I was depressed for several days when I found out I had nothing to do with my salvation. But thank the Lord I didn't. What a mess I would have made of it if I had. God steers us along the path he wants us to walk to fulfill his plan or purpose in the scheme of things here in this world. Glory be to God..

@flybunny58

Жыл бұрын

95 percent of my family are Pentecostal the pastor is my cousin so to get them to understand is really difficult they spend all their time raising millions to spread the gospel but no one knows were the money go's nobody's paid no bibles bought no missionary sent their worst then most cult groups and they do it because their works are the results of their faith, and because the church targets the poor there trapped until they get worn out that they abandon the faith they thought they once had, to try picking up the pieces is difficult because there afraid of failing again. sadddd

@patriot4780

Жыл бұрын

Tim Gilbert the reality is that we are as helpless as the criminal on the cross to do anything to earn our salvation. As someone who was raised Roman Catholic, the thought that I can contribute nothing to my salvation was offensive to me. It WAS offensive to me, but in hindsight, it’s a load off to know that I’m justified by faith. Has it changed the way I live? I’m a work in progress, but by the grace of God, and the leading from the Holy Spirit, I’m not the way I used to be. I would love to get a hold of the younger me and tell him a few things, because I was ignorant and self-centered.

@joseph880

Жыл бұрын

AMEN

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

Amen

@timothyhodges705

Жыл бұрын

@@patriot4780 the reason for feeling helpless, is when we first heard the gospel, the Holy Spirit convicted us of our guilt. The answer to the forgiveness is believing that Jesus Christ is the Son of God (Romans 3:24-26; John 3:16-18, Romans 10:9-17). The tension that comes from Calvinism is dispersed from the confused theology from the likes of John Macarthur, Steven Lawson, and Voddie Baucham's teachings. 1Corinthians 14:33 "For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints." Here in this passage, Paul explains the arguments of who should be teaching, like women. Today we argue over what is true: Calvinism. Reformed theology. Think about that... "Reformed." Did the words of the Bible need reforming? No. We do. Thus came Jesus Christ. It's a 33 year old story written in the four synoptic Gospels. Calvin's dogma came from way beyond the writers of the Bible. His institutes for Christian Living bear no accurate citations from the Bible. Historical accounts say he was a dispotical lawyer who demanded obedience to his "decrees, or face jail time or worse, like being burned at the stake.

This truth is undeniable throughout Scripture. Pride crushing. God honouring. Eternal gratitude and glorification of God will ring throughout the ages.

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Hallelujah Nasi , God has opened your eyes to see His truth , for as the scripture says , Many are called but few are chosen ! .

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Yes ! and Absolutely so ,and indeed Sad to say , fallen nature tries to take the glory that belongs to God and Him Alone , very well put Nasi ! Cheers and God Bless !

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Hallelujah !.

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Amen and Hallelujah !.

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

amen

Studying through Romans for my men’s group I was leading recently, when I got to realizing what is in Romans 9 this doctrine of election came alive to me and like John has said before when you come to a knowledge of this, the lights go on and you realize this is revealed all throughout scripture.

@markwills3602

4 жыл бұрын

No it is not! Why does any one listen to Calvin, he was a despicable person murdered at least 41 people. NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE do you find the statement We are predestined to Salvation - not there. Romans 1 also says "They KNEW God but did not honor him as God, so God gave them over to their ungodly desires." Then Paul says when they die and go to Hell "They have no excuse!" If God chooses who will be saved - They would have an excuse. So we have disproved Irresistable grace and God decides who goes to heaven all in one. And through in the fact there is also free will, "Although they knew the truth they decided - THEY DECIDED - not to follow. But wordhipped the creation and not the Creator!! Original Sin - Total agreement - but only because Romans 5-6-7 teach it!!! In fact Calvin's point of view can be disproven not just in Romans 1 - but also in John 3:16 and verse 18 as well. Why, If someone does not beleive Jesus says they are condemned already - so even Jesus teaches that free will is present in OUR CHOICES!!! God's Choice is everyone will get saved!!

@prestonbrowning264

4 жыл бұрын

Mark Wills So Calvin is wrong because you don’t like him? That is also bad history to say he murdered 41 people. And the way you used Romans 1 was incorrect. I appreciate you being opinionated, but that is bad interpretation. Any Calvinist believes that whosoever will may come. If they will to come then they have been regenerated to life. It is really simple. Nobody comes unless it is granted by the Father is John 6. I don’t think it’s helpful to debate through comments, but I’ll examine your opinions and you examine mine. Grace and peace!

@markwills3602

4 жыл бұрын

​@@prestonbrowning264 I always ask this of calvinists, Where does the bible say that we are predestined to Salvation? We are predestined to Holiness, to adoption as sons, to being blameless. There are a lot of things we are predestined to, but not salvation, that is free will. Our choice determines where we go, and Paul is very clear in Romans 1 - Though they KNEW him as God they did not honor him as GOD. They are with out excuse! History tells us about Calvin, and no I do not like any one who distorts the Word of God. When you distort Gods word you distort God, that is unacceptable. Calvin was responsible for people who did not see the bible the way he did burned at the stake. That is undeniable history, and even in England calvinists apologized for the death of Michael Servetus. This has been reported for over a hundreds years! Bad theology always ends in bad results and this poor guy was burned at the stake and Calvin insisted they used Servetus' own books to burn!! So I can understand why you would not want to debate me, and I am not angry. I come across as angry, but I am not, I am just explaining what the leader of a false doctrine did. You expect the leader of a distortion of Holy God to have some skeletons in his closet, and Calvin does. According to historical records Calvin was responsible for 58 executions. What did these people do - commit murder? No they disagreed with Calvin they were doomed. He had written to a friend that if Servetus ever came to Geneva, “I will never let him depart alive, if I have any authority.” - William R. Estep, “Renaissance and Reformation”; pages 221-248. Well he had authority and Servetus was dead! When you take the whole book of Romans it is easy to see that God does not predetermine the choice of a man. He put that choice out in front of them, and they decide. Then there is Hebrews, also a book that teaches the Holy Spirit Draws man to God- Jesus. And they even partially partake of God's goodness, but after a while, and after knowing God for who he is, they reject the Holy Spirit and the Knowledge he gave. This causes them to trample on the Blood of Christ - and they are are not saved because they NEVER accepted Christ when they had the free will to do so. Hebrews 6:1-8. God is who he is, and he draws all men to him. No one can come to the Father unless they are drawn. No one can save themselves, salvation only comes form God. God so loves everyone that he does not desire ANY to perish. But if someone perishes it is not God's determination, it is man who decides he can be God on his own. Put out your false doctrine if you like, but you will find there is only one God and he is Father God - Jesus Christ - and The Holy Spirit!! He provided EVERY PERSON THAT HAS EVER LIVED THE ABILITY TO BE MADE RIGHT WITH GOD. John 3:18-19 is very clear "He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil." Case closed!

@prestonbrowning264

4 жыл бұрын

@@markwills3602 Obviously you have your mind made up. Just be convinced in your own mind. I get it, I used to make the same arguments you are making now. Which is why I am not going to push any points, but I am going to tell you why I believe what I believe. What appeals to me about reformed theology is that we don't attempt to solve apparent issue of God's sovereignty and human responsibility with a concept of human autonomy that I do not find in the bible. We live in the tension because that is what the bible seems to do. However, I would hope we could both agree that neither of us is totally right. Each of us have flaws in our theology. Sure, I think I am right and you think you are. Where we agree are the essentials. We agree that God alone saves. That Christ is the only way. That God is Triune. That Christ's sacrifice is the only payment for sins. And I could go on. My father who I respect as a bible teacher more than any, is an Arminian, and we can enjoy fellowship together. I apologize if I sounded harsh in my comment earlier. I try to approach this topic with love because it gets so heated. I agree with Spurgeon that the old Arminian standard is the same as we believe, apart from the operation of the Holy Spirit, no man is saved.

@markwills3602

4 жыл бұрын

@@prestonbrowning264 I cannot agree with any flaws - all of what I said is scripture. Scripture is Flawless. Condemnation comes from unbelief - That is what Jesus said, is that flawed? Never. Paul said "They KNEW him as God, and they did not Honor him as God." Paul said it - it is scripture, and it is flawless! I do not think I am right - I KNOW scripture is right there is no doubt about that. Jesus said - And the judgment is based on this fact: God’s light came into the world, but people loved the darkness more than the light, for their actions were evil. - This choice they made is not flawed it is fact. Nothing God says is flawed. God NEVER Said you are predetermined to be saved - it is not in the bible. If that was in the Bible you would have said so. The fact that you cannot find that scripture "is what it is." History does not change - Calvin was a Mass Murderer. How does a mass murder construct any doctrine at all - especially with a depraved mind. Irresistible Grace does not exist, that is just a fact. They traded the truth about God for a lie. - that is a fact. For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God. - It is a fact that lost people see God and his invisible qualities - his power and his divine nature. They have no excuse - That is a fact not a flaw. It does point out beyond a shadow of a doubt that no one goes to hell with out a choice. They have no excuse because they KNEW GOD! That is not flawed. Again I am not angry just speaking the truth and what Paul said and what Jesus Said.

Thank you for giving all the verses showing we can do nothing but for the Holy Spirit in us.

I got saved through the preaching of John at 19 years old, 30 years ago. I have listened to thousands of his sermons since then. This is one of his best!

@patrickmcguire2434

2 жыл бұрын

That's exceptional. One Thousand sermons a year is 19 sermons a week, every week.

@globalyexperts1589

2 жыл бұрын

@@patrickmcguire2434 u sounds arminian isnt? He wasnt actually meant thousand sermons a year he said thousands of sermons since then which simply means many.

@patrickmcguire2434

2 жыл бұрын

@@globalyexperts1589 I Don't have a Made brand burnt onto my backside. I spent over two years night and day ready the Bible, before I went to a church. (Missionary Baptist). I never saw any indication of a God such as the Calvinists teaches in the Bible. Instead I saw the God of all creation in Jesus Christ who had love and compassion for sinners and loathed the nose in the air early Calvinists (Pharisees and Roman Catholic). I know two years is nothing but that was Thirty years ago. I cannot lose my salvation, I can't do anything to keep or lose it. All Christians have histories they aren't proud of but they learned and came out stronger in the faith. I yearn for the Word and the Rapture daily. I hope you do too.

@patrickmcguire2434

2 жыл бұрын

How do you know you are part of the elect and not just another religious person?

@doug2993

2 жыл бұрын

@@patrickmcguire2434 That’s easy, love for the Lord and a love of His word.

The best pastor of our time. Love John MacArthur so much. Been so blessed by his godly wisdom and biblical teachings throughout the years.

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

Voddie Baucham or Steve Lawson best

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Please give ALL of the Glory to God and Him Alone , for salvation is ALL by Grace alone , through faith alone In Christ alone , and ALL to the Glory of God Alone , Hallelujah ! .

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

@@mrssherrielynn Why not email him and enlighten him , and by the way as an ex Romanist I agree with everything you say about this Awful system , I also have inlaws who are steeped in it up to their necks and would have it no other way to their detriment , regardless of how many times they are told the truth , but there again its only God who can make a Saint , and we can only tell them , Cheers and God Bless ! .

@riclmena9395

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like you worshipping him, is he your idol that you worship?

@riclmena9395

Жыл бұрын

@@happyforever1528 typical calvinist

Once God opens your eyes to see these truths in Scripture you cannot unsee them, and so many things click into place. I'm so thankful for the ministry of John MacArthur even though his teachings once used to make me so mad lol

@johnmguzman7491

8 ай бұрын

He belongs in 'TULIP'?

@dustincampbell4835

8 ай бұрын

@@johnmguzman7491 if you're asking if John MacArthur is Reformed, then yes he is :)

@David_Watts

7 ай бұрын

His teachings STILL make my relatives mad!! 😆 They are into prosperity etc, and can't see (what he) has been allowed to teach, with the conviction of the Holy Spirit. The Lord has ABSOLUTELY blessed us with such a wonderful teacher...🙏🙏

@geraldpolmateer3255

6 ай бұрын

@@dustincampbell4835 all of the reformers were pedobaptists. Calvin believed in a city of Zion.

@JakkWagon

6 ай бұрын

​@@David_WattsOf course: they refuse to repent yet say they have god their puppets approval. They are enemies of Christ and grace.

One of the greatest sermons of all time

The most influential preacher of the day. Who will step in his shoes when he passes. I see so many churches dying trying to be all things to all people and preaching so watered down for growing it is sickening. I listen to John every night before going to sleep and love his sound doctrinal stand of the gospel f Jesus Christ my Savior and Lord!❤

@happyforever1528

7 ай бұрын

The tars are already sewn among the wheat , but Almighty God already knows whom He has chosen and given them a love for the truth which is the word of God , they cannot be fooled by false preachers , not for long anyway !.

@danimaldanjidov6883

4 ай бұрын

You are terrific, I Echo word for word what you said and don't even need to reply because you said it all for me. I'll see you in heaven sweet person. You are spot-on.

@jameschappell-ih4cw

4 ай бұрын

Look at all you Calvinists. So sure are you of your own personal salvation. You embrace Johnny’s abhorrent five point Calvinists, which taken to its logical conclusion puts non elect babies in hell, but that’s a pill you will gladly swallow if you are elect. If you understand this theology and its implications correctly, I wonder how you sleep at night, and if you don’t, hit the books and stop isolating verses that you think support the horrendous doctrines of total depravity and unconditional election. God is love and that love is unconditional. The good news is His kingdom not your individual election.

@emmanuel5566

3 ай бұрын

​@@jameschappell-ih4cwDuring the Exodus, the death of angel killed all the firstborn, that included infants too. Now how do you think about that? How will that let you sleep on it?

@jameschappell-ih4cw

3 ай бұрын

@@emmanuel5566 Well my question is how do YOU explain it? God does as he pleases, sure, but you Calvinists take one example from Scripture and paint it over the entire history and future of salvation and the world. Just because He did what you described that in no way shape of form means he send babies to hell. How do you even make that connection? If that is what you think, you need to check your reasoning. Nowhere in the bible does it say that is what always happens or that it means non elect babies go to hell. But Calvinism has only internal logic. It cannot survive external examination because it falls apart.

An encouragement for parents with wayward children: 1. God has to do the work in their hearts. 2. We are called to pray that He will continue to work, that He will be pleased to grant them repentance. Thank you, brother MacArthur.

@CS-bn4un

Жыл бұрын

Amen and Amen!

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

@@CS-bn4un amen

@happyforever1528

11 ай бұрын

The wonderful thing about the chosen is they were forgiven their sins when Jesus Christ died upon the cross , before many were even born , Chosen by God the Father In Jesus Christ before the world was made , not because of any good He foresaw in them , but simply because He loved them , they are called into the knowledge of that salvation at their appointed time , what can be more WONDERFUL then That ??? .

@johnloftin2461

8 ай бұрын

and if he doesn"t? If your wayward child or my wayward child is blessed to glorify God by sovereignly ordained eternal suffering? What would you say to that God? Please think in terms of very real eternal suffering.

@harrymurray9702

7 ай бұрын

@@johnloftin2461 What is your point? This is God's decision... What can we do to change his mind? Can we move Jesus Christ? Absolutely not, and Jesus Stated not all would be saved clearly. I wish all would be saved, it isnt my decision.

180 ° U TURN! THANK YOU so much for the enlightening msg.

"CHOOSE this day whom you will serve." "I set before you Life and Death; CHOOSE Life."

@JakkWagon

6 ай бұрын

In Adam ALL men DIE not too complicated cultboy simp propaganda regurgitator brainwashed minion 🤥🤦

@foundations101

2 ай бұрын

Who said this? To whom? NB: God's people can choose because they have been saved. Sinners can't choose life.

@todddetz1118

2 ай бұрын

You’ve supplied 1 verse to try and contradict the hundreds of other verses that say otherwise. Scripture doesn’t contradict itself so you must ask what is the context, who said this and to whom?

@DavidMccallister65

2 ай бұрын

@todddetz1118 you're right. Scripture doesn't contradict itself, and there are hundreds of other verses that make it clear that God gives each and every person a choice. YOU are contradicting that.

@foundations101

2 ай бұрын

@@DavidMccallister65 Which comes first, the conviction of the Spirit, then the Choice? OR the Choice, then the conviction of the Spirit? If you pick the first you mean, new birth occurs before one can see to pick the Kingdom (Jn 3:3) If you pick the second you mean, a person sees God's kingdom before new birth (_______)

Excellent refutation of Pelagianism.

This is a faithful Bible expositor. I couldn't thank God enough for his teaching.

Like Pastor Swindoll said one time recently: "He is God, and I am not." Even our so-called free will is a form of self-righteousness. Powerful message.

@happyforever1528

11 ай бұрын

Freewill in no more then Arminianism Heresy , brought into our country by John Wesley , Its a man centred gospel and nothing to do with the real thing ,the real thing is =, Salvation is All of God from beginning to end , For we are saved by Grace Alone , through Faith Alone , in Jesus Christ Alone , and All to the Glory of God Alone , Cheers and God Bless !.

@peterpulpitpounder

9 ай бұрын

No, freewill is not a form of self-righteousness. Even the Bible says, "They believed not the love of the truth, that they MIGHT be saved." This MIGHT does not fit the typical Calvinist view on the human condition. Yes, salvation is of God, but man is not totally passive in terms of repentance, faith and personal volition.

@dmeachy

9 ай бұрын

And the beat goes on.@@peterpulpitpounder

@happyforever1528

9 ай бұрын

Salvation is all by Grace Alone, through Faith Alone , in Jesus Christ Alone , and All to the Glory of God Alone ! .@@peterpulpitpounder

@happyforever1528

8 ай бұрын

The word Pride comes to mind ! .

Excellent message! Thank you!😊

Great sermon

@endtimesareuponus8930

Жыл бұрын

EVIL

@alvinhickling901

Жыл бұрын

@@endtimesareuponus8930 you are for sure Satan !

John McArthur, is probably one the greatest preachers of our time

@luboshcamber1992

2 жыл бұрын

I think possibly of all time.

@mannycano4599

2 жыл бұрын

So where does Spurgeon fit in?

@mannycano4599

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I really don't think John MacArthur is one of the greatest preachers of all time. That's somewhat absurd to even think that is true

@andrewburrow3118

Жыл бұрын

Actually Christ Jesus is the true best teacher of all time!!! He taught the other teachers by the Holy Spirit!!!

@7nogard6

Жыл бұрын

Voddie Baucham and R.C. Sproul are just as good!

So, so good. Excellent teaching and completely and truthfully biblically sound.

@jeffouellette9946

Жыл бұрын

No true. The reason why Paul no longer a child of wrath is because he crucified the flesh and died to himself daily.

@mikemccormick9667

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffouellette9946 All because of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffouellette9946 no space case Saul was blinded and knocked down by a vision from God on His way to arrest Christians that's the only reason He even stopped hating Yeshua. You dont have a brain cell functioning properly lying fake hypocrite.

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffouellette9946 Read the actual bible sheesh

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffouellette9946 snake offspring

"Long my imprisoned spirit lay, fast bound in sin and nature's night. Thine eye diffused a quickening ray, I woke, the dungeon flamed with light. My chains fell off, my heart was free! I arose, went forth, and followed Thee!"

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Hallelujah ! .

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Thats the way we All are before our conversion , Dead in trespasses and sins , and not inclined to God in any way , But thanks be to God and Father Who even before the world was made choose to Himself out of All humanity , yes even before we were born and gave us to His Only Son Jesus Christ to die in our place to pay for ALL of our sins and indeed make us Holy and without stain before Him in love , we were only brought into the knowledge of that salvation on receiving His Gift of Faith , Salvation is all of God from beginning to end and nothing of man . Cheers and God Bless !.

@saludanite

Жыл бұрын

@@happyforever1528 No one taught these things before the Reformation. Jesus certainly did NOT! He said that unless you repent, you shall likewise perish. Jesus taught his disciples to heal the sick, and to cast out demons. Your instructors don't believe these things can be done, when they should be doing them regularly. Then Jesus told them to teach THEIR baptized disciples to do EVERYTHING that He had instructed THEM! Where will you find Jesus' instructions? In the Gospels. You have a LOT of reading to do. Turn MacArthur off and get to work!

@raifcluster

Жыл бұрын

@@happyforever1528 amen!

@eternalpeaceandjoy

Жыл бұрын

My favorite song- I sing it daily!🎵

Thank you 🤗 Sir ! Acts 16:14

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Acts 13 : 37 - 38, Eph 1 : 3 - 7 , Col 13 : 14 ! .Cheers and God Bless !

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Acts 13 : 48 ! .and as many as were ORDAINED to ETERNAL LIFE Believed !.

John MacArthur impresses me very much because he speaks clearly, he motions modestly and speaks directly to the point of his message and doesn't declare that he is always right but maintains as to what the bible tells him in his own understanding. He stands firm with his knowledge of what he understands and knows he does not have all the answers about God. He does not run around on his podium like a wild idiot, nor shouts into the microphone with a loud voice as though no one can hear him and acts likes someone extremely high on caffeine and that impresses me the most

@mikem3789

Жыл бұрын

Yes, he is astutely adept at talking out of both sides of his mouth 👍

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

@@mikem3789 you just aren't smart enough to understand anything truthful.

@endtimesareuponus8930

Жыл бұрын

You haven't read the Bible. Calvinism is Satanic

@jimkraft9445

Жыл бұрын

Yes He does. He preaches salvation by grace and adds works. Romans 11:6. If we add one work to grace we have perverted the gospel of grace an preach works. Lordship salvation is works salvation which perverts the gospel of grace. He makes the cross of no effect. He denies the blood of Jesus which covers us from all sin, past, present, and future sins we have not even thought of yet. John 3:18. Believers can no longer be condemned, but unbelievers are condemned already because they have not believed on the name of the Son of God. Colossians 2:13. He has forgiven us ALL trespasses. Not some, but ALL. The GIFT of God is eternal life. All we have to do is accept His full payment for our sin. Paid in full. John 3:18. Paul said in Galatians 1:6-9 Let him be accursed.

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

2 Tim 2 : 19 , The WESTMINISTER CONFESSION STATES , Those of mankind that are predestinated unto life , God before the foundation of the world was laid according to His Eternal and immutable purpose , and the secret council and good pleasure of His will has chosen in Christ , unto everlasting Glory , out of His mere free Grace and love , without any foresight of faith or good works or perseverance in either of them , or any other thing in the creature as conditions or causes moving Him thereunto , and all to the Praise and Glory of His grace .Eph 1 : 3 - 7 , Rom 8 : 30 , 2 Tim 1 : 19 , Thess : 5 : 9 , Rom 9 : 11, Enjoy and be Blessed !.

Very favorite preacher forever. Fellow believers, remember me as I witness to Mormons in Rigby, ID.

Grace Alone Faith alone And that very Faith is a Gift from God You didnt earn it or develop it God gifted it to you

@brockmitchell3989

Жыл бұрын

Amen!

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Roman 10 : 17 , Faith cometh by the hearing , and hearing by the word of God !.

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Romans 10 : 17 , But faith cometh by Hearing , and hearing by the Word of God !.Grace is the Gift of God spoken of ! .

@kurtweiand7086

Жыл бұрын

There once was a time l thought this doctrine of unconditional election to be false. However as l grow in GRACE and in the knowledge of the word of God, it seems to be impossible to ignore. Not very popular 😕 . But heh, after Jesus taught his followers this in John 6 many left, except the 12. Peter spoke up, "where else could we go..we believe you are the son of God." Jesus's answer, "Didn't l chose you the 12. Can't really miss that one!

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

@@kurtweiand7086 That's because it is impossible to ignore , Cheers ! .

What is so hard to give ALL Glory to GOD?

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

Not a single human has ever nor will they YHVH God is the author of the veil that blinds them Isaiah 6

@detached

Жыл бұрын

Many think it does violence to God's character, thinking it makes him the author of evil, sin, etc. Of course He says is in control of all things AND Holy. They don't understand so they refuse to submit to it. Human pride...

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

That's fallen mans EGO ! .

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Its because the prince of the power of the air wants to keep us in ignorance of our GREAT SALVATION already worked for us by our wonderful Almighty God ! .

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

The unregenerated will hates that , it must claim some of the Glory for self ! .

I thought for years I made the first move and God saved me. I didn’t know the Bible. It’s so clear

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

Yes sir of course Total depravity

@77ronboy

Жыл бұрын

I, like millons of other Christians who were blinded, am right there with you. "IF" we played any active part in our own Salvation, then we would be taking some of the credit, which means we would be robbing God of the credit that belongs to Him alone.

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

We All were in the same boat ,its only when we start to grow in the knowledge of the Bible that we see what we have been taught is up the Creek , that's called Arminianism Its an old Heresy brought by the Jesuit's , its the halfway house back to RC Heretical System , it was brought by one called Jacob Arminius , hence the name , he was tried and found to be a heretic ! .

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

That's called Arminianism , what is called Another Gospel , and it gives no assurance of anything , its all down to man , Heresy !.many say it is the path leading back to Rome ! steer clear of it , and if you are in it come out of it !.

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

I should think we All thought that until the Holy Spirit opened our eyes to see how Blessed we are to have been chosen by our Almighty God and Father in Jesus Christ Before the world was made , its such a Amazingly Wonderful thing to happen to sinners like us , Hallelujah !.

Good night, daily reminded of my poverty of spirit apart from the grace of the Lord Jesus

As a child I always loved God. But, I wasn’t saved since Zi never heard the Gospel in Catholic School. But, I must have always been one of the elect since the minute I first heard the Gospel, I readily accepted it. I’ve never been the same since then.

Heard a preacher say during the alter call , “ you can choose today to be reborn”

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

Typical fake western revivlaist easy believism

@douglassmith7371

Жыл бұрын

Reborn takes a lifetime

God created us and He can do whatever He pleases .He is the Potter and we are the clay .By God's grace we are saved .My favorite hymn is Amazing Grace ,it says it all . ❤️

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Amen Rodney !.

@endtimesareuponus8930

Жыл бұрын

He's a Heretic!

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

@@endtimesareuponus8930 psycho wackjob

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

I fell so far i should have died John Newton solid believer in the Doctrines of grace

@endtimesareuponus8930

Жыл бұрын

@@iacoponefurio1915 you Certainly are. Keep it up Satan follower. I know you will. You Won't quit your Satan worshipping and you Won't quit sending Satanic comments. Satan taught you.

Thank you for the sermon, sir. It is refreshing. Who can stop God to do His will? He chose Abel over Cain, Jacob over Esau and Jesus chose the 12. Everything we have comes from God.

When I was truly converted, divine election made complete sense to me, although at first I was hesitant. I grew up in a very legalistic environment, a charasmatic Pentecostal denomination. Where you are constantly on guard, able to lose your salvation with any sin, and could die and go to hell if not fully repentant and completely clear of all sin before death. It was a nightmare. After truly becoming a Christian, almost 20 years later, I listened to and read MacArthur and sproul. I realized I had it all wrong and it was like a light bulb going off in my head, everything made sense and the Word of God became plain and clear. I also came to the realization that I was helplessly lost and unable to free myself absent God,s intervention.

@flybunny58

16 күн бұрын

Thanks for the comment I grew up the same way, my whole family believes like that around 70 in all I'm like the only one in my family that believes salvation is not dependent on the measure of my faith its dependent on the promise of God that I am sealed to the day of redemption and no one can snatch me out of the fathers hand.

one of the best messages ever!!!!!

@endtimesareuponus8930

Жыл бұрын

Heretic

@wesware3613

Жыл бұрын

Brother- Do you have a hunger for righteousness as he says here? How do I measure my hunger vs. yours to be saved? What if I’m not part of the elect? Does Jesus need you to continue to do good things to enter heaven? Wouldn’t that be discrediting the finished work of the whole point of Jesus in the first place? Questions to consider for yourself if you think this is the best message ever.

@alvinhickling901

Жыл бұрын

@@wesware3613 not every one that says to me LORD LORD BUT he that DOES my fathers will ! move along !

@wesware3613

Жыл бұрын

@@alvinhickling901 not sure what you’re referencing but what I do know is you’re saved by grace and believing in Jesus and having faith in him, trusting in that alone. You’re not saved by going around doing a bunch of good things “in the name of the father”. Johnny here thinks there is “living faith” and “dead faith”. Wrong. What good news is it to hear that now that you’re a Christian you have to make sure you do this and this and this and oh make sure you don’t do that and definitely repent of your sins if you did this that’s crossing the line, the line we just created and interpreted. Jesus loves you whether you sin or don’t sin- that’s the whole point of Him :)

@alvinhickling901

Жыл бұрын

@@wesware3613 you know nothing of JESUS accusser of the Brethren ! Johny here is infinetly more qualified to Speak on JESUS behalf than you are ! and I have zero tolerance for your like JUDAS now buzz off !

Absolute true teaching 👌👌👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏

@endtimesareuponus8930

Жыл бұрын

No, complete Heresy. Please read the whole Bible.

@andrewlawrencei3239

Жыл бұрын

@@endtimesareuponus8930 thank for suggestions, I pray that you will read your Bible also. Everyone have their own opinion, let God be the judge. I don’t trust anyone including the preachers. You can believe what you want, I will believe what the Bible said. I am a human and you a human we are all not perfect only God are perfect.

@endtimesareuponus8930

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewlawrencei3239 I see you didn't read the whole Bible. If you did, you'd see this is heresy.

@endtimesareuponus8930

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewlawrencei3239 what does I Timothy 2:5-6 say?

@saludanite

Жыл бұрын

@@endtimesareuponus8930 Every MOMENT a man spends with Jesus will make him more loved by the Lord throughout eternity. The longer you read Calvin, the more likely Jesus will say, "Do I even KNOW you?"

Thank you Pastor MacArthur. I believed this from the beginning, yet exposed to so much error in theology, so much self-image teaching, that it’s been only by God’s grace that I’ve been shown the truth about my own dead condition. Thank God for the truth of the Gospel!

FACTS ,. "Who is like HIM". no one. its important to view and understand the proper structure of what the church is. really is a fine line into His kingdom, and misguiding His children, even if in innocence, is very easy to do now a days. and trying to fix that misguidedness , tough game, it does compound like interest. i appreciate your words sir

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Its not misguidedness but the fallen nature who thinks it deserves some of the glory for their salvation , but salvation is all of God from beginning to end , For salvation is all by Grace Alone , through Faith Alone In Jesus Christ Alone , and All to the Glory of God Alone

@endtimesareuponus8930

Жыл бұрын

Jesus died as a Ransom for ALL. MacArthur is a Heretic.

@endtimesareuponus8930

Жыл бұрын

@@happyforever1528 RANSOM for ALL !!

@endtimesareuponus8930

Жыл бұрын

@@happyforever1528 look. I Told you TO STOP HARASSING ME. NOW STOP !

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

@@endtimesareuponus8930 Jesus Christ died for all those whom the Father had given to Him before the world was made , there is only one heretic here and that is Not John MacArthur !.As He says , All that the Father has Given unto me will come and all that come unto me I will not cast out !.

What an amazing Word of God

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

its the most wonderful word we poor fallen creatures could ever hear , it really does make ones heart sing , Hallelujah !.

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Amazingly Wonderful Grace of God to undeserved sinners !.

@jaycho1255

Жыл бұрын

No Seung Jae, Calvin said in his book, Institute, God also predestined many to go to hell and burn forever. God, for his own pleasure, made certain many would never be able to accept Christ as Lord. What John Mac Arthur and many Calvinists are doing is to sugarcoat what Calvin actually believed and taught. If there is no free will, all the sins committed had to have been orcastrated by God.

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

@@jaycho1255 No ! God just left them to pay the penalty for their own sins , For salvation is all of God , He Chooses who He will , as Romans says " I will have Mercy on whom I will have mercy and whom He wills He hardens , For its Not of Him that runneth , nor of him that willeth but of God that showeth mercy ! .

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

@@jaycho1255 God never predestinated people to go to Hell , He just left them to suffer the consequences for their own sins!.

Amen.

START SEEING IT ALL THROUGH SCRIPTURE... I HAD WRONG LENS ON BEFORE, FELT STUPID ONCE I SAW IT (GOD REVEALED IT TO ME). :-). BLESSED NOW!! But I don’t beat up anybody with it, it’s God’s job to open hearts & eyes.

@andrewlawrencei3239

Жыл бұрын

Amen , absolutely 👌👍🙏🙏🙏

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely! We are a stubborn stupid lot so we know we would be as wicked as we could without His choices toward us.

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

We only see it when the Holy Spirit opens our eyes to see it .!.

@andrewlawrencei3239

Жыл бұрын

@@happyforever1528 Amen , absolutely 👍

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Yes its the most amazing thing that could happen to sinful people , For when Adam and Eve disobeyed in the garden We ALL inherited their sinful nature ,That's what we do ,sin ! there is none holy in Gods eyes no not one , But Thanks be to God who has given us the victory through our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ .

"No man comes to me UNLESS the Father draws him" Jesus said.

@tommysuriel

7 ай бұрын

That verse doesn't deny man's ability to reject God's drawing.

@castropianoforte

7 ай бұрын

@@tommysuriel Just read the whole thing

@Romans1136.

3 ай бұрын

Context....your missing the context. You can not just proof text your way through scripture

I confess with my mouth that Jesus is The Lord!! I believe with all of my heart that God raised Him from the dead. Glory and praise to God, In Jesus Name, Amen.

@aletheia8054

Жыл бұрын

To confess does not mean to say “Jesus is Lord“. It’s the Greek word homolegeo. It means to say the same things as Christ the Lord. To be in agreement.

@timothyhodges705

Жыл бұрын

Amen, Gregwiele2502, Jesus is LORD, and risen SAVIOR, not Calvin and his followers.

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

And you can only do that when you were given the Gift Of Faith ! .

@dorianorossi

Жыл бұрын

Romans 10:9-11; Romans 10:9 if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Yes ! , and you can only believe that because God has given you the GIFT of Faith , for salvation is all by Grace through Faith , which is a gift from God , and Not of works lest any man should boast !.

It is a wonder to hear our elder brother, teacher and pastor for remaining consistent in this strange land as we journey home! Much honor where honor is due!!

@happyforever1528

7 ай бұрын

All honour belongs to Almighty God Alone , For we are saved by Grace Alone , through Faith Alone , In Jesus Christ Alone and ALL to the Glory of God Alone , Cheers and God Bless !.

@dvsdvs04

7 ай бұрын

A contentious spirit without a cause...examine this.. 1 Timothy 5: 17 Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.

I have been a Calvinist for 47 years and I have never heard anything to make me change my mind.

@peterpulpitpounder

9 ай бұрын

What about those mentioned in the bible who "might" [potentially] have been saved? It says "might", so the potential existed, the opportunity existed, and these people will be held accountable for not believing. But, of course, the Calvanist viewpoint says they have no capacity to believe, and that God has to produce the faith, etc. If that is the case, then how could these people have potentially been redeemed? ("might").

@eleazarfernandez9369

9 ай бұрын

I recommend beyond the fundamentals, a video called election is nothing like you were told. He has a few videos about Calvinism. He helped me realize some flaws with Calvinist theology and also realize how every Calvinist is taught that arminianism is the opposite but it's simply a branch from Calvinism and equally wrong

@peterpulpitpounder

9 ай бұрын

I've always said that there are "four" legs to chair. Take one away, and you'll end up on the floor. Bringing the various truths of scripture together in harmony and balance is critical. Our appreciates the "clear" fundamentals of Scripture, without getting bogged down debating and discussing matters that will not be resolved until heaven overtakes this world. There's enough spiritual food to devour on the table that has been set before us to choke on the harder vittles of theology. I know many people who have no idea what the TULIP acrostic represents, and they are fine, godly Christian folk. :) @@eleazarfernandez9369

@happyforever1528

8 ай бұрын

Calvinism is but the word of God , it did not come from man but from God , for we are saved by Grace Alone, through Faith Alone , in Jesus Christ Alone , and All to the Glory of God Alone ! .

@peterpulpitpounder

8 ай бұрын

Um, Calvinism is NOT the gospel. Sure, it contains gospel truth, but it is NOT the gospel, any more than dispensationalism is the gospel. I know a girl who got saved in a Calvinistic based church, then later in her walk with the Lord she came to disagree with certain elements taught by the church, and subsequently left and joined another solid Christian church with views more in harmony with her personal convictions. That church gasped at her decision, very similar to a cult group who thinks it has a monopoly on truth. Sadly, some Calvinistic churches have taken on the spirit of a cult group, seeking to promote its way of thinking at the expense of the pure, simple message of the Cross. I've preached for 30 years in the same place. We rarely talk about John Calvin, the subject and debate surrounding Calvinism, and most people don't know much about nor care about the TULIP acrostic. And it's amazing how lovely and godly these folks are! In fact, it some respects I'm glad they live in ignorance to some of this "stuff" people spend their whole lives debating. They have the essential under their belts, and that's all that truly matters. @@happyforever1528

Jesus came that we may have (spiritual) LIFE, and have it abundantly.

I asked my pastor (Masters degree in Theology) if I was a Calvinistic Armenian or am Arministic Calvinist and he answered that I was just a Jesus follower.

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Ha Ha Ha , in other words He did not know the difference !,

@etiennelouw9244

Жыл бұрын

@@happyforever1528 He did, so do I, in the mind of God, it comes together.

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Well that was his way of avoiding the question , its no wonder the so called church is in a bad way ! .

@nikokapanen82

Жыл бұрын

@@etiennelouw9244 We, Jesus' followers, are still either leaning toward monergistic or synergistic theology. Monergism means that it was God alone who gave us a saving faith, it was a gift and not from us so we cannot boast and synergistic theology means that God only offered you salvation as He does to everybody and then you acted to take that offer and save yourself.

@etiennelouw9244

Жыл бұрын

@@nikokapanen82 I know, can't you guys understand a joke?

Amen!! Scripture after scripture backs this up!

@endtimesareuponus8930

Жыл бұрын

Misinterpreting the scripture and IGNORING much of the Bible.

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Once seen its Everywhere in the Scriptures !.

Amen! 26 But you do not believe because you are not of My sheep. 27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. (John 10:26-28, NASB)

Amen

The gift of evangelism exists; to help man understand the gospel. Faith cometh by hearing.

@leroybroun4106

Жыл бұрын

what is the Gospel?

@angloaust1575

Жыл бұрын

Only if the seed falls upon the good soil!

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Not to all it seems !.

@geraldpolmateer3255

Жыл бұрын

What scripture reference do you have to support "The gift of evangelism exists"?

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

@@geraldpolmateer3255 Eph.4 : 11 , And He gave some , Apostles and some Prophets and some EVANGELISTS and some Pastors and teachers , for the perfecting of the Saints , for the work of the ministry , for the edification of the body of Christ !. Cheers and God Bless !

I have to listen to that , be like the Bereans and check with your Bible to see that all is right !.

Could someone please tell me what the actual title of this message is? I tried to do a search for this message on the GTY website, but it didn't come up.

@flybunny58

5 ай бұрын

usually I would go to GTY site and go to the search bar and put in a key word like arminian then all the messages with that word will come up

@kellydeanbishopatgmaildotc9774

5 ай бұрын

@@flybunny58 Thank you. I tried searching "Calvinist" and "Amminian" on the GTY website and it didn't show up. I also tried searching KZread videos of John in a beige suit and brown tie, but didn't find another one like this.

God gets ALL of the credit for enabling you to preach the truth of the Bible, dear Pastor John! Been saved going on 45 years now, having responded and believing in the saving grace of Jesus Who opened my lost, blind eyes! I LOVE HIM, BECAUSE HE FIRST LOVED ME! The more I read and study the Scriptures the more I grow spiritually and the happier I am even in stressful situations! Thank you, Ps John, for your faithfulness and obedience to Jesus Christ!!!💕

@yafois988

8 ай бұрын

uuuuhhmm, NOOO! A holy God doesn't send these filthy false prophets and their satanic Manichaeism theology to humanity, He WARNS ppl about them with his Apostles! Galatians 7-9, 2 John 11!!!

Why is is hard for people to believe 1Corinthians Chapter 15 verse 1-10 ? And Galatians Chapter 1 verses 6-9 ?

@charleshinchcliff3495

2 жыл бұрын

Also 1st Corinthians 4:6 don't go beyond what's written.

@saludanite

Жыл бұрын

@@charleshinchcliff3495 THANK YOU!!!

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

I believe that !.

Well said.

After watching this video here is another John MacArthur video you need to see. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nqdnr6WdeKmwoKQ.html

I recommend Luther’s commentary on Romans.

@saludanite

Жыл бұрын

What's wrong with asking the Holy Spirit to open your eyes to the scriptures? Jesus said that He was sending the Spirit to teach you ALL things. Jn. 14.25-26. You ACTUALLY prefer Luther over God's promised Holy Spirit?

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

@@saludanite nutjob no 1 needs to flop on the ground liek a fish you fake pagan nutjob Now stop drop and roll! Hahahababababa

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

Luthers Bondage of the will is essential.

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

@@saludanite strawman faker hater of the brethren get your own channel o right ive seen itjust an empty cult page no one visits no 1 ever agrees with you poser fraud.

@alexkelley385

Жыл бұрын

@@saludanite notice carefully that Christ is addressing the Apostles in regards to leading them into all the truth(also in ch.16). This is divine revelation from the Holy Spirit. Take note of 2 Tim. 3:16; 2 Peter 1:20,21.

",,,,Those who were appointed to Eternal life believed" Acts 13:48

@uncasunga1800

4 жыл бұрын

so simple

@mrnoedahl

4 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/nqdnr6WdeKmwoKQ.html

@tonymanfredonia5704

3 жыл бұрын

Great verse

@twsartadventures3660

3 жыл бұрын

That's not scripture. The verse actually says Acts 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. Notice how it doesn't say anything close to what your catholic non-God's-word says? You can't be appointed to anything if you don't accept the free GIFT of salvation. Matthew 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen. This verse makes no sense in your delusional reality, if there is no free will how is someone called and not chosen? You people are heretics denying Christ' shed blood of salvation. If it's not a gift then it's null and void.

@Romans8-9

2 жыл бұрын

@@twsartadventures3660 Transactional salvation is not Biblical. Where in Eph 1:5 does it say anything about "accepting the gift"? Was Paul "accepting the gift" when he was murdering Christians?

It's God that draws close to us first.

I don't really care about what historical sinners have said, but what God said in His word...

If I had anything to do with my salvation I would 100% end up in hell every time

@aletheia8054

Жыл бұрын

Amen

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Same goes for all of us , we are saved Grace through faith and this is not of ourselves but is a gift from God and Not of works lest any man should boast !.

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

AMen same

Im glad these aren’t the only 2 options

@bernardbennett1217

Жыл бұрын

The Bible teaches divine election and predestination. So you’re right actually there is only one way. Jesus paid it all. Jesus does it all. Anything else stems from pride.

@saludanite

Жыл бұрын

@@bernardbennett1217 Give me 20 commandments that Jesus gave us to fulfill.

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

@@saludanite nutjob give your lungs a rest from the meth

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

@@saludanite you are a psycho hahahaha No one is fooled The insane KZread comment gospel everybody wants it hahahahahahhhaha

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

@@saludanite how can zoomers be so blind to their own incompetent illogical position Oh yeah Isaiah 6 Total narcissism you dont want to change

If it's up to man to choose Christ to be saved..what trait would the man need to have?. Would you say he needs to be humble enough? Smart enough?. That would base it all on works. Working on humility to be saved. Being smart enough to understand the word to be saved.It's up to God who does or dosen't have the ears.

1 Corinthians 1:21 GNT For *_God in his wisdom made it impossible for people to know him by means of their own wisdom._* *_Instead, by means of the so-called "foolish" message we preach, God decided to save those who believe._*

Why I am neither a Calvinist nor Arminian: I Cor. 1:10 "I appeal to you, brothers, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be united in the same mind and the same judgment. 11 For it has been reported to me by Chloe's people that there is quarreling among you, my brothers. 12 What I mean is that each one of you says, “I follow Paul,” or “I follow Apollos,” or “I follow Cephas,” or “I follow Christ.” 13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul? ... 31 so that, as it is written, “Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord.”

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

The real reason is you do not know believe or understand any of the bible and have never been properly taught anything. But you are too embarrassed self righteous and competitive in your darkness to admit it.

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

You have no idea what Christianity is.

@donblosser8720

29 күн бұрын

@@iacoponefurio1915 You have no idea how to make a logical, biblical argument. You are just raving mindlessly against a direct quotation of the Holy Bible.

The longer you study and let scripture interpret scripture. Confirming doctrine by more than one or 2 verses. The Bible becomes so harmonious it’s astounding. Like a symphony orchestra. I’m at the point 13 years into God saving me that I can barely even have a conversation about Christ with an Arminian to where they don’t grieve my spirit to the uttermost. It’s like everything they say is tainted and warped by their theological error. Their conversation always seems makes God so small and weak, and humankind so big and strong. It’s sickening.

@saludanite

Жыл бұрын

13 years. It is time to grow up. James 3 and Hebrews 6.

@andrewlawrencei3239

Жыл бұрын

Amen , absolutely I am agree 100%.👍👌🙏

@andrewlawrencei3239

Жыл бұрын

I have the same problem with Armenian people .

@saludanite

Жыл бұрын

There are no arminians/calvinists. This is a false construct coming out of the Reformation. There is ONLY faith in Jesus Christ. You need to FLEE from this teaching of MEN! Are you ashamed of Jesus and His words? No? Then WHY don't you READ them? All you talk about is what MEN said 1,400 years after the life and resurrection of the Lord?

@saludanite

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewlawrencei3239 The Armenian people were slaughtered by the Turkish army over a century ago!

John G. Paton was a missionary who evangelised a violent island where everyone, both men and woman, wear little to no clothing. In his book, The Story of John G. Paton or Thirty Years Among South Sea Cannibals, John G. Paton records this incident about a native man and woman who became Christians and then wanted to marry but feared they would be killed because there were a few men who wanted to marry the woman. In a few seconds, Yakin entered and if Nelwang’s bearing and appearance were rather inconsistent with the feeling of worship (he was wearing a shirt, kilt and tommahawk, John G. Paton felt it inappropriate to wear an emblem of violence to church)- and what on earth was I to do when the figure and costume of Yakin began to reveal itself marching in? The first visible difference betwixt a Heathen and a Christian is that the Christian wears some clothing, the Heathen wears none. Yakin had determined to show the extent of her Christianity by the amount of clothing she could carry upon her person. Being a Chief’s widow before she became Nelwang’s bride, she had some idea of state occasions and appeared dressed in every article of European apparel, mostly portions of male attire, that she could beg or borrow from about the premises! Her bridal gown was a man’s drab-coloured great-coat, put on above her native grass skirts and sweeping down to her heels, buttoned tight. Over this she had hung on a vest and above that, again, most amazing of all, she had superinduced a pair of men's trousers, planting the body of them on her neck and shoulders and leaving her head and face looking out from between the legs - a leg from either side streaming over her bosom, arid, dangling down absurdly in front! Fastened to the one shoulder also there was a red shirt and to the other a striped shirt waving about her like wings as she sailed along. Around her head, a red shirt had been twisted like a turban, and her notions of art demanded that a sleeve thereof should have a loft over each of her ears! She seemed to be a moving monster-loaded with a mass of rags. The day was excessively hot, and the perspiration poured over her face in streams. She, too, sat as near to me as she could get on the woman’s side of the church. Nelwang looked at me and then at her smiling quietly, as if to say, “You never saw in all your white world, a bride so grandly dressed!” I little thought what I was bringing on myself when I urged them to come to church. The sight of that poor creature sweltering before me constrained me for once to make the service very short - perhaps the shortest I ever conducted in all my life! The day ended in peace. The two souls were extremely happy, and I praised God that what might have been a scene of bloodshed had closed thus, even though it were in a kind of wild grotesquerie!

John 1: 12-13 makes it pretty clear. No ambiguity in these verses!

JM misrepresented the free-will crowd, when he said man can choose Christ, WITHOUT THE HOLY SPIRIT. The key scripture is Hebrews 6. Hebrews 6:4-9 (KJV) "For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God: But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned. But, beloved, WE ARE PERSUADED BETTER THINGS OF YOU, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak." God draws us, the Holy Spirit enlightens us, and convicts us of sin, righteousness, and judgment, and then the choice is ours. The thrust of Hebrews is warning fellow Jews NOT TO TURN BACK. They're drawn to the door, and Jesus is knocking, but it's their choice to open the door and walk through. God is NOT a respecter of persons.

Thanks for your kind response. He is very popular here in the Northeast (Maine) as well. I appreciate so much he stands for especially in response to the liberalization of the modern church. Just cant amen some of his redefinitions of so many terms relating to soteriology. Calvinism has many adherants here but I find most dont really pay much attention to what it really teaches. Recently found podcast called Soteriology101 that has been really helpful to communicate much I find the scripture to teach. God bless you !

@flybunny58

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@gregb6469

4 жыл бұрын

Soteriology 101 teaches an different gospel. Dr Flowers teaches a mixed gospel [God does His part,and man does his part, and the determining factor is what man does].

@donhaddix3770

4 жыл бұрын

kzread.info?search_query=neither+arminianism+or+calvanism

@peralopenaify

4 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/k4t5raaRZ8LLhps.html --------FAITH ALONE

@hondobondo

4 жыл бұрын

Flowers is a hack who barely understands the bible. Look up Alpha and Omega Ministries, James White. Flowers teaches the gospel of human pride and achievement.

Amen 1000%

Mr Anderson

Thank you!! This lecture justified confirmed that my conversion to atheism was the correct move

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

thank you also better an honest unbeliever than a dishonest charlatan trying infiltrate the ranks..

@siegfriedbartel7122

7 ай бұрын

As a born of God believer...I totally respect you as a person and human being...you are straight forward in your opinion and not a fake/ false, evil impostor "Christian" sitting in a "church" deceiving people from within...I respect you😊

@peacebe9518

6 ай бұрын

Oh remember if you could be glad as you are to reject God in your last moment before death. Cuz buddy death will knock more senses to a soul but then it'd be too late. I beg you repent and come to Jesus and He will carry you till the end. His love and grace will always be with you till the end he will prune what needs prining and smoothen you with suffering and lead you safely home. Don't be bothered about Calvinism or Arminianism. Just come to Jesus and Je will lead you . The rest are the mysteries of God who can behold it.

@Romans1136.

3 ай бұрын

That's why Calvinism is evil. Because according to that, you were never picked to begin with thus you left. I would tell you with a clear mind that Jesus still wants to save you. Turn and come back to the truth lest you be eternally separated from God for all of time.

One of the greatest theologian in the last 500 years!

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Thats why the old enemy attacks at every opportunity ! .

@doug2993

Жыл бұрын

I love John, but don't forget about the late RC Sproul. Voddie Bauchum is no slouch either. BTW, I'm gonna see him in Ft Lauderdale in a few weeks.

@davidgleeson1716

Жыл бұрын

@@doug2993 All of the above are very knowledgeable theologians. I'm just partial to Macaurthur, plus he personally signed my Bible.

@davidgleeson1716

Жыл бұрын

@@happyforever1528 He was the only church in the counrty, that I know of that did not shut down during the pandemic, even though the county find him hundreds of thousands dollars each service. The D.A. dropped all fines once they saw he was not playing around and stood on his constitutional grounds, in Jesus name.

@doug2993

Жыл бұрын

@@davidgleeson1716 Haha, Same here brother, years ago at a ligonier conference. He's a very humble man. I listen to his radio broadcast on my phone every weekday.

He says choose Him but no, it is accepting Him. Understanding that there is no life in us without Christ redeeming love.

John what does Romans 10 -9-10 say?

@charleshinchcliff3495

2 жыл бұрын

@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC asking for thought/opinions. Roman 10:9-10 provides proof Calvinism is a false teaching. Remember who Paul was teaching, who Paul was talking about being chosen, being predestined. God's grace allows free will to choose him he's no dictator as to choose you without you having choice, where is love in demanding your choice?

@charleshinchcliff3495

Жыл бұрын

@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC say what?

@jeffouellette9946

Жыл бұрын

@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC just because you don't like the truth doesn't mean you have to comment

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

If you shall confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus Christ, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead you shall be saved for with the Heart man believes unto righteousness , and with the mouth confession is made unto Salvation ! . Amen Brother and God Bless you and yours ! .

Salvation is all of God & man has absolutely no part to play in his salvation. The most damnable and pernicious heresy that has ever plagued the mind of man was the idea that somehow he could make himself good enough to deserve to live with an all holy God. Martin Luther. There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the spirit. Romans 8:1

@doug2993

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely correct!

@CarlosHernandez-dt3gp

2 жыл бұрын

Arminianism and Calvinism have been the classic debate between Christians, but to call out on them and say they are heretics is a mistake because they can be saying the same exact thing about Calvinists. The primary doctrines of salvation is what all Christians must say yes and Amen to. Other than that secondary doctrine will be debated until Jesus reaffirms in us all things as we dwell with him for eternity. God bless.

@carlosreira413

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, but Luther still held the power of grace vested in the Church and the sacraments, particularly baptism. He believed that the Christian culture of his day was of God and anything like a secularist world in which Christians were again the underdogs as they were in the first century was unthinkable. It's important to keep this in mind. Man had no part to play in his salvation because the play had essentially been made. It could not be UNMADE. This is different from Calvinism, especially the English speaking Puritan form which becomes so important to American Evangelical thinking.

@leekellettjr441

2 жыл бұрын

You like understanding. You are the ones who believe lordship salvation. We believe in the work of Jesus for our salvation not our works. You can believe what you want but don't accuse in your ignorance.

@leekellettjr441

2 жыл бұрын

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"Choose this day whom you will serve..." "Whosever will, let him come and drink the waters of life freely." "God, who would have all men to be saved." The doctrine of Total Depravity is NOT contrary to the idea that man has been granted the choice whether to submit to God or not. Man submits, God saves. The idea that God forces his grace on someone is contrary to the very idea of grace itself.

@aletheia8054

Жыл бұрын

The idea that a man chooses Christ because of his free will is contrary grace as well.

@douglashazelrigg4377

Жыл бұрын

@@aletheia8054 I don't believe so. A man decides, upon hearing the Word, to submit to God, but it STILL requires God to apply the grace obtained at Calvary to save him Titus 2:11 "For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people."

@aletheia8054

Жыл бұрын

@@douglashazelrigg4377 Yes a man decides. But not because of freewill

@douglashazelrigg4377

Жыл бұрын

@@aletheia8054 That is contradictory

@aletheia8054

Жыл бұрын

@@douglashazelrigg4377 What is contradictory?

clickbait: the title is so misleading :( the message is not about calvinism or arminianism but about the Truth of the Scripture

I would like to discuss his comment that the sinner hate himself. I need clarification on this if any in the comments know what he meant. Does this mean we hate ourselves daily? I have always been confused by what my attitude towards myself should be according to the Bible. Love God and love others... but that can't mean I give and give and give out endlessly bc I can't.

@jacobgamber5407

Жыл бұрын

I'm probably not qualified to answer this question, but if it encourages you in your faith, sister, I would say try to love God first -- put him first; love others selflessly, humbly, "esteeming" yourself lower than they only inasmuch as your being humble, not fake of course; and try to find your strength in Christ. He will fill you to give to others, so that you don't have to fill yourself. Also, fellowship and prayer with other believers is a great and biblical way to share one another's burdens and encourage one another. God bless you.

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

First you have to be truly born again. Obviously you only want gifts and free stuff. The Christian life is of sacrifice.

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

Read Ezekiel 16

God, please help me, I can't love you in my own effort.

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

Israel what am i to do with you Your Love is like the early morning mist, the dew that disappears in the sunlight. Hopefully thats a sign you are true Israel. Keep seeking admitting looking

@douglassmith7371

Жыл бұрын

I Love that statement. TRUE! The fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge

22:57 this wouldn't be fair if God didn't give the sinner the right to make his own decision so that the sinner unaided by the Holy Spirit must make the first move that's essentially Arminian theology Um, no. That isn't essentially Arminianism. Arminianism doesn't claim that people can come to Christ unaided by the Holy Spirit. In fact, it agrees that God must draw people to Himself through the Holy Spirit. The difference is that the drawing is not irresistible.

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Arminian's believe in Free Will , in other words man can choose to believe or not to believe , its entirely up to him , he also believes that he will get to Heaven by his good works , plus God looked down through History and saw those who would believe , so they are the people He chose , plus they can never have the assurance of salvation they only have a hope of salvation , I have friends who are Arminian's , and they get very upset at the thought that they do not have free will but a fallen will , its All very sad to say the least , they now sit in a RC so called church as they can no longer can get to their own church , This Freewill came from Rome and is a Halfway house back to Rome ! .

@shop3dps188

10 ай бұрын

the Greek word for draw is as one drawing a net. Drawing is irresistible It's not a wooing, . We are fish drawn in a net, not lured by some attractive bait

@drakkonis1

10 ай бұрын

@@shop3dps188 and nothing ever escapes a net? 2 Peter 3:9 says that God's will is that none should perish, yet many do.

We are dead in trespasses and sins, only faith in what Jesus done for us at the cross can cleanes the sinner from their sins.

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

Dead people do not have faith. You missed the whole point.

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

Talk about a zombie

For Him to give us life means we are automatically saved? We cannot shut that door? Then what is the purpose of anything? I just can’t grasp this, and I think because it doesn’t make sense. The Spirit opening my heart to salvation makes sense but no choice ever doesn’t. As awesome as this sermon is, it falls short of clarifying between those two scenarios I just mentioned. Help me understand!!

In this game of "spiritual telephone", Reformed Calvinism seems to be the closest to what God really said at the beginning of the game in Genesis!😄👍

@franciscolucas5293

Жыл бұрын

God is willing that no one perish but ALL COME TO REPENTANCE. Read John 3:16 For God so loved the World = that's everybody. And whosever believes in him (an action we take in faith) .......Then why does it grieve God when the sinners pass away ?..... the Bible says Choose you , this day , whom shall you serve . Jesus said behold I stand at the door and knock , if any man hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and sup with him and him with me. Jesus is not gonna break the door down and force his way in. . . We have to invite him. Man has free will like in the Garden with Adam and Eve.

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

He separated the light from the darkness.

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

@@franciscolucas5293 no one has freewill you doorknob adam had no idea what he was doing he fell into unbelief You need to repent and join actual Christianity He will gather His elect from the 4 winds

@PurePuritan

Жыл бұрын

@Elizabeth Bennet we like to define things. God gives names, it's ok to have a vocabulary

@sweynforkbeardtraindude

Жыл бұрын

Acts 2:38

Whosoever shall call on the Name of the Lord, shall be saved. Romans 10:13

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Yes but someone who is dead in trespasses and sins ? , it has to be God who does the calling !

@kellygames8183

Жыл бұрын

@@happyforever1528 He calls everybody!!!

@douglassmith7371

Жыл бұрын

But how then shall they call on him in who they have not believed? Read further. To “Believe” is the method of salvation. And we cannot do that of our own selves. Even that God has to give us.

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

@@douglassmith7371 Amen brother ! , which is a gift from God !.

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

@@douglassmith7371 YES ! The grace of faith , whereby the Elect are enabled to believe to the saving of their souls , is the work of the Spirit of Christ in their hearts . The WESTMINISTER CONFESSION ! . Cheers and God Bless ! .

So how were Enoch and Elijah taken to heaven alive without being born again? And how do you explain God's answer to Cain in Genesis 4:6‐7 where God says to him about sin that Cain "must rule over it"? Is God telling Cain to do something which Cain is actually unable to do? He tells Cain that if he does well then he'll be accepted. Enoch and Elijah did well and were ascended into heaven long before Jesus Christ was. How does the doctrine of Total Depravity answer this?

When in the video does he begin talking about Arminian theology? I'm 7 in and he hasn't touched on it yet.

@daveslyker4431

Жыл бұрын

Watch the whole thing

@Yaveshtolethien

Жыл бұрын

@@daveslyker4431 I'm unwilling to watch the whole video until I know he has accurately described the Armenian position. I've never heard a Calvinist do so.

@gregsquire9704

Жыл бұрын

​@@Yaveshtolethien I've never heard an arminian accurately describe what Calvin and those who believe in the Doctrines of Grace believe.

@Yaveshtolethien

Жыл бұрын

@@gregsquire9704 John MacArthur is a teacher. I'm sure he's been corrected, yet he persists.

@gregsquire9704

Жыл бұрын

@@Yaveshtolethien Arminians have been corrected as well. The suggestion was given to watch the whole thing. If a person is unwilling to watch a video because it may not fit with what is held by the person. Then the person has shown what he believes and it is not worth the time and effort to discuss the subject with the individual.

Lazarus was physically dead. The prodigal son was spiritually dead.

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

And so were we , Dead in trespasses and sins , but thanks be to God who has given us the victory through Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ , who has already paid in Full the penalty for All of the sins of those whom the Father gave to Him before the world was made ! Eph. 1 : 3 - 7 , a Very good place to start , Hallelujah !

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

And both were made alive by Jesus Christ !.

@rozznel8692

Жыл бұрын

Amėn, but it is better to be spiritually alive. many people are physically alive but spiritually dead.

@Romans1136.

3 ай бұрын

The Prodigal son was still a son even when he went to a far off country. HE came to HIS senses. The text never says God made him etc..

Jesus is the start of new life and we need to be bornagain. Only the true believer who repent truly wil be recieving the Holy Spirit. Our spirit need to be bornagain IN THIS LIFE TO RECIEVE HEAVEN AFTER DYING. So are the fless have to pay for your sins and wil die and go to the grave til Jesus restore it with His returning in the air. Rapture.. The world religion are missing the greatest link to salvation . Its the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. John 1 : 12-13. Salvation is the work of God and not of your own . Rom 3;26 John 3:3 Rom 8:9 Rom 8:1

Acts 2:38!

Christ is being preached God does the saving regardless of The preachers efforts!

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Yes ! .

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

sure if its the truth of our total irrevocable fallenness and the guilty vile helpless state which necessitated a vicarious substitutionary atonement by a KINSMAN Redeemer!

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

@@iacoponefurio1915 And we all say Amen to that truth and a Big Fat Hallelujah ! .

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

@@iacoponefurio1915 Ah now they don't believe they are so that they cannot choose God by their so called Free Will , its going to be a hard lesson for many sad to say , Cheers and God Bless , the accusers of the brethren are snapping at my heels , for all the good it will do them , Cheers !

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

@@iacoponefurio1915 Now you are not allowed to say that to these self righteous Free Willers !, Cheers and keep up the good work !.

He gets cooking at 28:48

@twsartadventures3660

3 жыл бұрын

Calvanism can't even stand up to a single verse: Matthew 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Reall getting exhausted of Calvinists conflation of the two aspects of Salvation. Man's response-ability to the Spirit breathed word of the Gospel, and God's sovereign choice to regenerate those who "respond" to the message in faith. It is God's sovereign and gracious choice to pardon those who come to Him in faith as apposed to working to earn His favor. Faith is NOT a meritorious work. God is not obligated to forgive our sins when we admit we are sinners. He is gracious to forgive by His choice. It is no secret who God desires to save as Calvinists would lead us to believe. It is those who trust in His chosen SON.

@flybunny58

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you Jason For your comment my youtube videos was first started just to try it out now I try to use it for Gods glory I did live near John MacArthur's Church and loved his teaching I still do But now i only listen to him through his app I hope you enjoyed the message.

@joeiiiful

4 жыл бұрын

You are terribly confused. Probably you are sitting under an Arminian teacher and are not a critical thinker. Study to show yourself approved.

@uncasunga1800

4 жыл бұрын

you are totally clueless

@mrnoedahl

4 жыл бұрын

Here is the other John MacArthur. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nqdnr6WdeKmwoKQ.html

@David24476

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrnoedahl Thank you for the link. Seems to me both sermons contradict each other. I'm going through this struggle myself.

How about that word "MIGHT" we find in the NT? Regarding the matter of redemption, it says that many sinners will refuse to believe "that they MIGHT [potentially] be saved"? Might be saved? Potentially saved? Hmmm, that doesn't fit the typical Calvinist mold, since, according to Calvinism, nobody who has the potential to be saved will ever be lost, for all are elected unto salvation. There is not "might be saved" when it comes to the non-elect. How about "deeming yourselves unworthy of eternal life?" That's another statement in the Bible. Can that possibly be true of the dead sinner who has absolutely to capacity whatsoever to respond to God? There are plenty of Bible verses which fall into the Arminian camp, demanding that we present the revelation of Scripture in a balanced manner. One theological angle is not enough. Plucking one string on the Bible Banjo, so to speak, is not the playing good spiritual music.

Good news for all you Christians. Soon you will be able to attend Virtual Church Services (VCS). That means you can stay in bed on Sunday morning, thank God !

Could it be that the more educated a man gets, the more in ignorance he grows, the more prideful he grows,

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

yeah everyone shoudl stay a brainless zombie robot thats way better than getting educated. hahahahhaahhahahahaa

@iacoponefurio1915

Жыл бұрын

cult member detector beepo beep beep lol

@douglassmith7371

Жыл бұрын

Well no. However., the more INDOCTRINATION a person gets., the more libera…uhumm…prideful he gets . Real knowledge., real education..ability to think and reason will lead one to the truth. Macarthur is absolutely correct

I was once one who lapped up this lofty way of talking about God's sovereignty, power, etc. God is most glorified by the demonstration of His power in self sacrifice as shown for all the world at the cross. The Calvinistic system in my opinion portrays God as puffing Himself up and desiring to magnify His own glory at the expense of the majority of His creation predestined and decreed to damnation before the beginning of time. I will trust in the God clearly reaveled in the scriptures and not one who has "secret" wills that perhaps may not desire for my redemption.

@peralopenaify

4 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/k4t5raaRZ8LLhps.html --------FAITH ALONE

@uncasunga1800

4 жыл бұрын

youre a crazy fake liar obv

@MansterBear

3 жыл бұрын

The only reason we exist is for God's glory. God does everything for His due glory. You can create a God who doesn't purpose to be glorified if you wish, but don't trick yourself into believing it's the God of the Bible. www.desiringgod.org/articles/biblical-texts-to-show-gods-zeal-for-his-own-glory

@jasonburgess7745

3 жыл бұрын

@@MansterBear Your comment assumes God cannot or does not wish to be glorified/magnified by His self giving love, as demonstrated according to 1Corinthians 13, to all His enemies. I'll go with clear revelation, rather than man-made philosophical creation of "secret" wills that show God to be disingenuous, and the ultimate cause of man's choice to rebel.

@MansterBear

3 жыл бұрын

@@jasonburgess7745 God will be glorified in his exercise of mercy on the saved, and His exercise of judgement on the unrepentant. "God is most glorified by the demonstration of His power in self sacrifice" Show me 'clear revelation' in scripture that God is more glorified by his sacrifice than he is in his righteous judgement and justice. God will glorify himself in many ways. You simply have your own "man made" opinion on which is the "MOST" glorifying. That's nowhere in scripture, you simply "feel" better about it. You don't believe God has a secret will? So you are able to fully know the entire will of God? So what has he willed to happen next week? Do you know, or is it hidden from us? We are told in Job 9 that God "does great things beyond searching out". Romans 11 tells us "How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out". Of course God has a secret will.

The Arminians that I know will say that someone cannot be saved until Born again (regenerated), but once born again, then it is up to the person to either accept or reject God (salvation). Where does that come into the picture? they use the whole "grace & salvation is a gift, & you can reject a gift, in order to receive it, you must accept it." & of course, they also hold to being able to lose salvation. It sounds like a different form of Arminianism than what Pastor MacArthur is describing here.

@doug2993

Жыл бұрын

Well the Arminians are very confused, no surprise if there are all sorts of different offshoots to their theology...

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

Jesus Christ says you Must be Born Again , for flesh gives birth to Flesh , but the Spirit gives birth to Spirit , Marvel Not that I say you must be born again , its an act of the Holy Spirit who makes you born again !.

@briancayko

Жыл бұрын

@@happyforever1528 I agree & so would they, they claim that “after” you are born again, then you have the choice to reject or accept, but that at that point it’s a personal decision. Essentially denying irresistible grace.

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

There seems to be many versions of it Brian , probably depends on how the preacher feels that day ! .

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

@@briancayko I nearly started a Riot once at one of their meetings , when I asked " whatever happened to irresistible Grace , all hell broke out , people were shouting their heads off , they in the end were all told to be quiet !.

What about John 3M

Personally, I believe Armani is a better clothing designer than Calvin Klein.

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

If I were you I would change to sackcloth and ashes , it just might swing things in your favour !.

@jacobgamber5407

Жыл бұрын

I disagree, but as a connoisseur of puns, I have to say approve.👌

@miamiman196

Жыл бұрын

@@jacobgamber5407 thanks for understanding my pun!!!

@happyforever1528

Жыл бұрын

But he won't be able to supply your garment of salvation for you , only Almighty God can do that ! .

@miamiman196

Жыл бұрын

@@happyforever1528 Agreed. I was merely making a pun and an attempt at saying something lighthearted and humorous. But that didn't go over too well with this crowd.