Autopsy Raises Questions in Death of Teen Found Naked in Road
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The autopsy for Noah Presgrove determined what caused the 19-year-old’s death but didn’t answer the question of how he died. Presgrove was found dead in a road in Terral, Oklahoma last September. He’d been at a party with friends the night prior. The medical examiner released the autopsy report for Presgrove this week but it raised more questions about his death. Law&Crime’s Angenette Levy looks at the report with crime scene consultant Alina Burroughs in this episode of Crime Fix - a daily show covering the biggest stories in crime.
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@MattHanr
Ай бұрын
Plot twist, Google counter sues the class action participants and makes their entire life’s incognito history a matter of public record
@billgreen1861
Ай бұрын
@@MattHanr Could you please explain what they mean by " you might have a claim ... " and what this is all about ? Thank you, in advance. I'm a senior and don't quite understand these things.
@MattHanr
Ай бұрын
@@billgreen1861 that is typical language with class action lawsuits. They are casting a wide net to get as many people as possible to join the litigation. They want thousands of people complaining that they were damaged in some way. Then Google settles, and everyone gets a small check. Or they go to trial and either get nothing or potentially a lot more if Google loses
@DocSeville
26 күн бұрын
Only perverts use it.
@retard_activated
5 күн бұрын
Sounds like a ploy to get your personal info. Sites like these have been known to harvest user info to sell to other companies and advertisers....
His GF and people at party should be interrogated …why is there no progress
@stuff2047
Ай бұрын
His family and friends say he didn’t have a girlfriend
@andreafrazier6726
Ай бұрын
EXACTLY
@rochelle2269
Ай бұрын
You need evidence for progress. How do you know the ppl at the part haven’t been interrogated?
@lisabarr6004
Ай бұрын
Usually if there is writing on your body..would probably mean he was passed out at party. Would they have thrown him from a moving car?
@victoriaromero3587
Ай бұрын
He had NO GIRLFRIEND!
Someone at this party did something to him. Someone at this party knows what happened. He didn't just go missing unnoticed. He wasn't just walking around naked unnoticed.
The Oklahoma State Police have yet to call in the FBI on this 8-month-old unsolved "suspicious" death of a star high school athlete. Why not?
@nikigonzalo8319
27 күн бұрын
i heard some people at the party have family ties to authorities in the town, being from a small town also, i’ve seen people commit crimes and get away with no punishment or they cover their crimes because of the influence their last name has.
@carriesiboni8407
20 күн бұрын
@@nikigonzalo8319 yep that’s what I read as well . FBI outside of that country place needs to be called in .
With friends like he had, who needs enemies?
@IaraLyy
Ай бұрын
👏👏
@ivek_k
27 күн бұрын
@@IaraLyy facts ✊🏼
@waynemiller6156
11 күн бұрын
They were not friends
@vernonfrance2974
7 күн бұрын
Do you think you have enough information to actually know what they were really like or if they were acting strangely under the influence of alcohol and/or drugs?
Someone was extremely jealous of this boy...
@sinickasdavis2159
29 күн бұрын
That's what I said and at the party a boy was holding a big shotgun, someone was jealous
@MisterWhatWhat
26 күн бұрын
THIS!
@ronniebishop2496
19 күн бұрын
And I’ve seen people let rage build up in them and if they finally get in the position to release it, they do.
@gonnadanceagain
16 күн бұрын
Oh! Exactly, my thought, too! The professional pictures say he wasn't a poor kid and somebody didn't like him... because of it???
@lorilovinglife_
16 күн бұрын
Plus, he was gorgeous! I'm sure a lot of girls liked him, and that might have made other boys jealous for sure. Such a tragedy 😢
Wow, my heart breaks for the parents of this precious young man. This was personal and cruel, and not an accident. These monsters need to be found and punished to the fullest extent.
@sagemode6
Ай бұрын
precious?
@tdwc2102
Ай бұрын
@@sagemode6yes, every life is PRECIOUS and he was someone’s child! Why would you question that?
@vickyabramowitz2885
Ай бұрын
@@sagemode6 Yes. Precious. You callous beast!
@AL-fl4jk
Ай бұрын
@@sagemode6troll elsewhere, like a military funeral as per your kind
@justinwyatt8
Ай бұрын
@@tdwc2102 at what point does an adult no longer become precious?
He was clearly MURDERED. The fact that common sense is being questioned is absurd! There must be justice for Noah and his family!
its actually insane that likely half a dozen to a dozen people have managed to keep quiet about this so far.
I am shocked at the number of severe injuries and trauma he received resulting in his tragic death! All his teeth knocked out, all his ribs broken, a large part of his scalp ripped off and his skull caved in! Absolutely horrendous! Whomever did this to him are monsters! They can’t possibly be human!
@Clintsessentials
20 күн бұрын
Agree.
@rabbitchcraft
8 күн бұрын
Mankind are the worst monsters of all.
Poor child he was so handsome and gone too soon 🥺😢 I really hope they find the people responsible for his death my heart goes out to his family 🙏
It's undetermined because they don't know which officer's son did it.
@foxywhitetip7387
12 күн бұрын
Well said
I will say! I live in a very small town, and honestly speaking, the cops are sooo crooked! They will cover for anyone whose name is well known, or if it's a person who has become their "snitch". It's ridiculous.
@user-eu3qy8uf7f
12 күн бұрын
Yes. I am thinking the same otherwise someone would have talked by now from the pressure. These are young kids he,was with at that party. So it's likely law enforcement and the parents have "circled the wagons. Also wondering if this is Native American territory or reservation area?
If you leave a bar and get hurt the bar staff are liable. The people at the party should he held to that same standard.
@fanatik9590
21 күн бұрын
Yes, the police should start holding people accountable for his death, and I'm sure they'll start talking about what really happened that night and early morning.
He was tortured, and it was done by multiple people. He was a large young man… you strip someone to humiliate them….
@FRMHEVN
Ай бұрын
My Grandpa 2as a WW2 POW when the Japs came to the island they were on the first thing they did was line them up and make the strip. It got way worse from there. It's horrifically evil. And you are right. It was personal and they wanted to humiliate him not protect his dignity.
@lizstallard9902
15 күн бұрын
Exactly .
@malloryemclaren
9 күн бұрын
That’s for sure. I feel so sad for him. He was probably going to go places if he had an opportunity. Just look at him!
I can’t imagine how his manner of death is considered Undetermined! It should be listed as HOMICIDE!
@Isaac_132
Ай бұрын
Because they can’t definitively say what caused the injuries that lead to his death. We’re his injuries caused by the ATV rollover? Where his injuries caused by a fight? Which injuries were caused by what incident? How did he end up naked? They don’t have enough information about what happened that evening/morning to make the determination. The report is supposed to state facts not suppositions.
@skuffel5405
Ай бұрын
What else do you expect from a podunk town in Oklahoma?
@Future-zx9ts
Ай бұрын
@@skuffel5405the autopsy was done in Oklahoma City. Not a “podunk town.”
@unicornofhope8226
Ай бұрын
I bet if anything it could be manslaughter, accidental death, or somewhere in between. Xoxo
@Meisha1965
Ай бұрын
They also said no foul play. WTH?
Beautiful kid left out on a highway; in the middle of the night, in the middle of nowhere. *Left alone to die like roadkill* 🤍 Someone he knew was jealous. RIP
This is the OK justice system. There was a whole party going on. *SOMEONE* knows what happened to that boy. Do better, Oklahoma!
This happened 8 months ago. It’s very concerning that after this much time LE seems to have nothing. Nothing seems to add up, something stinks about this. Hopefully the parents are able to hire their own investigator.
@lepermessiah2608
Ай бұрын
I've heard rumors the investigation was botched because the local police had kids at the party and they didn't want them involved in the investigation.
@scroogemcduckrich9705
Ай бұрын
small town corruption and cover up
@JayRoberts244
Ай бұрын
@@scroogemcduckrich9705 I hate to imply that, but it’s hard if not impossible to think that isn’t a possibility. That and or incompetence.
@wmdkitty
Ай бұрын
@@JayRoberts244 Why not both?
@kristinab1078
Ай бұрын
@@scroogemcduckrich9705 In a small town, the truth almost always comes out at some point. It's just a matter of time before someone says something and then the buzz is all around town in short order.
In my practice I've seen a lot of patients with head trauma. The depressed skull fracture, with concomitant basilar skull fractures, scalp degloving/avulsion, neck fracture and peripheral injuries (abrasions, rib fractures etc) are what you would see in a motor vehicle accident when someone gets ejected from the vehicle. Or if someone is thrown from a moving vehicle.
@unbalancedlibra9788
21 күн бұрын
What do you think happened? If you dont mind me asking
@foxywhitetip7387
12 күн бұрын
Are they found naked with mismatching shoes .?
@peztopher7297
10 күн бұрын
Did they throw him out and end up running over him with a rear tire?
@Blakblooded
6 күн бұрын
@@unbalancedlibra9788 Thrown out of a moving vehicle seems most likely. All the reported injuries could have occurred from that. Naked car surfing and falling off the roof would give similar results.
Justice for Noah🙏🏻⚖️
@Bella-ht5jb9he3z
Ай бұрын
There's a FB page with that name. It's very interesting to read.
Glad that Law & Crime are covering this story. I hope Noah gets justice, sending ❤ to his family all the way from Australia.
It is so sad that more than one person out there knows who and how this young man was KILLED! And I am heart broken for his family and all of those that loved him! Prayers for all.
@victoriaromero3587
Ай бұрын
Many people know EXACTLY what happened...but if they don't get subpoenaed and questioned by the FBI ( town cops are useless!) or given a lie detector test ..it might take longer to find out what exactly happened...
Noah didn’t deserve to die the way he did, sadly his friends had let him down. Rip Noah ❤ from Australia
This is just so BRUTAL!! THESE ARE MIND-BLOWING INJURIES!! HOW MUCH HATE DOES THE PEOPLE HAVE TO DO THIS TO A PERSON. THIS IS CLEAR AS DAY HOMICIDE!! 😡😨😭😭😭
Why was he naked? Someone disrespected him. 😮 And took his life away.
@Bird5861tr4
Ай бұрын
SA and murder
@ijj2286
2 күн бұрын
@@Bird5861tr4 if there was SA, it would have been stated in the autopsy, but there aren't. It's probably homicide alone.
I am glad you are bringing light to this case! This case should be investigated better! Someone at the party knows what happened!
Neck broken, 10 ribs broken, cheek bones crushed, teeth bashed out, nose broken, skull completely cracked open, abrasions all over and fingers all severely abraided... Then dumped in the road. Why put shoes, the wrong shoes, on?
I would have questiond those male "friends" of his, he was murdered by someone most likely in his circle
@rm3015
Ай бұрын
I'm sure they were investigated. Normal practice after homicide.
@scroogemcduckrich9705
Ай бұрын
@@rm3015was it ruled a homicide…. 🥴🥴🥴
@MakerInMotion
Ай бұрын
@@rm3015 I guess you aren't following the Karen Read case.
Poor young man! I feel horrible for his parents. My heart aches for them. RIP Noah. I’m praying justice is swift in this.
Terral, Ok population 382 in Jefferson Co Ok population 5400... How much experience really does the ME / Coronor, Sheriffs Dept have with this type of horrendous crime? His family deserves answers .
@AshleyMoss88
Ай бұрын
ME don’t have to have any medical license
@ak_getright9905
Ай бұрын
Yea state police should be brought in
@restinpeacejoerogan4988
Ай бұрын
Sounds like he was car surfing and whoever was in the car left him at the scene when he fell off all of the injuries add up to it
@TheLandon8806
Ай бұрын
@@restinpeacejoerogan4988why would he be naked if that were case ? Car surfing naked ?
@williamvictorian1756
Ай бұрын
Someone with a conscience I needs to come forward to tell the truth of what exactly happened to him at that party!!!! The more you hear , sounds like they never intended for Noah to leave that party alive!!!!!
This has troubled me since the first day I heard of his passing, and I am half way across the world. Whether it was his eyes that drew me in or the fact he was my sons age, something made me stop, listen and learn what I could. Nothing added up for me, the silence of the friends and the fact it got practically no media coverage. I hope the family get the answers they are searching for and slowly day by day his memory with have more smiles than tears.
Being ran over (tire mark) doesn't tell why his skull was literally fractured into two! His neck fractures, common with hangings, like a pull type injury, so falling off a roof would NOT be same injury. What is never explained with all the theories is his raw fingertips... like he was dragged, trying to hold onto something while still coherent, alive. The ATV and friend truck being "sold" is a clue to me, very suspicious. Have authorities found these two vehicles new owners and evaluated them.The amount of blood found around his organs tells me injuries were BEFORE his heart stopped pumping. Where are his clothes he wore during the ATV "rollover"? I'm guessing whatever happened, he had blood on his clothes. Why did the girls bathe him? Why was he naked, but shorts "folded" nearby? More than one person did this, others at the party may not know what happened after 3 am.. but there are at least 2+ more that know what happened to him... only covering up because they are guilty of something.
@nanaman
7 күн бұрын
@nwauntie64 Are you related to this young man? He was taken out by a group and was tortured severely by them. His family must be in so much pain over this horrible tragedy that has happened to their son.
Sounds like he was beaten,dragged,and dumped.
@Charlie_Ses
Ай бұрын
You're obviously ignorong what they said about his shoes then, which indicates he wasn't dragged
@L.D.Intheditch
Ай бұрын
@@Charlie_Ses before he was dumped. There's the asphalt marks on him.
@Jay_Bori
Ай бұрын
Maybe dragged with a atv to where thwy found him. But wow. My heart goes out to his family. Rest in peace lil bro.
@DayrusBPB
Ай бұрын
Don't think it's a hit and run with only injuries to the left side head, neck and torso and no injuries to shoes, legs and lower half of body. Plus he's naked so someone stripped him naked or stole his belongings to maybe humiliated/f*** with him. Got surprise attacked by a group with a bat first then stripped and dumped on the roadside or he was running away from the scene and got ambushed??? No signs of being tied up or held down.
@coconutpalms9758
Ай бұрын
@@DayrusBPB he couldn't be running from the scene and gotten ambushed cuz there's isn't enough blood at the scene. The hit and run can't be it, unless he got hit somewhere else and then they dropped him in the spot he was found...because the news mentioned there isn't enough blood at the crime scene. Only large amount of blood was found pooled in his skull, which was way less then the amount in the human body...means he lost alot of blood somewhere else. No blood splattered around or on road anywhere around him or in his vicinity.
Teen on teen violence is rising. Kids are angry. I guarantee that this attack was done by another boy at the party who liked or somehow “defended” his girlfriend. I am a teacher and the amount of kids who fight their classmates is insane.
@NatureLoverReturns
Ай бұрын
Agreed 1000 percent!
@luyngl_hrt
Ай бұрын
his girlfriend definitely knows what happened
I hope the Family gets Answers, and Justice.🙏🙏🙏🙏
JUSTICE FOR NOAH.R.I.P.
His poor family, knowing how horrible a death this young man had.
This young man was beaten to death and then dragged..IMO 😢😢😢
@adrianahewett9557
Ай бұрын
I said the same thing. But yes, he was probably dragged at the back of a car or truck
@scroogemcduckrich9705
Ай бұрын
seems obvious to me
@rn4l62
Ай бұрын
@@adrianahewett9557dragged behind a car, truck, or ATV ...
@tula1433
Ай бұрын
I think he was drunk and car surfing and fell and people panicked and ran
@TMCremixes
Ай бұрын
Then you didn't watch the video. It's explained. There are no drag marks, all his injuries are torso and up, and the shoes had no damage. There's just no evidence at all for concluding that the person / body was dragged.
All teens should be taught they don't have to drink to have fun
@Kwildcat13
Ай бұрын
All people should be taught this
@logansneed2882
Ай бұрын
@@Kwildcat13 Im 31 and still trying, Ive been struggling with alcohol ever since my dad passed in 2019 and I try and drink my pain away, I work but I know drinking is damaging to my mental and physical well being, but any day im off doing something im drinking.
@victoriaromero3587
Ай бұрын
@@logansneed2882 I had a alcohol problem awhile back ,my son did too, so one day I sat down with him and with so much love and compassion I told him we both had to stop drinking, I told him "Son if you have the guts to stop drinking,then I will have the guts to stop drinking too, what do you say we give it a try?"... We went what many call cold turkey and we did it! It's been close to 5 yrs and we have never again drank alcohol. On many occasions or gatherings people offer us to drink but we nicely say we'll pass... Wish you all the luck...♥️🫶🏼♥️
@cheesecuplings
Ай бұрын
Idk if you think most teens drink and kill people, but you need to get a grip on reality.
I knew from the moment I heard about this it wasn't a hit-and-run. I hope justice prevails for him.
How sad what a young and handsome young man , my heart goes out to his family, RIP
Someone murdered Noah! Friends, girlfriend, parents who provided the alcohol, or any combination of this. Those people who were at the party know what happened to Noah! Arrest the parents who provided the alcohol to the teens underage drinking, the kids will talk! The family of Noah, deserves to know the truth and what happened to him! Shame on OSBI and OHP for the way this was handled! I'm sure if this was one of the state of Oklahoma law enforcements son or daughter this case would have been solved already! DO BETTER OKLAHOMA LAW ENFORCEMENT!
I have watched several, different, reports on this particular death case. A few questions that are never asked, or revealed, is what was the blood/alcohol score for Noah? Were there drugs in his system? Did anyone leave the house party shortly after Noah left? Were all of the teenagers, at the house party, questioned? This case has some weird details and quite a few "walls" that are leaving a lot of unanswered questions.
@mozeb7978
28 күн бұрын
I believe his BAC was.14
@axxejoy
27 күн бұрын
they said he had no drugs in his system
@peggysmith4814
Күн бұрын
BA 1.4, no drugs.
*Also to note:* - His clothes were found nearby and neatly FOLDED. - There were 2 shoes on site, one on his foot and the other was off & only one of those shoes belonged to him. - (please don’t read the following if you’re bothered by gruesome details) A family member noted that his fingertips looked shredded as if he had been trying to grab or hold onto something.
@nealjones84
Ай бұрын
You sound like you really believe dogs fly lol
@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom
Ай бұрын
@@nealjones84 🧌
@CherylBattista
Ай бұрын
Shows someone close to him and it’s a sign of respect. He knew his killers😢
@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom
Ай бұрын
@@CherylBattista I don’t know about respect… maybe pity.
@CherylBattista
Ай бұрын
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom no it’s someone who knows him. A stranger ain’t folding your clothes. It’s similar to covering their face, coz they know them.
This is horrifying to know there are people out there who would do this 😢
I can’t imagine what his parents and siblings are going through. It’s bad enough to know you’ve lost your child, but to know someone or some bodies did this to him and his last moments were violent is awful. I hope these people or persons who did this to Noah get caught and get a life sentences. I don’t know whether this state allows the death penalty, but if so, they get condemned to death. Noah looked a very handsome young man. I’m sure his parents were very proud of him. My prayers go out to them and hope they have the strength to get through this. What is wrong with society today? It’s getting more and more violent month by month. It’s disturbing
Someone worked that young man over and stripped him for embarrassment....this needs to be investigated.
I would start investigating his friends,there has to be an envious person,jealousy,literally changed his attire.they murdered him elsewhere,and dumped his body.
I’m betting people he was partying with knows what happen …..sounds like he was drunk might of been in a fight or sucker punched he was either killed during the attack/fight and someone got scared and dumped his body or he fell out the back of someone’s truck/car
@roja7426
Ай бұрын
But if he got into fight, why take off all his clothes?
@Lastfirst333
Ай бұрын
Someone definitely knows!
@youngkidbaby3
Ай бұрын
@roja7426 to hide dna probably
@mmanda515
Ай бұрын
Fingerprints or blood perhaps. @roja7426
@Slyoung-mm6vg
Ай бұрын
In the video at the party, he only had shorts and shoes on, no shirt.
He was beaten to death
Getting ran over doesn't explain the extensive injuries to his finger tips, which were shredded and sliced up like he was desperately holding on to something for dear life before he died.
@classiccuneyt
Ай бұрын
Can’t even imagine that fk me he had a brutal death / struggle rip to that poor boy no one deserves that 😢
@chelly2468
Ай бұрын
@@classiccuneytagreed
@haleylong7237
25 күн бұрын
also, who in their right mind is driving down a dark road, and couldn’t see him? Clearly they would’ve had their headlights on…
This all sounds very deliberate to me! It also sounds like several different types of injuries to me as well.
I'm glad the ME didn't write it off as a hit and run.
All of these people commenting that it was Car Surfing or an ATV incident are probably people involved in this cover up. . . Totally naked? He was beaten to death, and all of these kids know what happened and whether or not they get caught, they will be punished for life by having to live with this weight on their conscience. His best friend is a liar, and this whole story is just crazy that there is no progress almost a year later. . .
@EChan-eu2co
Ай бұрын
9:52 probably not beating. Sounds like heavy equipment is involved.
@smilezx477
27 күн бұрын
Well they could have drug him by his shorts around his ankles..considering one shoe was found off the body and he probably had his shorts around one leg which is why he had grazes on one side of the body and no damage to the shorts.
@user-qo7pe7wc1o
22 күн бұрын
Was this party out in the country like around tractors? Norta Dame college student years ago was missing after leaveing a party never solved did someone want his position on football team I think he played football ? Hope they find out what happened.
JUSTICE FOR NOAH!!! Keep commenting, keep keeping this story alive. He probably was murdered by people closest to him.
So glad this case is getting more attention. Something happened at that party.
Sounds like he was moved to that area.
@LanaRioss
Ай бұрын
Noooo way!?
@keithwilliams5600
Ай бұрын
Yes way 😢😮@@LanaRioss
Such a suspicious and puzzling case. His family must be devastated. 😔
So sad..he looked like a such a promising young man..the killer must be found and punished!
my heart breaks for his family💔💔 i have a 20 year old daughter & cannot imagine the pain of losing her at all, let alone in this manner. prayers for them & for justice🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
how the result said it's undetermined cause of death, not homicide for cause of death really baffles me
How was this video just released today yet there's so much missing info? I've seen photos of the crime scene where circles are drawn on the pavement to indicate where his teeth had been found, as well as indication of where his body was discovered in relation to those teeth. There was also a map released that showed he was less than a mile away from the party. I think it was only about a block or two away, on a rural country road.
@XpurlX
Ай бұрын
It sounds to me like they kick him from a car alive and then drove over him to kill him! Maybe someone interrupted him while being with someone’s lady?
The people who know what happened need to have an ounce of compassion for this poor family and come forward with what they know.
@Hunterblackwell
29 күн бұрын
If I had to guess there are very few people who actually know what happened besides the person who murdered him. If it was a large group, someone would have cracked by now. I’ll bet yea it’s one crazy person who was mad jealous of his ability to pull woman. I’m also thinking maybe a police officers kid, because it seems as if a lot is being covered up…
There are multiple people who know what happened and one of them will tell.
@Lastfirst333
Ай бұрын
Yep it’s a matter of time but it will happen!
May this young man rest in peace.
They need to take everyone's cell phones that was at the party!!
@TheBerylknight
Ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure they already looked at all the phones. That's how they found out he had a fight with his girlfriend, among many other things. By reading the text messages of those at the party.
@kimmartinez9680
Ай бұрын
@@TheBerylknightI hope so.
@jazzyg530
Ай бұрын
@@TheBerylknighthe didn't have a girlfriend. Just friends that were girls.
@TheBerylknight
Ай бұрын
@@jazzyg530 Isn't that what a girlfriend is, a friend that's a girl?
@RaeCRami
Ай бұрын
The sad thing is they probably didn't text about it but just talked and make sure they don't speak.
This is DISGUSTING to me!! I am soo sad and sorry for this Beautiful young man and his family. This was MURDER! Find theses despicable, monsters and put them under the prison!!!
Those who know what happened and did this will never rest in peace. They will one day have to face the light.
@tengallonhat2741
Ай бұрын
The youtuber "Murder She shed" has several episodes on Noah, and they're excellent.
The ones that did this needs to be punished to the full extent of the law
So heart breaking! 😢 My heart ❤goes out to his family! 🙏
19 years old young man, It’s either a hazing or he was ambushed and tortured. That is nothing close to a hit and run
@Jasmine215100
20 күн бұрын
Could he have also died of acute alcohol poisoning too? Was that a contributing factor?
I believe they beat him and drug him from something somewhere and then dumped him where he was found
Prayers to Noah’s family. His friends & everyone at the party need to be repeatedly question, someone knows something. Rest In Peace Noah.
They could have held him by his ankles when they dragged him, the shoes wouldn't be damaged and the majority of injuries would be from the waist up.
@scroogemcduckrich9705
Ай бұрын
i think he was drug behind a vehicle
@kimmartinez9680
Ай бұрын
@@scroogemcduckrich9705yes agreed. They said in another video. That his fingertips were shredded up.
@garybregel1572
Ай бұрын
It sounds to me like after the dragging and beating they then laid him on the road and ran over him to make it look like he got hit by a car. Being drunk who knows what they were thinking. They were trying to cover up an accident that they caused or a murder.
@Tw1nke11ph1ch
Ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly 😢
Give me a break, I can't believe they haven't interrogated his gf and friends within his circle yet! How incompetent are the ME & Sheriff's Dept? It's obvious he was beaten dragged and dumped!!!
I still think the kids were goofing around naked car surfing, Noah fell off and the car ran him over. I didn’t even realize that was a thing, but apparently it is. Nothing makes sense in this case and the kids know something, IMO.
@foxywhitetip7387
12 күн бұрын
Doesn’t explain the fingertips tho .:
There are people that know in that small of a town. Cops aren’t showing their hands if they’re smart. Sad. 😢
You don’t walk away from anywhere naked. If his shorts were not on him but nearby, that’s a clue of possibility foul play.
The truth will come out. Too many people involved, someone will eventually break or accidently slip up.
Couldn’t who ever was responsible put the shoes on after the death??
@mmanda515
Ай бұрын
Agreed. Took clothing off then put shoes on. Clothing could have had fingerprints or blood on them.
@jefftaylor844
28 күн бұрын
The killer put them on.
@honey3519
27 күн бұрын
@jefftaylor844 how do you know
@avid4jdepp
27 күн бұрын
@@honey3519 it’s an assumption, do you have a better idea?
The person or person's who did this know how and why he died.
One question, I saw in the autopsy report that his name is listed as Noah Alexander Nichols. I thought it was Noah Presgrove?
@martinskursiss4769
2 күн бұрын
Saw one of the videos ,on his tombstone there was middle name Alexander but not sure where Nichols coming from 😮
Could he have been dragged by his feet/legs? Maybe that would explain the lack of injuries on his legs, and it would explain why the ribs on the top of his torso were broken. I think Noah was murdered.
@kristykewl69
Ай бұрын
But where is the blood?
@Bella-ht5jb9he3z
Ай бұрын
@@kristykewl69He was put there on the highway I think. He was beaten elsewhere. His family said the friend's said they don't know where his clothes are.
@Charlie_Ses
Ай бұрын
Love how people make such strong assertions without any examination of the evidence at all, jeez
@mayaa.1405
Ай бұрын
@@Charlie_Ses Respectfully, I didn’t make an assertion. I asked a question and presented a possible explanation.
@EChan-eu2co
Ай бұрын
Some folks in an earlier video suggested possible car surfing turned dragging may cause the injuries stated. The posts were from people who said they did car surfing in their misspent youth. Seems a lot of people with misspent youth, car surfing isn't legal so I suspect some of them might be fudging their ages and it's a in fad right now?🤷
reading through comments, it's so crazy to see that even many of us who have no experience as police officers and investigators, we all CLEARLY see this was a homicide! is right in front of their noses! that's the problem with small towns, there's so much corruption, and who knows manyve one of the kids who did it is family or friend of someone in the department, that's why the delay in the investigation
What about his fingers..they said his fingers were lacerated! That wasn't in the Autopsy. So sorry for this family
The cops, detectives and coroner are 3 brain cells in a pod they obviously can’t put 2 and 2
@scroogemcduckrich9705
Ай бұрын
corruption
This heinous crime makes me beyond sick!!! I have a son close to his age, and they'd have to lock me up because I would be OUT OF MY MIND with rage!! Shame on the kids and the police force for trying to bury this crime!! The truth will come out eventually hopefully. Obviously, this young man had alot going for him! This is a HATE crime no doubt!!
19 years old...so young. Poor guy. His poor parents. Awful.
This is so disturbing. The poor family doesn't get any closure.
I'm kinda cynical and wonder if he really made it back to the party after the ATV accident
@TMCremixes
Ай бұрын
I believe there's video footage of him at the party from after the ATV accident.
@jazzyg530
Ай бұрын
@@TMCremixesYes, there is and he's smiling. The ATV accident wasn't as bad as some made it out to be. It was a side by side and it's since been sold.
@billybilly6574
29 күн бұрын
@jazzyg530 the parent who provided alcohol to the underage teens drinking should be arrested, these kids would talk! I find it suspicious that they sold the atv!
@TMCremixes
29 күн бұрын
@@billybilly6574 nobody provided any kids with alcohol. Having alcoholic beverages in your own home at a private party is not a crime and when the kids drink it when you're away is not a crime either. If your 18 year old drinks chlorine that's in your home, that's not your fault either. The fact that people drank alcohol at that party is not what caused this crime either. Please get rid of this ridiculous woke american mindset of trying to blame everyone for the faults of others. People drink alcohol all the time, party kids too, every weekend, and in 0,0032% of the cases a murder happens afterwards. Please grow up!
@Ggirl1990
26 күн бұрын
That’s interesting that the atv has been sold! I think a female folded his shorts.
Wow i Just found about this case i Hope they find the Person that did this act my respects to the family and Friends
That ATV needs to be looked at--who owned it, who drove it--it may be the murder weapon.
This is a devastating set of injuries, a cliff diving injury? He fell head first, no blood at the scene. Several people know what happened, the ones who dragged his body. It is hard to tell if they placed his body out of respect or if they wanted to make it look like a random sexually motivated crime. This one is tough, but ruling out homicide? Maybe so that his "friends" do not feel threatened to talk if they are not suspects
There is absolutely nothing in this world he coulda done to deserve that! Who could hate him so much?! This makes no sense. He was just a kid!
Me thinks the party goers accused Noah of something. And then the mob mentality went into “over-drive”
OMG there was a chain & his tooth nearby? CLEARLY still a homicide IMO. Who are the cops covering up for? Ridiculous
@smilezx477
27 күн бұрын
I think the chain was his necklace he was wearing.
Horrible! Someone knows I'm surprised nobody has talked yet. Poor kid.
*FOULLLLL PLLLAAAYYY*
@RaeCRami
Ай бұрын
Yes!
How could it be a hit n run if he’s found naked ?