I have retaken the IR illuminator value in a more effective way, and the new value is 16.57 mW

Thank you for being the only person to actually test a laser and buying a meter. Project Farm would be impressed

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to watch. I’m glad you found it useful

you a real one for buying the meter and putting out quality content, keep it up

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Many more like this to come. The IS EG video will drop later this week

This is easily the best NV review channel on YT.

@4MRRanch

21 сағат бұрын

I really appreciate that. I have many more reviews in the works, stay tuned

It may be a chinesium “toy” but it’s certainly a way around the whole night vision and aiming device gatekeepers. I can’t justify paying an arm and a leg.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

For the cost this comes in at, hard to beat.

@lord-REDACTED-

3 ай бұрын

Saaaaame. And just to get an expensive grey market "Gucci" laser.

@RedEyePergo

3 ай бұрын

It makes hits under nods and holds zero not to mention its full power unlike those gay nuetered civilian lasers. So the gucci queers can overpay all they want Idc ill use the money i saved on ammo to actually train with

@sheepdog916

3 ай бұрын

Gatekeepers?

@lord-REDACTED-

3 ай бұрын

@@RedEyePergo this guy gets it

youre making amazing detailed reviews with fact backed data and the proper tools (such as the $300 laser tester) to make educated reviews. thats huge when a lot of people just throw around their opinions. keep up the good work its awesome to see

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

I appreciate you taking the time to watch, and for the positive feedback.

@joeshmo2827

3 ай бұрын

Very concise! Gotta have that.

Appreciate the follow-up video as I have been wanting to try this out myself since I saw your initial video.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

The longer I use it; the more confident I am in telling people it’s one of the best options for under $500. Would I take it to war? Absolutely no. Will it be a phenomenal flat range toy? HELL YES.

Dude! The quantifiable data is really valuable! Thank you!

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Happy to help! Glad you appreciate the detail

You definitely earned a sub. I look forward to seeing more from the channel, and especially the comparison.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Happy to have you. Thanks for the support! Lots more like this to come.

Absolutely awesome review!

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and the kind words.

Mine is still going strong after about 750 rounds.. banged it on a door frame a week ago pretty hard and it still is holding zero. Pretty impressed with this thing…

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

I did have a nice little drop out of my truck when opening the door, but so far so good for me as well.

Thank you for being a man of the people

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Happy to do it!

Well, this makes me feel better about the one I bought yesterday based on other reviews. Thank you for the followup as it is always nice to get more data and more use beyond initial shots.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

I’m not saying their QC is perfect, but you have pretty good odds of having a very enjoyable unit for the money. Their customer service seems pretty solid too. Not sure if you saw my initial review but I reach out out to them about the lack of hardware for the pressure pad, and they sent it out right away.

Love the video bro. I like the way you break it down but at the same time keeping it simple

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Glad you found it useful. Many more like this to come.

Great vid, thanks for taking the time to properly test this device.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. The initial review focused more on its ability to hold zero, in case you didn’t see that one

Just found your channel, and thanks for buying the meter to get the data. Gained a sub 👍

Finally someone with quality testing..great job! Keep up the amazing vids

@4MRRanch

Ай бұрын

Thanks, will do!

Great video. Thanks for putting this out.

@4MRRanch

2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it, more like this to come.

Awesome review, look forward to the comparison 🍺

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

It’s been highly requested, and the results have been interesting thus far. Should be live within about a month.

Thank you for buying that meter. Quality content and I appreciate seeing the stats. Keep it up!

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

You bet, thanks for watching

Very thorough review. Keep it up

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Many more like this already in the works.

Great video! Checked all the boxes!

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Glad to hear it!

Excellent video. Thank you for doing this review.

@4MRRanch

5 күн бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

These reviews are fantastic you earned a sub

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Much appreciated!

Great info. Keep it coming.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

That’s the plan! Just waiting on my buddy to get some nods..

That mount is a dealbreaker

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

I didn’t make it clear this only happens on rails it doesn’t play well in. There isn’t the tethering motion on rails with proper fitment.

@MH_6160

3 ай бұрын

I have one, ran it on a BCM, Ballistic advantage, Geissle mk14 and now a ADM UIC mod2… No wobbling issues or clamping issues.

@allterraintrucks5612

3 ай бұрын

No issues on DD uppers

@joshsherwood1879

3 ай бұрын

I had the same issue with the handguard that came on my Adams Arms P2 .308 AR10. I'm pretty sure they use a Samson handguard. I ended up taking some shim stock and put it inside the rail grabber. Once I did that, all the wiggle and teeter tooter went away. I ended up replacing that handguard with Adams Arms newer AARS handguard. That version didn't need the shim stock, and the NGAL mounted up nice and tight by itself. Haven't had any other issues at all with the NGAL. Say what you want, but I'll take it for the price I paid. I am eager to see your video on the IS-EG NGAL model. Also, do you have any plans to do a review of the IS MK4 NGAL?

@Solidous281r6

3 ай бұрын

It doesn’t wobble at all on my sig mcx. I really do believe it depends on the rail. I’ll have to throw it on my mk18 to see if it’s as rock solid on the RIS 2😊

Nice video. Appreciate the detail.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Thanks for the review! Subscribed

@4MRRanch

10 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching and for subscribing!

Thanks for the detailed review. Might pick one up.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching.

Literally the best and most fair review of one of these somos finally.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Many more videos like this to come

Thanks for the information. You post excellent content.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

I’m glad you find it valuable. Thanks for watching!

Great review

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Thank you, much appreciated

super informative video, appreciate the effort. thank you!!

@4MRRanch

2 ай бұрын

Happy to help!

Good video, thanks for the update. Subscribed

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Welcome to the channel. More like this to come

Great format and like the use of measurement tools. Keep it up. Would like to see other night vision laser tests.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Well the good news is that there’s about 8 videos like this in the works!

Nice review!

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

Great testing!!

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

awesome vid dude!

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Much appreciated!

Appreciate your efforts with this mate. Accurate data points and real world findings. Keep on going 👍🏻

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

LOTS like this to come!

@dcyphyr

3 ай бұрын

Yup

Great vid bro!

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Appreciate it!

I have enjoyed the zeroing process of my Somogear NGAL. Telluric makes zeroing targets for the NGAL. I bought a pack and got to work. (It was too much fun to really be work. Honestly, I just enjoy shooting.) I was looking for the actual (functional) filters but have not found any that are sold to non-military/non-law enforcement. When I used the unit with my ATN X_Sight ii HD, I could not see the difference in adjustments made to the illuminator. Having said that, though, I saw some rings in the ATN scope and those rings got wider and narrower when turning the knob. I did not experience the rail wobble that many others have experienced. All in all, I am really pleased with this purchase. Thank you for your coverage of this product,

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

I’m glad you found this video helpful. Thanks for sharing your experience. Somo should pay me commission.. I’m sure my vids are selling them lots of units lol

@strat1960s

3 ай бұрын

@@4MRRanch Honestly. I looked at the NGAL but was not ready to pull out my wallet till after I'd watched your video a few times.

@travissteele4115

2 ай бұрын

Some surplus stores have them.

Great video man! You have a new subscriber

@4MRRanch

9 күн бұрын

Thanks for the sub! Glad you liked it, more to come.

I do appreciate your content bro thanks 🤙🏻

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Thank you for the work you did for this video

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to watch. More like this to come.

Thanks for this info!

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Happy to provide it!

Great video man

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

@AKAdaDragon

3 ай бұрын

@@4MRRanch yeah man keep it up !

Great video, thank you.

@4MRRanch

Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

Very good video thank you for sharing sir !

@4MRRanch

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Nice work sir, I have one and I'm very happy with it :) it's much brighter than most LAMs, I put it up against my friends mawl and the somo was a lot stronger even on low, some people may not like that, it can potentially autogate your nods but for longer range illumination and spotting it's great.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your experience, I’ll be comparing it to a mawl soon myself

For the mouting issue, I wiggled that metal clip under the flathead screw abit with finger and then it fit and tightend perfectly on my MCMR 10 handguard

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Good to know there’s work arounds

Great follow up

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for checking it out

I already own one of these, as well as two of the real one. I appreciate you putting a quality video out about this. Subscribed and shared.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

I’m very curious to see how these compare to the real deal. Currently trying to work something out to compare to the real thing near term. Other the the divergence of the illuminator, how much better/worse is the somo based on your experience?

@R55Shibby

3 ай бұрын

@@4MRRanch I've had the L3 for just under a year at this point and the Somo for maybe 4 months. The illuminator is really the winner for the Somo since it is vcsel. The real NGAL doesn't have near as clean of an illuminator - and let's be honest: if you are getting a full power unit, it's not for the laser it's for the illum. The real NGAL has a better, tighter laser but I haven't checked divergence. The Somo has significantly more bloom than either of my real ones.

@R55Shibby

3 ай бұрын

@@4MRRanch dang it, what group did you post this in? My phone refreshed and I never saw.

@johnadams673

3 ай бұрын

​@R55Shibby lmfao you clearly don't have an Ngal what you described is not the case in any capacity

@R55Shibby

3 ай бұрын

@@johnadams673 I can't post pics here, but I do in fact have 2 of them. And a Raid.

Thanks for your work man.. I got one based off your other video. It is on a Scar 17, holding up so far after firing with it and slamming it onto a railing really hard a bunch of times (if it's gonna break it's gonna break now!). After sending back a Steiner for warranty I was up for trying new stuff.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Wow, it’s holding up on a scar 17? That’s pretty impressive.

Bro this is God's work. Keep the "alternatives" reviews coming!

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Lots to come

Greatest vid of all time

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching.

Amazing video

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Nice work.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Thank you

Great video.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

Love the video 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽

@4MRRanch

Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed

I appreciate the money spent, subbed and liked. 4:22

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

I appreciate your support!

Great video

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Thank you

Your awesome dude!!!

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

I appreciate you!

I'm interested in seeing the comparison! I Have my eye on the invisible sight

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

The invisible sight is pretty damn impressive for the money. I’m excited to share the comparison with everyone.

Video appreciated!

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Nice, thanks.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

You’re welcome, thanks for watching

I might grab a few these

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

You could get about 10 for the cost of the real one lol

thanks for buying the meter

@4MRRanch

2 ай бұрын

Happy to help

Very professional testing. Here's an algorithm bump.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Much appreciated. More like this to come very soon.

He’s the Charlie Daniels of the Torque Wrench everybody!

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

I don’t follow.. the triple click is proper operation I swear lol

@jrogerspilot

3 ай бұрын

And his name is Earl

Thx for the meter

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

Interested to see some weather testing.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Probably won’t intentionally beat it up because it’s been a fun unit and I plan to keep using it long term. I tried to see if Somogear would send me one to torture test but they aren’t interested, even tho I’ve probably sold them hundreds of units at this point lol. If I had the throw away cash to beat one up, I definitely would.

Feels like its exceedingly rare for anyone in the guntuber community to actually put up numbers. I like!

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Which is a shame, but trying to do my part to put out good info

I just got reviewing a SMSlaser XK68 IR, I'd be really interested to see what your tool says in terms of laser output. I can send it to ya for review if you want! Great vid!

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Send me an email at 4mrranch@gmail.com

@yeredfarias7662

3 ай бұрын

Would love to see this. I can send you mine too. I jb welded my mount to the unit itself. If you wanted to factor out the shift of zero between the mount and the unit, this is the way to do it. Its held up pretty good to a few drop tests I did. It looks like sms is working on a new version of the xk68 where the mount is built into the unit, lower profile too.

Very nice

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Thank you

I have a Somo NGAL Gen3. I have over 3,000 rounds on it and no zero shift yet. No rail play or teeter on my 11.5" URGI or Spear LT either. Curious if the Gen4 will have these issues?!

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Zero movement on my geissle handguard. Only my BCM KMR so far. P

Comment for algorithm. Good work sir!

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! Next review getting ready to go live pending KZread cooperating with me

Excellent content. Is there a specific rating of protective eyewear to protect against IR lasers you recommend or are any generic laser eye pro acceptable.

@4MRRanch

Ай бұрын

I used a $10 pair on Amazon. I’m not saying it’s the best.. but I haven’t gone blind yet lol Anything is better than nothing

Yup washer and or tape it if possible.

@4MRRanch

Ай бұрын

If necessary

I contacted somogear about the mount bc I had the same issue. They sent me a new mount screw asap and it’s rock solid on all of my rails with very little torque.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

I gotta give it to them, they adapt QUICK to customer issues and concerns

For list/research purposes. I have the red ngal somo and it isnt compatible with my 300blk psa jakl upper. But does work with my magpul pic rail i put on the side of my rifle

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Glad you found something that works. Good to know about the JAKL. I want one bad!

Commenting for algo, great work! electrical tape cured my rail gap that caused the wobble. havent had a problem with it since

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

I appreciate you! Thanks for the support and sharing your experience. The wobble only happens to me on rails that aren’t fitted well to the somo. I didn’t make that point clear unfortunately..

Fantastic data points, earned yourself a sub. Is beam divergence adjustable for the IR illuminator, like on the PEQ15 (1-105mrad)? Would also be awesome to know the measured beam divergence on these NGALs - it can be directly measured (pain in the ass though), or using beam profilers/wavefront sensors. Not sure if that device you have is capable of measuring it, but would be good data nonetheless. The 16.8mW peak on the vis laser is definitely stronger than the peak of the PEQ15, but not all that concerning if you’re not viewing it directly (shining into your eyes) or firing it in a highly reflective environment. IIRC the peq15’s vis laser is 5mW (standard laser pointer limit), its IR laser 27.5mW, and illuminator 45mW maximum - that’s admittedly from memory though. But yeah, this thing definitely falls into class 3B territory, lol

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Yes the illuminator divergence is adjustable. I compare it to a couple illuminators on the initial review that’s on my channel. This clone can’t get super tight or super wide, but is an improvement over their peq 15 clone

Thank you! definitely gonna grab one when i get my nag, also what’s that tan smg? That things awesome

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

It’s a heavily customized CZ Scorpion

@TruthPrevails24

3 ай бұрын

@@4MRRanch oh okay, just went to a shop with one for sale for 800, i forgot 19 year olds cant buy smgs. thanks!

One point I also want to make about the offset between the IR and the visible laser is more a question than anything, and it's when are you going to be shooting anything at distance with the visible laser anyways? I'm far more concerned about the accuracy of the IR laser, since the visible laser is only important to me for either marking for squad mates or for CQB.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Well ideally if they were perfectly co aligned you could zero either with your optic at 100+ yards, making any offset negligible as you get closer and also not having to use night vision to accomplish this. I still don’t think it’s too bad for the price point

@sectorseven07

3 ай бұрын

Yeah I agree that being able to daylight zero without having to put guesswork into it or use special targets is a big factor in visible lasers. But I'm just saying it's not a deal breaker since I would be prioritizing the IR. I think that the new gen 2 ngal (if that's what you have) is starting to look like a good option for people on a budget. I run a full power PEQ and I love it but that's two grand a lot of people may not have. @@4MRRanch

I’m here from your Facebook post

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Welcome!

have you noticed any momentary shut offs when firing? something that would make it look like flashing downrange. other videos have mentioned that kind of issue.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

I have not noticed this

Great video! You did it! Also, this might be the way to get FP units. Chinese "toys"...

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

It’s sad the laser market is what it is, but these are proving to be viable.

@joemo1033

3 ай бұрын

@@4MRRanch 100%. Love it. Wish we could get the guts in a more stable body.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

@@joemo1033 this body honestly doesn’t feel bad at all, with the caveat the rail it’s mounted to fits it properly. Still no loss of zero or function.

New sub here. To the point, with data. What's not to like. Thanks! I'll be around for a while!

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. More like this to come.

I'd love to see a comparison of the Somogear, IS-EG, and the invisible sight mk4. It seems that there is a lot of redeeming qualities of the Mk4 over the other two but at the cost of a little more mula.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Not sure if you saw the sneak peak at the end of the video.. but the IS-EG is close to being featured on the channel

@lorteti

3 ай бұрын

Just by looking at the shot of both side by side, the somo should be $300, the build quality is so much worse.

@ehrichseibert3494

3 ай бұрын

@@4MRRanch I did, and I'm looking forward to it.

I bought mine a couple months ago, It has stood up to 5.56 so far, only gripes are that some of my zeroing turrets don't click anymore and the IR laser is too damn bright (ND filters for the NGAL are impossible to find)

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Yeah I keep trying to tell people you don’t need THAT strong of IR lasers. A filter would really help.

Waiting for it to get back in stock

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Check every few days. They sporadically restock. It may still be their new year tho.

@malachijamesmusic

3 ай бұрын

@@4MRRanch 100%

Great job! I wish the illuminator was stronger than it is.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Honestly for 250 yards and in, it's pretty solid. It doesn't narrow super tight and I think that is the biggest downfall of this current generation from Somo.

Cool!

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Hard to beat it for the money

@rnginu59

3 ай бұрын

@@4MRRanch I agree

Yeah buddy!

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

Which Invisiblesight NGAL did you purchase? He’s currently making MK4 versions.

@lorteti

3 ай бұрын

This is the cheaper IS-EG one.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

The IS-EG. It’s a more “fair” comparison cause it’s in the same ballpark of the somo’s price.

Project Farm approves this message.

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

Glad to hear it

Id like to see a somogear ngal waterproofing methods video

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

I might eventually tear it apart to see if I can upgrade or reinforce anything, but so far it’s been more than reliable for a range toy and am not currently planning to screw that up on my end. Eventually though..

You sound like Matt Damon bro. Also good review

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

I’ll take both as a compliment lol

I have a few $60 and $100 airsoft ones on a few of my rifles, to be fair get a real one of you don’t mind $600 to $1500 price tags. The airsoft work fine for 5.7, 5.45 and 5.56 and ok with 7.62x39 but anything bigger will have some zeroing issues faster 😮 HK91 destroyed my $100 one and so did my PAPM77 308 but my Sig 516 still has the $60 one I bought on AirsoftGi 😌. For $300 and still running well on a 9mm carbine makes me happy since I was looking at picking up this unit that he has in this video

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

This unit is pretty solid for the money. Most people don’t consider $450 to be “cheap” but compared to the rest of the laser market, it’s a good deal for the money.

@Darth-Nihilus1

3 ай бұрын

@@4MRRanch that’s what matters the most is it’s worth it to you and it’s still holding up, I have to say that you made a good decision on buying that

How about using some shim stock, or pop cans, to take up a little room on the rail clamp?

@4MRRanch

3 ай бұрын

This movement only happens on this particular rail, zero play on my other rails. If I had to make it work, I would, but it works great on my other setups so I’m not too worried about it just reporting some potential concerns