*I see a lot of us have different opinions as well as beliefs. That’s perfectly fine, that’s what this is for. For us to have a conversation and feed each other information, wether one chooses to take heed and or acknowledge what one is saying is simply on him.* I appreciate and respect everyone’s opinion and beliefs, no disrespect towards anyone coming from my end. It’s all luv. Can you guys keep it respectful in the comments. Remember we’re having conversation, not trying to disrespect or put another group segment down just because they may believe something different from what you believe.

@stevehardison8768

Жыл бұрын

Here's The Answer Puerto Ricans claim to be the creators or co creators of BreakDancing and Graffiti Art. We allowed others to claim it as we tried to bring people together until the anti Black hate was to much to bare. Listen to this. First it started off as Puerto Ricans and Blacks, now its Blacks and Latinos in general, and now its Italians and Native Americans. Puerto Ricans were there at the start as they lived in the same neighborhoods as Black Folks, but as Hip Hop was created many Puerto Ricans and Latinos in general segregated themselves from Black Folks, until Hip Hop popped off and brung the two groups together. I will leave a short list of Links in regards to Foundational Black Americans creating BreakDancing and Graffiti Art. It want take long to watch and listen. Then you can tell me what you think All Elements of Hip Hip are Solely Foundational Black American Creations. I have heard from older Black Folks that Black Folks and Puerto Ricans were so divided that riots would break out in clubs when Blacks played Hip Hop, and when Puerto Ricans played Spanish music. I also Heard from older Black Folks that Puerto Ricans referred to BreakDancing as the Morano Dance, using the word Morano as a racial slur for Black Folks. Break Dancing is a Foundational Black American Creation. Lindy Hoppin AKA Hellzapoppin is an Ancestor of Break Dancing. Lindy Hoppin goes back to the 1920's Jazz Era. Pop Locking is also an Ancestor of Break Dancing, which was created by Foundational Black Americans in Fresno California in the late 1960's. Also Micheal Jackson and James Brown were Break Dancing in the 1960's. In regards to Graffiti Art, Artist Pedro Bell is one of the 4 fathers of Graffiti Art. I also heard that African Slaves in the U.S. used Graffiti as coded messages. Modern Day Graffiti Art goes back to The Funk Era of the 1960's, we can see it on the album covers of Bootsy Collins, Parliament Funkadelic, and the Last Poets. Click on the first list of Links in regards to BreakDancing, Then Click on the second list of Links in regards to Artist Pedro Bell and Graffiti Art. Then you can tell me what you think BreakDancing kzread.info/dash/bejne/k5yjrLSemabHgM4.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/epumj5iFkbbLgaQ.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/l3iB2JWCeKrWnqQ.html Graffiti Art www.nytimes.com/2019/08/30/arts/music/pedro-bell-dead.html www.pinterest.com/pin/844493663677472/ kzread.info/dash/bejne/dJ5tsY-kfpm3m5s.html

@MudvilleMedia

Жыл бұрын

Calm down Greenstein 😂😂

@BalthasarRodellega

Жыл бұрын

@@stevehardison8768 some of what you say is true but hip hop isn’t originally from New York, most people would think that. It’s more so it came to fruition. But for one the term hip hop comes from scat language of southern blacks, 2 African Americans in nyc at the time were all from the south, 3 the illuminaires were rapping and saying hip hop in the 40’s 4. All hip hop is based on the break, that break comes from jazz, blues and funk music. Which are all black genres of music they created. Without jazz and blues yoi have no hip hop. Even Kool Herc who DJ’d the first hip hop party with turntables ONLY user funk, jazz soul and blues records. There is way more to it but that’s just a little shortened version for you. Any scholar or academic and even historian will tell you the same. Black slang comes from GeeChee Gullah culture. Look it up and you’ll be very surprised “Early influencers of hip-hop included jazz musicians who employed vocal improvisation, or scat singing, in their songs. The first famous scat solo on a record came from Louis Armstrong ad-libbing on his 1926 recording of "Heebie Jeebies" when he dropped his trumpet melody sheet music during the recording. Earlier recordings of scat singing, from artists like Don Redman and Cliff Edwards, have also been found. Ella Fitzgerald was a master of scat singing, and rappers today still employ the practice on album tracks and use it as a mechanism for coming up with rhythms.” stacker.com/stories/5482/history-hip-hop www.npr.org/2020/08/03/897745376/the-south-is-raps-past-present-and-future

@stevehardison8768

Жыл бұрын

@@BalthasarRodellega Yes, everything you said is true, I try to keep it kind of short and get to the good stuff because if we get to deep people will not read our post.

@BalthasarRodellega

Жыл бұрын

@@stevehardison8768true that. 💯

All Latinos are guess in hip hop. There aren't any Puerto Rican, Dominican, Mexican elements at all in the music, vernacular or dance. Keep it a buck 💯

@TheShop90sKids

Жыл бұрын

Bboying has a lot of Latin dance influence. Theres literally a move called the salsa rock lol do your research

@truthsaviour8804

Жыл бұрын

@@TheShop90sKids your reaching. That rocking is salsa. His hop got its name in 1981. What was it called before then? It was called black culture. Do your research.

@idiotu668

Жыл бұрын

@@TheShop90sKids Just stop.... Bro, we don't care and never cared about Latin music or dances... If we did, we would've took over that shit and Salsa music would've been the number 1 selling genre for the last 30 years straight.

Puerto Rico did not help start Hip hop 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@thesoulbrother8636

Жыл бұрын

@Fly Ty Blizzy 💯 percent facts. I don't know why Puerto Rican's and other Hispanics keep repeating these lies when Grandmaster Caz already put this debate to rest when he said that they didn't create ANYTHING in hip hop and they (other latinos and Puerto Rican's) were calling hip hop derogatory names and playing congas and tembales and wanted nothing to do with blk people. Hispanics and Puerto Rican's started to emulate what blk kids were doing and that's how they got into hip hop, they are certainly not the pioneers of the culture. Peace...........

@richnice2112

Жыл бұрын

Not Puerto Rico , New York Puerto Ricans

@BoricuaNyc

Жыл бұрын

Nuyoricans🇵🇷🎤🗽

@ralphpinkins5619

Жыл бұрын

Now Puerto ricans claiming they made hip hop. 😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂🤣PR looking bad out here. Somebody Name 1 latino founding father of hip hop? I'll wait... these clowns are claiming they created that bullshit ass bongos and salsa music 100% and then created hip hop music 50% with blacks 🤣😂🤣🤣🤣

@IAMHIPHOP974

Жыл бұрын

No the Puerto Rican kids in the Bronx did

WE are NOT the Same!!! WE are NOT one TRIBE!! ALSO every TRIBE have their OWN INHERITANCE and GIFTS...WE are not letting ANYONE STEAL from US anymore!

@infanist3340

Жыл бұрын

We are the same, whether you want to think that or not, but other people view us as the same. They made signs about us no Mexicans allowed, no negroes allowed in one sign, no Latinos allowed it's well documented. No one is stealing anything, it's all love.

@jayjones251

Жыл бұрын

@I N F A N I S T we're not the same. We don't have anti Mexican or any anti latino mindset. Maybe we're similar on individual basis but not collectively as a group

@infanist3340

Жыл бұрын

@@jayjones251 again you basing a whole culture that thinks one way and that isn't true, there's racist and prejudice in every group, and are you alien or human? Grow up with your linear western way of thinking, that's the problem with America too many people here think a whole group thinks one specific way and it just isn't true

@jayjones251

Жыл бұрын

@@infanist3340 well not everyone from that culture thinks that way but yall do have anti blackness within it. Even other latinos admit this. Darker skin latinos have to face discrimination from their own people based off skin tone.

@bobjacksom9776

8 ай бұрын

​@@infanist3340part of the reason why you see black people like this is because of the anti blackness against black people I don't know anyone in my family who dislikes lighter people there actually praised more and when we try to ask to be treated fairly by other groups where seen as complaining of making things up which builds rage

Black Americans created Hip Hop no one else Puerto Ricans came later… You have Latinos saying the same shit..

@BoricuaNyc

Жыл бұрын

Puerto Ricans🇵🇷we’re rapping in 1970. Ruby Dee🎤and Prince Whipper Whip 🎤

@TruFinesse86

Жыл бұрын

@@BoricuaNyc show me a video from 1970 of whipper whip

@TenderViddlez

Жыл бұрын

@@BoricuaNyc This is a lie... They came around 1979. Secondly, who cares if they were rapping... The point is they were just copying Black American culture. Why do you guys want credit for just copying us? lol. We KNOW our shit is hot, everything we create gets copied QUICKLY. So you're not saying anything new, PRs just copied what they seen Black folks doing because it was hot and they liked it.

@martinj.934

Жыл бұрын

@@BoricuaNyc Foundational black Americans were “rapping” way back in the 40s before it was considered “rap” This information is all over the internet for you all to see🤦🏾‍♂️

@jesseluciano1388

Жыл бұрын

@@martinj.934 Play that music for a young person and ask them if thats rap. They gonna laugh you off the block. When a baby is born he doesnt just adapt his traits right tf away, it takes a minute. First blacks say rap music was inspired by other black genres. Ok fair enough 👌 but now yall say rap started in the 40s...😂😂😂😴 which is it? That was a FORM of rapping it was not hip hop by any means😂😂

Anybody influenced and enjoying a culture that they did not create is a guest to it. If a black man went to Mexico fell in love with corridos and became an artist of that genre he is a guest, don’t matter that there’s black Mexicans in Guerrero, he’s a guest. Look at the percentages of Mexicans in New York in that time and be real with yourself how can you be part of an influence when the numbers favored the boriquas, let’s break it down to the internal issue in the Latin community of how Mexicans and Puerto Ricans barely see eye to eye and this something going all the way back. You here to conversate, so we here to get in yo head with it too.

@MudvilleMedia

Жыл бұрын

Is Michael Jordan a guest in Basketball?

@EndZone1_

Жыл бұрын

@@MudvilleMedia no shit bruh he didn’t create it james naismith did, how that old saying go “it’s not who do it first it’s who do it best” ya hemme doe 🫵🏽👂🎯

@MudvilleMedia

Жыл бұрын

I feel you lol so is it cool for a white man or woman to say “Shut Up & Dribble This Is Our Sport, You’re Just A Guest” ??

@tyezillaOG

Жыл бұрын

@@MudvilleMedia is it cool for u to say nigga even tho u know it's not ur culture? No disrespect..but let's keep it real...

@EndZone1_

Жыл бұрын

@@MudvilleMedia they already do haha and they get fined and if Ron artest was still playing they would get smacked haha,but we speaking hip hop rn bruh bruh, if west coast blacks was getting shitted on cuz they was wearing khakis and chucks over timbs and polo and New York was making it hard for them to pop at first what makes you think New York was gonna give Mexicans an alley oop? Cuz they Guests just like vanilla ice, Eminem and so on so on it’s nothing wrong with that it’s respecting the culture you associate ya self with. If raza was doing it better then blacks in hip hop then it wouldn’t matter cuz they would be doing it best, simple. We all put something in the pot to make it come out good

All this ANTI BLACKNESS and trying to crowbar their way into our culture. Why cant people just say they like black culture and music? Its the inherit and internal hate. Show me yall music in the 70s..P Ricans and Mexicans...show yall dancing....that will say it all.....what were yall doing before the phrase hip hop came along......

@BoricuaNyc

Жыл бұрын

Mexicans weren’t in the Bronx in the 1900”s because they immigrants. Puerto Ricans are Americans and been in NYC🗽since the 1900”s First Boricua/Puerto Rican🇵🇷MC”s were Ruby Dee and Prince Whipper Whip-1970🎤

@TenderViddlez

Жыл бұрын

Facts, the fact that they want to crowbar themselves means they don't respect us as a people and as a culture. They don't respect that hip hop actually traces from earlier culture and that without any of that, no hip hop would even exist. All the DJ's, dancers, slang, style, music, etc that came about in the 60's, 50's, 40's that led to hip hop. They have NO part in any of that. That's what hip hop comes from... BLACK American culture.

@moneyeuros5361

Жыл бұрын

@@TenderViddlez exactly..they treat it like it just happened one day in the park...like the Big Bang theory....thel will never say who co created...their claim to fame is they were there.....black people wasn't paying them no mind...they jumped into the culture now look...culture squatters

@TenderViddlez

Жыл бұрын

@@moneyeuros5361 Yup. They wanna rewrite history... and they can't because our history is so well documented. Plus the overwhelming fact that we created 99% of all the other great genres of music/dance in America. So since they can't rewrite history, they have to ignore it all together... by pretending hip hop started as a "big bang event". Or like one day a meteor crashed and Blacks and PRs were hit by the same meteor. Then boom, hip hop was created lol. They have this collective cognitive dissonance or a mental block that tries to save their pride and self image. Because they've been comfortable copying us for so long, that they never rued the day that we might come back and claim whats ours. That day is upon us and now they can't help but feel like white people whenever we say we created Jazz, Blues, R&B, Rock n Roll, etc. Especially since they look down upon blacks as an anti-black culture they come from. They resent the fact they have to admit they copy someone they really hate. So they HAVE to claim "creation" otherwise they'll feel inferior to us. So they'll keep claiming hip hop until the cows come home because it's not about TRUTH for them, it's about saving their OWN group's image.

Where Were Latinos when Black Americans CREATED: Ragtime Jazz Rock n Roll Soul Blues Country Swing Funk Doo-Wop R&B Disco House Hip Hop "Music" was Created from Soul, Disco, and Funk! We've BEEN Dancing well before Latinos even came to America!

@MudvilleMedia

Жыл бұрын

Latinos are America bro! The first ones on this land. Latinos are Natives

@idiotu668

Жыл бұрын

@@MudvilleMedia 🤣🤣🤣 Ok Bud, so you are related to those Siberians on the Reservations...

@idiotu668

Жыл бұрын

@@MudvilleMedia Where were you when we created all of those genres if you were here? What were you doing? What music did you create in the 1800s "In America"???

@Dmack5ive

8 ай бұрын

@@MudvilleMediaLatinos are not natives You went to war and lost then sold it That’s why yo people can still be deported. Black Americans are foundational to this land and 100% built it we are the oldest ethnic group you can’t piggyback off the black experience nor our creations. Latinos haven’t done or created anything outside of Mexican food🤷🏾‍♂️

@RiccFBA

8 ай бұрын

@@idiotu668Notice he never answered the question 😂

Yes Latinos are guest. They were the first guest. They were the first to latch on to hip hop. Puerto Ricans were not part of creating hip hop. That is false. Black people are the sole creators of hip hop. Puerto Ricans latched on some years later. They were on the block watching black people do their thing and were hating on it at first. They then started participating in hip hop some years later. Participation is not creation. There were no Latino DJ’s, rappers, graffiti artist, or b-boy’s in the late 60’s and early 70’s when hip hop was forming. You don’t get Latinos until the late 70’s early 80’s. Dj Charlie Chase was 1976. Crazy legs is 1981. They come after hip hop was already established.

@bakulubaka8661

Жыл бұрын

Facts.

@lalo38th41

Жыл бұрын

Not true at all

@jesseluciano1388

Жыл бұрын

exactly and the first guest got seniority over the others 😉still a guest i understand...but thats the past, thats no more...It's kinda hard to determine whos a guest TODAY though when WHITE PEOPLE decide who's heard 😂 if a guest stays at a house for 40 years id consider them a lil more than a guest, just saying lol either way point taken

@MrMakintosh100

Жыл бұрын

@@jesseluciano1388 It’s all good. We appreciate Latino participation. Big Pun is one of the greatest rappers Ever. Dj Tony Touch is mad cool I met him a few times. Dj Charlie Chase and Crazy legs alike never tried to take credit for creating Hip Hop. They always gave credit to Black Americans and would talk about how their families would tease them for hanging out with the morenos. Fat Joe is trying to change the narrative to make presence and participation interchangeable with creation and we had to correct him on that.

@ConquerWealth.network

Жыл бұрын

@@lalo38th41 what part is not true

If you’re black (from America) no matter where in the country you’re NOT A GUEST ITS YOUR CULTURE POINT BLANK PERIOD!! no Latinos influenced or started anything about this. NOT EVEN JAMAICANS I’m from the Bronx some of the real pioneers are still here. Can’t wait for documentary to drop. We will see then what “Jamaicans and Latinos “ created. Cause kool herc has said it himself “ I didn’t invent hip hop”.

@chameliosalamander8029

Жыл бұрын

Facts!!!

@idiotu668

Жыл бұрын

That's the new Trick! They are desperately trying to separate Soul, Disco, and Funk from our Culture.. They know that they weren't involved in our Culture so they separate New York, where Black Americans created Hip Hop from our own Music and Swag.. Everything came from the South, Hip Hop is just a made-up name for something Black Americans were already doing....

😆😆😆😆 it’s so flattering to see how OBSESSED the world is with us…. Then when y’all get on the yard, ain’t no love… but on the outside, y’all dress like us, rap like us, and almost completely abandon your own culture and expect black people to accept it with open arms. I couldn’t imagine trying SO Hard to force myself into somebody else’s culture

@chuco5731

Жыл бұрын

No one wants to be y'all stop with the lies haha who wants to be a slave 😂😂😂

@ralphpinkins5619

Жыл бұрын

Mexicans calling each other the n-word.looking like some fucking fools

@simbamarshawn6726

Жыл бұрын

💯

@Seekingtruth-mx3ur

Жыл бұрын

That's only in America. You should travel more.

@soramirez5473

Жыл бұрын

actually hip hop is NYC street culture.. lol..

What Puerto Ricans made Soul, Disco, R&B, and Funk music? Take Your Time!

What other music did Latinos create that influence the world?I'll wait

Puerto Ricans DID NOT help create hiphop either,so…🤷🏾‍♂️

@sway9044

Жыл бұрын

Check your history before posting. We were knee deep in this culture. When you look at it look at it from all elements of hip hop and not only the rapping… 🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷

@FBA_259

Жыл бұрын

@@sway9044 Already did. Even saw Puerto Ricans from that era admitting to it. There’s receipts to back it bro, sorry🤷🏾‍♂️

@sway9044

Жыл бұрын

@@FBA_259 lol you are wrong my brother…. The Last Poets were one of the earliest groups to touch the mic. One of its members was Felipe Luciano a Puerto Rican. That’s all the evidence you need for our contribution to the culture not the creation. The receipts are there look again lol Or are you simply choosing to be blind? 😂 🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷

@o0R3stless0o

Жыл бұрын

@@sway9044 Puerto Ricans participated in it but did not create it..

@sway9044

Жыл бұрын

@@o0R3stless0o agree… I never once said that… my stance is that Puerto Ricans have been with hip hop since it’s inception. Help push it forward from all the elements of hip hop but we did not create it. There are many black artist such as Busta and Spike Lee who say it’s a 50/50 split. That’s not my stance…. We love this culture

All non FBA are guests

You say you're a "historian" and a "student of the game" but you ain't really looked into the history of hip hop. PR's didn't "help create" anything. They just liked what they saw and copied. Simple as that. If you actually like doing research, why not look into the 60's of black disco and radio DJs? Look into how 'jive talk' and 'playing the dozens' became rap. Look up early dancers in the 60's, 50's, 40's. You see, hip hop is Black culture that can be observed for decades before the term "hip hop" was even coined. You can't do the same for Puerto Ricans, as their culture is nothing related to hip hop at all. Again, they were just "there" in the vicinity of Blacks doing Black things that we have done for a century. Really alot of our culture comes from church and slavery... so centuries of culture you step on when you say PRs helped create.

@killadelphia215

Жыл бұрын

@Truth Hurts365 exactly my thoughts… the majority of the legends that were there say we help create hip hop.. end of story.

Latinos tried to branch off an do reggae-ton and it failed hardbody.

@MudvilleMedia

Жыл бұрын

Actually reggaeton is highly popular and successful in a certain countries. And was super popular and took over hip hop in the USA during the 2000s

@eastbee103

Жыл бұрын

@@MudvilleMedia Key words "CERTAIN COUNTRIES"!! Peace!!

@eastbee103

Жыл бұрын

@Truth Hurts365 My girl is ya moms.

@eastbee103

Жыл бұрын

@Truth Hurts365 How does she do that??

@eastbee103

Жыл бұрын

@Truth Hurts365 You ought to know!! You showed her how to do it!!

I’m Mexican and lll keep it real rap is not a Mexican thing. It will sound silly if others sing Corridos right

@chuco5731

Жыл бұрын

Rap is a cheap a lame fake copy of Corridos. The difference is just in english. Corridos is real shit but rap is fake shit wanna be. haha

@josehuerta16grapix

Жыл бұрын

There's several brothers and sisters singing corridos . Listen to "EL COMPA NEGRO" he's from Compton. He has gone through some shit, cause of his ethnicity. I've heard some messed up comments from Raza towards him. But, the homie has kept his head up high, and he keeps following his heart. Much love and respect to him and his family.

@lalo38th41

Жыл бұрын

You gonna act like black people are from this land? If I went to Mexico as a foreigner and invented something there wouldn't it be in part of the influence from the local culture? You can't deny Mexicans and blacks and boricuas and asians all live in the hood/barrio/ghetto. Hip hop was created in America not Africa.

@jesseluciano1388

Жыл бұрын

it is black created music no doubt but its AMERICAN MUSIC and the 70s were mf 50 years ago. It's different now..........no one taking rap from the black folks except the zionist whites who own the industry. They need to take their aggression and spend their energy on them while they hijack the culture and crash it into the side of the mountain...rap outta control right now and whos behind it? Oh yeah the labels who hand in hand with the prisons...this conversation stupid but I love hip hop so I guess I enjoy the stupidity lol its just stupid to be arguing about THIS, in 2022. This shoulda took place on a NY street back in 85 lmfao

Yes, sure. The Puerto Ricans came to the table which was already set. Only thing they did was rearrange some of the plates and then they screamed that they set the table. Blues was invented without Latinos Jazz was invented without Latinos Ragtime was invented without Latinos Country Music was invented without Latinos Funk was invented without Latinos Rock & Roll was invented without Latinos Disco was invented without Latinos House was invented without Latinos And now you tell me Latinos invented Hip Hop? Must be on some strong stuff.

@Cpa1388

Жыл бұрын

Well said, Salute.

@increasepeace4996

Жыл бұрын

Country was invented by Whites genius.

@chosenone3527

Жыл бұрын

@@increasepeace4996 No it wasn't

Soul, Disco, R&B, and Funk music IS NOT from New York, it's mainly from the South, Hip Hop was Created from our OWN music and Swag... No Latinos had Nothing to do with our music.

Latinos have played no major role in anything American. Lets be respectful of Black American cultural contributions.

@BoricuaNyc

Жыл бұрын

Puerto Ricans🇵🇷are Americans 🇺🇸since 1898. First Boricua/Puerto Rican🇵🇷MC”s were Ruby Dee🇵🇷🎤and Prince Whipper Whip🎤

@lebronjordan3098

Жыл бұрын

@@BoricuaNyc The mainland has a different history, culture and language than Puerto Rico.

@GHCMargarita

Жыл бұрын

@@lebronjordan3098 also Puerto Ricans are black too let’s not act as if those were European Puerto Ricans who did that

@lalo38th41

Жыл бұрын

How stupid can you be "Latinos" are literally natives from America of course hip hop was influenced by us Indigenous it was created on our ancestors land not in Africa.

@lalo38th41

Жыл бұрын

@@BoricuaNyc dude Puerto ricans and Mexicans are Americans since the beginning of time we're from this land.

Blacks are GUESTS in Lowrider culture. Lowrider culture was created by Chicanos through and through.

@dryinkdryink675

8 ай бұрын

That's fine....it's ok....it's hot

@AnimalAlmighty

5 ай бұрын

and?? we dont CLAIM to have invented it 🤡

Hip Hop ain’t a House. I get it but just because you African or Mexican don’t automatically make you certified enough to rap. You gotta be from the streets to rap about some street shit. Gotta really be from the Struggle to talk about the struggle. Lot of mfs faking the funk.

@IJCJR

Жыл бұрын

That’s true man. If your sh*ts hard fans will rock with it. Eminem is a YT boy and he’s a top rapper.

@guero-pi2qj

Жыл бұрын

Tellem

@user-uu6gz2cs8y

Жыл бұрын

Hip Hop is still Black Culture tho. Being a guest isn't negative either. You have a sit but you aren't the creator. Hip Hop was start by Black Americans in the 70s and Jamaican as well. Puerto Ricans we're there however it was a few until later when they became BBOYS but any other Latino came way later. Those are just the facts. Also just because alot if Latino rappers are coming up more than ever doesn't really mean anything

@carlosnavarrette7260

Жыл бұрын

@@user-uu6gz2cs8y nah bro Latinos created hip hop as well

@user-uu6gz2cs8y

Жыл бұрын

@@carlosnavarrette7260 Puerto Ricans we're apart of Hip Hop not LATINOS. You claim hip hop as Latino when it was 1group of people. Latino are quick correct someone about where n who they are. Ever call a Salvadorian Mexican? Or a Dominican a Cuban? They will quickly remind you

I appreciate your perspective on this, great presentation

Everybody say Puerto Ricans are indigenous but they come from a African lineage but then be quick to tell blacks they not indigenous because we come from Africa 🤔🤔🤔yall be so quick to contradict yall self 🤣🤣🤣

@MudvilleMedia

Жыл бұрын

The Puerto Ricans do not come from Africa. They have an African bloodline because the islands in that area were the first places the white men landed with a ship full of African slaves

@peeweesconi5125

Жыл бұрын

You do realize nothing you said don’t hold no weight to it because you literally proved my point I think you need to go back and “reread” what I said but at the end of the day it none of dat really matters because we are aboriginals the original people of this earth 🫅🏿💪🏾😎

@jesseluciano1388

Жыл бұрын

@@peeweesconi5125 they skim over facts and hear what they wanna hear like scorned women😆😂doesn't matter if real common sense is applied, as long as it lines up with what they believe and their tender feelings lol

Only thing I wana add on this is that all “Latinos” are not the same because the racial mixture varies tremendously . Latinos from South American/Caribbean have a lot way more mixture in the country . Look at Cuba , DR , Columbia , etc

@user-uu6gz2cs8y

Жыл бұрын

Once people realize that then they will under that Latinos as a whole they are Guests

@lalo38th41

Жыл бұрын

Cubans are white

@lalo38th41

Жыл бұрын

@@user-uu6gz2cs8y your a guest on this land.

@user-uu6gz2cs8y

Жыл бұрын

@@lalo38th41 Of course you can't debate. BTW My people are Aboriginals

@thehooddontloveyou

Жыл бұрын

@@lalo38th41 foh ur ridiculous for even saying some shit that stupid

Yall was not apart of hip hop stop being vultures.just because yall decided to profit off our greatness im sick of yall thinking you can take credit because some of y'all liked our music and rap didn't start from the Bronx and im from the Bronx latin ppl were more prejudice than white ppl so hush and stop the bs hip hop is our ish

The Puerto Rican culture is much different than the Mexican culture and I know you’re not trying to say the Mexicans had a part in creating hip-hop that’s absolutely false

Get your own culture. Your use of the n word shows us who you wanna be. I'm born and raised in NY but as a Black American our roots come from the south stop speaking on us.

It’s really not dumb to say blaxk people aren’t different it’s racist to say we the same it’s like white people a British man and a Russian man is white but that’s 2 different cultures nigga im Haitian I got nothin in common wit African Americans we just share the same race but our cultures is different if you feel like Dominicans and Mexican are the same cool but don’t say lies about other races folks W2MD

Blacks and Latinos (Puerto Ricans) grow up together in the same neighborhoods, hard to call latinos one in the same when many of y'all don't rock with Blacks but live Hip-Hop culture, it's definitely ass backwards. Latinos are definitely guests in Hip-Hop, but welcomed and respected guests, Black ppl invented genres of music in America way before Pureto Ricans or anyone else got here. All sub genres of Hip-Hop were created by Black ppl, you cant name any sub genre of Hip-Hop created by anyone else but Black ppl, Ill wait? (Boom Bap, Drill, Trap, Crunk, Battle Rap) which one of these weren't invented by Blacks and everyone else just followed suit?

@mr.nyceguy7800

Жыл бұрын

💯Facts Bro! but don't forget Gangsta rap as well which is probably the most popular form.

@mr.nyceguy7800

Жыл бұрын

@Truth Hurts365 Trap music comes from gangsta rap, both created by Foundational Black American men. If we love glorifying y'alls culture then why is it we do it better then y'all?

@mr.nyceguy7800

Жыл бұрын

@Truth Hurts365 South America probably has the biggest demographic of shemales🤫.. 👄💅🏼 👠💃🏽💃🏻💃🏽 #TruthHurts😆😂🤣 And you still didn't answer my original question? 🤔

@luisrivera3275

Жыл бұрын

🇵🇷 don't give af about cosigns. We gets BUSY and you know wtf it is

@MIERSSOCIETYTV

Жыл бұрын

@@luisrivera3275 💯% facts y'all do. That doesn't mean y'all created Hip-Hop. The problem is I never hear y'all give Black ppl any props. It's clear that we get more busy 😹

Spot on! I feel it.

"Do you feel like your guest in hip hop?" This ain't about feelings Latinos are guests especially Mexicans. Facts are facts.

Yes they are guests. It was southern blacks that started hip hop. Even the word hip hop comes from the south. The first hip hop music was based on the breaks from jazz and blues (African Americans are responsible for all modern music including rock n roll). Rapping itself is old. The term hip originally came from GeeChee language and originally was pronounced hep. They want to talk bad about us but love being like us. African Americans are one the most influential groups in history, mostly due to music. Your favorite low rider song was sang by a black person.

@samfonseca2930

Жыл бұрын

You’re right but there is no need for blacks to come at a Latino rappers saying their not good at it because blacks created it

@Student0Toucher

Жыл бұрын

Rock and Roll was influenced by many genres and including Jazz and Blues which were also influenced by European genres at the time….Also white people definitely are not guests in rock and roll they clearly took over and they are the ones that built it up and made new things like Metal,Punk Rock,Country rock ect. also the most popular genre is pop and not created by African Americans, neither is reggaton or modern Mexican music

@BalthasarRodellega

Жыл бұрын

@@Student0Toucher WRONG!! jazz and blues comes from African Americans which is a branch of GeeChee culture. Most call and response comes from African tribes not to mention so does the drum. It’s known fact that white people stole jazz and blues as well as rock n roll. Taking over something and saying they built it up is literally one of the most uneducated statements you can make. All riffs and even heavy metal riffs come from black musicians. Look it up. It’s a well known fact. In fact African Americans were barred from playing and that’s why French jazz pays its homage to African Americans because they were able to play in France. People like Ma’d Mabel and Cab Calloway are pioneers of rock. Any scholar will tell you. Pop music came when singers like michale Jackson came around. That’s why he’s the king of pop to this day. Also you are obviously not educated because reggaeton originates from Panama. It’s reggae Caribbean culture. Look it up. There’s an article about how Mexico and Puerto Rico white washed Reggaeton. It’s from Panama. Now prove me wrong. Mexican music us a combination of Its key influences were ragtime, military brass bands, music from black churches and gospel music. I have receipts and can prove anything I said. There are scholars that can back me up as well. It’s obvious you don’t read much. Prove me wrong.

@BalthasarRodellega

Жыл бұрын

@@samfonseca2930 I never said that and I agree. I’m just saying they are guests like Puerto Ricans. But really in the end of the day we should be using hip hop as a tool to unify and disrupt this system to better our people.

@tyezillaOG

Жыл бұрын

@@samfonseca2930 no need for Mexicans to say niggah and then tell a brotha it's not a big deal it's ok..

Us Mexicans were the first to hip-hop fences n borders. Let that sink in…

you got a valid point period

@IsraeliteJudhite

4 ай бұрын

🤡

It's crazy that Latinos think that I was there in the bronx and definitely blacks are the creators hip hop

To all my Latino brothers don't let the system divide us. Every person does not representat the whole race.

@chameliosalamander8029

Жыл бұрын

Stop this black and brown unity focus on uniting the black community

@thelink3066

Жыл бұрын

@@chameliosalamander8029 we have to unite as well, but further division weakens us economically. Millions of poeple do not subscribe to this.

@chosenone3527

Жыл бұрын

@@thelink3066 Do you wanna unite with Asians too?

@thelink3066

Жыл бұрын

@@chosenone3527 if they are trying to unite. We need every soldier. Lol.

@kevinlbowman23

Жыл бұрын

Go tell the LA city council that.lol

Sounds like some African Americans are Hella player hatting on Mexican American rappers

@stevehardison8768

Жыл бұрын

@Truth Hurts365 There is nothing to hate on.

@9teen9Dee

Жыл бұрын

Browns coming in we ain't no guest been having a seat

@stevehardison8768

Жыл бұрын

@@9teen9Dee That is the type of attitude that will get you placed on the side line.

@Supreme-yh7hj

Жыл бұрын

i would have to disagree with that

@noneyahh123

Жыл бұрын

@@stevehardison8768 sit down be humble.

Respect Given = Respect Earned

A documentary called "Reclaiming the Throne", on YT and TUBI, talks about this group of Hebrews, enslaved and spread out.... but they were known for many skills and spoken word, to music, was included. If you haven't, it's worth a look.

They always been Guess around us only PR I respect is Big Pun period

Respectfully there was a rapper called Charlie Rock Jimenez who was part of Fantasy Three out of Harlem did a song called Biters in the City where they talking about people from other city's copying the New York Culture of Hip Hop and he said don't bite in Spanish towards the end of the record. I heard that song in an underground break dance movie called Delivery Boys where Charlie Rock was the only rapper Mc hosting the legendary break dance battle underneath the Brooklyn Bridge towards the end of the movie.. Through that movie you can see also how the rich corporate man tried to exploit these young guys by promoting nudity within hip hop. Puerto Ricans did not create Hip Hop culture but through bboying they certainly helped make it mainstream. To be honest older Black folks and older hispanic folks thought rapping was going to be a fad just like funk, disco, and other forms of music that came and went in time. It was a youth movement in New York City that took the world by storm and became a multi billion dollar business. But in my opinion Hip Hop is dead just like Nas said because if it was alive we wouldn't even have this discussion..

@NOLUCKMVCK

Жыл бұрын

ill say blacks created it ricans def came and made their mark but it was a point where interest split. one side picked dj and mcing other picked graffiti and dancing. where black folks still created new dances that swept the nation I feel like after bboying that was it from that side graftti dried up. only thing left standing is the music and dancing not breaking.

@jonathancowley1758

Жыл бұрын

But blacks created the boy culture... The reach is phenomenal

Every culture has music

PEACE. I'M FROM THE BRONX. BLACK/PURETO RICAN. IF U NOT FROM NY, YOUR NOT QUALIFIED TO SPEAK OR TEACH ON SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN. BRING ME ON LIVE SO WE CAN BUILD. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT.

Y’all did not start no damn hip hop man stop it…

@akaijackson2

Ай бұрын

@lordschild673. You mean the black people or Latinos?

@lordschild673

Ай бұрын

@@akaijackson2 Latinos, they didn’t start no damn hip hop let’s be for real… Black Americans were rapping and even break dancing in the 40’-50’, they have literal videos right here on KZread…

Puerto Rican’s have a lot of African ancestry. They aren’t really influenced much on indigenous Americans as Mexicans are. Puerto Rican’s mostly have European and African influences in their culture. While Mexicans is mostly indigenous and European. So Puerto Rican’s are more similar to blacks because of the Africans who were enslaved there, therefore they helped mold hip hop in New York. There is a big difference between Mexicans and Puerto Rican’s due to ethnic backgrounds. Puerto Rican’s are more similar to other Caribbean Latinos like Cubans and Dominicans while Mexicans are more similar to Central Americans because of ethnicity, culture.

@MudvilleMedia

Жыл бұрын

That’s not true at all!! Puerto Ricans are heavily involved with their Indigenous roots and culture

@kevinlezo1046

Жыл бұрын

@@MudvilleMedia not as much as Mexicans are.

@jesseluciano1388

Жыл бұрын

@@kevinlezo1046 but they still under the latino umbrella lol like hondurans, cubans, salvadorans...the list goes on and on ofc they differ and vary in shades but your skin color does not make your RACE otherwise when im super dark in the summer and a light skin black dude super light in the summer, suddenly he's white and i'm black now?😂see why thats retarded af, they use black and white identites to steal and cover up the real identities ov latinos and darker colored brown folks..Especially africans, haitans, tongans etc they "blacked" out they history just like they "black" and "white" out alot ov latino history they don't want you to know your true roots! facts..Unless you MIDNIGHT BLACK or VANILLA WHITE like a damn albino chances are you a variant ov the shade BROWN. Most y'all may not read this mf far lol but the paragraph bomb was needed. I looked into my roots and this topic alot within the last 10 years, two whole more years than that fake ass fraudulent schooling I received in high school.

@stevehardison8768

Жыл бұрын

What Aspect of Hip Hop Did Puerto Ricans Mold or help to Mold. Just because somebody may look like you does not mean that they think like you.

@jesseluciano1388

Жыл бұрын

@@stevehardison8768 the very beginning of rap puerto ricans was right there in NY pioneering the latino side ov rap we hear today on the west coast. It's simple...although youtube does a great job scrubbing these artists but i heard oldschool tapes from early 80s like 82 83 puerto ricans was right there helping build the sound alongside tha brothas

People always get it wrong when calling Cubanos,Puertorriqueños and Dominicanos Latinos, because in reality Latinos are those from Latin America now Hispanics are all those from Spanish speaking countries.But mostly all of us that have European and Indigenous bloodline making us Mestizo’s. Don’t believe me? Look it up. W/R

@juliostevens9480

Жыл бұрын

Either Mestizos or Afro Mestizos.

@iBdan97

Жыл бұрын

We probably like 2 to 5% indigenous to be real. Most latinos really just Spanish roots. With a sprinkle of indigenous. The thing is Latin America was abandoned like an orphan. Spanish empire dipped out after the revolutions and Latin America countries been struggling ever since. And even they have as much racism in those countries as the United States.

If they made Hip Hop why they can't make nothing else? It's obvious to see who the creators are. All the trends, slang and DRIP comes from Black Americans.

There is no debate Puerto Ricans help create hip-hop

@martinj.934

Жыл бұрын

Nah they just contributed to it afterwards

@luisrivera3275

Жыл бұрын

@@martinj.934 yessir we day1 and YOU KNOW WTF IT IS 🇵🇷

@jerrygraves6531

2 күн бұрын

​@@luisrivera3275Puerto Ricans just help with a couple breakdancing moves in the 80s a decade or two after hip hop was created

Alright the example you used saying that if your black from down south you’re a guest in hip hop, well that’s already a talk and been a talk in the black community lol, New York always gonna feel they the fathers of hip hop and they’ve already expressed that since the west got media attention, just look at the 90s MTV awards where snoop went in saying they don’t got love for the west coast lol.

@CBlixk6300

Жыл бұрын

Where Caribbeans we all frm some Caribbean country in New York that’s where

I remember Mexicans were I grew up in Yakima valley in Sunnyside ,Washington and Granger Washington they had people come down from New York to battle the dancers we had there was the converse crew in Granger,Washington and the new York city breakers they had a dance of back in the 1987 or 1988 I can't remember it was one of them years

@iBdan97

Жыл бұрын

Lotta unrecorded history, I think people think the race / culture gap bigger than what it really is...

Mexicans are of indigenous ancestry just like Cubans and Puerto Ricans! That’s like saying African Americans are guests but Jamaicans are the real creators. Lol just cause they live on an island don’t make them any different.

@TonyBambino

Жыл бұрын

Mexicans unlike Cubans and PR's don't have any African blood, stop it. LMAO Mexicans LOVE claiming "native ancestry" when it's convenient but treat actual indigenous Mexicans like trash in and outside of Mexico.

@commonsenseisnowasuperpowe5275

Жыл бұрын

Black Americans created jazz,blues,funk,jazz,rock but a Jamaican foreigner came later and created hip hop? Make it make sense

That’s not a very good comparison. If you separate blacks from east and west coast because they both come from the same Black American lineage. A better comparison would be Black Americans and Carribeans and there is a clear line in culture there. PR and Mexicans are from two entirely different countries with two entirely different cultures.

@tyezillaOG

Жыл бұрын

These CATS are young minded and can't wrap their head on the game you just dropped...some of these CATS think since they "LOVE RAP" and nothing else it makes it ok to talk and pretend to be something they ain't... and ur correct BEING Puerto Rican is not close as being Mexican...Puerto Ricans acr black cuz they have black in them...they just speak a language that's Spanish....

@MudvilleMedia

Жыл бұрын

You missed my point the country that they’re from doesn’t matter they are still Indigenous

@IJCJR

Жыл бұрын

@@MudvilleMedia Yea, they are both indigenous but Mexicans descend from Aztecs and Mayans. Central and S. Americans the Yucatán. Puerto Ricans descend from the Taino who are part of the Arawak which encompasses not only Puerto Rico but the whole Caribbean and the Florida region. It’s a different culture. So, yeah everyone’s Latino but the similarities are mostly language based the Spanish and Portuguese established a different culture in Central and S. America than the one that was established in the Caribbean. That’s like England, U.S., Canada, and S. Africa all speak English. But each region has its own distinct culture. I get what your saying there’s just a little more nuance to it. As far as it all being Latino though, yes your right. You could technically even throw in the French Creole from Louisiana if you want to be technical. Being that French is a “Latin Language” or one of the languages birthed from Latin. But in the states there’s no delineation French Creole are just seen as Black.

@theoracle4010

Жыл бұрын

Facts they not the same as Mexicans

@IJCJR

Жыл бұрын

@@tyezillaOG Well yes the PR, Dominicans, Cubans, Haitians, Jamaicans, and pretty much the whole Caribbean has black in them, they also have Spanish. The Spanish committed a pretty successful genocide in Hispaniola in particular and decimated the Taino to less than 10% which is when Importation of African slaves started. There’s even historians who say that the Caribbean is majority a mix of YT, BLK, and West Indian with very little Taino left. I’m not sure how true that is though. I just read it somewhere. Central and S. America from Mexico to Brazil has a much more intact Native population, and there was a just overall larger populations of all 3 groups YT, BLK, Native down there. I think a lot of that history is washed out. But Brazil has kept their records pretty accurate about the different populations down there. Those 3 culture mixing without the all out genocide like Hispaniola and the Spanish embracing their mixed race children created the culture in Central and S. America. The Caribbean wasn’t like that.

If you are about hip hop history you would know that there are videos of blacks rapping in the 1940s in the south .

Can any of y'all name one pioneer Mexican rapper( not pr not cuban not dr) but Mexican that was the one that helped create hip hop?

@MudvilleMedia

Жыл бұрын

That’s like saying can you name one Black pioneer from the West Coast that helped pioneer hip hop…. You can’t.

@fuckallyall3279

Жыл бұрын

@@MudvilleMedia yea I can tho ....too short Ice t Dj unknown ice T.... I'm still waiting on the pioneer Mexican artist just name one ...I can .

@fuckallyall3279

Жыл бұрын

@@MudvilleMedia face it bra y'all really are guest in our shit . Can you name a platinum selling Mexican hip hop slash rap artist... You can't . Do u realize Mexican artist don't even look up to Mexican artist they look up to black artist .

@MudvilleMedia

Жыл бұрын

@@fuckallyall3279 lmao do some more research my boi 😂😂 I hope I don’t gotta educate you on the history of hip hop…. Too Short and them dudes came out over a decade after hip hop was created. They are not pioneers. No one on the West Coast is.

@MudvilleMedia

Жыл бұрын

@@fuckallyall3279 lmao AGAIN, DO SOME RESEARCH MY BOY!!! Mexican rappers that gone platinum are, Baby Bash, Berner, OhGeesy, Kap G, Snow The Product, Lighter Shade of Brown, and numerous others. Do some research my guy 😂😂

I guess from my experience, yes. Mexican rappers been trying to get in since Brownside from the 90s. Like Big toker and Danger. Both R.I.P now unfortunately. But s/o to Eazy -E.. He acknowledged us and worked with us during those times. But yeah, now that i think of it, it does feel that way. However, this is 2022 and with social media being what it is, its gonna happen. We are only getting stronger and wiser and more of us are coming out with bangers 💯🔥 our voices are being heard and as well as getting the respect that we been seeking. Its gonna happen. I already know.

@IJCJR

Жыл бұрын

I think there’s a lot of truth to that. I think previous Mexican rappers created cholo rap and that was catered toward a niche market. The new generation of Mexican rappers create music for everyone. I don’t think it’s a blk/brn thing. Guys like pit bull, fat joe, pun, Nore, fabulous, Lloyd banks, and many others have Latino ancestry. Mostly PR, Dominican, or Cuban though. But their rap was more in line with what was mainstream. With guys like king lil G, Devour, peso, and others Mexican rappers are coming up. Northern Mexican rappers have been on the train for awhile.

@user-uu6gz2cs8y

Жыл бұрын

Thing is Latinos can be rappers, djs, producers but they will always be Guests. Doesn't matter how big Latinos get in HIP hop. It's not an insult to be a guest. It simply means they are welcomed but for people thinking Hip Hop is part of the Latino culture is dead wrong. Reggaeton makes more sense but even Reggaeton derives from Black Panamanians who sung in Spanish over reggae and dancehall beats. In the creation of Hip they were only a few Puerto Ricans who we're involved. So to call Hip Hop Latino culture can't be correct but Black/Caribbean is more accurate

@TonyBambino

Жыл бұрын

@@IJCJR There is no such thing as "cholo rap" it is gangster rap and they are not doing ANYTHING new. The flows they use came from black rappers, the beats they rap over are modeled after black producers production techniques. That's the problem ya'll always think you're doing something "special" or "different" when it's really the same sh-t... I have yet to hear a Mexican rapper elevate rap with LYRICISM the same way Big Pun did.

@IJCJR

Жыл бұрын

@@TonyBambino I’m not taking anything from Black rap. I agree with most of what you said. I do have to push back on the Cholo rap statement and I’ll provide context. The cholo rap style was specific and it was significantly different from traditional black gangster rap. This is I believe a large reason why it wasn’t very popular. Unlike traditional black gangster rap that was more appealing and better sounding. It also resonated with a larger audience. The Cholo rap style only resonated with Hispanics. Mexicans in particular and mostly from Southern Cali. Let’s say this Cholo rap wasn’t a different genre it was more of a different style. Like East/West/Southern/Bay Area/Mid West Black rap. I think black rap has always had a larger audience because it’s more appealing and sounds better. No one can spit like brothers, there’s no doubt about that.

@TonyBambino

Жыл бұрын

@@IJCJR The only real cholo/chicano rap song was Kid Frost " La Raza". Every other Chicano/cholo rap song is a variation of gangster rap Proper Dos, Brownside, Down aka Kilo was basicaly a Mexican Eazy E. I'm not knocking Chicano rap... I'm saying these cats are doing nothing new whereas La Raza actually introduced folks to different aspect of Latino culture to folks like me who partly grew up in New York. It's the same thing with Trap, Drill, UK Drill, etc ait's nothing new either, it's just modern gangster rap, they are using outdated flows from 30 years ago, with basic one to three syllable rhymes, ppl just think it's new because they have no knowledge of rap music. There are definitely Mexican rappers that can spit 2Mex, Sick Jacken, and a few others but they are a bit older and underground.. What I'm saying is because so many Mexican rappers put too much focus on street shit/gang shit.... they don't put any focus on lyrcism. Where is the Mexican rapper like Pun or G Rap. That puts hip hop and llyricism first and street shit after all that. Pun was a street dude but he put his RAPS first.

Pr isn't Mexican... Mexs arnt Latino they are Hispanic

@MudvilleMedia

Жыл бұрын

So a black guy is going to tell a group of Latinos who is Latino and who isn’t….? Lmao 🤣 smh 🤦‍♂️

@North209

Жыл бұрын

@@MudvilleMedia do ur history dummie .Are u gone say Sammie Sosa is the same as Oscar Dela hoto? No Sammie is clearly afro PR. U sound dumb ass fuck Hispanic and Latino are different. They don't fuck wit y'all .

@North209

Жыл бұрын

@@MudvilleMedia While both Mexicans and Puerto Ricans have ancestry from all three populations, it is apparent that the Mexicans have predominant European and Native American ancestry but modest African ancestry, while the Puerto Ricans, who also have substantial European ancestry, have greater African ancestry and far less Native .. Facts lil dumb ass nigga

@North209

Жыл бұрын

@@MudvilleMedia Hispanic and Latino are often used interchangeably though they actually mean two different things. Hispanic refers to people who speak Spanish or are descended from Spanish-speaking populations, while Latino refers to people who are from or descended from people from Latin America ... Facts over feeling lil bich asss nigga!

@cheeksclapper1012

Жыл бұрын

No Mexicans are considered Latinos idiot

Vino la Mano and Xp the Marxman go hard , real lyricist

Let's not go into word semantics. The truth is if all black people stopped being a part of Hip Hop it would die completely. Let's not lie to ourselves if Hip Hop today was left to be created by only non black people a lot of non black listeners will stop listening and the whole culture will start to die off. There is no 50/50. We created Hip Hop and Latinos are RESPECTED guests we do fuck with y'all but yall didn't CREATE ANYTHING FROM HIP HOP you saw it liked it and made contributions but you didn't create rap, didn't create breakdancing, didn't create djing ETC

West coast rap is hella Mexican influenced. Snoop nwa Warren g idolized and dress and roll like cholos

@YOUNGDOFFTV

Жыл бұрын

There is way more to west coast hip hop than Snoop, Nwa, and Warren G. Anyways you named 3 artists an none of them “roll like cholos” 😂😂😂

If they think Mexicans are just guest in hip hop, then thats fine with me. Hip hop/rap can disappear right off the face of the planet and I wouldn't lose no sleep over it. I don't make no money off hip hop but alot of us Mexicans do support hip hop. But if they don't want our support or contributions, then i say fuck it and let em keep it. New rap sucks anyways. I'll be good with jamming cumbias in the trunk. They be hating on Eminem the same way too tho and Eminem is definitely a top 5 emcee in my opinion. Em has done so much for hip hop and probably will never get the respect he deserves.

@stevehardison8768

Жыл бұрын

All non FBA's are guest in Hip Hip. The problem comes in when other groups participate in the culture, claim the culture as their own invention, and hates on the people, Foundational black Americans who Created it. You would not go to your bosses house as a guest and dirty the floor with your mud stained boots and jump on the coach. We are asking others to do the same with us or you can sit on the sideline.

@subzero-ws7wt

Жыл бұрын

@@stevehardison8768 Pure hip hop has been dead before Nas even said it. Black Americans destroyed hip hop, not Mexicans. All that rapping about flexing, killing, dope dealing, dissing the dead, smoking on ya pack and all that other ignorant bullshit you can keep. If I'm gonna be a guest, I'm not tryna be invited to a house full of negative energy. I don't need it and don't want it. True hip hop is good music, not this new trash with young dudes jumping up and down with skinny jeans waving loaded guns looking a bunch of ignorant degenerates on drugs. Mexicans did not set those trends and i sure as hell don't follow it.

@kidkid985

Жыл бұрын

I mean try Chicano rap you see how that failed

@subzero-ws7wt

Жыл бұрын

@@kidkid985 There were some dope Chicano rappers like Cali Life Style, Clicka One and Mr Lil One but unfortunately, Chicano rap has been stigmatized as "sureno rap" and it limited their following in my opinion. Alot of them were wack on the mic and alot of them were beefing with each other. It was a clown show and it ruined it for the Chicano rappers that were actually dope on the mic.

@YOUNGDOFFTV

Жыл бұрын

Eminem is an Illuminati sell out puppet that’s why he is elevated the way he is. There are so many better MC’s that have came way before Em.

What happen to part 4 from ur story

So if people want to divide a culture … it was New York African Americans… so are the south and west coast Afro Americans just guest as well?

@stevehardison8768

Жыл бұрын

NO.

@stevehardison8768

Жыл бұрын

No one is dividing our Culture.

@moneyeuros5361

Жыл бұрын

blacks share the vibe

@jesseluciano1388

Жыл бұрын

@@stevehardison8768 yeah goofy you are. Blacks on the west coast were not rapping before puerto ricans, end ov story. You admitted it out ya own mouth, puerto ricans started rapping in the late 70's. You a troll and how are we to know you even black lmfao with that white ass name

It's all love...just be urself and get ur rap skills up... but HIP HOP is and started out as A BLACK THANG... crews like the "ZULU NATION" or "DJ COOL HERC (1ST DJ TO HAVE BREAKDOWNS IN HIS BEAT) was BLACK .1ST RAP SONG IN 1979..."SUGAR HILL GANG" BLACK..1ST RAP LABEL "SYLVA ROBINSON" BLACK WOMAN.. 1st graff tagger in 1960s "CORNBREAD" out of Philadelphia BLACK! RESPECT THE CULTURE WITH KNOWLEDGE NOT TRYING TO COPY US WITH NIGGAH..SHOW UR SKILLZ NOT PRENTEND... S/O to the EAST COAST...without out it...non Blacks on the west coast wouldn't feel the need to try and sound BLACK and then try and water down our culture..respect it..like KID FROST..AND MELLOW MAN ACE.. REAL RAZA... LATINO ROOTS... EDUCATE URSELF.

@stevehardison8768

Жыл бұрын

Good Shit.

@moneyeuros5361

Жыл бұрын

@@stevehardison8768 man I want to talk to you personally....you put all that truth out there

@jesseluciano1388

Жыл бұрын

@@moneyeuros5361 yeah make sure you get a do not disturb tag for that door 😂 🌈

@moneyeuros5361

Жыл бұрын

@@jesseluciano1388 thats your mind state...lol..and your visuals

been making music together since forever even eazy e fuckked with the brown side

@tyezillaOG

Жыл бұрын

He's taking about the being..it started on the east coast... eazy e wasn't even thought off...

@tyezillaOG

Жыл бұрын

@Truth Hurts365 Go listen to eazy e...

@tyezillaOG

Жыл бұрын

You listen to that song by eazy e? Point is..educate urself on other people's culture... all love here...but hip hop has been around...lot of other people are clueless about HIP HOP CULTURE...

You sound just like me regarding history. Latinos are guests in hip hop as well as white people are guests in Rock music. We are all guests in some respects. Black people are guests in the white dominated music industry. However, one statement from one man can not determine how two races of people will perceive themselves. Black people do not follow one person. We are all guests in a white dominated country. We should work together socioeconomically.

@AtmosphericAnatomy

Жыл бұрын

Naw that’s not accurate. Other then the language being forced on fba, the banjo 🪕, blues, jazz and funk is what created white country and rock. We influenced the world not the other way around

@thelink3066

Жыл бұрын

@@AtmosphericAnatomy i mean white people dominate the industry in regards to stock holders and ceos. Of course we made the music. I've left numerous comments saying so.

@thelink3066

Жыл бұрын

@@AtmosphericAnatomy no. The likes of Chuck Berry created rock music and Elvis stole the style. In those days white people was disowned for listening to black music. There's a whole movie on it.

I don't think race matters. It just matters if you're really from the streets. Doesn't matter if you're black, white, brown, asian, whatever.

@moneyeuros5361

Жыл бұрын

nah..hip hop aint about the street....its just the voice of black culture. Our culture was never about the streets.....just the reality

@BoricuaNyc

Жыл бұрын

@@moneyeuros5361 Hip hop started in the streets of NYC🗽with Blacks and Puerto Ricans🇵🇷

@jesseluciano1388

Жыл бұрын

@@moneyeuros5361 are you sure? Pretty sure "the message" was the realities and struggles yall faced on the streets. And yes in the beginning thats how it started....but thats not what it will ever be again except in the underground. Unless a complete 180 is done and i don't see it happening.

@moneyeuros5361

Жыл бұрын

@@jesseluciano1388 you have to understand the people. The Message covered it. Its more about The Culture of black people. Not so much the streets...but the streets are a part of it

This is an interesting question because, can the same question be raised about blacks who are not African American? Interestingly enough it was a Jamican who founded Hip Hop. Much of the culture of emecing or rapping and djing came from Jamaican music culture. But I feel like Hip Hop cross lines for many indigenous and people from the African diaspora.

@badseedent4827

Жыл бұрын

Y'all have to stop this lie the same guy you'll say started it goes out his way to say he didn't🤦🏾‍♂️ he also stated when he tried playing Jamaican music at his parties nobody wanted to hear that ... The elements of hip-hop were already there through Funk blues and jazz all created by black Americans

@OriginalKing100

Жыл бұрын

LOL!!! the guy who came to America at 12 and adopted black American culture.....and played black american music

@lebronjordan3098

Жыл бұрын

American blacks were already rapping as far back as the 1920s.

@JessieHewing-oh1bj

Жыл бұрын

@@lebronjordan3098 I know, I said aspect of emcing came from Jamaican culture

@JessieHewing-oh1bj

Жыл бұрын

@@badseedent4827 elements of hip hop can also be found in classic dance hall

Rap really started with. Here Comes The Judge - Pigmeat Markham (1968)

To each his own let's use this for what it's for social media spread word spread knowledge and learn

@MudvilleMedia

Жыл бұрын

Yes sir

DJ Disco Wiz is a Cuban/Puerto Rican who was one of the first hip hop djs at the same time and places such as DJ Kool Herc, Grandmaster Flash, and Afrika Bambaataa

@ggstatertots

Жыл бұрын

Even in the west coast in the Bay the DJs would be of any race at the same parties and clubs. Didn't matter if you were black, Mexican, Filipino, Chinese, white, Arab, Polynesian, or whatever. Shit, even DJ Qbert won so many back to back World DJ Competitions in the 90s as a Filipino American dude from Daly City/San Francisco.

@miklok433

Жыл бұрын

@@ggstatertots you hardly hear west coast black people talk down on Latinos or Asians like that, like they don't belong. Anyone who's been in the streets knows

@stevehardison8768

Жыл бұрын

One of the First, we are talking about thee first, we are talking about creators, not early participants.

@miklok433

Жыл бұрын

@@stevehardison8768 can you even name the first?

@moneyeuros5361

Жыл бұрын

Wiz was brought on by a black person...what type of music was Wiz playing ? They go into black spaces

Mane y’all gotta stop trying make it seem like y’all made our culture. Y’all wasn’t DJaying, producing records, rapping or singing. Them Puerto Rican’s was be boying and break dancing. Y’all ain’t really add nothin 🤷🏾‍♂️

@BalthasarRodellega

Жыл бұрын

@Truth Hurts365 you obviously don’t know rap history. Maybe all that incest from your pedo Catholic Church got your brain all warped

@peeweesconi5125

Жыл бұрын

@Truth Hurts365 are you dumb our music was based off our pain and struggles and hardships… back when it actually meant something all that other shit came later mfs wasn’t talm bout selling dope til the end of the 80s early 90s but by then hip hop was already well established my boi good one tho u tried 😂😂🤣🤣

@stevehardison8768

Жыл бұрын

@Truth Hurts365 Last time I checked Chicano rappers were rapping about the same ignorant shit only difference is, it dose not sound as good. And we ain't talking about you in non of our songs we are only thinking about ourselves.

@jesseluciano1388

Жыл бұрын

nah we aint made shit foo we contributed tho. Never layed claim to puerto ricans CREATING rap they just had a hand in helping craft that early ny sound early 80s to mid to later 90s which rap in the late 80s migrated out west and the rest is history, no different than the mf mexicans helping craft that early 90s gangsta west coast sound. I get it though black folks get everything fuckin stolen from them and it's ridiculous so no matter hm I want credit for my people I can't help but to try to understand where you comin from bro.

@theoracle4010

Жыл бұрын

@Truth Hurts365 Nigga plz we rap about black inner city shìt and we also talk about Larry Hoover big meech bumpy Johnston B stupid Real niggas Real hood legends ain’t nobody black talking bout no Mexican American when they rap 🤣🤣🤷🏾‍♂️ y’all not the ones with the coke it’s the real Mexican from the homeland stop trying to take credit for other niggas work

Nah no Puerto Ricans are black they usually identify with blacks, that's what separates them from Mexicans. A large portion of Ricans run with blacks .. with that being said ain't nothing wrong with being a guest .. I honest like the way young northerners be spitting ... not a big fan of the ol school extra'd ese music to me that's not even rap or hip hop... will just call that genre southern Raza music

@peeweesconi5125

Жыл бұрын

THATS CAPPPPP Puerto Ricans Cubans Dominicans do not claim to be black they claim to be Latino and Puerto Ricans didn’t help create hip hop they just jumped on the ship early when it popped off that’s why everybody think they help create it but they don’t identify as black which is why I say blacks created hip hop

@topshelf372

Жыл бұрын

@@peeweesconi5125 as a black man when I look at Ricans and dominicans I see black folk so yeah my opinion is rap is black period

@peeweesconi5125

Жыл бұрын

@@topshelf372 you may see that but they don’t see that you can’t make somebody be what they don’t wanna be bro even though you see who they really are

@topshelf372

Жыл бұрын

@@peeweesconi5125 you right but them niggas black!!!

@peeweesconi5125

Жыл бұрын

They is shid them mfs be darker than me speaking Spanish and got the nerve to tell me he ain’t black 😭😭😭 ol confused ass mfs

No, they were right there from the begining helping make hip hop what it is today.

@stevehardison8768

Жыл бұрын

Based off of What, no body can answer the question.

@eb4686

Жыл бұрын

Omg quit stealing Black people shit.

@OriginalKing100

Жыл бұрын

@@stevehardison8768 nobody has yet to answer the question..none what so ever......lol...no receipts

Would be pretty dumb to give Latinos an n word pass then turn around and call them guests in hip hop 🤡. Latinos and Blacks have a lot of shared experiences in the US.

@stevehardison8768

Жыл бұрын

We have a lot of shared experiences but not a lot of shared history, from the 1900's until now.

@kidkid985

Жыл бұрын

I don’t agree with blacks giving Latinos the n word pass at all

@juliostevens9480

Жыл бұрын

If you guys wanna go down that route I’d say Puerto Ricans, Dominicans and other Afro Latinos shouldn’t be considered guests in Hip Hop though. Dominicans and Puerto Ricans are the only Latinos that constantly have the Black man in their culture. Cubans in the States are prejudice and most brag about how they consider themselves to be White.

@kidkid985

Жыл бұрын

@@juliostevens9480 I’d agree

@chosenone3527

Жыл бұрын

Most black people don't give Latinos N word passes

No one owns a genre

@tyezillaOG

Жыл бұрын

That's like saying Chicanos don't own ur culture... LOL... y'all CATS are funny... and young...learn ur history

@Student0Toucher

Жыл бұрын

@@tyezillaOG Im not saying its a not a black created culture…We can’t take that away from yall!! But you don’t own it! Anybody can participate just like theres Black western cowboys or black lowrider clubs!! Yes Us chicanos created it but we don’t own it and can’t gatekeep.

@tyezillaOG

Жыл бұрын

@@Student0ToucherI hear what ur trying to say....

@Student0Toucher

Жыл бұрын

@@tyezillaOG Fasho

@Supreme-yh7hj

Жыл бұрын

but black people created it

Lmfao no, we were the first DJs & Breakers and obviously the best Graffiti artists. Lets be real, none of this wouldn't have been created if not to impress and entice Spanish women. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@tyezillaOG

Жыл бұрын

Stop it... the 1st dj was Black "Dj cool herc" stop embarrassing urself... rap hip hop is for those who respect the culture of hip hop... y'all CAT are clueless on how Hip Hop and why hip hop was started in the 1st place... breaking and graff have always had a good presence of Puerto Ricans 🇵🇷..who and again are part of the African gene pool. . Where the problem lies is misinformation and non blacks running around like little kids trying too act gheeto and black and then tell other black people "I can say that word.... you guys do...nobody trips on me saying niccah " shyt is funny....but other than that..it's all love... just gotta get ur rapping skillz up....

@EndZone1_

Жыл бұрын

You need to get off that meth, what’s next Michael Jordan was inspired by Pedro infante. Raza always said los morenos cry for everything now look at y’all, abuelos turning in they graves no mames llorones !!

@danksinatra5977

Жыл бұрын

To impress and entice Spanish women🤣🤣🤣

@stevehardison8768

Жыл бұрын

Who do you mean by we.

@djrancho2232

Жыл бұрын

Nah there was jamaican djs bc of dancehall. anyone will tell you it was both jamaicans and ricans bro

Man some of these comments are unbelievable!!😂🤦🏾‍♂️

@jesseluciano1388

Жыл бұрын

oh yes they are, its almost like some people want history reversed and want to add irrelevant history to try to change reality🤣then when you really speak sense they read over it and pick and choose the words they want to focus on and cry over. No matter what the opinion is people should just agree on a middle ground and agree to disagree on the rest, everyone and every race gonna have their own position and thoughts on it.

What about photographers who documented these times? The baby pictures of hip-hop, Joe conzo ? A Latino? Is that not part of the creation? When rock steady crew came into the picture is when it was called hip-hop, and as what's documented they weren't doing acrobatic moves and didn't have hat structure that you see today in the breaking. If anything we aren't a guest of hip-hop but we definitely have a room in the house and a VIP section. We also have African blood in us. And yes the whole conversation is ignorant.

@dryinkdryink675

8 ай бұрын

Those weren't the early days....he was mainly for cold crush.....Black people didn't need him

Latinos helped create this thing we called HipHop facts. It’s our culture as well. 🇨🇺🇵🇷🇲🇽🇩🇴

@tyezillaOG

Жыл бұрын

Mexicans didn't fam... just being real.... and I'm half.

@iBdan97

Жыл бұрын

@@tyezillaOG not in NY but California / Texas fasho had early Mexican hip hop beginnings

@iBdan97

Жыл бұрын

@@tyezillaOG not hip hop more gangsta rap if anything

@tyezillaOG

Жыл бұрын

@@iBdan97 I feel u homie..all love and respect here....

@stevehardison8768

Жыл бұрын

To Enoch TK Based off of What.

Bruh puerto ricans are black ppl who speak spanish. Dont ever compare us mexicans with them we are not the same

@stevehardison8768

Жыл бұрын

Damn.

@jesseluciano1388

Жыл бұрын

not all ricans are dark skinned geez us you is narrow minded only lookin at skin color n shit

@Supreme-yh7hj

Жыл бұрын

not all pureto ricans are black lmao

@peeweesconi5125

Жыл бұрын

AND YALL HAVE IT FROM THE HORSES MOUTH MEXICANS ARE A GUEST IN HIP HOP

@cristianzuniga569

Жыл бұрын

Yea we definitely not the same people 🇲🇽

Lol!!! Boricua s their when when hip hop was birthed. People need to understand that Soundview is the birth place. The Boogie Down. The genre itself if is a melting pot of African American, Puerto Rican, Jamaican kids back then. Look at Bomba which has influenced many genres. That allows for improvised lyrics and so forth. The B-Boys. I mean Puerto Ricans we’re there before the 5 elements and during. Mexicans were not part of the creation. We are all indigenous but we are different. I don’t think the Mexican culture at that time would be able to tap in because of the non-mixing and the fact there weren’t as many of any in the South Bronx. It’s not about separating Latinos. You miss the whole point. It’s about hip hop and since you like history it’s about hip hop history. Mexicans are Latinos just not the ones that help create hip hop.

Pitbull, Bad Bunny , Fat Joe and Daddy Yankee made a killing in hip hop

@North209

Жыл бұрын

Which of none is Mexican

@bladebrown8261

Жыл бұрын

@@North209 just saying they Latinos so why can’t they be as successful

@jesseluciano1388

Жыл бұрын

@@North209 six nine was half mexican😆and half rican😞😒he made it to the fbi tho so hip hop got him somewhere lol

@idiotu668

Жыл бұрын

STFU... Fat Joe been copying Hip Hop for 30 Years and ONLY sold 3 million albums 🤣 He ain't killing nothing in Hip Hop FAT JOE sold over 1,560,000 albums, including 1,500,000 in the United States and 60,000 in the United Kingdom. The best-selling album by FAT JOE is J.O.S.E. (JEALOUS ONES STILL ENVY), which sold over 1,060,000 copies .

@28princessbella

8 ай бұрын

All culture vultures

Being indigenous doesn’t mean you’re all the same. An indigenous tribe in native cultures is a nation. In fact nations fought each other. Another thing is that Mexico enslaved and erased many Indian cultures. So to say it’s your land is bs. What about the land of the Ohlone, Miwqk and so on that Mexico slaughtered and erased their culture on ranchos. Blacks have more a connection to America than Latins because for example Choctaw Indians were some of the biggest slave owners. Many African Americans have Choctaw ancestry. People need to open a book a learn history. If the Aztecs walked up to Seminoles there would be war. Stop claiming every indigenous cultures. That’s like someone from Africa claiming Nigerian when in reality they from Ethiopia. I always tell anyone who doesn’t like what I say to prove me wrong. You’ll learn quick that I’m right.

@Student0Toucher

Жыл бұрын

Mexican culture is way more based on indigenous traditions than African Americans lol stop it

@at2130

Жыл бұрын

It's still indigenous blood dummy. Mexicans are just indigenous mixed with Spanish and African. Black people barely have any native blood that's a myth.

@ljv2094

Жыл бұрын

That's totally right I'm Mexican I kinda cringe when that argument is made and depending what part of Mexico you are in reality many of us Mexican are mostly European in our blood. My dads family has nothing but green and blue eyes it is what it is 🤷

@MudvilleMedia

Жыл бұрын

What does slavery have to do with anything? Africans enslaved Africans in Africa as well

@BalthasarRodellega

Жыл бұрын

@@MudvilleMedia obviously you can’t read. It means that Africans were sold to native Americans by the 10’s of thousands and why so many African Americans have native ancestry. They are more connected to America than you. The Aztec empire wasn’t in Choctaw territory. Also Mexico stole California from indigenous tribes. Also Africans that enslaved Africans didn’t use chattel slavery like Europeans, they used indentured servitude which is very different. You obviously need to open a book and understand reality.

Real Latin music is band music salsa dance & Zoot suits Fat Joe wrong... Can't call dibs on somethin you ain't start now.. other races rapping just makes us feel like proud dads.... remember we were slaves.... and now people wanna dress talk and make music like us... dance like us too, Its so dope....

@jesseluciano1388

Жыл бұрын

thats what I thought too but alot of black folks have misdirected hate thanks to the media, they know they can control people with hate easily thats why they only publicize black killings on the news now when its BEEN going on they trying to make yall snap. Don't fall for the okie doke, the feds are behind all of it...just like they were providing bricks to white looters then hopped on the news and made it seem like it was black people because antifa was writing and yelling BLM. This is a psychological war and blacks whites and mexicans are gonna have to be stronger than what we see today, or we are done as a human race. I don't think we'll ever see that though, their plan has worked too well on the useful idiots.

Anybody that's not black american is a guest in hip hop

Latinos created the taco 🌮

@jerrygraves6531

2 күн бұрын

Nope blacks did 50/50

Go to Federal Prison and the Paisas won’t play you being down

Latinos in NY started the rap game

@bladerunner2287

Жыл бұрын

no they didnt lmao they were break danicing and graffiti artist mind you black people were all doing that before latinos got involved except for the graffiti

@kidkid985

Жыл бұрын

lol no they didn’t

@iBdan97

Жыл бұрын

As a Latino you trippin lol

@chosenone3527

Жыл бұрын

Man no they didn't lol

@FlyTyBlizzy

Жыл бұрын

You didn't even know how to dress

Good job trying to explain but Here's the truth FBA mobile DJ sound systems and block parties back after WW1 welcoming home black soldiers to their blocks was the start of block parties here in America and that influenced sound system culture in Jamaica and our R&B ,jazz and funk music influenced ska and rocksteady music in Jamaica, Which is the precursor to reggae music. So we influenced their music and culture not the other way around and all their artists that created those music genres and their dancehall culture said it including Bob Marley, UROY and many more jamaican music pioneers. FBA created 100% of the elements of hip hop. Puerto Ricans and Caribbeans came later and were just participants contributing to the culture AFTER it was ALREADY created. So no FBA created every element of hip hop period. Just because they were AROUND and participating doesn't mean you created it. Kool Herc did not create beat juggling and extended beat looping which he just copied from FBA DJs and gave it his own name the merry go round. But he didn't create it. Also them hip hop started at a kids birthday party at Kool Hercs house in 1973 is asinine and insane. Millions of kids birthday parties doing what Herc at the age of 17 at the time was doing and that was just playing records at a Bray party. Herc did not create nothing. Like The Lord Jamar said he just benefited from a marketing scheme that was popularized from a News report about hip hop and rap that went global and Herc was featured and news organizations worldwide picked that up and in that report they called him the father of hip hop' The problem is that we FBA never corrected that lie and perception' But we're doing some straightening right now and will correct all this BS' let this debate be had because the lies need to be corrected and we need to gatekeep our cultures from now on. Herc is not the father. Puerto Ricans Also Did Not Create Any Element Of Hip Hop During its early founding stage in the early 70s Including Breakdancing' FBA Created Breakdancing Too' Puerto Ricans Came In The Second Generation In The Late 70s And 80s. Hip Hop Elements Were Already Created Before That' Kool Herc Is Also Not A Creator Of Hip Hop' Herc Did Not Create Any Element Of Hip Hop Culture They Are Participants And Contributors After The Fact' So You Need To Correct Your Knowledge And History. Even Crazy Legs Says Puerto Ricans Are Not The Creators Of Hip Hop But The Contributed' So Stop Spreading These Falsehoods' It Is Very Damaging To FBA Culture. You Do Not Need To Be From NY For Hip Hop To Be Your Culture' You Only Have To Be FBA African American Because The Elements And Culture Developed By Them In Many Parts Of The Country Not Just NY The Real Founding DJ's Were From The Carolinas And Some Other Places In The Country' The First Hip Hop Graffiti Artists Was From Philly, Popping And Locking A Part Of Breakdancing Is From Cali So It Is FBA Culture Not Bronx Culture Alone' We Should Not Separate The Culture By Geographic Location' That Is How We Get All These Straw Man Arguments' Keep It Where It Belongs, To The Lineage And That Is African American Or FBA This whole conversation is about the CREATION of hip hop, not the contributions that came later. So again, FBA created 100% of hip hop and 90% of all popular music genres and influenced sub genres worldwide. it is so funny how you here a lot of these immigrant tethers say FBA has no culture. it's crazy when we literally influence most of the culture globally' you hear just about everyone globally talking with our slang and vernacular. Dressing our fashion styles, rapping. Breakdancing. Doing graffiti. Hip Hop DJing, We are the chosen ones the bible speaks of' The chosen creators in the image of GOD the creator' This is biblical' and we FBA are the light of the world and that is facts' and whyte peepo is not let off the culture vulture list either because look at what is happening today' These media conglomerates are trying to replace FBA in music and hip hop' just look at the VMA awards and music today' their were so many whyte rappers and musicians their and they are gate keeping FBA OUT of entertainment, sports, politics, corporations, and other industries look at the NBA, the lightening up and the immigrant replacing us' This is literally an agenda that is being brought forth by the dominant society to replace FBA in all walks of life, and then say we are failures. Just wake up FBA and look around; we are being replaced and g e n o c i d e d off the face of the earth' WAKE UP, this is bigger than hip hop'

Mayans and Taínos are two totally different ppl group. Your comparison is flawed. A Black person from England or The Bahama are not the same as me because we both speak English. A Black person from Iowa or Illinois isn’t the same comparison. Mexicans and Puerto Ricans are not the same Because they both speak Spanish. lmao

1:34 you can say that, because NY did start it…andddd blacks don’t politic their culture like that….they only have what Africa and Caribbean area but dnt focus so hard on “culture” unless they’re immigrants

Taino are the most influential people you failed to mention

@chameliosalamander8029

Жыл бұрын

Blacks are the most influential people om earth

@yahadyashabbat9364

Жыл бұрын

@@chameliosalamander8029 So you think black is a nationality?

@chameliosalamander8029

Жыл бұрын

@@yahadyashabbat9364 no its a race of people we the most hated and admired group of people

@yahadyashabbat9364

Жыл бұрын

@@chameliosalamander8029 Bro, you let this wicked society make you think black is a race. Whatever they decide to name you, you accept it. We were negros,Afro (a hairstyle) American,African American( two continents) colored, black. And every time they change it we call ourselves that. We aren’t a color my guy

@chameliosalamander8029

Жыл бұрын

@@yahadyashabbat9364 enlighten me, what are we?

Puerto Ricans helped build hip hop in the bronx so i don't think latinos are guests in hip hop big pun kicked down that door long ago as he was the first latino artist to win a rap grammy

@stevehardison8768

Жыл бұрын

Based off of what.

@jesseluciano1388

Жыл бұрын

@@stevehardison8768 based off wtf i said can ya read? puerto ricans was the first latinos rappin period before blacks or mexicans was rappin on the mf west coast. Big Pun, the most recognized not only puerto rican rapper but MAINSTREAM LATINO rapper cuz he won a mf grammy which was a big deal in 99, Dude from fatboys was puerto rican and the examples go on. Go do yo research n come back to me. I wouldn't dare lie 2 ya...Puerto Ricans were right there with blacks when this shit was birthed, end ov arguement. Mexicans helped pioneered that gangsta west coast shit we all know n luv lol

@stevehardison8768

Жыл бұрын

@@jesseluciano1388 You lied all ready. You said Puerto Ricans helped build Hip Hop in the Bronx, What element, When, and Who. Big Pun was rappin in the 1990's so he is not a creator as Hip Hop was created in the Early 1970's. Prince Markie Dee and the Fat boys were rappin in the 1980's and they are not creators of Hip Hop as Hip Hop was created in the early 1970's. And the first Gangster Rapper is Ice T 1983, Followed by N.W.A. 1986. You said Puerto Ricans helped build Hip Hop in the Bronx, What element, When, and Who.

@almightyguappy790

Жыл бұрын

@@stevehardison8768 u never heard of Crazy Legs Fabel Paser Pabon and the list goes on

@stevehardison8768

Жыл бұрын

​@@almightyguappy790 Yes, crazy legs was a Puerto Rican BreakDancer who still performs from time to time. Crazy legs was born in 1966, as Lindy hoppin goes back to the 1920's, pop locking goes back to the late 1960's with Black Folks in Fresno California, and BreakDancing as we know it is early 1970's. And the Rock Steady Crew hit the scene in 1983. Once again what did Latino's create. Being a participant does not make you a creator. FBA ROOTS OF BREAKDANCING. BreakDancing kzread.info/dash/bejne/k5yjrLSemabHgM4.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/epumj5iFkbbLgaQ.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/l3iB2JWCeKrWnqQ.html

My ricans were one of the originators we started this shit

@QuatMan

Жыл бұрын

No, they came 10 years after Black Americans were already doing it.

@luisrivera3275

Жыл бұрын

@@QuatMan Rican infested South Bronx 🇵🇷 you know wtf it is 👊🏼

@jerrygraves6531

2 күн бұрын

No tell us what specifically did Puerto Ricans do then?

Not all Latinos but def ricans… we where big part of the foundation back when it started..

@chosenone3527

Жыл бұрын

ALL Latinos are guests in Hip-Hop

@killadelphia215

Жыл бұрын

@@chosenone3527 not to the ones who actually matter….The legends have spoken.

@NOLUCKMVCK

Жыл бұрын

@@killadelphia215 and they don't agree with you that's why yall don't ever comment on those videos

Hell nah we are owners of this beautiful art we called hip hop and all of its elements.

@chosenone3527

Жыл бұрын

Latinos are guests in Hip-Hop

@sway9044

Жыл бұрын

@@chosenone3527 nope been there since it’s inception. It’s well documented.

Yes. Guest passes about to expire tho.

Puerto Ricans didn't create Hip-hop 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣