Armor Review: Armstreet Brigandine - The Common Man's Plate

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This is an interesting type of armor, basically the footsoldier's cheaper alternative to a plate harness. It's not very heavy and provides excellent protection, and it doesn't need to be perfectly fitted to the wearer the way that a knight's suit of armor does.
This is also the closest historical equivalent to what is referred to as splint / splinted armor in roleplaying games.
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  • @IMarcaI
    @IMarcaI5 жыл бұрын

    This style of armor is most likely the cause of the "studded leather armor" myth

  • @Asghaad

    @Asghaad

    5 жыл бұрын

    and on other hand is criminally underutilized and crapped on in RPGs just because it was cheaper to make and thus used by common soldiers ... except as Skall accurately put it, the brigandine was the next best thing to full plate armor while being MUCH less restrictive than full plate and weighting a hell of a lot less too

  • @Knoloaify

    @Knoloaify

    5 жыл бұрын

    You have to bear in mind that brigandine wasn't used alone, so you can't compare it to full plate since it could also be used with a plate kit for the more wealthy soldiers and even nobles who had their own state-of-the-art brigandine. Also it really doesn't seem that lighter than a cuirasse, I mean instead of a steel plate it's a bunch of iron plate covering the same amount of surface but studded to leather/cloth, that doesn't sound like it would be much lighter.

  • @cykablyat6348

    @cykablyat6348

    5 жыл бұрын

    Asghaad im pretty sure alot of rpg's out there are not focused on reality

  • @fimbul_

    @fimbul_

    5 жыл бұрын

    The plates of the Brigandine overlap and cause the additional weight compared to a single breastplate & backplate. So full plate weights less if both made out of the same metal gauge.

  • @siosilvar

    @siosilvar

    5 жыл бұрын

    Studded leather is 100% Gygax & friends looking at a brigandine and not realizing the "studs" are rivets holding in the platelets. They weren't exactly historical experts -- what's "banded mail" supposed to be, anyway?

  • @vampysesii883
    @vampysesii8835 жыл бұрын

    "It's alright, I'll survive." -Famous last words of Skallagrim Nilsson, before being accidentally murdered by Cara using an axe.

  • @charlottewalnut3118

    @charlottewalnut3118

    4 жыл бұрын

    Vampyses II “Accidentally”

  • @suzumiyaharuhi3438

    @suzumiyaharuhi3438

    4 жыл бұрын

    This but a scratch!

  • @forrestdorman4870

    @forrestdorman4870

    4 жыл бұрын

    Actually he’s got a fair sized bruise on his head I’m kind of curious where he got it from...

  • @suzumiyaharuhi3438

    @suzumiyaharuhi3438

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@forrestdorman4870 Well that was a Monty Python reference.

  • @guiorgy

    @guiorgy

    3 жыл бұрын

    I mean it's not that hard to miss a bit above and hit the head, and even worse, a bit below and hit ... Well ugh... You know...

  • @dancingphycisisthabibi8575
    @dancingphycisisthabibi85755 жыл бұрын

    Skall playing Blackjack in vegas: "Hit me" "16" "Harder" "22" "I felt that" ---------------------- Skall drinking at pub afterwards. "Vodka Martini? Are you sure?" "It's all right, I survive." *Drinks* "That's too light" *Drinks a stronger drink* "Yep. I can feel that".

  • @lastwymsi

    @lastwymsi

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dancing Phycisist Habibi this is the next meme.

  • @lucasaugusto4332

    @lucasaugusto4332

    5 жыл бұрын

    Skall shooting the Reaver Cleaver: "hit me" *shoots it with a .22* "harder" *shoots it with a 7.62* *it breaks* "i felt that"

  • @carltonbauheimer

    @carltonbauheimer

    5 жыл бұрын

    This got a chuckle out of me.

  • @GlitchDoctor

    @GlitchDoctor

    5 жыл бұрын

    make "I felt that" the new Skall meme

  • @trashbin7205

    @trashbin7205

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@GlitchDoctor does that mean "end him rightly" has been ended rightly?

  • @MannenFromNorth
    @MannenFromNorth5 жыл бұрын

    When your mum dresses you before going out.

  • @haiderkhanbaba4870

    @haiderkhanbaba4870

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nikko x XD

  • @jackevans7366

    @jackevans7366

    5 жыл бұрын

    This cracked me up

  • @hizkias2679

    @hizkias2679

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nikko x the accuracy is unreal

  • @2bingtim

    @2bingtim

    5 жыл бұрын

    I knew it was downhill when my mum stopped dressing me at 3.

  • @bryanskscion2229

    @bryanskscion2229

    5 жыл бұрын

    When your mom swings an axe into your gut.

  • @TheAegisClaw
    @TheAegisClaw5 жыл бұрын

    You know how cops are always saying bullet proof vests don't work against knives? Just have them wear a brigandine over the top.

  • @Lowekinder

    @Lowekinder

    5 жыл бұрын

    TheAegisClaw stab proof vests are basically that

  • @TheAegisClaw

    @TheAegisClaw

    5 жыл бұрын

    Jim Ticka the ones I've seen just have a single plate on the chest, nowhere near as much protection or any articulation.

  • @PsylomeAlpha

    @PsylomeAlpha

    5 жыл бұрын

    What they should do is just put the layer of brigandine over the vest.

  • @vaalence9043

    @vaalence9043

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think not so long ago in Germany, special anti-crowd forces or something like that were wearing chainmail to avoid getting stabbed, mainly by the Syrian immigrants (I think).

  • @reedy_9619

    @reedy_9619

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hanthome plate armor+ bulletproof vest anti riot?

  • @jose-ji6yj
    @jose-ji6yj5 жыл бұрын

    Anyone else liking the sound of plate and mail armor pieces rattling around? That's like a white noise or something

  • @davidclarke9663

    @davidclarke9663

    5 жыл бұрын

    you should get a recording and play it at night to lull you into sleep. I like the sound too ha ha.

  • @jorgehanel8837

    @jorgehanel8837

    5 жыл бұрын

    Medieval Asskicking Roleplay (ASMR)

  • @verbalbbq7976

    @verbalbbq7976

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's quite soothing

  • @KuLaydMahn

    @KuLaydMahn

    5 жыл бұрын

    There is something very satisfying about it... It's like just hearing the metal rattling around makes me feel a little more impervious.

  • @DrakkarCalethiel

    @DrakkarCalethiel

    5 жыл бұрын

    Plate armor, exactly my thing!

  • @lastwymsi
    @lastwymsi5 жыл бұрын

    Skall watches a sad movie: "Yep, I felt that."

  • @animalxINSTINCT89
    @animalxINSTINCT895 жыл бұрын

    "Hey Cara, grab that pommel over there, and hit me with it" - Chest Explodes

  • @ninjahombrepalito1721

    @ninjahombrepalito1721

    5 жыл бұрын

    Steve Richardson "Yep, I felt that" XD

  • @ninjahombrepalito1721

    @ninjahombrepalito1721

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ser Eric I see what you did there XD

  • @catscrath25alpha83

    @catscrath25alpha83

    5 жыл бұрын

    Steve Richardson end him rightly

  • @Randomdudefromtheinternet

    @Randomdudefromtheinternet

    4 жыл бұрын

    What's the safe word?

  • @camper1749

    @camper1749

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think you meant "chest implodes into a black hole"

  • @KuronoCthulhu
    @KuronoCthulhu5 жыл бұрын

    It is so cool to hear a metal sound when a sword hits what looks like fabric. Seriously, that's my jam.

  • @ninjahombrepalito1721

    @ninjahombrepalito1721

    5 жыл бұрын

    You Know IKR XD

  • @Benzy670
    @Benzy6705 жыл бұрын

    Henry’s come to see us! God save you, Henry! 😂

  • @yezzy77g71

    @yezzy77g71

    5 жыл бұрын

    Justin Jesus Christ be praised

  • @sebastiandurando2493

    @sebastiandurando2493

    5 жыл бұрын

    Jesus Christ be praised.

  • @GenuineJellyfish

    @GenuineJellyfish

    5 жыл бұрын

    I feel quite hungry.

  • @DavidGonzalez-iq4dd

    @DavidGonzalez-iq4dd

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm feeling quite hungry

  • @eroktartonga4032

    @eroktartonga4032

    5 жыл бұрын

    Turnip.

  • @Deathbyreality1
    @Deathbyreality15 жыл бұрын

    3:41 famous last words.

  • @Schizohandlers

    @Schizohandlers

    5 жыл бұрын

    "Its ok I'll survive"

  • @psemek8000

    @psemek8000

    5 жыл бұрын

    "Harder"

  • @beanieguitarguy4070

    @beanieguitarguy4070

    5 жыл бұрын

    Literally what EVERY KZreadr that dies says before dying.

  • @theprodigalson4003

    @theprodigalson4003

    5 жыл бұрын

    MJY that’s what that guy said before his girlfriend shot a dessert eagle point blank at his chest a while Back

  • @goldenageofdinosaurs7192
    @goldenageofdinosaurs71925 жыл бұрын

    Damn, Skall, that gambeson looks like it was made by the North Face! I’d totally wear that for my winter coat.

  • @davidclarke9663

    @davidclarke9663

    5 жыл бұрын

    It was stylish too. Maybe Skall will start a new fashion trend.

  • @PsylomeAlpha

    @PsylomeAlpha

    5 жыл бұрын

    heheh, "new"

  • @KuLaydMahn

    @KuLaydMahn

    5 жыл бұрын

    At one point I actually was going to order a gambeson and use it as a winter coat as well because it looked like a thick leather jacket. I mean, it looked pretty nice so why not? No one would suspect what a massive geek I'm being by wearing my medieval armor around town, and I could walk around feeling that much safer!

  • @DrakkarCalethiel

    @DrakkarCalethiel

    5 жыл бұрын

    Funny enough, I actually wear a gambeson as a winter jacket. Looks really awesome and you definetly never feel cold. :D

  • @andrewp8284

    @andrewp8284

    5 жыл бұрын

    chris maggiora IIRC that was done historically; I imagine most people didn't have big wardrobes then, so if you had a layered/padded garment, why not put it on. Also IIRC some were wool, which obviously helps with warmth. There were civilian and military coats, jackets, tunics, and caps made of wool well into the 20th century of course.

  • @BigPuddin
    @BigPuddin5 жыл бұрын

    It was actually pretty adorable how Cara didn't want to hit you even though she knew you'd probably be fine.

  • @JustinY.
    @JustinY.5 жыл бұрын

    The clanging sound is weirdly satisfying.

  • @twanahamawandi6546

    @twanahamawandi6546

    5 жыл бұрын

    Justin Y. fuck you are here too

  • @Devil-tm4nu

    @Devil-tm4nu

    5 жыл бұрын

    Justin Y. Wtf are you doing here now?

  • @fhf794

    @fhf794

    5 жыл бұрын

    Stfu

  • @t.h.8400

    @t.h.8400

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nice to see you here.

  • @ananon5771

    @ananon5771

    5 жыл бұрын

    where do you find the time to write so many comments

  • @MedievalGenie
    @MedievalGenie5 жыл бұрын

    Please note: The Armstreet version you showed there is very expensive for its level of quality. I have a similar quality one from Steel Mastery in Europe for less than HALF the price for example.

  • @NordicEagleVids

    @NordicEagleVids

    5 жыл бұрын

    I’m getting mine from steel mastery to soon, How did you like yours? In terms of fit and quality

  • @halfdangrafeldt7239

    @halfdangrafeldt7239

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@NordicEagleVids Unless you've already gone and bought it Andrey galevskyi makes significantly better and more historically accurate ones for better prices than either armstreet or steel mastery (both of who are over priced and essentially make costume armour)

  • @Ulfheodin

    @Ulfheodin

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@halfdangrafeldt7239 Yeah this one is really shitty lmao

  • @JacksonTutchenerEllis

    @JacksonTutchenerEllis

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Ulfheodin Yes, this armstreet one isn't great. I'm getting mine from Ash at Armour Services Historical. He is probably the best brigandine maker there is and he is very sought after so his waiting times are pretty extreme. As far as authenticity and quality goes, his are arguably the best you can get. But they are very expensive though, worth it!

  • @danielkeslerjr4407

    @danielkeslerjr4407

    Жыл бұрын

    Honestly, everyone saying how bad the quality is on this one shows how effective they really are.

  • @KnightsWithoutATable
    @KnightsWithoutATable5 жыл бұрын

    The solar plexus still being able to be hit hard enough to knock the wind out of you with this armor reminded me of the shape, positioning, and function of trauma plates in modern ballistic armor.

  • @knate44
    @knate445 жыл бұрын

    We need more Cara, they are the best medieval dude bro.

  • @whatwhat3825
    @whatwhat38255 жыл бұрын

    This might be heresy but I'd love to see a bow vs brigandine thing.

  • @BoojumFed

    @BoojumFed

    5 жыл бұрын

    I figure a good, heavy-draw bow would probably be one of your best bets for getting through this thing; since high-velocity bolts or arrows and particularly well-thrown spears/ javelins might bend in the edges of an internal plate or two and continue on into the gambeson or even meat... Tbh, my money would be more on the crossbow than any period bows; though modern bows would obviously have a better chance.

  • @spearhunked1369

    @spearhunked1369

    5 жыл бұрын

    BoojumFed completely agree.

  • @crusaderzero3984

    @crusaderzero3984

    5 жыл бұрын

    @BoojumFed Skallagrim actually had done the test in his another video (kzread.info/dash/bejne/ioGImMqjp7yefrQ.html), using 1000 lbs windlass crossbow shoot the Lamellar and Solid plate. Both gears successfully defeated the heavy bolt while the cord used to connect small piece plates of Lamellar broke after received heavy strike. That's the reason why riveted armor (Coat of plate, Brigandine and Russian Kuyak) gradually replaced old corded lamellar armor not only in Europe but also in many asian countries such as China and Korea. China still use these type of armor during First Opium War.

  • @RhodokTribesman

    @RhodokTribesman

    6 ай бұрын

    Tod's Workshop has episodes about arrows vs plate and brigandine armors, shields of different types etc

  • @damic3237
    @damic32375 жыл бұрын

    3:30-4:45 Is that how your foreplay looks like? ;P

  • @robby6382

    @robby6382

    5 жыл бұрын

    damic lol

  • @duragdan2000

    @duragdan2000

    5 жыл бұрын

    "thats okay" .... "harder" .... "i felt that" Typical foreplay.

  • @marcun666

    @marcun666

    5 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if their neighbors got used to hearing that.

  • @Direwoof

    @Direwoof

    5 жыл бұрын

    harder

  • @caracaes

    @caracaes

    5 жыл бұрын

    Skall "Was it good?" Cara "a little bit disturbing actually..."

  • @rebelhero966
    @rebelhero9665 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Skallagrim for the shoutout. I loved the outtakes.

  • @darekbaird
    @darekbaird5 жыл бұрын

    Skall gets hit with a sword "Harder" Pommel is unscrewed, thrown, and a nuclear explosion happens "I felt that"

  • @loustancu3480
    @loustancu34803 жыл бұрын

    The waist taper is absolutely critical, even flexible armors like mail and brigandine become far more nimble when belted at the waist to put weight on the hips. Otherwise it becomes more of a flak jacket haha

  • @radeni
    @radeni5 жыл бұрын

    Now i know what to wear in case of another crusade

  • @manuelschurig2266

    @manuelschurig2266

    5 жыл бұрын

    Mr. Radeni DEUS VULT!

  • @jondeoliveira8248

    @jondeoliveira8248

    5 жыл бұрын

    The armour of God, you heretic!

  • @ultrixcrucesignatus1261

    @ultrixcrucesignatus1261

    5 жыл бұрын

    Jon De Oliveira - He must wear both, if he is to survive such an onslaught!

  • @schleybailey

    @schleybailey

    5 жыл бұрын

    I would have to one up it. I dont wanna get killed by no religious people.

  • @kyomademon453

    @kyomademon453

    5 жыл бұрын

    A modern crusade would be just guns, that aint gonna save u

  • @arakasi1033
    @arakasi10335 жыл бұрын

    That is... kind of weird BDSM... still very interesting video! :D

  • @brancaleone8895

    @brancaleone8895

    5 жыл бұрын

    canadians are strange people

  • @HiopX
    @HiopX5 жыл бұрын

    this must be the first post-apocalyptic setting I ever heard from, that actually takes place after the apocalypse.

  • @johndododoe1411

    @johndododoe1411

    2 жыл бұрын

    In the apocalypse, God Wins. Apocalypse is an Epiphany of a glorious future.

  • @crimsonfists6224
    @crimsonfists62245 жыл бұрын

    Skall, and everyone who reads, i have to say. For what it delivers, this armor is EXTREMELY overpriced. Yes, this is quite decent stainless steel, it is decently made, and the fabric base is made quite well. There are quite a few flaws with it. First, it had limited protection from the side, and the collar bone is EXTREMELY exposed. Secondly, the fitting is lackluster to say the least. It has literally no taper at the waist, which is necessary for ease of movement. Third, it is very short. It protects very poorly against strikes that are lower than the belly button. Fourth, there is no fitting for the back. The armor can be worn from both sides, whereas historically accurate(and proper sporting stylizations) are supposed to be worn one way only with reinforced plates on the back. Lastly, as I mentioned before, COST. Right now it costs 1500$. HOLY WATERMELONS IS THAT A LOT FOR A SUIT OF ARMOR THAT ONLY PROTECTS THE TORSO AND IS NOT REALLY COMFORTABLE. You will not feel it while standing or walking, but as soon as you spar, come problems. You feel like you are in a barely mobile iron box. The restrictions are deadly, proper brigandine armor should not restrict movement at all or barely. If you want to buy something really good in terms of sporting quality-Steel Shop is a VERY good option. A Wimbledon-style brigandine costs 150-240$, has precise fit, excellent taper, FUCKAWESOME steel and does not restrict movement at all. It is located in Russia, so you may have to pay a lot extra to have it delivered to Europe, but is is worth your money. If you want historical accuracy, it is up to you, as all shops have different good and bad sides. Steel Shop's is that they use synthetic fabric as inner base for their armor. Upper layer is wool however, so it is not noticeable. I may give you a link to their shop if you want to

  • @1337CaptainHadock
    @1337CaptainHadock5 жыл бұрын

    Skall who hit you on the head?? You got a yellow spot on your left side of the forehead D:

  • @LurkerDaBerzerker

    @LurkerDaBerzerker

    5 жыл бұрын

    1337CaptainHadock Apparently he was assaulted by exercise equipment.

  • @GorkiCiprian74

    @GorkiCiprian74

    5 жыл бұрын

    1337CaptainHadock ohhh you see it too, maybe Kara swing and miss... LoL

  • @TuAFFalcon

    @TuAFFalcon

    5 жыл бұрын

    Does he live in the US? He has the right to shoot everybody in the vicinity if so.

  • @Riceball01

    @Riceball01

    5 жыл бұрын

    TuAFFalcon Nope, he lives in Canada.

  • @kevinhan233

    @kevinhan233

    5 жыл бұрын

    he was ended rightly

  • @lalystar4230
    @lalystar42305 жыл бұрын

    'It's pretty easy to put on, just slip it over your head' and then has a battle putting it on xD hahaha

  • @franciscomaia3299

    @franciscomaia3299

    5 жыл бұрын

    He may had said that comparing to other armor that is :P

  • @davidclarke9663

    @davidclarke9663

    5 жыл бұрын

    I don't know if it would be the same, but for a mail shirt, I put it on the ground, slip my arms in and raise it over my head. Gravity does the rest.

  • @Skallagrim

    @Skallagrim

    5 жыл бұрын

    Maybe don't compare armor to sweatshirts? :)

  • @BoojumFed

    @BoojumFed

    5 жыл бұрын

    How can you not compare them when they say "Under Armour" on them? ;^)

  • @ciarfah

    @ciarfah

    5 жыл бұрын

    BoojumFed boooo

  • @barnabyjones3708
    @barnabyjones37085 жыл бұрын

    3:14 "And then we get wenches" can we have that on a T-shirt?

  • @Whiskey_and_Steel

    @Whiskey_and_Steel

    5 жыл бұрын

    First immortality, then the wenches

  • @CazadorSlayer
    @CazadorSlayer5 жыл бұрын

    Oooh! It was really cool getting to see the innards of it and how it holds up to getting smacked! In the whole 2 games that ever utilize Brigandines, they are always represented as light, cloth-like armor. You never really get to see or hear the plates and how hefty it really is underneath the cloth padding, ye know? (Speaking of which, I agree with the other comments; The sound of steel plates moving is immensely satisfying!)

  • @Xephisto
    @Xephisto5 жыл бұрын

    I always loved the look of the brigandine.

  • @Algoth_Igneous
    @Algoth_Igneous5 жыл бұрын

    3:53 "That's too light" (After recording) *BABE, CALL THE HOSPITAL!*

  • @theblackbaron4119
    @theblackbaron41195 жыл бұрын

    The villagers are being raised by demons. I mark that settlements location on your map. Edit:RAIDED autocorrect can suck my cucumber.

  • @JustGrowingUp84

    @JustGrowingUp84

    5 жыл бұрын

    "Raided", perhaps "razed" though usually that applies to buildings and such, not people. Villagers "raised" by demons is hilarious though: Child - "Daddy, when can we have dinner?" Demon - "Only 20 more minutes of torturing this man and then we'll take a break. If you're a good little girl we'll cook his liver and eat it with some fava beans and a nice Chianti!" Child - "Yaaay!" *starts torturing harder*

  • @dahken417

    @dahken417

    5 жыл бұрын

    Shut up, Preston! You know what? Be my companion, that way the demons will leave as soon as we arrive out of fear of your incessant nagging!

  • @rhett5058

    @rhett5058

    3 жыл бұрын

    How kind of them to help bring up the children they orphaned

  • @michaeldrinkard678
    @michaeldrinkard678 Жыл бұрын

    Very good video. I like the brigandine, and may have to acquire one. I already have a lorica segmentata, which seems to provide equivalent protection, and practically identical weight. The shoulder/collarbone protection seems a little better for the lorica, and bending at the waist pushes the lower segments up, but then gravity brings it back down immediately. Throwing a pilum or javelin requires you to throw almost sidearm, due to the overlapping plates on the shoulder. I don't know if you've done a video with the lorica segmentata, but I think it would be an interesting one. Thanks for making educational and very entertaining videos!

  • @Grimizu123
    @Grimizu1235 жыл бұрын

    I really really appreciate every armor reviews you cover up now that I can see the inside that usually can't be seen. I knew I can just searched up on google if I wanted to see the inside but they are all images! With this format being 3d and moving while you explained it I can better understand them. So ya, thanks again.

  • @michaelwills1926
    @michaelwills19265 жыл бұрын

    Great review; the sound of the plates rolling is way satisfying.

  • @corwinhyatt519
    @corwinhyatt5195 жыл бұрын

    Anyone else find themselves waiting for the "Ow" right after he mentions that the armor likes to eat hair and proceeds to put it on over his tail.

  • @darekbaird

    @darekbaird

    5 жыл бұрын

    I was expecting it but it never came.

  • @corwinhyatt519

    @corwinhyatt519

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yah, schadenfreude foiled..... :)

  • @ostmen_draugr

    @ostmen_draugr

    5 жыл бұрын

    His tail is one thing, it might break off strands before actually pulling hard enough to hurt. His beard on the other hand, those hairs are as strong as copper, they hurt like hell when yanked out. I get it alot from my viking beard in metal or plastic armor (stupid mandalorian armor)

  • @aliteralflamingpileofgarba6236
    @aliteralflamingpileofgarba62364 жыл бұрын

    What skall wanted to say “You help me get in my armor, I’ll help you out of yours.”

  • @cnppreactorno.4965
    @cnppreactorno.49655 жыл бұрын

    I've always wanted you to review a brigandine

  • @Ace2655
    @Ace26555 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed this armor review. Hopefully more come!

  • @xzenitramx666
    @xzenitramx6665 жыл бұрын

    Shes so afraid if hurt skall owww

  • @kamatong
    @kamatong5 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if they ever made any hybrid Brigandine and plate styles, where the sternum area and chest have a thicker larger plate with the small plates all around it.

  • @elgostine

    @elgostine

    5 жыл бұрын

    yes we do gimme a moment and ill find the examples

  • @TeutonicEmperor1198

    @TeutonicEmperor1198

    5 жыл бұрын

    there are! The expensive brigandines even had lance rests at the right big plate!

  • @theshuttingdowns

    @theshuttingdowns

    5 жыл бұрын

    Look up the Bamberg Cathedral carving.

  • @Riceball01

    @Riceball01

    5 жыл бұрын

    I believe they did. I've seen examples, here and there, of what I think are early sets of plate armor and their cuirasses are made from multiple steel plates. By that I mean, instead of a single piece of steel for either the main part of the breast and back plate, each half is made of at least 3 or 4 pieces of steel overlapping vertically.

  • @kamatong

    @kamatong

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you all for the replies! I did some more searching and have found a few images that look to be historical pieces or in the very least reproductions of a historical design with larger plates in the chest and sternum area both multiple and singular plate variants.

  • @crusaderzero3984
    @crusaderzero39845 жыл бұрын

    I'm very excited that you eventually get & test the most common but also misunderstanded armor in Middle Age. I comprehend that it is a quite expensive gear, however, I do really hope u can test it with windlass crossbow similar as your previous test on lamellar & Solid plate armor.

  • @KageNoTora74
    @KageNoTora745 жыл бұрын

    Brigandine can be used in combination with spaulders to protect the shoulders, vambraces to protect the forearms, gauntlets, gorget to protect the neck and a helm for the head. Include greaves and you have armor for a foot soldier or man-at-arms.

  • @Azumazini
    @Azumazini5 жыл бұрын

    Hopefully Armstreet will take into consideration your review and issues with the forward motion of your shoulder pivot being unable to effectively use your arms at a 90 degree angle directly in front of you. I also agree with the use of straps. I have a feeling they went with lacing to cut down their own costs. If they fix the arm rotation issue with later versions it would definitely improve the use of that model.

  • @zabadyboopywhatawoopy5192

    @zabadyboopywhatawoopy5192

    5 жыл бұрын

    Azumazi cut the fabric underneath the armpits should work fine or make a weave rather than a piece of full gambason.

  • @Azumazini

    @Azumazini

    5 жыл бұрын

    Based on the plates location near the armpit from the website, you would have to trim those plates as well. Depending if it's 1050 Spring Steel or 1010-1018 Mild Steel can make that difficult. It's most likely 18 gauge sheet though from how it dented from that mace impact.

  • @johnfrancisdoe1563

    @johnfrancisdoe1563

    5 жыл бұрын

    Azumazi They just need to make it smaller overall: Narrower chest to allow arm movement, narrower waist to make body motion easier, shorter or narrower front skirt to not get folded awkwardly when moving legs or riding. It's basically one size too big (or it gets right size once washed!).

  • @Azumazini

    @Azumazini

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, you're pretty much right, They really just need to take point on either a standard Cuirass frontal, or do like what the Milanese did with some of their Brigandine's and have a section of over lapping plates at that go around the outer edge that bend outward so you can move your arms forward but they offer a bit more protection around the frontal shoulder.

  • @Alex-tn7pv
    @Alex-tn7pv5 жыл бұрын

    Jesus mate, even I was worried by watching this. Talk about commitment to the nerd cause. Great vid!

  • @johndododoe1411

    @johndododoe1411

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nah, I have read a reporter doing the same with a bullet proof business suit.

  • @morallyambiguousnet
    @morallyambiguousnet5 жыл бұрын

    I have the same gambeson that you're wearing in this video. Very pleased with the quality of work and currently working on a welded stainless steel shirt to go over it.

  • @manowode6286
    @manowode62863 жыл бұрын

    You two are great together...so funny! Love the shows man.

  • @mrmoth26
    @mrmoth265 жыл бұрын

    "This takes place in a post-adpocaliptic world"

  • @TriaMaxwell
    @TriaMaxwell5 жыл бұрын

    "And after we get wenches" "I can live with that" And now we know how Skal and Cara keep it interesting. Also, ouch, Skal's got a nasty bump on his head, did Cara miss?

  • @OasisTypeZaku
    @OasisTypeZaku5 ай бұрын

    It's a good-looking piece of kit, and it's in my favorite color! I'm definitely going to have to take a look at this!

  • @salty_armorer4027
    @salty_armorer40275 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this O Bearded One, following the link to this armor has allowed me to finally find someone that carries costume pants in my size.

  • @LurkerDaBerzerker
    @LurkerDaBerzerker5 жыл бұрын

    Do you think you could review the Elmslie Typology? Edit: Autocorrect is absolutely evil.

  • @jinxhead4182
    @jinxhead41825 жыл бұрын

    Dude, for that price what the brigandine alone costs you get almost a full plate suit (brigandine chest, not plate chest) from Buhurt Tech. That's grossly overpriced and historically way off for that money.

  • @planescaped

    @planescaped

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not to mention the shoulder lacing is a horrible, horrible idea.

  • @jinxhead4182

    @jinxhead4182

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yup, also for that price I very much expect a piece of armour to be spotless, which means strong leather straps, no loss of agility (like this one) and historical accuracy. Skal kinda dropped the ball on this one as it would be a joke of an armour for half that price, let alone for this amount.

  • @tiggytheimpaler5483
    @tiggytheimpaler54835 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad I found this, I'm about to embark on a bespoke copy of the leeds brigandine.

  • @navigatorofnone
    @navigatorofnone5 жыл бұрын

    Great combo 😎 plus the chain mail and you are practically a tank in the battlefield 👍👍

  • @rexmcstiller4675
    @rexmcstiller46755 жыл бұрын

    Studded armor. Finally :D

  • @wynydis

    @wynydis

    5 жыл бұрын

    This is not studded armor, rather lamellar stuff ;)

  • @siosilvar

    @siosilvar

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lamellar is scales without backing. This is brigandine, with metal scales riveted to a coat. (and to round it out, scale armor is usually considered to be scales over a backing) Studded armor is gygax & co. misinterpreting the rivets on brigandine as somehow actually improving the leather's ability to deflect an attack, not as attachment points. So calling a brigandine "studded armor" is a joke. Now that I've officially killed the joke, I hope it was actually informative to do so.

  • @nobsherc

    @nobsherc

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm willing to bet he's kidding

  • @propanedaddy5577

    @propanedaddy5577

    5 жыл бұрын

    Something tells me your witty sarcasm is going to trigger a lot of autism. Prepare your butthole Mister Stiller.

  • @PivotCyroy

    @PivotCyroy

    5 жыл бұрын

    r/wooosh

  • @flowingsyrupproductions8874
    @flowingsyrupproductions88745 жыл бұрын

    Omg it costs 1000$

  • @xirensixseo

    @xirensixseo

    5 жыл бұрын

    cheaper than maille/mail

  • @MFenix206

    @MFenix206

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@xirensixseo i got a riveted shirt from kult of athena for 220... maybe that brand's mail is more expensive but...

  • @xirensixseo

    @xirensixseo

    5 жыл бұрын

    well i mean thats just a mail shirt, mail armor is more than that

  • @MFenix206

    @MFenix206

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@xirensixseo yeah? and this brigandine covers less area than a mail shirt at 5x the cost so... (a mail shirt is mail armor, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you meant full body coverage) if you are gonna go with the logic of full body coverage you will still need all the mail that this shirt doesn't cover (either custom sleeves or an actual shirt to cover the arms, legs and a coif for the head)

  • @MFenix206

    @MFenix206

    5 жыл бұрын

    just checked Kult of athena, the price has gone up to 350+, i did double check my receipts though and i did get it for the mid 200s. glad i wasted my money then and not now....

  • @ketheriel2177
    @ketheriel21774 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for You videos. It's very useful for knowledge.

  • @stevec.8904
    @stevec.89045 жыл бұрын

    Gets hot under my Kevlar daily. Sweating buckets this summer!

  • @JasonMBroyles
    @JasonMBroyles5 жыл бұрын

    I don't think I trust anyone as much as Skall trusts that brigandine.

  • @steevemartial4084
    @steevemartial40845 жыл бұрын

    The shaping is terrible. There's no trifoil pattern on the rivets (depending on the date it might not be a problem). You mentionned the laces instead of straps, the plates don't overlap on the sides and shoulders because of that. The only good thing is that the plates seem to overlap under the fabric. This brigandine is low quality for almost the price of a custom made, hand forged breastplate. It's almost a scam at this point.

  • @bloodypine22

    @bloodypine22

    5 жыл бұрын

    Custom-made breastplates actually cost less than this shite.

  • @bloodypine22

    @bloodypine22

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Krok Krok "Almost a scam", and yes it is horribly overpriced for what it is.

  • @halfdangrafeldt7239

    @halfdangrafeldt7239

    5 жыл бұрын

    Would definitely call it a scam, plenty of great polish, Russian and Ukrainian smiths who'd give you a damn masterpiece for that crazy price

  • @mrmoth26

    @mrmoth26

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@halfdangrafeldt7239 I am Polish.

  • @halfdangrafeldt7239

    @halfdangrafeldt7239

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@mrmoth26 Congrats?

  • @gadyariv2456
    @gadyariv24565 жыл бұрын

    5:37 in some pieces of art, I remember seeing soldiers with Bevor and helmet as the only full plate component of their armor, and the rest of the body probably protected by a Brigandine and a gambeson. that would overcome this issue.

  • @eroktartonga4032
    @eroktartonga40325 жыл бұрын

    Nice presentation.Thank you.

  • @chungawumba2637
    @chungawumba26373 жыл бұрын

    Shad showed us that in paintings a lot of Nobility were shown wearing combinations of brigandine and plate armors.

  • @davidharasymowicz8707
    @davidharasymowicz87075 жыл бұрын

    I'd actually rather wear this than full plate

  • @haroldbalzac6336

    @haroldbalzac6336

    5 жыл бұрын

    David Hanselvunth why?

  • @ninjahombrepalito1721

    @ninjahombrepalito1721

    5 жыл бұрын

    I also want to know why.

  • @snakeoveer1046

    @snakeoveer1046

    5 жыл бұрын

    What about the rest of your body?

  • @elgostine

    @elgostine

    5 жыл бұрын

    it is more flexible and comfortable but its not nearly as good eagainst stuff like lances pollaxes crossbows firearms breastplates generally have more protection for a given level of quality because of their rigid shape, it also makes you less abl;e to be hurt by high impact weapons, less trauma under the armour

  • @ninjahombrepalito1721

    @ninjahombrepalito1721

    5 жыл бұрын

    elgostine plate armor can be deceitfully flexible and mobile.

  • @primalwolfe4711
    @primalwolfe47114 жыл бұрын

    I just love the clicking sound. The armor looks really good. If only I had the money for it.

  • @spearhunked1369
    @spearhunked13695 жыл бұрын

    Adding some additional shoulder protection would make this piece absolutely amazing.

  • @PinkBroBlueRope
    @PinkBroBlueRope5 жыл бұрын

    From the thumbnail I thought this was another video with lindybeige

  • @mauriciokenway9922
    @mauriciokenway99225 жыл бұрын

    For that price i expect that to be battle ready.

  • @sgt_kissekatt6686
    @sgt_kissekatt66865 жыл бұрын

    I have a personal love for Brigandine, they generally just look amazing, and as you say, cheaper to make and not as precise in size, but still offers good protection.

  • @jaobyeden4143
    @jaobyeden41435 жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed the prologue of the book. Looking forward to reading more of it I've got 25 minutes of a sample left

  • @psychosorcerer9438
    @psychosorcerer94385 жыл бұрын

    1300... I could buy a cuirass for that much.

  • @Beardshire

    @Beardshire

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, the Cuirass from age of craft is the same price.

  • @Galda95
    @Galda955 жыл бұрын

    Don't know about the quality of the manifacturing but it's not historically accurate for both shape and lacing. It depends on what century you are looking at, but in the XV century (as the survivals you show) brigandines had roughly the same shame of plate harness. For that price Age of Craft ones look more historical accurate. And btw it was used by common soldiers but olso men at arms

  • @Beardshire

    @Beardshire

    5 жыл бұрын

    I've seen a few historical barrel chested ones. but it had a better overall shape that Skall already pointed out wrong with this one. The top of the shoulders looks so uncomfortable.

  • @gvn.yojong
    @gvn.yojong5 жыл бұрын

    It's similar to the Korean armor layered with animal hide, leather, silk and iron scales underneath for more protection. Also, it's very mobile and easy to wear from what I heard. Very interesting Skall.

  • @Malusdarkblades11
    @Malusdarkblades115 жыл бұрын

    one of your better videos good job :)

  • @astropolski
    @astropolski5 жыл бұрын

    ey im early + how dja manage that bruise on ya head skall??

  • @maxgrebe3199

    @maxgrebe3199

    5 жыл бұрын

    Astro Polski Same

  • @chaotic_enby2625

    @chaotic_enby2625

    5 жыл бұрын

    He hit his head on an exercise machine in the gym, he said that on his latest live stream

  • @mrmoth26

    @mrmoth26

    5 жыл бұрын

    Jesteś z Polski?

  • @aubreyackermann8432
    @aubreyackermann84324 жыл бұрын

    The lacing on the side is much more adjustable for different body sizes and shapes, so historical garments for women often laced that way to allow it to still fit during pregnancy. If mass producing armor, side lacing could make the same piece fit more customers.

  • @DVS-rb9wn
    @DVS-rb9wn5 жыл бұрын

    i love to see you two together

  • @thelonerider5644
    @thelonerider56445 жыл бұрын

    omg when she picked up the axe all I could think of was, if she misses and hits your arm it's not gonna be fun. Glad your brigandine worked!

  • @mikegrossberg8624

    @mikegrossberg8624

    4 жыл бұрын

    I don't think the ax had much of an edge on it. If it HAD, the cloth over the plates would have shown some result of it, i.e. tears or small slices. What's referred to as "battle damage"

  • @thelonerider5644

    @thelonerider5644

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mikegrossberg8624 Good point (pun intended). I should have noticed there was no cut in the surface.

  • @ninjahombrepalito1721
    @ninjahombrepalito17215 жыл бұрын

    Adrenaline, I don't think is enough to keep a muscle from getting stunned. Or a person fighting without being able to breathe.

  • @darkwraithraziel6362

    @darkwraithraziel6362

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ninja Hombrepalito you could power through a stun or being knocked out of breath for at least a follow through on an attack or a back step/dodge

  • @ootdega

    @ootdega

    5 жыл бұрын

    Adrenaline can let you ignore pretty much anything in large enough quantities.

  • @VulpeRenard

    @VulpeRenard

    5 жыл бұрын

    It really depends on what kind of hit you take and how precise it is. I've had matches where I got kicked squarely in the balls, *knew* it was going to hurt, but went on for another two minutes without issue only to crumple as I was walking off the mat after shaking the opponent's hand. On the other hand, I've had sparring sessions where I took a good liver shot and no matter how amped up I was, I couldn't keep from doubling over. Adrenaline _definitely_ increases your ability to shrug off blows that would have been debilitating if you were just standing next to your friend at a party and he decided to jab you in the ribs.

  • @Cin9999

    @Cin9999

    5 жыл бұрын

    bro you have no idea people run 3 blocks after being shot several times because of adrenaline ...in shock sometimes you dont feel anything there are soldiers that went back after battle and didnt know that they missed a big chunk of head

  • @bosknight7837

    @bosknight7837

    5 жыл бұрын

    Cin that’s more shock than adrenaline. Victims of car crashes also walk around sometimes,even if they are badly hurt

  • @Jonny2myren
    @Jonny2myren5 жыл бұрын

    Good stuff

  • @nothere1734

    @nothere1734

    5 жыл бұрын

    ffuts dooG

  • @TheLawDawg
    @TheLawDawg5 жыл бұрын

    You two have an extraordinarily trusting relationship.

  • @YetiMama
    @YetiMama Жыл бұрын

    Love the content man.

  • @bernardo0330
    @bernardo03305 жыл бұрын

    Skall, with all these armours, that seem to be so effective against swords, why did people bother wearing them in battle? Can a swordsman pose any threat? Is there a consistent way of defeating armour with a sword?

  • @ellisbarnett0292

    @ellisbarnett0292

    5 жыл бұрын

    Le Chevalier Errant that’s why most people didn’t bring swords into battle. Most carried axes, maces, or even just bludgeons and flails

  • @bernardo0330

    @bernardo0330

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, thats what I thought, but in works of art, knights are often depicted with their swords. I guess it could be artistic exaggeration, since swords are more befitting of a noble than a other weapons...

  • @greencreekranch

    @greencreekranch

    5 жыл бұрын

    You can in theory stab through these... But that would still not be easy

  • @TheLiamis

    @TheLiamis

    5 жыл бұрын

    Swords are just side arms main arms are pole arms, bows, mace etc. Just as Modern military don't use their pistol as a main weapon.

  • @bernardo0330

    @bernardo0330

    5 жыл бұрын

    I imagine you should look for gaps in the armour, and mainly thrust. That`s what I hear everyone say, but the reason why I asked the question in the first place is because it seems to be so difficult to do that in the heat of battle.

  • @Eathus
    @Eathus5 жыл бұрын

    My understanding of brigandines is that a lot of them were front closed so a common man could put it on with little help.

  • @nh7471

    @nh7471

    5 жыл бұрын

    Katabolic that’s how mine is at least.

  • @pf5846
    @pf58465 жыл бұрын

    Kingdom come deliverance has taught me a lot about armor! Especially brigandine!

  • @shadekeigarblacksky
    @shadekeigarblacksky3 жыл бұрын

    The steel's color never cease to leave me in awe.

  • @Mtonazzi
    @Mtonazzi5 жыл бұрын

    The fact that it doesn't tapers on the natural waist makes it look cheat and crappy. And aye, most of it's issues come from the lack of it. And, I'm thicker than Skall and I can still fir a waisted armour piece, almost anyone can, we don't tend to accumulate fat in that line unless one's really obese.

  • @ElliWoelfin
    @ElliWoelfin5 жыл бұрын

    Wonder when Skall will be able to get a full suit of plate...

  • @isaccarce6548

    @isaccarce6548

    5 жыл бұрын

    VSKKG he scrapped the idea a while ago

  • @ElliWoelfin

    @ElliWoelfin

    5 жыл бұрын

    Just meaning in the far future, since I know how expensive they are.

  • @ninjahombrepalito1721

    @ninjahombrepalito1721

    5 жыл бұрын

    He used to have the arms and legs parts. Not sure if he still does.

  • @ElliWoelfin

    @ElliWoelfin

    5 жыл бұрын

    I know, I remember when he got the grieves. It is definitely not something any time soon, either way. He would want to get a full set instead of just multiple parts from various manufacturers.

  • @paytonanthony1308

    @paytonanthony1308

    5 жыл бұрын

    We should make a fundraiser

  • @charleslawrence9150
    @charleslawrence91503 жыл бұрын

    If you put on a belt and cinch it tight it takes pressure off of the shoulders and may allow more efficient arm movement. It may also help with the turn up / roll-up on the bottom. The belt will also give you a touch of the classic wasp-waist look.

  • @TTCello
    @TTCello5 жыл бұрын

    "It's really easy to put it on" *Struggles for a good while, rattling away like mad, finally having the brigandine face the right way*

  • @Taistelukalkkuna
    @Taistelukalkkuna5 жыл бұрын

    What is its AC and DEX penalty?

  • @siosilvar

    @siosilvar

    5 жыл бұрын

    Probably equivalent to any other breastplate or even "banded mail" when worn with arm and leg protection. Or you could go the other route and say, studded leather exists because Gygax & co saw a brigandine and didn't know what it was, so it's studded leather.

  • @Slayerlord13

    @Slayerlord13

    5 жыл бұрын

    But unlike studded leather, a brigandine also has a bunch of plates. So it should be higher AC than studded leather in my opinion.

  • @siosilvar

    @siosilvar

    5 жыл бұрын

    Studded leather doesn't exist. Gygax saw a brigandine, didn't realize there were plates inside, and came up with studded armor as an explanation for what he saw. It's entirely fictional.

  • @Slayerlord13

    @Slayerlord13

    5 жыл бұрын

    I. Know.

  • @siosilvar

    @siosilvar

    5 жыл бұрын

    Then why comment, when my first sentence already covered how effective a real brigandine would be in D&D and shows that I know the difference too?

  • @flowingsyrupproductions8874
    @flowingsyrupproductions88745 жыл бұрын

    Im just a foot soldier i cant afford this kind of armor

  • @bloodypine22

    @bloodypine22

    5 жыл бұрын

    Even a XVth century footman could afford this.

  • @bloodypine22

    @bloodypine22

    5 жыл бұрын

    Armstreet is too fucking overpriced

  • @flowingsyrupproductions8874

    @flowingsyrupproductions8874

    5 жыл бұрын

    I know i have a gambeson Mail coif and helmet my weapon is spear

  • @flowingsyrupproductions8874

    @flowingsyrupproductions8874

    5 жыл бұрын

    The imperial Inquisition i know

  • @flowingsyrupproductions8874

    @flowingsyrupproductions8874

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dank Bullet i have one

  • @sdr24
    @sdr243 жыл бұрын

    I have to say that I like the look of the brigandine Shadiversity featured recently (the red one). It looks like a better made piece than this. Easier to put on and better range of motion. But thanks for reviewing this one. I really like this kind of armor and it would probably be my personal choice for reenactment.

  • @spaspants
    @spaspants4 жыл бұрын

    Lol I liked the bloopers at the end haha

  • @ellisbarnett0292
    @ellisbarnett02925 жыл бұрын

    Woah skall, you let your SO beat you? Damn that’s kinky...

  • @anotherranger2924

    @anotherranger2924

    5 жыл бұрын

    ReDaCtEd UnHiNgEd SO?

  • @kagenekoUA

    @kagenekoUA

    5 жыл бұрын

    another ranger, "significant other", I guess.

  • @sealninjax431
    @sealninjax4315 жыл бұрын

    When you're early but you can't come up with a funny comment

  • @ColonelSandersLite

    @ColonelSandersLite

    5 жыл бұрын

    Maybe you came too early?

  • @sealninjax431

    @sealninjax431

    5 жыл бұрын

    How inappropriate

  • @loonyladle3987

    @loonyladle3987

    5 жыл бұрын

    If you have nothing to say, don't say anything. 🌈

  • @sealninjax431

    @sealninjax431

    5 жыл бұрын

    LoonyLadle Fair enough

  • @GrasshopperKelly
    @GrasshopperKelly5 жыл бұрын

    3:34 That childishly gleeful face xD "Tis but a scratch!"

  • @geoffreyfish2084
    @geoffreyfish20845 жыл бұрын

    Great video - really enjoying your content lately. Just a question, where'd you get that bruise on your forhead? Or is that just a trick of the camera?

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