i completely agree 100% on everything you've said in this vid. i think the damage buffs are pretty strong and a lot of awk kunos will prob underestimate it, especially when you add that to the ability to maintain 9% eva at all times with ease (which the dmg on evasion awk kuno was one of the biggest issues with the spec imo), but i'm really struggling to understand why, going forward with these buffs, you would choose awk kuno over succ kuno for anything other than 1v1 when awakening was already better than succession in 1v1. i definitely think the class needed these dmg buffs and the evasion buff to halo is a warranted qol change for evasion players if nothing else, but the nerfs....... like if i wanted less protections and more damage i could just play succession. the line in the sand between the specs is growing more and more defined with every patch and i really hate it 😞 kuno as a class can feel so rewarding to play, but the fact you have to limit yourself by spec to being good in one area of pvp or another, or good in the low end of pve or high end, has really been ruining the experience for me ever since the succ stam nerfs. i feel like i've been waiting for such a long time just to play one spec of the class without having to do so much more just to achieve less than the meta classes. it shouldn't be this difficult to balance kuno when classes like hash, zerker, valk and striker have free reign over everything. even ninja is getting more meaningful pve and pvp changes these days. rip i guess

one small step forward, multiple steps back. Nice PA

@nylis4090

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Classic PA, no understanding of their own classes somehow

i was pretty excited for this update because of how much they buffed ninja. what a disappointment.

@nylis4090

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I cant tell if this is satire lol. Ninja buffs hardly mean anything imo. The new skill is just stomp in awakening and they dont really need another float.

@presentingjuri6706

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@@nylis4090 i know ur like 600 gs but ppl who grind to improve their gear might want to pve on their main class. im referring to the last couple months where ninja has gotten a lot of buffs, particularly in pve.

@nylis4090

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@@presentingjuri6706 so at the time when i read it and replied, i assumed you meant the new skill for just that patch. Makes a lot more sense now. Also im just a tad shy of 660 these days, i do grind just not as much as most. And as a EX kuno main now drak main, i very much want to grind on my main

Ye guess they think kunos so op that cannot get buffs only. Which doesn't make any sense, probably none of them actually play the class.

also Nylis i have posted a feed back on the forms and clipped some stuff of what you said about the revert its called Kuno Nerfs Down BAD

They straight up buff ninja massively and they give the kuno the give and take treatment what a disappointment 😞 the class need buffs not take these and remove these

@nylis4090

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I dont think the ninja skill is a major buff by any means. Another float option is fine but when they have stomp and serpent why would they use the new skill?

My Kuno Has been catching dust on the shelf since the succ nerfs months ago and now the Awakening get screwed over. smh

@nylis4090

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A lot of kunos feeling that way rn, dmg is all well and good but removing movement and cc options is not a good idea

What is the kuno best core skill for pvp/rbf ?ty dude

Agreed-

PEARL JUST LOVE FUCKING US OVER AS KUNO MAINS I JUST LOVE HOW A NINJA DOES MORE DPS AT LOWER GS AND LOWER AP THEN US KUNO AND WE ARE THE SAME CLASS Just about like ive been playing kuno for years and i really hate all of the damage i wanna grind 40k trash at orc like every single class in the game does now like god damn a shai pulls more trash per hour then kuno and thats sad

@nylis4090

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Feelskunoman

Being a kuno player since 3 years now, I am totally happy to see these changes. Ok they removed the fg on sah spreed but they added it since the rework and this is not a big issue because you can just and c swap to have the fg. They finally give an other aspect to this spell and I think that you can use this spell instead of flow indignation to cc as you used to before. Maybe you can use it directly after dance macabre, who knows.. Eva on halo 9% it is huge and totally deserved on kuno because you have to linger your sa. I am hugely happy for this because this is a spell I always use. The buggiest issue with a kuno is his damage and the time to make dmg. With the moon storm buffs and other dmg buffs that are huge, she will finally give more pressure and not only be a cc class dependant. She totally has way less dmg than many class. You are talking about a nerf but I just see a real big up for this class on pvp aspect. The only bad thing I noticed is : - her pve sucks - chakram rise still useless - delighted blast big nerf even if it goes faster. But since they give her more damage, she will give way more pressure differently

@nylis4090

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To the first point, removing fg on sah spree AND the movement means you cant approach casters anymore, not without getting slapped with huge debuffs and big damage. It also reduces how much we can chase players in general by removing some of kunos movement overall. having a 4th damage float option is a waste since we have: Rise which jsut got buffed, Wheel the go-to in awakening, and Stomp the go-to in pre, why give a 4th thats nowhere near as strong as the other options? To the second point, yes having evasion buff in the awakening kit is good and should have happened a long time ago, im glad we got that. To the third, this is just not true in a lot of cases. Even with the buffs, you arent going to be outrading other classes for the most part. You dont have enough tools to do so against classes like musa who will just win the trade skill for skill and have 5 other skills waiting after the trades are done. Her damage is nowhere near enough to give the kind of pressure a musa does and with the loss of CC on DB her pressure is just mediocre. Im talking about changes, both nerfs and buffs. It doesnt make sense that kuno should get any nerfs of any kind in order to "justfiy buffs" since she was so weak to begin with. Rise actually is a good option now, has more damage than stomp skill for skill. With crit rate stomp prolly slightly harder but its still a fast float. That being said, we still have stomp and wheel so its not like we dont have options and with sah spree, welll now its just overkill on floats. DB nerfs kill her pressure far more than the pressure she gains from the damage. The frame 1 float was a very good counter and the multihit KD with a vacuum was a very strong combo. Losing BOTH of those at the same time only to put in a single KD that isnt effected by resist penetration means it hardly ever even CC's anyone. This means while she still has some CC pressure in flash smoke grab bj, she lost her best option. The damage she has now is still a far cry from other classes and really only brings her up to par with some of the more average classes in terms of damage. Now all that being said, im glad someone is happy but dont settle for less. PA is litterally gutting you while handing you some candy to distract you. NO PVE buffs, nerfs to "compensate" for the buffs on a class that was very very weak to begin with? You shouldnt settle for this, its a joke to kuno mains being treated the way they are.

You think they'll revert the negative changes? I was about to reroll to Awakening Kunoichi and pour my heart & soul into it, I was briefly very happy to see they finally buffed her properly. Now I think I'll try Mystic instead, until they do something positive about Kuno :(

@nylis4090

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Since this video, they have already made it worse. instead of a multi hit KD on the explosion, they put the KD on the initial hit of the disc. This hit only had 1 so now the float is gone and the multi hit KD is gone. Its just a KD in between the first hit and the explosion which is terrible

@AntaresBDO

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@@nylis4090 That's terrible man. xD

give me hotbar indig KD (no SA) PLEASE otherwise fuck that KD it's useless I'd rather have the SA + damage

@juicybad

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indig was never a reliable KD since the only way to use it was after danse which was only for cringe combos that you don't need to do.. KDing after a wheel float (which is rarely a first CC anyways) was always bad full SA danse > indig > wrath actually doing damage feels great for large scale especially along side moonstorm buffs if you can't use indig off hotbar or flow it after more skills it's just not useful as a KD imo

@juicybad

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also thoughts on first frame delighted being a knock-BACK that vacuums into an unavoidable KD?? too busted??? I never cared for the float on delight tbh since it was a bad re-cc and not my favorite first cc anyways edit: I would still much rather have the float back than no float even tho I didn't care for the float that much as a first cc attempt

@nylis4090

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@@juicybad They actually made it worse apparently. Its now no longer a multi hit kd on the explosion, but a KD on the lunar hit. So its goes like delighted attack, lunar hit, lunar explosion. The CC is in the middle now and its only on one hit. KB would be even stronger than float imo since it would only be 1.7cc as opposed to 1 which would be kidna insane.