate with Elune and the Winter Queen... her two sisters. Maybe we'll find out they're the real rulers of all the cosmos...

Pyro sounding bitter these days man. You can correct people without berating them at every turn. Be better bro we all here for your knowledge but keeping the tone friendlier makes for a better viewing experience. Also consider bellular is a also a pillar of wow content creation which is good for the community and the game in general.

Pyro: gets butthurt when people gate keep Warcraft 3 Pyro the second Bellular doesn’t include every scrap of lore about every single point: 🤬😡🤬😡🤬

@dejavureal

7 күн бұрын

its one thing to leave out details for simplicity's sake, its another thing to just completely outright say false or unverified things, cruxing an argument over dialogue that isn't in the game

@utherlightbringer3868

7 күн бұрын

@@dejavureal nothing is false these things existed before he even played wow as ppl said in other comment

@justinb7494

7 күн бұрын

@@dejavureal "Say false or unverified things" so like Pyro?

@youngcracker9517

Күн бұрын

@@dejavurealbro u need to get a grip. I like pyros videos but this reaction is exactly why no other content creator collaborates with him and why he isn’t bigger than he is rn. U probably have 0 friends as well

I heard about the void attempting to corrupt the world soul before Chronicle Vol.1 came out. I read about it on WowWiki years before 2016.

Random thought - have we considered that that Azshara's story so far, is a fractal - for Azeroth?

@dododog5002

7 күн бұрын

Yes in one of his recent streams

Azeroth is the mother of the Titans...

@ChinnuWoW

7 күн бұрын

Wtf? But she’s still a seedling.

I'm watching this just so I can see Pyro's face change from content to sudden and complete disgust

Shadowlands introduced the concept of The First Ones and that Azeroth could be one.

I think I unsubcribed from his channel in Jan this year or maybe it was December lol.

I’m not going to lie, I have an issue watching Bel and Tali anymore. They both skip over some of the finer details to push their narrative. Figure heads who don’t really much play the game as much as they once did, and are not particularly knowledgeable on the lore aspect of the game. I feel they are more akin to real life dread lords, spreading false truths. Having said all that. I’m glad you don’t care about calling it out.

"Your coming was foretold in the rings. The long circle is nearly complete." - Il'gynoth in the EN Raid. The heck do you think that means with new information?

The last Titan will be 90% sargeras. Azeroth isnt a Titan.

We dont have friends if the universe of warcraft, even our own world is our enemy. As Sargeras furk around and find out when he looked into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into him.

Don't change Pyro, your content is quality and please keep doing what your doing. I think its incredible that you're so supportive of what Shadowlands tried to be and everyone else seems to keep shitting on the entire expansion. Keep up the great content and so glad you're back.

Ahhh, Pyro, you are our beloved Alex Jones of Warcraft Lore.

I would say pyro's reaction in the video is completely justified. the sort of aloof way in which bell goes over the lore, poking fun at the story and regurgitating heckin epic reddit memes while not really fully understanding the lore himself, is very frustrating

I really hate people discounting shadowlands lore just because the delivery was bad. It kind dumb to me because those same people will them bringing up SL related lore facts to prove a point in the future story. SL is teeming with some interesting story beats and if people would just go back and give it a second run through they would change their mentality. But bellular and a lot of content creators just follow the crowd and its popular to hate on shadowlands right now, you know gotta sit with the cool kids at school type of crap.

I think Xalatath is either Elune or that planet that Sargeras chopped in half. Or maybe both

Obssessed!!

ya never heard the Titan thing b 4 & beck then as now I was runnning all classes as dps threw LFR. I just figured the line was just another l33t M only nonsense. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Somehow I'm always thinking titans are just like keepers but they just somehow get access to azeroth power and that's why they are like powerful. Ofc they was powerful when they was keepers. First ones wanted titans to be keepers only

Finally, I watched bellulars vid the other day and knew it was full of inaccurate points. was waiting for someone like pyro to watch and point them out

I see a lot of people making comments on Pyros behavior, saying he's knit picking certain things, but I've also seen a lot of things now being published from Bellular as cannon with very little to no knowledge on the topics. I'm not just talking lore, I'm talking raids, M+, PvP, Delves etc. It's like he does a very basic google search and goes off the first thing he tends to find. If he's going to have this much sway and input into WoW content and it's future I think the people at least deserve accurate information.

Yo!!!

Bellular is a fountain of words. His lore videos are even not that bad, compared to his "news"

OOof, Mike. That is rough.

Do people really watch bellular theory videos? I mean he's a good KZreadr i do watch his video but on theory side he's not that great

Bellular has become so full of it nowadays that he has no respect of the lore of a game he says he loves.

Dude i have tried watching Belular even on other topics many many times and hes just unbearable. I cant even point out what puts me off about this guy, he just annoys me.

@tylermcnally8232

7 күн бұрын

It's obvious he's lost his passion for this game and now it just annoys him and he's not good at hiding it. He doesnt want to do it anymore but is forced to for the income.

Azeroth Is actualy THE "Blue Child" Drachtyr baby dragon and the earths crust Is a shell. Even our real planet is called by some Blue Planet... How cant anyone see this...

I'm sorry to all the complainers in the comments but Pyro's points make 10 times more sense than Bellular's so it's understandable for him to be upset.

He’s always been full of his own words. Whispers of his content as being “click bait” is all over the community.

@Pyromancer

7 күн бұрын

We all make clickbait now and again.

@xXGeko1Xx

7 күн бұрын

@@Pyromancer agreed

Couldn't stand the theatrical Bellular SL hate opinions. Even during shadowlands, I couldn't stand all the loud negativity in content creators. (wished they'd just stop the hate speech and move on to something else, made me unsub from all of those) Hate speech is just a tool for propaganda, not something a good reliable journalist would do.

I can appreciate the work behind Bellulars vids but personally I cant handle his tone when it comes to topics he clearly isnt fond of. Every time something comes up about Shadowlands, Sylvanas etc he always takes up this mocking tone that I just dont like hearing.

Maybe Bellular should just do news and not lore.. Kinda just making stuff up at points. That said, I know he put effort into this. His overall synopsis of the narrative isnt grossly misinformed, just has several.. large.. blind spots. I think pyro should do more focused lore videos, kinda like the new warriors witbin series, simply as a counterpoint to these mainstream readings of the lore.

Azeroth is the main villain. The final boss. It's obvious, especially when considering where the name Azeroth comes from. We have no real recollection on how long the Black Empire existed on Azeroth. How long the old gods had to corrupt the world soul before the titans arrived. And that leads down another rabbit hole for why the titan facilities are really here.

Ugh this was pain. The shitting on SL especially killed me. Like yeah, there was stuff that was badly executed, but gdi. There was a lot of interesting, and pertinent info in it. I hope people who watched the original vid, come here and watch this.

Doesn’t Bellular develop “The Pale Beyond” game, (like his studio) seems like he bashes WoW after starting that development

@dejavureal

7 күн бұрын

He bashes WoW whenever its popular to bash it, his Clips channel is chock full of negative live takes about new stuff that gets revealed or added, while the main channel is almost always hunky-dory positive vibes positive content like prospective lore videos or update guides

This is why Pyro is my main lore source for WoW. And by main, I mostly mean only as well. Loremasters are better when they're humble; they tend to know a lot more as a result. I dislike how matter of fact Bellular presents his lore videos when it's clear he's not even in the same league as you, Pyro. Tbh it's the same reason I don't like Vaati much when it comes to Souls. Keep being the best!

@justinb7494

7 күн бұрын

But a guy who acts like his theories are facts is a good substitute?

@codidote3110

7 күн бұрын

Are we watching the same person?

@zaan364

7 күн бұрын

what justin said .. speculation is awesome but pyro thinking his speculation is fact and fans lapping tht up is insane ... all of the loremasters speculate nobody actually knows shit its good to watch multiple than to cling to one imo

@mandamelli3178

7 күн бұрын

@@zaan364 he's been acting lately like people are stupid if they don't believe the same as him or idk it has some toxic vibes lately. like bro we're all theorizing here!

@crazymat69

7 күн бұрын

I don't think you know what the word humble means if your calling pyro humble lol

Pyro-"gatekeeps the lore and has tantrums about fractals and has only just played WC3 and now thinks Shadowlands was good actually"-mancer

Bellular is a clown 🤡