André De Shields call me ❤️❤️❤️

@mathieuleader8601

4 жыл бұрын

not Tommy Targe

@joculatrix

4 жыл бұрын

This seems like a deliberate attempt to get someone to write fanfics.

@mathieuleader8601

4 жыл бұрын

are you of Nord descent as a VPN?

@XenaBe25

4 жыл бұрын

@@joculatrix Nah. Olly did this in honour of the *very special* parasocial relationship his fans keep telling me I'm having with him :D

@XenaBe25

4 жыл бұрын

@@joculatrix Oh... you mean that De Shields person is supposed to write fanfic? xD

your "general american" accent sounds like ben shapiro trying to impersonate himself

@eliwatson7936

4 жыл бұрын

k s as he said himself in his abortion video; “I play Ben Shapiro better than Ben Shapiro does”

@OH-tj4qn

4 жыл бұрын

It sounds like what I’d imagine a prototypical blonde WASP father in a Norman Rockwell painting sounds like

@GracefulStars

4 жыл бұрын

that "general american" accent fell in the aural equivalent of the uncanny valley, i felt my fight-or-flight activate

@downsjmmyjones101

4 жыл бұрын

@@GracefulStars Exactly. It would be perfect for Hannibal Lecter.

@RaysonWilliams

4 жыл бұрын

​@@GracefulStars You phrased it so perfectly

Nobody tell Cavendish that Romeo and Juliet was done with two trans women

@ryanlocke1117

3 жыл бұрын

Yaass omg

@thomasjensen9976

3 жыл бұрын

Or maybe it was a one person show?

@entertain7us148

3 жыл бұрын

BAHAHAHA

@johnbrooks7350

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah know, I thought about that statement too and thought maybe this was referencing the transition long long before. Prolly not but that’s my fanfic

@UCfaerieixi

3 жыл бұрын

transbian romeo and juliet 😍

When British actors do general American, I call it "business cowboy"

@cameronm896

3 жыл бұрын

I call it transatlantic cause it reminds me of the fake dialect that FDR and 20's radio announcers used

@JokersAce0

3 жыл бұрын

When they try to pronounce Rs while trying to do American accents they do tend to get harsh and it sounds hillbilly.

@aestheticbeatz5700

3 жыл бұрын

Some of them do a great job actually and it sounds real, but the point isn't always to sound real lol its just to show the audience "yes this guy is infact an American" Midwestern is hardest for them idk why lol it's literally the most plain accent in America.

@sophiat7459

3 жыл бұрын

I've lived in the Midwest for a while, and I don't think it's really that Midwestern. Like, yeah, there are definitely elements, but I'd say it sounds kinda more East-coasty, especially with the speed of talking, which is too fast.

@clayfoster8234

2 жыл бұрын

Damon Lewis deserves a medal for his American accent because it wasn’t until his acceptance speech at some awards show after band of brothers that I discovered he isn’t American. Also, Kate Winslet in Mare of East Town, straight up nails the philadelphia accent that, while very subtle, is also VERY distinct.

abigail: parasocial relationships could be deliberately, cynically fostered for financial gain or even mass control me, a k-pop fan: 👁️ 👄👁️

@sorryminati4719

2 жыл бұрын

Especially for the gain of weird sense of camaraderie over nothing, over no fulfillment. That is what kpop fandoms especially suffer from. Like all fandoms, but more desperately tbh

@kys4s4c

2 жыл бұрын

@@sorryminati4719 same omg it's a constant debate I have in my head

@tired5880

2 жыл бұрын

This is why I got used to take little breaks from the fandom, you'll be surprised how much can help your mind, social life and the way you view the artist you love. When we are much deep in the kpop fandom it really can mess up our minds and also can create a type of co-dependency that's pretty hard to figure out how to deal with (trust me I've been there many times). The mindset that kpop fandom give to us is literally "I can't leave without this people", "this fandom is my family and my place no matter how toxic it can get sometimes", "I need support them no matter what or I would be a bad fan" and even "They need me!", but then you take a break, take care of your own life and you know what? They're fine, the fandom is fine and you got some energy back as well :)

@dysmissme7343

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t know man- as a fellow kpop fan I find the parasocial relationships a bit scary, yes, but they can also offer a lot of value. It’s certainly something I’m aware of, and afraid of… but my fandom/parasocial relationships have done and are doing a lot for me in the sense of inspiration and personal growth. The fear I know comes from my choice to trust in my idols (I know, I know 😂😂😅) and their company, bc as Abby mentioned discomfort//hurt comes when they let you down. It’s definitely something worth thinking about, and I’ll definitely be rewatching this video

@dysmissme7343

2 жыл бұрын

@@sorryminati4719 I disagree though- if you’re talking about camaraderie between fans, because that camaraderie exists because the fans have SO many shared interests, passions and experiences!! Like SO MUCH

"The most realistic thing about Avengers: Age of Ultron was that the villain decided to end the human race after spending a few seconds on the internet"

@nerag7459

4 жыл бұрын

10 seconds on 4chan and Im thinking a meteor wouldnt be so bad

@rezairawan4209

4 жыл бұрын

@@nerag7459 if you are a thin-skinned person, but then again it's 4chan it bound to hit everyone limit one way or another

@tshred666

4 жыл бұрын

Reza Irawan lol, 4chan is my only place where I can get a proper catharsis. Where I can talk to other people like me in a way that’s brutally honest and direct that I can’t really have with others anymore.

@rezairawan4209

4 жыл бұрын

@@tshred666 exactly, 4chan is a place where you can say whatever you want without consequences and with this level of unrefined degeneracy the place is problematic for the coward and hilarious for everyone that can take it

@dimitriosdrossidis9633

4 жыл бұрын

@@tshred666 I think that means you lead an unhealthy Life?

Let's be honest though: bad poetry slam transcends race and gender.

@jennbaker6964

4 жыл бұрын

Syno Nymous i havent seen good slam poetry

@raphaelambrosiuscostco

4 жыл бұрын

Can you explain that to me please. Not angry or anything, I'm just confused.

@Full_Bloom2_Hey_Its_Leah

4 жыл бұрын

@@jennbaker6964 There is a lot of bad slam poetry but if you see the right people in the right places there are many gems. It's a community whose art I hate like 50% of the time and love to death the other 50%.

@emmametos6301

4 жыл бұрын

While this is mostly true, white cis men are more likely to get praise and attention. My slam poetry team was mathed out of semi-finals by a white dude with a fishing poem.

@notnormalyet

4 жыл бұрын

@@emmametos6301 That's an interesting perspective. I don't think I've ever heard slam poetry by a white, cis man.

Abigail mentioning she played romeo with a juliet played as a trans women is an even more amazing line now that we know she was playing a man as a trans women as well.

@indigothecat

2 жыл бұрын

Totally, I was thinking that myself! I'm a recent new fan so I'm going through her video history and thoroughly enjoying them.

@marko112kg

7 ай бұрын

And now I remembered Victor, Victoria, even though that is not a story about transgender people.

Abigail’s anecdote about people telling her “You showed me a version of masculinity which is positive and not toxic” hits different now.

@camillegrinnaux879

3 жыл бұрын

I still think she did. She was a role model to me before she came out, as a good man. She's still a role model to me as a transperson to be truthful to myself. I really adore her (in a parasocial way).

@pettalkingbrick5287

3 жыл бұрын

we get it bro, you wanna comment on older videos with the same shit over and over

@camillegrinnaux879

3 жыл бұрын

@@pettalkingbrick5287 Sorry to upset you! 😀

@LongWarEnjoyer

3 жыл бұрын

Does that really “hit different” for you? Wow, so progressive. I’m glad you took the time to tell us.

@polarys79

3 жыл бұрын

@@LongWarEnjoyer this is literally a comment section. Can't we just comment on it? Don't take it personal. Sorry if you are having a bad day tho.

POV: You’re going to a Shakespeare play and a British woman rants to you for 45 minutes straight

@tilzo_9752

4 жыл бұрын

Hhahah

@FafliXx

4 жыл бұрын

That's just regular Shakespeare

@emmabowshall6124

3 жыл бұрын

And that’s on Hamlet

@lars7935

3 жыл бұрын

And then the play starts

@ilicythings

3 жыл бұрын

woman* lol

Obligatory "philosophy me daddy" comment to appease the algorithm

@hiyouyesyou1593

4 жыл бұрын

It’s two am your down the KZread rabbit hole you’ve watched so much KZread and and been looking at memes for hours you see this comment what do you do •like it and scroll on >brake down laughing so hard your neighbors can probably hear you at a joke that has no right to be this funny

@Eudaletism

3 жыл бұрын

The Algorithm has spoken! It desires our comments! Comments for the Algorithm! Comments for the Algorithm!

@Firegen1

3 жыл бұрын

In philosophical discourse channel algorithm discusses you. See episode Data for further citations.

@eliasbischoff176

3 жыл бұрын

All hail the algorithm

@k.morningstar7983

3 жыл бұрын

further Ollie algorithm praise

Philosophize me mommy

@Karin-fj3eu

3 жыл бұрын

Iconic comment

@vibe6750

3 жыл бұрын

Mood

@soccerruben1

2 жыл бұрын

Bruh

@mollyscrivens611

2 ай бұрын

Same

If the uncanny valley had a voice it would be Abigail's american accent

@polarys79

3 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I feel when I watch her shapiro look-alike on the abortion video.

@kaithosmer3494

3 жыл бұрын

It's so close, but just wrong

@foelancer7625

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaithosmer3494 yeah this is what it's like for british people to listen to americans try to do british accents.

@nunyabusiness42069

2 жыл бұрын

Tbh it just sounds kinda Canadian to me lol

@trypptrapp266

2 жыл бұрын

@@nunyabusiness42069 kinda also like northwest, Oregon, Northern California

Social distancing in the streets A little parasocial treat in the sheets

@NyJoanzy

4 жыл бұрын

A parasocoal relationship in the sheets is just masterbating and I'd ask you not to do it in the streets.

@kennoification

4 жыл бұрын

@nyJoanzy that was fucking funny.

@sorcellerie

3 жыл бұрын

I love this comment so much

@rat-in-the-void

3 жыл бұрын

Poetry ✨ This comment deserve much more likes

@redcitadel9123

3 жыл бұрын

World heritage comment

I could watch an entire episode of him doing Roman Bernie impressions.

@hunterG60k

4 жыл бұрын

First proper laugh at a video in ages, brilliant

@harveyholmes9533

4 жыл бұрын

Swarly it’s got to become a recurring character to combat Pontius Pilate

@hunterG60k

4 жыл бұрын

@@harveyholmes9533 Pleeeeaaaase let this become a thing!

@rcr257

4 жыл бұрын

As an ancient roman italian american, I appreciated his impressions

@klisterklister2367

4 жыл бұрын

@@harveyholmes9533 a debate between empire-loving pontius pilate and bernini sanderini

What if we played Romeo and Juliet 👀 and we were both trans 👀

@pan-semitistcommunist4181

3 жыл бұрын

"Wilt thou share a can of Monster Energy with me Romeo? uwu"

@robbuelens

3 жыл бұрын

Romea and Julio?

@Deeegenerate

3 жыл бұрын

@@pan-semitistcommunist4181 This is the best thing I've read all day

@casualpequod6054

3 жыл бұрын

Haha jk. Unless...

@iseeyou9488

3 жыл бұрын

cringe

This video should be called "Boundaries: Let's Set Some".

@zhang437

2 жыл бұрын

Leyla Beeblebrox, I love your name 😍

Bernini Sanderino doesn’t become a recurring character I will be furious

@jennbaker6964

4 жыл бұрын

Harvey Holmes he was good friends with the gracchus brothers

@SalimDoodles

4 жыл бұрын

I HAVE A MIGHTY NEED FOR BERNINI SANDERINO

@Jossandoval

4 жыл бұрын

Bruh, turn down a bit your parasocial relationship dependency.

@Minihood31770

4 жыл бұрын

My name is Berninius Sanderus, I will have affordable health care, in this life or the next.

@harveyholmes9533

4 жыл бұрын

José Sandoval what are you trying to say about me and my best friend Olly?

"distinguished nonbinary members of the royal parasocial society" now that's how I like to be referred to

@CloudyMelancholy

4 жыл бұрын

Same here! ☺

@pixocrayon7766

4 жыл бұрын

If there is a title to have, that's it.

@KrislLeon

4 жыл бұрын

Ditto

@aks799

4 жыл бұрын

Just realized I was NB a few days ago but yessss

@notjamin

4 жыл бұрын

@@aks799 eyyy congrats! welcome to the club

"These people do not know me, they just know the scripted and edited version of me" hits a lot different in February 2021 than it did in March 2020, anyways congrats Abi on not having to put on the boymode act anymore, I know from experience how hard that is and I'm so glad you get to be your true self now both on and off screen

@MarceldeJong

3 жыл бұрын

Well on screen will still be scripted and edited, just not the boymode act. But I agree with the rest of your statement.

@RQLexi

2 жыл бұрын

I agree wholeheartedly, but this is also the first time I have ever encountered another Lexi Rose. Who is also a lesbian. And likes She-Ra. And is invested in trans topics. And watches Philosophytube. Are we now locked in a prophesized battle to the death in which either of us is destined to vanquish the other? I'm not entirely clear on the rules of these things.

@_.violyse._

2 жыл бұрын

@@RQLexi I presume you just have to avert your gaze politely and pretend as though nothing is out of the ordinary. Or perhaps I'm just British.

3:50 i guess it was a trans sapphic rendition of romeo and juliet

@alexsmalley9993

3 жыл бұрын

I would be so down for an all lesbian Romeo and Juliet. Mercutio would be delightful.

Roman Senator Sanders is a character that deserves further development.

@genericembarrassingusernam7843

3 жыл бұрын

He's gonna start whingeing about all the money exchanges in the forum

@Agell

3 жыл бұрын

Seconding this, I'm rolling

@AC-INTENIONS

3 жыл бұрын

Please

@fruitygarlic3601

3 жыл бұрын

GIVE THE FANS WHAT THEY WANT

@twotrucks5263

3 жыл бұрын

The Populares won't let him run against the Optimates tho...

Alternate Title: Why Lurkers Have Got the Right Idea

@TreeHairedGingerAle

4 жыл бұрын

Bingo! 😂🙆

@bigninja27

4 жыл бұрын

@youtube, I'm in this comment and I don't like it 😶

@BobHoss4

4 жыл бұрын

Lurkers Represent! ✊

@sanityisrelative

4 жыл бұрын

@Locke Dunnegan [reply deleted]

@mclev9375

4 жыл бұрын

@Locke Dunnegan never felt so seen

"These people do not know me. They know the edited version of me." I think this is SO important to point out. Like Bo Burham said, celebrities and performers are merely offering a service. You shouldn't obsess over them or their personal lives because knowing their work doesn't mean knowing *them*. Nowadays there is a devotion to personalities instead of a devotion to their work. That's quite dangerous. For example, I really enjoy watching Oliver speak and he seems like a nice guy but the moment his videos stop being interesting to me, I don't need to stick around. You don't own performers loyalty.

@HectorPerez-xu9ks

3 жыл бұрын

Owe*?

@Droemar

3 жыл бұрын

I also think it's very important to be able to separate art from the artist namely because humanity leaves the best of ourselves in our art. As people, artists are not paragons. Art CAN be a paragon. Bing Crosby beat his kids so bad one of them grew up to commit suicide. Ernest Hemingway was tragically mentally ill and an alcoholic and blew his brains out with a shotgun. Martin Luther King Jr. cheated on his wife. Gandhi was a racist. Sean Connery had a hell of a misogynistic streak. Especially with cancel culture and all that, I think it is important to separate the art from the artist. Don't ask the artist to be moral, because that's a failed inquiry. Art is inherently moral, and guides us best because it communicates everything we need it to for us. But people suck, and are sloppy, and addicts, and mentally ill, or shit at social skills. But we can be geniuses and angels in art. I find that that to be very comforting from a "We're all going to die someday" viewpoint. The idea that the best part of yourself can be a little bit immortal is a nice one.

@rolfs2165

3 жыл бұрын

@@Droemar While I agree with you, sometimes an artist becomes so entangled with their art that it is impossible to separate them again when the artist invariably turns out to be a massive asshole (*cough*J.K.Rowling*cough*).

@Droemar

3 жыл бұрын

@@rolfs2165 That's a good point. But do you think people will remember her wild transphobia 100 years from now when Harry Potter is still on the shelf?

@NATHAN-gl9ns

3 жыл бұрын

After her most recent video, that line takes on new meaning

3:45 who knew Romeo and Juliet was about trans lesbians all along

@deeznutz8320

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah subversion has come a long way

The moment where Olly says "Beauty is still possible, even in ugly times," it was a spoiler and nobody called it.

@saulo4302

4 жыл бұрын

more like foreshadowing

@toatrika2443

4 жыл бұрын

Went to the comment section to search for this exact comment the exact moment I heard it lol

The fact that most marketing tries to create a parasocial relationship with companies is most disturbing honestly. Even more taking into account companies aren't people.

@xEternalSoul

4 жыл бұрын

ugh the 'hah classic wendys! wow so sassy and says it how it is love that about her!' you do realize youre personifying and idolizing a fast food conglomerate whos tweets are probably made by a board of various men in suits and posted by an underpaid intern. theres nothing 'personal' 'relatable' or 'real' about what a brand ever posts its all extremely corporate and calculated

@jobeiden

4 жыл бұрын

commodity fetishism

@juleslacassin8211

4 жыл бұрын

Yeaaaah. Parasocial relations with individuals can have issues, but with companies? They're always for the purpose of exploitation.

@sophiemason8444

4 жыл бұрын

Looking at you Baby Nut

@lindsayenrique

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, I run a company's social media accounts and create their marketing assests and I always push for making our posts appear genuine and transparent, not "relate-able" and "meme-y". For example, if I post about a new product, I won't add a meme to it, gross... what I will do is something along the lines of "hey, we have a new product and if you liked "older product" you'll love this one! It includes x,y,z... here's the link and if you put in code x, you'll get 10% off!" Something like that. Just keep in mind, the person behind some of these company social media accounts are usually under-paid interns. So while they're cringey, don't be so hard on them lol

As a person in the general kpop fandom, every time I hear about parasocial relationship I feel this weird feeling. I am not a teenager, and I wasnt a teenager when I got into kpop, but there was a good while where a part of me- A very small part- Truly believed that one day maybe if I did the right things and went to the right places, I might be able to marry my favorite artist for real. Allthough deep down, I did know that it was just a fantasy, and I always had an awareness that I would never truly know anything about these people Now, several years in, that part of the parasocial relationship is long gone, and I know very well that they dont know me at all and that the way kpop artists are marketed feed very heavily into connecting with you personally- I can recognize even better that I will never know exactly how the person I am watching truly is When you mentioned about hurt when "the artist does something that is viewed as betrayal", I had a brief think about how angry some fans get when these people start dating, but I thought more about when they truly have done something that *is* betrayal. Without mentioning names, there was a big scandal where an artist from a very high profile band was caught participating or at the very least, knowing about some really heinous shit in a nightclub that he owned, and even though he was not one of my personal favorites, the pain of feeling as if I had been lied to, and the panic afterwards of feeling as if every artist I liked would some day turn out to be a terrible individual and questioning wether I could even stay in this fandom after all of that. Especially after more people were implicated as having been involved. Eventually I calmed down and decided that it's best not to judge until I truly know, and to enjoy these artists but perhaps with even more caution to how attached I actually become. Conversely, I still often feel like I know these people. Even though Im aware that that is exactly what they are trying to make me feel, and that I am perfectly aware of the fact that I can never know how much of what I know about them is true and how much is false. If anyone has ever wondered why kpop fans seem so insane, it has a lot to do with the way the industry cultivates parasocial relationships in my opinion. Especially young people feel like these artists are their friends, that it is their job to protect and shield against harsh critisism (or any critisism) and they take a percieved attack very personally. I am rather torn on this, as a person without many real life friendships, these parasocial relationships have often made me feel less alone but I can tell that they often are detrimental to both fans and artists alike anyway enough of that unhinged rant that no one is going to read, great video lol I enjoy the aesthethic (tm)

@EverythingxYourexNot

3 жыл бұрын

As a kpopper myself, I kept hoping that Olly would bring it up somehow. Today's influencers are some of the best examples of this parasocial relationships being used for profits, but if you want to see this happening on a higher level (not just individuals profiting like this, but entire companies built on the idea that they will create parasocial relationships for consumers), I think kpop is the best example these days of this phenomenon. For me, it has never been about that (I like the choreographies), and it's terrifying to see so many tween and teen girls getting sucked into these dangerous situations, and as a result, never really learning how to form healthy relationships. :/

@taiefmiah

3 жыл бұрын

Damn, thanks for the insight though

@briannamcfarland5974

3 жыл бұрын

I have the exact same complicated relationship with kpop. The job of a kpop artist is to cultivate a relationship that's part friendship, part romantic, part parental (in the sense of watching them grow and helping them succeed). It's so easy to fall into the parasocial trap. It's unhealthy for both fans and idols, but it's what makes companies so much money. I also didn't understand how deep the parasocial relationship goes until the incident you mentioned, and the idols involved weren't even especially egregious in their parasocial tactics (they got their popularity before things like Vlive, Makestar, and competition shows.) I can't even imagine the hurt and denial that would occur if a huge 3rd gen idol got into serious trouble.

@roseclouds5838

3 жыл бұрын

oh yeah tw// suicide up until Jonghyun from SHINee killed himself I always used kpop as a crutch because it’s just so addicting to have that parasocial relationship when your life is a bit shit. That event though completely destroyed me, i had built my entire escapism off of being a fan of kpop. (also during the time my dad has done some violent things + i was getting kicked out of school) ,the entire community was talking about his death. It really is that addicting that that was only when i snapped out of it and realised i had to set a boundary for myself. People may laugh at kpop fans on twitter but damn if i don’t understand how much that community can comfort a teen with a bad personal life i still keep up with it but it saddens me when i see young girls defending that parasocial relationship because it may be the only thing keeping them going

@somelucifrostguy9208

3 жыл бұрын

This seems to be the same with female J-Pop idols. But the fanbase there is mostly male so you can imagine how much worse it is. God, it's disgusting how the industry exploits these emotions AND the idols.

"I played Romeo across a trans women playing Juliet" My 2021 reaction: We LOVE ourselves a lesbian Shakspeare play! :-)

@BlueKitsune72

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds like the best Romeo and Juliet. I want to see that

Ollie: And what do we do when we can't make sense of things? We lie on the kitchen floor and cry! Me: Yes, of course. Ollie: No- Me: Oh, yeah, of course not. That's ridiculous.

@e.458

4 жыл бұрын

I really don't get that! There's so many more comfortable floors to lie and cry on!

@vfaulkon

3 жыл бұрын

The sadness goes on forever! :D

@veteratorvulpes1116

3 жыл бұрын

Ooh, right in the parasocial relationship

@diezpiedrasnegras1703

3 жыл бұрын

Hahhahaha

@rat-in-the-void

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah he got me in this one

New genre of youtube. "Having ideas while posed and dressed for a classical portraite" starring Natalie Wynn, Oliver Thorn, and coming soon Harrison B Bomberguy.

@Xeridanus

4 жыл бұрын

Harris is still wearing the banana suit though.

@buchling1

4 жыл бұрын

I feel like HBB has too much uncontrolled energy for this. That's like expecting UpIsNotJump to not make wild edits every five seconds.

@BoredInNW6

4 жыл бұрын

@@Xeridanus it's a classical banana suit, and nobody wears it better than our boi.

@XenaBe25

4 жыл бұрын

@@BoredInNW6 Yes. Banana a la Cezanne with some groovy 19thc clowns up in the corner miming with those adorable yellow minions or smthg :D

@TheStarBlack

4 жыл бұрын

Hbomb doesn't know the meaning of soon!

No one hates, Despises, Truly LOATHES Stat Wars quite like Star Wars fans.

@vodkatamarindo9387

3 жыл бұрын

I was impressed of how toxics they are. The fact that the jar jar binks actor contemplated suicide, the fact that the little kid from phantom menace was bullied horribly. Also, everything towards john boyega and kelly marie tran went through Like damn it’s a movie about wizards in space can we please chill

@TrueGamer22887

3 жыл бұрын

Vodka Tamarindo that was before the internet was huge too, so crazy man

@Prodmullefc

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure I hate it more than the “toxic fans” you’re talking about. The only ones worse than people who complain about Star Wars are the ones who simp for it. It’s a stupid series of movies that just got dumber and dumber and dumber.

@TrueGamer22887

3 жыл бұрын

Por0d0mulle I don’t think people who just genuinely love it are a problem in any way, at that point you’re just being mean to people for liking something which is major hater behavior, unless of course by simps you mean the grown men (like all the youtuber reactionaries like geeks and gamers or the quartering) who make 3 videos a day crying about sjws and only seem to care about societies attack on straight white men and their favorite childrens’ franchises

@Prodmullefc

3 жыл бұрын

@@TrueGamer22887 no, you and the quartering are exactly equal. He complains about star wars (a children's franchise) and you come to white knight for it (a children's franchise) which actually makes you the more pathetic one. At least the grown up hating on a "children's franchise" has a degree of self-awareness. As or me being a hater, uhh, I believe three words into my original post I explicitly said "i hate it".

Stanning is probably directly proportional to cancelling. The bigger the love, the bigger the betrayal, the more satisfying the takedown. It probably has all snowballed during lockdown too, as we have been able to focus & binge. Thanks for implanting the notion of "parasocial". I DON'T know you!!!!

@gremlinwithstickyhands3704

3 жыл бұрын

It always shocks me how fast people cling on now (me included). Like as a kid I feel like remember celebrities having to actually be impressive. Now people just latch onto 17 year old boys who make tiktoks doing nothing

@Flameclaw123

3 жыл бұрын

That's something I've seen recently too. Ex. when big youtubers get called out, there's always a decent portion of their fanbase defending them from criticism, but the majority of the people talking about it are people who were fans before the information came to light - because, of course, who cares if somebody like Ben Shapiro said or did a bad thing, we already know he sucks, but these fans believed they were fans of a good person who would never do something like that (even though in reality, this only proves how little we know about celebrities and internet content creator's true selves at all). Most of the anger comes from their own fandoms, to the point that in many cases their own subreddits start sharing memes about the bad thing they did rather than trying to defend them (Shane Dawson and ProJared come to mind first for me, with Shane's subreddit sharing videos that exposed what he did and Jared's removing him as a moderator so they could flood the page with memes). These are the people who feel most betrayed, because they bought into the wholesome/friendly persona and had no idea what was lurking below the surface, and now they're angry they've been lied to. And that's often a somewhat understandable reaction to have, when so many creators build their brands on being genuine while also trying to pretend their past (or present) less than savory actions don't exist.

@briannawaldorf8485

3 жыл бұрын

Flameclaw123 purity testing your favourite KZread because they said something problematic one time or they featured a mildly problematic but also minority person in their video is fucking insane. Like yeah we expect highly of them as fans but they’re still human being who make mistakes or have valid reasons for their behaviour and to assume the absolute worst of someone because they associated with someone who was deemed cancelled is just fucking insane. This is why we the left, don’t win. We’re too busy fighting ourselves to unite against fascism. Ollie and Natalie have done more to stop fascism than any of us combined. And yet they aren’t good enough because of cross associations...? Baffling

@Flameclaw123

3 жыл бұрын

@@briannawaldorf8485 That's not what I'm talking about at all?? I mentioned Shane Dawson and ProJared, both of whom were accused of associating inappropriately with minors among other things (such as excessive, repeated racism on Shane's part). Nowhere did I mention "purity testing" Ollie or Natalie for associating with someone who isn't great. In fact I didn't mention either of them at all. I like Ollie and Natalie's content a great deal. My comment was about the parasocial aspect of assuming you know someone and then feeling betrayed when serious (and sometimes less serious) accusations come to light, and how this leads to a snap response by many people.

@antidotebrain69

Жыл бұрын

I only find the digging into people's childhoods, and early content, annoying. If someone hasn't done anything questionable in the present, then digging into their past to find a reason to hate them is wrong, on a fundamental level. If you dislike their content, or a current opinion, or something they haven't expressed an opinion on, just don't watch them. Don't go looking for a reason to hate someone. That makes you no better than the racists and bigots of the world.

"The problem is rent; rent as in what you pay to a landlord, not the musical." I'm just gonna go ahead and throw out there that Rent is also a problem.

@dakevinmg

4 жыл бұрын

Lindsay Ellis intensifies

@RRyleM

4 жыл бұрын

Yes Rent is a problem, but why can I do the whole opening scene/number if asked?

@duffman18

4 жыл бұрын

@@dakevinmg yeah, Rent the musical is...erm....problematic. But it's got good music at least... Linday Ellis's video on it is great, because it talks about this history of the AIDS crisis in America and how poorly it was dealt with, along with talking about the musical

@catarinalopes7891

4 жыл бұрын

rent is clearly THE problem

The last message before the live chat shut down was "Not enough nipples. Otherwise, great video." And I have to say I love that for us.

"I once played Romeo across a trans woman playing Juliet" is very appropriate now omgosh

@randomdogdog

3 жыл бұрын

A few days ago,I thought that that statement was kinda weird. There shouldn't be much controversy about a trans lady playing Juliet...

@araw_buwan

3 жыл бұрын

Now I wanna see Abigail as Juliet

I want to say that I really appreciate how she didn’t make hyperbolic joke art of the people that message her needing a proper therapist and seeking serious help from her

@codemonster8443

2 жыл бұрын

Should've made an image of a miserable person watching with tired and desperate eyes, dimly lit by a computer screen. Would have been a reflection TBH.

@apollo1493

2 жыл бұрын

@@codemonster8443 Nah that would be too easy to interpret as a mockery

"Friedrich Nietzsche was a pretty weird guy.." Me: writes notes feverishly

@Crochetems

4 жыл бұрын

Lorraine McGrail 🔭👀🧽 WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN 📝✍️😬

@ethanmcnary9119

4 жыл бұрын

he went out hugging a horse so forget all the baggage and implications that come with his ideas and hes a pretty cool dude

@BlakeGeometrio

4 жыл бұрын

College freshmen in a nutshell.

@fuzzyhair321

4 жыл бұрын

@@BlakeGeometrio lol or like late 20s male having a crisis

“And what do we do when we can’t make sense of things? We👏lie👏on👏the👏kitchen👏floor👏and👏cry👏” Relatable

@Ghost-ss1vu

4 жыл бұрын

I was brushing my teeth we this happened, and let's just say it didn't end well...

Lol two transwomen playing Romeo and Juliet, his head gonna explode.

@fredreickweaver809

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao was waiting for this one :)

@deeznutz8320

3 жыл бұрын

Two dudes are playing Romeo and Juliet?

@catross3713

3 жыл бұрын

@@deeznutz8320 legit man I'm sorry about whatever is going on in your life making you angry projecting that onto someone else. Peace and love, it gets better

@floridianwolf1029

3 жыл бұрын

I deadass thought it was two male-identifying people in a gay version of Romeo and Juliet.

abi’s guy presenting phase really peaked at this modern bacchus look

That uncanny valley American accent is horrifying.

@buchling1

4 жыл бұрын

Is there a way to explain why it's horrifying? I'm neither British nor American, I've learned English as a second language, and to me it doesn't sound that different from the way Olly normally speaks.

@JoeyisDREADful

4 жыл бұрын

@@buchling1 Search "Uncanny Valley" that actually is the psych explanation of why it'll creep certain Americans out.

@XenaBe25

4 жыл бұрын

@@JoeyisDREADful That must be why so many Brits do so well playing Americans in contemporary horror :)

@void9938

4 жыл бұрын

@@buchling1 it's not american enough to read as 'american' but it's still hitting the 'aspects' of an american accent to make it feel like it's just not quite right and some kind of mimicry, much like how the uncanny valley makes you feel uneasy when you see something that mimics a human without actually making you feel/know it is human. sorry if that was just more confusing.

@buchling1

4 жыл бұрын

@@void9938 No, that was a good explanation, thank you. I guess since it's not my first language the wrongness of it just doesn't klick with me.

If anyone needs me, I'll be over here laughing about someone getting upset about 'perversity, incongruity and disrespect' in Shakespeare.

@GreysonParker

4 жыл бұрын

I bite my thumb at you sir

@apollinairebonnal2290

4 жыл бұрын

Even more so once you consider he was part of the theater. I mean does he just read the words but not understand them or something ? He should know shakespear better than 99% of people. Or maybe he's one of those guys who go on and on about those Iambic pentameters behing so perfect but never stops for a second to think about the deeper meaning ? That's some embarrassing shit at this point...

@Eagledude131

4 жыл бұрын

If Shakespeare could hear that criticism of a production of his work, the man who said it would die in his next play

@caspianodinsson5084

4 жыл бұрын

The bawdy comments about Juliet's nurse come to mind readily.

@ADerpyReality

4 жыл бұрын

If we really cared about 'tradition' we'd leave all the sex scenes in and wouldn't care about swapping the sexes around as that happens in multiple plays to the characters.

Plato was such a boomer 🤣 Hearing an ancient tirade about folks these days and their weird new music never fails to make me laugh out loud. I guess some things really never change.

@MannIchFindKeinName

2 жыл бұрын

Some things, or "old people"? ;)

@almishti

9 ай бұрын

Yes Plato was really kind of an asshole. I'll never forgive him for the terrible things he said ma boi Orpheus. 😢

I once visited a super modern take on Macbeth (the language was the same, but there was lots of neon, the witches were kinky BDSM-slaves, a glowing white cube that would get pushed back and forth and reveal puddles of fake blood etc.) and it translated the claustrophobia of the play better than anything I've ever seen before. Art is a feeling, and as we all know - feelings don't follow rules.

@panchovilla7355

Жыл бұрын

Feeling follow rules , best a scientist can create a chemical that makes you feel a certain way

@Nosebleed-Nick

Жыл бұрын

That sounds awesome! Who put that on? It sounds really interesting.

I do think Oliver does offer a very positive form of non-toxic masculinity. He is a very good role model.

@user-lt6ve9ns4d

4 жыл бұрын

I used to think that I hate masculinity. After discovering Olly, I realized I just hate toxic masculinity.

@jared5112

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah alot masculinity is all about unquestionable having as much sex with women as possible, but I honestly would feel extremely uncomfortable being pursued by a woman I didn't know. Maybe thats because im just more timid than other guys. Really dont want strangers touching me unless I know them.

@lopez.jacinto.6726

3 жыл бұрын

@@jared5112 ok... can I hug you? 😉

@BigBugBiggieBug

3 жыл бұрын

@@jared5112 I think that's quite normal/healthy actually!! Toxic masculinity tends to say any sexual attention from a woman is good toi - even if you (or her) are not fond. I think sex is generally tied too tightly to a person's value these days.

@Black-Clad-Disaster

3 жыл бұрын

I've been thinking this for a little while 🖤

wow "Opulence" looks different from what I remembered it to be

@nicktesla1668

4 жыл бұрын

this was in reference to the set and costume I didn't realize he was gonna talk about the drama OOPS

@annieinwonderland

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicktesla1668 I don't remember the end but it seems an appropriate edit. I am going to stick to bloging for this reason.

I’m prone to parasocial relationships and I always try to understand what parts of me the person lights up, what parts of myself are wanting to be nurtured. And sometimes it’s about understanding what might be missing from my real-world friendships and try and build it

I love how so many people (including me) think/thought that “boy flavour” Abigail was the most wholesome version of masculinity. A woman did masculinity best

@sentienttapioca5409

Жыл бұрын

'Boy flavour' 😭

@noodel3374

Жыл бұрын

gonna call my pre coming out self 'boi flavored' aswell now 😭😭

@marinakesawa7470

Жыл бұрын

That would be because masculinity and femininity are completely socially constructed. Gender isn't real. Most animals aren't even visibly sexually dimorphic.

@will493

Жыл бұрын

The woman gives a stellar performance.

@apinakapina

10 ай бұрын

We have been joking about that with my ex-wife... like Abigail does both masculinity and femininity better than either of us could. :D

Olly out there implying I cannot be reading Nietzsche AND lying on the floor, crying, at the same time? Hold my wine

@lucarubinstein3907

4 жыл бұрын

lying on the floor crying is the only time Nietzsche seems like a reasonable dude

@laurenhirth5746

4 жыл бұрын

Olly out there implying that trying to read Nietzche isn't the reason I'm lying on the floor, crying

@PanAndScanBuddy

4 жыл бұрын

*accidentally drops your wine* Aw shit, aw fuck It's the human condition, innit

"Intimacy at a distance" is essentially how we are all living our lives right now

@theautisticguitarist7560

4 жыл бұрын

2020: the year we emailed hugs to our friends.

@CRT.v

4 жыл бұрын

The most physically intimate I've been with my fiancee this week (because we both work with the public, but slightly different parts of it, and are trying to social distance as much as possible at home) was when I attached a clay heart to our cat's collar and kicked him out of the room I was in so he would go to her for pets. She yelled "I love you, you nerd" from across the house and my heart melted a little.

@eliwatson7936

4 жыл бұрын

*intimacy at a socially responsible distance*

@hayk3000

4 жыл бұрын

@@CRT.v that is super sweet

@ordinarytree4678

4 жыл бұрын

@Interstellar Overdrive ya that seems like playing a losing game.

Mate. Just binged watched seven of your productions (jimpressions, darwin vs marx, sexwork, antisematism, chenobyl, abortion and this). I must say that your Bernie impersonation was soo good I had to comment and express my gratitude for not only your awesome content, but especially the manner in which you convey that content. Production is through the roof and if I wasnt currently unemployed, I'd be straight on your patreon. Tempted to go seek out some beginner philosophy stuff as im loving the fact im questioning my own beliefs and pre-conceptions etc all the time. I feel like I owe it to myself to explore these feelings and the science/philosophy behind them. EDIT: As if I wrote this before your section on parasocial relationships 😅 Much love 😍

@appleslover

3 жыл бұрын

Damn, you pretty 😅😂😂

@cockycookie1

3 жыл бұрын

@@appleslover F

@dysmissme7343

2 жыл бұрын

💜 Lol

@mildsoup8978

2 жыл бұрын

I can't believe I had to scroll this far b4 I saw anyone talking about that Bernie impression, now I can't get ancient Greek Bernie out of my head lol

I'm glad olly didn't make a silly creature when he was talking about the people seeking "therapy" from him. I'm not sure if it was intentional, but it was really thoughtful since these people are probably already going through a very hard time and making fun of them might just make their situation worse.

Come for the philosophical discourse, stay for the sexy Englishman dressed as a Roman imitating Bernie Sanders.

@calebmcintosh1991

4 жыл бұрын

I hope this doesn't awaken anything in me

@santipapa6986

4 жыл бұрын

Inteligent Man who demonstrates their intelligence, emotions and sexiness without shame? Yes please give more please

29:52 - Bo Burnham described this well. "I love you!" "No, you love the idea of me"

@oopsiepoopsie2898

4 жыл бұрын

Ellie Harris he is a great comedian ain’t he?

@dangreen3868

4 жыл бұрын

Technically it was a heckler that said this, but this sentiment is really well shown in the song "we think we know you"

@bongle3726

4 жыл бұрын

"my biggest problem's you i wanna please you but i wanna stay true to myself i wanna give you the night out that you deserve but i wanna say what i think and not care what you think about it a part of me loves you a part of hates you a part of me needs you a part of me fears you"

@permanentstateofawe6544

4 жыл бұрын

Bo Burnham is a manic pixie dream girl, _confirmed_

@D9992.

4 жыл бұрын

There are few times in my life when I feel like my life has come a full circle, and this time "someone quoting one of my favorite comedians that I recently got into in a comment on one of my favorite philosophy channels videos that I also recently got into" sure feels like one, thank you.

27:55 I’ve noticed that this is being called “trauma dumping” online lately, idk if this is a new term or has just become more widely used lately, but I’m very glad people are realizing this behavior isn’t appropriate and are calling it out. It’s fine to need therapy, but strangers on the internet are not that.

@moartems5076

3 жыл бұрын

True, people should just use tinder for that instead (got traumadumped on there)

@ilexdiapason

2 жыл бұрын

yeah lol the internet HAS places to do this as well, there are spaces designed for venting where everyone present has consented to you sharing your trauma, random ppls inboxes are not that

I'm also a professional actor trying to latch on to whatever job I can find and omg your diary entry section is SO REAL IT HURTS

The answer to the "why are all the best tiktoks filmed in bathrooms" question is simple I think. 1. They likely come up with the idea in there. Interesting ideas are likely to form doing something mundane, which is also why shower thoughts are a thing. 2. The acoustics are great. 3. The lighting is usually pretty good in a bathroom. 4. It's probably where the biggest mirror they have is, so it's easy to film themselves.

@daluemy4610

4 жыл бұрын

I love the effort you put into this

@ragalyiakos

4 жыл бұрын

You've cracked the code we didn't even know we had...

@tardersauce3578

4 жыл бұрын

The final point mostly

For a moment I felt bad about saying shit like philosophize me daddy, I'm glad this parasocial relationship is working. Joking aside, "Olly showed me a new, more wholesome model of masculinity" squad where ya at.

@rokky6053

4 жыл бұрын

Here, here!✋

@greenfire4115

4 жыл бұрын

Ayyy dat me!

@swanstarr1441

4 жыл бұрын

Hi

@michaelreppenhagen736

4 жыл бұрын

👍👍👍👍

4 жыл бұрын

Aye Aye!

This is the video that hits differently to me with the latest news.

"Betrayed by a Stranger: Cancelling and Parasocial Relationships" would be a great name for an academic book on the topic

Omg, the "general American" accent was SO CLOSE, but it fell right into the uncanny valley. I felt like someone sinister was trying to convince me he was American for some nefarious purpose. Love your newest video! Wonderful job!

@dwc1964

4 жыл бұрын

It reminded me of the terrorists/bank robbers in Die Hard III (the best Die Hard) dressed up as security guards. And there was a bit in there where I couldn't tell if he was doing it or not. The Bernini Sanderonius (?) character, OTOH, was *too* good!

@XenaBe25

4 жыл бұрын

He sounds almost Canadian to me. I find his fake American voice comforting :'(

@Udontkno7

4 жыл бұрын

Spot on! The "r" really made me giggle. We say em, but never so hard on. And the vowels were oddly rounded. It's good, if you aren't American/Canadian.

@misszombiesue

4 жыл бұрын

@@XenaBe25 aw don't be sad. There is always disagreement over whether dolls are cute or creepy. No one is wrong, it's all subjective:)

@XenaBe25

4 жыл бұрын

@@misszombiesue How did you guess? I often have to hide my stuffed toys so people don't get weirded out :(

This side of KZread is really smacking me in the face with the lack of sequins in my home

@titanuranus3095

4 жыл бұрын

@Maple Me too, Like my almost total lack of exiting wallpaper.

@duffman18

4 жыл бұрын

Breadtube is 90% about sequins, 10% about politics

@Gleamiarts

4 жыл бұрын

Don't for get the taxidermied exotic animals

@silvertamagachi

4 жыл бұрын

The set and costume design -- and god, especially Natalie's makeup game -- really make me realize what a frumpy person I am. XD Like, I don't have a single glittery headpiece of any type. (or eyeliner, but that one is more a comment on my laziness)

@ash-tv3bu

4 жыл бұрын

and coloured lighting

the subtitles are so funny 😂 when the music starts when she does the shakespeare voice

Ollie : Put your hand up if the way you voted in country's last election.... Me: Bro, I'm from Syria.

The most strictly educational thighs on KZread.

@kevincrady2831

4 жыл бұрын

"Philosothighs to me, daddy!"

@buzzedbeelzebub9454

4 жыл бұрын

The way his toga rolled down his leg right when he said "not strictly educational" had me in stitches

@cockycookie1

3 жыл бұрын

@@kevincrady2831 "*mommy"

@kevincrady2831

3 жыл бұрын

@@cockycookie1 Hahaha, yep.

Oliver just sitting there, looking like a snac

@SorenWarner

4 жыл бұрын

When has he not been a snack?

@fcoomega7734

4 жыл бұрын

he is not a snac, he is the entire banquet

@draxiss1577

4 жыл бұрын

I love that he shaved his legs, but not his arms or chest. I find that dissonance really funny for some reason.

@JennaLaFaerie

4 жыл бұрын

Definitely a 4 course at least

@igelmithut6320

4 жыл бұрын

Beware the SNACC he brings philosophy and attitude

I genuinely appreciate Olly. Obviously I don't know him, but he has helped me become more comfortable in my own masculinity and shown me more complicated and nuanced ways of looking at the world.

3:45 oh, how the turntables

I don't know why but hearing "general american" triggered my fight or flight response

@czechmeoutbabe1997

4 жыл бұрын

Same here, I think my nervous system kicked in when it realized it was receiving information in such a familiar but also deeply horrifyingly foreign accent that it short circuited

@donotgotthis

4 жыл бұрын

Like the vocal version of the Uncanny Valley

@shitocodone8940

4 жыл бұрын

Grace Milton it’s like all the words start off british so you think it’ll end a certain way but then it ends american.

@ILikeMints

4 жыл бұрын

i was absolutely horrified to learn that they actually TEACH this accent to innocent acting students, especially that awful waluigi-esque "ahh"

Abigail:**comes out as bi** Abigail:**Uses "Sweatter weather" 3 videos afer that** edit: name

@hannavignolo6454

4 жыл бұрын

bi culture

@callusklaus2413

4 жыл бұрын

@@hannavignolo6454 tru

@turquoisecrow4513

4 жыл бұрын

And that’s on bi culture

my brain exploded when i saw your post-visible transition videos first, and then this. so happy you've made so much progress. you're truly goals for this girl. ok, now to watch your vid

Re-watching old videos of Abigail is so wildly cool, because she's right there. And she's always been brilliant.

Although "Rent" the musical is also a problem.

@irrelevantFJS

4 жыл бұрын

I feel personally attacked, what???? XD

@BadWolfRT

4 жыл бұрын

@Kira Diaz Nah, it's not nearly long enough for that! 😂

@El_Rey_247

4 жыл бұрын

and for people who don't want to commit to such a long video, I recommend Folding Ideas' "Rent and the Failure of Visual Storytelling" (~10 minutes)

@liquidstone14

4 жыл бұрын

Kira Diaz 😯😯"THEY'RE MOOING WITH HER" 😯😯

Funny how Shakespeare wasn't traditional AT ALL ( *oh at all* ) when he was alive and working. I don't think he'd like how uptight people are.

@jdprettynails

4 жыл бұрын

I actually think he'd approve of the gender bent versions of his plays

@RosesAndIvy

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I thought gender bending in Shakespeare’s plays was pretty common?

@ScorpionViper1001

4 жыл бұрын

Literally my tour guide at the Louvre when talking about the now famous glass pyramid and talking about how some people "didn't like the modern buildings among the old architecture." As I pointed out, and she agreed with me, "Back when it was a castle, and then a palace, at some point every building, portrait, and sculpture was modern during that time." Also apparently some people dislike a pyramid, a supposed death symbol, at the center of the Louvre. But I think those people are wrong about I.M. Pei's vision. The pyramid does not represent death, but eternity. My guide made a point of showing not just each individual piece of art, but also how certain styles influenced others. And I noticed something, probably the same thing Pei did. From the ancient Egyptians to the Romans to Napoleon to I.M. Pei. The pyramid has been a symbol for every one of these people. And it is not a symbol of death, but of eternity. The only true kind of eternity there is: the eternity of memory, the eternity of symbols, the eternity of art, and the eternity represented by modern museums to immortalize the works of great people and to give us a little time capsule of the ages they live in.

@pokelolmc6826

4 жыл бұрын

Renate vd Bent Yeah, he wrote an entire play about a woman crossdressing as her thought-dead brother.

@dearleader7623

4 жыл бұрын

@@ScorpionViper1001 Which is most likely why Nicolas Cage's tomb is a pyramid. That guy understands something, cause he knows he's gone down to meme eternity.

I feel like the rise in platforms that encourage the cultivation of parasocial relationships has coincided with a crisis of loneliness and alienation, which has led to people relying so heavily on these relationships. It is also a way for people to engage with ideas and strangers online without the stress associated with being insulted, degraded or belittled by strangers for a poorly worded comment or tweet.

I think the conversation towards the end is one of the most just genuine and simple ways I’ve heard a creator talk about how parasocial relationships affect them and both the good and bad. Thank you for all the amazing content!

"You showed me a model of masculinity which I felt was wholesome and not toxic" You're right, this is a really big thing to be told: must feel both heady and overwhelming. I totally agree with the sentiment though, and thank you for being that figure for so many people.

@iplayeddishonored2475

4 жыл бұрын

Mark Donald epic lobster meme

Occasionally I'll not click on a PhilsophyTube because I believe "Eh, I'll watch this later, it doesn't sound like its up my alley" and I'm always surprised and humbled by the execution and content.

@GHOST-in-the-MACHINE

4 жыл бұрын

Me, ADHD on the brain: Do I have the mental resources to sit still for 45 minutes to an hour and focus on this bloke talking about Stuff? Nah. Well, maybe a few minutes, as a treat. Me, 45 minutes to an hour later: I've only been here for five minutes, speak more things to me, I demand???

@kevinpreciado4740

3 жыл бұрын

John thank you john

@anomienormie8126

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. I've just resined myself to the fact that I will enjoy all of them now.

I still feel so bad over what happened to Natalie...I didn't realize the extend of it. Sometimes mobs are scary af. Anyway, wonderful video!

As an aspiring writer, I found this video immensely encouraging and useful. I think you set an excellent example of how to produce content in an ethical and responsible way. Also your style and aesthetic is DELIGHTFUL 😁💜

"The philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche was a pretty weird guy" Olly, 2020

@Alexandterrara

4 жыл бұрын

yeah that checks out

@Liliputian07

4 жыл бұрын

the man killed by horse sadness was a weird guy? no way

@mrclueuin

4 жыл бұрын

Well he may have been weird but I heard somewhere that His Wife was a real, umm, Witch and his brother-in-law... ...oh boy! Let's just say that with Family members like that I'd be a little nutty too! 😏😉

@Bisquick

4 жыл бұрын

IN. Deed. Also a fuckin' genius. Definitely some crossover there it seems.

"This is my job, I love what I do. Sometimes it makes me sick; that's why I have a therapist." Can I just point out how cool this line is? Amazing work Olly!

@hanami741

4 жыл бұрын

yep. just like: life is like art: meaningless, expensive and mostly rubbish

6 minutes in, laughing like a loon. Thank you for making these big ideas so much fun to learn. I've always loved philosophy, but the perspectives & humour on this channel are chef's kiss

So I had my YT on autoplay. Background listened like 90% of this and went, "huh, this guy is pretty good, I should check out his other stuff.". Then I got super confused when I saw I was already subscribed, did a double take when I saw the name, and literally thought, "why is some guy on Philosophy Tube's channel?". Then I remembered she first presented male, and I felt super dumb. All this to say, cheers to Abigail: she's so good I tried to subscribe twice.

@Umbrage0

Жыл бұрын

Same! I saw abigail first and just thought they had a dunamic duo thing going on like Katie and Cody from some more news' channel 😅

@Loki_K

Жыл бұрын

@@Umbrage0 ahhhhhh, a fellow fan of Cody's Showdy! (For anyone unfamiliar, check out Some More News on YT. Perfect blend of darkness and information)

@mariannetfinches

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 KZread never shows me male creators because I'm less likely to click a video with what I predict will be a perspective I've heard before. So I felt both cheated, & bad for not giving white men a chance, & vindicated because she isn't one😅 In conclusion, I'm still going to choose creators whose perspectives are more likely to be overlooked, even if it means I might miss the occasional gem, but I'm very glad Abby's channel made it to my eyeballs

"General American" reminds me so much of your Ben Shapiro impression

@thenorwegianbuttercrisisof2011

4 жыл бұрын

Alexander Sowa I’m pretty sure his Ben Shapiro impression IS just “General American”

@CapriUni

4 жыл бұрын

@@thenorwegianbuttercrisisof2011 General American at an octave higher than his natural range, and twice the speed.

@auroralee

4 жыл бұрын

Capri-Omni YES. SO TRUE.

@obiwankenobi3058

4 жыл бұрын

Ben Shapiro is the only American who speaks with a general American accent

@CapriUni

4 жыл бұрын

@@obiwankenobi3058 The thought did occur to me that his accent might be something he deliberately cultivated, for rhetorical purposes.

“why are the best tiktoks filmed in bathrooms?” no one will ever answer that one

@olivervanderkuip1627

4 жыл бұрын

I'm like 70% sure it's just because they have the biggest mirrors

@KilljoyHaight

4 жыл бұрын

The acoustics

@pit2559

4 жыл бұрын

maybe bathrooms are just the best rooms, and has usually extra lighting around the mirror

@eruno_

4 жыл бұрын

Best ideas happen in the bathroom hah

@LWylie

4 жыл бұрын

Neoliberalism = 5 people in a 2bed house = bathroom privacy = creative space. Everything is capitalism's fault

Got into your videos recently, and really really enjoy them. I like your values and ethics, and your content is always very measured. Thank you :)

Did anyone else get distracted by how the tiger on the left looks like it needs to sneeze?

I appreciate that “fan #3” didn’t get a funny caricature. Thank you Making a joke out of someone who desperately needs help, no matter how funny, can do some real damage... Speaking from experience. As the joker and the joke-ee. Young me was a fool

@valkyrie5579

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. Not including an image for that was a strong move that shows empathy for people in that situation, while also addressing in a tactful manner that they should be seeking help in a healthier way. That being said, “Speaking from experience as the joker and the joke-ee” made me imagine that you’ve spent time both as The Joker, and some kind of Anti-Joker called The Joke-ee who does good acts because Society(tm) isn’t really all that bad and people are inherently good

@ShePudding

4 жыл бұрын

Tom Robinson: okay. Not what I meant, but that is kinda awesome, so now that is EXACTLY what I meant.

@ShePudding

4 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I was just too open with my internal bullshit to the internet once or twice, and got ripped to shreds. I’ve also tried to pull off dark humor at *very* inappropriate times. Kinda glad I learned those lessons young, but they were not easy. Not every forum is the right one to say everything on your mind, and sometimes even a playful critique can kick someone while they’re down. Just... gotta cultivate your sympathy and empathy. Kindness all around. We *do* live in a society... haven’t you heard? (lol)

@kevincrady2831

4 жыл бұрын

@@ShePudding [Marvin the Martian voice] "Oh, this cultural Marxist post-modern recontextualizing of meaning has gone too far! The Chaos Dragons have taken over! Fig. 476 of my book 12 Rules For Life illustrates this problem very clearly..."

"turn around and face the lie: why orpheus turned around and chose a parasocial relationship with eurydice from hell instead of a real one, an essay"

@igelmithut6320

4 жыл бұрын

Low-key would read it. Send it to my inbox and you would get some points for next semester

@Hakajin

4 жыл бұрын

Lol, makes me think of Portrait of a Lady on Fire.

@clarkpagels5471

4 жыл бұрын

then there is Ovid's/Virgil's version of the story, which mentions how they (live?) in the afterlife together for eternity in marital bliss.

@drunklandlord

4 жыл бұрын

​@@clarkpagels5471 people's spousal standards were not so high at the time, marrying a pillar of salt may have been an image of bliss for many

@soph1111e

4 жыл бұрын

This comment is important.

Oliver, I have only seen a handful of your videos, but I already adore your channel. I might also be falling in love with your mind, wittiness, and humor. Big thumbs up, keep rocking on!

Imma just say this, I really like the music you use for the credits and stuff. It’s super cool. Also thank you sir for making really great videos.

"Intimacy from a distance" you say? *Laughs in pandemic-induced self-isolation* We got that in spades. And now we have to disinfect those spades.

Oh look it's a new ContraPoi- *wait a minute that's Olly*

@jonathanthethird52

4 жыл бұрын

Butterflyposting has transcended /lit/. Unbelievable.

@ToriKo_

4 жыл бұрын

@Jonathan the Third what does /lit/ mean

@seratonyn

4 жыл бұрын

FREEDOM OR DEATH. Unless there is a reason to give up one's freedom.. even this cicada here gives up his freedom for SOME cause, right?

@asuka_the_void_witch

4 жыл бұрын

fabulous username

Man I got really emotional rewatching this right now. Thanks for producing such meaningful work man

Totally love this one! It was quite interesting to think about para-social relationships whilst reading the subtitles in your endcard (which always cheer me up by a looooooot). I am always super happy to read these words, thanks for doing the effort for something so hidden :)

It's really incredible what the mix of parasocial relationships and anonymity can do. You said that it can feel like a betrayal when someone you admire does something you don't like or approve of, much the same way it hurts when a friend does something like that, but I can't imagine these people would send death threats to their real friends. They could just talk to their friend, but the lack of access to someone they've formed a parasocial bond with pushes them to extremes so their demands are noticed. They know you aren't going to personally respond to them, they know they won't be able to have a one-on-one to fully explain what they think you've done wrong, so they just exert as much pressure as possible to make you change while knowing that being anonymous protects them from consequences. Or maybe I'm just rambling, I dunno.

@jordanwhite8718

4 жыл бұрын

Nacho or they’re just bullies.

@sansiantan9840

4 жыл бұрын

You’re sort of right, but I don’t think it’s because they’re being pushed to extremes that they send death threats. I’m more likely to think it’s because, despite the parasocial relationship, it’s harder to grasp that the person behind the screen is as real a person as your friend, which makes it easier on the conscience to be mean to them. (Although why you would do that to someone you admire I have no fucking clue.) Add that to the fact that anonymity lessens the consequences-your friend might tell your other friends and ruin your rep if you do something awful to them, but an Internet personality can, at worst, block you but that’s it.

@Hamletonium

4 жыл бұрын

That said, I've seen some amazingly unhealthy people who will do awful things to their friendships, things like threatening suicide over menial disagreements or as a way to manipulate.

@kaitlyn__L

4 жыл бұрын

A lot of those people who send anonymous death threats absolutely do make them to their real friends, or threaten suicide or other big risky act to gain a desired behaviour too. Or threaten a breakup, or a release of some secret the friend had formerly entrusted them to. Many of those people quickly stop being friends with the person who made the threats, but a few stay in fear (which leads the abuser to think it's a winning tactic, just as PUAs thinking a 1% "success rate" is actually really high and a sign of their skill??).

@kupamanduka

4 жыл бұрын

Well, I've heard people send anonymous death threats to their real friend, so perhaps that's another two cents. I mean, whether how close parasocial relationship could feel like it's real, there's a barrier where everyone short of grasp it. The barrier is there. So that's why they went to the extreme, and perhaps that's too why they went anonymous to sent death threats to their real friends. Because, apparently, they're cowards. And they want their identity keep unknown as strong as possible.

You steal Contras couch or something?

@XenaBe25

4 жыл бұрын

What? I've never seen Natalie pose with a tiger. There's smthg just a little more dangerous about that pose than anything Natalie's ever done. Tigers are the only animals that have left us with evidence that they intentionally hunt humans bc they enjoy the way we taste. I hope Olly will pull out his best angry Richard Madden for us again. The brogue and the leather bear look would go grrrrreat with that scary cat :)

@Juliett-A

4 жыл бұрын

@@XenaBe25 Bullshit. Being a trans woman is far scarier than 100 tigers.

@mirmalchik

4 жыл бұрын

@@diamondust2054 Read her comment again? I don't think she's saying what you perceived her as saying. Like, "bullshit" is in reference to the idea that posing with a tiger is more dangerous than being a trans woman. Terrible people exist on the internet, but so do people whose tone translates poorly into a purely textual medium.

@synonymous_

4 жыл бұрын

@@XenaBe25 big cat nerd here: leopards have been historically recorded to kill much, *much* larger amounts of humans per individual. One leopard in india killed close to 200 people in less than a year. Considering tigers are the largest and leopards the smallest of the big cat type, I think that makes leopards the bigger humanphobes.

@synonymous_

4 жыл бұрын

@@diamondust2054 where was the transphobia? She probably IS a trans woman considering she's talking about BEING a trans woman. Maybe read the comment properly before you go off on a patronizing rant? Nobody is attacking you and a lot of what you're saying seems like pure projection.

Fascinating and thought-provoking! I'd heard of parasocial relationships before, but hadn't thought through the application to fandoms. This is the great side of KZread - finding food for thought that's totally outside of my discipline. (Not to mention ideas for how I might better present concepts to my own students as we face the prospect of another semester potentially online.)