Thanks Bryan, Its hard to imagine the concentration needed to use this system after several hours flying with people trying to kill you and the weather making it hard work to do the basic flying, and possibly damaged or wounded.

@ukaircraftexplored6556

2 жыл бұрын

I certainly agree. They certainly had to multitask in more ways than one. Thanks for watching

I’ve got one of those cockpit instruments in the shed. My father was a wireless op (non-flying) during WW2, and I suspect he ‘liberated’ it for the meters.

@ukaircraftexplored6556

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing

Excellent explanation of the process. Thanks so much for putting it together shows the technology of the day and ingenuity of the designers

@ukaircraftexplored6556

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Dear Bryan, What a fascinating video series. I have subscribed as this is really first class! Regards, Z

@ukaircraftexplored6556

Жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard!

Most interesting video! Our museum in Canada is in the process of restoring a Lancaster so anything related to that wonderful aircraft is of great interest!

@ukaircraftexplored6556

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

Bryan, thank you for posting this. I'm currently building an instrument panel for an early B-17F which I've modeled after an early 91st BG aircraft. These aircraft used the British SBA system, so I'm installing the kicker gauge. I've asked around for any help with a manual for this system with no luck. Then a friend sent me a link to this video. I just wanted to understand how it worked. You've explained it beautifully. Thanks again!!

@ukaircraftexplored6556

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much, I'm pleased it was helpful.

Excellent. Thank you.

@ukaircraftexplored6556

Жыл бұрын

You are very welcome.

I have watched a few videos now and I'm just fascinated with the level of detail and total accuracy. Thankyou, its been relaxing after a long day at work.

@ukaircraftexplored6556

2 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome

Thank you. Excellent detailed description of the system

@ukaircraftexplored6556

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

That was really very interesting info ,Many thanks for posting it mate !

@ukaircraftexplored6556

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching

Truly brilliant video

@ukaircraftexplored6556

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

A relatively precise approach could also be constructed by the navigator using the Gee hyperbolic navigation aid, the precursor of Decca and Loran. It could give information on how far off the approach centre line and how far out the aircraft was, Lorenz like Radio Range only gave left, on, right and the cone of silence.

@ukaircraftexplored6556

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and sharing

@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935

2 жыл бұрын

@@ukaircraftexplored6556 Jake Howland in KZread covered navigating the Atlantic and using Gee in B-17s. He has several excellent videos.

Thank you so much for sharing you’re amazing knowledge with us.

@ukaircraftexplored6556

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

It's worth mentioning the switch to "A" and "N" Morse codes reminds me of the four-course radio range system used for enroute navigation in the US, which used the same modulation scheme. Kinda curious about the "glide" indicator in the upper center of the SBA instrument, though-was that intended to be driven by another receiver complementing SBA with vertical guidance info, a altimeter repeater, or something else?

I' d love to know more about the control tower and comms with regards to landing etc/dealing with ats posts when returning. what the actual procedure would be. i'd also be interested in some of the roles there if you ever did a video like that :) Great content already!

@ukaircraftexplored6556

2 жыл бұрын

Noted!

@johngrantham8024

9 ай бұрын

Returning aircraft would use flares in 'the colours of the day' to identify themselves as 'friendly' to any trigger happy ground forces. Apart from that, generally they would only communicate with their home airfield tower using R/T (radio telephoney) when within range, to obtain landing instructions. Each airfield and squadron had a callsign. For example, RAF Graveley's callsign was 'Brishbrush' and their resident Lancaster squadron (35 sqdn, PFF) was 'Complex'. Individual aircraft would use their aircraft's letter. So, approaching base, the wireless operator would transmit 'Complex M-Mother to Brishbrush, requesting landing instructions, over' . The tower controller, often a WAAF, would 'stack' returning aircraft by, for example, transmitting 'Brishbrush to Complex M-Mother left hand orbit base at angels (height in 1000 feet) three'. The aircraft would acknowledge. The tower controller would call the lowest aircraft in to land and instruct those orbiting above to reduce height accordingly until all were down. Pilots practiced SBA regularly during the day. 35 Squadron had an Airspeed Oxford equipped for practice and my late Father's pilot would often do SBA circuits and bumps to hone his skills.

Read a wonderful fiction story about this called "Glide Path" written by Arthur C Clark in 1965.

@ukaircraftexplored6556

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I was in the RAF during the 50's . Our Lancs and Lincolns operated with BABS. What is the difference in operation to SBA.?. I remember seeing the BABS stations at the end of both main runways at Mildenhall and Binbrook at that time

@ukaircraftexplored6556

2 жыл бұрын

The later BABs system, you mention used a ground Lucero station and an airborne Rebecca system. I may create a video covering this in the future. Thanks so much for watching.

Nice, informative video on early instrument approach aids. Didn't know these were availiable in those early days. It could be compared to modern nonprecision (or 2D) approach aids. Does anybody know to what meterological minimums these aids could be used?

@ukaircraftexplored6556

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

@eddievhfan1984

9 ай бұрын

Based on what info I could gather, the inner beacon was used as the go/no-go point (in modern parlance, the missed approach point), so the system could be used in near zero-zero conditions-depending on the positioning of the inner beacon, slant range visibility could have been 300m (the original Lorenz beam in civilian use) or 50m (as used in SBA). However, on account of these being wartime conditions, and heavy bombers of this era having significantly slower approach speeds than a modern equivalent, they may have been willing to accept the higher aircrew burden of later approach decisions, certainly a lower and closer decision point than is normally tolerated in civilian (or military) non-precision approaches today.

The father of the ILS..

@ukaircraftexplored6556

2 жыл бұрын

Yes it was!

I must be old as remember using the Visual Aural Radio Range (VAR)

@ukaircraftexplored6556

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

Hello, I'm writing a novel about a Lincoln doing long range flights, anyone has any knowledge of what it was like to spend hours flying on the type? How they heated food? Did they keep the same RPMs all the time or they varied from time to time? What brand were the sparks plugs? etc... cheers.

@ukaircraftexplored6556

2 жыл бұрын

Hope someone posts the info you require.

Hello, Do we know which or all airfields had this installed and the relative dates? Thank you

@ukaircraftexplored6556

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry, I don't have that information. Thanks for watching

Hi Bryan, I'm a new viewer here. I'm writing a story of a Lancaster pilot and I have a question about the intercom system. " The question." Can the crew communicate with each other if the main radios at the radio operator station is damaged? I'm looking to be as accurate as possible. Thanks for your expertise.

@ukaircraftexplored6556

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Julie, I'm sorry for the delay in coming back. The main radios were the R.1155 receiver and the T.1154 Transmitter. They were mounted on the Wireless Operator's table. The Lancaster's intercommunication system used the T.R.9F and A.1134 installation. This radio was connected to communications socket mounted at each crewmember's station. So I believe if the main radios were damaged, the crew could still communicate with one another. I think it would be good for you to also double check, by contacting the Duxford Radio Society, they should be able to confirm this for you. Thanks for subscribing and watching!

This SBA system is simulated IL-2 Stumovik: Cliffs of Dover/BLITZ, but partially - e.g. lack audible Morse Code signal; like all the rest in this "half baked" combat simulator game (PC). Is simulated better in IL-2 Sturmovik: 1946 + Team Daidalos mods.

@ukaircraftexplored6556

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing