Atlas 618 Spindle Bearing replacement!

Replacing the spindle bearings in the headstock of my Atlas 618 lathe. These are Timken bearings and the information on which are needed is sketchy. Here is what I found for my 618, with Tapered Roller Bearings:
Nomenclature: CONE = BEARING and CUP = RACE
Chuck side:
CONE: 07100
CUP: 07196
GEAR OR REAR SIDE:
CONE: 07079
CUP: 07196
The two bearings use the same race (CUP) so order two of those and the other two bearings (cones) and all are TIMKEN numbers.
Enjoy!

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  • @larrydeforrest5744
    @larrydeforrest57447 ай бұрын

    Thanks those numbers are very helpfull.

  • @MotoRestoFL

    @MotoRestoFL

    7 ай бұрын

    They're not easy to find, so I made sure I clearly listed them.

  • @prometheus4916
    @prometheus4916 Жыл бұрын

    Hi brother I'm just starting on a 618 doing full restoration on it but love the video

  • @MotoRestoFL

    @MotoRestoFL

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks. Good little lathe. I just wish I had a larger one with a gearbox for thread cutting, but so far it's performed and then some. Cheers.

  • @khester7397
    @khester739711 ай бұрын

    Cool video. Great info! Thank you.

  • @douglashank8480
    @douglashank84805 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @davidgagnon2849
    @davidgagnon28493 ай бұрын

    Did you see a date marked on either of the races? Atlas is known to have dated the machine assembly by putting the date on the wide edge of the race.

  • @MotoRestoFL

    @MotoRestoFL

    3 ай бұрын

    No. Just the number. They’re Timpkins.

  • @davidgagnon2849

    @davidgagnon2849

    3 ай бұрын

    @@MotoRestoFL Ok. They must have already been replaced before then.

  • @colonialroofingofnorthcaro441
    @colonialroofingofnorthcaro441 Жыл бұрын

    Well that sucks knowing how to get them out is the biggest part I mean if you figure out how to get them out then get them back in should be just a reverse but you just skipped the biggest part which is actually getting them out which I obviously have no idea how to do which is what led me to watch the video which now I don't even get to learn that maybe we can learn a little bit of something here that maybe which bearings work so Bravo on that part I guess but hey what can I say it's your channel you do what you want at least you made a video I guess so thanks for that I like the old saying goes take the meat throw out the bones pack what we can offer we can learn on here and maybe some other videos of shows how to get it out

  • @tmbevtfd

    @tmbevtfd

    Жыл бұрын

    Sorry. But that's because there's about a dozen others showing disassembly out there and frankly, it's as easy as you can get. Unscrew the chuck. Start from the left end (back) of the spindle and unscrew that lock collar after undoing that set screw, go through the spindle from side to side and unloosen any set screws you see, there's only a couple. Slide the spindle from back to front, it'll come right out maybe with a tappy tap tap on the back end with a soft dead blow or better yet a piece of wood. As you get it moving you'll have to pay attention to the keys in the shaft, and rotate it to alight with a clearance slot on the dust/debris cap which is just outside of the front bearing next to the chuck at that end, you'll figure it out, it's actually very easy. I do remember filming the disassembly, I don't remember what happened I thought I had it in another video (in fact, I mentioned that) but it's not on the channel, I don't know why. Here's a good video on how to do this. kzread.info/dash/bejne/c4iCtrunepivp6w.html. I forgot to add, the gist of the video was sourcing and installing the bearings, because the information on which bearings to use was unobtanium, there was no listing for them in any Atlas/Craftsman literature, I had to do quite a bit of hunting to nail down the different cones/cups needed. So think about it this way, had I not done this video at all, you'd probably still be scratching your head on which bearings to source.

  • @karlh6700
    @karlh67006 ай бұрын

    Hi and thanks for the bearing information. Do you know if the Craftsman and Atlas 618 are the same?

  • @MotoRestoFL

    @MotoRestoFL

    6 ай бұрын

    I believe they are, within the model versions that changed over the years due both brands. For example, the early Atlas lathes had bronze bushings instead of bearings in the headstock.

  • @idontwantcorporateretaliat6301
    @idontwantcorporateretaliat63017 ай бұрын

    how involved do you think it would be to upgrade these to sealed taper bearings and do away w/the oiler system?

  • @MotoRestoFL

    @MotoRestoFL

    7 ай бұрын

    Probably could do it but finding the bearings would be a challenge. I forgot which but the spindle vs rear bearings use either the same cup abs different cones or vice versa. I mention which in the video. The bores where the cups live weren’t that tight on mine I had to use some locktite but others may vary. Therefore it may be difficult to pull sealed bearings in. Those are obviously tapered rollers, which can take grease like a wheel bearing does. A better option may be to drill and tap a grease fitting and just grease them from time to time. I used to use 90 weight gear oil which worked great.

  • @idontwantcorporateretaliat6301

    @idontwantcorporateretaliat6301

    7 ай бұрын

    Mine's got the timken too but I think the manual calls for 30 or 20w oil. I found this odd for bearings and wondered why no grease fittings were fit instead. I assumed you were oiling per usual w/motor oil.@@MotoRestoFL

  • @MotoRestoFL

    @MotoRestoFL

    7 ай бұрын

    @@idontwantcorporateretaliat6301 I was oiling with everything, truthfully. 3 and 1 oil, 90 weight, motor oil, whatever I had laying around. It's not that critical, that lathe doesn't spin very fast even with fussing with pulley sizes, no worries. Don't sweat the small stuff. Cheers.

  • @leonortobal
    @leonortobal10 ай бұрын

    Good morning, I have a German lathe brand Kavo type 531, at first glance it is very similar to yours, I do not have the gear calculation table, would you be so kind as to send me a photo of said plate. Thank you very much.

  • @MotoRestoFL

    @MotoRestoFL

    10 ай бұрын

    You’d have to provide me an email.

  • @MotoRestoFL

    @MotoRestoFL

    10 ай бұрын

    Oh wait, you mean the 618? That lathe is gone. Give me a bit I’ll send you a link to the original manual which should have all that data.

  • @antoniolouro9347
    @antoniolouro93472 жыл бұрын

    hello, I have a lathe like this one but it has some problems with the bushing axis, I needed the measurements of this axis would it be possible to send me these measurements so I can make a new axis?

  • @MotoRestoFL

    @MotoRestoFL

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m not sure what you mean by bushing axis? This headstock had tapered roller bearings. Can you clarify?

  • @antoniolouro9347

    @antoniolouro9347

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MotoRestoFL I need the measurements of the spindle axis where the bearings go, that is, the measurements for me to be able to make a new one, length, thickness, length of the threads, type of thread, is it possible to give me these measurements

  • @MotoRestoFL

    @MotoRestoFL

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@antoniolouro9347 I don’t have a bushing lathe. The old ones were bushings. So I could not anyway. You can probably find that on a forum. Sorry.

  • @antoniolouro9347

    @antoniolouro9347

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MotoRestoFL my lathe is the same as this one, I need the measurements of the spindle shaft where you changed the bearings, is it possible?

  • @MotoRestoFL

    @MotoRestoFL

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@antoniolouro9347 no I don’t have that and I’d have to disassemble. Sorry. If your lathe takes these bearings you need to make nothing. The bearings are listed by number in the video.