The fact that you guys are doing a magic speed 4 has me excited that you're about to drop a Superblast 2.

@jmbaug1229

Ай бұрын

Superblast 2 😮 ❤❤❤

@PMVelarde

Ай бұрын

Are they doing SB2? I hope they dont mess it up, SB is a great daily trainer.

@Diddle1414

Ай бұрын

@@PMVelarde The Asics rep I talked to in May said to expect them in about 2 months.

@PMVelarde

Ай бұрын

@@Diddle1414 i curious start looking stuff up, looks like they’re releasing is next month along with Olympics Paris colorway. I just hope they wont mess it up.

@Diddle1414

Ай бұрын

@@PMVelarde I can't imagine they'll make any big change to the foam. My guess is something with the upper.

Asics has made it hard on themselves by creating the ultimate Supertrainer in the Superblast. It really makes this updated version of the Magic Speed with a higher stack redundant. If they want to keep the Magic Speed around, it seems like they need to make it more like the Takumi Sen. A super light weight, stripped down, 5K - 10K racer that is super snappy and fast. Maybe that is Asics' intention with this update, but it doesn't seem like it meets that standard based on your review.

@kalvin.

Ай бұрын

Completely agree. There was a clear opening to me in their lineup to make the Magic Speed the lower to the ground, pseudo-5k/10k racer or training companion to their Metaspeeds and so I was surprised to see it go up in stack and weight. Perhaps they revive the Hyperspeed line to do that, and this still seems like a great shoe for marathoners doing longer runs or workouts, but the Superblast having a rollercoaster response being so popular after an initial negative pushback maybe had ASICS scrambling to suit what they thought we wanted resulting in these.

@vick666ful

Ай бұрын

Agreed, I loved the 3 cause it gave me that feel not excited about the 4. Have to go stock up on the 3 now

@JackD87

Ай бұрын

That would be great. Time to retire the Magic Speed and launch the lower stack racer based around the Sky Paris

@MTZ0

23 күн бұрын

@@vick666fulwas the 3 a good race day shoe? I liked my previous ASICS racing shoes and want some for the cross country season. Would you recommend for 3 mile - 5k?

I ran a marathon on a MAGIC SPEED 3. I would have loved it more with a higher stack height… But now with the version 4, I’m totally hyped.!!!

Love this review! I’m a huge advocate for the Novablasts and use it for pretty much all my daily/long miles. I think it’s too early in my training to buy the Paris so I think this would fit perfect for those marathon effort runs until then!

I really appreciate when you guys add the on-screen corrections if you misspoke in a video. It shows your commitment to getting it right.

First ! Love the Believe in the Run crew! Keep up the great work!

Seems they should have left it alone. My Magic Speed 3s arrive Thursday. Can't wait! Thanks for your great insights.

I do like my Boston 12 and I also have the Superblast. This shoe looks great.

@glyndonwakeman7420

Ай бұрын

I alternate these 2 for my long runs. Can't decide which one I like more.

It will be available in my ocuntry, can't wait. BTW, I missed you guy throw the shoes like playing the football ^^

For us middle/end of the pack marathoners, this Speed4 is a bargain, decent race shoe🤗🤣

This new treatment of the Onitsuka Tiger Stripes looks pretty cool.

As someone who didn't get along with the geometry of the Superblast, this shoe looks pretty good. I'm still going to try the Neo Vista first though.

Just ran in my Boston 12s today. Every time I lace them up I don’t like them and by the end of the run they change my mind. 🤔

@pepessz32

Ай бұрын

bro, I thought I'm the only one. LOL.

@andrewjknoxuk

Ай бұрын

My favourite shoe of all time 🏆

@toi3213

Ай бұрын

Yup fkn hate the upper.😂

@trevord.6545

Ай бұрын

I'm really glad I'm not the only one. I hate the lace up but the ride is pretty nice and very neutral

@MrRadhiEmhail

25 күн бұрын

i had to drop half size down for Boston 12 felt lot better , the upper and the laces annoyed hell out of me in my size

Summary: Kind of an inbetween shoe for someone who doesn't wanna drop 250 on a true race day shoe but is carbon curious. I did love the Magic Speed 3 and prefer higher stack shoes so this seems like a good shoe for me so I'll probably get it. If you don't get your shoes for free and aren't super fast 250 is a lot just for race days imo. Do it all shoes for the win 🎉😄

Is this shoe similar to the S4 shoe that they released in Japan only? It ticks all the boxes for me as an excellent long run shoe that can do tempo work. I think Thomas explained the possible use case for the shoe very well. A budget carbon plated race day option for the slower runners amongst us. It's reasonably priced, it's light for the stack height, incorporates their now 2nd tier super foam. A beefier Boston 12. I'll be picking it up for sure.

Asics are doing amazing this year but I have a feeling Puma is gonna rock our socks. I bought the DNE3 early yesterday and its 10/10.

@jutsni1030

Ай бұрын

Looking forward to the DN3🔥

LOL literally just bought the 3! Amazing shoe though! Keen to see if I like the 4 as much

Good morning. Like to Thomas and Robbe. Cheers.

You had me at Boston 12 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳 Will be buying this shoe 🫡

Robbe likes this more than the speed 4?!?… I didn’t see that coming 😮 I like the Speed 4 a lot and then Boston 12 so I guess I’d like this one too

Well, I’m going to give these a shot. Seems like they may work better for me than the 3’s did (which I thought were fine).

Should have been named the MagicBlast 💥

I think this model will be a great option for overpronators like me, because is wider as well at the top and at the midfoot, I can´t use Magic speed Paris Sky/Edge due the narrow they are.

A good upgrade from a Deviate Nitro 2 or are they way too different? I've used my DN2 for slow paces as well aside from faster workouts.. Would this work and be a good replacement? Can get another DN2 on sales but I would like to try this.

That yellow Onitsuka Tiger Mexico 66s Tshirt is so cool. Where did you get it?

Great comment👍👍and looking forward to it

I was recently in Tokyo and bought a pair of "S4"s - they're awesome - basically an upgrade on the Magic Speed 4s but alas only available in Japan. Although marketed as a sub-4hr marathon shoe, they're very good for speed work due to the FF Turbo foam, carbon plate and notable large forefoot strike zone. Super light too at only 250g in a US 11.5. Quirky but effective, they fit perfectly into my Novablast > Superblast > Metaspeed Sky Paris rotation.

@alredalred

Ай бұрын

I got a pair of S4s in Tokyo as well. I love them. When these wear through, I am definitely importing another pair!

@glyndonwakeman7420

Ай бұрын

I was wondering how different the MS4s are to the S4s. I was kind of hoping the MS4 was the non-Japan S4. But it sounds like they're quite different?

@davidrogers7787

Ай бұрын

@@glyndonwakeman7420 I tried both on. I wouldn't say they are THAT different. Both have the FFTurbo for example, but for me I needed a pair of shoes solely for that speed work by offering minimal real estate + lightness + that optimum/enlarged forefoot stability. When I compare the sole profile of the S4s to my MSPs, you can really see the difference. I'm running a marathon in the latter in 4 weeks, and I'll definitely need that more proportioned forefoot + heel profile. I felt that the Magic Speed 4 did neither, idk.

@alredalred

Ай бұрын

@@glyndonwakeman7420 Everything I have heard is the MS4 is the S4 for international markets but I haven't tried them yet.

@chellebunderla2045

25 күн бұрын

@@alredalredwhere do you import from? Keen to try! Im still on vaporfly 2s .. but tossing up a metaspeed edge paris or maybe the alphafly 3.

Nobody talks about how sick they look, those colours are amazing.

The pendulum of more stack is in full swing here, waiting for it to come back towards the middle or ground contact.

2024 is a nice year for running shoes!! New Balance is coming out with the SC trainer V3! You know ASICS can keep up with a carbon plate trainer with the new magic speed. Plus, Hoka is releasing the Mach X 2!! It's a stacked year!!!

I think Thomas still love the version 3 over this

Reminds me of the og ZoomFly 1, firm with a super pronounced rocker feeling

Ya know, I am carbon curious. Looking for something to run a half marathon in. Goal time of 1:40 ish. Thoughts?

Doesn't have enough of a use case for me, have the Superblast and Metaspeed Sky Paris and would actually choose the original Metaspeed Sky forfast training sessions

I'm confused, you gave this a soft green and at the end you say that for most cases you'd pick this shoe over the Saucony Endorphin Speed 4, yet in the review for the Saucony Endorphin Speed 4 you gave it a solid green, said it would be hard to beat and loved it.

@johnsonch7292

Ай бұрын

Saucony paid sponsor more. Simple.

Is that a bit more like the Salomon S/Lab Spectur? It feels like we’re seeing a few more carbon plates but with more cushion for a more “normal” runner

Wish it wasn't pucks but a full top layer of FF turbo ( the new adidas sl has a full slab within the carrier).

For a person doing ALL their runs in the Cumulus, would this be a good entry level Carbon/Race/Tempo shoe to start a rotation with? Or should they “graduate” to something like the Novablast fist?

@Believeintherun

Ай бұрын

These would be fun mixed with the cumulus

Nice Brooks logo on the midsole.

Bummer. The MagicSpeed 3 was one of my favorite shoes in recent memory because it became my go-to for speed work: it's just about as nimble as the Takumi Sen, but much more comfortable and stable. The MagicSpeed 4 may be more versatile than the 3, but versatility is way overrated for anyone serious enough to have 3-4+ shoes in rotation.

@nicholaschavez6245

27 күн бұрын

This is exactly the vibe I get. May have to stock up on Magic 3s while I can.

Awesome, a nice upgrade to the Novablast 4.

From your review, it sounds like they've made the Glide Ride again - which is great, because I loved that shoe as a daily trainer, and was gutted when they dropped it! (I moved to the New Balance SC Trainer at that point, and can't wait for the new version).

@runryerun8789

Ай бұрын

I agree! It broke my heart that the glideride was discontinued

@Believeintherun

Ай бұрын

Didn’t even think of that. That’s an interesting take

All the brands (except maybe PUMA) are just cranking out max stack plated shoes now for the hell of it, it’s not even fun anymore lol. They are all so similar- a dual density with a plate and flashy colorway. Just trying to get as many shots at a purchase as possible I guess. RIP shoe boom of the 20s 😔

@snowwalker9999

Ай бұрын

I saw photos of Deviate Nitro 3 and the Elite 3. Both seem to have more stack than the previous versions.

Does it support foot with high arch?

Isn't it made to compete with the Saucony Endorphin Speed?

How many pairs of alphaflys 1 do you have at the background?

Just a perfect shoe for this day and age...let the shoe decide what it wants to be for each runner... 🤐 Also, easy call, spend the extra $30 and get the Superblast V1 or V2...

Endorphin pro 4, New Balance SC Elite 4 or Magicspeed 4?

For some odd reason i love the novablast as a daily trainer for myself, i have the superblast as well and have ran in them and i cant stand them i dont know why just not for me

How does it compare with the asics S4?

Do you believe it's a western version of their S4 ?

I miss the shoe wall in the background

Try Li-ning shadow 2 essential or Anta Mach 4 pro

Man all they had to do was say it was basically a plated novablast with a rocker and little bit of turbo and it would have cut all of the superblast confusion. But they had to put ffturbo on the shoe instead of blast+

@macewindex564

Ай бұрын

Would be a failure of a youtube channel if they just summarized everything and made 1 minute videos

@michaelcaricoo

Ай бұрын

@macewindex564 I don't mean BITR I mean asics. A little bit better on the marketing side would've helped. I think Robbie and Thomas did a good job

Is that an Asics official T-shirt?? Looks 🔥🔥🔥

@Believeintherun

Ай бұрын

Onitsuka Tiger

How many pairs of shoes are on that wall?

hmm would you suggest for a first time carbon plate asics shoe, the magic speed 4 or superblast?

@BearSharkHybrid

14 күн бұрын

Superblast doesn’t have a plate

Need a speed shoe, looking for deals on the three.

Are they a narrow shoe

You guys be chillin in Berlin for the 50th?

Would the MS4 be the training partner for the Sky Paris? Edge Paris? Both? Neither?

@Believeintherun

Ай бұрын

Both

@Wings_nut

Ай бұрын

@@Believeintherun 👍

Sounds like Asics version of the Endorphin Speed or the NB SC Trainer.

@gg_uri673

Ай бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking. I hope they revert back to the MS3 format of a more speed/tempo shoe but with FF Turbo+ for the MS5 in the future. I'll probably still be getting these shoes but the MS3 was so good for what its purpose was.

@jollyroger1009

Ай бұрын

@@gg_uri673 It was (and still is) pretty awesome.

Three tenths of an inch? Are you allowed to mix metric thinking with imperial measurements?

@Believeintherun

Ай бұрын

🤷🏻‍♂️

I dont understand why the magic speed 4 is ment to replace tbe magic speed 3. I feel like those are two fundamentally different shoes. This should have been the s4 2 . I mean it literally is the s4 2

I predict the average heavier joe would likely prefer this over the more pricey sb with no plate

Where can I get that black ASICS t shirt ?

@Believeintherun

Ай бұрын

Onisuka Tiger

@ElMecosario

Ай бұрын

@@Believeintherun link? Lol

You guys are trying so hard to make this shoe enticing and please asics but your faces and “excitement” level tells me all I need to know. Hard pass.

Do the ms 4 and the Kinvara Pro feel the same?

@its1027

28 күн бұрын

From another review website, they say the Kinvara Pro is mushier, less dynamic, and better for slower paces. They much preferred the MS4.

what is the size? I am 9, for example the cumulus, could I buy the same size?

@Believeintherun

Ай бұрын

Yes

Kinda disappointed they gave this the massive stack height & stiff shoe treatment.. not sure we need an other one of these in the shoe market I absolutely loved version 3, it was actually so nice just wish the upper had a slightly better lock down. The magic speed felt better then an endorphin speed 3/4 for me because it felt more like a racing flat then a daily trainer.

I have used previous Magic speeds mostly for speed workouts, intervals and tempos at threshold pace or faster. Superblast has been my go to long run shoe and does well at marathon pace. I feel though I would use MS4 for mainly speed workouts and faster long runs. To me MS4 is either more affordable race option or workout companion to Metaspeeds.

@erikvaage576

Ай бұрын

I like to save my metaspeeds for race day so I do most of my speedier workouts in magic speed, long runs in Superblast and daily training in either Novablast or Gel-nimbus

Review ortus solar from indonesia🔥

If feels like Boston 12, then no, thanks. For me Boston 12 is the worst running shoe I ever ran in. It was so harsh on my legs. Just didn’t work for me.

@marcusszavaleta

Ай бұрын

How many miles did u put on it

@FatUglySadMan

Ай бұрын

Felt the same brutally harsh and firm just did not experience the it softens up thing, 90 miles in them hated every mile.

@ionwittig2572

Ай бұрын

@@marcusszavaleta I did use it for over a month. Over 100k I done in it. Besides being bad for my legs, developed one of them a hole above the toe box. Was a size bigger, made no sense. That was not really a problem but then started damaging all my socks. Then I decided to go back to my first generation of Magic Speed and bin the Boston 12. I could not buy new pair of socks for every run. Magic speed felt 10 times better. Midsole of Boston 12 felt like a hard brick. Magic speed first generation has a nice roll and stack height is lower. Because of that it feels better. Magic speed was missing insoles padding, which I added, being more comfortable now.

I feel more confused after seeing the review as to weather this is a good shoe. That was an all over the place review of ramblings and half thoughts. Not much help!!!

@Believeintherun

Ай бұрын

Might rain.

@Mike-rh8we

Ай бұрын

@@Believeintherun depends on the whether😃

Is that David Spade?

Travis Head here

send me in Korea. I wanna review this one. haha

Aren’t the meta, super, nova all the same

6th Element

Where is superblast2?

@Believeintherun

Ай бұрын

Coming very soon

2nd!

I really like Believe In The Run. But I’m having trouble comprehending what they are saying. 15 minutes in I’m lost.

Shoe must be so bad that they can't even describe how they actually feeling about the shoe.

@itsahardmuttlife9263

Ай бұрын

Because it’s an ASICS shoe. Their primary sponsor. They don’t want to say the wrong thing. 😂

it seems they both look tired.

Are you guys completely blazed in every video?

5th

You cannot race competitively with magic speed 4. Stack is too high. ASICS made them as a cheaper alternative to metaspeeds but it will never be near their performance.

4th

S4 is better than this. Motion wrap, wribbed laces, and slab of turbo.

@Fozzee.1970

Ай бұрын

Kind of irrelevant as it's not available in most of the world. However have you actually tried both?

@m.ch4rmaland3r10

Ай бұрын

I have not tried magic speed 4 but i have s4, superblast, and all other magic speed. Looking at the specs of ms4, I dont think I will pick this up with what I have.

@Fozzee.1970

Ай бұрын

@@m.ch4rmaland3r10 fair enough but better is subjective and it depends on the use case.

3rd HAHA

You guys seem like you had a fight about something before the video. Chemistry was off today and videography cutting off your heads was excessive and distracting. I love your work almost always but I had to stop this one halfway through.

Robbie says the word cheap. Asics just cut off all shoes support and communication. Lol. Jk

U mift the editing

This 2 sucks when they explained their verdict to the shoes everytime i saw this guys they can't directly said its bad shoe coz they need sponsorship 😂😅 u sucks guys

color correction making the fellas looking like they got cheeto's dust on them lips

ugh. robbie 🙄

ASICS headed downhill

14 min review which could have been done in 5 min. Sounds like 2 stoners discussing philosophy. Boring

is a

Asics 🩵 💚 Japan 🫶🏻 🥰