I've been watching hockey a long time, and I've never seen anything like it. So amazed at their scouting when it came to selecting in the expansion. If Gallant & McPhee don't take home awards this summer, it's a crime.

Not only the best expansion NHL team but best expansion team in all of sports period.

@mason.11

6 жыл бұрын

Juan Mariachi Van I forgot about researching the CFL teams. But according to my research now the Redblacks went 2-16 in their inaugural 2014 season but won the 2016 Grey Cup.

@swearingen211

6 жыл бұрын

Not really. They hand picked a team with NHL players from all 31 teams. Not hard when you the commissioner sets you up for success.

@swearingen211

6 жыл бұрын

MyName Jeff no they didn't. This is the first time any team has been able to pull active players under contract from another team. Most teams were created from free agents or teams that were relocated.

@swearingen211

6 жыл бұрын

MyName Jeff read the rules and stipulations to those drafts. Games played, retention,no trades.. bettman did a whole lot less to help those teams than he did for the knights. He gave Vegas free reign with no rules other that 2 years in the league.

@queenofyeay

6 жыл бұрын

What? Granted I do not deny that Vegas had the expansion draft slanted in their favor. But not by a ton. This draft did have a two year in the league exception, but each team's (A option) were also able to protect 7 Forwards 3 D-men and 1 goalie... There was also a B option where teams could claim 8 skaters and one goalie. I want to say that the A option this time was was the B option from the last expansion draft. Regardless, each team could protect the 2 year exempt players as well as all of their first two lines, and the best player from their third line. AND their three best D-men and their number one goalie. The chances are that Vegas in almost every instance got someone their old teams felt were expendable Like William Karlsson who until this breakout year, never had more than 9 goals in a full season (two years ago). He was a BRILLIANT pick, absolutely brilliant. Karlsson has 25 goals and 15 assists in 46 games. Teams could ALSO make deals with Vegas to protect their rosters. For instance the Wild were willing to give the rights to Alex Tuch if Vegas would take Erik Haula. Tuch has 22 points and Haula has 32 points for the Knights. The Knights also worked a deal with Florida (besides getting Johnathan Marchessault their top scorer in the e-draft) to get Reilly Smith in exchange for a 4th round pick. The Panthers did that to shed themselves of Smith's 5 years contract. Smith is now a vital part of Vegas' top line with Marchessault and Karlsson and they three have provided the Knights with 120 points in 45 games. Smith is well on his way to top his career high in points (51) he has 37 so far. Up and down the line Vegas is getting exceptional years from their players. It's NOT that Vegas had beneficial e-draft rules (though that helped) it's that the Knights front office made GREAT deals and picked about as brilliantly as they possibly could. Not taking solid NHL types, but insisting on taking players that fit their system, or making expedient deals that also netted them great prospects like Shea Theodore and Alex Tuch... I feel certain that Seattle if given the same e-draft rules will not have nearly Vegas' success unless they pick/make deals as brilliantly as the Knights did! AND hire a great coach like Gallant!

Honestly even if part of it is more favorable expansion draft rules imho that's a good thing. Those first few seasons can be a huge determining factor for whether or not a new franchise is viable in the future, especially in areas where hockey isn't already established. I'd rather see expansion teams have a favourable edge than get screwed as I want to see new teams succeed. I think it's better for the league that way and better for hockey overall. That said even with the more favourable rules the Golden Knights have gone above and beyond and that's great to see.

I look at it this way, Vegas picked up a bunch of different players who "couldn't cut it" with their former team so they are extra motivated basically every night they go out. Lets just hope Vegas avoids the sophomore slump.

@jlether

6 жыл бұрын

George Johnston i bet the Panthers would love to have Jonathan Marchesault back whos having a career year. William Karlsson. The list goes on and on

@mortimerreed

6 жыл бұрын

jlether hindsight is always 20/20 though and how can you know that the achievements of these guys would have been the same if they were retained by their original teams?

@jlether

6 жыл бұрын

George Johnston the only thing I know is everyone said the Knights would be awful after the expansion draft, except the guys at sinbin.vegas who i listened to and believed. I thought we would be at least competitive from their insight. Not first place in the West competitive on February 2 but still at least as good as the Senators which might seem rediculous because of their win loss record but not when you factor in first year expansion team.

@mortimerreed

6 жыл бұрын

jlether going into the season I thought they wouldn't be good, took me about 2 weeks to come to this mindset.

“Best inaugural season” for an expansion team.

Everyone in Vegas’s front office is a lock for the hall of fame.

They're the first expansion team in this era of incredible talent so I'm not surprised they're killing it. All those guys had so much potential on their original teams and they were given a full and proper chance to shine on a team where they're the main guys in Vegas so I'm not surprised they're doing better than every other expansion team from eras passed.

Another mans trash is another mans treasure and that cant be more true here with Vegas. They were given the right recipe for a good team of chemistry. They are clicking together and with their success this far its more then luck. We in the pacific div. better get use to them being around. However, there is alot of hockey left but they sure are not showing any weakness of slowing down. Best hockey expansion team for sure SO FAR....

@queenofyeay

6 жыл бұрын

Honestly, of the expansion teams built by drafts previous to this season the Fla. Panthers have had the best inaugural season with 83 points. Vegas, halfway through have 60 points and are on track for 120 or more! Unless something untoward happens, I think Vegas will just keep putting up numbers that no one will believe from an expansion team.

I thought the NHL was crazy with the idea of expanding to Vegas . In light of the horrific shooting and how this organization has taken a lead role in assisting with the healing it almost seems that they were meant to be there all along . In addition , the Vegas Golden Knights are the best expansion team in NHL history . Now maybe it was I who was crazy to think that this was a crazy move . A cup contender already . Now that's just amazing . VEGAS STRONG .

I love their Jerseys and their logo best Jerseys in my opinion cant wait to see their alternate Jersey if Adidas brings back the alternate jerseys

@sheik-kun5602

6 жыл бұрын

Riley Schneider Adidas already confirmed that they are bringing back alternate jerseys for all 31 teams next year.

@rileyschneider3418

6 жыл бұрын

Sheik -Kun oh good I've heard it was going to happen but you never know. But im really exicted to see their 3rd jerseys!

@bigfloppaism996

6 жыл бұрын

Hawks

@joshyjr25

6 жыл бұрын

I’m guessing it’ll probably be another black alternate jersey

@rileyschneider3418

6 жыл бұрын

Or perhaps a gold one who knows

Vegas is the greatest expansion team in the history of sports. Period. Just based on there success in their first year of existence, not overall history/championship history.

@musicman76enator

6 жыл бұрын

Malcolm McLeod See a lot of people want to think the samw thing, but they also have to realize there is still plenty of hockey left.

@zachmontminy

6 жыл бұрын

Malcolm McLeod only if they win a cup faster than the Flyers did. Otherwise they're just the Sharks with earlier regular season success.

@queenofyeay

6 жыл бұрын

Oh, well good then! The Knights have 7 years to accomplish it. But, I'm sorry, they are not "just the Sharks with earlier regular season success" The Knights are at the halfway mark of their inaugural season, on track to garner 120 points, something the Sharks have never done, even in their best season.

NEVER, for one split second, did I ever imagine that the Vegas Golden Knights would be this good...and I'm a longtime Dallas Stars fan. They've got something special going on...win or lose.

they built a team ... impressive ... cheers to the builders ... great drafting, scouting, etc --- ths is, to use a for-instance -- washington -- ovechkin is amazing -- but it takes character players to string a great season, and a post season ... not just surrounding a superstar with pricey contracts

Of course they are !!!!!❤️❤️❤️😍😍😍

Of Course. #BestInTheWest Its about damn time that you guys acknowledged Vegas as a legitimate team. Better late than never I suppose

@crisleal3780

6 жыл бұрын

Sheik -Kun definitely a bandwagoner

@sheik-kun5602

6 жыл бұрын

Cris Leal it isnt a bandwagon if they are your local team, and they are playing their first season

@sapphirestar22

6 жыл бұрын

For now you are, but you've yet to record a win against us

@curtdude7

6 жыл бұрын

how is it late if its their first season? people have been talking about vegas' record since the beginning of the season so idk what rock you've been under

@stlfatman

6 жыл бұрын

You do realize that Vegas has a long history of minor league hockey teams, right? Hockey in Vegas isn't necessarily a new thing. Just at the major league level. And even if a good number of Vegas fans are new... you were new once, too. The people you call "bandwagoners" are better fans than your salty ass will ever be.

I love watching the knights play. To me, it really seems like a bunch of (relatively) young guys finally getting a chance for some real ice time. IIRC I heard that about %70 of Vegas' players are on pace for career high seasons. That's amazing, obviously, but I think a lot of it comes from the fact that a bunch of young guys are finally getting 20:00 of ice time per game, and you're seeing some guys shine. Most notably, in my opinion, is Karlsson

@queenofyeay

6 жыл бұрын

Karlsson is probably benefiting the most from the move to Vegas and more ice time, his confidence at this point is soaring. Erik Haula might get the nod for the guy who has received the second biggest boost, he's already at his career high for goals and assists, on track for 30 goals & 26 assists. Alex Tuch being a rookie doesn't have much previous NHL experience, but with increased ice time he too has flourished with 4 points in his last five games giving him 9 goals & 12 assists in 37 games. Tuch continues to improve and is a huge presence on the forecheck. I agree with you, LOVE watching the Knights play.

The worst expansion team in its debut year is the Washington Capitals(8-66-8).

@xstech9886

6 жыл бұрын

8 wins and 74 losses? how is that even posible? the coach didint get fired? the player didint get talked to? Was the team really that bad?

@proffeine2383

6 жыл бұрын

YES, that record may not be exact but it was a very abysmal season.

@crustynuggets445

6 жыл бұрын

Ottawa

@matthewfavret7770

6 жыл бұрын

M D P No, it was the Sharks

@joshyjr25

6 жыл бұрын

Matthew Favret nope Sharks inaugural season record was 17-58-5

Yes. Edit: and to think of allllll the draft picks they got from the expansion draft. This team is a menace.

Golden Knights 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 #vegas

Yes. End of the discussion

they're better in their first season than the last expansion teams are after 10 years+...granted those teams all had to share a draft which was insane.

Insider? Dude sounds more like a cheerleader

looks at title "yes"

YES

I think its too early to tell if they are the greatest ever. There is still plenty of hockey left and anything can happen between now and playoff time in April. I will say though that their inaugural season has gone really well so far.

@queenofyeay

6 жыл бұрын

I think saying that the EXPANSION TEAM Vegas Golden Knights season at 29-10-2, 2nd in the NHL in points, 1st in the Western Conference... has gone "really well so far" is a bit of an understatement. Even with a rash of goalie injuries that would have choked a lesser team, the Knights kept bobbing along. Now that both of their GREAT 1st and 2nd stringer goalies are healthy, the Knights have gone 13-1-1 in their last 15 games... People, this isn't merely playing really well, this is playing outstanding, elite hockey... When you add FOR AN EXPANSION TEAM the superlatives stack up upon themselves one after another!

@MrJon1138

6 жыл бұрын

Maybe that was true 4 months ago, I think it's fair to say now they are the bar by which all other expansion franchises in any sport will be measured. Just one more win in this series and the story starts turning even more "special."

This team could easily win the cup.

@LeeorEngelstein

6 жыл бұрын

Arthur Garwood Delahooke they just might

We will find out if they get the the cup finals like St. Louis did in there inaugural season.

@queenofyeay

6 жыл бұрын

C'mon surely you KNOW that the inaugural St. Louis Blues had no business being ANYWHERE near the Stanley Cup finals. They were 27-31-16 on the year and third in the West. Fortunately the Blues got to play only the expansion Western division teams to reach the finals. So, while St. Louis immediately made an impact, making three Stanley Cup Finals appearances in their first three years, it was all smoke and mirrors, they were swept on all three occasions, and have not reached the Cup Finals since then. I repeat, those Blues did not belong in the finals, they hardly even belonged in the playoffs

@MrJon1138

6 жыл бұрын

In all honesty they probably didn't belong in the playoffs, they were losers. Being guaranteed to have ONE expansion team make the Finals is a total joke. I didn't know much about hockey history before this year and that one made me LOL. Never heard of something like that. I see why they're called the Blues, though. A lot of sadness.

There the best expansion team not only NHL but the all the 4 major sports!!

Shoutout to the whalers being number 3 best expansion teams

#HartfordWhalers

@queenofyeay

6 жыл бұрын

Right, so the Knights are right now sitting at 60 points halfway through the season and the Whalers, which I found entertaining, finished with a TOTAL of 73 points. You mean to tell me you think the Whalers, who were a WHL championship team team that was brought into the NHL whole (not REALLY an whole cloth expansion team) was better than Vegas is now? Can I have whatever it is you are taking?

@chocolateflat-nosedfreaksh5263

6 жыл бұрын

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@queenofyeay

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, you can this.

These guys still debating and wondering

Knightsnet

Why are Canadians hating on the U.S. markets

Let us discuss the obvious because we need to talk.

Obviously they are. Next question?

Cant say no

Redwings first team to beat Vegas ever

@queenofyeay

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, and you must treasure that what with the abysmal season the Wings are having... but you do realize that Marc Andre Fleury suffered a nasty concussion (dirty knee hit by Mantha) in the 2nd period but didn't start feeling the effects of it until the third period, when the Knights were ahead 3-2. Flower let in 4, and didn't play again for two months...

@nyo6177

6 жыл бұрын

yes that is true but just cause of fleury getting hurt doesn't end the game they still have subban and he did not do his job

@queenofyeay

6 жыл бұрын

Buddy, read what I said, Fleury got a concussion, but he didn't begin suffering the effects until well into the third period... the Knights were up 3-2 with 5 minutes gone in the 3rd, Fleury (Flower is his nickname) gave up 4 in the rest of the 3rd. Fleury thought he could shake it off, it was mistake. He then did not play again for two months. Subban did not enter the game.

@nyo6177

6 жыл бұрын

i was at the game i saw what happened

@queenofyeay

6 жыл бұрын

You were? What roads did you take to get to the Arena?

Yeet

Ask the St. Louis Blues and Florida Panthers what can happen after having early success.

"Las Vegas Golden Knights have NO Superstars..." Marc-Andre' Fleury does not count as a superstar for that team?

To be fair they didn't have to share their picks with another expansion team. They basically started their franchise with an all-star team, so it would be crazy if they weren't the best expansion team ever.

@13johnnyemo

6 жыл бұрын

DucksFanSinceBirth started their franchise with an all star team? Their lineup consists of mainly players that were cut from their respective former teams?

@loganmacmaster7721

6 жыл бұрын

Name a player that played on a first line on their previous team that isn't James Neal or Jonathan Marchessault. Or a defenseman that was top pair. And you can't say Fluery carried them because he's only played 12 or 13 games.

@MrJon1138

6 жыл бұрын

An All-Star Team?! LOL taking one player who isn't in the top 11 from every team is suddenly an All Star Team? Boy I hope you bet money on them dude, you'd be rich by now! Every single "hockey expert" had them pegged as one of the worst teams in the league or THE worst team.

There going to lose half their team if they don't have all their players signed in the off season. They might be breaking records this season but they need to get these players contracts before they lose them or else there going they be a very different team next year.

@sheik-kun5602

6 жыл бұрын

George Ingraham they are already preparing to sign contracts for most of the team. Players are willing to be paid less to stay in vegas.

@sapphirestar22

6 жыл бұрын

McNabb and Marchessault just got contracts, so that's a start

I would say they are lol

Luxor buffer lols. Clearly, he hasn't much of Vegas!!

That one dislike lol

@queenofyeay

6 жыл бұрын

Don't worry it multiplied.

Why do Vegas fans wave white flags during the regular season? --> Why there shouldn't be a hockey team in the desert.

@sheik-kun5602

6 жыл бұрын

Matthew Barnaby im pretty sure that the white flags have something to do with the terrorist attack that took place right before the season started.

@matthewbarnaby9819

6 жыл бұрын

Sheik -Kun Ahhhh ok, I had a feeling it was about that. Do they give them out for free at every home game? Well, anyways R.I.P. the people who lost their lives in that tradgedy.

@queenofyeay

6 жыл бұрын

You ask a question "Why do Vegas fans wave white flags during the regular season" So, rather than wait for an answer OR actually try to figure out what the white towels are for, you instead automatically jump to "--> Why there shouldn't be a hockey team in the desert" You are an idiot.

duh

Bring back the Thrashers......and dont say it was the fans, give the team an ownership that actually cares about them and we could have a great Predators-Thrashers rivalry.

Uh st Louis made it to the finals against Boston their first year 1970 and Boston won. So if the knights win the cup then yes.

@queenofyeay

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, you got your facts a little messed up. St. Louis entered the league in 1967 along with 5 other teams. To give the new teams some incentives and to ease the obvious talent difference between the expansion teams and the Original 6 teams, the NHL settled the expansion teams into their own Western Division. The majority of the time the Western Division would play each other in the regular season and once the playoffs started they would not play an Original 6 team until the Finals when the Western Division champ would meet the Eastern Division champ... St. Louis, to their credit, was the Western Division champ for it's first three years. BUT were promptly swept in the finals each year. Eventually the NHL changed that format for the Stanley Cup, but it does leave us with the grossly misleading fact that the St. Louis Blues did indeed make it to the Stanley Cup finals it's first three years, though they did not actually belong in the finals any of those seasons...So, yeah, the Blues were 27-31 and -14 in 1967-68, the Knights have already won more games than the Blues did that season.

@TheComicbookguy78

6 жыл бұрын

MISTERComaToes you are correct still a better starter team than Las vages

@queenofyeay

6 жыл бұрын

Oh, sure! The St. Louis Blues in their inaugural season were 4 games under .500 at 27-31 and were a MINUS 14. On the other hand, the Knights now have the best record in the NHL, are 31-11- 3 and a +31 are definitely worse than those pesky St. Louis Blues!

@TheComicbookguy78

6 жыл бұрын

MISTERComaToes look at the difference not being born in the 60s but they weren't all established players basically vages picked other teams players they're far from a rookie team

@queenofyeay

6 жыл бұрын

So, you know how expansion drafts work, right? Did you actually think that St. Louis was a team of all rookies? The Blues top three scorers that season were: "Red" Berenson a great player with 7 years of NHL experience who was 27, Gerry Melnyk with 5 years of NHL experience who was 32 and Jim Roberts who had 4 years of NHL experience and was 27. The Blues average age was 27.4 (I just did the math on that) the Vegas Golden Knights average age is 27.3, a little over a month younger on average than St. Louis was.

lmfao the golden knights will win the cup before the leafs!

@AbbaLeStrange

6 жыл бұрын

lmao no they won't:)

@queenofyeay

6 жыл бұрын

You are talking about the Toronto Maple Leafs, right? The team that other than the Canadiens has the most Stanley Cup wins at 13?

@byfirebepurged_930

6 жыл бұрын

and hasnt happened since black and white tv and a 12 team league?

no

@queenofyeay

6 жыл бұрын

yes

Vegas Golden Knights are a bunch of cast offs trying to prove themselves.. Yes they are a good team... But once those players sign those extensions or get new contracts THATS IT!! DONE! They'll get Knocked out in the second round by the Ducks or St.Louis.

@MrJon1138

6 жыл бұрын

You mean like... in future years? I'm confused what this post was about. The Ducks didn't even show up to play in the playoffs, they were terrible, it would have been better if they didn't go at all and save their fans and their players a lot of embarrassment. The Blues weren't even IN the playoffs at all, but they shared one thing in common with the Ducks -- neither won a single game lol. PS: One win from the Western Conference Finals. Win or lose, it has been a heck of a ride.

@LeeorEngelstein

6 жыл бұрын

Neil A that's exactly how it happend :-P

they are from vegas...so vegas has been calling it all along...it's rigged!

Leafs, vegas final

@sheik-kun5602

6 жыл бұрын

John F i hope we either play the leafs or the lightning in the final.

@skylarforrest1849

6 жыл бұрын

Sheik -Kun the leafs won't even make it past the first round lmaooo

@musicman76enator

6 жыл бұрын

We're holding your word to it, dude

@vgyvgoiy

6 жыл бұрын

Lightning is ready this year. Best goalie in league and all that bs from last year. They are ready for the cup, baby 😈

@themiguelodon7206

6 жыл бұрын

Chris Vasy has been amazing since stepping out of the large shadows of Big Ben Bishop. Hows Sergachev doing down in Tampa and are you happy you have him instead of Drouin?

NO.

No

@queenofyeay

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah? Who's your pick, I need a good laugh.

@redwingsftw3702

6 жыл бұрын

MISTERComaToes what

@queenofyeay

6 жыл бұрын

Douche bag says what

@redwingsftw3702

6 жыл бұрын

I dont get it

@queenofyeay

6 жыл бұрын

Don't you? Well, you do seem to be pretty dense, so I'll cut you some slack.

Of course they're the greatest expansion team ever. How else would the other 30 owners thank the Golden Knights for each getting $16.7 million USD from the Vegas expansion fee? Drop their head to head games with Vegas, especially at their building. Kings already laid down twice to them! THATS HOW AND WHY THEY WIN. Otherwise, they're a 2-75-5 team

@queenofyeay

6 жыл бұрын

You sir are an idiot.

@loganmacmaster7721

6 жыл бұрын

Jason I'm sorry, but throwing hockey games is difficult. You have to make it look like you're playing, and the puck can take some really weird bounces. One or two weird bounces and you just won a game you were trying to lose. NHL teams aren't payed to lose games, and lots of teams trying to tank still win games.

@sweetmapleleafs

6 жыл бұрын

...but they're professional athletes, are they not? You don't think they could put on a show? Again, they are "professionals" at this. They get paid a lot of money, and they don't look at a win or loss the same way us fans do. Sure it's league of unionized players, but it's a BUSINESS. If they have to lay down for a team that needs to win now in an untested market, they'll do it. You think Bettman would leave that up to chance? Hell no.

@loganmacmaster7721

6 жыл бұрын

Jason You make a very good argument, but the players wouldn't stand for that. That's how a lockout happens. Sure, there are some players who just want money, but many want one thing and one thing only, to hoist the Stanley cup. No team is going to throw games if they have even a slim shot at making playoffs. Vegas is doing this good because every player on that team wants to prove to their former team that they made a mistake not keeping them, and those who work harder succeed more. Also, if you watch them play they play a very interesting game, which no other team in the league plays, so teams don't know how to defend it because they don't face it often.

@sweetmapleleafs

6 жыл бұрын

I hope I'm wrong. But hey, it's also a league that hasn't had any of its 7 Canadian franchises win the Cup in 25 yrs too, ya know. It does make ya wonder. Look, NHL players all champions either way you look at it. Their dream is to get paid to play a sport they love for 6 month for as many years they can. Accolades and trophies are great to have, but that doesn't put food on the table. Income does. The moment it stops, that's when they feel like we do when our team loses game 7 of a cup final.

Cough Colorado 1996 cough Stanley cup cough

@CONSOLETRUTH2

3 жыл бұрын

Colorado was not an expansion team as hey were the Nordiques before moving to Denver.

YES