21:24 Funny enough Marcos last words were "we havnt even had a chance to talk this through" It's insane how relevant isayama makes side characters and thier dialogue so far into the show

@wreathoflaurel

2 жыл бұрын

I also really like how Marco's words are also embodied by Armin - who we may have seen have been meme'd a lot because he had always asked people to negotiate first before anything. It's just interesting to have two characters who are close to Jean - Marco, of course, and Armin (Isayama-sensei revealed that Jean and Armin were supposed to be a singular character to represent humanity) to instill the need to talk things out first, and with Jean echoing the same sentiment in this episode.

@bonzoluv

2 жыл бұрын

Except all of them had 4 years of talking that didn't work though

@Repudiate

9 ай бұрын

​@@bonzoluv Armin has always been an advocate for diplomacy. Like when Armin tried to reason with Bertholdt, or that flashback with Armin, Mikasa, and Eren at the shooting range. Armin says talking DOES work because the captured Marleyans actually warmed up to them, and actually saw each other as humans. The problem was they didn't get a chance to talk to the majority of people of Marley and the world, because Eren went all on his own and forced an invasion.

@bonzoluv

9 ай бұрын

@@Repudiate you seem go be leaving out the part where Armin talking never works and the people around him result to violence anyway and he ends up using violence cause he knows words don't fix everything. Like the canon, Annie, Bertholdt, all of them. In s2 and 3 he tries to use words to bait and trap them cause it's useful to manipulate. His character degrades and he forgets this in s4. There would be know global mlk speech lol they declared war on them and they all hate them. Some changing fordnt change the fact that the majority won't. Gabi which represents most people in the worlds view of them had to have a lot of first hand experience and Eldian copium to be convinced to not hate them and even then still fought against them

@Repudiate

9 ай бұрын

@@bonzoluv When did they actually get a chance for diplomacy between the islanders and the world? They hate them and declared war because they never tried diplomacy. I would totally be a Jaegerist if they actually tried to the fullest extent, and then using the rumbling as a last resort, because then the world would show that they are a lost cause. But the biggest wrench in the story is the stupid 13 year curse. Of course the world isn't gonna get talk-no-justu'd overnight. Even real life peace isn't achieved overnight.

i think Annie showing her open palm to Mikasa is a sign of peace because she's showing her that she did not cut herself. it's the opposite of what Eren's been doing all season long, showing an injured hand, ready to transform.

@scythe9734

2 жыл бұрын

Good catch.

@Ivy94F

2 жыл бұрын

And it was the same hand where she previously showed she was wearing her ring.

You can see the B-rolls of branches and trees as the metaphor of escaping the forest. By talking instead of fighting and killing, maybe we all can break the cycle of hatred

@Thrillseeker8922

2 жыл бұрын

Good catch.

@siddharthgaur2205

2 жыл бұрын

Yet next episode 😏

@CJ-dk7hc

2 жыл бұрын

please,its not that deep,its because of budget

@brokenstreetlights

2 жыл бұрын

@@CJ-dk7hc no, it really is..you just didn't understand

@deshaunbaker2220

2 жыл бұрын

@@CJ-dk7hc but is it not good to save that budget with something meaningful?

Annie wasn't joking, or being a bitch when she said "What about me?" To Jean. The anime cut out a line (botching the scene, imo.) Immediately after Jean says to Reiner "I'm not apologizing. . " and Reiner says "That's fine." Jean says, "I can't forgive you. . " THATS what Annie was replying to. She was asking if he considered her unforgivable, not asking him for an apology. The anime ALSO cut out Annie tending to Reiner's wounds after Reiner got the shit kicked out of him by Jean. They really didn't wanna humanize her this episode for some reason.

@Mitsu2040

2 жыл бұрын

aw, man, I would have loved to see that.

@dilucragnvindr130

2 жыл бұрын

Tending to Reiner's wounds? It didn't suit Annie's character though. That's probably why they didn't include that. Annie seems to be aloof from everyone including Bert and Reiner but it doesn't mean Annie lacks concern. We saw how Annie was struggling with her emotions when Reiner was forcing her to remove Marco's ODM gear. Annie's character is more like a warrior and not a nurse. That's just my opinion.

@bonzoluv

2 жыл бұрын

Doesn't need to botch a scene that's already trash

@artbarge713

2 жыл бұрын

@@dilucragnvindr130 It's a very quick panel in the manga, she's cradling his head and looking over his wounds. That's it, not an extended scene, but it adds a lot imo. That's part of why it's annoying that they cut it out; you could copy paste the manga panel and color it, and it'd work here.

@dilucragnvindr130

2 жыл бұрын

@@artbarge713 Yeah I saw it. It's still odd though. Annie is concerned about Reiner's WOUNDS? That's odd to me. Annie knows that Reiner can heal fast and as far as I know, Annie isn't that concerned with Reiner and Bert's health condition before. She isn't even that friendly towards Reiner before. She even kicked Reiner's face multiple times before. The only moments Annie showed her concern was back in S1 where she helped Armin and Eren and back in Trost where she is emotionally struggling to do a bad thing against Marco. I just found it odd with Reiner.

I love the subtle message during Jean's attack on Reiner: The adults fight, but kids end up getting involved

"No one's perfect, everyone has done something wrong" *laughs in Onyankopon*

@thetruesquad5059

Жыл бұрын

Has he done nothing wrong?

@lovelyspoon5413

Жыл бұрын

@@thetruesquad5059 not that I know of. He wasn't with the Marleyans, he wasnt with the Yeagerists. He worked hard to help develop the island so that they could in return help his homeland. He's always tried to resolve conflict, he would rather die than bow before genocidal maniacs and he is willing to give his life trying to save the world knowing it might be too late for his homeland. Dude has a big heart and even bigger balls.

@bumbumboo6406

Жыл бұрын

@@lovelyspoon5413pretty sure he said he and yelena were responsible for comrades suddenly “disappearing”

@jaredhoeft2832

Жыл бұрын

Onion coupon is perfect and pure 🥺

The Role of Marco's Death : - The reason why Jean decided to join the Scout Regiment and the driving force behind his continued actions as a member of the Scout Regiment to this day. - the foreshadowing of Armin's realization that Annie is the true identity of the Female Titan - The reason why Reiner's heart is split. - The reason why Jean snaps and beats Reiner to a pulp

@danielduarte6802

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, role? 🤦

@voidhawkslx

2 жыл бұрын

I've never really taken it as Jean snapping. He has a lot of aggression but he was willing to bottle it for the greater good. He gives in because Reiner doesn't just give him permission to, it's because Reiner is demanding it. Jean is an incredible leader, and part of Marco's only dialogue was to show why - because he understands people even at their worst/most cowardly moments. So he beats the shit out of Reiner. Reiner who has been suicidal for years because he knows he did terrible things and has to watch people treat him like a hero for it every day, misunderstood by everyone. Without punishment he can never atone for his sins. Jean just tried to deliver. To give him some punishment, some consequence - so he can finally start atoning for his sins.

@hammertime1015

2 жыл бұрын

few shows really use so many characters so well. Marco especially. He was the push Jean needed to become a better leader.

@MrRusty103

2 жыл бұрын

@@danielduarte6802 Yes, Role. "The function assumed or part played by a person or thing in a particular situation." Its ok, English can be confusing, you'll pick it up eventually.

@user-hn3ll2tb8l

2 жыл бұрын

@@voidhawkslx I totally agree with you. Reiner wanted to be judged. Sorry for my poor English and jokes…

Keep in mind, before her speech, Yelena was having her background exposed and her dreams ridiculed and reduced by Pieck as "saving the world with her prince". So Yelena's reaction wasn't just her giving perspective, she was bringing them back to Earth/giving them a taste of their own scrutiny. The same way Pieck mocked Yelena "saving the world" was the same way Yelena mocked the group's effort to "save the world" as being platitudes. That was why she wanted to "remind" them of their "sins". This whole scene was AoT distilling the cycle of violence into a conversation; the moral of which(from Yelena's part in the conversation) being in everyone's attempt to do something noble sounding as "saving the world" they inevitably end up causing harm to someone else who wasn't apart of "their" world, whether they remember/acknowledge this harm or not.

@tareevah3119

Жыл бұрын

But Yelena didn’t care about saving anything, she just wanted to have a story

Honestly by now it's not an AoT reaction unless Ange says "THE DUCK" at least once. Love it!

@paoloalfaro214

Жыл бұрын

or "THE SHREDDED" lmao

I think the “save the world” line out of context can be considered cringy. But when you look at the scene and see Reiner, and realize that this is the first time in Nine years that the Armored, Colossal, Jaw, and Female are all back together in the same room, and their mission is “to save the world,” which is what Reiner truly believed he was doing back in the day when they attacked the walls, and admitted so to Eren during Willy’s speech. Then the cheesy line “save the world” actually makes sense and has emotional weight in the intended context

@eyemadam97

2 жыл бұрын

nah it was cringe af

@spacedude956

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! 🙌🏼 definitely makes sense. I still understand why some thought it was cringe.

@hawkxlr

2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, it makes perfect sense that Connie would use that phrase as a callback to when it was initially used by Reiner to justify murdering hundreds of thousands of Connie's people, especially since Reiner admitted that reason was ultimately an excuse. Totally not cringe

@bonzoluv

2 жыл бұрын

Nah still trash

@MyToastyToast

2 жыл бұрын

@@hawkxlr someone doesn’t understand the point of the show/the “children of the forest” theme and how every character has blood on their hands and they all need to collectively leave the forest

Regarding the way Connie reacted when he saw Annie, laughing and making a joke, I think that's just how he deals with stress and trauma. A lot of people react that way. Remember when during S3P2 when the scouts faced the Collosal Titan as he blew up the whole town and Connie just randomly cracks a pun about Eren's house being burnt? Eren's about to destroy the rest of the world, Connie almost killed a child to save his mom, and now suddenly Annie, the main antagonist from the later part of S1 is back. But this time they know the context behind why Annie acted the way she did. Poor guy can't catch a break.

@aligmal5031

2 жыл бұрын

he also laughed because annie reminded him of sasha and the way she eat

@taura3997

2 жыл бұрын

@@aligmal5031 Yes, and also it was Sasha too who first bringing up about the "rumour" about Annie who loves eating pies secretly 😆

@oscarblanco2355

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know dude... I think that pun example is a stretch to say that Conny when dealing with stress laughs it off. You could make a strong case for Eren as he laughed when Jannes died, then a similar reaction when Sasha died. Conny only a few episodes ago was furious as a remembered all the people who have betrayed him. Even if we can justify Conny's reaction, I don't think there is any justification for the random occurrence of finding Annie in a parade eating pie... that's just bad writing.

@oscarblanco2355

2 жыл бұрын

@@adu2243 cringe

@danielduarte6802

2 жыл бұрын

@@oscarblanco2355 But Armin and the rest started in Shiganshina and headed north to Connie's village, and Annie came from Stohess and she was traveling south. You might not like that Isayama played too much with the odds there by finding each other at the same table, but it does make sense that they eventually met up

Ange: Jean is the best Me: Truer words have never been spoken. Jean is actually my fav character in the show

@lofu5848

2 жыл бұрын

He's the character that I can relate the most in this show, and he is the most human .. truly top tier character

@farlonmuentes6004

Жыл бұрын

he is the only character i see in the show that has a full arc. everyone else seems to be the same from beginning to end.

@phoebusapollo8365

Жыл бұрын

So...would you say...he's the... *best jeanist*

@mgms2000

Жыл бұрын

​@@farlonmuentes6004 eren ? Floch ? Gabi ? Riener?

@sr-br2qt

Жыл бұрын

​@@farlonmuentes6004 Jean and Connie are probably the least of the the main characters

They don't animate this, but in the manga Annie was holding Reiner's face in the ground and taking care of him 🥺 I know some scenes don't have to be in the anime, however scenes like that I think is very needed, it would make the scene more sad but also show Annie's lighter side which we barely see in the anime.

@zaimzainal6635

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for saying this i never know

@reezwave

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, blame the one who storyboarded this episode, too much trees

@eslemhuyuk

2 жыл бұрын

They have cut lots of scenes in s4 sadly😩 wish they animated this

@lix1806

2 жыл бұрын

@@eslemhuyuk s1-3 had alot more scenes removed or changed and had more stills but I suppose no one complained when they showed a single frame for 20 secs

@Lesli3

2 жыл бұрын

yes, I was expecting that little moment, but yeah, small scenes or even frames, help to enhance the story

Annie reaching her hand with no injury means she has no intention to fight against them. You can guess this from the scene Reiner showed his hand bleed when he started a fight with Eren.

@KubaKuba654

2 жыл бұрын

In which episode that scene with Reiner happened?

@TuanNguyen-ed9rb

2 жыл бұрын

then what's the point of her ring, she NEVER had/NEVER needed her hand cut like other because she has the ring, your point isn't correct.

@KubaKuba654

2 жыл бұрын

@@jrlombardi5251 thanks!

@artbarge713

2 жыл бұрын

@@TuanNguyen-ed9rb The ring is to cut. She was showing that she didn't cut herself with her ring. We see her do the same thing. . well, I guess the opposite, in Sunset.

@Kay-qi7nx

2 жыл бұрын

@@TuanNguyen-ed9rb Actually, she didn't cut. That's the point.

You said Theo Magath has never shown any kind of concern about Gabi and the other warriors but that's not quite true... Maybe you forgot, but Magath has always been concerned about their safety, specially the children Gabi and Falco. Maybe he doesn't show much, but there are some scenes that quite makes you wonder if he's just a bastard ordering around or if there's any part of him that actually grew to care for them. When Marley started the assault on the island and the cart titan brings Gabi to Magath, the first thing he does when he saw Gabi is hug her. She even reacts with surprise. Deep inside, he really cares for them. And that is just amazing because no character in this show is unilateral.

@dilucragnvindr130

2 жыл бұрын

You are mistaken. Ange discovered that a long time ago. He said something like it seems only Theo Maggath from the Marleyan leaders side shows genuine concern for Gabi and Falco. What Ange said right now is that Maggath hasn't realized before what Gabi truly felt based on these exchanges.

@lucasmarques6472

2 жыл бұрын

@@dilucragnvindr130 i guess i must have missed that, I just said it because on that episode he looked kinda surprised when Magath showed concern about Gabi

@pooty195

2 жыл бұрын

you misinterpreted what was said

@lucasmarques6472

2 жыл бұрын

@@pooty195 I apologize then

@bonzoluv

2 жыл бұрын

He cares about them because they're warrior candidates, nothing else

FYI Gabi's voice actress is Ayane Sakura and she's amazing in all her roles, glad to see you guys always appreciating the voice performances

You have to remember a couple things about the Annie reunion. First and obvious one being Armin has always had a “thing” for Annie. Secondly, Annie saved Connie’s life in season 1, so he would see her a little bit differently than most. It was the 2 perfect characters for her to bump into. Everything is also happening so fast they don’t have time for some massive dramatic reunion asking each other “why” and such, they had to act NOW and Armins plan was clearly to start gathering people that would be down to stop Eren and become Allies.

@hawkxlr

2 жыл бұрын

Annie could have killed them all by transforming, and yet neither Armin or Connie gave any inkling of caution to her being in lethal range. I guess if you want to say Armin acting like an absolute idiot because he fell in love with someone sitting in a crystal for 4 years is good writing, go on ahead.

@CJ-dk7hc

2 жыл бұрын

headcannon

@hawkxlr

2 жыл бұрын

@@jrlombardi5251 I'm not talking about Annie meeting Mikasa in the forest. I'm talking about the initial meeting between Annie and Connie/Armin at the festival...

@ThatFuckinGame

2 жыл бұрын

you can half ass justify armin because part of betholdt its him now. the rest "it all happened so fast", can this fandom accept the flaws of the last arc?. This last arc its ass, 130-131 redeem it and thenits ok until 137 where it goes downhill fast and now the infamous ending of the series. Everyone who wasn´t a blind fanboy thought the same about the writing quality of the show.

@hawkxlr

2 жыл бұрын

@@jrlombardi5251 What an absolutely ridiculous argument lmao. Armin and Connie were in a death battle with the other Warriors literally the day prior, and Annie had just escaped from being imprisoned by them for 4 years, which only happened because she got caught after trashing half a city, and you think it makes sense that Armin and Annie wouldn't consider Annie a potential threat? What a joke...

Dude, they had already "lost the hate" a long time ago. After the basement, during those 4 years before Season 4, they weren't holding hate against them. Jean told Floch not to shoot at civilians. It's not weird or "out of the blue" their inclination to cooperate. Think about how Mikasa and the rest treated Gabi. How Jean treated her in the blimp. Their motives for "hatred" were more recent and larger than Annie killing the Levi Squad, or Reiner killing a lot of their friends and family way back. They are understanding. Even Eren, when he is comfronting Reiner, he shows understanding to him, on a personal level. No reason for it to seem weird so far. Now, yes, conversation was needed and we got it this episode. But up until the last one, there was nothing that was just "forced".

@HoboEren

2 жыл бұрын

Fr, they even cried in s3 when they thought they had killed Reiner

@toxichawk5752

2 жыл бұрын

its still incredibly annoying for annie to just be let off the hook.

@dilucragnvindr130

2 жыл бұрын

The last episode before this is still odd though. The Marleyan side were just attacking them like yesterday and now they are like best allies. 😅 This episode really solve that oddness.

@artbarge713

2 жыл бұрын

@@toxichawk5752 None of them saw the worst of what Annie did, and even if they did, Annie's done less bad stuff than Reiner, Armin, Magath, Pieck, and Yelena. No reason for her to be singled out.

@Sumi-e1999

2 жыл бұрын

I too forgive the people who caused my parents death because i understand they are afraid of us, and i forgive them. Their motive for genocide is justified.

I really, really appreciate the emotional involvement you feel for the characters, especially Carlie when she grabbed the tissue for Marco in Jean’s memories. I always laugh when you exclaim “THE DUCK!!!” - it’s so funny and so good that you find the Cart so iconic (because she is, but people tend to underestimate that). Kudos for that! Take care.

Jean is most relatable character for me, I can agree with him on how he feel about the eren's decision and he accepted it but still he wanted to be a scout who pledged to protect humanity, fight with them... He was so realistic character from the beginning of this series and also sooo underrated He's a great character

Not only did Jean's girlfriend in his dream have long hair, but she also had a scar on her right cheek, directly beneath the eye. Just like Mikasa... Regardless of what you think about the episode as a whole, I _really_ dig the opening. That scene with Hange and their fallen comrades, and Jean pledging to forever be a scout is just bomb.

12:20 Yall are hilarious, y'all really brought back Jean sliding down like that😂😂😂🔥🔥🔥

If Floch is the king of evil face expressions, then Yelena must be some sort of goddess, because that face she made in 4x18 still haunts me and I fear that it always will.

The beginning of the episode with Jean thinking about Marco really got me in the feels. Jean has always been one of my favorite characters. He was really smug and full of himself when the show first started. But we've slowly seen him become someone who is willing to become a leader. He can't just give up and relax like Floch wanted him to. Because then he'd feel like he was disappointing Marco. Yelena: Oh? You want to call me out? That's cool. How about I pull out some receipts then? Also, people have been saying Floch only cares about power. But this episode kinda disproves that. If he really cared about being in charge, he could've just as easily sent someone he trusted to take his place. But him going to the front lines himself and potentially putting his life on the line shows how devoted he is to save Eldia. He's willing to be that Devil to ensure his people's safety. The Devil he saw in Erwin and Eren. But just like I can like both Reiner and Eren, I like both Jean and Floch as characters. Even if they're fighting on opposing sides right now.

@ofcoursenot9520

2 жыл бұрын

lmao Yelena pulling a Karen move with receipts is almost believable to be something she would actually do

@beamertoy

2 жыл бұрын

What I don't get is why would Eren entrust his plan to Floch when the opposition between him and Eren's friends was likely to happen? Like what would Eren do when he finds out that Floch would pull the trigger on Armin or Mikasa? The people Eren is doing all this for...

"THE DUUUCKKK!!" Gets me everytime, Ange. 😂

Keep in mind that it was only about 100 years ago that the world won it's freedom from Eldia. In real life we still have people today that talk about slavery and other things humans from the past have done and that was 150+ years ago so the fact that it's still fresh for Marley isn't that crazy.

@jesusrivas9414

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Many people tend to forget this

Okay Carlie is actually galaxy brain for picking up that long hair bit. I have seen this show like 5 times and never noticed. Absolute giga brain.

@tinyj96

2 жыл бұрын

Same lol

Of all episodes that people disregarded or didn't like in the series, this one is by far the most interesting one. Dialogue-based, conflict, Yelena being a chaos entity, and Reiner being haunted by his actions. Yes, he deserved the beating from Jean. Also, Reiner said something that we kinda already knew back in S3. His split personality snaps from time to time to a point that he went after the titan that ate Marco as in revenge for something HE did. Wow.

@Mitsu2040

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I kinda wanted a flashback of Reiner doing that. In the end of S3 he was all ready to kill them all and in the beginning of S4 he is all traumatized by guilt. I wanted to see the bridge between those sides of him, maybe when he got home to Liberio and everyone cheering for what he did, but he knows it wasn't right. I know this is all subtext and stuff, but I wanted to see that. Maybe in a future OVA?

They are showing the branches getting "less full" as they talk it out, as a metaphor for getting out of the forest. They start out very full. The conversation happening in the middle of a forest is no coincidence either. And the soup boiling is also simbolic.

The camera shots, jumping from random scenery from one to the other, kind of reminds me of the POV of having a long hard conversation with someone. If you're having a long conversation about important and personal things, revealing deeper truths about yourself, you often can't keep eye contact/look at the person's face all the time. You're eyes wander, keeping breathes of focus away from them as to not give pressure or to show thoughtfulness. At least for me that what it seems like.

Only 3 episodes left. I gonna miss your AOT reaction videos! All of them were really interesting to watch! You will be up to date just like all of us now! There are still some OVA that you didn't watched i think. What you should do, is to rewatch everything since season 1. Now, all of your perspectives will be completely different! That way, you will be 100% ready for season 4 part 3 on next year! 🤗😄

about the showing of this many trees/branch, some say it was to save budget and cut the production short since season 4 was animated in a such a short time for an anime like Aot, whereas some people believe that ht trees and branches were shown this much to emphasize the Children of the Forest theme which I find to be interesting

@daniaaal

2 жыл бұрын

Tbh i enjoyed the change in pace. It also fits the intention of the episode which is to make the audience reflect and think back at all the moments in the show. It’s like sitting on a park bench watching the trees and nature and reflecting on our own life.

@lix1806

2 жыл бұрын

No. Look up who did the tree part. It wasn't for budget lmao and he isn't bad either.

@sidharth9046

2 жыл бұрын

@@lix1806 i didn't say it was for budget, i just presented two scenarios of which either one is believed by people of the fandom, and whom did I say was bad? like what

@lix1806

2 жыл бұрын

@@sidharth9046 I never said that you were the one calling him bad bruh. The reply is targeted at the "some" people you were referring to in your comment

@sidharth9046

2 жыл бұрын

@@lix1806 ok, also who is the person you were saying to look up about

The focus on the Branches & Trees was deliberate to make us, the viewers, feel claustrophobic just like what the characters are feeling in that situation. It also highlights the long running concept of "Children of Forest" of AOT. You see when Reiner says Marco's last words were "We didn't even get a chance to talk this through" - only then the camera pans up to show the clear sky.

@CJ-dk7hc

2 жыл бұрын

its not that deep,really

@imshubhajit

2 жыл бұрын

@@CJ-dk7hc For those who don't know how cinematography works, yea.

@lix1806

2 жыл бұрын

@@CJ-dk7hc it most probably is.

@scythe9734

2 жыл бұрын

@@CJ-dk7hc Don't replay, It's just someone bored and trolling to get a reaction out of you.

@CJ-dk7hc

2 жыл бұрын

@@imshubhajit yeah..cinematography = copy&paste branches..what a joke,headcannon

To me this ep is about them leaving the forest, literally and figuratively.

You guys didn't show it, but I love the part where Levi wakes up after all the commotion and says "please shut up" 😂

- She petting the duck? - I think the duck liked it, too 10/10 commentary here

This is my favorite episode on Final Season Part 2. It feels so raw. All of them finally talking without killing and going against each other. All of them acknowledging their mistakes. This is what they needed. To talk. But no one's ready for it because talking and acknowledging one's mistakes makes all their past actions invalidated. That's why they needed Armin a pacifist, he's been saying that since day one. Remember when they first knew about Eren being a Titan shifter? Armin tried to talk to those Garrison Corps before they shoot them with a cannonball. All along Armin, hoped that they could all talk about their differences. And here it is. I bet they didn't imagine that one day they could all sit in a bonfire and talk about their differences, why did this and that. It all boils down to them not even trying the peaceful means because they weren't used to it. That's one of the sad thing in a war.

Your reactions and understanding of this show have gotten better with each season. Well done.

In this episode, there were many depictions of forests, and many said that this was due to the animators holding down the budget, or that they were cutting corners. Maybe they used more depictions of the forest because one of the themes of this story is that it is important to keep trying to get out of the forest while that wars and troubles are compared to a forest... but those are a little too many.

Hanji effortlessly assuming the role of mother is just so wholesome.

Great reaction as always! You guys dive really deep into this show and its philosophy Appreciate that

the opening sequence of this episode is WHY this show is a masterpiece. that cinematography. its so simple. the music is so simple. but like, god it hits so hard.

@Mitsu2040

2 жыл бұрын

and that baby!!

Mikasa and the others didn't forget anything, it's just that they're all literally the same, they all have killed people and betrayed people. They all have the same sins. Remember all the conversations Armin had with Annie when she was un the crystal, he told her everything and how they're doing the same things they did, and how they understand them now.

@daryeusford9696

2 жыл бұрын

True, but they mostly killed bad guys and enemy soldiers, while the warriors are responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocents. Armin and Eren are the only lens who can actually compare to what the warriors been through especially Eren. Also mikasa and Connie still could’ve said something. Glad Jean stood up for his fallen comrades.

@jaws9116

2 жыл бұрын

@@daryeusford9696 i respectfully disagree. It's not about bad guys or enemys, it's the pure fact that they have also killed people too, just like them. Even Jean tried to kill Falco with a thunder spear back in liberio. Of course they didn't kill as many people as Eren, Armin, Annie and Reiner because they aren't even titan shifters like them, but still, they have, and they understand the situation and why they did what they did, Even Eren understoood Reiner. And it's not like the warriors wanted to do something like what they did, they had to, literally just like Bertholdt said "who the well would want to kill people", Reiner literally wants to die and even Annie cried to the corpses in trost and was traumatized by Marco's, as shown in the lost girls ova where she had nightmares.

@daryeusford9696

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaws9116 Ik, but regardless whether they understood or not they still killed bad guys and enemy soldiers. I do agree with you about Jean, but compare to what the warriors have done, I don’t see the comparison. I get what you’re saying tho, but they’re different no matter how many people try to compare their situations and say they’re the same. Also I know that warriors didn’t want to do it, but they still did it and that’s a subject I feel like everyone else other than jean needs to talk about. They’ve all should’ve taken the time and spoke to one another, so they can really understand what everyone is going through. That’s why I love jean’s character because he kept it 💯 from the start and said/did what needed to be said.

@Aruxxel

2 жыл бұрын

@@daryeusford9696 Quite the mental gymnastics you are performing there good fellow

@daryeusford9696

2 жыл бұрын

@@Aruxxel well the comment section is for speaking your mind🤷‍♂️

You have to remember the scouts are no longer ignorant. They know what Annie Reiner Bertholdt went through. There is an understanding and sympathy towards them as well. How immature would it be to fight when the world is about to end and you are fighting each other even though you now understand the other party's actions. Plus they have also gone to Marley and killed people there. All are sinners, so with what face will you condemn the others

@wb6012

2 жыл бұрын

Why should they help the world when it wants to genocide your home?

@hawkxlr

2 жыл бұрын

Well, one side attacked the other unprovoked and got hundreds of thousands of innocent people killed, while the other fought to address an existential threat to Paradis...

@CJ-dk7hc

2 жыл бұрын

@@hawkxlr alliance supporter are too hypocrite to address that

@Avinash-22

2 жыл бұрын

@@hawkxlr True, but your logic seems to just justify the actions of the scouts. That mass killing hundreds of Marleyans and Eldians in Marley was right. If we look at things based on your logic then even Eren carrying out genocide will be right as he is just fighting against an existential threat that will wipe out their island if left alone. From this perspective the island too was an existential threat to the world because they didn't know when the wall Titans would be released. The world didn't know that Karl fritz wanted peace until Tybur told the truth at the production. Until then the world literally felt like they were hostages and if any day the king of the walls released the rumbling on a whim, their homelands will be trampled. Sadly the world's fears came true.

@hawkxlr

2 жыл бұрын

@@Avinash-22 Yes, the scouts needed Eren and Zeke in order to not be completely destroyed by a Marleyan invasion, which is why they attacked Liberio. This notion of self defense would also extend to Eren's actions of the Rumbling. That's literally why the whole moral conundrum of the final arc exists... Also, Marley didn't think that Paradis was an existential threat to the world. In fact, the reason they attacked in the first place is because they knew it *wasn't,* due to the King's vow that Tybur knew about. Marley's actions absolutely were not in self defense.

I stay up till midnight for these reactions, ty fellow aussies ❤️

Lotsa cool details and symbolism in this episode besides the camera works too.. One thing I wanna point out is, if you noticed while Jean and Magath are arguing about the whole ancient history and who did whom wrong first, you can hear the soup (probably representing the tension) boiling sound getting louder and louder the more heated their arguments are as the scene goes on, until Hange decides to break the tension by literally stirring the soup. I think that’s pretty cool !

For me the beginning of this episode is the most emotional moment in the entire show...

the girl in his dream is literally Mikasa, she has the scar also that dream scene is very important don't forget about it

@bharathmurali9530

2 жыл бұрын

Why is it important though?. Is it important because we can force a relationship after Eren's death?

I think the Voice Acting award should go to Griesha 😅 that epic scene after killing reiss fam.

I found it interesting that most of the confusing things that you mentioned in the intro were answered in the episode.

Are we not going to discuss the beanie?

@CarlieAndAnge

2 жыл бұрын

THAT’S what you want to discuss? 😂 I was having a horrible hair day, so it was time for the beanie to make an appearance 😆

Jean: KEEP MY DEAD FRIEND'S NAME OUT YO F*CKING MOUTH!

the scene where Gabi and Falco begged them for help to stop the rumbling will never not make me cry TT Theyre just kids. They shouldnt even be fighting, they should be in a safe environment, out playing with their friends.. It's really heartbreaking. This show... really.

Ange titan introductions are the literal best! The armored!! The duck! The SHREDDED!

The girl in jeans dream was actually milkasa the girl has the same scar mikasa has on her face

15:25 There was a line that was cut. Jean says to Reiner that he can't forgive him. That's why Annie said, "What about me?"

Hahaha they talking about how the group just came together with no dialog or talking, to then watch the episode about they talking and dialoguing to stay in the group 🤣. Kinda like, chill dude, we got ya

jean's dream girl has mikasa's scar 👀 see it on her cheek

One of the themes I like about this show is “there are no winners in war” which is highlighted in this episode. Both sides keep going tit for tat at the expense of thousands of lives. If you win a battle that kills thousands of people, many being innocent, did you really win?

There's a lot of themes that pour into this episode. The shots of the branches and trees relating to Mr. Braus' metaphor about the forest, Reiner wanting to be judged for what he's done, Mikasa still trying to decide whether she can go against Eren, and Hange flashing back to the fallen Scouts like we saw Erwin doing in season 3.

When you said "it's like talking for us" when Elena was talking to the scouts, that was my exact thought as soon as she said this I'm like finally someone is asking I guess the person who is the cause of what she's saying the question that we've been saying the whole time. There's just a couple things that they didn't say that I wish they had I can't quite remember some of the questions I would have had for some of these characters at the time but there was definitely some that I wish I could have heard them answer.

I think what made Jean beat up Reiner was Reiner making it about himself and taking away the time for Jean to process the information bomb that was just dropped on him.

9:52 "she wants a high five" "is she gonna use the force" you guys are the best lmfao

"He didn't need to hit him that hard." Oh come on, he's a titan shifter. He can fully recover from something like that in a matter of minutes. Annie beat him up worse after Ymir ate Marcel and for a less compelling reason too. Since he was the one who came up with the plan to break the wall and let the titans into Shiganshina and convinced the others of his team to do it even though they didn't want to initially, Rainer is personally responsible for more then 250000 deathes and didn't just kill Marco, but did it in a needlessly cruel and painful way. This beating was the least he deserves. If you think about it he deserves punishment more than Zeke did when Levi pretty much mutilated him. The only difference between Zeke and Rainer in this regard is that Rainer feels more remorse, but he also did worse things than Zeke. Because ultimately Zeke at that point only ever attacked soldiers and never pretended to be a friend to his victims. Yes his spinal fluid was used to gas Conny's village, but that was done by the Marley military, not Zeke himself.

@Odd1006

Жыл бұрын

wow u were really offended by that one sentence lmao

this one and the last one are probably the best episodes very emotional and raw ....

nah that ending scene was cool as hell with them all posed and saying theyre going to save the world

Guys, just an idea for you: When you record the wrap up video after finishing the show, can you bring the notes too? Just to see how your vision and theories have changed throughout the seasons? It would be nice to see.

i 100% agree with ur intro discussion !!!

Well well well, if it isn't the episode that made the whole fanbase D***K RIDE Jean after talking shit about him all these years hahaha I vividly remember all of us day 1 Jean mains feeling like BOSSES after this episode dropped 🤣😎😎 One of the best character development arcs ever!!!

so excited for you guys to see this show

The reason behind forgetting the hate for each other is realization. They've already realized at this point that hating Annie and Reiner is just going to continue the cycle of hatred. Annie and Reiner have realized that so early in the show that's why they're not hating each other anymore. Many people don't like this because they just don't understand that hatred is not an option for peace and hence they call them 'Cringevengers'.

ANGE IM YOUR SPIRIT ANIMAL THANK YOUUUUUUUU !!! EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS WHAT I FEEL

"I need your help so my father in marley dosent die" like what😂 yall killed erens mom

I missed you guys I can’t wait for the next reaction

This episode was directed by the person who directed the Steins;Gate anime

Sitting down and eating some stew with your friends around the fire while chatting about problems is actually a Japanese antics/customary that Isayama-sensei tries to emulate here. Though originally in Japan ver. they eats Nabe hot pot instead.

Annie held up her hand to show that she didn't create a wound

I think you guys are one of the best AoT reactors

Marco truly deserved better.

Bruh as soon as Yelena said “what was the name of your friend you mentioned” I was like OHHHHH SHITTTT SHOTS FIREDD

Many people don't realize it, but the scene showing the trees describes an attempt to "escape the forest".

I find Maggath's reasoning against Jean is plainly stupid. What Marley had done in Paradis resulted in Eren doing like a 100x worse repeat of the 2,000 years of Titan history in just a few days.

I love their thoughts before watching, because the episode is just about THE question 🤣🤣 "did they forget what the others did? Are they a happy family, now?"

Nice to see Ange being honest. It's so easy for reactors to just pretend they love every single facet of the show just to please the viewers. Also nice to see that I agree with him on most of his opinions, especially when it comes to how they villainized Eren.

You guys r big hearted...

By the way, the mother in that dream of jean is mikasa, yeah, mikasa

I agree with what you were talking before starting the reaction. The team up was just too fast, it is extremely unnatural. I can see that happening though, considering what happened this episode. But still... It feels like their feelings were being suppressed and simplified for the sake of the story to go forward quickly.

that was mikasa jean was day dreaming about

It's messed up when you think about it Reiner and Annie are the reason some of them don't have parents and they're also the reason these are their only Friends left...

I like how aot fans defend every bad moment in the show like the last episode. The anne scene, mikasa and louise scene and the final scene are pretty bad in the last episode.

@stevenjohnson3453

2 жыл бұрын

These guys understand the show better than most aot fans.

@hawkxlr

2 жыл бұрын

It's almost as if the fans can't recognize any amount of criticism over their beloved show without devolving into completely unsubstantiated theories to somehow make the writing not bad.

@CJ-dk7hc

2 жыл бұрын

@@hawkxlr lol right..they will pull out theories out from their ass to defend any criticism

@RaffyDGoat

Жыл бұрын

Quite the opposite actually, AoT “fans” will look for any minor details to complain about. Watch Filmbuff’s reaction. He’s one of the few to truly understand every detail about this story (these guys don’t).

Thank you for the video

Honestly not sure how KZread isn't taking these vids down. I mean it's honestly sickening watching ange destroy that guitar everytime. 🤙🏽

Seems like the reason they all can put differences aside is not only cause the world is ending but they’ve had 4 years too see both sides. The scouts know how the warriors were fed propaganda and while Annie has been in the crystal, she’s been aware of everything going on

4:05 😂😂😂 If they know truth ... They won't saying it as a dream 😂😂😂 it foreshadowing future

Man...the emotions

Can’t wait for you guys to react to the last eps

amazing reaction

Something to note about why they wouldn’t hate Reinert and Annie as much is that they did all train together for three years and become somewhat friends and they never really wanted to fight each other. They probably do hate them still, about killing a lot of their people, but being together for three straight years created a bond that would most likely be hard to break

15:51 Another crazy face. That's Floch's second, I think.

Watching Jean speak facts in dub is insanely crazy good.