I lived in Argentina as a kid and still speak Argie Spanish. I spent a couple of summers in Madrid, Spain, and when they heard my accent the Spanish would often ask "Oh, Argentinean, so you're a psychologist?" In Argentina many people go to psychologists and psychiatrists. During the Dirty War of the late 70's and early 80's the dictatorship targeted all academics, but especially the schools of psychology and many academics took refuge in a now democratic Spain, reversing the previous trend.

@bongdonkey

Жыл бұрын

Parli Italiano? Saluti

@emanuelperez2809

Жыл бұрын

To call it dirty war is polemic. It was a sistematic persecution against people who had different social and political ideals (mostly political left), using the excuse of some insurgents who took arms against the militar dictatorship

@gotija

Жыл бұрын

@@emanuelperez2809 Con el tiempo entendí que a los europeos le chupa un huevo la dictadura del 76', es muy dificil que logren comprender la magnitud de ese período histórico argentino. Piensan que fue una dictadura más de un país subdesarrollado

@fjp3305

Жыл бұрын

@@gotija Tienes mucha razón. Y yo me incluyo.

@marcosb6416

Жыл бұрын

@@emanuelperez2809 donde la mayoria de esas personas pertenecian a movimientos terroristas y se camuflaban en la poblacion

Most Europeans after 1980 slowed their emigration dramatically to everywhere. Even Australia has low European immigration compared to pre-1980 levels. Europe was on the rise and still is and now many from all over the World want to move to Europe. Argentina is a damn beautiful country with so much potential. They need to fix their internal corruption first and work up from there. They can be a major economic power again with so much to offer: agricultural exports, water, manufacturing and tourism.

@neil.heffernan

Жыл бұрын

@David GarciaCentral and Eastern Europe has improved incredibly over the last 30 years. They're catching up with Western Europe, just not fast enough to stop their people from moving west.

@ericpowell4350

Жыл бұрын

Europe is not on the rise. It's actually declining.

@michaelw7311

Жыл бұрын

@@neil.heffernan right now more people is coming back to central europe then is going to the west so it is not true anymore

@juanlima2763

Жыл бұрын

Lets hope the EU doesn't blow everything up economywise..

@Gaboxxy96

Жыл бұрын

@@neil.heffernan yeah but even Argentina, alongside Uruguay, Chile and Costa Rica, has a better standard of living than most of eastern and central europe.

Argentina is a rare example of a developed country turned into a developing country. People move around following money.

@CA999

Жыл бұрын

It won't be so rare soon... A few western countries are gradually following that trend...

@LucasFernandez-fk8se

Жыл бұрын

Nah other nations have done this as well, Iran for example was a lovely second world country better than Europe today in the standard of living, they had American 1970s clothing trends, new cars, bright black roads and clean non bombed out streets, it looked nice back then, now it’s a mess filled with terrorists and bombed out buildings ☹️

@Mausju

Жыл бұрын

Cuba might be another one

@helast3916

Жыл бұрын

@@LucasFernandez-fk8se that is bullshit spreaded by the shah propaganda to make iran look like a developed and westernized country. In reality most of the people were illiterate (now 86% of iran is literate) and lived in poor villages that were very traditionalist and religious, only the high/middle class in places like tehran lived like westerners.

@user-vz2fj4wq7d

Жыл бұрын

@@LucasFernandez-fk8se Iran was indeed more developed before the revolution of 1979 but it was still far behind EVERY european country.

As an Argentinian, I liked very much how you presented all the data and truly I hope this video reaches way more people due to so many misconceptions they usually have since this would clear almost any of that. Chapeau, and keep up the good work!

@newsworld4735

Жыл бұрын

All white Americans are migrants from Europe? Isn't it ? in north & south America - i.e. Canada, USA , Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, etc... aren't all white people migrated from Europe?

@el_Contra

Жыл бұрын

the data is wrong, also the video starts by selecting a period in time but then it goes outside that period.

Please keep making videos!! Your videos are so underrated but there is a huge community of people who are looking for these exact videos. And no one else makes these. So please never stop doing em.

Looking at migrations data, the last wave of European immigration ended in 1960. It had been slowing for a decade since the last significant wave in 1945-50 (the greatest wave by far, of course, was from 1880 to 1930). But it fell to a trickle in '60 - never to recover - because on one hand, Europe had been growing strongly for a decade and by the late '50s had surpassed pre-war living standards. And on the other because in 1959, austerity policies had led to the sharpest Argentine recession since 1931 (a 6.4% drop in GDP). While there've been small numbers of European immigrants to Argentina since then, most immigration since 1960 (as in the U.S.) has been from neighboring countries as well as from East Asia. Thanks for researching and sharing this video. It's a great introduction to anyone unfamiliar with Argentine immigration.

@AsiaMinor12

Жыл бұрын

You forgot to add the 2 Wars and the many border conflicts in between the world wars. You can't really export migrants if all your young people are dying in futile conflicts.

@lws7394

Жыл бұрын

A country with a stagnating economy is less popular to emigrate to. Let alone when there has been a military junta imprisoning ad killing thousands of opponents !

@sawtooth808

Жыл бұрын

Yes, there most certainly were a lot of Germans and Italians fleeing to Argentina during mid 1945, I can’t imagine why that would be? 🤔🤨

@matthewneddeau7993

Жыл бұрын

@@AsiaMinor12 not all Europeans died in WW2

@matthewneddeau7993

Жыл бұрын

@@sawtooth808 there was large populations of Germans and Italians prewar. After the war there were few European immigrants

europeans knows messi will born in argentina , they want to see his game that's why they settled in argentina

@vibhorgoel3469

Жыл бұрын

How many Cup Messi won for Argentina .

@vibhorgoel3469

Жыл бұрын

28 world cup

@RakeshKR10

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@walterpayton2120

Жыл бұрын

Can I start laughing now? 🙀

@davidyl2423

Жыл бұрын

They would have move to Spain instead

Much love to Argentina from Greece!

@julianvizio2190

Жыл бұрын

Greetings! I had a greek-heritage girlfriend, awesome culture. We attended to a greek weeding, very fun

@stirpsromanica

Жыл бұрын

Love greece, crade of European civilization. I'm Italian-spanish argentinian but I feel greeks are our same people

@gc6432

Жыл бұрын

@@stirpsromanica Argentinean and Greek culture are very similar

@stirpsromanica

Жыл бұрын

@@gc6432 I was saying it mostly from the italian/spanish side, as we share the mediterranean culture. But how is argentinian and greek similar?

@gc6432

Жыл бұрын

@@stirpsromanica the accent, the way they speak like yelling at each other, greeting people with food, family comes first, their physical appearance ( dark hair, white skin, brown/green eyes), strong and very talkative women.. etc etc...

After WW2, a lot of 🇩🇪 Germans emigrated to 🇦🇷 Argentina.

@emmetttaylor1739

Жыл бұрын

Argentina was a place that Nazi could hide from justice.

@asimbliskovac9720

Жыл бұрын

They followed their doctor.

@gabymeixenberger

5 ай бұрын

And also after WW1..

Eu sou brasileiro, mas gostaria muito de visitar diversos lugares na Argentina. Tenho certeza que a Argentina vai superar essa crise. 🇧🇷🇦🇷 💪

@anhanh8724

Жыл бұрын

Obrigado cara..!

Argentina stopped being attractive to Europeans just because Europe surpassed Argentina in development and became Europe experienced a period of peace since 1945. Also Eastern Europeans were being held hostage by the USSR since 1918 untill the 90's.

@AsiaMinor12

Жыл бұрын

And wars too! No point in immigrating when all the young people die. Now you have a purpose and there's no competition for labor.

@MrDude826

Жыл бұрын

@@AsiaMinor12 True....

@liamfraserobrien

Жыл бұрын

Id love to go to Argentina but i don’t think id open a business there.

@patricklewis2745

Жыл бұрын

Being held back by USSR since 1945 after WW2.

@puzzled012

Жыл бұрын

in 1918 civil war ravaged USSR/Russia. there was no domination of East Europe by USSR until after ww2. as for being a hostage DDR was deindustrialized AFTER they got annexed by BRD (there was supposed to be reunification not absorbtion

Big hugs to Argentina from Italy , should even improve the already good and friendly cooperation between Our countries. Today in Italy We Need You to come back home 😊

@julianvizio2190

Жыл бұрын

Greetings! Argentian here, got my citizenship and planning the comeback to my nonno’s land ❤️ Thank you for welcoming us

@yh-ir3op

Жыл бұрын

Now we have a shitty country and we all try to get european citizenship to get away from Argentina

@piersp38

Жыл бұрын

@Joaquín Cerutti Good for You Mr. Cerrutti 👍

@Mad_Intalect

Жыл бұрын

Funnily enough, many of Argentina's best ever footballers are of Italian descent lol, including Messi and Maradona.

@chessman70

Жыл бұрын

All the tanos want to be Argentines....they strive

I love my argentina and i feel terribly sad sometimes when I see so many problems that we have right now. My great-grandparents came here after the first world war, some others came here after the second world war, they had harsh times in europe... I hope someday my argentina will be the country they imagined for themselves and for their grand children.

Argentina is a great learning experience, if you can make it there, you can make it literally anywhere.

@heraldomedrano1417

Жыл бұрын

Argentina is poor 3rd country.

@flipbeat445

Жыл бұрын

@@heraldomedrano1417 2nd

@flipbeat445

Жыл бұрын

I was wondering if anyone has some insights on Costa Rica, any data or something positive?

@ramiropina83

Жыл бұрын

In Argentina every common person experiences financial concepts on a daily basis that are just abstract theory in developed countries. We all know more than a foreigner graduate by living in a country in permanent crisis for the last 90 years... hahaha 🥲

@flipbeat445

Жыл бұрын

@@ramiropina83 claro desde 1946

Argentina's biggest centre of attraction for the world today...that one man, the one and only Leonel Messi

@gontrandjojo9747

Жыл бұрын

Pessi is finished.

@lucadappiano8758

Жыл бұрын

@@gontrandjojo9747 Oh yes very finished indeed

How would you describe an Argentinian: An Italian who speaks Spanish and believes he is English

@fricob.4828

Жыл бұрын

Thats was a description of the upper class in the begginins of 20s century by a european diplomat. They wanted to be like french and british and you can see that in the old mansions the build , french stile in buenos aires and anglo-norman in mar del plata

@_francocarballo1314

Жыл бұрын

What????

@Pablo.N.M

Жыл бұрын

@@fricob.4828 never an english, before dead

@fricob.4828

Жыл бұрын

@@Pablo.N.M eso era anterior a malvinas no me vengas no con eso , la elite porteña tenia relaciones carnales con inglaterra , fines del sigo 19 y principios del 20 es mas gracias al imperio británico se contruyeron los ferrocarriles , nos compraban todos los cereales y carnes , argentina fue rica gracias a gran bretaña aunque nos pese

@fricob.4828

Жыл бұрын

@@Pablo.N.M ademas fijate en la costa atlantica principalemente mar del plata todas las casas etilo britanicas de piedra , mas precisamente anglo-normando , te suena la playa bristol? bristol es en inglaterra porque la eltie queria imitar e iban siempre

More power to you, keep going.

Argentina land of oportunitys, beautiful country, I love it 🥰

A long time ago, Argentina was such a rich country that a popular expression to describe someone who was tremendously wealthy was to say that they were "as rich as an Argentine". By the 1950s, Argentina had the 6th largest economy in the world. It was considered a developed predominantly middle-class nation and for a short time after WWII, it had no foreign debt and was even a creditor nation. Unfortunately, economic mismanagement, nationalization of industry and high inflation destroyed the economy and resulted in declining incomes and living standards. If Argentina had implemented the same post-war economic policies that other developed nations had done, it would be a Latin Tiger today.

@phaslow4393

Жыл бұрын

Still can be. A huge country with a low population density and tremendous potential. IMO anyway.

@georgfriedrichhandel4390

Жыл бұрын

@@phaslow4393 Yes it has potential, unfortunately all that potential has been unrealized.

Love Argentina 🇦🇷🇦🇷🌺 From INDIA 🇮🇳😍

@arielsergiocordoba6908

Жыл бұрын

Thank you from Argentina!!!!

25 million (or 62.5% of Argentina’s population) have at least one Italian ancestor - My Argentinian cousins are Italian & Dutch, they live in Neuquén and visited Italy many times. Many Argentinians of Italian origins are now applying for an Italian passport. The countries' interior ministers (Lamorgese and De Pedro) met in Rome in April this year. They discussed many topics, including the legislation surrounding double citizenship.

@JudithSanchez-ht6jn

Жыл бұрын

Well the descendants of Italians are returning to the land where their forefathers came. Sad 😢 that Argentina who after WW11 was the most rich reserve of the continent and USA 🇺🇸 came second and the most greatest president Franklin D. Roselyn a genius rise the nation to the most greatest country

@fjp3305

Жыл бұрын

I guess that's why Argentinians speak Spanish with an Italian accent.

@Felipe.Taboada.

Жыл бұрын

@@JudithSanchez-ht6jn can you quote any bibliographical reference please?

@Felipe.Taboada.

Жыл бұрын

@@JudithSanchez-ht6jn bretton woods, marshall plan (running into debts the destroyed countries after the ww2 just as you're doing with ucrania which you pushed through measure into this war), imposing the dollar as the international currency that is what raised usa as the first world power through military force. _"the american dream..."_ Yeah yeah gfy

It was the promised land, until some certain fellow came to power

@xeriotti

Жыл бұрын

We could make nice cash making tshirts.... "certain fellow" and his face stenciled in the back

Who said they weren't still interested? Quality of life is pretty high in Argentina.

@thehylianloach9473

Жыл бұрын

Watch the video again, and pay attention this time

@lemondenaturel8399

Жыл бұрын

@@thehylianloach9473 Pero boludo, ¡Argentina potencia!

@karLcx

Жыл бұрын

Compared to Somalia, sure…

@incarteminerYT

Жыл бұрын

No, it is not. As the grandchild of Ukrainian immigrants I am still considering moving to Ukraine because even with the war they still have higher living standards.

@lemondenaturel8399

Жыл бұрын

@@incarteminerYT Lol

Despite Argentina's economic challenges and that finally the Argentine society is waking up to the false ideology of populism from both Peronism and the corrupt Kirchnerism. Argentina is one of the worlds most advanced multicultural societies whether they livE in harmony with each other whether they look Italian or German or Irish, British , Spanish there %100 percent Argentine to the bone that's what I love about Argentina! I hope one day Argentina could reach its former glory! VAMOS LIBERTARIOS VIVA LA LIBERTAD!🦁

@jmuller986

Жыл бұрын

😅🤣😂🤣😅🤣😂

So sad to see what argentina became. This country had so much wasted potential

@sutapasbhattacharya9471

Жыл бұрын

No mention of the genocide of various indigenous peoples [e.g Roca's 'Conquest of the Desert' massacring Patagonians, the Selk'nam in Tierra del Fuego, the Qom, Moquoit etc.] in Argentina in late 19th and early 20th Century - as was usual in white settler colonies. British financing of such massacres and settlements of colonists was often using money looted from India.

@loicrose1826

Жыл бұрын

@@sutapasbhattacharya9471 sad but why talking about this now? What can we do about this now? Better to look forward and prepare the futur;)

@sutapasbhattacharya9471

Жыл бұрын

@@loicrose1826 Really! Funny how in London where I live they they are building a memorial in Westminster to victims of German genocide. 2 weeks ago a 100 year old Nazi was jailed and this week the Eichmann tape recordings were in the news. Recently BBC and UK media highlighting Stalin's famine in Ukraine etc. Why are they talking about this now? The West is always talking about this if Nazis or Communists did these things but covering up the fact that the Colonial West did the same for much longer such as killing tens of millions of Indians by exporting our foodgrains for UK Food Security and even setting up Death Camps for victims.

@sutapasbhattacharya9471

Жыл бұрын

@@loicrose1826 Oh and in regard to Europeans attracted to Argentina -he forgot to mention how thousands of Nazi Germans were in Argentina in the 1930s and took in their fellows after the war!

@periclesjames

Жыл бұрын

@@sutapasbhattacharya9471 your country India and its caste system you do not mention ? The patagonians including all the teheulches. Selkirks . Ona were killed by settlers from europe not by local argentinian people . The patagonian race has been exterminated but their history and culture are highly respected

As a Mexican I'm extremely disappointed in Argentina. They don't have the narco problems and horrible crime that lets say , Mexico , Colombia and Brazil do. Yes the rest of the countries in LA have horrendous crime and unstable governments too , but I'm talking about major players . Argentina just blew it with terrible economics . I mean they blew it big time . The inflation in tgeir country is self inflicted . Just a a damn shame . But at least this humbled them ...

@ericpowell4350

Жыл бұрын

At one time, they were wealthier than the US.

@carlosacta8726

Жыл бұрын

Stop lying! Nothing will humble an Argie!

@henriconfucius5559

Жыл бұрын

@@EricM-gm5wz That's even more shameful for them. Being a shithole and continuing to be one isn't so shameful, but decaying from the top to the dirt... By your own doing?

@andyigwe7119

Жыл бұрын

@@EricM-gm5wz funny and sad. Similar story with Nigeria. Great potential but self inflicted disaster

@rominaferreira1267

Жыл бұрын

Humbled us? What do You know about us? Have you been here? What you are saying so lightly paints yourself more than us, do you like it when foreigners say all Mexicans are narcos?

You'd be doing yourself a big favour visiting Argentina, especially Buenos Aires. For most it's a very long hall, but worth the travel. Very incredible and unique.

@elfulano5884

Жыл бұрын

*haul ("hall" is a foyer which joins the rooms of a house).

@singlah

Жыл бұрын

Actually, I disagree. I went with high expectations and left disappointed. It is a depressing place and while I didn't have any negative experiences, Buenos Aires did not wow me at all ( even though I wanted it to). The currency situation is a mess. You can't really use your debit or credit cards because the official exchange rate was ridiculous. So your best option was to find underground money changers who would give you a good rate only if you have lots of cash to exchange.

@periclesjames

Жыл бұрын

@@singlahBuenos Aires is a city with 48 neighbourhoods and its feeling changes rapidly depending where you are . Palermo Soho is my favourite barrio and it is very vibrant and gorgeous

@juzores1

Жыл бұрын

Really? I don't think so.

@PUAlum

Жыл бұрын

@@singlah i visited in the mid-1970's-----and had the same impressions. It was a depressing place. I did love a lot about the culture and food. Had a goodish time. I'd like to visit Patagonia.....but that's all.

This channel is really good

Espero que te vaya bien con tu canal angloparlante. :D

It is a pity, it is a great country that lost their way. I heard a lot of people blaming the Peronism......

@monolithfighter6097

Жыл бұрын

And it is their fault, ours too for voting them.

@antoniosingson1791

Жыл бұрын

This is NO different from the Philippines. It was the most prosperous in east Asia after ww2, only next to Japan. Now, it is even close to the bottom-heap of SE Asia. Oh well, the Latin curse as usual. See Spain and Portugal in Europe? They're also behind in W Europe compared to their siblings to the north..

@manuelcruz836

Жыл бұрын

I'd say that it's more like ANTI-peronism's fault... but, in the end, its an unresolved political economy issue. Right now, there's an implicit corollary of reactionary positions (be it on the left, right, conservative, you name it).

@estanciacampo9814

Жыл бұрын

@@manuelcruz836 jaja caradura. El peronismo manjea y.destruye todo hace 50 años..por favor

@estanciacampo9814

Жыл бұрын

Yes. Peronism have been destroying all the last 50 years. Sick people,so stupid and no education

If Argentina had fulfilled its economic potential the way Canada has done (and Argentina and Canada were quite similar in this respect in the early 20th century), then Argentina would have continued to attract loads of Europeans (and eventually also from other continents) after WWII, no different than Canada, the US, or Australia.

Belle epoque Argentina 1880-1930

@stirpsromanica

Жыл бұрын

Toda la decada del 30 fue muy buena para argentina

@suenoshumedospro5240

Жыл бұрын

La epoca dorada fue del 20 al 30 y del 40 al 55... y algunos momentos en los 60s donde no hubo gobiernos militares.. el resto puras dictaduras

@matiasarganaraz2154

Жыл бұрын

@@suenoshumedospro5240 belle epoque 1880 1930 Cerca de ser potencia 1940 a 1965

Argentina seeing German immigrants before WWII: Yes, immigrants! Welcome! Argentina after WWII: *Well that guy looked familiar...it's definitely just my eyes* The real reason to move to Argentina is because they're a based capybara territory, and access to endless chimichurri

@fernandocavuto1449

Жыл бұрын

The Nazis that escaped to Argentina weren't poster boys. No one knew who Eichmann and Mengle were. Remember, false passports, lack of social media like we have today, chico.

@christian7.475

Жыл бұрын

I see you all over youtube man we like the same videos

Many Europeans did not leave, they nationalised and at the time they had to give up their original citizenship. And also, regarding Italians, we are the country with the most Italians outside Italy in quantity and proportion. I am one of them

All these years I thought Germans made the most of immigrants to Argentina! Thanks for the heads-up 👍

@danieleyre8913

Жыл бұрын

Where would you ever get that stupid idea from?

The region from Spain known as Galicia was a mainly rural area where people spoke the Galician language, and few spoke Spanish. The poor rural background and the fact that they could barely speak Spanish, if at all, made them a common target for mockery and stereotyping, from the wealthier Argentinians.

I asked my friend’s European abuelo why he moved to Argentina. Apparently it is a good place for Europeans. There were nine reasons!

man that is cool history. Knew about “Italian Argentinians” and have certainly heard many of the nazi hunting stories after wwii, but had no idea of the extent of that immigration history.

@GabrielMontgomery10

Жыл бұрын

many? a few many nazi went directly to US

Are you the same guy than the Gaming Investigators channel? Great video though!

what software was used to narrate this?

4:03 Interested in name and source of this picture.

Argentines are Italians(70%) who speak Spanish. Americans are Germans who speak English (not the majority), because there are other ethnic groups as well.

They wanted the free helicopter trips that those lovely generals organised followed by a camping trip to the Falklands and a brief spell of imprisonment.

Argentina was, was was was . In the past . But its present is a disappointment

@pablov1532

Жыл бұрын

Still is better than any other country in Latin America...

@og5522

Жыл бұрын

@@pablov1532 In what way ?🤗😂

@og5522

Жыл бұрын

@@pablov1532 In what way ?. Argenzuela has 50% of poverty, 50 % of inflation, has no currency and it's a Latino brown country, but more importantly it's a socialist/comunist country. 😂😂

@km7000

Жыл бұрын

@@og5522 Argentina is not a brown country like what. They are white

@ezequiel6238

Жыл бұрын

@@og5522 Hi, im from argentina. Yes we have a lot of inflation and a lot of serious social conditions in relation with the first world but we are still a lot more advance than the rest of latin america(except Chile). Just look at the other countries hdi, argentina scores many decades higher than the majority. Argentina is 40 years in the future in comparison to Bolivia, Peru, Paraguay, Colombia and ecuador and 20 years in the future if we compare it to brazil. The country is not brown. Argentina is white, 98 percent of the population is white or mestizo and people with full european ancestry are like 70% of the population. We are by any standard whiter than countries like the us or canada, just come and visit.

This is also when Brits started giving sports to Argentina, football and rugby mostly.

@LeMerch

Жыл бұрын

Football is a global sport, not British… and yes rugby travelled over but with the 1 million Irish who went over I think

@Digital111

Жыл бұрын

@@LeMerch Football is a global sport now, but the sport itself and first associations started in the UK and spread with colonialism and emigration

@LeMerch

Жыл бұрын

@@Digital111 actually its the other way around

Why haven't the video included, even mentioned Brazil and Uruguay??

@gustavoabreu3097

Жыл бұрын

because the video is about argentina

As a italo_argentine this is very accurate, pd get me out of here pliz

You are doing great work.

@sutapasbhattacharya9471

Жыл бұрын

No mention of the genocide of various indigenous peoples [e.g Roca's 'Conquest of the Desert' massacring Patagonians, the Selk'nam in Tierra del Fuego, the Qom, Moquoit etc.] in Argentina in late 19th and early 20th Century - as was usual in white settler colonies. British financing of such massacres and settlements of colonists was often using money looted from India.

@JuanPablo-vw7ko

Жыл бұрын

Our fathers were doing a great work.Nowadays the situation is not like 100 years ago.....sad to say that.....

@JuanPablo-vw7ko

Жыл бұрын

@@sutapasbhattacharya9471 thanks to Gen. Roca now, 80% of the Patagonia is in Argenrina's hands. That was the target of his campaign and not to kill people or even less to exterminate the locals.Yes, it was a war if you want and people die in there.

@sutapasbhattacharya9471

Жыл бұрын

There is another well-known fact about European emigration to Argentina that this video omits - which I mentioned to some Greco-Argentine racist who responded to my original comment [which I copied] below a comment asking about where the indigenous people are - saying that Argentina is 100s of times better than India [I am not even an Indian citizen - LOL] is that 12,000 Nazi Germans lived in Argentina in the 1930s and after the war the Europeans who kept going to Argentina were Nazi Germans such as Dr Mengele and Eichmann escaping the War Crimes Tribunals. It is no surprise that Argentina has had so much backlash given racist jibes made by the Argentine President that Mexicans came from Aztecs, Brazilians from the Jungle and Argentines on ships from Europe. Argentines famously pretend that they are Europeans but 9 percent are of African slave origin and some of the indigenous tribes still survive.

@sutapasbhattacharya9471

Жыл бұрын

@@JuanPablo-vw7ko Such denial of such facts is commonplace [many Latinos deny that the Spanish Requirement of 1513 is real and get angry if it is mentioned]. Try reading the article 'Argentinian Founding Father Recast as Genocidal Murderer' in the Guardian from 2011 - Roca was rather like US hero President Andrew Jackson who did similar things in Georgia and Florida. In May 2022 the BBC reported that a trial found the Argentine state guilty of the massacre of Qom and Moquoit people in 1924. Again such things are not unique to Argentina. After the US seized Northern Mexico, the California Governor Peter Burnett stated in the Assembly in 1851 that a War of Extermination will continue until the Indian race is extinct. And the European settlers massacred natives in Northern California to the verge of extinction.

1:47 Where is Great Britain on this chart?

Argentina was the only country being considered rich in 1900 and poor 100 years after.

@danielcalero3929

9 ай бұрын

mala apreciación... Cuando Argentina era rica, lo era por el monto de su comercio internacional, pero la mayor parte de su pueblo era pobre.

@pjlaraujo

9 ай бұрын

@@danielcalero3929 "I want to be rich as an Argentinian". It was a common phrase in the XIX Europe.

@danielcalero3929

9 ай бұрын

@@pjlaraujo I am Argentine, a history teacher, and I had a European grandmother who immigrated to Argentina at that time. Are you trying to tell me that I'm wrong? I reiterate: Most of the people were a mix of lower-middle class and lower class.

@pjlaraujo

9 ай бұрын

@@danielcalero3929 Appeal to authority. LOL

@pjlaraujo

9 ай бұрын

@@danielcalero3929 No, profesor. Who am I to tell you that you are wrong? 🤣

Argentina is arguably the father of populism starting from the Peronist movement in the 50s. For this reason, it is the only country that has experienced bankruptcy the most frequent than any country in the world (Pakistan comes close) and has to seek IMF help numerous times (at least 5 times). Imagine a prosperous country before WW I and now is practically bankrupt even though the country has plentiful natural resources and land. History repeats itself if one does not care to learn from it. Since then populism spreads worldwide and practically all countries that adopt this ideology to win power plunges the country into bankruptcy. Greece, Venezuela, Sri Lanka and many more.

@gregoriosmith6994

Жыл бұрын

And the USA.

@shauncameron8390

Жыл бұрын

@@gregoriosmith6994 The US hasn't gone bankrupt yet.

@gregoriosmith6994

Жыл бұрын

@@shauncameron8390 Just a few more months, and then we all will see.

Let's not forget Peron's wrecking of the stability of the currency, a problem Argentina has STILL not overcome!

En mi opinion, el declive de Argentina comenzó con Peron

@marceloaramayo3195

2 жыл бұрын

Agarrá los libros. Comenzó antes de Perón. El primer golpe de estado fue en 1930 y derrocó a Yrigoyen, de la U.C.R., un partido que en ese entonces tenía gran apoyo entre la clase media. Después vino la "década infame" (cuando las elecciones eran una farsa) y recién después vino Perón. De 1955, cuando lo voltearon a Perón, a 1983, no tuvimos ni un solo presidente que pudiera durar los años que tenía que durar. Y con la democracia no nos fue mejor. Alfonsín y De la Rua tuvieron que entregar el poder anticipadamente (y ni Alfonsín ni De la Rua eran peronistas. Alfonsín tuvo que renunciar por la hiperinflación que él generó y De la Rúa por el estallido social de diciembre 2001) Macri es el primer (y hasta el momento, el único) presidente no peronista que logró concluir su mandato. Lo cual no habla nada bien de la salud de la democracia argentina

@j.c.serranosanchez3190

Жыл бұрын

@@marceloaramayo3195 Yo tengo mucha familia en Argentina, pues una tia bisabuela mia y seis de sus hermanos emigraron en 1917 a Argentina.. Conozco la historia de primera mano, pues algunos de "mis" Argentinos estan de vuelta en España. Yo mismo he estado en Argentina varias veces, la ultima en 2006.Tenemos aqui tambien politicos de asendencia argentina, que quieren argentinizar España

@JudithSanchez-ht6jn

Жыл бұрын

@@j.c.serranosanchez3190 no los deje porque arruinan a España que no necesita más ruina.

@j.c.serranosanchez3190

Жыл бұрын

@@JudithSanchez-ht6jn Los argentinos son mas que hermanos nuestros, por eso pueden venir aqui cuando quieren y estar todo el tiempo que quieranSon mas que huespedes.. Al ser hermanos nuestros, tenemos el derecho a tratarles mal (y ellos a nosotros tambien). Familias que se pelean, se aman

My german grandpa lived there he said he loved it

If it weren't for the seemingly perpetual economic mess, it would still be very attractive to migrate there. For many, it is still a "bucket list" place to visit.

Latinos: Por que te crees europeo?

@Karthagast

Жыл бұрын

¿Sabes lo que significa "latino"?

@ivanmacgar6447

Жыл бұрын

Los latinos auténticos son europeos.

The only country which was first world and slipped back towards the third. A cautionary tale for others

@javierperalta7648

Жыл бұрын

Only central Argentina was ever 'first world'. The North and South were still quite underdeveloped and people there always had a much worse standard of living

@savioblanc

Жыл бұрын

Venezuela?

@alexandrejuve1305

Жыл бұрын

@@javierperalta7648 In the 20s most of rural ares in the developed world was underdeveloped

@javierperalta7648

Жыл бұрын

@@alexandrejuve1305 well personally I believe the concept of 'developed nation' cannot be applied to any country before the 50s, at least. No country was truly developed before that. Some were industrialized, but that is not the same as developed.

@DonVinny

Жыл бұрын

@@javierperalta7648 you are so right

Interesting

4:35 “SoCcer” 🤦‍♂️

Mein Opa also choose Argentina,his name is Mendela

@cobussmith4303

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Why Macri in the thumbnail?

Imagine leaving Europe for Argentina and thinking “this is the next big thing I’m gonna come here and live in paradise like a king forever” and they they actually got their and had to live thier🤣🤣😭100 years later and Argentina is still 3rd world

@tahiti1

Жыл бұрын

You've clearly never been to Buenos Aires if you think that you would be living "third world" it outclasses all US cities and many European ones too!! And if youre earnings euros/pounds or dollars, you really do live like a king!!

@ballsonyourmomschin1781

Жыл бұрын

@@tahiti1 “out classes all us and European cities” bro it’s literally 3rd world

@tahiti1

Жыл бұрын

@@ballsonyourmomschin1781 clearly you havent lived there, and clearly you dont understand the definition of third world. If you would like to experience "third world" I suggest you pay a visit to St. Louis, Baltimore, Detroit or even Washington DC!!

@ballsonyourmomschin1781

Жыл бұрын

@@tahiti1 I suggest u go to Argentina if u want 3rd world since it literally is one

@tahiti1

Жыл бұрын

@@ballsonyourmomschin1781 I'm in Argentina thanks!

was a good and powerful country...rich... not anymore saddly, we have a very bad BAD economy

Now foreigners don't want to go Argentina, and the Argentinians want to leave Argentina.

Argentina is a charming country, but it’s impossible to develop a happy life there because high level of competivity between them,.. not solidary politics, everybody there wants to be the most clever and the number one..,

@alberpajares4792

Жыл бұрын

Wild capitalism only benefits the minory,.. and that’s a fact..,

Europeans those days loved to eat beef. Arg. .beef is of the very best quality, even today. So the Europeans said let us at least have good eats! Lol

@sutapasbhattacharya9471

Жыл бұрын

No mention of the genocide of various indigenous peoples [e.g Roca's 'Conquest of the Desert' massacring Patagonians, the Selk'nam in Tierra del Fuego, the Qom, Moquoit etc.] in Argentina in late 19th and early 20th Century - as was usual in white settler colonies. British financing of such massacres and settlements of colonists was often using money looted from India.

@walterpayton2120

Жыл бұрын

@@sutapasbhattacharya9471 but why on this thread about beef? Do Indians love a juicy cut? 🥩

@stirpsromanica

Жыл бұрын

@@sutapasbhattacharya9471 Y eso que tiene que ver? No fue un genocidio, fue una guerra. Los indios hacian malones, raptaban mujeres y saqueaban pueblos en la frontera, lo logico era detenerlos. Cuando en la India aprendar a hacer sus necesidades en inodoros veni a hablar de historia argentina, si? 👍

There are 5 million arabs there as well, mentioned them also

@sutapasbhattacharya9471

Жыл бұрын

No mention of the genocide of various indigenous peoples [e.g Roca's 'Conquest of the Desert' massacring Patagonians, the Selk'nam in Tierra del Fuego, the Qom, Moquoit etc.] in Argentina in late 19th and early 20th Century - as was usual in white settler colonies. British financing of such massacres and settlements of colonists was often using money looted from India.

@periclesjames

Жыл бұрын

@@sutapasbhattacharya9471 this was done by settlers mainly british and welsh in their colonization of Chubut and Rio Negro . Argentinian people did not massacre the patagonians and today in 2022 we deeply miss this indigenous incredible culture of the telehueches the original inhabitants of argentinian patagonia .

@jasonhaven7170

Жыл бұрын

@@periclesjames They did massacre them and your country is racist

@sutapasbhattacharya9471

Жыл бұрын

@Joaquín Cerutti LOL - How could the Mapuches whose culture was present in the region [both Argentina and Chile] for two and a half thousand years [the actual people may have been there much longer] not be indigenous? The concept of an 'Argentina' or a 'Chile' created by Conquistadors and their descendants came longer after they were present in Patagonia. Other Argentinians in these comments such as El tecnico [see original comment by Username Tlou Tlou2 "Where are the Original Argentinians" thread] and Joaquin Manzanos [original comment by Loic rose's thread] have supported my assertions and it was El tecnico who mentioned the Mapuches himself - he is of Guarani-Spanish descent himself and gives actual scholarly information on the DNA studies showing the true ancestry of Argentines [who - as I pointed out used to boast that they were supposedly 'Europeans' and Argentine presidents Macri and Fernandez have recently caused outrage saying that Brazilians come from the jungle and Mexicans come from Aztecs/'Indians'].

@kentuckyfriededgar

Жыл бұрын

@@sutapasbhattacharya9471 natives deserve it

Economics Nation: In addition, the rapid European economic recovery after the war Also Economics Nation: *shows the Russo-Ukrainian War* ah yes...totally WWII. You definitely know your conflicts, comrade

the only reason is the salaries that are low in Argentina. If it wasn't for this many people would migrate there. People go where they can earn more if they have to live abroad

In Holland starts to be a muslim country . Argentina here I come !!!

Hubiera sido interesante (como se decía antes) que la Argentina sea el competidor del sur de los EEUU, pero no creo que eso pase, no paso antes porque lo importantes es mantenerse.

I have to wonder if Argentina would be as rick as Australia if the British had taken control of Argentina instead of the Spanish.

@andyigwe7119

Жыл бұрын

I have actually thought about this. All the places Britain colonised and replaced the local population either by genocide or other means are now 1st World countries. USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand and make up the 5 eyes. What is it about the British that made their colonies so successful and those of Portugal, Spain and France not. None of those countries colonies have attained 1st World status. The British even achieved the same feat with Hong-Kong minus the genocide of the local population.

@felixyusupov7299

Жыл бұрын

@@andyigwe7119 Southern Europe in general is more corrupt compared to Northern Europe. The problem is cultural.

@martnlavoria

Жыл бұрын

@@andyigwe7119 I believe you may be drifting towards an idea that can lead to a dangerous path of thinking and that I dare say it obscures the underlying truth. In the examples you mentioned (aside from HK which is just a city) those could industrialize and grow quickly because their relatively inclusive institutions which they fought hardly to obtain would not block new techs, innovation or creative destruction. This was not the case in other European colonies because their dynamic would be quite the opposite of those in e.g. Australia and USA which lacked a native population or resources to be extracted, and thus colonialism operated very differently. In many places colonized in Asia, the Caribbean and South America, citizens had little chance of winning such a fight because colonists imposed a new brand of extractive institutions or took over whatever extractive institutions they found, in order to be able to extract valuable resources, ranging from spices and sugar to silver and gold. That is, they put in motion a set of institutional changes that would make the emergence of inclusive institutions very unlikely. You can find many examples of british colonies that had the same approach as e.g. the spanish or the portuguese. In some places they explicitly stamped out whatever burgeoning industry or inclusive economic institutions existed. Most of these places, thus, would be in no situation to benefit from industrialization of the 19th or even the 20th century.

@eltecnico9541

Жыл бұрын

@@andyigwe7119 Most of the British colonies are a failure and all were replaced, New Zealand has a population descended from the Autochthonous is a success and is also the only successful small country, Canada, the United States and Australia are giants

@cesarventollano6294

Жыл бұрын

Una estupidez, Argentina alguna vez fue la más rica del mundo sin ser colonia de los piratas británicos, esas ideas solo las hacen los anglosajones frustrados, el norte de europa es lo peor que le pude pasar el mundo, solo saben expandir el racismo.

Meaning is clear, the more right you move, the more u lose economically and hence the negative feedback cycle.

After Yrigoyen, Argentina became a basket case. And still is.

Someone once told me that Argentina stop competing against Canada, USA, Australia, New Zeland because they don't speak english lol

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Argentina failed to industrialize (of course I am not saying it had no factories but I mean industrialize so it would be one of top 5 countries per GDP in that aspect too) and that's the main thing. Being agricultural powerhouse was great at the beginning of the 20th century, but afterwards the century belonged to industrialized powers. It's a lesson for future too, countries should look for new technologies and not be sluggish to implement them and create new kinds of businesses

@danieleyre8913

Жыл бұрын

Wrong. Argentina industrialised.

@lkrnpk

Жыл бұрын

@@danieleyre8913 then why it didn't become numero uno?

@danieleyre8913

Жыл бұрын

@@lkrnpk Because it had crap governments. Just about every developed nation has industrialised, most have since de-industrialised, so industrialising has nothing to do with becoming number one.

ARGENTINA IS THE NEXT VENEZUELA...

Patagonia, Argentina is the island of Dr. Moreau. Once you get kicked out the Garden of Eden, dragged across the burning sands of North Africa, boat across the Straits of Dardanelle into East Asia and locked up in the Mountains you just simply want to go home. You'll come out with the vengeance similar to White walkers though.

Italians from new york went to go live in argentina

@danieleyre8913

Жыл бұрын

If someone is from New York: They can’t be Italian.

What is so funny about these videos is that they tell the total amount of Europeans inmigrants that went to Argentina (between 1900-1930 and 1946-1952)... only half of those stayed... about 3 millions. But in 1960´s the immigration from countries around Argentina (mostly w/native population) also started to grow through those years because Argentina was at that time "still wealthy" -by far- from those countries... the estimated amount of people, globally, is also 3 millions... they still have more kids than those "European" ones, or even mixed between each other (which is really good!)... so, Why people still calls Argentina as "European"????

Why did Europeans immigrate to Argentina? It was all about risk management and long term bets. Argentina was an incredibly wealthy nation that appeared promising at the prime moment of immigration. This bet did not pan out as well over time. But you make a plan of action, you commit, and then you find it hard to extricate.

The verypoint Argentina said have you paid for this produce. Raw material? With money

De donde arribo el hombre? Del mono. De donde arribo el argentino? De los barcos.

3:08 I mean, yeah the goverbement was racist, but this wasn't the reason for the preference to northern europeans, it was because of their culture. The southern europeans where known for not following the rules, and the governement wanted immigrants that would follow their instructons so they coul engineer this new society as they wanted (there was a huge influence from Comte and Positivism in general)

👌👌👌👌

For the italians i think they stopped in the 60s

I have a question. People from Spain are Europeans? Because I hear a lot about the descendants of Europeans and apparently are not including the Spanish. Am I wrong?

@javierperalta7648

Жыл бұрын

No we are African. Stupid question from a stupid person

@Karthagast

Жыл бұрын

LOL. You need a brain!!

@pabloagusti5104

Жыл бұрын

Interesting question. Spain is European 100%. That said, your sensation might come from the fact that the spanish colonized so much territory and latin america has an already defined identity (or identities). Perhaps that separate them from the rest of immigrants (and their descendants) in the mind of some people. Nobody talks often about "swedish-americans" or "dutch-americans", but "latin-americans" are a category on its own due to their numbers and significance. Thus, people tend to recognize (for example) swedish and their descendants as "immigrants" but latin-americans are called simply latin-americans because of their already defined identity, despite having tons of european blood and cultural traits. A simple matter of classification. But Spain is 100% european even in the eyes of northern Europe. There's simply no doubt on that.

@pabloagusti5104

Жыл бұрын

@Joaquín Cerutti I know it is a stereotype, but the average US citizen isn't famous for their knowledge about history, geography, etc.

@jaengen

Жыл бұрын

Did you not study history or geography in school? Or ever look at a map of Europe?

Brasil na mesma época dividiu a imigração em massa com Argentina e Estados Unidos, tanto que o Brasil tem as maiores colônias de italianos e japoneses fora de seus países e a segunda de alemães atrás só dos Estados, a maior COLÔNIA de portugueses, inclusive vivem 6x mais portugueses pro Brasil que em Portugal, as maiores colônias de libaneses e sírios, inclusive mais desses cidadãos vivem no Brasil que em seus próprios países, a terceira colônia de ucranianos fora de seu país, atrás somente de Canadá e Estados Unidos, então o Brasil superou e muito em quantidade, porcentagem e variedade de imigrantes em relação a Argentina e Canadá, russos , poloneses, armênios austriacos irlandeses, holandeses e muito mais, espanhóis no Brasil só é superado pela Argentina

@joaosalgado1949

Жыл бұрын

Isso é tudo história passada. Na atualidade a realidade é completamente ao contrário. Brasileiros e Argentinos Venezuelanos e outros latinos a viver e a querer viver na Europae nos EUA.... a pobreza insegurança e falta de economia são as razões.

@atlas567

Жыл бұрын

@@joaosalgado1949 Por outro lado muitos europeus e ESTADUNIDENSES também estão mudando pro Brasil, Argentina e Paraguai, por acaso já está sabendo da imigração em massa de alemães suíços e austriacos principalmente pro Paraguai, vocês estão se achando muito, principalmente porque a Europa está a caminho da miséria e já já vcs que estarão migrando em massa pra América de novo, porque a Europa na verdade sempre foi de Terceiro Mundo, só é " rica e desenvolvida" às custas dos pagadores de impostos dos Estados Unidos, mas a Rússia está revelando exatamente o que é a Europa, um gigante com pés de barro, só isso

@mick2784

Жыл бұрын

@@joaosalgado1949 Todos nos estamos na torcida para que seu povo como um todo volte para sua terra natal... Faça um esforço pq Brasil não e hotel para alocar gente perdida na vida!

@alovioanidio9770

Жыл бұрын

Jesus, o nível de portugas graduados em estudos socio-economicos brasileiros impressiona. Sempre a analisar o poço sem fundo do Bananil.

@mick2784

Жыл бұрын

@@alovioanidio9770 O nível de decadência do seu povo e impressionante, sempre vindo aqui dar o toba no sul, se nunca te avisaram prostituição e putaria e lá nos EUA, de preferência aprenda a falar Britânico zé ruela Tupi-viking.

in the 1950-1970 period there's that economic drop due to Dictatorship

i meant like they have a choice after WWII.....

The land became a haven of WW2 Criminals....and instead of getting punished for their war crimes, subjugated prime settlers and were forced to oblivion in return. UN must take step bringing this hidden subject before the worlds intimacy.

Where are the original Argentinians.

@j.c.serranosanchez3190

Жыл бұрын

absorved by the mass of inmigrants

@amadiohastruck4331

Жыл бұрын

Ded

@wandererj4437

Жыл бұрын

raped by European

@murakyo79

Жыл бұрын

Got mixed with the inmigrants, creating the modern argentine people.

@jasonwilliamtjandra

Жыл бұрын

@@murakyo79 Yeah they become Mestizos except it is the newer one compared to those north of Argentina & Brazil

In short: Law of large numbers, lower population countries have greater variables. So ofc Argentina with a low population will have larger proportion of europeans

thanks for Messi though

Colonization or immigration?

@kentuckyfriededgar

Жыл бұрын

Inmigration

@ComeBackKid1

Жыл бұрын

@@kentuckyfriededgar colonization

මම ධනවත් මම වාසනාවන්තයි ආදරණීය විශ්ව මාතාවට ස්තුතියි ස්තුතියි ස්තුතියි

It's still attractive to Europeans!! It's a far better place to live than the USA. There are many Digital Nomads & retirees now living here and there is a new Digital Nomad visa. Still a very foreigner friendly country, great quality of life and high quality public infrastructure. Like in Italy and Spain quality of life is high despite the politics, not because of it!!

@drenbajgora8299

Жыл бұрын

In what world is Argentina a far better place to live than the USA?😂

@tahiti1

Жыл бұрын

@@drenbajgora8299 ive lived in both. Argentina is far superior. Two crumbling indebted nations economically, but at least Argentina invests in its public infrastructure and has universal healthcare, no gun problems, etc, etc.

@lifeline.6144

Жыл бұрын

@@tahiti1 true but I heard the people there are hateful and racist but so is the USA

@ComeBackKid1

Жыл бұрын

@@tahiti1 All those problems you mentioned are in a few cities in a HUGE country , you're brainwashed.

@sodakk17

Жыл бұрын

Now that remote work is becoming common, I hope to live a few years in southern Argentina. Amazing place.

I saw a very native argentine call another Latin American “black” who was of lighter complexion than the Argentine. I died. Argentines try so hard to be white even if they are clearly native looking. Poor confused people.

@augustoferre9707

Жыл бұрын

Even though there are people in Argentina which long to be white europeans, most of times calling somebody "Negro (Black)" is not a derogatory way to call someone, but an affectionate one, it really depends on the context they saying. This due to the fact Argentina never had racial segregation, unlike the USA which lasted till the 60's, so racism in Argentina is a bit different.

@eltecnico9541

Жыл бұрын

An Argentine calling you black is something positive and not negative like other parts of the world 🤣🤣🤣

@dickmonkey-king1271

Жыл бұрын

It's a good idea to be informed about different cultures, and not just transpose our ideas and ideals onto theirs. Not every nation enslaved Africans. Words like 'negro' have very different meanings and connotations.

@kentuckyfriededgar

Жыл бұрын

1. Negro isnt a Bad Word 2. Most Argentines are white

@00Julian00

Жыл бұрын

@@kentuckyfriededgar Nope. Not true. Do your research buddy .

They like to tango