Are the Cats LOSING premiership credibility? Are the Suns the REAL DEAL? - SEN
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Kane Cornes and David King go HEAD-TO-HEAD on the pressing AFL issues, only on SEN!
0:00 Unpacking Suns v Cats
14:39 How good is Izak Rankine?
19:31 In The Gun
24:26 The Friday Agenda
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That Izak Rankine discussion was painful.
@Dawgs54
29 күн бұрын
yeah Kane got destroyed in that dicussion and Kingy barely had to say anything.
@whiteman2371
29 күн бұрын
Childish, can they not do better than that?. Horrendous from these two
@tb7667
29 күн бұрын
@@Dawgs54 Both of them made no sense.
@robbjob1725
29 күн бұрын
Worse than politicians !
Lol Kane, you definitely changed the rules on that better than Rankine exercise
The suns played very well I think the Darwin heat really affected Geelong
@thebuff4120
29 күн бұрын
You mean the heat the Suns put on Geelong (pun intended!!)😄
@seanblack5789
29 күн бұрын
You mean the cheating umps with a 17-3 free kick count BEFORE even half time.
@Snappernose
29 күн бұрын
@@seanblack5789wow
Let's all sit back and watch/listen to Footy media make excuses for Geelong getting smashed.... Half the teams in comp are missing senior players and for them it doesnt matter butnof course they'll give Cats a pass for that. Lol Good win by Suns. Shouldn't take that away for them
Cats looked slow, they didn’t adapt to the heat of the game and couldn’t keep up with a side who are used to those conditions. Full credit goes to GC and their squad for putting on a great performance against a top side, also great to see some stories of the blokes playing infront of their family and friends up at their home town.
Kingy, I don't know how you deal with Kane sometimes.
Geelong have a huge home-ground advantage, which will see them comfortably in the finals, but they won't have much impact in the finals. They got absolutely hammered on turnovers last night. The Suns are only just getting started with all their first round academy draft picks from last year and the coming years. They'll be scarily good in a few years time.
@pavementpounder7502
29 күн бұрын
I think they'll lose a few more there this year. It's not longer the almost impenetrable fortress it has been for a long time. I think they barely make or just miss the 8.
@PetraKann
29 күн бұрын
Cats didnt make finals in 2023 even though they were the reigning premiers. Port knocked them off in Geelong in the previous round. I would until at least Round 16 to get a better picture
@jumbo6009
29 күн бұрын
Yep....they were too old in 2022 also....hopeless they are!!!
@PetraKann
29 күн бұрын
@@jumbo6009 it’s all over for Kris Skott’s Korio Bay Kat Klowns
@jumbo6009
29 күн бұрын
@@PetraKann You may need urgent psychological counselling.
Geelong don't get beaten like that too often. Probably 2021 Preliminary final was the last time.
Didn't Kane cornes say not to long ago that he thinks Geelong will be premiers this year and that he trusts them only a few days ago? 🤔
@cweatherfella547
29 күн бұрын
Correct
Geelong could use so many excuses (crazy heat, lack of senior players, unique travel, etc) but Gold Coast played like a team possessed kicking goals for a laugh. It was an unbelievable performance
@cbgg1585
29 күн бұрын
No excuses should be made at all in reality. North Melbourne put up more of a fight. Even with Hawk, Cameron and Dangerfield out, that side on paper is still superior to North Melbourne. Not to mention GC didn’t have Witts, Walter and Holman.
@cweatherfella547
29 күн бұрын
Hardwicke outcoached Scott all night Geelong press up hard & high The teams that have beaten them run the ball & kick deep over the geelong team defence
Suns showed, you can play great football in Darwin at night. Of course, Geelong gets through on kardinia games again. They are old and with total RESPECT, the time is approaching and with Tassie coming in.............. Anyway, will Scott do a Hardwick and jump?
@joshuasadler9243
29 күн бұрын
I think he'll leave sooner rather than later. Just where would be go? Possibly replace a Fagan or John Longmire.
Geelong cant win a flag without Danger fit and firing in the middle. Besides him and Cameron they look suprisingly vulnerable
@Robrulz666icloud
29 күн бұрын
Take Dangerfield and Cameron out of any side and you’ll struggle…
@andrewkerr5296
29 күн бұрын
Geelong's midfield is terrible, even with Dangerfield playing
@RobKieranz
29 күн бұрын
@@andrewkerr5296that's what happens when you never bottom out
@Robrulz666icloud
29 күн бұрын
@@andrewkerr5296 Realistically speaking you can’t be in the top 4 with a weak midfield 🤷🏻♂️ Those are facts…
@andrewkerr5296
29 күн бұрын
@@Robrulz666icloud Get back me first week of Finals Geelong have just lost 3 in a row
One team read the How to Play in the Tropics guidebook the other didn't. GC kicked low and hard inside 50. Cats kicked high and long. It's too greasy for overhead marks. This also negated Tom down back. Also GC waited out the back of the ball whereas cats all rushed in. Every time nearly the ball went through hands to those GC players who waited. Yeah they had players missing but I still think they would have lost with their tactics
Kane naming players nowhere near as good as Rankine claiming they're better than Rankin because he said Adelaide overpaid for Rankine.....what a clown.
Toby Greene is NOT a better player than Izak Rankine in 2024
Carlton don't have a Warner, Walsh and Cripps do not damage you like that because they don't have the pace and footwork to do so.
It's not unheard of for Premiership teams to lose games on the trot, but what sticks out is the credible portion of opinions saying just wait until this point of the season fixtures and saying "told you so".
Gold Coast are good, but no where near a premiership. They aren’t great away from home and need to show that first before they can even join the flag conversation
the Cats kicked 100 points (Kingy ... "they cant generate scores") how many teams have scored 100 points and lost this year looks like even without Hawkins and Cameron, they scored fine ... the backline and the midfield defence is where they fell down
Rowell and Anderson are the best stoppage duo in the league in my opinion
@ScottyGem321
29 күн бұрын
when they're on, imo they are only behind libba and bont but they have taken some games off this season (brisbane, bulldogs, swans)
@CrAzYfIaZcO
29 күн бұрын
Na. Cripps Walsh
@chrisdepasquale4307
28 күн бұрын
@CrAzYfIaZcO Carlton now 10 wins 14 losses when Walsh has played in 2023 and 2024. 11 wins 1 draw when he has missed. Which version of Carlton do you really prefer? The side that is unbeatable or the side with Walsh in it?
How many times have these two changed there minds this week. Worse than my missus.
What we saw was Geelong late 2025 into all of 2026.
N.daicos brownlow medal 2024😂😂❤😂😂❤😂😂😂😂❤😂😂😂❤😂😂
They'll be lucky to make finals n I'm a cats fan
Imagine comparing a bloke who has played 250 games to Rankine who hasn’t even played 100 😂😂 what a laugh Cornes. Rankine will be stupid good in another 100 games time
Bonza living the dream 😂😂❤❤😂😂❤😂😂😂❤😂😂😂😂
There is a ladder predictor on the afl site. Choose who you think will win each game and it shows you the ladder. It does not look good for Geelong in most scenarios to finish top 4 and with a game or 2 lost at home they aren't making top 8.
@joshuasadler9243
29 күн бұрын
What does it look like for Collingwood in your eyes?
@thomes7318
29 күн бұрын
@joshuasadler9243 on my predictor it's between 4th and 8th depending on how many big showdown wins at mcg you give them. Vs bombers, demons x2, blues and cats. I'd give them at least 3 of those personally.
@joshuasadler9243
29 күн бұрын
@@thomes7318 fair call. I think unlike last year we will go into finals with some good form, our system is now working better but we haven't had our good players get to their best yet which is a big postive.
@taliamason7986
29 күн бұрын
There's a significantly much better Ladder Predictor on a site called Squiggle where you can actually predict the premise points a wins and loses by which better reflects the percentage.
Kane on the wind up
One thing we know for certain is that Kane's opinions are for click bait value and seldom have any solidity But good theatre
Geelong arnt that good, they rely heavily on Cameron and Stewart, their midfield looks listless without danger in, they honestly don’t have much depth
Fair dinkum unbelivable 😂😂❤😂😂😂😂❤😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
David King is on drugs. The fact that Izak Rankine is anywhere near the top 25, let alone best player in the game is ridiculous.
@PetraKann
29 күн бұрын
What these two guys say in a pub over a cold beer and what they say in the media are usually two different things.
@chinathesideyoudontsee8157
29 күн бұрын
Champion data for the past few rounds disagrees with you now that he has been given more midfield time.
@GK-wx6xo
29 күн бұрын
Midfield heavy Rankine is now showing what he can do....King is right
Kane's anti Crows bias showing
The game is going down the tube... How is it that the Swans have one more hardish game in Melbourne against Essendon and the Bombers get 9 games in a row in Melbourne.. The Draw is uneven, and why do low supporter clubs continually head of to Tassie and Geelong.. All about money not fairness... Afl footy is not a fair competition.
Geelong have lost the last 3 because they're playing good teams. They were 7 and 0 because of an easy draw. Now they're playing against genuine top 8 teams and they're crumbling. Same as GWS.
Bowes Guthrie Bruhn Parfitt isnt a stellar midfield lineup. Need Danger and Duncan but both are getting long in the tooth.
I have no idea how kingy has time for kane in Rankine discussion, Izak clearly been miles ahead of Toby all szn long so far, no way to argue against that as GWS getting massively overrated by the entire AFL public when they're another Port or Brisbane. Competitive but won't win a GF.
Lenny kravitz/Billy idol afl pre game entertainment ❤❤😂😂😂❤😂😂😂😂😂❤😂😂😂😂😂😂
In the bigger scheme of things...a meaningless game.
Yeah don't mention the 17-3 freekick count at one time. Game is absolutely rigged
@Snappernose
29 күн бұрын
Was the umps fault?
@jasonkelly5791
29 күн бұрын
It didn’t lose them the game, that’s for sure. Plus Geelong generally get a great run with umpires, especially at home
@seanblack5789
29 күн бұрын
@@Snappernose yep. 17-3 . Different set of rules. Please spin round n round rowell its all ok. Oh wait..you tapped a cats player? Htb!! If this was your team on receiving end of this absolute bull crap you would suddenly see it differently lol. Must support carlton
@Snappernose
29 күн бұрын
@@seanblack5789umpiring is generally poor all year but it didn’t lose you the game no
man said not finishing top 8 lmao
As much as you say some crazy things Kane, I consider you a very intelligent man but mate….youve been wearing headphones for too long and need to clean those ears out. You’re arguing an entirely different point to what Kingy is talking about. Time to put yourself in the gun!
Can’t win big games in Melbourne though. Still an irrelevant team
Geelong are pretenders
All of these excuses for the cats losing by 60 points, “this is what it looks like when you’re missing five senior players”, “young mids got exposed”. Meanwhile all season nothing but negativity for Richmond who are going through exactly this!
Cats are more concerned about funding being pulled for the new $4.1M electronic scoreboard at Pork Barrell Park than playing football.
of course when Geelong gets spanked by the suns, "they just had an off night, injured veterans, blah blah blah". when Hawks, a bottom 4 team, got spanked by even less points they got dragged through the mud by the media. Go figure. No excuses so many teams have had injuries to their top players Geelong have been shit defensively for the last few weeks. They aren't a top 4 team they've only beaten one quality side this year and feasted on the bottom half teams
@DiceMan72
28 күн бұрын
Because Geelong like Sydney are the media darlings of the AFL.
@pierrep2137
28 күн бұрын
@@DiceMan72 They definitely are, they could be a wooden spooner until round 23 and they’d still “be a chance” to come back
These commentators are on and off teams every week.....teams have bad games....
Next week king is going to say Geelong is premier ship favourites