Automotive Buffing Pads explained - History, Types, Using and Caring For
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Mike Phillips and Yancy Martinez are back LIVE! Today's Topic: Buffing Pads, an in depth look at the types of pads, history, how to use and care for them so they last.
Pad lines: Lake Country Manufacturing, Buff and Shine Mfg, Meguiar's, RUPES USA, Inc., Griot's Garage
Shop Buffing Pads - www.autogeek.net/foam-polishi...
All about buffing pads
Buffing Pad History
1965 - Meguiar’s introduces the first foam buffing pad
1970’s/80’s - Meguiar’s introduces their Soft Buff pads for the DA Sander
1980’s Meguiar’s introduces a 3 pad system in their Professional Detailer Line
2007 - Lake Country files patent for CCS foam pads
2010 - Lake Country introduces the Hydro-Tech Low Profile Pads - 7/8” thin
2011 - Meguiar’s introduced the first Microfiber DA Correction System
2012 - Lake Country introduces the Ultra-Fiber Microfiber pads (yellow fibers)
2013 - RUPES introduces their blue and yellow microfiber pads
2013 - Meguiar’s introduced an updated Microfiber DA Correction System
2014 - Meguiar’s introduces their thin Foam Buffing Disc - 11/16” or 17.5mm
2015 - Griot’s Garage introduces their BOSS microfiber and THIN foam buffing pads
2016 - Lake Country introduces 2nd generation microfiber pads
2016 - Buff & Shine introduces Uro-Fiber Pads
2017 - Lake Country introduces the THINPRO buffing pads - 11/16” or 17.5mm
2017 - RUPES introduces their thin foam Mille foam and microfiber pads
Other topics
The Porter Cable Wood Sander - where it all started
www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...
The history behind polishing paint with a DA Polisher
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Meguiar’s discovered that the buffing pad they made and sold for AIR POWERED DA SANDERS in body shops also fit the spindle on the Porter Cable WOOD SANDER
2010 - Why it’s important to clean your pads often
1. Spent product
2. Removed paint
Foam Pads vs Microfiber Pads - Fibers are a form of abrasive
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Why we use microfiber pads to CUT when using orbital polishers but why we shouldn’t use microfiber pads to FINISH
Good rule of thumb when using an AIO - stick with foam polishing pads by Mike Phillips
www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...
Micro-marring with foam pads
Foam cutting pads have a SHARPNESS to them. This can lead to micro-marring on soft paint.
Production Detailing using an AIO or one-step cleaner/wax
When detailing for money - you should have multiple packages so you have a package or process for every customer and their BUDGET and NEEDS. Not everyone is looking for a multiple-step Show Car Detail for their 2014 Honda 4-Door Accord.
When it comes to you One-Step Package, it STARTS with NOT promising to remove 100% of all the swirls and scratches. That’s Package 2 or 3.
You Package 1 is using an AIO and doing the normal 8 section passes and whatever comes out comes out. Thus you don’t need to use a foam cutting pad as you never promised 100% paint correction. And too often if you use a foam cutting pad - the pad will leave micro-marring. If you’re ONE STEP product leaves micro-marring and forces you to re-polish the car with a less aggressive pad to remove the micro-marring - your one-step package just became a 2-step package and now you’re losing money.
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Not to many youngsters are interested in things that require manual labor good information thanks
I think the history you often provide in your videos makes a huge difference. It gives newbies and pros alike a reason behind why they do what they do. Having a reason is how one gets great results, learns to experiment, and makes a process their own. Thank you!
Thanks for all the feedback everyone. -Mike Phillips
@phimccracken1576
3 жыл бұрын
Don’t thank us - Thankyou 😀
I took Mike's class with a group of newbies and we all learned more than we could have imagined. He had every kind of polisher, pad, and product for us to try and made us understand the essentials. We all migrated from one guy's car to the next, and everybody got paint correction/swirls removed. A couple of us got ceramic coated. Highly recommend.
@bigrollin
2 жыл бұрын
Where did you sign up and how much was it?
@benfarrell5034
2 жыл бұрын
@@bigrollin they offer classes through the website all the time, they are usually in Florida.
I love the history of Detailing! Meguiar's was really there from the start, that's why it's my number 1 brand in my arsenal !!. Thank you Mike for his superb explanations and details. It was great, super interesting !!! 👍 👍 👍
@marybetheby5184
2 жыл бұрын
Yes!Every product they have offered is super consistent and dependable.Been using them for 30 years now at my work and at home as a hobbyist.
Never realized how much there is to pads. Learned a lot for my own projects. Thank you!
Great video. Thanks. This answered a lot of the doubts I had. It is also nice to hear the history of pads too. Keep it up guys!
@autogeek
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
Awesome video. After watching the knowledge, history, and passion in this video I'll never order from anywhere else.
@autogeek
4 жыл бұрын
Right on!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I've learned a lot from this video. When I learned how to polish cars, it was way back in the days of lacquer finishes and wool bonnets, using machines similar to the vintage Rupes in the video. I've recently ordered a new DA and will be purchasing dozens of foam pads.
@greggriffin3242
2 жыл бұрын
An u spell out that clod or Claude’s full name for me
Incredible walk through pad history. Very informative content.
I like your advice. Your a great teacher to us newbies
Love the demonstration at the beginning! With tips!
I’m honestly surprised these videos don’t have more views and likes.
@phimccracken1576
3 жыл бұрын
Yanzy Clown Issues 😀
@noconspiracytheoriesplease.745
Жыл бұрын
The videos are too long to draw more viewers.
Another great video! The fact that there’s only 63k followers on this channel is shocking considering the information and history shared. Thanks!
@autogeek
4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
Wow the buffing tips techniques in the beginning were awesome! Bling Bling!
@autogeek
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
Fantastic video, enjoyed the history lesson.
@autogeek
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
I ordered 18 pads from You. CCS 6.5 inch orange and white. You can never have enough pads. Thank You, Yancy and Mike for a great video!
@autogeek
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@J1Z06
3 жыл бұрын
Autogeek I will always keep an open mind and try other pads. These are my go to pads. Looking forward to a new video on Thursday
Great video! Thank you for all of the educational info!
@autogeek
3 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure! - Yancy
It's pretty cool how things have come.
Just the video I was looking for!!!
Thanks for the video. I enjoyed the history with all that.
@autogeek
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you Mike 🙏🏻
That Rupes vander is super cool!
Great video. I’m a weekend warrior detailer and these videos have really helped me step up my game. Thank you!!!
@autogeek
3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
Thanks for the tips!
Hi Mike, how many wool/microfiber pads would you need to buff a whole car? How would you clean the pads between sections without compressed air? How often would you charge to a fresh new pad? Thanks. Great video.
Great Video Guys!
@autogeek
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
Do you find pads with abrupt edges vs rounded edges “stalls” a polisher easier on shaped panels? I’ve noticed the Rupes pads stall easier than my Mags or Other pads with rounded edges. Love your thoughts on the.
amazing video! thank you.
@autogeek
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! - Yancy
I detail my own vehicles including my 30' motorhome. However, I'm having problems with my motorhome. I'm using a Meguiar’s D.A. that seems to be to small for the large areas of the motorhome. What do you recommend for pads to polish and wax applications? Rotory or D.A. machines?
Are the m205 and m105 also good to use to remove swirl marks.
Is there a difference in pads when using a rotary or orbit polisher?
I know this is off the beaten path, but when hand sanding, generally how long does any grit last before you have to replace it with a new piece?
For final polish should you use sheepskin covered pad for final glaze
I painted my old car using rust oleum sprayed from a LPHV paint gun. The job turned out awesome. I would like to wet sand and buff the car. I have a 7” polisher but don’t know what pads I need. Please help steer me in the correct direction! Thanks I’m wet sanding with 2000 grit and have McGuire ultimate polishing compond
How do you clean the pads for next time or is that necessary?
That synthetic wool kicks ass !
How do you know when its a soft or hard paint?
What pads would you use for polishing and waxing gelcoat on a boat?
Black stuff comes off onto the pads could also be if the car has single-stage paint and especially if it’s an older or classic car with its original paint. Those single stage paints sometimes had lead in them and the dark on the pad is the lead from the paint.
Excelente👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Awesome video
@autogeek
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you!
@autogeek
4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
Want a battery power machine system for a weekend warrior for a Ram 2011 maintenance Whats you’re suggestion
That pad cleaner works great. The only thing I found it only does an OK job on is Collinite 845
Mike If you want to preserve those old pads for a showcase Just soak it really good with fabric protectant and they will last forever as long as they’re not handle too much
was curious on polishing/compounding hard paint is it wise to go with a more aggressive pad before going with a more aggressive compound? or Vise versa? Thanks for your time.
@autogeek
Жыл бұрын
On hard paint, typically a compound is needed so using a less aggressive polish won't do too much to remove defects. You could however get away with sometimes using wool blend pads like RUPES DA Yellow Wool pads with a polish to remove defects, so the opposite - an aggressive pad with a fine polish (sometimes works!). Just really depends on the paint and the defects, doing some test spots will determine the route you will end up taking.
@eppyz
Жыл бұрын
@@autogeek Thank You for answering my question was very helpful.👍👍
@autogeek
Жыл бұрын
@@eppyz Absolutely! We're glad we can help.
4:58 - what if you have a glass coating on? :)
Man Mike is a giant. Yancy was standing next to him and just realized how tall he is. He's so knowledgeable. It would be so cool to meet him someday and just pick his brain for a day
@autogeek
3 жыл бұрын
LOL Giant Mike! I have been picking his brain for 10+ years and still have a lot to learn from him - Yancy
drj Westfield Wisconsin where do you do the test spot 0n the car?
Can u guys make some more videos on product reviews and microfiber plz🥺not just paint correction? Also i left i thumbs up just bc im nice!👍🏼( and i subscribed! )
I painted my old car using rust oleum sprayed from a LPHV paint gun. It turned out awesome. I want to wet sand and buff it now. I have a 7” electric polisher but don’t know what pad I should use. I’m wet sanding with 2000 grit and have McGuires ultimate polishing compound. Could you suggest what type pads I should use?
@autogeek
2 жыл бұрын
We are not familiar with sanding that type of paint specifically so you will want to do some research. However, to remove sanding marks in general, you would want to use twisted wool pads on a rotary polisher. After using wool pads and a rotary polisher to remove the sanding marks, it would be best to follow up with a dual action polisher and foam pads for the polishing stages as this method would finish out the best.
thanks for sharing.. I am now more educated :)
@autogeek
4 жыл бұрын
Happy to help
What is the difference between the Griots Garage G9 Polisher & FLEX 3401 Polisher ? Which is better for starting out with and why? Take in consideration the cost difference.
@autogeek
3 жыл бұрын
The G9 is a random orbit polisher where the 3401 is a forced rotation random orbit polisher. G9 you can stop pad where the 3401 you cant. For a beginner I would suggest the G9. Hope that helps - Yancy
that guy behind the camera needs to shut up
what do you use the used pads with no sharpness for after they have lost THAT sharpness it came with when new?
@autogeek
4 жыл бұрын
After you WASH and dry them, the sharpness is restored. -Mike Phillips
@jlmagana
4 жыл бұрын
@@autogeek Thank you Mr, Phillips
Best buffer to buy
What RPM is good/best
do autogeek sell 3" foam pads
Aloha; I'm brand new to this, am a 100% disabled Combat Marine on disability, and haven't even purchased polishing equipment yet. I stumbled onto this video, and have learned a lot (I subscribed)! So how do you tell if a paint is hard paint or soft paint? I have a 2008 Chrysler 300C AWD Hemi and a 1992 Ford Bronco EB 4x4 that I want to detail (good practice)! Is there any specific equipment that you can recommend... or think that I should stay away from? I'm thinking this might even be a way to make a little extra money when my pain level isn't too high (money is very tight)! Thank you Jonathan K Smith "Sandman" SSgt USMC Injured/Retired
@davefordyce2127
Жыл бұрын
Hello sir, I can't help you much with your questions but I did want to stop and thank you for your service!! Much Respect and God bless.
Where can I buy these pads?
tough to learn from. I'm trying to find out what pads to use with the porter cable 7424xp ONLY. As a beginner, I need to know what to buy, what to use. Living in virginia now, my red camry has taken a BEATING from the rocks from the CONSTANT road construction. I have to claybar, then compound, then polish, then paint chip fill in, then wax. At least I know the steps now, but it's a BEAR to find out what pads to buy
Makita have just come out with a polisher/sander that use's a 3" foam pad
Wow super
When yourself went to the Meguiar's class, did you go too?
Hi is that a glass cleaning cloth
Wish you would make a video on all the tyoes of damage to headlights. I swear my wife's bmw has cobwebs like a spider has been living inside it.
i wonder if hot water promotes the velcro to come off
What's the best foam pad for cutting?
@rayzay95487
4 жыл бұрын
Meaning for step 1
@nicorallysport
4 жыл бұрын
Meguiar's WRFC7 for rotary, or DFC5 for dual action. Are really good pads, good cut and finish! Then more aggressive there are rupes blue foam pad "coarse" or lake country HDO blue or rupes UHS but will not finish as well. But a better cut would be with a wool pad or microfiber.! Like lake country low lint lambswool pads, or meguiar's xtra cut disc microfiber pads. Where again a hybrid lake country foamed wool pad purple or blue. Mike will respond better than me!
@autogeek
4 жыл бұрын
It depends on the TOOL you're using. There are LOTS of different tools on the market and even more pads to go with them. Let me know what you're using for a polisher and I'll tell you what I think is a great foam cutting pad for it. -Mike Phillips
Do pad washers wear out foam pads?
@autogeek
4 жыл бұрын
If used correctly no
Swirl removers were put in the late 60’s. It was a black liquid
Craigslist classic and antique cars and trucks
I was told they create heat is this true
What is the 8 pases means
@autogeek
3 жыл бұрын
Here you go - www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-to-articles-by-mike-phillips/109747-definition-section-pass-mike-phillips.html
@1:04:05homie got cut off (so let's talk about how often you clean your pads) 🤣😂🤣 dang sounded like he had a good 18 year old story 🤣 jacked up Mike
Silver polishing cloth
Good information but the camera guy constantly interrupting is super annoying.
Why didn't you just show what pads needed from start to finish and what compounds
A pop
This conversation type type format takes awhile to get to the meat of the topic. Not optimal for for ADHD or information dense. Good content thought.
Had to stop listening to all the Yacking. Just wanted to find out if there is any significance to different color of foam pads. And different textures and patterns on the foam. I'll find out somewhere else.
Camera guy is kind of annoying. Just let the guy talk. Damn
The guy running the camera is a clown. Needs to shut his yapper
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Almost 2 hours in what could have been said in 15-20 minutes, too much "filler opinion" just get to the talking points and stay on task please. You seem knowledgeable but your message is all over the place. Practice first then stick to the script - thanks