Avengers Kang Dynasty: Can Kang Ever Be Destroyed?
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Kang the Conquerer seems impossible for the Avengers to destroy, since he will always respawn from another timeline. Erik Voss dives into the comics for a possible way for the Avengers to defeat the villain in Kang Dynasty. Visit allform.com/newrockstars for 20% off any sofa of your choice. We chose their 3-seat sofa, in dark blue with an ottoman. Thank you Allform for sponsoring! #allform
We can't wait for Jonathan Majors to overtake the MCU starting in Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania in a few short months, and we truly never want him to leave, but now, the question among the Avengers will be... how can a villain with endless variants across the Multiverse ever be truly vanquished? Erik Voss explains the origin of Kang in the Marvel comics, the major comics storylines likely to be adapted for Quantumania, Kang Dynasty, and Secret Wars, and a possible mission and plot structure for these films based on clues given to us throughout Marvel Phase 4.
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@arrowsofdemise443
Жыл бұрын
Maybe ill try it!
@cedricboykins9328
Жыл бұрын
This is where Harley Kenner comes in
@waynesworldofsci-tech
Жыл бұрын
I have no idea if you are right but it all sounds super exciting! And with Marvel’s proven ability to attract and cast top talent I am stoked!
@supershadow8550
Жыл бұрын
Maybe one of the kang variant will be the villain in moonknight season 2
@MrSimcity561
Жыл бұрын
@@arrowsofdemise443 yes
I'm predicting a White Vision cameo in Quantumania. That would explain where he's been, and put him ahead of the curve in identifying Kang as a threat.
@zoraizzaidi9490
Жыл бұрын
this would be sick ngl
@I_Shit_on_your_shit_point
Жыл бұрын
Im confused. “Where has Vision been?” “He’s in Quantumania” “Ok, question answered?”
@User_8eue
Жыл бұрын
I think white vision will appear in Wakanda Forever 👀
@jordanwilliams25328
Жыл бұрын
I see White Vision showing up next in “Armor Wars” next. Not “Quantumania”
@ajsimpson.11
Жыл бұрын
@@jordanwilliams25328 I agree they haven’t announced when it’s coming out but yeah that’s where I think he comes back
This would insanely tie in with End Game.. The only Kang who wanted to stop himselfs was "The One Who Remains" who was in control of the timeline. Let's say there was "only one way" to stop Thanos in Endgame because The One Who Remains needed Stark to create time travel, so that in the future MCU, the Avengers can travel to the future to leave only baby Kang
Dr Doom: “hold my beer”
@clop3z199
Жыл бұрын
Waiting for Giancarlo Esposito to take the role!!
@willnutland5772
Жыл бұрын
@@clop3z199 he is great but I’d rather see Cillian Murphy seen some pretty cool fan art that really sold me. Both great actors especially at playing pretty nasty and intelligent characters
@richardpage5812
Жыл бұрын
Doom hold my beer? Stop it, you think he's not being manipulated as well?😂🤣
@Meetwad
Жыл бұрын
Isn't doom going to be the underling of Kang in the MCU?
Can't wait for the Kang The Conqueror hype train to really get going. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Conquering Time!
@chalkyiswesome
Жыл бұрын
I think you meant It's Conquerin' Time!
@pontfolid
Жыл бұрын
I somehow can’t see it really getting as momentous as Infinity War and Endgame
@guccidolphin
Жыл бұрын
@@pontfolid Although I agree that it will be hard for anything to be as momentous as the Snap, I could see Kang succesfully pruning the majority of the Avengers being a comparable moment.
@DeadmanInc336
Жыл бұрын
@@pontfolid I dunno, mate. Spiderman: No Way Home showed that there's still tons of juice and momentous moments left in the MCU.
@murk4552
Жыл бұрын
@@pontfolid then think bigger.
I would love to see a Kang vs a Kang in the MCU.
@Red1Green2Blue3
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure we'll get some Kang on Kang action
@fullriver1234
Жыл бұрын
😳
@dybiosol
Жыл бұрын
@@Red1Green2Blue3 ayo
@TonyTylerDraws
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure we’re going to see Kang the Conqueror (villain), Immortus (worse villain) and Nathaniel Richards (anti-villain).
@redcrow213
Жыл бұрын
Kang gang
This is insane 🤯 so hypothetically.. at the end of Secret Wars, baby Kang will be "He Who Remains" meaning, that when Loki and Sylvie kill "He Who Remains" they set off all the Kang branches again and they have to cut them off to leave one Kang again which will be "He Who Remains" again🤯🤯 wtffff
@I_Shit_on_your_shit_point
Жыл бұрын
Hypothetically sure, a trope emerges. Not a lot Wtf involved in doing a version of something done many times before
@adhiseaman1099
Жыл бұрын
When He Who Remains winked at Sylvie while saying "I'll see you soon", is more terrifying than Thanos's genocidal campaign. I mean just like you said, you can't kill him coz he will always come back anyway.
@nalday2534
Жыл бұрын
if all of feige's never ending bs ends with a single timeline being restored then it'll be hilarious because that's exactly what loki was against. watch feige peddle the "free will is garbage" bs forward in the name of "greater good"
@murk4552
Жыл бұрын
@@nalday2534 this isn't Fiege's dumbass. It's Stan Lee and Jack Kirby's ideas, "never ending", is Marvel actually dipping into their batshit and crazy creative behind mythology and history for the first time outside of gaming and comics.
@rangelcarlos53
Жыл бұрын
Imagine in the end of Secret Wars. baby Kang is raise by the Lokis.
i keep picturing the whole moon knight and kang going across time will opening up the movie
Reed: Victor, we need your help! Kang is OP as fck!! Victor Von Doom: Fine, I'll do it myself. I'd kill to see Doom vs Kang 🔥🔥
@docplays6508
Жыл бұрын
Eventually we might see that
@Villainz
Жыл бұрын
yup, this is the comment that should be pinned
@Sam-vg4rj
Жыл бұрын
It would be cool for doom to allow Kang to beat the avengers and waits for his precise moment to strike.
@yuvi3000
Жыл бұрын
I'm imagining the possibility of an Infinity War-esque ending in Kang Dynasty where Kang Prime is about to destroy everything and then Doom casually kills him, takes whatever technology or weapon Kang was about to use and becomes an even bigger threat for the next movie's Secret Wars story.
@sisis-qt4oc
Жыл бұрын
Doom isn't the big villain lol
You don't kill Kang. You combine Kang. If the nature of the book of the damned is to destroy and divide, the nature of the book of Ishanti is to heal and combine
@dustinjackson7149
Жыл бұрын
That opened a lot for me thank you for that commit
@zackery5678
Жыл бұрын
wtf does combine kang mean though😂😂
@vmv544
Жыл бұрын
@@zackery5678 figuratively speaking, meaning “MAKE THEM FIGHT EACH OTHER”
@kawaiisempai477
Жыл бұрын
So Kang is basically colonial British?
@dloading5858
Жыл бұрын
@Cool Videos simpleton answer … kang invented the “device” what makes you think he won’t keep making them
He who remains had it right. The only way to stop Kangs is to stop them from ever existing. The Avengers might need to set up their own version of the TVA.
This actually sounds really badass
Imagine he has a device where he could send a message in real time how he is killed to another variant So that variant now knows how one variant got killed So it doesn’t happen again Thus just getting stronger
As someone who’s been hoping for Kang as the next big villain of the MCU after Thanos, I’m REALLY looking forward to what the developers have in store for him in the future.
@ddrizzyds1216
Жыл бұрын
i just pray disney doesn’t ruin him and the potential
@AshW10N
Жыл бұрын
@@ddrizzyds1216 bruh
@LoudonClear
Жыл бұрын
@@AshW10N it’s true
@tylerlarson7263
Жыл бұрын
@@ddrizzyds1216 Disney doesnt ruin anything you hater
@badillojuanj
Жыл бұрын
Nothing. They have nothing. Phase 4 has come and gone and he has 1 cameo
_It kinda be nice if they didn’t kill the big villain off for once. Especially with one like Kang where it doesn’t even make sense._
Several options: (1) You don't. Kang is but a lesser evil as he's stated himself to be. (2) You REMAKE the universe/timelines. Which is part of the whole point of secret wars. (3) You progress his timelines to their conclusion. Not just one, all of them. (4) You shrink the timelines down to one, THEN restrain the last Kang. Basically return He who remains, but trap him after. (5) Something Eternity related. Omnipresence is nothing compared to omnipotence. (6) You affect all timelines at once. While there are limited ways of doing this, it's shown that Scarlet Witch is at least capable of doing this to some extent by destroying all darkholds at once.
@joshbrosh6626
Жыл бұрын
Number 4 is the most logical way
@JohnFungo
Жыл бұрын
Can you reference the comic issues where these were based? Thanks in advance!
@JordyLee23
Жыл бұрын
#4 is the multiversal war getting turned into the sacred timeline, closing the loop and starting over as seen in Loki series
@ethansalzmann836
Жыл бұрын
option 7, KRP, the Kang removal project where varrants of mcu heroes to keep an eye on every kang and steer them in the path of good, death of an kang as a last resort.
@jamescheddar4896
Жыл бұрын
all but "kang prime" get destroyed by the beyonders along with most of the multiverse
You beat all Kangs by ensuring He Whi Remains goes on to dominate Alioth and defeat all of his variants before they kill He Who Remains variant before he can end the multiversal war
What if the FANTASTIC FOUR is imprisoned in Chronopolis and Quantumania events set them free. Might explain why they weren't anywhere to be found.
@adewusiabraham5905
Жыл бұрын
I love this, could work
Yeah Dr Doom “HOLD MY BEER”
2 things, I enjoyed this so much I watched parts of it 3x to really get all of the information in… also, was looking for a sectional need to check out allform. Thank you 😊
i have a feeling scott lang might die in kang dynasty just like how vision died in infinity war
@I_Shit_on_your_shit_point
Жыл бұрын
Or you mean like how anyone has ever died?
@kittyserenity174
Жыл бұрын
He’ll die in Quantumania most likely
Kang don’t die, he multiplies!!!! 😂🤣
I think it's a paradoxical loop where he ends up as he who remains
6:08 Rhodey brought up a similar suggestion regarding baby Thanos in Endgame. 7:59 *Seven* Horcruxes 8:01 Seven Evil *Exes* (the fourth was female)
now will "Dynasty" be a truly appropriate wording here to couple along with Kang for THIS particular Avengers movie, as opposed to the more accurately described "Avengers: (Approximately Five Days) Of Ultron" ? lol
@Matthew-gs7yj
Жыл бұрын
Avengers: (One Day) Infinity War
That’s how ULTRON should have been done, he should always be around somehow
@JahonCross
Жыл бұрын
He still is around lol have you watch what if?
I have a feeling we’re going to need a cork board to understand everything in the MCU by the end of Phase 6.
I predict there’ll be a throw away joke in one of the upcoming films that Kang has ‘even been a rat’ which self-mocks the universe-saving rat at the beginning of Endgame.
@echo_z319
Жыл бұрын
…
Great video you never disappoint sir
Awesome once again!
Appears to beat Kang will probably be like you said, all the variants of avengers, finding the original He who Remains, placing him back (as He who remains said -“I’ll just be back here anyway”) to the end of time. Maybe also since universes featuring fantastic four or X-men and what not may be destroyed they will combine them when He who remains is placed back. Just my thought.
@lccirby20
Жыл бұрын
Is he a villain or hero?
I know superhero movies have Positive endings. But for Kang I feel he deserves to come out on top in these phases.
This is exactly what I was thinking, kind of like the movie “Looper”… leading the kid to the right path …
daaamn, voss' theories are always spot on!
I always look forward to discussion such as this! It makes sense - and now I'm sold to that idea that MCU is building up many "Kangs"
1:42 Mom I need swordsman Mom : Wehave swordsman at home Mom I need Lalo Salamanca Mom :We have Lalo Salamanca at home Lalo and Swordsman at home :
@liamfrr
Жыл бұрын
just really not funny is it
please do more of these comic dives!
Kan is going be a bigger villain then Thanos. 😎
Convince the Living Tribunal that Kang is dangerous to the Multiverse, and he'll wipe out Kang permanently.
@sinteleon
Жыл бұрын
That would require convincing the living tribunal of such. I'd wager the living tribunal would deem the opposite, that the sacred timeline was indeed the safest option.
@tjofwakanda8027
Жыл бұрын
@@sinteleon agreed
@drewbelchermedia
Жыл бұрын
Also, from a storyline perspective, that would mean the Avengers didn’t rlly beat him. They had to ask someone else to do it. I’m sure many people would feel punked by that conclusion.
@Sam-vg4rj
Жыл бұрын
@@drewbelchermedia I think it would be a cool cameo if the avengers do ask the living tribunal at some point and he denies their request. So, your point still stands and the living tribunal does get a cameo.
The only way to truly kill Kang is to unleash Alioth on every single universe in the multiverse. And that would mean it would have to be a Kang that does it.🤨
@manchuk1d
Жыл бұрын
Did Alioth also die with he who remains?
@cedriceric9730
Жыл бұрын
@@manchuk1d no, alioth is the most powerful creature in the mcu
They don't need to use strange to replace vision one weather or not to kill baby Kang they can just use white vision if he makes an appearance in the next 3 years
Doom will answer this question
The avengers gonna be watching this video tutorial in avengers hq in Avengers: The Kang Dynasty
Perhaps the final scene will be baby Kang being raised by Love.
@ateebjawwadpathan6412
Жыл бұрын
Lol
@I_Shit_on_your_shit_point
Жыл бұрын
Depends on how one handicaps such a bet; if you fee a likelihood of sucking entirely, then yea there’s a perhaps.
Okay 8:20 these are some eerily specific things Voss got right jn an eerily specific order that’s lined exactly right with how they introduced the manga in quantumania
Goooooood stuff to look forward to
OOOOHHHHHHHH! I like where you went with this one!!!
Majors is gonna pull this off. I can’t wait what they’re gonna do. Also can’t wait for another avengers movie to end on a cliffhanger 😂 it’s good we won’t have to wait a whole year for the SecretWars. Although I have a feeling it might get delayed. Do we think Kang will be the main villain in both Avengers movies? Or will Doom be the main in the second one. Also I hope Russos will do secret wars. That would be Booooooooom looking for this kinda moment.
This would be fun to see if happens!
Kang is kinda like reverse flash can't kill him that easily Whatever you do he will always survive
KING VOSS. LOVE FROM THE UK
*No seven evil Exes*
This is GOATED
Having Secret Wars end with baby prime kang returning to right time and place makes a lot of sense. End game ended with death. You parallel that with the next of big ending with life. Death and Life. the two big pivotal points in a person's life.
Kang is literally four parallel universes ahead of the Avengers
“Avengers: Kangs Destiny” would be a dope title
This next phase of the MCU could be awesome
So I think the place loki went to at the end of Loki season 1 with allioth is where battle world is going to take place that being said Kang used allioth to beat him self so that will probably happen again I do hope Kang teams up with other villains doom high revolution
@chaichait6879
Жыл бұрын
He weaponize allioth and merge it with his tech to use it anywhere not at this particular place i think 🤔
@SuperChristian808
Жыл бұрын
@@chaichait6879 I remember the part where he said he turned it into a weapon but may have missed where he said he merged it with his tech
@josuafraser4865
Жыл бұрын
@@SuperChristian808 I mean isnt it kinda safe to say that him “weaponizing” alioth was basically him merging it with his tech? Because I doubt he could’ve communicated with that beast lol. Most likely he tamed it and trapped it (with his tech ofc) and studied it, and manipulated its power so he can command it at will, as in send it anywhere use a portion of its abilities for certain tasks Etc, wouldn’t be surprised if alioth played a huge part in even the creation of the tva and Stuff like that. But hey who knows
White vision still out there too
Love it! Except Kang replacing god Doom. Would be much more interested in showing all that for Kang with a sort of parallel for Doom's path to battle world
@codekhalil6437
Жыл бұрын
I, and many others still feel Doom will usurp Kang at some point. Likely at the end of Kang Dynasty.
@josuafraser4865
Жыл бұрын
@@codekhalil6437 I feel like somehow by the end of kang dynasty it’ll be dr doom in some sort of agreement with kang and they’re both jus reeking havoc across the multiverse and during secret wars they’ll have some sort of fall out caused by the avengers and we’ll get a sweet 15 min segment of a doom vs kang fight 😮💨😮💨 I’d lose my shitttt.
If they go with the route of multiple Kang’s having to be killed off, I hope at least they take down some avengers along the way. If we just keep seeing multiple Kang’s being defeated, it’ll take away from the Kang prime.
This is a great way to bring Kang into the MCU Multiverse!! People thought that the current phase of MCU was all over the place...........BUT that's what the multiverse can be LMAO
One weakest I have found just within Loki, is that once He Who Remains, Loki and Sylvie crossed the Threshold, He Who Remains had no idea what was going to happen next, therefore he's easily vulnerable at that moment, if they can somehow replicate that during the Secret Wars and during the Multiversal War, it could be possible to defeat him...the question is how to cross the Theshold intentionally...im still puzzled as to what caused them to cross it in the first place during the Disney plus series, Loki
Legend has it every time you mention Jonathan Hickman's Fantastic 4 Rob loses his shit and automatically knows.
What about the time hawkeye got lost in time and khonshu made a deal with him. Wasn't it if he helped him fight Kang he'd put him back in his correct time
White Vision is still out there with his memories abled to be reconnected....
What if, Revona Renslayer is actually the mother, or even the grandmother of Nathaniel Richards?
Please do Comic Reading Guides leading up to what you think we might see!
Is there a good variant that could be exploited?
Curious as why you think Vision wouldn't be the one to figure it out? Is him just flying off at the end of WandaVision just taken by everyone as him just effin' off and not being involved any more?
The number thing is a good point
Sounds like a cool plot
Dr. Strange casts The Runes of Kof-Kol on Kang so he forgets how to time travel.
So they could be pulling a Sky High move and deage the villain to raise them as good children. Or like The Missing book series by Margaret Peterson Haddix.
9:44 favourite part
thats a very concept. Vision taking care of kang
Cool!
This has me hyped for Marvel again.
Only way to kill Kang is to use Eternity and wish that all the Kangs never existed, just like how Gorr resurrected his daughter from the dead.
@legomaster2538
Жыл бұрын
That’s brilliant! I never would have thought of that!
@blackpanther6885
Жыл бұрын
but eternity grand only one wish and gorr used it and that too he grand wish the person who finds him first not for everybody.
@koenvandooren9869
Жыл бұрын
I think there is a eternity for each universe so the wish won't work across other universes
@brianm3160
Жыл бұрын
@@koenvandooren9869 no eternity is one, he has his own realm
I'm all the Kangs vs I'm all the Avengers? In a Galaxy Far Far Away? Wait did you just say Scott Pilgrim? Now I want Michael Cera in the MCU...
Congrats EAVoss on the union!!!
I have a feeling that they will eventually end up with Kang turning into iron lad And try to keep more of the Young avengers together. I think we're all just patiently waiting for dooms arrival.
I want to know how Kang can conquer me! Lol (Jonathan Majors) yum!
He Who Remains is Kang Prime. He is also Victkr Timely. When Loki and Sylvie met He Who Remains he tells them who his previous names were.
seven evil exes.
Only chance: Convince a Kang to be good, so he does not die!
I just wanna see him and wanda fight
I’ve also thought since S1:E6 that HWRs will end up back in the chair as he planned. I don’t exactly know how to factor in F4, Dr. Doom, or the Beyonder, maybe the Beyonder will eradicate him.
@echo_z319
Жыл бұрын
dont think theyre doing beyonders. maybe antman does actually die in quantamania which sets up the young avengers, then the young avengers work with the F4 and doom to defeat prime kang, and doom secretly steals his power which allows him to create battleworld
8:25 He Who Remains WAS the MCU version of Immortus.
@Justme-rk2sqg
Жыл бұрын
REALLY!!!!
dang I think you cracked the code on this one. You're prob gonna be dead on about the Avengers having to defeat every version of Kang
7 evil exes - Ramona
Amazing video and theories. One thing I wanted to point out is I believe it's been said that the Kang in Quantumania IS the prime Kang and that his facial scars will help you identify him as such moving forward. I'm not entirely sure if that's true though because I haven't seen the movie yet.
This is a helluva rabbit hole lol
9:46 ooh kind of like Uncanny X-Force and Evan Apocolypse!
I think the averngers will go the eternity and wish all the kangs away
@echo_z319
Жыл бұрын
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If there’s an infinite Kang there are infinte Avengers as well
Sword seems to do the job well.
If they stop kang, isnt there automatically a different universe where he didnt got stopped somewhere? so that Kang can still be a threat? Same counts for Infinith Ultron in What if.. Isnt there a version where Ultron succeeded in conuering universes?
How to defeat kang. Become a loving guardian and influence him to not be evil
One of Kang variants is in Tropic Thunder, Kangaroo Jack