Hello you legends. Get a 35% discount on all Cozy Earth products at www.cozyearth.com/modernwisdom Here's the timestamps: 00:00 Is Marriage Still Useful? 02:38 Society is Becoming More Prudish 11:52 Young People’s Views on Sex in Movies 15:05 Birth Control is Making Weak Men 20:19 The Gen-Z Pushback Against Romance 25:23 Is Patriarchy the Best System? 27:54 How Culture Impacts Our Views of Sex 33:00 Are Women Happier Now Than 70 Years Ago? 43:55 10 Years On From #MeToo 55:20 Why Men Aren’t Approaching Women 1:10:49 The Mental Health Crisis of Girls 1:19:09 Do Pedophiles Need Sympathy? 1:23:08 Why Women Support Body Positivity 1:27:50 The Normalisation of Cosmetic Surgery 1:38:14 Where to Find Louise

@awsambdaman

5 ай бұрын

More Louise! She’s so nuanced and bright and always brings new information instead of the same old cynical “we’re doomed”

@kungfujoe2136

5 ай бұрын

welcome to the end of economic prosperity and the decline of society i think that uncertainty is a bad breading ground for relationships (at my own job i see a lot of devorced men women have bf's fast after device or dending a relationship)

@kungfujoe2136

5 ай бұрын

look at the rate women use anti depressives things like valium speepingpills and xanex it's true the roof

@meatyay

5 ай бұрын

I like the "hello you beauties" greeting more. Please, Chris, call us beauties as often as you can 😅

@froyo9674

5 ай бұрын

13:22 wish they had taken this poll or study when I was young. Graduated 20 years ago, from high school. Never been on the pill. Just find it cringe..and I’ve felt that way since I was a kid. High sex drive..

Had a student when I taught in prison. He bragged about having 4 baby mama's. I asked him how it felt not being part of his kids' lives. How they would grow up without a father. He shrugged, "I grew up without my pops, and I turned out okay." He seemed oblivious to the fact that he was in prison and would be for another 12 years. Yeah. he turned out just fine. Created 4 more customers for the prison system to profit from in the future. Good job.

@ShaunHensley

4 ай бұрын

Good job not holding 5 women accountable for their choices

@milkshrekpasta

3 ай бұрын

​@@ShaunHensley its both people's fault. Like the video said, women are the ones who have to face the consequences of casual sex due to biology. Why didn't the guys just use protecttion?

@shawndyer8140

3 ай бұрын

Well said.

@Susanrogers-pt9mf6hx1w

3 ай бұрын

Common sense not so common

@Tate525

3 ай бұрын

​@@milkshrekpastaHow about not sleeping with straight up criminals?

This 1h40m interview was uploaded 7 minutes ago, and already there are people posting that are either strongly agreeing or disagreeing with it.

@scottydoesntknow6901

5 ай бұрын

You don’t watch things at 1000x speed? Pfft. Pleb.

@euphegenia

5 ай бұрын

naturally

@KM-hk8tc

5 ай бұрын

Probably because they know their comments are most likely to be viewed now or never. Hi everyone happy holidays from my wife and I!

@bestmoshpits156

5 ай бұрын

Thumbnail police

@AmateurHuman19

5 ай бұрын

I see this all the time with YT videos now.... My only conclusion is that people are only reacting to the THUMBNAIL. It saddens me because then reasonable people get baited into responding to a vapid comment. I love comments but even I have to admit they're getting worse every year.

In society of overly competitive individuals, there is no room for love and compassion.

@lakecityransom

3 ай бұрын

Everybody wants to rule the world.

@budrickalso

3 ай бұрын

That’s pretty insightful

@JordanSlaymaker-ls7nh

2 ай бұрын

Not always true. There is competition within effective collaboration, and collaboration in effective competition. It's nuanced.

@marikishtar

2 ай бұрын

​@@JordanSlaymaker-ls7nhNot really, people always look down to others who they deem inferior or weak. This is why society has a harsh stigma around incels

@JordanSlaymaker-ls7nh

2 ай бұрын

Never mentioned incels bud 😂 basically what I'm getting at us this. Within any "effective" competition of any sort, collaboration is necessary, however you view the people above and below your current status. Additionally, any collaborative effort, of any kind, will have competitive elements within. It's human nature. Then it's up to us to CHOOSE, how we view and treat those around us. There are several people ik personally who say time and time again, who genuinely mean it, that they despite all of their success have found no greater joy than finding someone "beneath" them whether it be socioeconomically, socially, or any other area of life they excel in and teaching them what they have learned.

The part where she talked about the “All Or Nothing Marriage” really struck a chord with me. It seems like everyone I’ve ever tried to date expected me to be perfect in every way and I never was up to snuff for them, and so they never gave me a shot at a long term relationship.

@garythomas4936

2 ай бұрын

You are really quite fortunate, whether you believe it or not: AVOID WOMEN!

@Foomanlol

25 күн бұрын

​@@garythomas4936avoid marriage. Hard to avoid women entirely.

men don't want to fight and die for a country that hates them

@lonewolf18650

4 ай бұрын

Nope

@DrewPicklesTheDark

3 ай бұрын

People realize all modern wars (and even many past ones) are to protect the financial interests of an international clique, not freedom and democracy, or whatever other excuse of choice a regime uses.

@elgenerico6263

3 ай бұрын

Nope. Everyday, working class men are more willing to die for their country in countries that are dictatorial and oppressive towards them.

@rogerramjet6429

3 ай бұрын

Same applies to the men vs women chemistry and the level of entitlement women make, while claiming that they "deserve" everything on an impossible list What they have want, DOES NOT EQUAL, what they deserve.

@user-cn6ql2wz6f

2 ай бұрын

What about the opposite?

True story in my family. My grandma was known to be the most beautiful woman who also had the prettiest hair in the village. Her friends essentially convinced her to bleach her hair because it would've made her look better. This resulted in her having to cut off most of her hair...They then laughed at her and called her stupid for falling for it.

@_zantetsuken_

5 ай бұрын

"friends"

@ryanfairfoot263

5 ай бұрын

I can believe that. She was a threat so they sought to bring her attractiveness down. This is also happening in entertainment. Anecdotally, I was invited to bring gifts to a baby shower. Problem being I'm male. I pointed this out and was rounded on. As it being female only is not a thing anymore. I brought said gift and was repaid with mockery and laughter and had it pointed out that baby showers are a female affair. Lesson learnt. Trust your life experience, what your eyes see and your ears hear. Beware of gas lighting

@D3sdinova

5 ай бұрын

​@@ryanfairfoot263those people sound cruel and mildly evil.

@Colton-wz5sh

5 ай бұрын

@@ryanfairfoot263literally delete them

@choppergirl

5 ай бұрын

@@D3sdinova You just described most of humanity.

A very recent UK study showed that the #2 thing that cured female anxiety/depression was quitting full time work. For men the #1 thing that cured anxiety/depression was finding full time work.

@PatrikLooft

3 ай бұрын

citation? very interesting!

@130rne

3 ай бұрын

Citation is all of human history.

@jayl9729

3 ай бұрын

Meaningful work. My work is meaningless and makes me anxious and depressed. And I feel like a significant portion of white collar jobs provide very little meaning.

@taragonleaf8005

3 ай бұрын

@@jayl9729 For me, meaningful work is the type that allows me to provide for my family. The job itself doesn't NEED meaning in and of itself, for me anyway. but it the job itself has its own meaning, that's good too. There will always be monotony in daily life, but if you assign a meaning to it, it will become meaningful. My wife went from hating cooking to enjoying it because instead of a laborious chore, it because providing warmth, welcome, and nutrition of her children and husband.

@marcusramirez3436

3 ай бұрын

man doing his tradtional role,, women doing their traditional role.. wow groundbreaking. so add one more acceptable option woman wants to pay for her own stuff not have a man pay for her stuff..thats ok too. they used to cal them lesbians and thats ok too.

1:06:30 "The blast radius of that signal"😂😂 Perfect way of putting it

@TheeeDannyD

Ай бұрын

Yeah that made me laugh. So true.

Honestly, in order to have a stable and thriving culture, you need men and women who are actually strong willed, responsible, and self accountable. If society destroys those pillars then it all collapses

@stevec3526

5 ай бұрын

Men and women have to be able to work together. This isn’t happening.

@larkop6504

5 ай бұрын

The destruction of traditional society in the UK has been by design since WW2. You are absolutely correct about responsibility and accountability, there is very little of both in Western society. I moved to Asia were its against the law to damage someone's public image, the young have huge respect for their elders and the majority have families in there early 20s. Society is booming and full of life. It's truly sad to see my home been turned on it's head and people still not seeing or acting upon how much we are being manipulated by government.

@Aerdellosi

5 ай бұрын

(((all according to plan)))

@TheDionysianFields

5 ай бұрын

Why strong willed?

@hobgoblin9339

5 ай бұрын

@@TheDionysianFields those without a strong will lack conviction, those without conviction lack purpose. those who lack purpose live in the most despair as their despair is silent, even to themselves.

Wow, what a breathe of fresh air when a women talks about modern dating in a logical and statistical approach with zero intent of throwing either groups under the bus. We need more of these women in the front lines talking about societal issues.

@Saberdud

5 ай бұрын

Those women who do not tow the sisterhood line will get slandered and labeled pick me, you can't deviate from the hive mind without consequences.

@amandaforrester7636

5 ай бұрын

​@@Saberdudif you're not called a pick me, you're called "unhealthy" or a "prude". I've said many of the things she's said.

@Feraeond

5 ай бұрын

She's definitely still selling men short though. Even if selective correlations of low testosterone and low crime at certain times in certain areas wasn't falsely seen as causative, as opposed to something like low self-control from bad upbringings for example, it still shouldn't even be a question that reducing society to complacency through the destruction of male ambition and innovation is not a worthwhile tradeoff.

@hyperteleXii

5 ай бұрын

Deviating from a self-destructive hivemind has constructive consequences. Yes, there will be pain in the short-term. But at least you'll survive *EXTINCTION.* Might be worth considering.

@amandaforrester7636

5 ай бұрын

@@hyperteleXii extinction? Interesting choice of words.. I'm 36, single, childless. I want a family but can't get past a 1st or, at best, 2nd date anymore, because men have the same expectations as women, that you will throw yourself at them quickly "if you really like them." Sir, how can I know you after only two dinners that only lasted a few hours??? No, I should've been a single mother. At least I'd have a child.

One of the topics she discusses is chivalry, and she believes that we should never have abandoned it; it should have remained an ongoing institution. However, this notion presents challenges because chivalry was a system that imposed obligations on both men and women. It constituted a framework of mutual obligations, where men had duties towards women, and women had responsibilities towards men. The idea that women had to be chaste, modest, and virtuous was integral to this system. Without women participating in this system, chivalry would not function effectively, as it would devolve into a one-sided arrangement resembling exploitation, where men are obligated to women without reciprocal benefits for themselves.

@frikabg

3 ай бұрын

they ALWAYS talk about the part that MEN have to do and perform and never talk about the things taht women have to do and fix. Its always 'women's lives are so hard! Men should do X in order to fix this because women are in trouble!' which is hilarious because the reason we are where we are is because we listened to women giving them what they want and fixing their problems.... The huge majority of women I would say 99% don't know what they want or what will make them happy! The proof can be see everywhere right now in this day and age. The idea that we should listen to women as disrespectful as it sounds is ridiculous...

@matthewr3986

2 ай бұрын

Right she does. But of course doesn't acknowledge who really killed it. Answer Women. Women killed it. They have the society they helped shape.

@swetsTV

2 ай бұрын

this is nonsense.

@eod9910

2 ай бұрын

@@swetsTV how is this nonsense that's not an argument

@raytracer5726

2 ай бұрын

They talk about chivalry all the time - but men in the past would never court a +30 year old single mother with an attitude and a body count higher then John Wick.

We talk our selves in circles , it's very simple. TV and social media are the biggest factors in influencing young people especially young women

@watchdog6619

17 күн бұрын

Yeah,...sure....only women....🙄

The reason for drop in lgbt acceptance is that messaging went from live and let live to being endlessly pushed and shoved onto people. And the line kept being pushed into ever more ludicrous territory. Plus No tolerance or grace in the other direction. Even kids and teenagers got sick of it.

@hieug.rection1920

5 ай бұрын

It followed the exact trajectory the Christians said it would. Live and let live turned into trans and pedophilia real quick and eroded the family and societal morality. Almost like it’s happened before in Greece and Rome! Weird that!

@transitionsnc

5 ай бұрын

Completely agree.

@MC-dn8if

5 ай бұрын

Being straight is now an act of teenage rebellion

@gumdeo

5 ай бұрын

The true nature of the movement is being revealed.

@grannyannie2948

5 ай бұрын

I agree. Homosexuals are 3% of the population. And yet today they make up 30% of every movie, novel or TV series. There's nothing left for heterosexuals. I think if the same sex marriage vote was repeated in my country, knowing what we know now, it would be overwhelmingly rejected.

I stopped hormonal birth control after 4 years and the only thing I have noticed is the depression went away immediately. No more suicidal thoughts. Other than that, nothing changed. But I am glad I am no longer chronically depressed.

@stevecooper7883

4 ай бұрын

That's a pretty big "only thing" 😅

@theshwomp625

3 ай бұрын

That's a HUGE thing. You could have just as easily not be alive.

@Pcastagnaro

3 ай бұрын

I am happy for you, thanks for sharing

@Tight--LiNeZ

3 ай бұрын

There's a price to pay for everything. There are no free lunches anywhere in the universe. So there's bound to be a large price to pay for subverting something as fundamental as one's reproductivity and getting to have unprotected sex to your heart's content.

@ajantje6482

3 ай бұрын

Same! I was a mess for years, emotional breakdowns, depression, manic behaviour and suicidal. Stopped using the pill and all psychological problem were gone within a month.

I like how this almost feels like a serious conversation at a coffee shop. Incredibly deep topics, occasional whispers

I disagree on why young men are becoming more conservative. I believe it's due to the schools including universities, social media and regular TV continually bashing on men that they have fully pulled back.

@Ashnesss

11 күн бұрын

LOL no. South Asian men are more conservative than their fathers and at times, their grandfathers. The reason is insecure sense of self and lack of identity. The media isn’t only to blame. Because the 10% of men who are not conservative, but liberal, also don’t display insecure sense of self or lack of identity, and have far better chances with women.

As an 85 year old retired aerospace engineer, I was brought up with "traditional family values". That is to say, I expected to one day marry a girl, we would start a family, she would stay at home and take care of the children and the housekeeping, and I would go out and work to support our family. I do believe that in today's world, that has become increasingly difficult to do, what with the rise in the cost of living. Of course, back then we lived in a modest old house which had only one bathroom, no a/c, etc. Property taxes and utilities on our first house were also low/affordable. And we had only one car that was quite old. Women didn't have oral contraceptives. So we were careful. OTOH, my children got married later than I did. But their standard of living is much higher than what I first experienced, what with multiple cars, larger and much more modern houses, children who have to be driven to their after-school activities, etc. So it's all much more expensive now. Are they happier now? That's the question, isn't it.

@georgeyoung92

4 ай бұрын

Yes, the quantity and quality of relationships has decreased greatly. Neighbors dont talk or visit, strangers are feared, very few conversations or actual teaching of one's kids, etc.

@TheFriendlyPsychopath.

4 ай бұрын

As a gainfully employed Aerospace engineer A.E.E.M. Degree employed as a Aerodynamics analyst CFD level 2,what does stating your occupation have anything to do with what you said?!

@jasonriek1986

4 ай бұрын

@@TheFriendlyPsychopath. It’s showing status and what the person was happy with despite their relatively prestigious role. It adds weight to the person’s words. Why did you feel the need to highlight this?

@TheFriendlyPsychopath.

4 ай бұрын

@@jasonriek1986 I’m an aerospace engineer as well, aerodynamic CFD level 2. A 85 year old man stating a job title from 20 years ago has nothing to do with the video.

@shadowsketch926

4 ай бұрын

@@TheFriendlyPsychopath. to a degree it does: it shows perspective, to a degree, level of intelligence, and they finish it off with a good question, after mentioning the level of standard they saw in their own life and then the one from their children. maybe it was to stroke their own ego a bit, but let someone have their little moment would you, it's not like it hurt the overal point.

My sister (a Catholic) has told me that there's a word for women who use cycle tracking as birth control. That word is "Mom".

@ChickFenwick

5 ай бұрын

We need to keep birth control. And improve upon it.

@glassjester

5 ай бұрын

My (Catholic) response: That's supposed to be the goal.

@gasma113

5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@Jikrin

5 ай бұрын

​@@ChickFenwickNo one will ever improve it because big pharma benefits from all of the medical detriments.

@DarthRadical

5 ай бұрын

@@glassjester As she has 7 kids, she'd likely agree. (She's a doctor - so she knows the math. And they can afford 7 kids.)

I have to say that listening this woman speak is so refreshing, even men disagree with me when I say: "Live in the world as it is, not as it should be."

@garythomas4936

2 ай бұрын

The world as it is today: “AVOID women!” Or, learn the hard way.

@forctis4672

2 ай бұрын

This is a great quote

This is the first time I have heard of Louise; she is very articulate and intelligent. Watching her explain some of these issues that I was completely oblivious to was a pleasure. I wholeheartedly agree with her take and am lucky to be the very last generation to grow up before smartphones became mainstream for teenagers. I am also lucky to be happily married for about 16 years to a woman who is definitely more traditional.

@garythomas4936

2 ай бұрын

Today: AVOID WOMEN!

@nowyouseeme3402

2 ай бұрын

​@@garythomas4936 but would you say that view further feeds the cycle?

I find it interesting that we blame the institution of marriage and not the people married. Marriage requires those in it assume maturity, selflessness, and regard for the other which are traits not seen in our society at present. So what we really have are people who cannot rise to the standards of marriage, not that marriage is outdated or no longer necessary.

@Andrea-zm1nl

5 ай бұрын

Thank you! This is what I've been saying for twenty years. The people who are eighteen to twenty-five, are less and less mentally and emotionally mature than ever before in human history. This is why marriage fails so frequently and why there are so many children in single parent homes. So thank you.

@xazarl3381

5 ай бұрын

@@Andrea-zm1nl nah up to 35 or 40 not 25 lol.

@moldyzucchinis3251

5 ай бұрын

Very well said and sums up an inkling I’ve had for a while. My wife and I never stop evolving to be better for each other. Marriage is about effort, responsibility, accountability, reliability, and selflessness. I’ll be the first to say I fall short in all of these regards, but I will never stop growing and becoming better. From what I see in the world today, others don’t want to do that reflection but rather be accepted however flawed and rigid they are.

@YegRon

5 ай бұрын

Well said!

@jelkel25

5 ай бұрын

I think because of the reasons you gave marriage needs to be changed from it's current form. Something needs to be done to reemphasize the seriousness of the course of action being taken before, not after. Perhaps both parties sit down with separate lawyers and negotiate the contract with real consequences for breaking it? Do the hard-nosed real world stuff first and then get married in the eyes of God or however suits both of you. This would at least wheedle out a few bad actors and those who don't really have a clue what they are doing.

RE: The military not being able to recruit. I'm a second gen veteran. Many guys of my age were sons of multi generational veterans. Many of the guys I served with in the Army were also from a long line of veterans, many dating back to the Revolutionary War. There is not one single fellow veteran I know, even the multi generational guys, that want their kid/s to join the military. Endless war/deployments, Anthrax vaccine, C word vaccine, Gulf War Syndrome, Burn Pit issues, Agent Orange, the list goes on and on. We didn't sign up to be the world's police. We signed up because we loved our country.

@christopherwhull

2 ай бұрын

One thing the military could do is extend the entry ages to match the demands practical average position. The loss of the endless chain of 18 year old's is gone. Mid career 40 year old Males and Females can deal with the supply chain, the item that wins wars by all accounts, moving of arms is on pallets for the past 100 years, I do not get the PT requirements for the middle of the force that might get 3 days on the rifle range during an entire career. If I could have entered the officer core at age 40 or just drive a truck with my life experiences the war fighters could focus on kinetic proficiency, and I can deal with the logistics chain without being x5 the price as a contractor. That is the skill I have been doing for 25 years, getting x to y at time z.

@hia5235

2 ай бұрын

Good this is the only way to stop the US from being forced into endless wars Thank these kids.

@garythomas4936

2 ай бұрын

Let women/trans join the military!

@Rkenton48

2 ай бұрын

I did two stretches in the Marines. First in peace time. Did my six (2 on, 4 res), got my benefits. Second, 12th of September. You know which year. Amazed at such a small turnout. Little more than 2 dozen at the recruitment ctr. Loved BT the second time round. Knew exactly what to expect. Could laugh at the kids who didn't. "10 miles! But it's raining!" "Okay, we'll make it 20." Kids.

@Rkenton48

2 ай бұрын

@@garythomas4936 Let!!?? Conscript. Go directly to front lines.

Pretty cute when Chris didn’t know what “Goop” is and she didn’t quite catch that he was lost.

wow this is neither feminist or misogynistic, just straight up facts and smart rational people discussing about things.

@joannetilly4586

3 ай бұрын

sliding on the surface....

@RedWaterGlow

Ай бұрын

Love that!

@watchdog6619

17 күн бұрын

Appart from him defending Nazi methods, interesting indeed.

I have 40 years with my wife three great kids never much money partly because went self-employed to deliberately be able to pick up and take kids to school, swimming, basketball, gymnastics, netball, days out. Best days of my life still have great relationships with wife and kids and I thank God for all of it.

@Mandragara

3 ай бұрын

If you hadn't married, but still done all of those other things, what would have been different?

@sUmEgIaMbRuS

3 ай бұрын

​@@MandragaraIf they hadn't married, they probably wouldn't have done all those things. I'm in the 5th year of my marriage and we have a 6 month old baby. Let me tell you, if we hadn't deliberately made it difficult for us to break up, we would've done it multiple times, and for really stupid reasons at that. I'm grateful to my past self for making that decision, for without it I wouldn't know the sheer euphoria of looking into my son's eyes and seeing his face turn into a wide grin. The emotional depth of my relationship with my wife also grew with each low point that we managed to get over.

@stephenryan7698

3 ай бұрын

If you mean if I was in a partnership instead of marriage then nothing. But a marriage in England still gives more security by law for a woman. A committed partnership in principle is no different to a marriage.@@Mandragara

@frankdehaan9640

3 ай бұрын

This is so frustrating to me... I don't get why people that are religious always have to thank god for everything. My man, it's YOU that done all of this, it's YOU that brought up a nice family. Please explain to this non believer why god has ANYTHING to do with how your life has run it's course? Maybe you are just a good person my man.. You can't attribute that to god, because we are all created equal right? So why are you happyly married for 40 some years, and the devorce rate is like 50%+ ? I can go on and on with examples but i hope you get the point. PLEASE MY MAN stop attributing everything good in your life to god, and take some fucking satisfaction out of how YOU made your life good. That is all. lol.

@stephenryan7698

3 ай бұрын

I understand what your saying but my faith is in Jesus not religion and only when I found faith did I start to change from being a drug addict liar, thief etc. It really did change my life around thats why I thank God. I was an atheist and would have reacted with stronger sentiments then you, so I know where your coming from.@@frankdehaan9640

I’ve never been a fan of dating on the apps, but it’s become so prevalent. I was literally on Tinder for a week and then uninstalled the app. I didn’t like the feelings I got from it. I’m glad I was able to meet my partner organically.

@ronnie5329

5 ай бұрын

Is it because you are unable to see the intention of ppl that you match/write with. As me, as a man, dating apps left me feeling invisible, so I am most likely average looking. I am however very good at making women interested in me, if I meet them in real life.

@kintsugi571

5 ай бұрын

I left dating apps because even though they damaged my self-esteem and even though they wasted my time, I became a little addicted to them, they created desperation in me and that desperation attached me to them. In apps, what most women do is collect attention either from those who really want to know them or from those who want to have sex with them, sometimes the women find a guy they are very interested in there, this women think they can create reciprocated love between them through sex, it doesn't work and this women get frustrated. Outside of apps, these toxic behaviors are not so common.

@jayjaydubful

5 ай бұрын

If used well, dating apps are a wonderful development. Meeting people organically simply doesn't happen for most people, especially once you are passed peak dating/meeting age or are widowed/separated/divorced and perhaps are more limited in your social life through having children.

@ronnie5329

5 ай бұрын

@@jayjaydubful Depending on the dating app, its almost mostly good for women in their 20s and early 30s and good looking men, at least in terms of opportunities. The data will show you that. For women it can be hard to filter and see who is serious, so its not all sunshine and rainbows. And it can give them an urealistic idea of who their match is, when there are some of the biggest horndogs who is good looking, who is dipping in to avg looking women pool to have easy sex. Around 20% of population have this extreme sex drive, so they are on there for that.

@kintsugi571

5 ай бұрын

@@jayjaydubful Many users are toxic and on the other hand I have almost no matches because I guess I don't attract attention, it does not seem that I have the option to use the app well or badly, for me it is simply a waste of my time. So I guess some people can know people on dating apps and some people don't. I know many men with an experience like mine on those apps, those apps are a waste of time for the average man, the average man hardly gets a conversation and if you do it will most likely end in ghosting. It's no one's fault, it's just that in those apps most women receive too much attention and most men are invisible, I understand that reality works like that, but it's more exaggerated there... so for the average man those apps are just as useful as having 24/7 audio telling you "You are invisible, it is not worth it for anyone to know you, you are an average man and therefore you will be just as visible as a homeless: invisible" @jayjaydubful Enjoy that you can achieve something positive with those apps, but don't say that everyone can do it because it is simply not true because many of us do not have that possibility. I understand that many people are worse in life (like homeless people) off so why complain, I will live my life as I can and of course stay away from those apps

As a man, I can confirm that hints do not work on me. All of my relationships have started with the girl or her friend telling me they are interested. I have never approached a stranger in a bar either.

@anthonylulham3473

4 ай бұрын

Oh I don't see subtlety either. She's smiling at me, guess I'll smile back. I'm glad she's having a nice day. *leaves*

@svennmivedor9191

3 ай бұрын

@@anthonylulham3473FACTS, I remember being in the gym with a friend and some random woman just comes up to me, looks me straight in the eyes is just completely smiling and asks me what I’m doing. I just look at her and tell her “it’s leg day” and she’s waiting for more and I go back to my work out 🤣🤣

@SolidSnakeEater

2 ай бұрын

Every relationship I had was on bar/clubs and meeting on the streets. I don't like when girl know too much my people at the beginning. If it's go bad she can destroy my reputation. Sorry for my English I'm French.

@ryzikx

Ай бұрын

@@anthonylulham3473 doesn't matter. because there's a good chance they are really just being only friendly. better safe than sorry

This discussion was fascinating to me. Nice to see people talking about emotional issues with a calm disposition.

I feel the negative role of social media was overlooked as a contributing factor to young people having less desire to see romance in films. Social media has been and is a large contributor to the problems we're seeing in relationships between men and women. Our youth are well aware of this and don't want to be bombarded with another unrealistic representation that few of them will experience in their lives. They know it's fiction, yet they don't want to be slapped in the face with another unachievable expectation as they see on their social media everyday. I don't claim any expertise, yet this is the first thing that came to mind when this question was raised and I felt it was relevant to mention. The negative impacts of social media on all parts of society never fail to amaze me. Food for thought.

@TheFriendlyPsychopath.

4 ай бұрын

What does that actually feel like?!🤔

@CosmicAeon

4 ай бұрын

Take any social issue and it's a pretty safe bet that social media is a major contributing factor in fucking it up. Their algorithms actively promote the most toxic, hateful, idiotic comments and viewpoints and are spreading division and hate completely unchecked, and nobody in society seems to care.

@user-hd8sz5wv4h

4 ай бұрын

I'm of the strong belief that social media is the #1 cause of the destruction of the fabric of society! The reason romance and small gestures like giving A girl flowers are now topics of resentment among the younger generations! Is t social media and dating apps have essentially turned everyone into legal stockers! Someone's profile can summarize information on them. That used to take 2-3 dates A handful of late-night phone calls to gather. That would either make you more interested or less interested in your dating interest! So now all the work of getting to know someone , the time dedicated to finding out if your compatible. Has been widdeled down to A few minutes. Essentially as corporate America would put it is that they've made dating more Efficient. What we've learned about efficiency is that yes it seems to be more productive in one sense. But quality always seems to go down, and the value of human workers being now expendable/replaceable are becoming less and less necessary! Looking at it in those terms. We've taken something that's supposed to be hard work and time dedicated to finding achieving and keeping A relationship. Has become an inefficient waste of our time! Time we should be dedicating to fattening the pockets of corporation's instead. Corporation's who created these apps and every other kind of sexually pleasurable toys etc etc... So you no longer need human to human intimate relationships. Cause they're to time consuming, and time your spending on trying to find and keep A loving relationship with someone. Is time your not spending being A cog in the in America's corporate system of consumerism. So unbeknownst to everyone these corporation's design and develop more "Efficient" I.E. less time consuming, less expensive, cost effective way for you to find your special someone! Basically dating these days is like shopping for A new pair of shoes. You don't like one pair? Well that's OK cause there's A see of millions of other shoes/women/men for the user to choose from at the swipe of A finger! Making dating this transactual thing that dehumanizes the opposite sex into replaceable products. That's why the majority of profile pictures you see on dating and social media. Are of people posing in the most revealing provocatively suggestive ways! Showing themselves in ways that aren't normal for them. Cause subconsciously everyone knows that that picture is the introduction to their profile. So if they want people to visit their profile they've gotta be sexualy alluring. Even though this picture is one of 100 others taken and photoshopped to completely manipulate your appearance. Just to beetout the profile pics on either side of yours to hopefully enhance your chances of finding love! So by making you insecure, and less confident in yourself. That your own self respect diminishes to the point that you become so desperate for someone to validate your sexuality. That you'll display yourself like meat! Hoping that that is going to be what brings you any kind of meaningful relationship. Then months later wonder why the relationship didn't work! Well it didn't work because there's no time energy and work put into building A relationship. Exploiting yourself sexually for the world to see and judge every lil character flaw. Picking apart not just your appearance but you as A person. I think we can all agree that, Every person male or female knows when someone is checking them out! Who doesn't like feeling attractive? Now consider that you don't know what kinds of people are being sexually attracted you. I know when someones looking at me because they think im pretty. I also know when someone whos looking at me is undresing me with their eyes and imagining all the pervy sick sadistic things they want to do to me! We al know that uncomfortable feeling. That feeling that makes us look for recording devices when in public restrooms! Out of fear of being violated and humiliated for somebodies sick voyeuristic pleasures! Yet we'll then post these sexualy suggestive provocative photos of ourselves in hopes of attracting anyone but A sexual deviant! The logic behind it all is fucking ridiculously unrealistic! Like Porn star's expecting to be treated like anything other than A sexual toy for other peoples pleasure! You chose your profession, now you wana wonder why your being followed home by pervs expecting you to be who you portray yourself as in your movies! Or you wonder why the other parents at your kids school never invite you to helpout with afterschool functions. No matter how conservative you dress and portray yourself to be outside of the movie set! Your always going to be seen as A sex worker and A threat to their marriages and to the sexual innocence of their children! If you want something of substance in your life. Modesty is sexier than A naked body that everyone/anybody can see. Relationships are two sided. They dont revolve entirely around you and what you think they should be. Just because you don't always agree doesn't mean it has to end in A power struggle fight with one person eventually submitting to the other in an never ending I'm right your wrong dynamic! And you can't expect that someone's going to check all your expectation boxes! Cause news flash you won't check all there's either! Intact having A checklist of people's characteristics is not only demeaning to your partner. Putting pressure on them to somehow live upto some ridiculously unrealistic standard of expectations. Instead of allowing them to just be themselves. Is only going to create for you A fake superficial relationship that's more for show than anything cause it's based on lies! Go out into the world and meet someone in person. It's literally the only way of knowing if your truly compatible. Profiles lie to make themselves seem like better candidates. But most importantly you cannot sense somebody's pheromones through an electronic device. Pheromones are biologically what relationships really boil down to. You can have all the chemistry in the world online. Talk for hours and actually develope an emotional heartfelt loving connection to someone. Be completely sexually attracted and turned on by this person. All the way up to the point of finally meeting in person. Then for reasons you can't identify be completely ad utterly turned off by them! It's not they're fault they've done nothing wrong. But you just are not attracted to their biological makeup, and really there's nothing you can do to change that. But its something that we as A species have no control over! Long story not so short ditch the apps, devices, and any other form of dehumanizing displays of yourself for others to vote on. As viable ways to find that special someone! All this technology is only driving us farther and farther apart. And creating new opportunities for corporate America to create even more products, solutions, medications, professions etc etc to supposedly help others fill that void! It's A viciously Neverending cycle of situations and solutions that only ever seem to make problems worse In the long-run or creat even more issues. So they can then create more ineffective solutions! The only common factor is that the 1% are always profiting off us! Wether we die or live and especially our happiness mean absolutely nothing to them......

@charlespancamo9771

4 ай бұрын

If they see it on their social media everyday then clearly it is quite acheivable

@rRekko

4 ай бұрын

​@@charlespancamo9771 it would be if it were true. Social media is filled to the brim with fake people showing the best parts of their life, the highlights, which are also often manipulated to look like good things. People on social media don't show when they're down or the ugly side of their life unless they are searching for pity points. Social media leads you to believe beauty in all "body types" (from being fat to being morbidly obese being seen as beautiful) yet they won't show you how some of the major influencers of the movement have died at a very young age because of their lifestyle. Social media will show you girl boss queens who don't need no man, but won't show you the ones who regret buying into the lie. It will show you trans and non binary in such a positive light, but won't show you why they came to that and what they suffer on a daily basis, as they are worshipped for being mentally ill instead of having them face reality. It won't show you all the ones regretting their transition and suffering or killing themselves over not being able to undo.

Women acknowledging we've gone too far and women actually actively doing something about it are two very different things. I think most women (over the age of 25ish, i.e. not a current brainwashed college kid and approaching/ past the wall) acknowledge our society has gone overboard with sex positivity, but aren't willing to shoulder the responsibilities and self control that come along with changing it. In short they demand they get to have their cake and eat it, too.

@asdfasdf-te8oc

5 ай бұрын

Yes. The 🧱 is an excellent teacher...

@Aerdellosi

5 ай бұрын

Or it just makes them bitter and they go and ruin other, younger women. I think for the millenials that'll probably be the case.@@asdfasdf-te8oc

@chipsteve

5 ай бұрын

Of course - they're FUBAR for relationships. You can't unsleep with people. For women, it's irreversible damage to their pair bond capacity. So of course they "won't take responsibility" for something that has damaged them forever.

@murat9268

5 ай бұрын

@@chipsteve They live today. They will endure pain future. They won't take responsibility, they will feel the consequences in the future. Women do not look for good men for anything, will look for them in desperation after her 30's. Problem of this paradigm is loneliness is more painful to women than men.

@famov666

5 ай бұрын

The women that marry, have kids, and have a generally positive outlook on life are "doing something about it" in exactly the way that should be expected of them. As are the men that marry them, of course. It's a two way street, because men also need to take responsibility for their role in the modern dating landscape. If you want quality, be quality. Those men that aspire to decency are likely to find a similarly decent woman that's worth their time and effort. Those that don't inevitably pollute comment sections and message boards with assorted bro-science about "pair bonding" and "hypergamy" in between 15 minute sessions of hardcore porn, all the while thinking that the women of the world collectively owe them something because all that swiping on Bumble hasn't quite worked out the way that they thought it would. Between the dusty cat ladies and the untouchable pornfiends, the solution to our dating woes necessitates far less resentment and finger pointing. It requires we take responsibility for ourselves, build ourselves up, and make an honest attempt at meeting the sort of people that we want to spend our lives with.

Loved this conversation, many points resonated with observations I've made and feelings I've had over the past 20 years growing up through these times.

Just stellar content. Every episode I've watched is incredibly thought provoking at the same time it entertains. Please keep up the work Mr. Williamson.

There are no solutions, just trade offs. Sounds like life in a nutshell. Great conversation!

@greg.ocallaghan

5 ай бұрын

Thomas Sowell

@kathycoleman4648

5 ай бұрын

@@greg.ocallaghan Yep. You beat me to it. :)

@ericjames7819

5 ай бұрын

Women expect to choose what they want without there being any consequences. Not trade offs.

@abaddon1371

5 ай бұрын

It is just a rephrasing of "when you choose one thing, there is another thing you didn't choose" And of course there are solutions. It depends on the situation and the question. It is by no means a catch all phrase.

@emperorsean1

5 ай бұрын

So what exactly is the trade off for men who can't get laid or meet partners?

Of course they're not happy. There are not enough top tier men for legions of average single women.

@chickenshit8213

5 ай бұрын

When you factor in the astonishing BMIs and the amount of debt that modern women have, the average of the average is plummeting as well. That's the additional problem. There's no incentive for top tier men to tie their wagons to any of these women or for average men to strive to become top tier. Most of these women offer nothing but problems

@2muchtalk173

5 ай бұрын

I love the street interviews of city girls that think guys have to make a 6-figure income to date them long term … 😂 … i’m glad i don’t live in a big city and have to deal with that kind of woman

@rtan8780

5 ай бұрын

@@2muchtalk173bruh I make around 180k a year and even that’s not enough these days lmao

@tomcoop9750

5 ай бұрын

Hypergamy

@2muchtalk173

5 ай бұрын

@@rtan8780 - dang man! Sorry to hear that. I’m not quite there but yet but feel your pain! Luckily i live in rural Mi with an amazing low maintenance woman 😊👌

Marriage has become too risky for men. What's handed over to women who need no great reason to dissolve the marriage is often wildly unfair and leaves him shackled financially to a woman who in all likelihood treats him like crap. The failure rate is huge. If you wanted to get marriage insurance there wouldn't be a company that would touch it

How refreshing to have a podcast with a depth of discussion. Well done both of you 👏🏻👍

She said it’s a hard choice between having men with healthy testosterone levels and men with low testosterone levels, because those with low tend to cause less crime and such. Imagine saying this about women and their fertility levels. It’s just crazy to think that our male youth is being thought of this way that as long as they’re not causing any issues, who cares what their health is.

@lunalane

4 ай бұрын

She isnt the brightest bulb.

@Cbd_7ohm

4 ай бұрын

Women aren't known for being the brightest.

@lavenderbambi3501

4 ай бұрын

@@Cbd_7ohmmen say shit like this and then wonder why women don't respect them

@xArsVivendi

4 ай бұрын

testosterone = aggressiveness is a fallacy anyway.

@Vivi_9

4 ай бұрын

@@lavenderbambi3501 this whole channel is dedicated to incel cope lol

Thank you for this truly open constructive conversation. As a german (male) student this feels like someone opening a window and letting fresh air in my mind, when so many students and professors are slowly digging their own wholes with their constructs and rules for moral behavior and thinking.

I feel that it is entirely up to the individual on what sort of life they want to lead when it comes to children. Some women would adore and thrive in a house wife/stay at home mom settings, some would not. I know a lot of women who would hate having kids. Their personalities aren't set up for them. They don't even want to be around kids of their friends. I enjoyed the conversation a lot. I just find it frustrating when someone seems to think one size fits all when it comes to social constructs.

@adhdunsupervised7800

2 ай бұрын

Love this comment ❤

@chrisa5631

2 ай бұрын

Civilizations die when people don't reproduce. There needs to be a structure. She is right.

@seraph...4473

26 күн бұрын

Ok so as ridiculous as it is for someone to disagree with this. I actually kind of disagree with this. I would like to ask you to take what im about to say as what its worth to you personally, and not as though I think its entirely true. So I think that there is alot of women who overhype how terrifying having kids really is, and undersell how fulfilling they can be. Ontop of that changing how some women view having kids, biologically, ALL WOMEN are desgined to desire having children, and we havent had enough modern time to evolve out of that yet (all though the pill has changed that somewhat). I think people look at having kids like its a responsibility and they rebel against feeling like something so terrifying is their responsibility. Especially when they culture of the west is to say that there is a solid chance they will have to raise those children alone. However, Imagine if some rich hot guy came up to alot of these girls and promised them financial, emotional, and physical saftey in return for having their children. Alot of these same girls would be much more open to that. So in my opinion I dont think its an issue of having kids not being for everyone. I think its for everyone (I actually believe almost everyone would enjoy kids, but im not saying thats true, that just what I believe) its just that the circumstances that most women are in are not "safe" enough to have kids, and therefore something biological tells them they dont want kids. Obviously that is a dramatically un-nuanced take but it gets my point across. I think anyone could enjoy kids in the right circumstances.

I love this episode, awesome conversation and such a good flow and humor. It's like you're childhood friends!

Thank you, Chris, for bringing back Louise Perry on your program. Of all the guests you have featured in the past, she is one of my favorites, and it is an absolute joy to hear from her again. The space where modern male/female relationships are analyzed has devolved so much into irrationality and acrimony. Its in such a contentious environment that calm and rational voices like Perry's are desperately needed. She has a rare gift of being able to deliver harsh truths, backed up by data, with elegance and grace. She is just a pleasure to listen to.

@shivrambarran5086

5 ай бұрын

Well said 👌🏽

@brianmeen2158

5 ай бұрын

Agree this was an hour and a half of greatness

@marccas10

5 ай бұрын

Ever hear the expression "strike while the iron's hot"?

@grannyannie2948

5 ай бұрын

I nearly scrolled past the thumbnail. I assumed it would be a clip from the previous interview. So glad I did not.

@Pseudothink

5 ай бұрын

(2:08) "We do clearly have free will..." I know a few physicists who would strongly disagree with this...

Watching this video has been surprisingly refreshing due to the simple fact that Louise was able to state her thoughts and opinions clearly, calmly, and thoroughly when asked to go into greater detail on a specific subject. It gets so exhausting listening to people who have only a cursory knowledge of the subject they are speaking about and have to resort to inflammatory tactics when their ideas cannot bear scrutiny. Thank you to both of you for this video.

@jonbaxter2254

5 ай бұрын

It's refreshing, isn't it?

@piscinaiv7937

5 ай бұрын

it's a nice hallmark of this channel in general honestly, very engaging interview style here.

@stevec3526

5 ай бұрын

And none of her opinions were questioned.

@joen8529

5 ай бұрын

Yeah… This guy isn’t that smart. Jock “wisdom” but he certainly has marketed himself well.

@pdcichosz

4 ай бұрын

What does 'inflammatory tactics' mean? I did check on google, returns med-related links ;)

You two have GREAT chemistry. Such a good interview

That description of all the conflicting marriage and relationship styles was very interesting because I feel the same way. Never heard It described that way before.

Love, marriage, and starting a family provides such a strong purpose in life. While it is not a path everyone needs to follow, it does provide a very meaningful life for those that do.

@Wong-Jack-Man

5 ай бұрын

I would say it can and usually has the propensity to but not an absolute truth. Tons of parents who do terrible jobs and tack on that fact that divorces are at 50% which means tons of children who will grow up in broken homes and experience some sort of attachment trauma. Then you have those who use starting family and children as a crutch to find purpose and discipline when it should be the other way around first then start a family.

@dogperson432

5 ай бұрын

Everyone does need to follow it *if possible.* It's not just another life choice.

@Laughing_Individual

5 ай бұрын

​@@Wong-Jack-Manthere's nothing wrong with having family as a purpose. A family is not an accessory. Most people build up themselves for the sake of having a family. Most people don't live to be wage slaves and hedonists.

@TechWeLove

5 ай бұрын

Until she rips your guts out in divorce court, and that of your children. Then your strong purpose in life went down the drain.

@dicerevo

5 ай бұрын

@@TechWeLove women are only able to do so because of the discriminatory way in which the law is enforced. Plus western society is pretty anti men, anti marriage, anti children even.

My husband and I have been happily married for 15 years. He is now the primary breadwinner and I take care of the kids and home. We have a happy and balanced life. It’s not perfect but both of us feel satisfied. I’m a very independent person and I had a great corporate career previously but the life we’ve built together is wonderful.

@bobbyjbear

5 ай бұрын

👏

@TheSulross

5 ай бұрын

my wife got to be in the home with the kids. As they got to teenage years she started up piano lessons again - for a number of years and then became a piano teacher too. She's touched the lives of many children by now. There have been some amazingly inately talented students along the way. Has been a great side business because she can throttle how many students she takes on so that she can have time for other things. Now there are grandchildren so got to have time for that :-) Me thinks you two took the optimal path.

@treacherousjslither6920

5 ай бұрын

How did you and your husband meet?

@KorisnickoIme84

5 ай бұрын

The only downside is costs of living are just gonna keep going up and paycheck will remain the same putting more stress on your husband and all of you causing more stress and conflicts..Todays economy doesn't allow that many stay at home moms..

@katiestevenson8920

5 ай бұрын

@@treacherousjslither6920 through mutual friends

Such a wonderfully civil and intelligent conversation. A glimmer of hope in the general darkening of public discourse. Please never stop making these!

@Krichnu

3 ай бұрын

Yeah because they are not zoomers you will see how bad it is in the future

@sUmEgIaMbRuS

3 ай бұрын

@@Krichnu Oh, come on! I've heard plenty of boomers and gen X-ers, and millennials perpetuating toxic discourse. Assigning all the blame to zoomers is exactly the kind of thinking that I mean by "the general darkening of public discourse" and what I praised Chris & Louise for _not_ taking part in.

@joshanonline

3 ай бұрын

It sounds intelligent, but anyone that has knowledge into this can see all the bs being spew. That woman, for example, is Projecting a LOT of things she believes or feels onto what other people might be thinking or believing. Things she doesn't know, things she has no data on and things she is completely incorrect. And she's supposed to be an expert. I bet there are some videos debunking this around. I rather watch those. They might actually have data to back claims and not just biased interpretations.

@Krichnu

3 ай бұрын

​@@joshanonline Dude you really are making a fool of yourself. You assume without evidence that she has no data and then you proceed to say that you "believe there is a debunking video" so that means you don't know anything about the subject since you need a debunking video that doesn't even exist.

Stunningly engaging and well informed interview, absolutely fascinating !

Modern women are winning but only in the immediate hedonistic sense. All the pleasure, all the fun, all the pursuit of self-gratification and chasing excitement is heavily tilted toward women. Where they lose, and it's extremely difficult to appropriately highlight the terrible losses because they're not immediate, is in the long term, over their lifetime. For biological reasons, women are handed unimaginable advantages in their youth. However, if squandered, if underappreciated, if misunderstood as to why and for how long these massive advantages exist, this results in what we're seeing with the sharp increase in the phenomena of cats and boxed wine: no family, no children, no purpose in life beyond feeling good in the moment. That only goes so far and will run out eventually.

@Yarblocosifilitico

5 ай бұрын

at least they're not oppressed anymore: they get to work until their elderly years like men traditionally did. Yay!

@AtheismF7W

5 ай бұрын

Just wait 10-20 more years to see real socio-economic consequences for all this.

@9770G

5 ай бұрын

Couldn’t have said it better myself Logan. If women aren’t happy with the current dating market, tell them to cry me a river because they’re the ones that created it.

@logoski589

5 ай бұрын

Just rapidly spending the wealth they were born with instead of investing it.

@bobthebuilderhecanbuildit

5 ай бұрын

more truths but what should we do about it? being bitter helps nothing

I loved being a mother! Best unpaid job I ever had. I also loved homeschooling. What an honor and privilege to develop the next generation of humanity!❤

@wyleecoyotee4252

5 ай бұрын

To what school level will you be homeschooling

@spiff1

5 ай бұрын

u get paid with having healthy children

@TheSulross

5 ай бұрын

amen - am husband to a wife that stayed in the home as the kids were growing up. Now there are grandkids. People are immensely missing out if they don't have a family and then invest in their kids - as opposed to warehousing them off to govt institutions to shape who they become

@sinesaii

5 ай бұрын

Home schooling groups are amazing. I have been so impressed by the diversity and kindness I have seen (Mormons and Muslims learning math, reading, science and each others’ faith).

@scionofdorn9101

5 ай бұрын

Did you have a hubby bringing home the bacon? Because if you did, your job as a mother wasn’t unpaid, it’s just that your pay was in the form of him putting a roof over your head, food on the table, clothes on your backs, the water and lights on, giving you kids to love and raise, and a bit of sex and romance when the occasion was right, etc. None of those things are free (no, not even sex and certainly not romance), all of them have a dollar cost, and if he was working a job to pay them, that’s how the cost of your motherly labors was being paid. And that, contrary to the rhetoric man-hating feminists, is not a bad thing at all. It’s how most men and women naturally function.

What an absolute amazing podcast this was, I have learned so much from Louise Perry who comes across as very knowledgeable and neutral on this topic. Thanks!

There is a rapidly growing number of young men with no prospects in life, nothing to do, and feel not just alienated, but outright attacked by their society. You know know what the inevitable conclusion of these conditions are. The bread and circus can only last so long.

Always blows my mind how women can have a monopoly on the dating matket, set the standard of said dating market, but incapable of fixing any problem or understand why they have problems in this market. It doesn't have to be perfect but to make no attempts at fixing it at all is just crazy

@jasonweishaupt1828

5 ай бұрын

Didn’t she say all teenage girls are mentally ill? 25% of US women are on head meds.

@planet_mogwai9310

5 ай бұрын

I think it's because (if I recall correctly it was mentioned toward the beginning of the video) have to most to lose, are the most at risk when making these changes in the dating market that people so desire. So realistically, women don't have a monopoly on the dating market, because 90% of the time if they make the wrong step, their lives are largely negatively impacted by it. This is where balance comes into play. If men, who are less at risk, implement change on standards in the market, and women ride the wave of the changes that actually work, you'll see change. That's my little hypothesis on it.

@LiteDnBFnatic

5 ай бұрын

@planet_mogwai9310 that goes for all markets though. Take Disney's current market for example: women, feminism and generally anti-tradional themes. Disney is also losing more money than they are producing because the original target audience that gave it money is not being catered to. You absolutely can lose a lot more of something if you have direct influence on it. I also disagree on the idea of women having more to lose. Because what they have to sacrifice if very minor compared to what men have to sacrifice to compete in. Nevermind maintaining your place in the market, just getting in already imbalanced. Even if there are men that have a firm place in, it's women who decide on which men stay.

@planet_mogwai9310

5 ай бұрын

@LiteDnBFnatic yeah I'd just have to disagree on that then. I'm not at all saying that women don't have a great influence. I'm saying risks in romantic pursuits are being taken by women because it is often times impacts their life. So influence or not, standards will remain the same because "if it ain't broke don't fix it" and it's not worth the downsides that come with pioneering into new territory. Dr. Hill, the Dr. That was referenced multiple times in this video, affirms this idea. Casting aside culturally harbored threats like sexual violence and domestic homicide, women's lives are put at much more risk just from the act of sex alone. Childbearing can result in death. Women are more likely to contract STDs from sex, even if they are in the same sexual pool as men. A woman's brain and body changes upon conception. None of these risks do men face nearly as much as women, hence why they are often risk takers in other avenues. So as I said earlier, I still think the solution is to have men set their own standards, and women follow the ones that present the least amount of risk and fosters a healthy environment.

@LiteDnBFnatic

5 ай бұрын

@planet_mogwai9310 we might be arguing different points then. You're argument is sexual risk. I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm arguing that before sex is even discussed, she's responsible for who she wants to be with in the first place. So if women raise the standard for men to be with them, fine, but to complain about no men being available because of the new standard is asinine. All I'm saying

I just saw a facebook group called “are we dating the same guy? Portland” I feel like this says a lot about the state of the modern dating game. So glad I’m happily married!!!

@o4pureh2o

5 ай бұрын

When so many women think they are in the top 10% and will only date a man they consider in the top 5% that means those few men have unlimited choices so often choose to be unlimited 😅

@brent4073

5 ай бұрын

@@o4pureh2o Seriously, most average men truly underestimate how delusional women are about their self worth. I've met 1's and 2's who no joke are chasing after guys who are 7's and 8's...

@andrewmackenzie325

5 ай бұрын

Yes, many groups with that title. The women are catching on that 95% of men are invisible and thr elite top tier dudes are getting most of the action. Hoe_math does great videos on this

@Opal5674

5 ай бұрын

​@@o4pureh2oI come from lower income part if the country and let m tell you these cheating men around here are top tier anything in looks or income yet they still cheat if they can find two wome within 50 miles that will have them. A lot of women have probably decided that if they are going to be cheated on by a low income 4 they might as well be cheated on by a higher income 7.

@AS-mm3wi

5 ай бұрын

"Oh that? No, no. That's, uh, my cousin...who is also named Bob Wilson. Definitely a family resemblance but that's not me. Oh, you have another pic? Yeah, uh...he, uh...he has the exact same tattoo. That's my crazy cousin. Always copying me!"

why can't we create a world where women (regardless of their inclination towards professional/personal life) can carry the life they want without the associated stress or prejudice that's being demanded of them just because of tradition? Societies change and progress, and so do the gender dynamics and their roles as a result. It's just a natural course of life! I run a company and that brings me joy and purpose. It's the society that's making my life harder as a woman to fit into roles that are otherwise expected of me. We probably could fit into those roles "if" society was built with more understanding towards different choices women make in their journey. I know a lot of entrepreneur women who are wonderful moms and run meaningful successful companies. Why would anyone want to take the latter away from them just because of tradition?

@RedWaterGlow

Ай бұрын

Agreed. The word "traditional" triggers me so hard, because I´m just not a house wife. I hate it. I wanna go to work, it´s fun!

@Anaximander9

7 күн бұрын

The continuation of Western feminism looks doubtful in the long term due to alarmingly falling birth rates. This may be viewed as progress on the individual level. However, for a society this is an evolutionary dead end.

First podcast on the channel I’ve listened to and what an absolute delight! Folding the laundry has never passed so quick 😅

These two have the greatest podcast chemistry. They are both self aware and also very intrigued with each other's perspectives. They both bounce and dare to think out loud without "having to be right". Good stuff!

@benstandard

5 ай бұрын

She's definitely attracted to him.

@joen8529

5 ай бұрын

@@benstandard He’s ok but he’s said some pretty dumbass things too in the past.

@joen8529

5 ай бұрын

“Wisdom.” Hahahahha 😂

@bulletguitar14

5 ай бұрын

@@benstandardI’m sure she is, but what does it matter at the end of the day. Most people that find themselves in relationships can find others attractive. It’s whether you act on it that can and will complicate things. Monogamy is a battle in itself unfortunately nowadays.

@svr5423

5 ай бұрын

She's bringing a lot of BS arguments, and he's not even picking that up. For example, about the "status of male spaces". Men want to become fighter pilots rather than kindergarden teachers because it's cool to fly an airplane, but it's a pain to be around children. It's not because it is a "high status male job".

In dating theory they often refer to meeting people via "warm" and "cold" approaches. Cold approach is they are a stranger (at a bar, via an app, etc.) and warm approaches are you share social circles (church, friends, etc.). Statistically, warm approaches more often lead to successful long term relationships, and this is still the case, even though fewer relationships start this way than they did in the past. This makes sense because there's already a stage of vetting. It's important your SO fits in with your social circles, shares your values etc., and typically warm approaches are selecting for these attributes at the forefront, at least at a much higher rate than cold approaches.

Such a fascinating conversation to listen to! Will definitely listen to more of her work.

This conversation depresses me. I have tried really hard to start a family for 7 years. Hasn’t quite worked yet, and it is so scary and I feel extremely disposable. Even if it were to work…I am not sure that would be a good thing at this point.

@CloudyWolf713

3 ай бұрын

Everything alright?

@NoahBird-rs7fq

3 ай бұрын

you're not disposable, keep your head up i hope everything is okay

@Saucylaw

3 ай бұрын

I’d encourage you to get a passport Jacob. Marriage is different in eastern culture!

@SickegalAlien

2 ай бұрын

Try travelling. Set a target and save up. Having a goal will make work more bearable. When you have enough, do a tour around countries with different cultures to your own, e.g. if you're white, go to Asia, middle east, Africa One of two things will happen. 1. You'll learn to love your home and go back 2. You'll find a place that really touched your soul and you'll want to stay

When it comes to modern dating, everyone loses.

@joeadler5379

5 ай бұрын

Except women.

@CAM-hc8ip

5 ай бұрын

​@@joeadler5379 Nah, they just lose later on. It varies by decade: 20s: Women > men 30s: Women = men 40s+: Men >>> women

@bro918

5 ай бұрын

You think the guys at the top dont win lol?

@AtheismF7W

5 ай бұрын

Guys at the top win, as they always have throughout history. Nothing really changed except that the station in life for average man and women is much better now.

@Ryan-wx1bi

5 ай бұрын

@@bro918 No, because they usually end up with the garbage women that use them for status/money. And I said MODERN dating, not dating in general. Still plenty of great relationships out there

"If a woman isn't feminine, it doesn't matter how much money he makes, she'll always find a way to disrespect him." Angry woman immediately begins with petty, completely uncalled-for disrespect. What a joke. Protect yourself at all times, gentlemen.

@georgeyoung92

4 ай бұрын

narcissists and other controlling women need to dominate a man to feel secure that he will give her what she wants. Amber Heard is a good example.

My wife and I fulfill traditional gender roles in our family and it works wonderfully. I'm a sufficiently well-earning engineer and she gets to stay home with the children. We discussed what would give both of us the most happiness and sense of accomplishment in life, and for her, staying at home and raising the children was her highest priority. My highest was protecting and providing for my family by working a job that could pay enough without having to work overtime. My wife also expressed a desire to do something that wasn't just child-focused and that would use her English degree, so we decided that she could spend whatever free time she had while I was away to continue writing and freelance editing. My next highest desire was to love and teach my children in the home, so when I come home from work I always do my best to spend time with the kids to give her a break. It works wonderfully! We don't have the most money, the biggest house, the hottest bodies, or the most exciting lives, but we have lots of love, fun, and respect for each other and it totally makes life worth the struggle.

@xuvial1391

4 ай бұрын

That's an incredibly ideal situation for 1 person to be able to earn enough to pay all the bills, mortgage, etc. Most people aren't in that situation.

@TheSonOfDumb

4 ай бұрын

Quite envious of you mate.

@calmhorizons

4 ай бұрын

A privileged position that is impractical for average individuals in the current capitalist mode i.e. whereby the desire for cheap labour has driven wages through the floor.

@toneranger

3 ай бұрын

Thanks to you your wife gets the best of both worlds: no boss, no targets, no clock ins, no deadlines and she gets to pursue her dreams and stay at home while the kids are in school and see them grow up, and your kids come home to a mother, priceless, she won big time. Men are underappreciated in society for this daily sacrifice.

@Sophia.871

3 ай бұрын

My husband and I live a tradional lifestyle as well. It is so fulfilling. We both feel supported, secure and happy. Our children have both parents and we both devote our spare time exclusively to having experiences and quality time as a family. We have well behaved children who behave because they respect and love us. We are a strong, successful and united couple. . It saddens me when I see people trashing a way of life that has worked for a centuries. Women and men are shamed for our strengths and differences. Many people blind to the benefits of this lifestyle and have been far less successful in the pursuit of happiness. Men and women are not equal. We are different, we have different strengths and weaknesses . Neither is superior or more valueable than the other. In my family we embrace this and it creates a balance in our relationship. We all have a choice in how we want to live. The left needs to stop shaming people who are choosing to live in our gender roles. Abuse and coercive control seem to be the narrative with a traditional marriage. There is abuse in all kinds of relationships. Being traditional does not equate abuse, the perpetrator does. A modern traditional family makes decisions together, the husband invests in thier wives and children. They share household and childhood responsibilities and sometimes women work. This is not oppression.

I loved this conversation. nothing better than an open dialogue, no arguing, no sides. Just facts and observations

Brilliant. :) What a joy to listen to/watch. You guys' chemistry is great. I think.. you having Louise more frequently...in some sort of 'series' would be really really good for all parts. Thanks so much for this, Kudos

I avoided the clips you posted because a Louise Perry interview deserves to be viewed in its entirety and complexity. Fantastic interview as always Chris, thanks.

I cannot stop listening to her voice and her logic and they are both excellent.

Excellent episode - one of the best I have watched from Chris. Enjoyed the discussion around chaos and societal acceptance from 1:21:00 and onwards. Adam Curtis tackles this issue in his documentary Hypernormalisation. "Chaos" is much more prevalent than many people would like to accept, hence ludicrous conspiracy theories and the "It's God's will" or "the devil is responsible" thinking being so prevalent in society today. We should be more accepting of the fact that we are in an unimaginably huge and complex world (and universe) and some things just happen with no explanation or greater director/actor at play.

@brandonguzman2757

4 ай бұрын

good coolaide!

Not only are the topics really interesting, but they both have such a soothing voice, that it's almost like learning and meditating at the same time.

@user-vj8hf1ic3z

4 ай бұрын

it's a quality processed signal too. gated and compressed. 👍

She seems so disconnected with men and doesn't call out women and their mistakes. Women seems to be whereever they are: "sisters before society." Society is doomed and we will see it happen in slow motion.

@jsgdk

5 ай бұрын

Yes she is totally gynocentric, almost like she sees men more as a structure around women than as people

@the8thchurch461

5 ай бұрын

​@@jsgdkMen do that all the time. They see women as support structures around people a.k.a. men. Welcome to the club.

@julianmarco4185

5 ай бұрын

@@C12341 I respect her insight and knowledge and her choices to be a traditional woman with family and a career. I just think that it stops short of coming up with solutions. Kind of an apologist. If you want to see what she doesn't want to admit: there are two videos about "women rating men but their rizz" and "men rating women by their rizz". See how much power women have and how easy men are to talk to and see how hard men have to "work" to rizz a few girls. Men didn't go anywhere, they are the same as they have always been. Women were the ones who are responsible for everything that is happening today. And that is where she stops at: calling out women who are responsible for out demise as a healthy society.

@ExtremePainGames

5 ай бұрын

I have the solution julian Ive not watched this 90 minutes yet I heard her very first comment and it was off putting Im about to watch it now. She was invited last week in London as a special guests at the ARP with Jordan Peterson she seemed articulate enough there. But here on this video her very first comment was odd and way off so it got me curious to read few comment before the 90 min watch. I have a massive global solution to all this. Sadly though my documentary is months away. Construction worker with an incrediblly simple yet huge solution but Im suspended in gaffa with my thoughts. I can't type out the plan here to strangers in comments section. Im telling you 110% I have the fix for youth and the dismanteledness both sexes are facing. You'll just need to look 6-12 months from now for a new way of life that Ive invented. I have a huge problem sit in my car and film me talkign with the solution. Contact my local film school students to film it. This creates fees and also royalties. Google says if you make your own film noone can own 50% royalties. I dont wanna make money I want my plan to become heard on all 4 corners of the earth. These elite talkers the masters degrees specialists in their field havent lived amongst the problem so with several dozen 1 hour specials Ive watched in the last 5 years the common denominator is they talk in theory. These people were all born into well fed homes and have no real clue where to find the answer to men and women drifting apart. Kinda like they walk around like Jodie Foster did in Silence Of The Lambs with the night goggles on. Everyone keeps searching through debate and discussion for the answer and no one can see it. @@julianmarco4185

@wendeln92

5 ай бұрын

"She seems so disconnected with men....etc" Yes, Thank you for saying that. I was thinking the same thing and went back a few times to see if I missed something.

This channel is my best random subscription in the 2020s yet.

Bravo! ...for both of them knowing & repeating the essential message of 1 towering intellect, Thomas Sowell *There are no true solutions, only trade-offs"

Women given everything they ever wanted at the expense of men, women most affected.

@boogiemcsploogie

5 ай бұрын

And they are still complaining and unhappy. What perpetual malcontents

@nimapocalyse9569

5 ай бұрын

Perhaps they were given what they were told they wanted, and sold on the idea that getting these things would make them inherently happy and fulfilled, and now many of those who bought the ideas which were sold to them by groups with vested interest, are quickly finding that those things don't give them sustaining happiness and meaning. So what they need more than ever is for men to step up and be the leaders they were designed and destined to be. But there are many men who use the way the world is as an excuse to be weak and eternally juvenile. The world is in desperate need of real men and any men who rise to their destiny, despite the way "the world is" will find that their world restructures itself around them when they step into their roles of real masculinity and it will attract complimentary femininity, by creating a polarized space for it.

@dagda3000

5 ай бұрын

​@@nimapocalyse9569 Men only invest in society and become "real men" when there is a reward on the horizon. 60 years ago, this reward was to get a young feminine wife with no/low bodycount and with no kids to start a family and grow old with. Today, 80% of men have a hard time getting women in their prime. Most would need to settle for being second or third choice for a 35yo single mother that slept around in her 20s (with the "exciting" men that never comitted to her) and will divorce him 10 years later because she is not happy. So, many men just check out of society and focus on their hobbies.

@Yomel123

5 ай бұрын

@@dagda3000cool it’s about time males stepped aside for women to take over

@MonkeyMonkeyMONKEY.

5 ай бұрын

@@Yomel123 And what a failure it’s turning out to be… 🤡

A few years ago, in my local library I browsed a book written by a woman, for women, to advise them on how to navigate then (then) primarily male world of business. One section told women that it was not appropriate to wear, at the office, skirts that are too short, dresses that are too low-cut, or sweaters that are too tight, because the inspire insane animal urges in men, not conducive to getting work done. It noted that 75% (!!) of women did not understand this. They thought such clothes were simply fashionable. This sort of thing, and the business of a woman not understanding when an awkward guy is interested in her, makes me wonder of the idea of superior emotional intelligence of women needs to severely qualified. THanks for an, as usual, excellent discussion.

A measured, informed, rational discussion of many hot topics, hopefully, with many more to follow. Acknowledging that "the other side" can have credible arguments is crucial. I find that they are often dismissed for fear of undermining one's own position. It takes a lot to develop a position that integrates opposing arguments while preserving the main idea.

This was a delightful and informative discussion. Thank you!

500 men can tell a woman exactly the same story on why they're not marrying. And 500 times that woman will cry, "That's not true!"

@Arven8

4 ай бұрын

How dare you! 😆

@PlayfulJoyful

3 ай бұрын

500 women can say they want to be child free to live a full life and 500 times the men will scream- “you’re selfish”.

@steveouk90126

2 ай бұрын

@@PlayfulJoyful You misspelled "other women".

@user-ff8rs7gk6r

Ай бұрын

​@@PlayfulJoyfulNope, we won't. The vast majority of dudes will not call you selfish. But they will warn you of how lonely you will be sitting in that nursing home with no kids to visit you. Oh I forgot, that's "misogyny" 😂. Nevermind, keep making those mistakes and wondering why you're unhappy!

@Straga_Severa

Ай бұрын

@@PlayfulJoyful And 500 times when she hits the wall at 35 she will cry: "Where are all good men gone?"

100% disagree that women make better employees for mid level non physical jobs. My wife works in a huge multi national company in an all female team. It is absolutely brutal in a 14 year old schoolgirl kind of way - back biting, reputation destroying and excommunication from cliques - men simply wouldn't put up with it but these women will buy each other a birthday present while knifing each other in the back. Women are just as antisocial and unpleasant in the workplace just in a very different way.

@wft15

5 ай бұрын

BS

@user-ff8rs7gk6r

4 ай бұрын

​@@wft15Not BS. I work on an all female team (I'm the only guy), and I can tell you that with 1 or 2 notable exceptions, this is true.

@Arven8

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, I've heard many stories of all-female workplaces imploding.

@wft15

4 ай бұрын

@@user-ff8rs7gk6r you’re anecdotal stories been nothing! You can find plenty of women who have stories of men being sloppy, rude, indecent, lazy and gossipy!

@pixie3458

Ай бұрын

Totally agree... As a woman I preferred working in balanced or predominantly teams, as team member or leader. While men could be 2 faced, it did seem to be less prevalent

That was brilliant, nice flow through the conversation thx

I found this discussion interesting, imbued with a kind of compromise you can rarely see, but sometimes the arguments seem to overly rely on current data rather than consider the problems in a way that allows for progressive thinking and societal change. The arguments are fairly articulate, though, and their position seemed quite open to the possible counterarguments, so I enjoyed all of it.

As a person who works dept of corrections, most of the people in prison come from single parent families. ITs very telling

@joannetilly4586

3 ай бұрын

and?

@daketh4572

3 ай бұрын

@@joannetilly4586 i said it... most of the people in prison are form single oarent families. mostly women. So therefore single parent families are an issue. I didint think it was a tough to correlate

@sonderexpeditions

3 ай бұрын

That's more a correlation to poverty. Wealthier single parent homes or lesbian couples both raise well adapted children in terms off college educated and successful on average or above average.

@joannetilly4586

3 ай бұрын

@@daketh4572 you have to takie into account more and have more data to get that conclusion - that this is the only reason. But it's not - especially if we are talking USA.

@War-Zone349

Ай бұрын

​@@sonderexpeditions Wrong, poor families with both parents in the household, or a poor single father household have both the same success rate when it comes to raising children with good outcomes. It is only the single mother household that is linked to all the negative outcomes for children in society.

The massive expense to men of getting married is crazy, the ring, paying for the wedding, the honeymoon etc. Then in a few years the women just divorces them. The cost benefit is no longer there.

@joeadler5379

5 ай бұрын

I agree but the good thing is that most men only about 10% will have a prospect of ever being married..

@AtheismF7W

5 ай бұрын

It's a bad deal period and common sense. Over the last 300 years, men have gotten more or less of the same, or LESS from marriage. Whereas women are getting more, in the form of legal rights (specifically in relation to marriage) and general opportunities.

@nattypatty3667

5 ай бұрын

Don't forget women expect you to contribute more financially even though they work to so they can spend the money they earn on material things like clothes, hand bags, makeup, nice cars, etc. Marriage in the west is a joke.

@sumairshirazi

5 ай бұрын

exactly 💯

@brent4073

5 ай бұрын

If you are a man, seriously, do not pay for anything for the wedding. Just tell your gf to get off birth control and move in.

I think this may be the best/male female podcast ever. Really fascinating. Dan Quayle was correct when he said family values was important.

In my family, there is a legend about my great great grandparents (so we are talking Civil War Era), wherein my Great Great Grandparents marriage was semi-arranged. They barely knew one another, yet they were married til death parted them, having 16 children. This was a family of the time, living a subsistence existence, with substantial produce sales to fill in the gaps. The punchline to this family legend is that this Grandmother never spoke a word of English, and my Grandsire never spoke a word of German. I am not sure this was the typical communication level between spouses at the time, but it is suggestive of a very different matrimonial culture at the time.

If women aren’t happy with the current dating market, tell them to cry me a river because they’re the ones that created it.

@houseofhas9355

5 ай бұрын

They can't cry you a river because all the drugs + plus the pill has made it extremely hard for them to cry. Their hormones are that out of wack. But they can piss, brown purple due to big pharma. would you access that?

@iamkAIden

5 ай бұрын

Why cry when they can just keep taking those antidepressants?

@pariaheep

5 ай бұрын

🎯

@9770G

5 ай бұрын

@@iamkAIden yup I believe they say 1 in 3 are on them which is such a disturbing number.

@chipsteve

5 ай бұрын

​@@9770G Yes true - now look at white women over 40 years old. 😮

These conversations are just on another level. Well done!

1st time watcher. this was absolutely fantastic discussion. I enjoyed the truths the perspective and the accuracy on so many points made. More ppl need to have these talks.

I love this woman - She is so real, normal and insightful

I never thought about it that way. If you have one woman who is of normal weight and fitness (in shape) and you have her best friend (female) who is overweight, technically both females are in competition for men. If the fit woman encourages her best friend to embrace her weight, that then pushes most men towards the woman who is in shape and eliminates her friend from taking the men in their community.

@knightheaven8992

4 ай бұрын

Perhaps but i think those weight body "positive" movements, exists more to placate women insecurities then anything else. (basically cope) I mean i never seen nothing of that in relation to men, last time i checked there wasnt male plus sized models for magazines... but there is no shortage of female plus sized models for magazines.. which are changing their tune because they lost tons of money trying to push for those body positive agendas.

@esterhudson5104

4 ай бұрын

Yup. Women area woman’s worst enemy. Always thought so. I choose female friends very carefully.

@daikatarokamegawa542

3 ай бұрын

Why, yes, that's how it should work in THEORY. But in practice, what with Lizzo being a role model, nowadays, the "body positivity" movement actively glorifies obesity, and claims being fit and taking care of yourself is an act of hate and discrimination, because "you hate fat people so much you actively work to not look like them". So in reality, the obese friend will just resent her fit one, for not wanting to let herself go.

@hd-xc2lz

3 ай бұрын

@@daikatarokamegawa542 Doesn't alter the scenario of the obese friend's self-satisfaction with extra weight leading more men to seek out fit girlfriend.

I've been taking notes like mad while listening to this conversation. You are both great at breaking down these cultural and societal problems. Thank you for this content.

This was a great conversation. Thanks!

I agree that young people are so against romance. As a millennial, I grew up wanting my "prince charming." But I see so many gen Z women talk about how their career is the most important thing, they want to focus on it and not date until their 30's, and just being in situationships instead of a relationship. When I was in my 20's dating, situationships weren't common, you were either facebook official or single. And at the same time, the romance novel industry is massive and gen Z loves it too. It's odd, I feel like the "career is everything" mindset is pushed on young women, which is odd because being a corporate wage slave isn't meaningful.

Women would literally us all rather not exist then give up feminism. Incredible.

@Karll541

5 ай бұрын

It’s amazing how unempathetic women are toward men

@user-tb7ws5lb4y

5 ай бұрын

Why would men die before they listen to the women who are just asking for things they can give? Women are supposed to drop their civil rights as Americans because men are annoyed? Such a temper tantrum

@knightheaven8992

4 ай бұрын

@@user-tb7ws5lb4y What you mean by things men can give? have crossed your mind, that perhaps men cant give you want you want? i think looking at what is happening to men, and boys, its much more deep, and troublesome then just being merely annoyed... it is clearly a systematic issue, that is leading a big growing portion of young men disengaging with society altogether. Not just women, and marriage and dating, but also education and the work force. You might want to continue press on the issue on "civil rights" as if women dont have more privileged lives then most men already, and ignore mens issues at your peril, because society as a whole will pay the piper anyway

@knightheaven8992

4 ай бұрын

Well that is what is going to happen, we will be gone as a people, and culture given time, and be replaced by a culture were people actually reproduce.

@rwar531

4 ай бұрын

​@@knightheaven8992people laughed at me, but 20 years ago I said womens rights would be the downfall of NATO and the western anglos.

1:04:58 As a man who chronically assumes women aren't interested in me, it's disheartening to hear I've actually been overestimating their interest this whole time.

@Pezerinno

5 ай бұрын

😂😂

@WomenKilledChivalry

5 ай бұрын

We're in this boat together buddy. And I actually believed when a few have said they thought I was cute or charming. Its all just niceties to avoid hurting feelings, doing us a disservice more than anything else.

@Randomlad56

5 ай бұрын

Amen brudda 🫡🤧🥂

I think I have learned more from this video revolving around this particular topic than from anything I have seen before

There was one point that knocked me off the chair. Most sexual assaults happen with people that you already know, in situations and places that seem completely normal - so I don't absolutely get the point about "we should again start telling girls, that they should not go to stranger's houses". Did we stop? It's an advice given to children generally, girls and boys as well, because that's a smart thing to do. What does it have to do with gender and Me too? I personally was sexually assaulted at my rented place, where my flatmate invited his friends over and one of them was high and aggressive. Did not go to any stranger's house, just rested at my room. Same thing happened to my friend. Did we miss some important life advice, or what? I am totally in for a tradeoff, where men are a bit more conscientious and reserved about talking to girls in public and be able to be scare off a guy, who tries to assault me, because he got a message from a society, that he can actually be successfully legally persecuted, if he tries to do that. I don't really think men are divided into good guys and rapists and there's no way how to get rid of rapists. Many good guys get into situations, where they are tempted to be hurtful or selfish, or don't even realize they are hurtful. I think men actually totally should be conscientious about talking to girls in public and ask for consent and stuff. So should girls. But we know, who has more physical power to hurt. I don't really think it prevents them from picking up girls, they should just do it in a way, where a girl feels safe.

This was such a good interview - they both really enjoyed it and so many interesting points and studies were brought up!

Rarely do I listen to long discussions - but this one maintained my interest throughout. Two fine, intelligent minds in conversation

This was great, even though you and Louise are of similar mindsets and educational/political leaning, it is good to see people (any people at all) having these discussions and realising we're all just big ole dumb hairless apes trying to get by. Thanks for helping folks of opposite genders see some common ground Chris and Louise.