I've had 1 of 2 atn work well. But when a 4,000$ night vision dies you never forget how it went "trying" to get help.

Thank you for the video. I’m about to buy the ThOR LT 4x8 for a first thermal scope. Been doing research and ATN seems great for a first time thermal owner.

@4MRRanch

Жыл бұрын

It’s been good to me over the years!

@stevebzz839

11 ай бұрын

Don’t get below the 640

Thx for update! Been considering this one!

@4MRRanch

2 ай бұрын

I may post one final update, but it’s still going strong

Any chance we can get a follow up review on the X-Sight 4K HR Pro? I am extremely interested in getting that scope for an AR10 I am putting together as a hog gun. Thanks for disclosures on this video though, loved to hear that!

That shot at 2:55👌👌👌👌

@zackzimmer7167

7 ай бұрын

Would’nt have believed it without the recording.

Good honest review

@4MRRanch

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Hey! Loved your reviews over the years, been really helpfull. Do you know if this scope will be ok with .375 HH recoil?

Re: customer service. My 4K pro decided not to charge anymore after about 18 months of ownership and medium light use. They sent me a return label and it’s only been about a week so we’ll see. So far they have been excellent and I look forward to a favorable outcome. Looking to upgrade to thermal, but I have the OTS-XLT 2-8x thermal monocular from ATN and it works pretty good for pellet gun ratting but the resolution is more blob-like. Want longer range ability for coyotes. Think this would do better? Or just get a long range IR illuminator and keep scanning for blobs with the monocular?

Subbed. Thermal honesty is hard to find lol

Thanks for the follow up. Not a lot thermal out there that hasn't had any issues in three years of regular use.

@4MRRanch

2 жыл бұрын

So far so good, if that changes I’ll let everyone know!

I am hoping you can help me with my Thor 4 384. My video in the scope itself is fine, but when i look at in on the PC its very grain and does not have the detail. I under stand, larger screen means larger pixels, but the resolution on the SD card is 768 X 576 and not 1280x 960 like the box, and instruction state. Could you tell me what the resolution of your recorded videos are. I think something is wrong because that 768x576 is in 60fps. What good would that poor resolution at that frame rate. Thanks in advance. CO from Detroit

Have you experienced issues with the 4K Pro? I enjoy the scope however occasionally when I turn it on I experience slight tech difficulties which can be fixed by holding the power button to restart but… I’d rather not deal with that. Thanks for the update!!

@4MRRanch

2 жыл бұрын

Not a single hiccup other than a very occasional freeze a while back. It has sat idle for over a year, and I powered it on for the first time a couple weeks ago and came right to life without any issues. It doesn’t get as much love now that I’m using thermal primarily.

I had a Thor 4 2x8 a few years ago. It stopped working after about a year. Luckily, I was under warranty and sent it back to ATN. To their credit, they fixed it with about a three week turnaround time which I was satisfied with. I later sold it and bought Bering Optics Super Hogster which is a great scope with a 4 year warranty. When I bought the ATN there weren’t near as many good thermal manufactures as there are now. You have Bering Optics, AGM, iRay USA, and Pulsar now all of which are better than ATN in my opinion. Again, I liked the ATN while I had it, but there is no reason to go with one today as there are much better options out there now.

@4MRRanch

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I will have to check out some of the optics you listed.

@yogidumbear76

Жыл бұрын

Bang for buck atn is still a great deal.

@spcpitts

Жыл бұрын

So you think atn just quit growing? Atn has improved a lot in the last fue years. They owe me nothing I just have a 4k pro. Never any problems and way better than any of my buddies ir scopes.

@adambyrd2193

2 ай бұрын

I'm in the market. Of all those brands you mentioned above, which are USA-made? Thanks in advance!

I've had mine for 2years not a problem, but the other night all set up drove miles down the road got into position and the bloody torch shit itself a normal headlight just doesn't cut it so went home.😪😭

Have you considered doing a video on best practices of sighting in your ATN Thor 4?

@4MRRanch

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I actually plan to do a tips and tricks on sighting in your thermal optic.

@cultleader3572

Жыл бұрын

@@4MRRanch is this good for shooting 200 yards ? Do a day vdeio of u shooting it

Have had mine for 3 years, going to upgrade to the thor 5 HD 😊

@stevebzz839

11 ай бұрын

I’d give it a year before upgrading so they fix all the glitches

What barrel are you using on the AR that it's running on currently? I've seen several different barrels on the various firearms it's been mounted on in your videos.

@4MRRanch

2 жыл бұрын

The one in this video is a stock rock river arms 18” rifle where it has been for the last 18 months to 2 years now. Before it was on a 16” smith and Wesson that I have heavily modified.

How far can u see coyotes out to. And be able to identify them to yardage

What size zoom is it?

There are a lot of options when I click the link exactly which optic is this?

@4MRRanch

9 ай бұрын

I’ve been using the 4.5-18x on a 384 base sensor. Still going strong

What Caliber Rifle?

Does this work as a regular scope if you don’t want to turn on the Thermal system?

@4MRRanch

Жыл бұрын

This is a completely digital scope. It has no standard optical system you can look through. When it’s off, it’s just a black screen.

How far will this range the 223 out to? Will it allow a 308 or 6.5 to range past 1500 yards?

@4MRRanch

Жыл бұрын

I can detect heat signatures out to 2000 yards, but that doesn’t mean you can safely identify them at that distance. I have to try and move within 300-400 yards for good identification. Young calfs and hogs look very similar through thermal at 500 yards and further.

Would you upgrade to ATN better sensor or 384x288 is bang for the money?

@4MRRanch

Жыл бұрын

The 384 has gotten the job done for me. It would always be “nice” to have the better sensor, but I think it’s more of a want than a need.

@stevebzz839

11 ай бұрын

Get the 640 identification is so much better

Heck I could have a scope half that price and have it last 10 plus years and it would still work . I have and iPhone that after 3 years , that battery would drain within seconds after disconnecting from the wall . Honestly it would be good to have one , but for long term I wouldn’t want to rely on one

Some day I’ll scrounge up enough coin to buy one. The prices have stayed pretty reasonable. A 3 year review is a good sign, I have the tendency to kill electronics

@4MRRanch

2 жыл бұрын

I didn’t explicitly point this out (just realized I probably should have) but it’s been used on a 5.56, but I’m sure that makes the extensive use on this unit a bit easier than if it was a big bore caliber.

@lorenzorios1950

2 жыл бұрын

Excuse me for interrupting Gentlemen, but how much does a night vision cost?

@jeffhuntley2921

2 жыл бұрын

@@lorenzorios1950 $900-$12k. I believe the thor he’s reviewing was in the $3-4k range but you can get a pretty good setup for under $1k

Any weather issue? Exposed to any elements?

@4MRRanch

2 жыл бұрын

Nothing more than some misting/light rain. No issues from that, but I have not tried to roll the dice intentionally exposing it to harsh weather.

What about price

Customer service SUCKS. I have a Thor 4 and it developed a milky looking screen that started bottom left and started working its way up and right across the screen. I got serious run around and it took TWO WEEKS and multiple phone calls and emails to finally get a return label for repair. It was well under warranty as well. Got it back and the milky coloring is gone but the resolution doesnt look anywhere the quality befor i sent it in for repair. NEVER buying another ATN product again.

Any plans of getting a Thor 5 or know anybody that has one? ATN is offering me 3k for my Thor 4 since I'm looking at the Thor 5 XD. Really trying to figure out if I should just sell it outright and get a Pulsar or if the 5 is all its cracked up to be. I hate that I still can't find ANY third party reviews on it

@4MRRanch

6 ай бұрын

I do plan to try and review the Thor 5, just haven’t had the opportunity yet.

@HoosierBowfishing

6 ай бұрын

@@4MRRanch Gotcha, I am pretty happy with ATN overall so I'll probably just take a leap of trust and hope it's the beast they're saying it is. Always nice seeing some in depth reviews with footage though

At what distance do you zero your ATN Thor?

@4MRRanch

6 ай бұрын

100 yards

@strat1960s

6 ай бұрын

Thank you @@4MRRanch

Is yours the 384?

@4MRRanch

Жыл бұрын

Yes it is.

@TheJosebd

Жыл бұрын

@@4MRRanch is the picture quality good?

@4MRRanch

Жыл бұрын

@@TheJosebd I’ve been happy with it. Check out my full review for in depth details. This was just a follow up video.

@TheJosebd

Жыл бұрын

@@4MRRanch the one video showed you could identify cows out to 1000 yards? How about coyotes?

Internal lithium batteries can last with 80% of original charge capacity for a decade, tens of thousands of cycles, but it is still a ticking time bomb on the device, the battery itself has an end of life unrelated to charging it. Some day, you will HAVE TO THROW IT AWAY!

@4MRRanch

7 ай бұрын

I had asked ATN about this, and they told me they will have a replacement service for marginal cost compared to the original scope investment cost. My battery is still holding charge without any noticeable change in capacity. If it does decline after 10+ years, I assume the scope will be pretty obsolete and it’s time for the next generation. I’d personally be happy after getting 10+ years of use.

Bought a Thor 4 1.5 x 15 640 and sent it back the same day. My AGM TAIPAN TM25-384 is far better. $3000 TRASH.

said like a man who is getting paid.

@zaappp1588

Жыл бұрын

I think he sounds very honest and forthcoming. Maybe you were watching a different video.

@jeffreyreagan5818

10 ай бұрын

Yes this is an older video but I respectfully disagree to any sort of a bias towards ATN in this video. He has purchased more from ATN than this single scope which was stated. If anything I think he lacked in a timely follow up review he owed to ATN of it and had to get it done (respectfully). He stated it has been on more hunts (one a week-ish) than I would ever do and for that reason I am about to make a purchase decision (still looking at videos eww). I have been interested for several years in a thermal scope. ATN was back then when I started and still is, in my opinion the best for the money. Just to be fair Pulsar is my next option however brands have several models and I am still nipping that bud I guess. I just want to shoot rats (air gun) and coyotes (5.56) basically but yeah maybe do a hog hunt some fucking day LOL.

Good review.. but after reading through the comments not only on this vid but many others I´ve watched over the last few weeks, I think I´ll be giving ATN a miss, but to be honest there seems to be quirks on most thermal brands out there today... Pulsar maybe not so much , but dam you almost have to mortgage the house in order to get hold of one..

@davidr.wickline1100

Жыл бұрын

Agm has great reviews.