Ask Adam Savage: Testing Fiction-Based Myths on MythBusters

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Tested member Andrew Green asked Adam, "As urban legends are often based on some sort of truth or historical evidence, did you prefer these as science-based experiments or did you prefer to recreate the elaborate fictional scenarios from movies knowing that they were often only created for storytelling purposes rather than actual real science?" Here's Adam's answer, and thank you, Andrew, for your question and support! Join this channel to support Tested and get access to perks, like asking Adam a question:
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  • @tested
    @tested3 жыл бұрын

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  • @ricardomeertens9165

    @ricardomeertens9165

    3 жыл бұрын

    Removing videos because the comment are hammering on about Disney their slave labor and the fact they fires someone because of het opinions is really censoring tested is being censored by Disney. Is just said in one of those comments I watch Adam since 2003 but not saying anything about this situation has lost my respect the world is not a comic book or story its real life Adam by supporting Disney you support child slavery and censoring because of opinions even wors is you delete the video and make it for premium members in less than 20 hours. Shame on you now you lost alot more respect.

  • @lexluthermiester

    @lexluthermiester

    3 жыл бұрын

    Adam, you are so awesome! You really held back on that one...

  • @jenlc1536

    @jenlc1536

    3 жыл бұрын

    Could the boulder test have hypothetically been done by narrowing down the most likely candidates based on the most common rocks in the area that the Indiana Jones scene took place (perhaps also taking appearance into account)? Then, the weight could be estimated instead of getting a real boulder. Would a sphere of that weight be considered too dangerous for the show? Two parallel tracks could be used for the boulder and the person but there's always the risk of it going off course.

  • @NinjaNezumi

    @NinjaNezumi

    3 жыл бұрын

    Busted! The Molasses Flood was in 1919, and it was not an urban legend. It killed a lot of people. Molasses was not primarily used as a sweetener. People used Honey and products such as Beet Sugar and fresh fruits. Molasses was primarily used as an oil for industrial purposes, up until a reliable synthetic oil was developed. The Great Molasses Flood of 1919 was a military stockpile commisseioned out to a private individual/business. The failure of the tanks caused a major military investigation and some of the earliest sub contractor regulations we have on the books.

  • @andrewgreenroom
    @andrewgreenroom3 жыл бұрын

    Hey folks, first of all I was absolutely delighted that Adam spent so long picking my question to pieces I think essentially my question was “did Adam prefer the urban myths rather than the movie myths?” One being based on a ‘possible’ truth rather than the other being based on a fantastical fictional scenario (in the majority of cases) I appreciate that both have physical elements that can be tested. Having heard my submission back it certainly reads that I claim one is fantastical and the other one is science. But I think Adam knew what he was answering and enjoyed picking the meat from the ‘statements’ I made about science. I certainly enjoyed making Adam’s brain work in dissecting the ‘assumption’ of what is and isn’t science. Certainly having one of my favourite people on the internet challenge the logic or reasoning in my question is most certainly a win in my eyes. Adam’s answer was to challenge everything. He challenged the wording of my question. Job done!!

  • @majuss06

    @majuss06

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think he knew as well. I also think he knew that he would not hurt your feelings when he used your question to highlight one of his major pet peeves, gatekeeping (4:10).

  • @GardnersGrendel

    @GardnersGrendel

    3 жыл бұрын

    I totally understood your question and was so surprised when Adam interpreted it the way he did.

  • @RickMeasham

    @RickMeasham

    3 жыл бұрын

    I got where you were coming from. Personally I hated the movie episodes. They were clearly paid promotions and the Mythbusters were forced to find something they could hook into.

  • @andrewgreenroom

    @andrewgreenroom

    3 жыл бұрын

    And for the record I in no way think that the movie myth episodes were any less brilliant than the urban ones. I just wanted Adam’s take on the two. I think my badly placed ‘actual real science’ tipped this into a heated topic rather than a fun one. 😬

  • @GamePlague

    @GamePlague

    3 жыл бұрын

    I instantly understood what you meant with the question but the more I think about it the more problematic it is to think of what a proper answer to it could be. A lot of urban myths can be complete nonsense and a lot of movie scenarios can be based (in varying degrees) on reality. JATO Rocket Car was a fantastical fictional scenario but it was also an urban legend. The only true difference between the two categories is whether somebody is claiming the event is something that has happened or is simply asking if it is something that could happen. You could just as easily swap those two categories around and the questions still work. "Did the historical molasses spill happen?" vs "Could a molasses spill I saw in a movie happen?" would both result in essentially the same mythbusters episode.

  • @cabbycabby1770
    @cabbycabby17703 жыл бұрын

    We all learned a valuable lesson today. Especially Andrew.

  • @munkykng416

    @munkykng416

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think we just observed how myths and urban legends propagate in the form of fan mail. SCIENCE!

  • @feeling-dizzie

    @feeling-dizzie

    3 жыл бұрын

    Poor Andrew, I interpreted his wording as saying the *movie* scenarios weren't created for science, not that the *mythbusters* recreations weren't for science!

  • @3.k

    @3.k

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@feeling-dizzie Yes, totally my interpretation as well.

  • @insane0042

    @insane0042

    3 жыл бұрын

    Andrew was testing Adam's Patience.

  • @tmi1234567

    @tmi1234567

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@insane0042 Adam busted Andrew's question fair and square. 🤣

  • @pacificostudios
    @pacificostudios2 жыл бұрын

    Archimedes's Mirror, both attempts, was a great college try, but hopeless from the beginning. The moment when Jamie stood directly at the focal point and announced that he was not burning to a crisp was comedy gold, and scientific silver.

  • @burunoshimoesu
    @burunoshimoesu3 жыл бұрын

    I remember my “wait a minute” moment watching mythbusters when I was a kid back in the early 2000s, that made me a Engineer today

  • @skld3

    @skld3

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good for you, I ended up as an unrecognised evil genius. :(

  • @lukehoffmann3461

    @lukehoffmann3461

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mine was the plane on a treadmill one Ijust remeber thinking those people are idiots the wheels on an airplane have nothing to do with how the plane takes off as long as they can still spin it realisticaky doesnt matter if they are spinning twice as fast as the plane moves

  • @kelsouthdeaton5093

    @kelsouthdeaton5093

    3 жыл бұрын

    What was it?

  • @dunigan3320

    @dunigan3320

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too 😅

  • @brandonjc13

    @brandonjc13

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@skld3 It's okay Skid3, one day you'll build that "-inator" that will devastate the whole tri-state area!

  • @heartofdawnlight
    @heartofdawnlight3 жыл бұрын

    "the only difference between science and screwing around is writing it down"

  • @danandoliver3613

    @danandoliver3613

    3 жыл бұрын

    Beat me to it

  • @iciclecold2991

    @iciclecold2991

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep!

  • @harrybetteridge7532

    @harrybetteridge7532

    3 жыл бұрын

    The reason you write it down is so somebody else at some other time can repeat the same experiment and show you can get the same results if you are correct.

  • @lauraodonoghue1348

    @lauraodonoghue1348

    3 жыл бұрын

    My science teachers said and repeatedly drilled this fact in the most boring ways. Adam saying it in my early 20s changed the way I thought about the world.

  • @MvZiCMaN
    @MvZiCMaN3 жыл бұрын

    That was "The A Team" steering the falling tank by firing it. Not F&F!!?? or did i miss something is the F&F movies?

  • @macmotuim4403

    @macmotuim4403

    3 жыл бұрын

    thank you. i cant believe i had to go this far down to find this comment

  • @forgotn42

    @forgotn42

    3 жыл бұрын

    To be fair, the F&F franchise had cars dropped from planes several times and launched a tank out of the front of another vehicle, so it's a pretty easy mistake to make.

  • @hejduken

    @hejduken

    3 жыл бұрын

    haha thanks for not having to comment it myself, I'll accept the miss tho, greater crimes have been made

  • @benmcmahan8189

    @benmcmahan8189

    3 жыл бұрын

    I thought the same thing, but definitely an easy mistake to make as Hollywood is over the top extremely often

  • @MvZiCMaN

    @MvZiCMaN

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hejduken all i could see was Liam Neeson yelling "FIRE!" and was like wait.... Liam wasnt in F&F lmao!

  • @chaos0547
    @chaos05473 жыл бұрын

    I think Andrew just used the wrong nomenclature - when he said "based in science" I think he meant the rules of physics are bent less in urban legends than they are in movies. Had nothing to do with testing methodology. At least that's how I take his question

  • @feeling-dizzie

    @feeling-dizzie

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think based on his wording he was saying the **movies** weren't based in science. Adam took that to mean the mythbusters tests weren't based in science

  • @bennu547

    @bennu547

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’s what I thought too. Urban myths are based on some real thing that supposedly happened. Movies are made up things that they tested

  • @GardnersGrendel

    @GardnersGrendel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep, Adam just totally mis-understood the question and assumed the worst.

  • @JosephDavies

    @JosephDavies

    3 жыл бұрын

    @David - I think that's what was meant, but the point is that it's a false assumption to make. At the very least, recognizing that it's an assumption and not fact is an important aspect of asking questions. That's why Adam focuses so much on whether something is testable or not; that's the most important part of science-based myth testing, not the source of the myth. It's certainly an interesting question though on its own: _are_ urban myths more often based in some historical reality? I somehow doubt it, but it would be very fascinating to devise a methodology to study it. My guess is that urban myths are just as often folk fiction as movie myths are Hollywood fiction. I might be wrong. Either way, I don't think it's a safe assumption to make simply on one's own sense of it.

  • @1pcfred

    @1pcfred

    3 жыл бұрын

    There is no such thing as just science. There is something called the scientific method though. The pursuit of science is the quest for the truth. No one has a monopoly on whatever that is though. In fact I am pretty sure if someone could give us the ultimate answer it would be beyond our comprehension. That revelation would do us about as much good as an ape getting a cell phone contract. Enjoy the 5G network oh hairy one.

  • @XaleManix
    @XaleManix3 жыл бұрын

    Adam, I am very, very glad that you tackled Pyramid Power. It was, in fact, very much a pivotal moment in my development as a human being. It was a 'wait a minute' moment for me (so much of Mythbusters was that.) But busting Pyramid Power, specifically, opened my eyes to the idea that 'magical' things could be tested and evidence demanded of them. That some of the things I took for granted as unequivocal and absolute and untestable, could in fact be tested, and doubted, and demanded proof of its validity. The Pyramid Power episode freed me from a future of misery, and agony, and fear, and self-loathing. The Pyramid Power episode helped my mind escape from a place that had trapped me in a spiral of thinking that my existence could not be reconciled with a set of supposed truths that made me feel sick, disgusting, guilty, and revolting. The Pyramid Power episode, frankly, is one of a number of things I can point to through my history and say 'This saved my life', and mean it with absolute sincerity. Thank you, despite your regrets, for testing it. Thank you for setting me free.

  • @IxodesPersulcatus
    @IxodesPersulcatus3 жыл бұрын

    Blow Your Own Sail is one of those life-changing episodes.

  • @forgotn42
    @forgotn423 жыл бұрын

    I love that the Mythbuster's crew was so excited about the idea of recreating the boulder getaway scene that it took several days of working on it to realize there just wasn't a story. lol

  • @donsample1002

    @donsample1002

    3 жыл бұрын

    But Jaime's objection was based on a misconception. It doesn't matter what the ball was made of. The speed of a ball rolling down a ramp is independent of its mass. (As long as its heavy enough that air resistance becomes negligible.) Maybe a quick test of the myth that heavy balls roll faster than light balls was in order.

  • @JosephDavies

    @JosephDavies

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@donsample1002 That's all true, but the point Adam is making is that the question "Could Indy outrun _this_ boulder?" in untestable because there are too many unknowns (with regards to that particular boulder as well as the temple), and the question "Could Indy outrun _a_ boulder?" is trivial, because you can equally well devise a path for the boulder that either disadvantages Indy or the boulder through the use of the vines and shape of the corridor, as well as the mass of the boulder (which could affect its ability to roll through an uneven environment). tl;dr - There isn't a specific claim to test that isn't either too vaguely specified, or too trivial to test.

  • @Peter_Cordes

    @Peter_Cordes

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@donsample1002 It matters if it's not *perfectly* round; bumps and stuff that you'd find on a realistic ancient rock would slow it down some on each rotation. So would bumps on the track. That's where the materials aspect comes in. (But yeah, Adam didn't mention any of the things that would actually matter, like slope or reasons why materials matter.) Also note that acceleration depends on the exact angle of support, like how much faster the full circumference of the ball is going than the point where it contacts the ramp. (Because of angular momentum. For similar reasons why a hollow cylinder is slower than a solid cylinder web.physics.ucsb.edu/~lecturedemonstrations/Composer/Pages/28.27.html or a sphere vs. cylinder isaacphysics.org/questions/rolling_objects ) (Ah, I see Joseph already mentioned vines, same idea as bumps. And good point that any changes in direction might involve the boulder hitting something and losing some kinetic energy and angular momentum.)

  • @oseds

    @oseds

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@donsample1002 No, falling or frictionless sliding is independent of mass. But rolling depends on the moment of inertia because some of the energy is converted to angular momentum. The moment of inertia is the mass and how that mass is distributed in the object.

  • @azbag1906
    @azbag19063 жыл бұрын

    2:00 your thinking of the A-Team movie good sir.

  • @mr_StevenS
    @mr_StevenS3 жыл бұрын

    2:00 I think that's the 2010 "A-Team" movie, not "Fast and Furious".

  • @nappa0582

    @nappa0582

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I was about to comment that same thing, lol. As nutty as the FF series has become, the only thing they've dropped from the sky were cars.

  • @kmacow

    @kmacow

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly! A non-existing tank carried in a plane that is not configured to carry a tank and the tank firing in mid-air! Sounds like Hollywood!

  • @coconutcam4297

    @coconutcam4297

    3 жыл бұрын

    This was like the one thing I really wanted the Mythbusters to have actually tested. Maybe with a smaller scale thing tho

  • @djsomeguy

    @djsomeguy

    3 жыл бұрын

    This, A-Team not F&F.

  • @neiljhopwood

    @neiljhopwood

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kmacow kzread.info/dash/bejne/oY593NSemdbLfc4.html

  • @FenTastic18
    @FenTastic183 жыл бұрын

    Don’t know if anyone mentioned it yet but: the molasses story Adam mentions did actually happen, it has a historical event, there are pictures (and also it was both the speed of the molasses gushing out of its container and the debris is picked up that actually killed people) the “urban legend” if you can call it that related to this incident is the street it happened on smelling of molasses all these years later when it’s hot out (which, is also something that can be tested with “real actual science”)

  • @ArtdesTests
    @ArtdesTests3 жыл бұрын

    Poor Andrew got burned, that was… Savage

  • @brandongreene3213

    @brandongreene3213

    3 жыл бұрын

    Iswydt

  • @skid_Demon
    @skid_Demon3 жыл бұрын

    Curious that Adam describes the molasses flood as an urban legend. I definitely thought that was real history, with no doubts to its actually happening.

  • @edwardrhoades6957

    @edwardrhoades6957

    Жыл бұрын

    The History Guy did a story on this. kzread.info/dash/bejne/k5iE19aiXbayZdI.html

  • @kathrynblack9152

    @kathrynblack9152

    Жыл бұрын

    The molasses flood is historic.

  • @sidewinder15599
    @sidewinder155993 жыл бұрын

    I would challenge calling the Boston Molasses Flood of 1919 a myth, because it's a photographically documented historical happening. That said, I'd certainly be curious what you would want to do regarding it!

  • @NightshadeDt
    @NightshadeDt3 жыл бұрын

    I'm imagining a disheartened Adam, in full Indy-regalia taking his hat into hand and being so disappointed that he wasn't going to get to run from 'The Boulder.' Edit: Because it looks like my reply was eaten, Discovery Nederland has the intro (complete with their boulder run) on their channel: "Adam als Indiana Jones."

  • @Florkl

    @Florkl

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Boulder is disappointed he doesn't get to chase the leather-clad man.

  • @scottmantooth8785

    @scottmantooth8785

    3 жыл бұрын

    *insert sad emoji face icon here*

  • @sanityormadness

    @sanityormadness

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh, they still did it (presumably because they had a "boulder" by that point). It was just that it became a small thing through M5 for the cold open, not a full Myth.

  • @NightshadeDt

    @NightshadeDt

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sanityormadness That certainly doesn't surprise me, but I really don't remember that at all. I guess maybe because it was the open?

  • @sanityormadness

    @sanityormadness

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@NightshadeDt Found it: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ioWDrdyKmLOtqbw.html There was also a brief BTS bit later in the show about turning the sphere into the boulder, presumably because it was filmed before - as Adam said - they realised there was nothing to test: kzread.info/dash/bejne/c2ejlqiaYauqiZc.html

  • @JeffKraschinski1969
    @JeffKraschinski19693 жыл бұрын

    If I recall the molasses flood was in January of that year, so the aforementioned dead people were truly “slower than molasses in January” EDIT: January 15, 1919 was indeed the date 🤦‍♂️

  • @cybersilver5816

    @cybersilver5816

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why the face palm?

  • @ianbuilds7712

    @ianbuilds7712

    3 жыл бұрын

    i shot molassas out of my air cannon a few januarys ago in honor of that day lol...

  • @Commandamanda
    @Commandamanda3 жыл бұрын

    I love when Adam confronts mythconceptions. Dude, you're too cool.

  • @daveayerstdavies
    @daveayerstdavies3 жыл бұрын

    One of the most fun things about doing science is to be surprised by your results or to discover something that defies intuition.

  • @djaaron23
    @djaaron233 жыл бұрын

    I love you adam! youve changed my young life for the better started watching myth-busters when i was 9, now almost 20 years later, ive learned so much from yall, and applied them to my own life in many ways.

  • @nervoussystem3343
    @nervoussystem33433 жыл бұрын

    Adam Savage, you and mythbusters changed my life! As a kid, it stoked my love of science, as an adolescent it was the only thing that could calm me down amidst brutal panic attacks, and as an adult I still rewatch episodes to this day. Thank you for being amazing!

  • @jllaine
    @jllaine2 жыл бұрын

    I actually appreciated the unbiased discipline exercised with "pyramid power", even though the outcome seemed "obvious to everyone" and "common knowledge". You did it the justice of a committed evaluation with the integrity and follow though of every other myth. and in the end that was its true entertainment value, unbiased discipline with integrity and commitment.

  • @mcmoose64
    @mcmoose643 жыл бұрын

    Andrew will be absolutely stoked with this response !

  • @hotrodderrecycler3202
    @hotrodderrecycler32023 жыл бұрын

    Clothing used to be heavy. People drowned in water when they fell in. Imagine how a deep enough moving molasses wave would hold you down. Not to mention gasping in molasses over water.

  • @DrakeAurum

    @DrakeAurum

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep - and at least water can be expelled from your lungs once you breathe it in. No amount of CPR is going to clear molasses from your lungs.

  • @JonatasAdoM

    @JonatasAdoM

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DrakeAurum What a way to go. Hope they at least enjoyed molasses previously.

  • @zachbaker1401

    @zachbaker1401

    3 жыл бұрын

    It was a real tragedy, there were numerous complaints prior to the tank failure that it was not strong enough. They had never filled the tank to full capacity prior to the flood, and there were many people saying the walls were too thin.

  • @SecretSquirrelFun
    @SecretSquirrelFun3 жыл бұрын

    That molasses flood was absolutely incredible. There are some amazing images of the aftermath. I believe that, in Boston, there is a monument or some sort of commemorative plaque to that tragedy. It was the way the tank had been made and inspected - or not inspected.

  • @custos3249
    @custos32493 жыл бұрын

    Hell, "actual real science" isn't an inherent aspect to study itself. Science isn't a single, _magical_ test that ends inquiry but a systematic process of examination. Irritates me to no end how moronically elitist people can be about that, typically deeming only pure, perfect experimentation as the only valid methodology. By that definition, almost all of the sciences we have don't qualify as science for all the things that can't be directly tested through classical dependent v independent variables while controlling all possible confounds.

  • @Stettafire

    @Stettafire

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. People often confuse the scientific method with mathematical proofs. In maths you can prove x = y. In science you can theorise (of course, a scientific theory is stronger then a colloquial theory) but you cannot 100% prove x = y. New information may come about that makes x = z. That is the fundamental difference between maths and science.

  • @Simon-ph1nf
    @Simon-ph1nf3 жыл бұрын

    8 minutes of a 9 minute video on light heartily word play and then 1 minute answer got to love mr savage :)

  • @rolandgdean
    @rolandgdean3 жыл бұрын

    6:43 Because seeing Adam, dressed as Henry Jones Jr., running from a giant stone...priceless.

  • @wyattroncin941

    @wyattroncin941

    3 жыл бұрын

    they did use the boulder in the special's cold open

  • @pleappleappleap
    @pleappleappleap3 жыл бұрын

    The molasses disaster occurred in 1919. The tank was 90 feet in diameter and 50 feet tall. It held more than 2M gallons. 21 killed, 150 injured. Some of the people were killed by the shock wave of the air being driven in front of the molasses wave, some were crushed by the wave itself, and some got stuck as the molasses thickened due to the cold temperature and suffocated. Some people claim to still be able to smell the molasses on hot days a hundred years later.

  • @MrPhil1969
    @MrPhil19693 жыл бұрын

    The Great Molasses Flood of 1919 was not a myth and was well documented, studied and detailed reports written on. Why would you want to replicate that?

  • @TheGreatAtario

    @TheGreatAtario

    3 жыл бұрын

    On several occasions they replicated things that were well-documented. For example, Bullets Fired Up. They even made the documentation part of the story on that one.

  • @redneckgaijin

    @redneckgaijin

    3 жыл бұрын

    Because it would have made better television than, for instance, the Great Atlantic Sponge Migration.

  • @TheRich1981

    @TheRich1981

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@redneckgaijin Whoa, to hell with molasses, I wanna hear more about these sponges!

  • @redneckgaijin

    @redneckgaijin

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheRich1981 The definitive study was done by Drs. Stanz and Spengler. The sponges, I'm told, migrated about a foot and a half.

  • @TheRich1981

    @TheRich1981

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@redneckgaijin Sounds pretty spooky, hope they were qualified to deal with that sort of thing. I'm sure they knew who to call if not.

  • @barryfields2964
    @barryfields29643 жыл бұрын

    Great Molasses Flood was 1919 January 15. That molasses was not for human consumption. It was use to make munitions for WWI. But the war ended in 1918, so they scaled back production, but the still had molasses coming in that was previously ordered. That coupled with, unusually warm weather, and a poorly built storage tank lead to the disaster.

  • @1pcfred

    @1pcfred

    3 жыл бұрын

    That really doesn't make sense because when wars end canceling orders is par for the course. The government certainly cancels their orders with contractors.

  • @barryfields2964

    @barryfields2964

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@1pcfred in that time it would take months for a shipment of molasses to get from the Caribbean to Boston. The war just ended on November 11, 1918. So those deliveries were already inbound, and paid for.

  • @1pcfred

    @1pcfred

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@barryfields2964 It did not take that long even in the days of wooden masted ships. Because of the currents going south to north is pretty fast in the Atlantic on the US side. You're going with the flow. The average speed sailing is 100-140 miles a day. It is only a 1,300 mile trip. So at most you can make it in under 2 weeks.

  • @barryfields2964

    @barryfields2964

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@1pcfred I’m talking ship travel I’m talking about contracts theses ships were contacted to deliver that amount of molasses at that point in time

  • @1pcfred

    @1pcfred

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@barryfields2964 I'm talking about telling them to take that molasses and shove it. I ain't working here no more! Johnny Paycheck style. Everyone realizes at the outset that war economies are high risk ventures. It ain't quite business as usual. Orders are placed in good faith but one must still understand that things do in fact change.

  • @thomasbarrasso6099
    @thomasbarrasso60993 жыл бұрын

    I am from Boston. The molasses accident was a major industrial incident. A good read on the subject is Steve Puleo’s book Dark Tide.

  • @evensgrey
    @evensgrey3 жыл бұрын

    The Boston Molasses Flood happened January 15, 1919. The molasses supply in question was being used for making alcohol for munitions manufacturing during WWI. With the end of the war on November 11, 1918, the manufacture of munitions slowed down, so the use of the molasses slowed down, and the tank began to get fuller. As the tank had been designed by an ACCOUNTANT, it wasn't strong enough to be safely filled with water, never mind molasses (which is about 40% heavier than water). 21 people are listed as having been killed and 150 injured, and for decades afterwards (and some people insist to this day) the area had a noticeably sweet odor, particularly on hot days. As for the sort of stuff Tested might have done with the story, most of that was probably done in 2016 by a team from Harvard, who concluded that the reported 40 mph speed of the initial wave was credible, and in 2014 when a proper engineering analysis concluded that even the relatively lax standards of the time would have required a tank twice as thick as was built, and that the steel used was too brittle for the application in any case.

  • @ncc74656m
    @ncc74656m3 жыл бұрын

    Note: The molasses processing plant was for alcohol production. ;)

  • @heartofdawnlight
    @heartofdawnlight3 жыл бұрын

    though they might have had less practical or usable implications, the fiction based stories often had very interesting an unique premises that made you think about something. and even if thats just simple physics, at the end of the day as a young kid watching people dodge star wars "blaster bolts" because they're slower then paintballs really gets your brain ticking on how physics works and interacts.

  • @RaphYkun

    @RaphYkun

    3 жыл бұрын

    Really liked the "fan on a boat" one because it's used as an example in science textbooks for simple physics, but when tried in the real world (without the caveats and simplifications that those academic problems impose) the intuitive answer often wins out.

  • @Mikyll1969
    @Mikyll19693 жыл бұрын

    One myth I always felt they got a bit 'wrong'... though they used great science to work on it... was the 'hang time' of a football supposedly inflated with helium rather than air. The actual 'theory' was that the ball would stay in the air a bit longer, and thus, allow the kicking team more time to get down the field and stop the receiving team. They ended up focusing on the DISTANCE of the ball flight, rather than the time, and to me, that was an error.

  • @ihidnan
    @ihidnan3 жыл бұрын

    Your channel and enthusiasm are therapeutic

  • @jeromethiel4323
    @jeromethiel43233 жыл бұрын

    Your comment about not caring what the result was, is in my mind, the keystone of good science. When you test some hypothesis, the results are what the results are. Entirely too many times you get into situations where the scientists doing the testing see only what they were looking for. And it's hard to be completely analytical, but being agnostic to the actual conclusion and not the conclusion you want should be the goal.

  • @ZekkSkywalk
    @ZekkSkywalk3 жыл бұрын

    The question is actually something I've thought of I think, just not worded so. Like, in my mind, I tended to think of the myths as divided into sort of categories: stories like coins off skyscrapers killing people, turn of phrases like bulls in a china shop, logical extrapolations like how water heaters are pressurized containers so its bad if they fail, or things seen in movies or videos like curving bullets. The last one seems fantastical outright, so was it any more absurd to test than the other three, which seem more applicable to something people could actually experience or use the turn of phrase. Like, the "science" part isn't the question, it's more like, I always wondered if they ever differentiated between...something like applicability versus absurdity.

  • @chiefinsclouseau
    @chiefinsclouseau3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Adam, I hope you're doing well. Since you were just talking about Raiders, I wanted to ask you about something from the clip you tested with the temple dart run, VS the movie clip. In the film clip, when Indie is running away, and the darts are shooting at him, it looks like they're being shot from both sides of room. My friend, and I slowed the whole scene down, and we both see darts coming from both sides. When you, and Jamie tested it, only one side fired darts. My question is, if both sides fired darts at different times, would Indie have been hit? I just rewatched that episode, and it's always bugged me that only one side fired darts. Thank you for reading this.

  • @sogwatchman
    @sogwatchman3 жыл бұрын

    1:57 The tank firing its cannon to "fly" or push its fall toward a lake was one of the scenes in the A-Team movie.

  • @logansinger2948
    @logansinger29483 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I always felt like the intention of urban myths was that they were surprising but true and that movie myths were never trying to present themselves as actually real.

  • @KiskaWreck
    @KiskaWreck3 жыл бұрын

    The way Adam is lit makes his glasses are half full

  • @0111DTheProphet
    @0111DTheProphet10 ай бұрын

    I truly won't be happy in life until i see a blooper video, specifically with slow-mo lol

  • @michaelpipkin9942
    @michaelpipkin99423 жыл бұрын

    I'm happy to pretend that you have that moving Swiss Army Knife in your window on Christmas, like one of those creepy Santa's behind a window in a toy store.

  • @RemnantOfBirth
    @RemnantOfBirth3 жыл бұрын

    This has needed to be said. For SO LONG.

  • @supertinnietank
    @supertinnietank Жыл бұрын

    Wait... Why is the molasses flood an urban legend? I've seen photos of newspapers clips from the event and presumably there are police and insurance records as well?

  • @JamesHelgesen
    @JamesHelgesen3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Adam, at around 2:15 you speak about flying a tank in relation to Fast and Furious, did you mean the scene from the A Team movie?

  • @jonathanbarker831
    @jonathanbarker83111 ай бұрын

    I always felt that mythbusters was more about applying the scientific method to random questions. It doesn't matter if the question is very wild as long as you can apply the scientific method to it and get a result based on detailed testing.

  • @sachdevariddhesh
    @sachdevariddhesh3 жыл бұрын

    A happy day for a maker is must for his mood ! 👍👍

  • @shoemakerleve9
    @shoemakerleve93 жыл бұрын

    Let's take a moment to appreciate how much Andrew was picked apart today. I could sense when it happened, all Andrews could

  • @andrewgreenroom

    @andrewgreenroom

    3 жыл бұрын

    😩 I will certainly use the word science more carefully from now on!! That will teach me to post late at night after a beer.

  • @JosephDavies

    @JosephDavies

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@andrewgreenroom Beer - Simultaneously both the cause and downfall of much great science throughout history. ;)

  • @Hexon66

    @Hexon66

    9 ай бұрын

    Well, he was... until he wasn't. After Adam finished faffing on, lightheartedly, about the phrasing of the letter, he gave an example of the Raiders ball. The upshot of which was *entirely* to the point of the letter, a complete fiction that was not testable as there were no specifications to replicate. He answered the question, without realizing he answered it.

  • @HarleyMothersole
    @HarleyMothersole3 жыл бұрын

    There is also the sugar beet in Canada for our commercial refined sugar products

  • @blackcatgraphics1483
    @blackcatgraphics14833 жыл бұрын

    One way the Raiders boulder scene could've been examined, since you were using a hollow amalgam, would've been to add an increasing range of weights inside to gauge which weight of boulder would be slow enough to evade, and weather weight was a determining factor at all. A lot of other variables would have to be thrown in as well, like how smooth the surface it was travelling on, the pitch it was travelling down, air pressure inside the cave, lots of stuff could make a difference on the timing. I think, unless you were gonna write a thesis length document on it, the best you'd probably come up with would be a rough generalization though.

  • @hannahfountain8060
    @hannahfountain80603 жыл бұрын

    Your joy is contagious

  • @brycevo
    @brycevo3 жыл бұрын

    Adventure has a name, and it's Savage

  • @ChrisOnStage2
    @ChrisOnStage2 Жыл бұрын

    They did a terrific Indiana Jones "Giant Rolling Rock" recreation at the old Disney/MGM Studios. I remember seeing their "Indiana Jones Stunt Show Spectacular" years ago and they did that stunt (and many more) live in front of an audience! There's tons of videos of it on KZread!

  • @JackCliffordWilliams
    @JackCliffordWilliams3 жыл бұрын

    Andrew knows that he's amongst friends here, including Adam himself! 😀👍

  • @HSMiyamoto
    @HSMiyamoto3 жыл бұрын

    I'm thinking of the Star Wars episodes, the Zombie-Killing episode, and Crimes and Mythdemeanors. Remember when Jamie tried to climb up an air duct with magnets, and it sounded like Norse demigod trying to break in?

  • @MarshallLoveday
    @MarshallLoveday3 жыл бұрын

    I've read that in the aftermath of the 'Molasses incident', the clean up was extremely hard. First off, it happened in the winter, and all the molasses froze, and second of all, when it melted, it was extremely sticky......

  • @1pcfred

    @1pcfred

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah but it was a sweet gig to get in on I'll bet.

  • @Bea_Esser
    @Bea_Esser3 жыл бұрын

    So... The molasses explosion was real & very dangerous because it was very powerful. Also trying to breath with molasses in your lungs is very hard nye on impossible. It’s worth researching. 😊

  • @moonrazk
    @moonrazk3 жыл бұрын

    I only learned what molasses actually is when I read about the Boston molasses flood, before that I had only seen the word used in the phrase "slow as molasses", so I thought it was some kind of slug/snail. So when I read about a flood of molasses I thought "huh? that makes no sense" and looked it up.

  • @Luminousplayer

    @Luminousplayer

    3 жыл бұрын

    i literally just did that because i didnt know what it translated to lol

  • @1pcfred

    @1pcfred

    3 жыл бұрын

    The speed of molasses is dependent on its viscosity and its viscosity depends on its temperature. Which is to say molasses is only slow when it happens to be cold. The whole phrase is as slow as molasses uphill in January. Now it was January when the accident occurred but they happened to be heating that particular molasses up at the time. Folks unfortunately were downhill too.

  • @ltlbuddha
    @ltlbuddha3 жыл бұрын

    A bit of a correction. Molasses was not used prior to cane sugar in America. Molasses is a by-product of sugar refining, a sugar-laden source is needed, typically (always?) cane or beet. Before the turn of the 20th century, cane sugar was the primary sugar sweetener in the US.* Beet sugar then became a competitor there. *The slave trade was largely fuelled by sugar, even in the US.

  • @H2Dwoat
    @H2Dwoat3 жыл бұрын

    Hi, wasn’t the directing a tank dropping from a plane with its main gun from the A-Team movie not the fast and the furious franchise?

  • @Robert-up1yi

    @Robert-up1yi

    3 жыл бұрын

    I came to say this glad someone else noticed

  • @JonatasAdoM
    @JonatasAdoM3 жыл бұрын

    I've heard someone say that a lot of beverages in the US (at least in the North) use corn sugar instead of sugar cane.

  • @samueldeter9735
    @samueldeter97353 жыл бұрын

    1:58 is he talking about the A Team, or did I miss a scene in the fast and furious movies?

  • @charleshanson9467
    @charleshanson94673 жыл бұрын

    A college sculpture teacher I had in the early '00s used to use the phrase, "Grey matter activated!"

  • @redbarron7433
    @redbarron74333 жыл бұрын

    1.) That pendulum in the background on your right Adam is very mesmerizing. 😂 2.) I know I’m not a Tested member, but I was wondering if you were planning on doing a video with Kyle Hill sometime in the future?

  • @shiftonephoto
    @shiftonephoto2 жыл бұрын

    Adam kinda looks like Colonel Sanders at these lower angles lol.

  • @nothanks7919
    @nothanks79193 жыл бұрын

    Adam's Flaming Laser Sword: If it is not testable by experiment, it is not worthy of television.

  • @jaywolfenstien
    @jaywolfenstien3 жыл бұрын

    ADAM: "I'm in a good mood today." ME: "And that's different from every other day, how?" (I know, I know. I don't know Adam personally and don't interact with him every minute of every day. It's just funny coming from a guy (in a video) whose public personna (in videos) is literally "kid in a candy store.")

  • @kamodt
    @kamodt3 жыл бұрын

    Wasn’t the scene Adam’s referring to, about steering a tank that’s falling from a plane, from the A-Team movie? I don’t think it was a Fast & Furious movie scene.

  • @undefined40
    @undefined403 жыл бұрын

    Wasn't that "steering a tank dropped from a plane by gunshot" from the A-Team Movie?

  • @kathyevans3251
    @kathyevans32513 жыл бұрын

    Great answer

  • @sheltiesong
    @sheltiesong Жыл бұрын

    I’ve scrolled for a bit and haven’t seen it mentioned, but it was actually far more than two people killed in the Great Molasses Flood of 1919; 21 people died.

  • @pothoc1
    @pothoc12 жыл бұрын

    When he's talking about flying a tank out of a C-130 isn't he referring to the A-Team movie? I don't remember this scene in Fast and Furious

  • @d4slaimless
    @d4slaimless9 ай бұрын

    Tank falling out from a plane was featured in A-team, not Fast and Furious. A did they have falling tanks in Fast and Furious as well?

  • @TheTweedler
    @TheTweedler3 жыл бұрын

    I'd give Andrew the benefit of the doubt and say he meant "historical based myths" and "actual possible history". Maybe he just wanted to jazz up the letter and threw the word science in there to make it sound more Mythbustery.

  • @JosephDavies

    @JosephDavies

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think you're correct. :) Alas, sometimes picking the wrong word changes the meaning, especially when it implies a specific assumption that might be crucial. It's a worthy conversation to have, especially in a world that likes to eschew reality-based discussion and public policy! Sure, in the grand scheme of things this question itself is limited in scope and carries no weight outside of asking for a personal perspective, but that also makes it a great moment to discuss the topic because it can be much harder to broach the subject when more important decisions are resting on it and people's self-identities are involved. Reinforcing the fundamentals of what it means for an inquiry to be science-based is a useful thing to do, at least so long as it continues to be so wildly misunderstood and misused.

  • @feldegast
    @feldegast10 ай бұрын

    I love how the pyramid myth gave unexpected results with the cut fruit and how the test was repeated to show why the original experiment was flawed

  • @JonatasAdoM
    @JonatasAdoM3 жыл бұрын

    Wait. I've always heard that tank scene was from The A-team movie.

  • @donsample1002
    @donsample10023 жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty sure that the velocity of a ball rolling down a ramp is independent of its mass, so it wouldn't have mattered what the ball was made of.

  • @daffyrwt
    @daffyrwt2 жыл бұрын

    I've not seen many of the Fast and Furious movies, but I kinda do remember that flying tank from the A-Team movie... or am I wrong about that, it's been so long since I saw that movie?

  • @dillonqaphsiel7977
    @dillonqaphsiel79773 жыл бұрын

    Here’s a question: you guys tested the polygraph and concluded that it was accurate in its ability to tell if someone was lying long after the scientific consensus was that it wasn’t able to tell if a person was being truthful. Why weren’t you more critical of it?

  • @alexandrezani
    @alexandrezani3 жыл бұрын

    I'm not sure why you couldn't test the boulder myth. 1. Use stills from the movie to measure the angle down which the boulder accelerates and measure the acceleration to get a first estimate of the mass. 2. Get different geologists to identify possible candidate materials and their density. 3. Use stills from the movie to measure the boulder to combine with #2 to get a mass. 4. Now you have a reasonable mass estimate. Now you can figure out likely velocities and see if Indy could have run from the boulder.

  • @tetchedistress
    @tetchedistress3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @sekritengineeringprojekt2101
    @sekritengineeringprojekt21013 жыл бұрын

    I think I know how to test the molasses thing... So you get a gigantic tank, which will be the most expensive part. Then you fill it up with water and then you add a gelling agent until it has the same properties as molasses. So you'll need a pump, a lake the water doesn't need to be clean really, and then add something like alginate or agar or something to gel it up to be similar to molasses. Should cost a lot less, but it's still going to need a pretty huge budget.

  • @1pcfred

    @1pcfred

    3 жыл бұрын

    But you do not know what the consistency of the molasses was during the accident. By all accounts it happened because the molasses was being heated up. Which means it would have been thin. If it was really like molasses would normally be in January the stuff wouldn't have gone anywhere, now would it?

  • @pacificostudios
    @pacificostudios2 жыл бұрын

    I could have calculated a reasonable weight and density for the Raiders of the Lost Ark stone, because most stone has the same approximate density. It can't be something very light like pumice, because it would collapse into powder. It can't be something very dense like hematite, because that would be a metal, and because hematite does not form into huge boulders. The maximum speed of that giant stone boulder would have to be determined by air resistance, after gravity and friction are considered.

  • @rossradtke
    @rossradtke3 жыл бұрын

    I misread the title as "Friction-based" myths... ...Still enjoyed it.

  • @andrewgreenroom
    @andrewgreenroom3 жыл бұрын

    And for the record I in no way think that the movie myth episodes were any less brilliant than the urban ones. I just wanted Adam’s take on the two. I think my badly placed ‘actual real science’ tipped this into a heated topic rather than a fun one. 😬

  • @JosephDavies

    @JosephDavies

    3 жыл бұрын

    I thought it was a great answer! It's a very useful discussion, and pretty fun to listen to his perspective on it. I'm glad you asked it. I'm only sad that a lot of the comments seem to have missed the point.

  • @TerbInYourFace
    @TerbInYourFace3 жыл бұрын

    There's a band called The Darkest of the Hillside Thickets that made a song called Great Molasses Disaster that's about the Great Molasses Flood of 1919

  • @planetjendel
    @planetjendel3 жыл бұрын

    Still happy the Swiss Army Knife is rotating the correct way lol

  • @jaromchristensen5866
    @jaromchristensen58663 жыл бұрын

    Not sure if you'll see this, but I remember reading/hearing about a myth that was so dangerous and so easy to replicate that the Federal Bureau of Homeland Secure Intelligence Agency (I cant remember which were involved) were brought in and all records, tapes, and sources for the myth were erased and/or destroyed. I was wondering how often you get asked about what the myth was or stuff like that?

  • @borisvladimir7151
    @borisvladimir71513 жыл бұрын

    Hello Mr Savage. In a recent video you quickly explained that you think at some point in the future you will move to a new shop. I was wondering if you could spend more time on that subject to elaborate how you/the team see the evolution of Tested and what you would dream to have in a new shop that you don't here. Did you find the place already ? Will you keep both shops ? (1 for you and the smaller one for team B which will build smaller things). Do you think you'll keep the content of Tested focused on you (I love that, I love what you do) or do you think you'll find a way to diversify and bring more creators ? What do you think ?

  • @tornadoswe
    @tornadoswe3 жыл бұрын

    Wasn't it A-Team where they aimed by firing a tank? Did they do that in fast and furious # too?

  • @phrostbyte
    @phrostbyte2 жыл бұрын

    I just heard about the molasses spill on Master Distiller. Sposedly on hot days you can still smell it. Interesting

  • @DUKE_of_RAMBLE
    @DUKE_of_RAMBLE5 күн бұрын

    3yrs late, someone might've said this, but... Give the GAU-8 rotary autocannon in the A-10 "Warthog" (attack aircraft), if the trigger is held down, is capable of canceling out HALF the aircraft's forward thrust... I think the A-Team's falling tank scene is _plausible._ *BARELY.* Likely not with whatever model they depicted, nor to the degree they showed... but maybe one with a 7sec auto-loader and only moving a number of yards. 😅

  • @makerpadwanwkp5782
    @makerpadwanwkp57823 жыл бұрын

    Adam how was it when you worked on the Mythbusters JR series leading a new generation of young brilliant minds down the path of the scientific process and did you stay in touch with any of them after the show wrapped?

  • @michaelconway8337
    @michaelconway83373 жыл бұрын

    Hey Adam when are you gonna get a bigger shop dude ? #texas /Florida ?

  • @user-xg7ed9fy9f
    @user-xg7ed9fy9f3 жыл бұрын

    You had me at "Boston Molasses Flood"

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