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ASUS Z13 ACRONYM - 2023 Version Comparison and Long Rambling Review!
Probably the weirdest device of the year, but I can't help but really like it. Let's compare the Z13 Acronym version to the regular Z13.
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Also I did a fun video with the Z13 on TabletPro's Channel:
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This is the exact video that I've been looking for.
真棒!学习了!非常棒的视频,刚刚从北京的ROG订购,预计还要等一周。等待的日子不好受,所以只能来看看视频过瘾了。谢谢
@lchen5282
Жыл бұрын
加价多少?是acronym版的吗
Completely agreed with the low wattage GPUs... I don't want to lug around a 16" laptop along with 280W power brick, which adds a ton of heft too. I want a 13 or 14" laptop, thin and light, and then tote it around with 130W charger and keep the whole package light. I don't have issue giving up that last 20-30% performance for "actual" mobility, I've jumped to Mac a few years ago for mobility and battery life with M1 and gave up on gaming, but this will now let me get back into Windows and gaming.
@PatrickButhmann
Жыл бұрын
So this is exactly what my logic has been. I travel extensively for work, and I like playing some relatively light games while I'm in hotel rooms or Airbnb's around the globe. I did run an Alienware M15 R4 for awhile, but that was pretty bulky and not terribly attractive to bring out in a business meeting, and between the power brick and the laptop, it was heavy to slog around airports. I switched to a MBP 16" for awhile, primarily for battery life (I figured it could do some gaming.....uhh...not really). I was always a big Surface Pro fan, so I've been eager to try out the Z13. I'm not sold on the Acronym styling (and it's never available), so I picked up a Z13 with RTX 4050 at Best Buy recently. And I must say, it's a pretty impressive machine. Very tempted to get rid of my Razer Blade 15 and keep the Z13 Flow instead (mostly play lighter titles such as CS:GO, Rocket League and Doom: Eternal, and several older RTS's). For example, I just weighed my Flow Z13 plus power brick (1944 grams, keyboard attached). Add in my external, 17" Asus portable monitor (XG17): 3050 grams, including monitor, Flow Z13 and power brick. My Razer Blade 15 with power brick: 2944 grams alone, no external monitor. So for basically 100 grams more, I get two displays, including one being 240 Hz, 17" FHD (with it's own battery, by the way).
@AJSHOPE
Жыл бұрын
I was able to snag the Acronym off of Amazon for MSRP a couple of days ago. The main reason I got it was for true portability. I wanted something that I could do on the go drone video editing with. I had a 15.6 inch laptop with an i7 and a 1060 that was my main computer and also my laptop, then I went to a desktop with a 3rd Gen Ryzen 7 / 3070 setup and added a 16 inch 2019 i9 / Radeon 5500M MacBook Pro for my "portable". Both laptops were not necessarily fun to lug around from Missouri to Hawaii, especially when I didn't even really use them that much. I'm looking forward to my trip to Hawaii in November with the Acronym.
I picked up a lightly used/open box 2023 Z13 on Amazon for $1300 couldn't pass it up at that price. Even was able to get the 3yr extended warranty through Asus. Coming from the iPad Pro M1 and the Surface Pro 8 I'm blown away what this tablet can handle. It's actually quiet and can play just about any game with DLSS enabled. The Surface Slim Pen two works but the pen experience is pretty bad wobbly lines but I hardly use the pen anyways. Battery life sucks but that is a given for the size of the device. Anyways really happy with it and hope it lasts for years, fingers crossed had bad experiences with Asus in the past.
thanks for review and showing how pen works most of the reviewers skips that part , as an artist appreciate you for showing that
Thanks you for the information! I'm considering this device as one that replaces all my other gaming, officing, and tablet devices. Seems pretty good in that sense.
Ive seen a bit of people complain about the keyboard being confusing but I havent had much trouble using it at all. Adjusting to it pretty nicely, plus it looks really neat.
The increase in ram is a much bigger deal than most people think. We all want background apps running. Also, I am not sure why people are upset with the price, the 4070, 32 GB ram, pen, and 135W power supply are worth the 650 increase in price.
@ALEFA-ID
5 ай бұрын
The design is very bad 😊
@hodr1000
5 ай бұрын
@@ALEFA-ID Whats bad? I love it!!
BTW I did adjust some settings, GPU in eco mode, battery saver on always on and I am getting almost 6h30m, for my needs when not connected is great
@cbutters
Жыл бұрын
glad you were able to find battery preserving settings!
Nice review. Thanks!
how about Z13 within RTX 4060 version score? i just bought 4060 version sir
"probably went on a little too long on that point" 🤣- made me really laugh Pen tech..... I might take you up on that offer....
Weirdest but the greatest device ever! BTw - which fan was noisier during the performance test?
It's good to know the pen support is better with the original pen. Impressive performance from the 4050 considering it's the base variant. I just can't imagine the 3050 from previous year doing this. Will we get similar tests on the X13 as well? Would be looking forward to it!
Sold
Ouwch,,, For almost double (about 70% ) more of the original 4050 price, definitely not for everyone. Just bought the 4050 and loving it, sad it’s only 6Gb VRAM and 16Gb of RAM thought. My main use of this laptop is for work, but often use it for high demanding games. Just thinking of using the acronym in a meeting is kinda awkward. People will definitely stare at, and asking the price 😂. But those score thought,, just wow!!
@nemofish1351
Жыл бұрын
Wanna know what type of work are you doing to use Z13 for? Is it design base? As im thinking to get the 4050 version for design job that involve photoshop and basic modelling. Would be great thanks if you can answer.
Outstanding content my man. I'm gonna go with the z13 4060.
I really hope this thing is in stock later this year when I can afford it... Really like the idea of this thing as my main PC...
It’s sad that those corners aren’t removable. It’s the only thing stopping me from getting this, it just looks horrendous. Also changing the essentially perfect stand and making it worse for “cool looks” is so dumb
@celinek2690
Жыл бұрын
I like the rubber feet on the stand. I do wish the keyboard has BT because that vertical mode may be awesome but without a BT option it is pretty pointless.
Sir much obliged for your review, thoughts & the heads up on TDPs.
Can you test a 130 watt charger that’s not made by Asus? I remember last years z13 the non Asus usb c chargers were limited to 65w
Good job reviewing those devices. I've been subscribed to you for a long time. Can you review Windows gaming handhelds too?
thank you❤
That Acronym looks like an otterbox nightmare LOL I just ordered the reg z13 4050. A a graphic designer I think that should suffice.
@TheMad0ne
Жыл бұрын
P.S. This channel is underrated!
@chillvibes_6872
Жыл бұрын
No. You should’ve ordered the acronym. Hella nice brother. Plus you get more performance. Always buy the best ones, so you dont keep on buying.
@jimbobcheezeburger2020
Жыл бұрын
@@chillvibes_6872 32gb ram too
i found the surfacwpro8 with its pen had a major judder if u had even a thin screen protector on. So for about 5 7 months having a surface8Pro i never knew it was a screen protector issue. now my surfacepro8 is getting replaced with a {asus z13 Normal version 2023} i like the non acronym style more. also i found my self not using an iPadPro with pen as much but a good windows tablet in my use was used way more. i still say a normal laptop is good as u can bend the screen towards u more without it falling over Eg: if u was in a cafe at a high table top window seat but i do feel tablet pcs are becoming a way more better option.
I ordered it because of your video. Im in India so its almost a double of what it costs but Im a massive cyberpunk 2077 fan (600hrs) and this thing is so damn ugly with a junk tech look that it totally hooked me in. One thing to ask can this be use on a bed? Im coming from the surface 2 (gtx1050) and primarily use lapz on beds hence tablet with no lower exhaust make sense to me. Also in India they gave u like 2 years warranty extension pretty much free.
Great video. Are you planning on benchmarking 4k game performance?
Are you running those benchmarks at 100% fan? Those temps are very very low. Also undervolting the 4050 should allow maxing the clocks at 2370 at around 55watts stable.
I am sold. I need that acrnm! That is if I can find one that's still in stock
What about the Anker 140W PD3.1 Battery you quickly showed ? Can it charge the Z13 at 130W ? From the specs it seems the tablet can reach above 100W charging by uping the amps at 20V, but PD3.1 reach 140W by uping the voltage up to 28V and the max amp is 5A, so maybe with custom chargers we can only get up to 100W charging ? Did you open the ACRONYM edition ? Many people are wondering if it is possible to get the corners out or replaced somehow ? Thanks
@cbutters
Жыл бұрын
Anker doesn't work for more than 100w. Only the proprietary asus charger can do 130.
i thought the corner pieces was to protect the tablet from drops. i cannot find any case for this tablet.
Does your speakers sound normal? Mine sounds a little distorted, especially when I use the Dolby setting enabled. My biggest dislike is the keyboard lettering which is hard to see and not sure what some of the letters really mean. How do you change volume setting? There's a button to mute the speaker, but no volume control on the keyboard. Asus does not offer any other keyboard or even a replacement keyboard if you want to order one. They ask you to send it in for repair when you just want to buy a replacement. I'm disappointed that the keyboards are not interchangeable as I was hoping to use the one from a regular Z 13 flow. Thanks for your review now I know the keyboards aren't interchangeable.
One day I'll buy one
😍
Does a thunderbolt monitor lose any frames over z13 monitor? Assuming the same game settings.
I took the excel screenshot
when is that 4060 version releasing already ffs, here in aus we dont even get the 4050 version we get the 2050 and 4060 both 2023 models yet both are still not released
I just got my hands on one of these, pulled the trigger after watching your review! Do you know if a screen protector for the z13 (either 2022 or 2023) will fit the Acrnm version?
@Jojosselinn
8 ай бұрын
Did you find the screen protector finally ??
@PhilSo
8 ай бұрын
@@Jojosselinn Yeah I ended up getting a glass screen protector made for the normal Z13 (non-Acronym). It fits perfectly, the cutouts for the cameras / sensors up top are the same!
Important question, Does it have a Sim card slot? LTE compatible or only used with WiFi? What if there's no WiFi connection available? As a digital nomad gadget that would be just carrying a piece of metal. Please if anyone knows the answer let me know.
The palm rejection of the Z13 is terrible when writing with the pen.
So I just got mine and I thought the B key was a defect. But I see the same exact mark (missing paint) on yours. 🤔
Can you remove the bumpers if u can Can you show how to plz
How do they both perform with the 4090 dock does the extra ram in the Acronym make much of a difference ?
For a diference of 25-30 peak extra frames seems the 4070 is not worth it compared to the 4050 😮
Can you test the thunderbolt 4 capability? I heard this version has it. Like for external displays
the question is can architects run heavy 3D modelling softwares on it?
My question why was the z13 i9 2022 with the xg mobile rtx3080 on there instead of a xg mobile 3070
Does your surface pen 2 haptics work on the z13? Thanks
@CptAloevera
Жыл бұрын
No
Thank you for the review, i just ordered one, Amazon Germany has 4 in stock 🙂Have you got the 2 different keyboards? Or only one?
@cbutters
Жыл бұрын
I've seen people mention getting 2 keyboards, but in the USA, my package only had 1. The black white and yellow version.
@brain2cloud156
Жыл бұрын
@@cbutters In my german version was also only the more colorful Keyboard. But that Fantasy-Symbols are really one of the show stoppers for me...
@cbutters
Жыл бұрын
@@brain2cloud156 Yes, its my biggest complaint with the device, however after using it for a week or so, I've gotten used to it, and have learned to trust my muscle memory more, which has shown me I'm a much better touch typist than I even knew.
Hi, I got this Acronym version ai it looks and performs amazing! One inconvenient about the Acronym keyboard is that you don't have Page Up / Page Dn / Home /End keys or combinations. The standard version has Fn combinations with the arrow keys though, so for typing the Acronym version is unfriendly from this point of view. Couldn't find any info on how to workaround this. Anybody knows?
The surface pen had the same problem on a surface notebook. It is a problem with the pen.
Do you have a 4060 version that you can compare?
Thanks for the info one quick question does this keyboard feature backlit multiple color options ? Or is it just white
@cbutters
Жыл бұрын
Z13 (black version) does multiple colors, Z13-ACRONYM is only white.
Do you think the Asus pen could be good for drawing?
@cbutters
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely!, I think it works very well on this device.
@atomicave3100
Жыл бұрын
Ive been trying to use it for drawing but it has awful palm rejection, meaning when you put your hand before the pen your knuckle or palm will make unwanted marks. Theres an option to disable touch when using the pen but it only disables it when the pen is in its short range to the screen. I did find a way to disable touch completely which works perfect, just annoying having to do that every time. Seems like more of a microsoft/windows issue though.
@atomicave3100
Жыл бұрын
OH YEAH it also comes with different tips for the pen that you can change to your liking and trust me they all feel different some how haha
@Mikivli
Жыл бұрын
@@atomicave3100 i ended up getting it but returning it lol. it hurt my hand how small trackpad was and the pen on clip studio was not fluid at all 😭🤧
Is battery life any better than 2022 Z Flow? Returned that model because it was just plain awful when it comes to battery. 3-4 hours of web browsing and that's it.
@cbutters
Жыл бұрын
It's not any better. You can get creative with settings to try to mitigate things a bit, but you aren't getting more than 4-5 hours on this thing.
@corckie555
Жыл бұрын
@@cbutters even web browsing? 13th Intel series should be more efficient in low load tasks
@cbutters
Жыл бұрын
@@corckie555 Depends on how limited you have your processor in battery mode, but I'm seeing around 15W power draw average just browsing, the battery is a 56Wh size, thats 3.73 Hours.. If I play with it and lock down the processor (throttlestop) and minimum brightness I can get around 8 watt power draw which gets you 7 hours, but the stock silent profile in armoury crate isn't going to do that for you right out of the box..
@corckie555
Жыл бұрын
@@cbutters thank you. Unfortunately no go for me this year again, tinkering with throttle stop was just pain in the neck and battery life still was far from enough. Keep your vids coming!
@Fr4nkSanchez
Жыл бұрын
I get around 3 hrs web browsing, youtube, google sync, office work. Although it feels good not my style at all, I think ASUS never thinks about battery life, I had previous ROG Zephyr and battery was awful too. I am thiking moving to a thinkpad p15v gen3 and the only reason is battery life, I can have a decent graphics card and battery life around 8 hrs. I like surface pro 9 but I will keep looking
Hey man would you say that the acronym kickstand works in portrait mode better or about the same as the regular?
@cbutters
Жыл бұрын
Its in the video, but yes much better for portrait, the original will tip and can tip super easy if you try it. The Acronym is solid in portrait mode.
Will regular keyboard ver fit on Acronym?
Ordered one of these. Just waiting for it to be shipped. Also not a fan of the weird letters on the keyboard
batterry life in real world?
@cbutters
Жыл бұрын
In silent mode, seems to use 10-15w at idle, which means on a 56 wh battery... 4-5 hours when not doing much. If you lower brightness to the lowest level and turn off the keyboard backlight, seems to pull 7-8 watts minimum which would get you maybe 7 hours going to extreme lengths to preserve battery.
I ve not decided whether to buy Z13 or not after watching some videos about Scar 16. I love portability of Z13 while I crave for the power and gorgeous display of Scar 16. Any advice?
@cbutters
Жыл бұрын
It's a valid thought... I went from the Flow X16 which has a beautiful 16" display, to this 13" and while performance is great, display is great, great refresh rate and no ghosting, but the 16" size is still something I miss sometimes. It's going to come down to a matter of preference.
@kissofthecobra3761
Жыл бұрын
@@cbutters Can you stream on this tablet assuming you have a dedicated capture card?
@celinek2690
Жыл бұрын
The 2023 Asus X16 is good with a 240Hz refresh rate but has Intel instead of Ryzen.
@Fr4nkSanchez
Жыл бұрын
I got the Z13 ACRNM RMT02 literally was landing off a plane and got the notification that was in stock so I ordered. Its been almost three weeks now, I can say that I like the portability althouth I think surface pro 9 does a better job in using it as a tablet, the issue is the corners are bulky so you need to remove the keyboard. Battery life, I got around 2.5 - 3 hrs in web surfacing, spotify and office work (best battery life) Only one C port and one usb, for the price meh!
@celinek2690
Жыл бұрын
@@Fr4nkSanchez If you take the rubber covering off for the XG Mobile connection you have an additional usb-c.
Hello good morning I need good gaming laptop 💻 with small price Old or New please help me choose which is better for gamin like Acer or MSI or Asus or HP or Lenovo or Dell and other laptop 💻 thanks i want buy it now thanks very much from 9the Gen to 10 or 11 or 12
@celinek2690
Жыл бұрын
The 2021/2022 Asus ROG Flow X13 is a good one for a cheaper price for its specs. If you can find one.
Lol I like excel
How about battery life?
@Fr4nkSanchez
Жыл бұрын
I have been using it for around 3 weeks, in power mode best battery life, youtube, spotify and office work I get around 3 hrs
It’s a shame that it’s so expensive
@atomicave3100
Жыл бұрын
Pretty worth considering all the specs and crazy accessories you get with it. I dont think it will ever restock again either.
literally a $1000 Difference in price, is it worth it? No, not at all.
@cbutters
Жыл бұрын
$750 difference in the US
@Jerem0y
Жыл бұрын
@@cbutters it's at bestbuy in stock for 2700$ with my states sales tax and I just bought the 2023 z13 for 1890 maybe not quite $1000 but very close
@Jerem0y
Жыл бұрын
So yeah about $800
@celinek2690
Жыл бұрын
@@Jerem0y I have the same too! Just over 2700. Darn taxes. 😂
the design looks sooooo awful to the point that i will sacrifice the performance, and choose the older z13 instead......
This is what the Z13 always should have been
people like you should be at the top of the tech game not Linus.
Serif fonts on a keyboard. Just no.
They need to removed the edges!!!
Don't care about that gaudy Acronym design (who's going to be gaming while using that strap on? Waiting in line at Starbucks??) Asus just release the RTX 4060 and give us 32GB of RAM.
@TabletPro
Жыл бұрын
100% agree
honestly, ASUS Z13 ACRONYM look ugly asf. I rather remove that ugly surface around it.