This video shows the real difference between Australia and the USA. We are willing to sacrifice to make our country a better place.

@brianahern5239

Жыл бұрын

Trouble is the only people with guns now are the criminals and we have zero protection. Imagine if all the responsible Americans handed in their guns ? It would be a crime spree and blood bath.

@Kalashboy420

Жыл бұрын

we also gave up our freedom, we dont even have freedom of speech in this country lmao.

@DaveWhoa

Жыл бұрын

@@Kalashboy420 yes we do, just not hate speech. See Westboro Baptist Church and the KKK in America to see how well 100% freedom of speech works

@DaveWhoa

Жыл бұрын

it wasn't even a "sacrifice", I didn't have to give up anything. Farmers still have their guns, sports shooters still have their guns, and if you want to shoot semi-automatic/automatics you can join the military.

@1911GreaterThanALL

Жыл бұрын

Australia regulates airsoft as firearms. Australia makes it a felony to possess pepperspray. That doesn't make the country better.

Americans are like, "everything in Australia is trying to kill you, crocodiles, snakes, spiders and so many dangerous animals, what WONT KILL YOU in Australia?" - My answer.... "Going to school in Australia WONT kill you" - I rest my case!

@1911GreaterThanALL

Жыл бұрын

American wild life is dangerous as well.

@kenchristie9214

Жыл бұрын

The animals that will most likely kill you are domestic, especially cattle and horses.

@S1D3W1ND3R015

Жыл бұрын

School shootings in America are so statistically rare that kids are more at risk going to school than in the school. In fact school is statistically the safest place to be as violent home invasions happen far far more than even a school shooting threat. Let alone actual shooting. But keep drinking the agenda Kool aid.

@utha2665

Жыл бұрын

@@1911GreaterThanALL But the schools aren't, what point are you trying to make here?

@1911GreaterThanALL

Жыл бұрын

@@utha2665 The schools are. Highschool for me was full of examples of resource officers making arrests on people with drugs and weapons while on school grounds. Meanwhile I wasn't allowed to defend myself.

Looking back I’m still surprised that John Howard passed this legislation. He was very conservative, it is the only thing I’ve ever agreed with him on. Sadly I don’t think a conservative government would pass it today in similar circumstances.

@JayWhy1964

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I'd like to think he did it based on a moral obligation, but we all know politicians choose to back something that favours their re-election possibilities.

@sissysass401

Жыл бұрын

So lefties are the only ones who do good…..what a sad sack…..Labour Party were even more reticent passing those laws than liberals….they fight mandatory sentencing laws for criminal gun usage to this day.

@Notthatkaren4207

Жыл бұрын

I agree that it wouldn't pass through parliament today because, love him or hate him, John Howard had balls to do what he said he was going to do and that's why he was Prime Minister for 11 years. Unfortunately politicians today only look as far as the next election. Sad but true.

@littleflick

Жыл бұрын

@@sissysass401 mandatory sentencing is stupid.

@lencooke944

Жыл бұрын

@@Notthatkaren4207 Agreed ... to a point. John Howard was the most pernicious Australian politician in my lifetime. Sure, there have been more overt right wing Prime Ministers, namely Tony Abbott, but make no mistake, John Howard was an archconservative, dressed, at times, in moderates' clothes. Howard was one of our most hateful, lying, racist, homophobic, religious extremist and win at all costs politicians. I feel he has only one redeeming legacy. Fortunately for him, that redeeming action is a very big one. Whilst I dislike Howard for his mobilisation of our nation's wealth to the upper echelons, away from working Australians, I do very much respect the stand he took on gun control after Port Arthur. For this I will forever respect his conviction and appreciate his service to our country for achieving this. Rob Borbidge, on the other hand, was a serviceable Premier of Queensland who was probably headed for defeat at the next election that he faced. However, Borbidge was a leader of integrity, and his actions were based on what he thought was right at the time. I appreciate a true 'conviction politician' of any persuasion. Borbidge didn't pretend to be things he wasn't. You took him at his word, and he pretty much stuck to it. Borbidge was a leader that you took at face value, Howard was a schemer, a liar and a wolf in sheep's clothing. Still, I respect them both at some level, I just respect one far more than I respect the other.

Aussie here. With so many NRA and ordinary people in the USA terrified of getting their high powered guns taken, also having to register their guns for farmers and sports shooters, and mental health checks etc like here in Australia, very sadly I can’t imagine gun control will ever happen. But one day in years to come I seriously hope it does for their own lives and those of their children. I can’t comprehend how so many adults and especially school children being killed how they just won’t budge on gun control. It’s very sad. NRA and Philip Van Cleave are so unbelievably blind. I’m an Aussie from Planet X, and apparently I’m not even human 🤔

@Glenn-ei3xp

Жыл бұрын

I find it mind blowing that children in the US have active shooter drills in schools. And then say they don’t have gun problems. 🤦

@bernadettelanders7306

Жыл бұрын

@@Glenn-ei3xp I can’t comprehend so many school shootings either. As parents, siblings, aunts, uncles, grandparents etc, it’s a wonder there hasn’t been an uprising to them at least to have gun control. Let alone all the other shootings we probably never hear of - I can’t comprehend why, how they think Re guns m, when they’ve seen it work in other countries. As for their second amendment, as Aussie , now living in America Jim Jeffries comedian referred to the word amendment, ‘ do the understand the meaning of the word. They’ve changed other amendments, but won’t budge on the second - insanity. Aren’t their children’s lives more important?

@1911GreaterThanALL

Жыл бұрын

High powered? Define High powered. I don't think you have a clue what you are talking about.

@hailrider8188

Жыл бұрын

Legislators have made schools gun free zones. That should be a clue for you.

@bernadettelanders7306

Жыл бұрын

@@hailrider8188 yes in 1990. The Crime Control Act of 1990 USA (Public Law 101-647), the Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990, makes it illegal for any individual to knowingly possess a firearm in a school zone. The 2022 calendar year broke the record for the most school shootings in over four decades and marked one of the most violent years for youth ages 12-17. As of Dec. 20, there were 300 shooting incidents on school grounds so far in 2022, compared to 250 in 2021 and 114 in 2020, according to the publicly-accessible K-12 School Shooting Database. A decade earlier, 2010 saw 15 school shootings. DAILY GUN VIOLENCE IMPACTING PEOPLE OF ALL AGES IN THE U.S. Every day, 321 people are shot in the United States. 111 people are shot and killed 210 survive gunshot injuries. The last school shooting we had in Australia was was at Modbury High School in Adelaide on May 7, 2012, which resulted in no deaths and no injuries. And that was before we had gun control. I know where I’d prefer my children and myself grew up, here in Australia.

Hiya! I grew up in NZ where even after Port Arthur we regarded our gun laws as strict enough. We had a massacre of non family members in 1990 in Aramoana but after investigation it was found that the shooter gave multiple warning signs in advance that should have been noted by police and led to his guns being confiscated and his being referred for mental health help. My pacifist Mum was a target shooter, and my Dad was a former British Army Para. I grew up thinking our gun laws were OK (license needed to buy guns or ammunition, separate licenses for handguns or semiauto guns, laws about storing and transporting guns, have to prove to police you had a legitimate reason to own all firearms you bought, and having to prove to police you were knowledgeable about gun laws and a safe person to own a gun. Before issuing a license the police would confidentially interview your coworkers, immediate family, exes and circle of friends to find out if anybody you knew had serious worries about you owning guns. Even when a gun license was issued, it could be revoked or suspended at any time. I knew a couple of people who had their guns temporarily seized by police after bad breakups.) Roll on to 2019 and a racist paranoid foreign terrorist live streamed himself murdering more than 50 people in my hometown. Less than 6 weeks later Parliament passed laws that outright banned handguns and semiauto rifles more powerful than .22 calibre. Almost no one argued.The rules for gun ownership in general were greatly tightened. The public cooperated.

@xymonau2468

Жыл бұрын

Yes, and it was an Australian who knew he could get weapons and attack Muslims there more easily. I'm so sorry that happened, but I'm very glad things changed.

@S1D3W1ND3R015

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes. Nothing better than the good old "I'm from the government and I'm here to help". As if the 20th century didn't teach us that governments caused over 150 million people to die and yet you guys wonder why we hold the 2A and the Constitution as the Supreme law of the land. Smdh. History repeats itself

@xymonau2468

Жыл бұрын

@@S1D3W1ND3R015 Gun lovers seem to lose their minds and powers of reasoning. Oh, well, when your own kids are shot, no point in whining about it. You like guns, at whatever cost. Meanwhile, in Australia, we can walk down the street safely.

@S1D3W1ND3R015

Жыл бұрын

@@xymonau2468 Well considering more kids die from drugs in school that are caused by open borders or alcoholic drunk drivers abusing two privileges. But whatever. You do you boo. Don't come crawling around when your government does something you don't like and you HAVE to do it.

@xymonau2468

Жыл бұрын

@@S1D3W1ND3R015 Making up statistics is called lying. Show me the stats if those are real. And tell me something, when did two wrongs make a right? If there are more people being killed one way than another, does that mean you can't stop the preventable thing? You just don't try? The only reason you want guns is you like to bully people, because that's the nature of American society. They admire bullies. You love guns more than life.

I feel so blessed living in Australia .. Safe taking my children to school.. Safe walking down the street When will the U.S.A learn 🤔

America will never change, forget it....I'm so grateful to John Howard for what he did 💪

I remember the first amnesty after Port Arthur and I was sorely pissed when my father rounded up all our rifles and took them to the cop shop to hand in. I loved my guns. We lived on a farm at the time and target practice or rabbit control was a great way to pass spare time. It didn't take long to get over it and we soon found other ways to entertain ourselves. Turns out we never needed guns to protect ourselves from bogeymen or aliens after-all. Society is truly safer with the controls Australia introduced.

@1911GreaterThanALL

Жыл бұрын

Is it? 1. Wright St Bikie murders 8 October 1999 Adelaide, Australia 3d/2i 2. Monash University shooting 21 October 2002 Melbourne 2d/5i 3. Oakhampton Heights Shooting 20 March 2005 Hunter Valley, New South Wales 4d 4. 2011 Hectorville siege 29 April 2011 Hectorville, South Australia 3d/3i 5. Hunt family murders 9 September 2014 Lockhart, New South Wales 5d 6. Wedderburn shooting 23 October 2014 Wedderburn, Victoria 3d 7. 2014 Sydney hostage crisis 15-16 December 2014 Sydney, New South Wales 3d/1i 8. 2017 Brighton siege 5 June 2017 Brighton, Melbourne 2d/3i 9. Osmington shooting 11 May 2018 Osmington, Western Australia 7d 10. Melbourne triple shooting 1 March 2019 Melbourne 1d/2i 11. 2019 Darwin shooting 4 June 2019 Darwin, Northern Territory 4d/1i 12. Melbourne nightclub shooting 14 April 2019 Melbourne 2d/4i

@Preview43

Жыл бұрын

@@1911GreaterThanALL You may as well list all the car crashes we have every day. Of course we still have dickheads with guns but we ARE safer none the less.

@Maxiakt

Жыл бұрын

You gun nutters arescary and the reason why your kids are getting shot at school

@Maxiakt

Жыл бұрын

Why didn't he just get a gun licence like most others did .

@Preview43

Жыл бұрын

@@Maxiakt Because we didn't really need them after looking at the big picture and also after losing a few farmer neighbours to suicide by rifle, it was probably a better option anyway. Like Jim Jefferies put it... one day you're happy... then you're sad.. and then unghh!

It is so scary and frustrating that 50% of Americans think like that guy.

@AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV

Жыл бұрын

They don't. The NRA is not even representative of its members. Most gun owners in america support some kind of gun control

John Oliver saying "whoop-dee-f**king-doo" to a former Prime Minister makes me laugh everytime. I hope Howard was in on the context otherwise I'm really not sure how he'd take that 😂

I've commented on this in another channel reacting to the same show, but worth saying again. Even the most left-leaning voters, who in general hate(d) everything that John Howard stood for, still give mass respect to him for his role in pushing gun control through. By far his greatest political achievement and one that has the support of the overwhelming majority of Aussies from all sides of the political spectrum. Sure, there are still a couple of outliers whinging about it but the support is damn near universal.

@RodneyMcMinge

Жыл бұрын

You don't have to be from the left to hate Jack Boot Johnny........but you are very correct .

@heffatheanimal2200

Жыл бұрын

Funnily enough there were angry protests and near riots when it was proposed and during the implementation. Very nearly didnt happen. I always hated howard, but am still really thankful to him for that

6:36 funnily we fully have pool safety fencing laws in Australia too , it's got to the point that basically only drunk males in there late teens early twenties swimming in an ocean or river at night who drown

Maybe someone should send this to the Liberal Party.. so they can learn to be real Aussies again

Was never a fan of Howard, but he earnt some respect from me implementing these changes - against the wishes of strong factions within his own party.

It was amazing! That to me is John Howard’s legacy to our country! 🇦🇺❤️

Good Ole Phillip sounds like a flat Earther. I'd spent 12 months in the Army when the gun controls were bought in and I thought it was a bloody good idea, and today I'm grateful for a 'mainly' peaceful Country I live in, although I'm in Brisbane and if I ever get done by some of these bloody kids terrorising the suburbs, I'll probably end up in prison.

It WAS a big deal for a conservative Prime Minister and government to change our gun laws the way Howard managed. As a non-liberal party voter, I say well done to him. He left an extraordinary legacy for Australia.

Matt I can vividly remember hearing about the Dunblaine Massacre, and I could not believe someone would do that to those young innocent children and their very brave teachers. To have the Massacre happen in Port Arthur happen a little more than 6 weeks later just knock the wind out of most Australians. To hear how the gunman (I refuse to mention his name) gunned down a young Mother, Nannette Mikac (36) and her youngest daughter Madeline Mikac (3) and then hunted down her other daughter, Allannah Mikac (6) who ran to hide behind a tree only to be shot in the back of the head by the gunman sickened Australians. Gunning down people enjoying their meal in a cafe, visitors just driving into the site gunned down for nothing. I personally did not particularly care for John Howard or his conservative views on almost all issues, but I will give credit where credit is truly due John Howard did one of the greatest things, in my opinion, for all Australians for generations to come. Policial foes meet with cool heads and when the legislation was tabled in Parliament it was passed with the overwhelming support of all political parties because it was the right thing to do. Yes, there were parts of the community who were angry at the proposed changes but in the end, there was never going to be 100% of the population who would be happy with the changes, they learnt to live with it. This is not to say that those that opposed the changes were not horrified by what had happened at Port Arthur they were, we all were. I will never ever forget where I was that fateful Sunday afternoon.

One of the most unsettling videos I've watched was of an American school class (secondary school) reacting when the fire alarm went off. They all sit at their desks instead of evacuating; apparently setting off the alarm is a ploy and they shoot the children as they come into the hallway. Pumped up kicks. One thing that I truly admire Howard for.

As of today, 15 February 2023, there have been 63 gun massacres in the USA in 2023. Game,set and match to Australia 🇦🇺

@becsterbrisbane6275

Жыл бұрын

Wait- 63 massacres in what, like *6 weeks*?! What the hell is wrong with America??!!

I remember Pt Arthur it was heart breaking. Even a mother tried to take cover with her two small children- begging for her life. Good on ya Mr Howard for Gun control.

Hi mate his take on gun control was great, In Oz you can still go hunting, farmers can have weapons to protect their livestock it's just better regulated in some states before gun control you could buy a gun, rifles and shotguns only, over the counter, pistols were always regulated, now you have to be registered and have a valid reason and semi automatic weapons are available to people who genuinely need them. Hand guns are available if you target shoot etc, as a sport again with regulations cheers

@wendyyi7715

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Americans appear to think that there are no guns in Australia.

@1911GreaterThanALL

Жыл бұрын

Hint: The American ability to possess a firearm has NOTHING to do with hunting.

@Maxiakt

Жыл бұрын

@1911GreaterThanALL hint you are a gun fanatic

@throwawaytrash33

Жыл бұрын

But that's not the point of ownership.

I've seen this before, absolutely brilliant!! That's how American Administration really is! 🤠😵🤐 I have met John Howard, a great father, a caring human being, a very smart and honest man, solid! 🤗👍 Loving the British sarcasm - yes or no, err!!? 😄🥸🤡

@barnowl5774

Жыл бұрын

And a lousy Liberal party politician.

@erwinzyx

Жыл бұрын

@@barnowl5774 - Yet he was our second-longest serving Prime Minister.

@barnowl5774

Жыл бұрын

@@erwinzyx I stand corrected - a lousy liberal party politician and the second-longest lousy serving Prime Minister who got one thing right regarding gun laws after the Port Arthur massacre.

I lived through this period myself, my dad was a huge gun collector, when he died a few years ago he still had over 100 firearms in his collection. Of course he wasn't happy about the change to the laws, and maintaining licenses for each of his guns was a constant battle, since he needed to go target shooting with each one within a certain timeframe to keep his license, and he was a very responsible owner with a special locked room in his house containing his gunsafes, a special safe in his car, the whole nine yards. That being said, he was able to maintain a huge collection of guns even with the restrictions, and the weapons he owned that would have been destroyed in the ban he sold to a friend of his in New Zealand where the laws were and are a little more relaxed. The stuff he had that would have been illegal in New Zealand, like his grenade launcher, mysteriously disappeared never to be seen again..... Fun story actually, his friend in NZ ended up being one of the people Weta Workshop sourced props for King Kong from, specifically my dad's collection of Thompson submachine guns are used quite a lot through the movie, when my dad visisted him a few years before his death, he let him rattle off a magazine of blanks from the movie that they had given him as thanks for letting them use his guns :D Personally I don't have a license, or own any guns, but I support people who want to being able to, if they are responsible and have been thoroughly vetted, which is why I support our gun laws here, and why I think the USA really needs to stop with the bullcrap arguments and implement sane controls over who is allowed to own firearms.

@goannaj3243

Жыл бұрын

Yes that's the point, but if you became unhinged would you have been able to access those guns? Sounds a much bigger collection than my Dad had, and the most dangerous was a Lee Enfield bolt action 5 shot magazine. Hardly an AR-15, but at 13 could have taken it but wasn't the murdering type. Organised crime will always have guns but they don't go shooting up schools.

@1911GreaterThanALL

Жыл бұрын

Name 1 example of a bullcrap argument.

@Whitewingdevil

Жыл бұрын

@@1911GreaterThanALL "If we ban the guns only criminals will have guns", we had the same argument here and so did the UK, but the black market is pretty damn unforgiving, and is 30-40 times more expensive than the open market, so your petty criminals mugging people on the street for pocket change can't afford them, only organised gangs can, who can be more effectively targeted by police than your random street thug. "Gun control doesn't work" It literally works in quite a few nations around the world right now. If I wanted to buy a gun here in Victoria, one of the most restrictive states in Aus, it would take a couple weeks to get registered and be able to buy one. I wouldn't even need to invest in a safe or anything if I decide to store it at a gun club where I could go shooting with it. "I need it to defend me, and defend my family" If you have so many enemies that want you dead that you are worried about them coming to kill you in your home, and you couldn't defend yourself with a bat or something, you probably shouldn't be allowed a gun in the first place. Keep in mind, I'm not one of those people saying yall should ban guns, I just think certain commonsense restrictions like we have here are the bare minimum to keep people safe, from themselves and each other. Obviously if you ever do get decent gun laws, they're gonna be pretty different to what's happened in other countries, just because of how incredibly toxic the topic is over there politically, but trust me when I say that unless you're a criminal or a mental case, you have nothing to fear from gun laws. Hey, just wanted to end this reply saying I have no problem with people who disagree with me on this personally, we're all different and have different views on life and the world around us, just because you disagree with me doesn't make you a bad person, hell, it might not even make you wrong, I could be completely off about this, I'm no expert on the complex story of firearms in america. Hope you're having a good day mate!

@Whitewingdevil

Жыл бұрын

@@goannaj3243 Me as his kid? Nope. Not as a youngster and not when I became an adult, there was only 1 key to the gun room, and he had it on his keyring at all times, even if I busted down the door I didn't know the combinations to his safes. He knew it was potentially dangerous having children in a house with guns, so once I was old enough he spent a lot of time with me explaining gun safety and just how dangerous they were, I never had a toy gun as a kid, not even a water pistol, my parents were so serious about this. "Guns aren't toys" was gospel around our house.

@coreenavenn4235

Жыл бұрын

@@1911GreaterThanALL no bullcrap argument when the 2nd amendment is bullcrap by itself.. Amendments can be removed from statute books but USA would rather people die

I've never been a fan of John Howard, but getting rid of guns was the best thing he did

@jimmyboy7817

Жыл бұрын

The 2nd best thing was defeating Mark Latham, in retrospect.

@dalane5196

7 ай бұрын

Well I am a fan of John Howard, no debt, no deficits, lower taxation, the man was a legend, we should never have voted him out. He was a politician of principle, the last we have had for a while.

Great reaction! Boggles the mind doesn’t it? 🤦🏼‍♀️🤣✌🏼

As an Aussie in the US, one of the biggest roadblocks I see is the whole election process here. Firstly, the voter turnout is low compared to Australia. Unlike Australia, where voting is compulsory, in the US it is optional, and most people don't vote. Second, the power of the lobbyists for organizations like the NRA to influence how members of congress and senators vote vs the impact on their constituents of how they vote. I think most polls show a majority of Americans are in favor of some sort of gun control changes (eg better background checks, assault rifles etc) but when it comes to getting off their butts and voting, they can't be bothered. The NRA can muster all of its members to vote if threatened. This means politicians are much more afraid of the NRA than they are of the average constituent.

@S1D3W1ND3R015

Жыл бұрын

I like how you tout about being forced to vote like that's good. Voting is a right here that may or may not be used depending on the person. Just like the 2A and gun ownership is. You don't have to own a gun if you choose not to. Btw I love the red herring of saying it's about money. Biden has done a fantastic job in blaming it on money as if we don't have a constitutional guaranteed fundamental inalienable right of the People to keep and bear Arms. Btw the U.S. has made less than a billion in sales of AR 15s in 10 years. Apple makes that in like 6 months.

@Jus7aguy

10 ай бұрын

@@S1D3W1ND3R015 Why do they need to sell you more? You already have ALL the god damn guns. And while being obligated to vote (IT's only a $20 fine if you don't here but you are will get fined), plus holding it on a weekend so that people with normal jobs can easily vote, means we get about a 90-95% voter turn out every time. I believe in 2016 less than half your population voted? Imagine how much less impact lobby groups (Not necessarily the ones with money, but the ones with a very very vocal and strongly held opinion who WILL get out to vote) would have on your general political spectrum, if you had a 90% voter turn out? You got Trump with less than 25% of your country voting for him. In fact you got almost every president in the last 20 years with less than 30% of your country voting for them. Because 1/2 the country just DIDN'T VOTE EITHER WAY. This means you have not had a majority vote political party for a few decades, because half the country abstained.

At the present moment we have an ever increasing number of Americans migrating to Australia and as I have learnt that a good majority of these people who immigrated stated they wanted to come to Australia to give their children a good education and to be safe to go to school and not have to worry about people carrying guns that carry our school shootings. What is so amazing that America has some of the smartest people in the world and yet it is hard to fathom how they can be so blind or just do not want to see the problem and yet they are happy to let their children go to school and take the risk of being shot at and unfortunately some (a lot)get killed. My heart goes out to those families who have lost their children. AMEN

Another Aussie here. I literally have never ever met a single adult where the gun laws have come up that’s against it. Not a single one.

@thomasb5600

Жыл бұрын

At the time I knew 3. 2 claimed that it would stop them pig shooting on the weekends, the other said there was no point as it did not stop the bad people having guns.

@Maxiakt

Жыл бұрын

I was a gun owner when the laws were brought in, I was totally opposed to it, but as years went by and i watched what was happening in the US i realised i was wrong and selfish. now i still own guns and i love our gun laws.

@Amyduckie

Жыл бұрын

@@Maxiakt right?! It’s not like it’s impossible to own them. My mum was a gun owner prior to the laws coming in, though I don’t know if she had one when they actually were enacted, I just know she had one when my brothers were small, and she’s all for the laws. Thinks they’re great. I’ve thought about purchasing one for sport, I think it would be fun. But I’m thankful, so much, for the common sense restrictions in place.

@1911GreaterThanALL

Жыл бұрын

That is because you haven't experienced the lack enforcement of laws against violent felons in the U.S.. Perhaps do some more research as to why Americans don't want to part with their firearms. According to the Obama era study on defensive uses of firearms they are a range of estimates from 500k-2.5m times per year. The study cited that a defensive gun use means a threat of force via the presence of firearm was used it does not mean necessarily that a firearm was actually fired. Look up also the lack of effective criminal reform laws in the U.S. and their effect specifically noting that convicted persons commit the same or similar crimes not after they leave lock up. If criminals don't find the punishment significant then you see repeats of the same or similar crimes in the U.S. as we continually see here noting the George Floyd issue. Repeat felon committing more felonies while using fentanyl and narcotics. There are definite and significant reasons why Americans won't give up their firearms and significant reasons why they need them. One is tyranny of any scale.

@thomasb5600

Жыл бұрын

@@1911GreaterThanALL what BS. Complains -Lack of punishment. The US has the largest prison population per capita. -Gun Crime. Gun are cheaper then cars and just as easy to get. There are more guns in the USA then people. If there was less guns then they become more expensive on the black market so less criminals would have thus less gun crime. Look at the weapons the Mexican cartels bought in the USA. - Want less crime cheaper access to health, education and better wages, give rights back to convicted criminal after serving time. Change gun related laws like back ground check, register guns, ban military styled weapons, remove right to defend in public areas. I suggest doing research on other countries like Japan, Sweden or Norway, not just Australia or the UK, for crime, health, education, work condition and gun control. I guess those socialist countries I mention do get somethings right. As I also understand most crime rates have been dropping, however because of media coverage people feel it has been getting worse. This has been occurring across many countries.

“Look after your mates and your mates will look after you” Some top Aussie bloke, possibly Shane Warne.

BIG THUMBS UP FOR THIS VIDEO! Narrow minded, self serving, greedy, egotistical people will never admit they are wrong. And "THAT" is the problem!

When the presenter said “no one is afraid of Indonesias” I instantly thought “No one in America even knows what Indonesia is” 🤣

The getting re-elected bit is the main point. Getting re-elected needs lots of money in the US. The gun lobby(ies) buy the reps, The reps reward the bribes.

@barnowl5774

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!

There was plenty of pushback at the time and some politicians sacrificed their careers in politics to push gun control through there were protests and death threats but the politicians on both sides held firm and thanks to them we have safer streets and rational gun control

As a proud Aussie and sister of NZ We have the best of best lives ❤❤❤

G'day , I live about 220 kms from Port Arthur in Tasmania... That Sunday in April 1996 I was playing Pennant golf form my team and got home around 5 pm ...Was listening to music on the car stereo as where I was is a notoriously bad place for radio reception ...Walked in to our local takeaway food place to get something easy for tea and the TV behind the counter was showing horrific news of the massacre ...It was so surreal , so haunting and unbeleivable at the time in my home State and it still is now...America's mentality with guns though is even more so ...WHAT WIRES THEM THAT WAY ...I have no idea.. If the Sandy Hook school and Columbine High School massacres didn't change the mentality , then nothing will ...It's a scary , scary place ...

I remember being so resentful about this legislation happening, and I did it even have guns. But the result of living in safety without having to fear for our lives and the lives of our children was worth it. I even had someone attempt to rob me with a fake gun. I was able to just brush him off with rolled eyes and sarcasm and he ran away. In America I would have been robbed and possibly killed. This is one of the only John Howard policies that I agreed with. Even with all the other damage his government did to us, I am thankful for this one.

Planet "X", as opposed to Planet America

I was 2 months old when the Port Arthur Massacre occurred and less than 6 months old when Gun laws went into effect I'm almost 28 now and I've never seen a gun in real life and I grew up and still live in a regional area of Australia and spent time on farms and properties growing up! The next mass shooting didn't occur until 2 months shy of my 19th birthday!

I heard on the news on January 23, 2023 that there had already been 38 mass killings in the US. So many killings to start a year. I was planning on going there for musical reasons as I have guitar builders who've invited me to stay with them but guns scare me. Our gun laws worked!!!!! John Howard did a great thing.Just look at those videos where the Govt. reimbursed people who handed millions in and then they were destroyed. As long as there's a gun and a psychotic person, killings will occur but at least we are minimzing that risk. Yes, you do need to be psychologically evaluated to get a license, then required to store bullets in a home safe. When will Americans learn? Probably never. They seem so stupid to us Aussies ( in many ways).

@S1D3W1ND3R015

Жыл бұрын

About 30 of those were inner-city gang violence or drug and poverty violence.

One fact that seems to escape the ones promoting the 1996 gunlaws, is we now have MORE GUNS than prior to 1996. Most guns that were handed in (Not confiscated) were actually grandpas old single barrel 12ga shot gun or single shot 22LR bolt-action rifle that was in back of a wardrobe. It was not AR-15s (never popular here anyway) . We had to join clubs often to have the legal reason to own guns, so we bought new 22LRs, 12GA shotguns, and a couple centrefire rifles. Later a lot got their Category H (handguns) licence as well. We never gave up our right fo self-defence , we never had that right .

In Australia they do a sort of line dance to the song Nutbush. In MERICA! they teach their children what to do, not if, but when, a shooter comes to the school. So, I guess it sort of balances out, right?

To be clear, you can own a gun in Australia; you just have prove that you have a 'genuine reason' to have it (such as farmers for pest control, competitive shooters, hunters etc), you have to have a license for it and you have to have them locked up in secure storage when not in use and there are random inspections done by police to make sure that's the case and you have to undertake a safety course and a background check. Also, there was still some people who were anti-gun control so they did some studies using similar tools as insurance agencies (predictive models etc) to run the numbers and predict how many mass shooting there would have been if gun control *hadn't* been brought it and it was predicted to be approximately 16.3 mass shootings between 1996 and 2013... and there were just 2.

John Howard, the best Australian PM we have ever had, in my life time anyway. No national debt, absolute zero debt, surpluses basically every year, made major reform to taxation, waterfront workplace reform, gun control to name but a few. And we as a nation dumbed him for Kevin Rudd, you have to wonder. Still he had been there for so long, everyone was looking for a change and you know what they say, you dont what you have till its gone.

I was born in 1996, a few months after Port Arthur. You absolutely can get guns, but they need to be registered, have the firearm in one safe and the ammunition stored somewhere else, and you need to have a good enough reason to apply for a license. "Self defence" doesn't cut it. I've held and fired guns before because one of my cousins owns a farm, he has one to shoot pests. A guy I went to high school with works security and has a firearms license, and we have one in our house. I don't know the code, but I've never needed to know the code. I can walk own the street without fear of a gun being pulled on me. A few punch ups? Yeah that's happened, but I've never had a gun pulled on me (and I lived a pretty rough life from 18 up until just a few months ago). Gun control works. It's reached a point where we check the news and see "Mass shooting at *insert united states state here* and we just roll our eyes and say "Another one? Wasn't there one yesterday?"

G’day, as a viewer from Planet X I’d just like to say how grouse it is that I don’t know one child that has been shot dead @ school. Whoop dee do! I love JO & have shown this daily show footage to many of my mates. Always great to laugh one’s ass off. Van Cleave is a joker. He helped a Sash Barron-Cohen character, in Who is America (???), put together a marketing video for teaching 4yr olds to use firearms. What a dill. The 2 “got ya” (drugs & swimming pools) moments he walks into are priceless 😂 Also, WHAT THE FUCK is a bloomin’ onion?!

As an Australian I am sick and tired of people holding up Australia to the USA as an example of how gun control laws can work. Its is comparing apples and pears. Modern day gun ownership in Australia, before the gun buyback scheme, was nothing like that of the USA. Gun owners were a very low part of the population and outside of gun clubs the only people allowed hand guns were the police and licensed security guards. Ergo, the gun buyback scheme didn't cause a great uproar because it affected a very small percentage of the population. And that's all before even mentioning the fact that the right to bare arms is not written in our Constitution.

@mickadams1905

Жыл бұрын

Nice to see a sane response.

Luv your vids. Huge fan. Cheers from Adelaide, South Australia

Yes! Thanks for reacting to this!

As an Australian I'm happy that is the case.I'm also happy for Americans to be where they are.

I know they are deeply entrenched in their cowboy days way of thinking. I really think their education system is flawed when people cannot problem solve. Not just the gun lobby, but the average Joe Blow. Australians tend to be independent thinkers who can solve problems in a creative way, like most of the world. It would be like saying if you cannot cure everything with medicine, then don't have any. Wow how do these people get dressed by themselves. Elizabeth, from Australia.

Australians regulating gel blasters and spring guns as firearms is one such reason why we think Australia is stupid.

A denizen of Planet X here. The bottom line on Gun Control in Australia is this: If you can demonstrate a NEED to have a gun, you can have a gun. Some conditions. You have to be mentally stable, with no history of violence. You have to undergo firearm training. You have to have appropriate storage. You can only have a gun suited to your purpose. So, no 357 Magnum if you are a target shooter. No 500 Barrett if you are a farmer who needs to occasionally put down injured stock, or hunt feral dogs. It is all quite reasonable. Perfect? No, but working pretty well!!!

Gun control was the only positive thing PM John Howard did for Australia. It was the right call.❤🐨

@dalane5196

7 ай бұрын

One of many he did actually, crushed the unions on water fronts was big too, introducing the GST another, getting Australia debt free and setting up the future fund another. Though this was as much Peter Costellos work as Howards.

15:53 Her response was perfectly Aussie. As an Australian when you ask me about "Fundamental Freedoms" (Whatever that really even means) My answer is "What are you on about?"

@pulpficti

9 ай бұрын

Yeah I can't even imagine how fecking stressful life in the US is. You just have to assume everybody you meet has a gun. I'd never leave the house.

@vaughneaston733

9 ай бұрын

@@pulpficti Don’t blame you. We get walk the street and hang out without fearing for our lives, that sounds pretty free to me.

@throwawaytrash33

8 ай бұрын

Don't you think it's sad you have no Fundamental Freedoms?

@vaughneaston733

7 ай бұрын

​@@throwawaytrash33 America and Australia are similar in terms of freedom just we don't have guns.

@throwawaytrash33

7 ай бұрын

@@vaughneaston733 Guns are the most basic right.

You should watch Jim Jefferies on Gun Control. In Australia, if you have a back yard pool, you have to have a child proof fence and gate surrounding it. You could be fined.

It’s abundantly clear from both the video and your reaction that we - being Brits, ie. English, Scots, Welsh, Irish, Aust, NZ, Canadians and all the other members of the British Commonwealth have a similar community spirit and logical values. John Oliver got it right and the Daily Show audience agreed with him!

In Australia giving up a semi auto for a bolt action was an inconvenience for most who had them but didn't leave them feeling vulnerable but if I was American I would feel I was giving up my only protection. We where never as saturated with fire arms especially in urban areas..

He didn't do it alone, it was very much a bipartisan bill, however John Howard was the one that had to present it to the Australian people and that was very tough.

And the gun massacres go on.

How good is this series

It worked and we feel safe now

Australia isnow at a new place and it might be necessary to bring back Gun ownership. I never thought I would say that but when children and new immigrants can destroy shop owners through massive theft without consequence then the Country is now BROKEN.

Australia simply has True leaders

@politicallyincorrectpanda

Жыл бұрын

Not for past or so years!

That same prime. Minister also said the amendments America holds so dear is what stops their progress.

I’m just angry that my fundamental freedom to dive on whichever side of the road I want has been taken away.

The biggest things American want guns for is home/personal defense. Jim Jeffories take on that is correct. This less guns in society the less chance of criminals getting them.

@1911GreaterThanALL

Жыл бұрын

You can use a firearm against anyone presenting a threat of serious bodily harm which doesn't require a use of firearm being used against you.

@thomasb5600

Жыл бұрын

@@1911GreaterThanALL so killing someone that is carrying a baseball bat on the street is ok. Did you not also post about rampant violenence but you think it is OK to have laws that allow killings on perceived harm.

@S1D3W1ND3R015

Жыл бұрын

​@Thomas B Lol so you just let the dude hit you and beat the crap outta you and possibly kill you with a baseball bat? Not everyone is Jackie Chan or Bruce Lee my dude. Legally owned guns are the most effective tool to use against people trying to zero you.

@thomasb5600

Жыл бұрын

@@S1D3W1ND3R015 a gun locked in a safe or cabinet is so easy for you to get in a hurry or do you sleep with beside your bed where the guys that broke in can easy grab before you wake up. P.S. the guy said perceived harm, not actual.

@throwawaytrash33

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasb5600 We both know there is a diffidence between carrying a bat and trying to kill somebody with it.

The political systems of the two countries are vastly different. In Oz there are strong restrictions on political broadcasting. In the US, political donations are enormous in comparison and fund political hype in the run up to elections comparable with a carnival. Unlike Oz, voting is not compulsory in the US. It seems US politicians serve the donors of this money more than their constituents. (Particularly the conservatives).

The biggest misconception here is "they took our guns away" which is just plain wrong. We can still obtain a license and purchase a firearm, it is just properly regulated and there is a strict process. If you cant do that, then maybe you just dont need that gun.

The Dunblane School Shooting saw your gov't also bravely enact gun control laws

Such a great video..

Mate we Americans are never going to see eye to eye on this it’s always the ones who messed up and want a second chance have the NRA and most gov backing them love your channel may fortune and success follow you cheers

I detest most of what John Howard did & stood for, but admire his steadfastness in implementing gun control in the face of such anger from his political base. The idea of living in a society like the US where the pro-gun lobby is so powerful, anyone can access high-powered weapons easily, and mass shootings are commonplace, is horrifying.

@Glenn-ei3xp

Жыл бұрын

Thankfully you were in minority. Our Second longest serving PM

@Maxiakt

Жыл бұрын

He was a terrible PM he wasn't called the lying Rodent for nothing, He would do anything to get elected, even to the extreme of telling the Australian people that Asylum seekers had thrown their children overboard. which was proven to be a complete and utter lie. He coined the term "non core promise" which was a pre election promise that he never intended to follow through with . the bloke was scum

@Maxiakt

Жыл бұрын

@@Glenn-ei3xp You were the minority, the lying Rodent was dumped by the majority..thank goodness

@Glenn-ei3xp

Жыл бұрын

@@Maxiakt was pm from 96 to 07 you muppet. Educate yourself

@Glenn-ei3xp

Жыл бұрын

@@Maxiakt and tell me did you vote for Rudd you tool? How did that work out? Worst pm in our countries history

not just guns but you are not allowed to anything for the purposes of self defense

Australia introduced gun licensing in 1982 and then more stringent licensing in 1996. While there hasn’t been a massacre on the scale of port Arthur since 1996 there has been at least two involving four or more deaths. These were perpetrated by family annihilators who were licensed to own rifles. They would no doubt have used an alternative weapon had rifles not been available. Mm

Australian do not share the same mentality as the US. God forbid.

The guns handed over in Australia were pay back of cash was given. The ones I know of didn’t want the money, they just gave them back o Gov. to destroy. Good system. You can get a licence to have a gun for Farms and rigorous interviews for other reasons and checks for correct lock box and also good.👍🏼

In Australia we were PROMISED by Politicians that the licensing system would not be costly and would be fair to genuine individuals who had an interest in firearms. We were told the cost would be "nominal". What DID take place is Licenses were SUPPOSED to be for 3 to 5 years, and cost around $30. What HAS taken place is regular price increases that mean fixed income people can no longer afford a license, further restrictions so you have to have a valid NEED to own a firearm, must regularly attend a shooting club, or require it for professional use. The biggest problem is that WHATEVER politicians SAY will happen never does. They will price shooters out of being able to afford a license so that only the well off can afford it, tighten the criteria around gun ownership ( being an honest person who's never committed a crime WILL NOT enough). Be careful what "rights" you give away as you'll NEVER get them back.

@throwawaytrash33

8 ай бұрын

No fee for 3d printed. Hint hint.

Philip's brain is considered Brain X since it's very hypothetical!

You should check out the Jonathon Swan’s interview of Trump and the reaction of Americans of how he spoke to the then-president. Basically he’s Australian and the way our journalists interview our leaders is significantly different to the US. so people were wound up. 😂

Our tougher gun laws haven't really achieved anything tbh. I can remember when they came in (was a teenager). They originally came in because the government wanted to lower gun crime in Australia. gun crime did go down from 1997 to 2002, but sharply rose in 2003. It has continually gone up and down. So it didn't really reduce gun crime. The government also wanted to reduce the amount of guns in criminal hands. The police in 2021 publically stated that there are more illegal and legal firearms in Australia then there was before 1996. What customs and police have noticed is that more higher powered weaponry is being found in raids by police, hand guns have been the most popular gun illegally smuggled into Australia but more SMG's and automatic weapons are being found indicating that since the tougher gun laws a more sufficticated and thus more profitable black market has emerged. Australia is also one of the premier locations in the world for 3D printed guns, the most common produced are the 9mm sub machine gun types. The biggest reason for the tougher laws was to prevent a similar massacre to Port Arthur where 35 people were murdered. For about 15 years after 1996 there was no gun massacres but massacres didn't stop. We still had massacres where knifes and fire where used to kill. But the gun lobbyists and government can no longer even claim that tougher laws prevent gun massacres in Australia as we have had afew now, there was actually a gun massacre in Australia late last year. One sneaky way that Australian authorities reduced massacres was by changing the definition of what defines a massacre. In the usa and other parts of the world its 4 or more, in mid 2000s our definition changed to 6 or more. If we still had the same definition as is used in the USA then we would be able to add another bunch of gun massacres to our list. The two benefits of our tougher gun laws is that we no longar have massacres (touch wood) where dozens are killed, instead they've been reduced to around 4 - 10, and the tougher laws bought in more nationalised rules and registration. Before the laws we had some states with basically no laws (such as tasmainia where the Port Arthur gunman bought his semi automatic rifles from a newspaper add). But in the state i live in tougher laws didn't seem to reach the criminal elements. There is shooting incidents here every week, lol automatic firearms have NEVER BEEN LEGAL HERE yet theres a gang of bank robbers here who all use AK47s.

when john howard was giving that speech in front of that angry mob he was wearing a bullet proof vest, cause his security team was worried about him getting shot

Even now there are people calling for more rights to own guns. Luckily they aren't in the majority yet.

Wait till the end of part (1) ... the punchline ... it is AWESOME ... and tragic! :( And yes our conservative government is just like all other conservative governments. This was the ONLY thing I have ever agreed with concerning the Liberal Party!

I walked 500 miles to watch this.

My uncle hates the fact that we had gun control enacted, he sounds like an American conservative when he complains about it. And then we have too remind him that HE can't get a gun, but I could if I wanted one (I don't, considering the fact that guns are for cowards). He is a convicted criminal, with one of his charges being Attempted Murder against a Police Officer. Hell, my best friend owns 4 Rifles and 2 Revolvers too protect his farm from pests, but he never touches them unless absolutely necessary. Guns are just tools down here in Australia, where guns in the US seem too just make up for a lack of spine.

6:46 😂😂😂

Don’t stop the track so often Play a third at a time and then pause and comment

I love how he agrees with the gun nut.

Mate, John Howard is one of the worst people you could ever be horribly unlucky to meet, but on the gun issue, only the guns, (he took my dad's .308 and shotgun), I would shake his hand.

@jimmyboy7817

Жыл бұрын

I would add defeating Mark Latham in retrospect.

I hate that this makes me proud of John Howard.

DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR UNINFRINGABLE RIGHTS EVER!!!

The first amendment: free speech. The second amendment: to make sure the government don’t take away first amendment. Legal guns are not responsible for the majority of gun deaths.

There was massive objection fron our gun lobby and farmers and sportsman. But the legislation was put through in 12 weeks. And now most people would agree in hindsight. A buy back scheme was put in place which bought back millions of guns. Its not like theyre banned completely. You cant buy or sell automatic or semi automatic firearms. Ownership is restricted to farmers sports competitors collectors etc. Self defence is not a reason to own a gun

John Howard Waa a terrible PM , but on this he was great. Just rammed through the shit. Everyone that played a part did well. His best legacy.

You need to watch Jim Jeffries Gun Control standup, absolutely hilarious. Not for a family audience but is so good

@1legend517

Жыл бұрын

He's already done a reaction video to that a while ago.

Did you just say that we're similar to Americans?!?!? How dare you!!!

We call him Johnny Howard and he did lose the next election but not over Gun Control. It was because of his Work Choices which stripped people of their Workers Rights, that went over like a lead balloon. Ss he was kicked out of office in the next election. Johnny Howard is a derogatory term for him, because he was acting like a spoilt rich brat who didn't understand about real life. The next Prime Minister got rid of Work Choices. Unfortunately we also have a beloved actor who's also named John Howard, he had a lot of jokes directed at him.

@dalane5196

7 ай бұрын

Your memory is faulty, John Howard went on to win election after election, he did not lose until 2007. At that time he was Australia’s second longest serving PM in history. He did lose his own seat mind you which was something new, he really was the first case of a teal seat, ie inner city wealthy seats going woke and green.

I live in Ohio, USA. The gun culture is strong here. Nearly everyone in my family has at least one gun (many have way more). My cousin (a Christian school teacher) carries a handgun in her purse everywhere she goes. One of my great-aunts does the same. My veteran step-brother sleeps with an automatic assault rifle next to his bed, loaded and ready. It's like a sickness here. Any attempt to educate the "gun-nuts" is met with a lot of hostility. I feel like the gun culture here is very similar to a cult. It's frightening. I've experienced so many close-calls with guns. My ex-husband put one under his chin once, threatening suicide...my father's ex-friend was a Vietnam vet who had a bad flashback at our house when I was a kid and was waving a shotgun around at us in our living room...my grandfather used a gun to commit suicide...my brother's late wife was hit in the neck by gun shrapnel when a group of friends was blasting off guns behind their house...I unexpectedly drove past a drive-by-shooting once...my ex-husband put a loaded handgun in my face and pretended he was going to shoot me...an ex-friend murdered one of my childhood friends our senior year of high school by shooting him in the head 4 times...etc. etc. I have more stories, but you get the point. Like I said, it's a sickness here in the U.S. Makes me want to get tf out of here (if only I had to money to do so)

@julzhunt7790

Жыл бұрын

Australia is willing to sacrifice its guns to save its people. America is willing to sacrifice its people to save its guns!🙄 makes no sense.

Didn't they have a gun tragedy in Australia a couple of months ago

@evaadams8298

10 ай бұрын

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