AWD Conversion Kit: Should I build Them?

www.citizenperformance.com/ Front Motor Kits are now available for Pre-Order! I have assembled all the components necessary to build plug-n-play Front Hub Motor Kits. These will be for 26x4 fat tires bikes with 135mm dropouts. RST Guide forks or Steel forks are needed.
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Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro & Background
3:01 - Front Hub Motor
4:35 - Controller
5:47 - Battery Pack
6:54 - Wiring
8:06 - Display & How it Functions
10:39 - Brake Cutoffs
12:00 - Front Motor Hill Climb
13:07 - Dual Motor Hill Climb
13:50 - Acceleration Tests
14:54 - Long Hill Climb
15:51 - Top Speed & Accelerations
17:07 - Forks are essential
18:21 - Want one?

Пікірлер: 582

  • @TheTcat1000
    @TheTcat10004 ай бұрын

    I got to say a lot of guys are out there, throwing giant batteries, super high-powered motors, but yours seems to be the most functional, the cleanest in the safest job. Well done.

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    thank you for that!

  • @jasonmanitsas2770

    @jasonmanitsas2770

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes as soon as i get the 2024 wired freedom. Will it come with the correct forks on the stock wired Freedom?

  • @quantumfx2677

    @quantumfx2677

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@jasonmanitsas2770No, You are getting a better bike and cheaper with the new E cells. I would research before getting the Wired. Especially now they can't provide proof of them being UL certified.

  • @quantumfx2677

    @quantumfx2677

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@jasonmanitsas2770I would check out the new release of the E-Cells release before getting a Wired. They did so many improvements over wired and it's cheaper, service is excellent. Even there paint job! They even water proofed the controller! Wired is now having problems providing the proof they are UL certified and it's not going to well for them. Honesty has to be number 1 when you are doing business with people! It will make you or break you. Always research a bit so you can make the best decision for yourself.

  • @quantumfx2677

    @quantumfx2677

    3 ай бұрын

    ​​​@@jasonmanitsas2770 I would check out the new E-Cells release before getting a Wired. They did so many improvements over wired and it's cheaper, service is excellent. Even there paint job! They even water proofed the controller! Wired is now having problems providing the proof they are UL certified and it's not going to well for them. Honesty has to be number 1 when you are doing business with people! It will make you or break you. Always research a bit so you can make the best decision for yourself.

  • @anthonysuarez7416
    @anthonysuarez74164 ай бұрын

    Good video. Awesome build. I rode a friend's Wired Freedom last week and decided if cops start caring about my super fast ebikes in Vegas or San Francisco, I am totally getting one. It's a big time sleeper bike & an AWD kit like yours would be the 2nd upgrade I do (after a tire upgrade).

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    thanks for the comment!

  • @djcharlie163
    @djcharlie1634 ай бұрын

    i have been talking about that upgrade for over a year, YES I WANT ONE i would purchase one!!!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    hahaha okay, thank you for responding. if the interest is there, i will put up a site to take pre-orders very soon

  • @user-em6co3tz6i
    @user-em6co3tz6i4 ай бұрын

    Yes I would love one I would buy it right away so please make a kit

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    Okay thank you for responding!!

  • @wendypiluk7210

    @wendypiluk7210

    4 ай бұрын

    @@CitizenCycle925 would like his phone number to call him do you know it

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @garybourke468
    @garybourke4684 ай бұрын

    Definitely ! Set up a kit & sell them to us. Regular viewer. Thanks.

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    Okay, thanks for the input. Getting a read on the interest and may set up a site to take pre-orders soon :)

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Hi Gary, Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @IMBruceECLECTIC
    @IMBruceECLECTIC4 ай бұрын

    That is outstanding! Kit....Great idea...Great concept.....I think you will a lot of people who would do this....

  • @leeconnerlconner4008
    @leeconnerlconner40084 ай бұрын

    I’m interested too. Especially if you can keep it around $800

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    okay, thank you for your response, will keep it as low as possible.

  • @donwilliams815
    @donwilliams8152 ай бұрын

    Yes - definitely interested. Will keep an eye on your videos to hear more.

  • @frankroach9346
    @frankroach93464 ай бұрын

    I built my first dual monitor in 2019 during the pandemic 1000 watt motor and a 1500 watt motor for the rear but I didn’t have the display I had a Violimart throttle I like your build it looks clean 👍

  • @jeremyporter1991
    @jeremyporter19914 ай бұрын

    I really like this set up. Well thought out.👍

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    Thank you, its not for everyone but i think it works well.

  • @IMBruceECLECTIC
    @IMBruceECLECTIC4 ай бұрын

    Outstanding build...outstanding video!!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    thank you!

  • @billylehoux2743
    @billylehoux2743Ай бұрын

    The only thing I can say is... INCREDIBLE !!!

  • @user-uv6uf8li9y
    @user-uv6uf8li9y4 ай бұрын

    Absolutely put a kit together like that it’s already in outstanding Bike and now you just made it 10 times better please put that kit together I’ll purchase one guaranteed

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    okay great to hear! thanks!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    HI Josh, Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @edwardharpe4975
    @edwardharpe49754 ай бұрын

    Do the KIT!!! With or without battery is a great option! Can’t wait to see happen!! Power to ya!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    thank you for the comment and vote of confidence!

  • @blackstoneriverworkshop7167
    @blackstoneriverworkshop71674 ай бұрын

    I wanted to do something like this with my Vtuvia Antelope- turns out it was possible but it would be about 6 months of learning and execution, good job. Lacing the motor into the rim was where I checked out of my project- It's great you routed around that task

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    exactly, i wanted to make it plug and play easy for folks just like you!! (and me)

  • @blackstoneriverworkshop7167

    @blackstoneriverworkshop7167

    4 ай бұрын

    @@CitizenCycle925 Have you tested the rough range of your kit? Like how many miles can you ride on fairly level ground

  • @stevekendall3237
    @stevekendall32374 ай бұрын

    I have a 24 wired cruiser and I would definitely be interested in an all in one box, plug and play kit at the mentioned price point (or less) for sure!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    great to hear thank you!

  • @blackstoneriverworkshop7167

    @blackstoneriverworkshop7167

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I might well buy a cruiser for this kit if applicable

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @mickster1780
    @mickster17804 ай бұрын

    awesome! you've built quite the funmobile 😎

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    oh yes, very fun!

  • @stevebickett7614
    @stevebickett76143 ай бұрын

    Sounds like a good solution to range anxiety and for the big hills we have out west, looking to order a wired freedom in the next few months Perfect Timing for the kit!

  • @alphonsotate2982
    @alphonsotate29824 ай бұрын

    Nice clean build like my all wheel drive Ariel Rider X

  • @skylerw9817
    @skylerw98174 ай бұрын

    Definitely would buy one, for sure!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    awesome!! thank you for the feedback, it's looking more and more likely i will do this!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    HI Skyler, Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @billporter1137
    @billporter11373 ай бұрын

    Well done brother!!! I love how it is plug and play!! I will definitely be ordering one!💪🏼

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Fantastic!

  • @AndrewCarpenter-qz1wz
    @AndrewCarpenter-qz1wzАй бұрын

    My bike will be here in 2 weeks. Already want to add the front motor upgrade. Great job.

  • @BKJr1225
    @BKJr12254 ай бұрын

    I'd love to buy a kit from you! Your work is awesome!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    awesome, than you for the feedback. interest has been good, this may just happen!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    HI Bryan, Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @user-jj5us1nb7h
    @user-jj5us1nb7h4 ай бұрын

    Definitely interested!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    awesome! thanks for letting me know, seems to be some good interest in this kit!

  • @leonardomohammed5318
    @leonardomohammed53184 ай бұрын

    I have been screaming "Yes" at my screen for a while now dude yesssssss

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    hahaha okay okay, if the interest is there i will put up a site for pre-orders

  • @leonardomohammed5318

    @leonardomohammed5318

    4 ай бұрын

    @@CitizenCycle925 initially I have been debating between 3 bikes I live and work in rural areas doing medical aid across my country Been looking at the Fabulous Shadow Step, Wired Freedom 2024 and the Wallkie H9 the Wallkie H9 shows the most hill clming ease till this wired freedom mod now I am back to being unsure which bike to go with

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Hey Leonard, Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @sgtchitt1
    @sgtchitt14 ай бұрын

    fantastic video and job. i think you are underselling your price , which iam sure people will appreciate it, but you need to add in your knowledge and time spent developing this. right before you said the price i was thinking around 1500 to 1800 for the kit, when you said 800 i almost spit out my drink, my wife in the other room ask me if i was okay, lol. i would be ordering this kit the second you put it on the market, only thing i could think of , and iam sure you already planned on doing, is a video of the installation step by step, to make it easier on the installer, aka ( me ) . thank you for your videos and time spent on developing this amazing addition to the wired freedom. be safe and take care. much respect to you.

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the input!! you make some great points but i also want the price to make it very attainable for folks. And yes of course I would do a step by step install video on various bikes. :)

  • @amaze2708
    @amaze27083 ай бұрын

    I just ordered a wired freedom. It’ll be my first e-bike. I cannot wait. It says late may delivery, hoping that’s just a tell-em-late-surprise-them-early date. Either way I already know I want this upgrade. Awesome build, love the thoughtful design choices.

  • @brianhaack8710
    @brianhaack87104 ай бұрын

    Love this !

  • @user-jwpkh1914
    @user-jwpkh19144 ай бұрын

    I'm in! I 'm definitely interested in this Front wheel Kit

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    Awesome!

  • @Campfussell
    @Campfussell4 ай бұрын

    Looking forward to the head to head with the Citizen bike!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    will be a close one!

  • @patricke5662
    @patricke56622 ай бұрын

    absolutely interested

  • @user-nz2rx3yt3c
    @user-nz2rx3yt3c4 ай бұрын

    yes please put AWD conversion kit together ill buy one for sure I think it will be great 1000 watt would even be goooder. Thank you for your show I dig it.

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    thank you for the input, i am moving it forward :)

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @user-sv7yd8zc9d
    @user-sv7yd8zc9d4 ай бұрын

    Love what you doing you can count me in!!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    awesome, thanks for commenting.

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @Trailtested
    @Trailtested4 ай бұрын

    Absolutely your on To a really good kit here and built by a rider

  • @WyomingRider
    @WyomingRider4 ай бұрын

    I think it's a great idea! I think people would buy it!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    thank you for the input! :)

  • @user-se5sw4ci5u
    @user-se5sw4ci5u4 ай бұрын

    Yes I want the kit well done

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    awesome! will keep you posted!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @D-LectricRider
    @D-LectricRider4 ай бұрын

    You should definitely sell these kits. You can put me down for one. Maybe adding a little black box to cover the controller would be nice.

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    thanks for the input, i will have to look into controller boxes..

  • @marklavoy3113
    @marklavoy31134 ай бұрын

    Yes Im interested !

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    okay, thank you !

  • @DanielLopes-jt8yl
    @DanielLopes-jt8yl4 ай бұрын

    Definitely a cost saver kit. It’s a pain in the butt going the other way. I bought the Bolton Bikes (Area 13) kit and that saved bucks putting it in my Rad Mini 2018. May add to that with this but putting bucks into a new fork for my Hyper Scorpion.

  • @KayWesDM
    @KayWesDM4 ай бұрын

    Excellent kit!! Sign me up 👍

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    excellent! thank you for responding!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    HI Kay, Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @hanschristeler2392
    @hanschristeler23924 ай бұрын

    Yes absolutely!!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    alrighty!! great to hear!

  • @ericberg7364
    @ericberg73644 ай бұрын

    A hundred thumbs up 👍 awesome.

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    Wow thanks!

  • @rjattorney3677
    @rjattorney36774 ай бұрын

    Yes, for sure!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    okay, the interest in this kit is looking good!

  • @stevenpierce8401
    @stevenpierce84014 ай бұрын

    I’ve got a 2024 Wired Freedom.I’m in. You build it - I’ll buy it.

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    fantastic! thank you for the vote!!

  • @jimmyjames8736
    @jimmyjames87364 ай бұрын

    Yes, I think you should make this available Citizen. I don't personally need one, but it seems like a good niche of the market to fill since you have already researched the component sourcing and wiring harness. Plenty of Kepler riders would probably like this kit also. But I wouldn't do it without first checking with a lawyer and creating a sales agreement that protects you from liability and especially emphasizes that the kit may only be used with an RST Guide fork.

  • @user-em5th3qs6z
    @user-em5th3qs6z4 ай бұрын

    Great job on putting this together, just got a 2024 wire freedom, definitely would like to have the kit, please let me know when available , Definitely ready, thanks for all you do, learned a lot from your videos, keep up the good work

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    excellent! hopefully taking orders soon!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @TheeHoosierDeddy_e-biker
    @TheeHoosierDeddy_e-bikerАй бұрын

    I'm TOTALLY down with that! I'd like to upgrade my Aventure.2!!!

  • @demetriusoatis8474
    @demetriusoatis84744 ай бұрын

    I'd be interested too!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    okay thank you for responding! :)

  • @JJ-tf2qs
    @JJ-tf2qs4 ай бұрын

    I'm interested in the AWD kit as well. Hopefully we can make this happen 👍

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @johnking1233
    @johnking12334 ай бұрын

    I will buy one yesterday . Count me in .

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    Awesome!!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @andreylim9024
    @andreylim90244 ай бұрын

    I’d buy one and I have 3 friends that would buy this kit!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    Wow, okay, thank you. I'm trying to get a read on the potential demand. if the interest is there, i will set up a site to take pre-orders soon.

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Hi Andreylim, Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @larrybowers64
    @larrybowers642 ай бұрын

    Please Bryan, also make a 20"X4.00" fat tire bike kit. Maybe even a 24"X3.00" as well.

  • @roncorbett6289
    @roncorbett62894 ай бұрын

    Sure I would buy one

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    excellent! thanks for commenting!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Hi Ron, Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @Doc.Holiday
    @Doc.Holiday4 ай бұрын

    Go for it!!! I’m not a prospect but lots of hunters are using two wheel drive bikes. What you might consider is selling modified bikes. Look at some of the hunting bikes, they are pricey. That might be a good market segment to cater yourself to. Work a tiered quantity deal with Wired for their green bike, do some camo mods, drive mods and go for it!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    Interesting thoughts, thank you for the input!

  • @sambathkangme4663
    @sambathkangme46634 ай бұрын

    I would definitely be interested

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    okay thank you for your interest :)

  • @sambathkangme4663

    @sambathkangme4663

    4 ай бұрын

    @@CitizenCycle925 if and when you do offer a kit …can you have options of 750w or 1000w motors instead of just one option

  • @NewfieNuggets
    @NewfieNuggets4 ай бұрын

    I'd definitely buy a kit

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    awesome! seems to be a lot of interest in this..

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @moonshotsilver
    @moonshotsilver4 ай бұрын

    Fantastic job. I'm in the UK so unfortunately can't get the Wired Freedom. If i was over your way I definitely would be preording this set up.

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    thanks for the response, sorry that things are little more strict across the pond..

  • @rochekml

    @rochekml

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@CitizenCycle925We are so screwed in Europe 😢

  • @georgecypher4568
    @georgecypher45684 ай бұрын

    I want the recipe ...I have the bike that would be perfect for this ..... Lemme know how when and where ..... I really hope you do decide on doing this cause for us people who do not have the time to research all the needed goodies for adding a additional motor up front . I am so glad that you went the route of plug and play and make it easier for alot of people who are not too mechanically inclined ...... It is also alot cleaner when it is done right , just the way you did this one .......

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    Excellent to hear, thanks for the feedback, seems to be quite a bit of interest in this, probably move forward. :)

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Hi George, Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @8garbage
    @8garbage4 ай бұрын

    Yes please, I would like one

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @HaydenAlerte
    @HaydenAlerte4 ай бұрын

    I’d buy the WIRED Freedom (and sell my other e-bike) if you offered this kit. Wouldn’t even think twice. The Wired Freedom is the ultimate sleeper e-bike… and with your kit, I’ll be grinning under my helmet as I pass up all the mopeds (like I do on my Motorcycle(s). Do it! Give the people what they want. ✌️😎

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @braven112
    @braven1124 ай бұрын

    I'd love to buy one of these kits

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    fantastic! thanks for responding, seems to be some good interest in this..

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Hi Braven, Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @OMDURSECURITYISOURBUSINESS
    @OMDURSECURITYISOURBUSINESS4 ай бұрын

    Yeah would love this with 1000amp battery

  • @kenk1959
    @kenk19594 ай бұрын

    Would definately be interested. Please do it👍

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    okay thanks for the feedback!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @kenk1959

    @kenk1959

    3 ай бұрын

    Just ordered an E-Cells five star. Should have it by the end of April. Will definately be ordering a kit over the summer.

  • @TNSonglines
    @TNSonglines4 ай бұрын

    @CitizenCycle925 Yes, nice upgrade. The only option I would suggest is for a regenerative braking option. It would be a requirement for me as the primary reasoning for my new bike's custom build was for regenerative braking on the front hub's motor to reduce brake pad wear by 95-99%. AWD, quicker acceleration, + the ability to drive the bike home if my mid-drive motor goes out or I break a belt are all additional benefits of the front hub on my mid-drive with IGH build. I especially like how you've kept the 2nd system throttle only. Very nice system as you've designed it, but the regenerative braking option might be of interest to those who ride in alot of hilly areas or for those looking to greatly reduce brake pad wear.

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    My goal was to deliver the torque power of a geared hub motor to the front wheel, i dont know of any geared hubs that have a regen feature to them... I think if regen is a main concern then the direct drive motors are probably more appropriate. Thanks for the feedback! what bike did you modify?

  • @TNSonglines

    @TNSonglines

    4 ай бұрын

    @CitizenCycle925 I actually don't have the bike yet and must first sell my current bike then start the bike build. If your main goal was torque you definitely would succeed with a geared hub with your project. My project revolves around a mid-drive bike whose 2nd front hub motors primary reasoning was to nearly eliminate brake pad replacements while providing the additional benefits I listed above. You can do regenerative braking with geared or direct drive. If using direct drive, the freewheel must be locked or completely eliminated and there are videos on KZread from a company that's done alot on regenerative braking motors. I was planning on running a geared front hub but have since decided to use a direct drive hub as I'm already going to have the torque multiplication from my bikes gearing to help assist the mid-drive motor. I stayed away from saying the company's name that is very well versed in regenerative braking but if you want me to share the name I will.

  • @Dave-dr4yy
    @Dave-dr4yyАй бұрын

    Interested I just ordered the bike but I like this.

  • @EBikeBuilder_
    @EBikeBuilder_4 ай бұрын

    I blew out a steel fork with a geared hub! ⚠️ The RST guide is still working for me 👍

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    interesting... that is surprising

  • @matthewsylva8958
    @matthewsylva89582 ай бұрын

    Hell yeah I’m interested

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    2 ай бұрын

    Pre sale now at citizenperformance.com 😁

  • @keithkemp9660
    @keithkemp96604 ай бұрын

    Built it we will buy it👍🏻

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    great, thanks for commenting!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Hey Keith, they are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @VMH721
    @VMH7214 ай бұрын

    Good Morning, I Knew If anyone can accomplish this task It's You, Wow, When I get My Bike, I'm Coming to YOU FROM New York City... Congratulations 🎉👏

  • @daveyJ213
    @daveyJ2133 ай бұрын

    Wow! Nice job; very interesting. I am going to order my Wired soon. A motor up front would only add to the fun. I can see purchasing your kit to add more power for pulling a camping trailer. That would be awesome. I would definitely consider purchasing one of your kits.

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    awesome thanks!

  • @robstafford2700
    @robstafford27004 ай бұрын

    I would love to do this on my Juiced Ripcurrent S. Guess I had better start looking at getting new forks.

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    thank you for the comment! :)

  • @Thomas-po3by
    @Thomas-po3by4 ай бұрын

    Hail Citizen! Love what you have done. unbelievable! My only question is, would I be able to adapt this kit to my Electric xp2 step thru?? Tc from Nevada

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    if enough folks want a 20x4 version i could potentially build that too. you would also need to switch out your forks to RST guide forks.

  • @Thomas-po3by

    @Thomas-po3by

    4 ай бұрын

    @@CitizenCycle925 Thanks for your response. Do appreciate your attention. My bike totally needs another battery, not getting a lot of distance out of the factory battery. The thought of another motor would be nice!!

  • @justbnld
    @justbnld4 ай бұрын

    I appreciate all the videos, bike tests and most of all the modifications! I have an Ariel Rider Kepler and would love one of your kits. Let your Citizens know the details on the pricing and timing of availability. I want one

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    Okay, will keep you posted!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @williamburdick2251
    @williamburdick22514 ай бұрын

    Yes!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    thank you for your input!

  • @donvee2000
    @donvee20004 ай бұрын

    I believe the wired rear motor is 1500w...so it would probably be a difficult endeavor connecting the front 750w and rear 1500w motors to a single throttle. They need different signals to balance out the power. I have an AWD Grizzly.... But the motors are the same power so you can just combine the throttle signals from the controllers to one throttle. But having an AWD bike is definitely good for alot of situations.. and its probably saved my but from wiping out several times. Especially on turns when the rear tire wants to kick out but the front pulls it out of it. I just ordered the new Lyric Graffiti X but im definitely gonna keep my Grizzly for poor weather. Snow and wet roads are much better suited to an AWD bike.

  • @InsideOutside360
    @InsideOutside3604 ай бұрын

    i'm ordering a (green) Freedom tomorrow (~2 month backlog?) This is a perfect solution, count me in, as that'd make it the most badass bike in my KS time zone.

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    okay thank you for the response!

  • @quantumfx2677

    @quantumfx2677

    4 ай бұрын

    E-Cell at 146nm is the same bike as the wired Freedom at 138nm but much cheaper! Controller KT 60v 40A 146nm controller. Delivers 2400 watts of power while the wired Freedom motor is 2200w peak!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @ggebhard1
    @ggebhard14 ай бұрын

    I wish I were young again! Great job, Citizen! I’m really impressed!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @zzzwaj
    @zzzwaj4 ай бұрын

    I’ve been thinking about doing something similar to my grizzly, but with a 72v kit on the rear wheel and keeping the front stock, so this was really informative thanks. Did you contact battery manufacturers for your battery or was that something you got normally? The biggest hurdle for me is finding a 72v that fits my bike with a high enough bms for a 100a controller

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    i went to manufacturer directly to have battery made.

  • @jeffreyjohnson2712
    @jeffreyjohnson27124 ай бұрын

    Great video Citizen. I'll maybe take 2 kits depending on pricing

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    awesome, pricing and more info coming soon!!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Hi Jeffrey, Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @jeffreyjohnson2712

    @jeffreyjohnson2712

    3 ай бұрын

    Hello Citizen. Did you have a final price on the kit and what is the maximum voltage on the 40 amp controller ? I have a spare 60 volt battery on hand.

  • @ravenrock541
    @ravenrock5414 ай бұрын

    You got my interest

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    okay :) thanks!

  • @user-sb8qu6xs5q
    @user-sb8qu6xs5q4 ай бұрын

    Yes, I'm interested. Please let me know when they become available. Thanks

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @robb36kc
    @robb36kc4 ай бұрын

    I was going to buy another battery anyway. I'm planning on riding the RAGBRAI, bicycle ride Across Iowa this summer and one of the days is 80 miles. So, I know I can easily do that with 2 Freedom batteries. With your KIT, I think I can get the range I want, plus all the other benefits the kit delivers... for the same price as a second Wired battery. No brainer, I'm SOLD! I'll need the kit no later than the beginning of July.

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    finishing up things, taking orders soon, should be ready well before july!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @joeberginc7415
    @joeberginc74154 ай бұрын

    Good work. I have 4 diy ebike s 3k to 4k power. 3 are awd. I recommend 2k or 3k rear and no more than 1k front, but I do combine into one throttle.

  • @andrewdiamond2697

    @andrewdiamond2697

    4 ай бұрын

    Wired comes with a 60v 2k in the rear from the factory, and he added 750 to the front...so specs match.

  • @joeberginc7415

    @joeberginc7415

    4 ай бұрын

    45amp x 52volt =2200watt+ ithink he said 52v front battery an 60v rear thats why he has tfront wheel spin...voltage should match front and back.

  • @andrewdiamond2697

    @andrewdiamond2697

    4 ай бұрын

    @@joeberginc7415 The wheel spin is because the center of mass is more towards the rear than normal, due to the battery on the back rack. There just isn't enough mass on the front fork to hold the wheel down. I'd be curious what would happen if the 2nd battery were mounted toward the front of the frame or even better, like a front basket to the head tube....it would have to help some.

  • @mikebrum9910
    @mikebrum99104 ай бұрын

    I did the same upgrade on my Radrover 5 bike as you did on your Citizen bike. I would also be interested in doing it to my Wired Freedom bike. I like the torque it has. How much additional weight did it add?

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    adds 15lbs

  • @Aerial-Adventures727
    @Aerial-Adventures7274 ай бұрын

    Yes. Very interested! I have a 2023 Freedom. I assume I will need to change out my front fork? I’ve been wanting to do this for a while now.

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    yes, you probably have a Mozo fork, would need to change it to RST Guide and those are $200

  • @Aerial-Adventures727

    @Aerial-Adventures727

    4 ай бұрын

    @@CitizenCycle925 thank you! I will definitely do the upgrade for the front motor then. Keep us posted. Great job on everything you do. Much appreciated!!

  • @stevegriffith7236

    @stevegriffith7236

    2 ай бұрын

    The rst guide forks come stock with the 2024 correct?

  • @NoInfoFound
    @NoInfoFound4 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the video, I'm always interested to see how people modify the ebikes. However, you mention the "45A controller" many times but do not mention what the battery BMS is rated for as well as what the actual battery cell configuration and discharge capacity of the individual cells. Can you please provide details on the battery.

  • @dsolvtec
    @dsolvtec4 ай бұрын

    I would LOVE a Smaller Wired freedom! Kudos for the over the top mod, but I just want the bike to feel more comfortable. - (6'1" Wired Freedom owner)

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    yes, it is certainly a large bike, hard to tell until you see it in person.

  • @TheTcat1000
    @TheTcat10004 ай бұрын

    I’m waiting patiently ha ha

  • @johnhecht5565
    @johnhecht55654 ай бұрын

    Yes. When do you hope to have the warp drive available for sale?

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @wigenite
    @wigenite4 ай бұрын

    might be interested, how much weight does it add overall? Also, If you are up for it, I'd like to see what a freedom looks like on 24 or 20in wheels, if it's possible to swap the motors?

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    Kit adds about 15lbs. I dont have any 24in wheels but they may look okay. not sure that 20in would look good.

  • @bizzfo
    @bizzfo4 ай бұрын

    I’d be interested just wish the battery could be mounted somewhere in a case. Would have to know how charging would work as well.

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    i would leave battery mounting up to the customer, different bike will have different places that will be better. a 3amp charger would also be supplied in the kit, forgot to add that in the list.

  • @lewisedwardson7776
    @lewisedwardson77764 ай бұрын

    You got the manufacturer to work with you on this? Wired might even end up buying the same parts and selling Dual Motor Wired Freedoms or Kits to convert them, too, that would be cool. There's certainly room for them to make a more expensive bike and still be within reasonable price. I've thought about what I'd want in a Dual Motor setup already, and what you did is definitely in that direction. Your rear motor has double the rated continuous power of your front, but they peak at around the same, which is ideal because you're going to be using the rear motor constantly and the front motor for periods of time but it gets breaks to cool down, so a lighter 750W motor makes sense there, but it still needs to be able to contribute enough power to match the other motor to feel useful, and it also gives you that redundancy, which is great, if anything stops working, you had two of those anyway, so you're good, just fix it before something else breaks. No worrying about getting stuck in traffic with a bike that won't go and is difficult to pedal.

  • @rustymckinley3398
    @rustymckinley33984 ай бұрын

    I would interested. It would be a few months out before I would be able to purchase it though. I like my bike a lot. AWD would make it awesome.

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    alrighty thanks for responding :)

  • @hanschristeler2392
    @hanschristeler23924 ай бұрын

    Again… YES!

  • @bradarmstrong1656
    @bradarmstrong16564 ай бұрын

    I will buy your kit. As is. But I would also pay more for higher voltage controller and battery. Smooth quiet street tire mounted on the front wheel would be a bonus that I would be glad to pay for (including more $ for the best puncture protection). Forks are expensive, but a good twenty millimeter through axle strong front fork would be great. Steering damper? I will buy as-is, but I would also purchase your higher end kit.

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    Okay, thank you for this input!! appreciate you!

  • @scurtiszz
    @scurtiszz4 ай бұрын

    im in! been thinkin about addind a front motor to thr magicycle cruiser

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    would have to change your forks but otherwise would work!

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @bangstik4599
    @bangstik45994 ай бұрын

    Resellable AWD Kit, sure...great job. You can't stop now. It's only 85% complete. It's not done till you merge the displays and front/rear selector switch like the Grizzly. One more month, then Celebrate‼️ Next project dual 45A controllers on your Grizzly ‼️ 🤜🤯🤛

  • @alphonsotate2982

    @alphonsotate2982

    4 ай бұрын

    My X is better two separate systems are better in case one go down you still have a motor to help you move the bike

  • @ronsantos475
    @ronsantos4754 ай бұрын

    Depends. What are the benefits will it go faster ?

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    Top speed does not change, it just accelerates much fast and way stronger on hills.

  • @user-vy9wk5nm8g
    @user-vy9wk5nm8g4 ай бұрын

    I Would Be Interested In Buying Your Bike Kit! Thanks! I Really Enjoy Your Videos.

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    3 ай бұрын

    Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com

  • @ringss12
    @ringss124 ай бұрын

    You are the man 😎. I have the August 2023 cruiser, would this work with my bike? I also bought an extra battery ($800.00) . You said that the front forks would need to be changed, do you know what the cost of those are? That would be something I would like to get ( after I have more time on my bike,200+ hours on it ). I'm still a newbie with e-bikes (Wired) . Thank you for a great upgrade. Keep on rocking 👍🏼🚵🏽

  • @TheTcat1000

    @TheTcat1000

    4 ай бұрын

    Your forks will not work. The FST are about 200 bucks.

  • @CitizenCycle925

    @CitizenCycle925

    4 ай бұрын

    Your 2023 probably has Mozo forks, you would need to switch to RST Guide which are about $200. thanks for the comment