DJ Tony Touch Defends Fat Joe's Latino Hip Hop Comments with History Lesson | TMZ

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Fat Joe had a Latino appreciation post blow up in his face because fans thought he was insinuating hip hop was just as much Hispanic culture as it was Black.
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  • @truthiscensored
    @truthiscensored Жыл бұрын

    Fun Fact: Those DJ's were spinning Break Beats from American FUNK songs (James Browns, Parliment, etc)...They was not spinning Bob Marley Break Beats, nor salsa nor samba music So without FUNK music, their is no Hip Hop music/culture so knock it off

  • @billyjacc

    @billyjacc

    Жыл бұрын

    So was Puerto Ricans... The kids in my neighborhood was listening to same music and the DJ's was playing the same.

  • @smarke76

    @smarke76

    Жыл бұрын

    @@billyjacc you funny. That's a lie.

  • @elmascholo13

    @elmascholo13

    Жыл бұрын

    exactly its a contribution of blacks and latinos and many other things in life........eventually whites got involved and put their touch on it but that was way later........It was literally a human collaboration........english people learned how to speak english words first.......we rap in english so are they the real origin? come on.......this is sad.....latinos were there from the start no doubt about it......whiper whip was fucking with kool herc before caz put him on

  • @TonyBambino

    @TonyBambino

    Жыл бұрын

    @@elmascholo13 so basically you're trying to "all lives matter" the origins of hip hop, stop it.

  • @Soufside_Slim

    @Soufside_Slim

    Жыл бұрын

    @@billyjacc you a damn lie 😂😂...Every Modern PR artist incorporate Spanish language in their art, yet it was nowhere to be found in Hip Hop. Why? Because it was Black American culture. Yeah right PR were listening to Black American music like that and dancing to James Brown "break beats."😂😂😂😂😂

  • @timothytaylor9835
    @timothytaylor9835 Жыл бұрын

    He trying to make Kool Herc and Flash into Puerto Ricans. Puerto Ricans are opportunist not inventor's of black music.

  • @BoricuaNyc

    @BoricuaNyc

    Жыл бұрын

    NewYorkRicans🇵🇷🗽help create hip hop culture

  • @ShaMoneyMOB

    @ShaMoneyMOB

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BoricuaNyc na y’all just lookin for a place in our history book n it ain’t gon happen! We claimin hip hop SA

  • @gamblerschoicestreetappare2897

    @gamblerschoicestreetappare2897

    Жыл бұрын

    I see the same thing.

  • @thetruth997_

    @thetruth997_

    Жыл бұрын

    Kool Herc said black Americans didn't like Reggae lmao he couldn't play Jamaican music over here 💀

  • @thetruth997_

    @thetruth997_

    Жыл бұрын

    Black music is really AMERICAN black music 🇺🇸. Let's be real lol

  • @Shade_223
    @Shade_223 Жыл бұрын

    So a few Puerto Ricans means you 50/50 created hip hop wow this is so ignorant you realize hip hop is a mix a different black created music genres

  • @killianmurdoc3152

    @killianmurdoc3152

    Жыл бұрын

    A lot of “blacks” were mixed! DMC from run DMC was half Latino. You didn’t know that right? Mr Magic the creator of the JUICE CREW WAS LATINO!!!!!!!!!! Go learn something!

  • @maxwellbrisk5622

    @maxwellbrisk5622

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, black american created genres, even Reggae derives from black americans and this is said on film by Reggae pioneers

  • @Bigk3695
    @Bigk3695 Жыл бұрын

    Just because they were in the movie doesn't mean they created anything and cool herc never said he created anything. All of his interviews he never even said that.

  • @mackwitdavortexx

    @mackwitdavortexx

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly. They never said that disrespectful ish

  • @carbon6951

    @carbon6951

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, and we're all beginning to see who the common denominator is on spreading these false rumors.. Everyone that continues to say this appear to be also Caribbean.. What a coincidence 🤔

  • @5ivestarchik
    @5ivestarchik Жыл бұрын

    Y'all didn't create shit, stop🗣

  • @IsraeliteJudhite

    @IsraeliteJudhite

    Жыл бұрын

    he a mad culture vulture Just like that SPANIARD Anual AA saying his music goes the hardest when he is speaking Spanish lol But yet his entire image is a carbon copy of the black man’s swag They want to be the blk man but hate the blk man

  • @jermaine_blackman9817

    @jermaine_blackman9817

    Жыл бұрын

    They love to tether on to our culture, but they can’t stand us as people. Make it make sense 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @Geoworldwide

    @Geoworldwide

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jermaine_blackman9817 more like you can't stand us but love our woman.. And not your own 🤭

  • @Geoworldwide

    @Geoworldwide

    Жыл бұрын

    @@commonsenseisnowasuperpowe5275 More like facts that you cant address correctly because of your racist self hatred ignorance

  • @jermaine_blackman9817

    @jermaine_blackman9817

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Geoworldwide no sir, we love our sisters, it’s not our fault all races of women love us, cuz of our looks, our body and our masculinity. Too bad they don’t want a short, overweightttt h.i.p.a.n.I.c… 🤣🤣

  • @hgoines1
    @hgoines1 Жыл бұрын

    There is a reason this video only has a few thousand views. Hip Hop and all of its elements were created by FBA. There were a few contributors who weren't, but they weren't creators. The truth must be told.

  • @rolandbush8463
    @rolandbush8463 Жыл бұрын

    Black folks can put the earliest dates on all five of the elements. Not one of these islanders has yet to come out with earlier dates.

  • @djmagnumti6268
    @djmagnumti6268 Жыл бұрын

    The 1st 2 Latino rappers ever to surface in Hip Hop was Whipper whip. and Ruby Dee, Grand master Caz put them on. But in a recent interview they even admitted Latinos had nothing to do with creating Hip Hop. Even crazy legs said the same in a separate interview. They were influenced by it; they didn't create it. So, IDK what Tony talking about, Tony seems to be a lil bit Touched!

  • @josemor2719

    @josemor2719

    Жыл бұрын

    Well I have also seen interviews on which they say the opposite.

  • @elmascholo13

    @elmascholo13

    Жыл бұрын

    nah man....theres a big missconception.......when did hip hop start? it was not pigmeat markham.......If you listen to that interview caz put them on for his group but whipper whip was fucking with Kool herc way before that........Latinos were there from the very beginning and they helped create the american version of hip hop.........Tony is 100% correct...

  • @ConquerWealth.network

    @ConquerWealth.network

    Жыл бұрын

    @@elmascholo13 Caz wasn't even at the very beginning and the Bronxdale boys who are the Black spaded the ones who were the original DJs like DJ Mario, Pete DJ Jones and DJ Hollywood is who kool Herc was copyiing and boys that created hip hop said Pigmeat Markum and the Jubileers are the ones they were immolating' Every Element of hip hop was already created before Kool Herc or Puerto Ricans came along' so they did bot CREATE any element of hip hop' they added to it later but did not create it'

  • @jameleason590

    @jameleason590

    Жыл бұрын

    @@elmascholo13 that's a lie hispanics had they own music Period they wasn't messing with nothing Black's aka morenos had going on. hip hop is a spinoff of Jazz and Rythm and blues music why you think those blues samples come from that's all Blackmusic for acceptance of a couple and they got it from those very same people stop it smh.

  • @arod1766

    @arod1766

    Жыл бұрын

    He didn’t said Latinos created it. He said Latinos been there since day 1. South Bronx was a mixed hood. Blacks and Caribbean people

  • @bevers-pz1gz
    @bevers-pz1gz Жыл бұрын

    But Kool Herc And Flash didn’t start it either. They were doing what was already being done by Disco Dj during that time.

  • @ericwilliams7394
    @ericwilliams7394 Жыл бұрын

    Saying Latinos created hip hop is like saying you're your stepfather is your biological father. although stepdad may have paid rent bought food took care of you. Under no shape form of fashion is he your biological dad. The argument is not if Latinos participated the argument is hip hop and its origin was not created by Latinos. Latinos borrowed it and added their own flavor just as they had done with reggaeton.. and now they call it Spanish reggae.

  • @sterlingturner5420

    @sterlingturner5420

    Жыл бұрын

    Facts!

  • @EVERLASTING12000

    @EVERLASTING12000

    Жыл бұрын

    "Saying Latinos created hip hop is like saying you're your stepfather is your biological father. although stepdad may have paid rent bought food took care of you. Under no shape form of fashion is he your biological dad." This is a bad analogy. Metaphorically speaking, what rent and food and how did PRs take care of us in hip-hop?

  • @brickflipper5273
    @brickflipper5273 Жыл бұрын

    This is bs. Black Americans created hip hop. This is cap

  • @IsraeliteJudhite

    @IsraeliteJudhite

    Жыл бұрын

    Of course it’s cap This Spaniard is mentioning New York for a reason It’s a deceptive way to bypass black musical foundation that hip hop is actually derived from He’s a 🤡 and knows he don’t want no smoke with real history and fax

  • @Jeff-xv6gk

    @Jeff-xv6gk

    Жыл бұрын

    Facts tired of these Ricans

  • @deeboii1825

    @deeboii1825

    10 ай бұрын

    💯 sick of thisssssss

  • @XTRABIG

    @XTRABIG

    9 ай бұрын

    wrong. u weren't there. i saw many groups making contributions- Island people, latins, blacks, white. Look up grand wizard Theodore. he invented scratching on records. where is he from?

  • @carlmuhammad3968
    @carlmuhammad3968 Жыл бұрын

    Wrong Tony hip hop didn't start by Jamaicans nor Puerto Ricans respect to both hip hop culture by black American youth of NYC the Black Spades 1971 in the Bronxdale projects in Rosedale Park was the first hip hop jam the Dj King Mario was before Kool Herc, Afrika Bambatta and Grand Master Flash they came to Bronxdale Puerto Ricans were there but a few @ that time most them didn't like black people & called our music jungle music only a few were there in the beginning but they didn't start anything they picked up where we left off in the early 80s not the 70s

  • @BoricuaNyc

    @BoricuaNyc

    Жыл бұрын

    And Disco Mario King is Puerto Rican🇵🇷from North Carolina. His father was in North Carolina in 1917. He’s just dark like Roberto Clemente and Alpo Martinez

  • @thetruth997_

    @thetruth997_

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BoricuaNyc You are such a liar lmao shut up you tether with those dusty flags 🤣

  • @kanarcydalive1579

    @kanarcydalive1579

    Жыл бұрын

    Dj King Mario influence was Kool DJ Dee nd DJ Tyrone

  • @billyjacc

    @billyjacc

    Жыл бұрын

    Jungle music?? I've never heard anyone say that. My family or friends. Considering Puerto Ricans born in PR are from a Tropical Island 🏝, and have always played the Bongo Drums, Timbali's, Congas, Cowbell, etc.

  • @AJ-pc5ln

    @AJ-pc5ln

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BoricuaNyc Disco King Mario is not Puerto Rican 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @MR.BRODYMAN
    @MR.BRODYMAN Жыл бұрын

    The timeline and truth will be shown in due time. The OGs are coming together to clear up the bs.

  • @Mikejones-zg6xg
    @Mikejones-zg6xg Жыл бұрын

    Blacks from America Been rapping down south since 1920's look it up

  • @robertomontalvo7099

    @robertomontalvo7099

    Жыл бұрын

    Sorry but we talking about hip hop even if I see where u going with this not the same in my eyes

  • @TheDavisfreak

    @TheDavisfreak

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertomontalvo7099 Who cares about your eyes though? You’re not qualified to call the shots and say what Hip Hop is and what it isn’t. It’s not your culture.

  • @robertomontalvo7099

    @robertomontalvo7099

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheDavisfreak I feel the same buddy about you buddy

  • @IsraeliteJudhite

    @IsraeliteJudhite

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertomontalvo7099 You can feel what you want History says it’s black music Have a seat Spaniard

  • @IsraeliteJudhite

    @IsraeliteJudhite

    Жыл бұрын

    @@johnnypacheco3491 Just cuz you a Spaniard don’t try to make me one lol

  • @timothytaylor9835
    @timothytaylor9835 Жыл бұрын

    Grandmaster Caz said Puerto Ricans had absolutely nothing to do with the actual invention of hip hop.

  • @BoricuaNyc

    @BoricuaNyc

    Жыл бұрын

    Grandmasters Caz was in diapers when NewYorkRicans🇵🇷🗽were creating hip hop culture 🇵🇷🗽🇵🇷🗽🇵🇷🗽🇵🇷🗽🇵🇷

  • @kendu1327

    @kendu1327

    Жыл бұрын

    As far as back you can go Spanish was always a part of hip hop ...facts

  • @IsraeliteJudhite

    @IsraeliteJudhite

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BoricuaNyc What musical foundation does a Spaniard come from to make such claims that he “co created” hip hop? Let’s check the facts shall we Jazz Soul R&B Funk Rock N Roll A Spaniard created nothing Just like all races…he was simply standing next to the black man as he was engineering his craft

  • @IsraeliteJudhite

    @IsraeliteJudhite

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kendu1327 Uhh no it wasn’t have a seat Spaniard AFRICA was always a part of hip hop

  • @kendu1327

    @kendu1327

    Жыл бұрын

    Are you from New York, Do you remember the 1st generation, Charlie Chase, Tony tone, OC Whipple whip, The devastated Tito And many more.... Go look at the video the fearless 4 problems of the world today, And like I said mellie mel and his brother kid keole is half Puerto rican

  • @TheDavisfreak
    @TheDavisfreak Жыл бұрын

    Why do they only do this to us black Americans and our culture? Our culture has to be picked apart and everyone has to claim a hand in our creation, but everyone else’s culture gets to be sacred and kept to themselves? IF YOU ARE NOT BLACK AMERICAN, STOP CLAIMING BLACK AMERICAN CULTURE!!!!!!

  • @freeplax17

    @freeplax17

    Жыл бұрын

    We have no gate keepers to our culture so everyone thinks they can participate and appropriate what they like with giving credit to the originator.

  • @IsraeliteJudhite

    @IsraeliteJudhite

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brrrrrrelhelicopteroytefui5746 NOPE 👎 it was nothing but peurto ricans WATCHING black people engineer hip hop the same hip hop that is influenced by Pop Funk Jazz R&B Rock N Roll You know….ALL BLK MUSIC peurto ricans have no musical foundation to fall back on to claim they “co created” hip hop

  • @arrellehnisrael8229

    @arrellehnisrael8229

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brrrrrrelhelicopteroytefui5746 Most rappers today are islanders from the Caribbean so that explains the lame fanny packs. That also explains why hiphop is off code, less creative, more degenerate, and less conscious. Which also explains why the audience is less American Blacks. American blacks do not copy anyone else... the blacks who you see copying Latinos are Caribbean and African immigrants. Hiphop culture started in the south as far as the main elements. American blkpeople also were doing every aspect of dj-ing so by the time Herc (a Jamaican) came along... he simply copied what he saw others doing. There weren't any Puerto Ricans in sight. Many Puerto Ricans were wearing jackets with swastikas on them and disassociating from Blackpeople at that time. Look at Spike Lee's Do The Right Thing... and see how Puerto Ricans HATED rap music. Even today... you can only find a few Puerto Ricans in their 50s and 60s who love HIPHOP. Most hate it. But their children love it and now we got to fight this propaganda meant to mislead the youth. Too bad we got receipts and will easily dismantle these lies and embarrass Puerto Ricans publicly as a group.

  • @IsraeliteJudhite

    @IsraeliteJudhite

    Жыл бұрын

    @The Vessel It’s black culture

  • @TheDavisfreak

    @TheDavisfreak

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brrrrrrelhelicopteroytefui5746 “Fanny packs” really bro? 😂 that’s your contribution to hip hop as a Puerto Rican? Gtfoh!!! You can keep that sissified sh*t to yourselves. And we don’t have to be from New York to claim hip hop, because hip hop is a black American experience that does not include no damn Puerto Ricans.

  • @commonsenseisnowasuperpowe5275
    @commonsenseisnowasuperpowe5275 Жыл бұрын

    Latinos nor Jamaicans had absolutely no hand in the creation of hip hop, It's 100% Black American culture

  • @idk4778

    @idk4778

    Жыл бұрын

    Are you from 70s Bronx NY?

  • @mr.nyceguy7800

    @mr.nyceguy7800

    Жыл бұрын

    @@idk4778 F the 70's bronx.. hip hop started in the south, then was coined "hip hop" in ny. I suggest that you at least know Foundational Black American history before you try to steal it

  • @idk4778

    @idk4778

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mr.nyceguy7800 WHATTT?? You ain’t worth my time bye

  • @raykane2063

    @raykane2063

    Жыл бұрын

    Jamaicans just brought the WEED🥬

  • @commonsenseisnowasuperpowe5275

    @commonsenseisnowasuperpowe5275

    Жыл бұрын

    @@idk4778 he is speaking the truth

  • @jamaljameelphotography960
    @jamaljameelphotography960 Жыл бұрын

    Hip Hop started in the Bronx from what I understand. It didn’t come here from Jamaica, Barbados or Puerto Rico. “When in Rome, do what the Romans do.” I’m pretty sure that’s what those considered to be the founding fathers of Hip Hop did.

  • @XTRABIG

    @XTRABIG

    9 ай бұрын

    wrong. Jamaicans and Basians were building speakers and sound systems. They were rapping on records in Jamaica. Caribbean cats used to compete with their sound systems and MC skills

  • @AUTUMNSUN3000
    @AUTUMNSUN3000 Жыл бұрын

    Lol This is BS I'm laughing my ass off

  • @truthsaviour8804
    @truthsaviour8804 Жыл бұрын

    People often suggest that because Puerto Ricans appeared in the early movies centered around hip hop, gives them the right to claim the genre. The first recorded jazz record was produced featuring a white band. The first rock songs broadcast to the public featured white artist. We all know who created it now. Many Americans did not know then. Cool Herc came to the states at 13 years old. He was socialized as a black American and he played music by african americans. He did not play raggae or speak with an accent. They all adopted african american style and culture. Puerto Ricans did the same . That's the reason why you don't see any element of Latin culture in the music or dance of hip hop.

  • @AUTUMNSUN3000
    @AUTUMNSUN3000 Жыл бұрын

    Why don't people leave black folks alone everything positive we do they want to take and make it theirs history have shown this over and over again please leave black folks alone. These people talk bad about black folks they think they can take everything we make for themselves leave us alone.

  • @robertomontalvo7099

    @robertomontalvo7099

    Жыл бұрын

    Ya new generation bugged out I swear how about ya leaving those white women alone 😂 screaming black lives matter and making babies with European women ya make no sense

  • @ronaldray236

    @ronaldray236

    Жыл бұрын

    Facts black people make and the world takes

  • @copevortex

    @copevortex

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ronaldray236 Everyone takes from everyone, that’s life get over it

  • @mumuseer87

    @mumuseer87

    Жыл бұрын

    @@copevortex fact still remain that the originators (FBA) need to be respected. If Latinos help create Hip Hop, why aren’t most of their rappers chart toppers?

  • @BLACKNBIG4

    @BLACKNBIG4

    Жыл бұрын

    @@copevortex What did FBA take from Latinos and whites?

  • @thony1171
    @thony1171 Жыл бұрын

    What latino rapper is is in the top 5 rap category ? None . Black people created blues, rock and roll, r&b , country and more genres of music

  • @johnnypacheco3491

    @johnnypacheco3491

    Жыл бұрын

    BIG PUN

  • @thony1171

    @thony1171

    Жыл бұрын

    @@johnnypacheco3491 i never heard anyone say , put on big pun

  • @johnnypacheco3491

    @johnnypacheco3491

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thony1171 He's one of the greatest Mc .

  • @thony1171

    @thony1171

    Жыл бұрын

    @@johnnypacheco3491 well i expect you to say that

  • @johnnypacheco3491

    @johnnypacheco3491

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thony1171 Not just me even some brothers say Big Pun was one of the greatest MC

  • @baccgod942
    @baccgod942 Жыл бұрын

    For starters. Cool Herc was like 12 years old when he came to America, so he started a whole culture at 12? Secondly, he said himself he didn't create Hip Hop, so there's that. Thirdly, this guy is name dropping people and events like the movies that hit the scene in the early 80s and late 70s. Blk Americans had been fused the culture as long back as the 1920s with the likes of Pigmeat Markham. And lastly, there's no evidence of hip hop culture found anywhere in the Caribbean or Latin America nor any resemblance of an artist. This is just a money and cultural warfare tactic that's being pushed by someone or some group to disrespect blk American (decendants of enslaved people in America) culture, linage and heritage. I'm not gonna go and talk about how Puerto Ricans called the music and style of dance n word music and so back then. These people are 🤡

  • @mrt445

    @mrt445

    Жыл бұрын

    If people want to say Jamaicans were there from the start and contributed I understand but Ricans were not.

  • @marceezy6983

    @marceezy6983

    Жыл бұрын

    All I know hip hop was made by African Americans and hip hop is all over the world there's rappers from different countries

  • @Shawn.Mathew

    @Shawn.Mathew

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mrt445 blame Tariq nasheed for that 😂

  • @mrt445

    @mrt445

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Shawn.Mathew blame him for what, I generally agree with him.

  • @Shawn.Mathew

    @Shawn.Mathew

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mrt445 even his buck breaking nfts? 😂

  • @gamblerschoicestreetappare2897
    @gamblerschoicestreetappare2897 Жыл бұрын

    Last I checked Jamaicans were black lol this dude can’t be serious

  • @BoricuaNyc

    @BoricuaNyc

    Жыл бұрын

    Sean Paul will disagree 🤣

  • @thetruth997_

    @thetruth997_

    Жыл бұрын

    Different ethnic group than black Americans that actually have roots in the Untied States. Jamaicans hasn't created anything and when they come to America they get Americanized. They are forced to copy us not thr other way around 🇺🇲

  • @robertomontalvo7099

    @robertomontalvo7099

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol actually they were known as taino Indians same as puerto ricans look it up

  • @robertomontalvo7099

    @robertomontalvo7099

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BoricuaNyc well actually he's half Jamaican and I belive he's father or mother is a famous painter from there

  • @Joshtherealdeal

    @Joshtherealdeal

    Жыл бұрын

    They have brown skin yes. But you have to stop obsessing Over skin color that’s the issue with you clowns.Culture wise it’s like comparing a Chinese to a Japanese. Or calling Puerto Rican & Mexicans the same they will be quick to tell you they are not the same but if a blacks say it we are looked at as if we are crazy but you guys do it all the time with your fellow Latino brothers. We are not the same as Jamaicans & Africans other than skin color. These groups have been identified as Jamaican , Nigerian, Haitian, etc. black Americans have never been identified .

  • @travisbrown6595
    @travisbrown6595 Жыл бұрын

    I’m glad to see the majority of the comments pushing back against these lies,,,,,,, Ya see him smirking? He can’teven say that with a straight face and a good heart. Even he had to laugh FOH!!

  • @raallah9091
    @raallah9091 Жыл бұрын

    Contribution and and creation is two different things

  • @jameleason590

    @jameleason590

    Жыл бұрын

    FACTS MAKE THAT MAKE SENSE LOUDER 💯👌

  • @Bigk3695

    @Bigk3695

    Жыл бұрын

    Also presence doesn't mean contribution

  • @americasmaker

    @americasmaker

    Жыл бұрын

    What did they contribute?

  • @jayjones251

    @jayjones251

    Жыл бұрын

    And participation

  • @EVERLASTING12000

    @EVERLASTING12000

    Жыл бұрын

    Participation and contribution are two different things as well.

  • @theglaok
    @theglaok Жыл бұрын

    Its not an argument anymore FBA created hip hop why are we still debating this.

  • @BlakeMediaInc
    @BlakeMediaInc Жыл бұрын

    If you listen to Herc himself he will tell you he was no a flashy dresser. not into "fashion". he got that from his observation of Black people. He never bought Island culture to us. no one was wearing Dred locks {including him} back then. Nor were we "Looking" Anything like Island culture dress code. He saw young blacks dancing with movements like stomping and arm movements. He watch us not the other way around. Further more listen to Jamaica artist from the 1960.s and you here them say they listen to OUR music. Jazz Rock n Roll and Motown. They sang OUR music in Jamaican dance halls in the 1960,s...Wake up Black America.

  • @fracturedsolace145
    @fracturedsolace145 Жыл бұрын

    They want to pick apart our culture and take claim to the good parts but want to leave the struggle behind.

  • @ralphpinkins5619
    @ralphpinkins5619 Жыл бұрын

    Tony Touch is lying because hes Puerto Rican and trying to claim they started hip hop LOL. Heres the real: Im from Harlem and grew up during that time. Hip hop started in the Bronxdale, projects in Soundview of the Bronx by the Black spades in the early 70's before Grandmaster Flash, before Fat Joe, before Afrika Bambata, before Rock Steady Crew, before Big PUN, Before DJ Charlie Chase before DJ Kool Herc....period. It started in Bronxdale and then spread out to Bronx River, Monroe, Soundview and Castle Hill. They used to throw the jams in Rosedale park off Rosedale avenue. It started there first!! They were playing old R&B, Funk and Rock from the late 60's and 70's. LOL They were playing BLACK music...like James Brown & all those STAX records artists from Memphis Tennesee. Jimmy Castor Bunch was a funk band. the group was black with a white drummer. All those break records were from R&B artists of the time. Not no Puerto Ricans, not no salsa music , not no Jamaicans, not no dancehall or reggae. The first MC was Coke La Rock a Black guy. Break dancing started WELL before rock steady crew dude. At the park jams people would dance like James Brown. DO YOUR RESEARCH PEOPLE.

  • @juanpumarojo4352

    @juanpumarojo4352

    Жыл бұрын

    How is He Lying....He said Hip Hop started by Island People...??? Brooklyn & Queens were throwing parties and they were Uprocking not Breaking. BROOKLYN been Rocking using the same elements....from ENY to Fort Greene...how you think Hip Hop spread so fast ??? Afro-Latinos push the notion. There were alot of gangs in the BX not just the Black Spades. GHETTO BROTHERS were the 1st to throw block parties They didnt rap or break dance. Ghetto Brothers came before the Black Spades. They had a Band...played Latin Rock and a recorded their music...what gang was doing this in the BX in those times...& who copy who...??? WHO CREATED THE BLUE PRINT...from Gang 2 Band...??? It wasnt the Black Spades. 💥🎶♠️🎶💜🎶💥

  • @BoricuaNyc

    @BoricuaNyc

    Жыл бұрын

    NewYorkRicans🇵🇷🗽we’re there since day one and Ruby Dee 🎤was before Coke La Roc. Ruby Dee🇵🇷🎤🗽-1969 🇵🇷🗽💎🇵🇷🗽💎🇵🇷🗽💎

  • @IsraeliteJudhite

    @IsraeliteJudhite

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BoricuaNyc since day one? Hip hop is derived from Funk Pop Jazz R&B Y’all were just standing around while we were creating hip hop Yea yall was there…but y’all didn’t create nothin

  • @GoblinGoodfella

    @GoblinGoodfella

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BoricuaNyc I see you be all in these Youtbe video comment section on FatJoe's claim and Bustah Rhymes claims about Latinos or Jamaicans created Hip-hop. No they didn't create Hip-hop and it has been debunked...

  • @raykane2063

    @raykane2063

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BoricuaNyc Completely False Coke La Rock was Kool Herc DJ. And they started before scratching was invented. Which was by Grand Wizard Theodore. Just be happy you got Ricky Ricardo from the 'I love Lucy Show"

  • @D7311
    @D7311 Жыл бұрын

    Where is the Latino Pigmeat Markham?

  • @kebrongee9614
    @kebrongee9614 Жыл бұрын

    People just straight up lie on national TV smh

  • @OakleafOrganic
    @OakleafOrganic Жыл бұрын

    "Look at the movies, look at the videos! We were there since day one!" Many people confuse rap movies with hip-hop history but they aren't the same thing.

  • @QueenP1974

    @QueenP1974

    Жыл бұрын

    You so salty nobody said yall wasn't there but yall was spectators

  • @OakleafOrganic

    @OakleafOrganic

    Жыл бұрын

    @@QueenP1974 you're actually right. 😆 i was hella aggro.

  • @basquait1

    @basquait1

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah....everybody isn't confused and some know that the label "HipHop" was used to replace the word "Rap" and to "include" others...ie Puerto Ricans....Whites as Creators, Co-Creators..which logically speaking, makes no sense!! FactsOverFeelings.

  • @OakleafOrganic

    @OakleafOrganic

    Жыл бұрын

    @@basquait1 i can dig that

  • @ConquerWealth.network

    @ConquerWealth.network

    Жыл бұрын

    Those movies came in late 70s early 80s. Hip Hop was already created in 71,72'

  • @FlyTyBlizzy
    @FlyTyBlizzy Жыл бұрын

    Cap af... disrespectful af they wasn't around till decades later

  • @randyc7851

    @randyc7851

    Жыл бұрын

    How??? We're u there??....Caz and Busta and people that were there say the same but then u got people with OPINIONS lol let's talk facts

  • @FlyTyBlizzy

    @FlyTyBlizzy

    Жыл бұрын

    My people was there In the 30s, 40's, 50's, 60's while your people are racist towards mines looking on the side lines calling it jungle bunny music! You dont have that sauce we have now you want to steal our culture. Culture vultures and disrespectful....I don't ever want to see or hear another Latino rapper in my life. You participated and now you claim ownership 😂😂😂😂 you kicked out the whip now

  • @randyc7851

    @randyc7851

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FlyTyBlizzy lmao u putting us as a whole u a 🤡 it's plenty of us Afro hispanics including myself who deal with the same struggles u do when I get booked or go for an interview u know how they view me as??? So again I'm not blind to the fact that we have bad apples like every other race but it's like the Africans from the motherland hate on African Americans a lot or how the African Americans throw hate on the Hatians it's not right but there's hate everywhere's so for u to sit there and talk that shit not even knowing wtf u speaking on just shows your ignorance...back to this rap shit NOBODY said we created shit all they said was we played a part in pioneering Hip Hop it's in stone no one needs your opinion just hear it from the people who actually created it lol Charlie Chase, Crazy legs, Ruby Dee, Markie Dee etc. we're still there and people Li Grandmaster Caz can attest to that so who are u to make that call???

  • @Joshtherealdeal

    @Joshtherealdeal

    Жыл бұрын

    @@randyc7851 Black Americans invented hip-hop , the foreigners came in and got their swag from black Americans, all they did was took what we invented back to their home countries. Cool herc wasn’t a rapper he made beats he wasn’t even the only DJ back them at the time their was thousands of black Americans DJ were herc got his swag from.. Busta is a liar and is trying to inject his foreigner people in our culture

  • @randyc7851

    @randyc7851

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Joshtherealdeal Bra Cool Herc and Grandmaster Flash the creators were from the Caribbean West Indies to be exact so let's start there

  • @ronjay1209
    @ronjay1209 Жыл бұрын

    Cap. FBA created all American Music.

  • @Lyrikalskate

    @Lyrikalskate

    Жыл бұрын

    What does FBA mean?

  • @ronjay1209

    @ronjay1209

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Lyrikalskate The only Americans who didn’t flee from their original country. Non Immigrants! The talented bunch!

  • @BoricuaNyc

    @BoricuaNyc

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ronjay1209 Your African ancestors were sold to AmeriKKKans by other Africans

  • @BoricuaNyc

    @BoricuaNyc

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Lyrikalskate FOUNDATIONAL BLACK AFRICANS In 1980 it meant FULL BLOWN AIDS

  • @ammonioussaccas
    @ammonioussaccas Жыл бұрын

    If hip hop started in the islands please show us the roots in the islands right now. If it came from there would be some remnant of hip hop before the 1970's. I'll wait.

  • @wa-bu3ke

    @wa-bu3ke

    Жыл бұрын

    You want a time machine?

  • @ammonioussaccas

    @ammonioussaccas

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wa-bu3ke The 50's, 60's and, 70's are a part of audio-video recorded history ding dong. No time machine is needed. Now show the proof.

  • @LOU1982

    @LOU1982

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wa-bu3ke well FBA has a time machine, where is yours?

  • @raykane2063
    @raykane2063 Жыл бұрын

    Jamaicans just brought the WEED🥬

  • @abrahambowen8332

    @abrahambowen8332

    Жыл бұрын

    You brought Heroin and crack.

  • @BattleTruth

    @BattleTruth

    Жыл бұрын

    And dusty dreads

  • @StylistecS
    @StylistecS Жыл бұрын

    “So hip hop was started by Island people” See and that’s where the problem comes. He just simply erased the people before them and folks believe it.

  • @AJ-pc5ln
    @AJ-pc5ln Жыл бұрын

    This is straight lies Hip-hop is derived from Black American Culture there are videos and recordings that say otherwise from the 1920s and so fourth.

  • @travisbrown6595
    @travisbrown6595 Жыл бұрын

    Take the Latino “creation” of hip hop without ANY of the black American influences and what do you think we’d have today?!?! NOTHING!!! An unknown unheard of piece of non music, TFOH!!

  • @EVERLASTING12000

    @EVERLASTING12000

    Жыл бұрын

    Take away the FUNK... Take away the JAZZ... Take away the SOUL/R&B... Take away the DISCO... Take away the BREAK BEATS... Take away the BREAK DANCING... Take away the RAPPING/RHYMING... Take away the DJ-ING and MC-ING... Take away the GRAFITTI... What are you left with? NONE OF THOSE COMPONANTS INDIVIDUALLY ORIGINATED IN NEW YORK. ALL OF IT WERE CREATED BY FBAs from outside of New York. Credit is given to FBAs (and FBAs only) in New York that brought it all together in one perfect storm, and THEY gave it a name: HIP-HOP. The name 'hip-hop' itself is FBA vernacular. It is the height of absurdity to suggest that Jamaicans, and Latinos/Puerto Ricans helped create a genre of music that EXCLUSIVELY used Foundational Black American Funk, Jazz, and R&B music.

  • @travisbrown6595

    @travisbrown6595

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EVERLASTING12000 Whoa Whoa Whoa brother, we’re on the same side…. Latinos Africans and Caribbeans didn’t create a damn thing when it comes to hip hop Rap. I’m giving them zero credit in the creation of it…….. they are worse than vultures they are trying to steal lit wholesale and not only say they “helped create it” they’re saying they created it and WE helped out a little bit

  • @MrSpresley33
    @MrSpresley33 Жыл бұрын

    Latinos dont speak English nor do they have rhythm, how the hell y’all created Hip Hop???

  • @elim2826

    @elim2826

    Жыл бұрын

    Kinda ignorant, he's referring to latinos , mostly Caribbean at the time of puerto rican descent. Also mostly referring to NYC ,

  • @IsraeliteJudhite

    @IsraeliteJudhite

    Жыл бұрын

    @@elim2826 kinda truthful

  • @clockwork9825

    @clockwork9825

    Жыл бұрын

    @@elim2826 they’re not black Americans bruh. Those other carribean folks ain’t got no style either until they get around us in the USA

  • @Dmack5ive
    @Dmack5ive6 ай бұрын

    Black Americans created every element of hip hop and almost every genre in music anything outside of black Americans is a guest. Black Americans was doing this in the 18 and 1900’s here in our homeland🇺🇸 ain’t no 50/50 wit nobody Lie-tinos, Caribbeans, Jamaicans. It don’t matter the Bity it’s all black Americans culture and creation pay homage to black Americans‼️

  • @reallydoe2937
    @reallydoe2937 Жыл бұрын

    Cool Herc said himself I seen those kids from The Bronxdale. He wasn't rocking no hip hop, he was on reggae music. Till he found out what people really like. Puerto Ricians. Seen something they like and two years later started trying to learn the art form. As we know. Just like how young people do older people that catch on to a Trend. Young people stops doing it. Because they feels it's corney now. That's what happened when Puerto Ricians and white people started doing our art form we went into something new. We had little interest in break dancing and shit. That's what we do. Dick Gregory said. They allow Don to create soul train to learn the world how to dance and move because we was coming up with so many new dances every week. That other races couldn't keep up with. Like what yall other races do today. Y'all be saying I'm trying to learn the dance I liked and learned 3 weeks ago and now yall have a new one. It took white people ten years later to stop doing the bump. They wore that dam dance out on what we created.

  • @basquait1

    @basquait1

    Жыл бұрын

    FactsOverFeelings!!@

  • @killianmurdoc3152

    @killianmurdoc3152

    Жыл бұрын

    Hahaha go do your history. The pioneers have said Latinos were there!

  • @jameleason590

    @jameleason590

    Жыл бұрын

    @@killianmurdoc3152 just because they were there doesn't mean they started anything smh.

  • @reallydoe2937

    @reallydoe2937

    Жыл бұрын

    @@killianmurdoc3152 well thank you for winning our case. It's a differents between creating something and just watching and learning something by being there looking. Lmao 🤣😂

  • @Soufside_Slim

    @Soufside_Slim

    Жыл бұрын

    @@killianmurdoc3152 Mexicans were in Compton when Gangsta Rap was made. Mexicans learned Pop Lockin, but we know where it came from. "Where there" ain't creating. Only Puerto Ricans holding on to this lie because Latinos in America ain't created NOTHING. All Latino culture come from outside of America.

  • @djmagnumti6268
    @djmagnumti6268 Жыл бұрын

    Show us some receipts. Show me footage, Record, anything with Latinos rapping and helping create hip hop. For Latinos to supposedly help create Hip Hop they sure didn't make any hip hop songs back then... The 1st 2 Latino rappers was down with black crews. Their names were Whipper whip and Ruby Dee, But that didn't happen til 1977/1978, Hip Hop was already going.

  • @martinahardy5255
    @martinahardy5255 Жыл бұрын

    LIES! Hip hop really started in the 1940s, first thing. Second thing for a race to claimed that they created hip hop, then they also created Jazz, Funk, R&B soul, Rock Roll, The Blues and Country. Because each genre creates the other. If the Latinos created Hip Hop. Where is the Latinos and Jamaica version of Michael Jackson, Tupac, Nas, Jay Z, James Brown, Wu Thang, DMX, Lil Kim, EMPD, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Kool Moe Dee, Prince, Earth, Wind and Fire, Isley Brothers, R Kelly, AND ETC, so you're telling me that these other races created hip hop, but black Americans HAVE THE MOST ARTISTS IN THE BUSINESS AND REFINED THE WHOLE GENRES. You can't write this. I'm just asking for a friend.

  • @robertomontalvo7099

    @robertomontalvo7099

    Жыл бұрын

    So in 1940 it was called hip hop nooo actually ya just making something bigger than it is as usual I'm not saying 50 50 but we played a part enough facts are facts damn

  • @martinahardy5255

    @martinahardy5255

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertomontalvo7099 Then where are these Puerto Rican rappers. Because Tupac, Nas, Jay Z, Lil Kim, EPMD, Kool Moe Dee, Big Daddy Kane, Snoopy Dogg, Michael Jackson, James Brown, Isley Brothers, Earth Wind, Fire, Rakim, AZ, Ice Cube, Easy E DMX, Tha Dogg Pound, Dre, Keith Sweat, AND ETC. These are OUR artists, I could go all day with black artists. I'm so tired of people just injecting themselves into our culture.

  • @robertomontalvo7099

    @robertomontalvo7099

    Жыл бұрын

    @@martinahardy5255 Dave east - Jim jones- swizz beats- Joelle ortiz - fabulous- az- Lloyd banks- Chino xl - big pun- fat joe- b real - pittbull- nore- immortal techniques- the beatnuts- cardi b - Mariah Carey- young ma - rico nasty- lmao ayo ya just don't know ya see a color and just assume that's what's great about be latino we are every where and ya just don't know it facts

  • @martinahardy5255

    @martinahardy5255

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertomontalvo7099 Mariah Carey is black and white

  • @martinahardy5255

    @martinahardy5255

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertomontalvo7099 Don't know Dave East, pitbull, immortal techniques, the beanuts, or rico nasty. Where are the large icon of Puerto Rican rap, besides Big Pun and Fat Joe and in my opinion they aren't icons. Just famous. Everyone wants to LEECH off black culture. Partaking in black culture is totally different then creating black culture.

  • @james2gemini2taylor
    @james2gemini2taylor Жыл бұрын

    Lies lies lies, we can show you videos dating back to the 40s and 50s of blacks rapping ...stop lieing and produce your evidence.

  • @Papermanfla
    @Papermanfla7 ай бұрын

    Puerto Ricans did nothing to start hiphop. Y'all copied from black foundational Americans. He is talking about people that had nothing to do with starting hiphop.

  • @AA-sh8pk
    @AA-sh8pk Жыл бұрын

    But hiphop didnt start with herc. The culture was already in the states when he got off the boat , he says that himself. Latino were there early but they did not CREATE IT

  • @BLACKNBIG4
    @BLACKNBIG4 Жыл бұрын

    This lying as Culture Vulture.

  • @terenceealy919
    @terenceealy919 Жыл бұрын

    Wow. Stop letting these people in our mix. Blacks started everything.

  • @NevaSellmySoul

    @NevaSellmySoul

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean black ppl gotta stop worshipping other races who doesnt respect them while they're killin each other overall black ppl gotta hold this L for life

  • @crliny1
    @crliny1 Жыл бұрын

    So mfking what? None of the people he named brought any element of Hip Hop from their countries! All elements of Hip Hop are Foundational Black American creations!

  • @drewu1391
    @drewu1391 Жыл бұрын

    I'm going to say this all the people that came over here did what talk like us dressed liked us they played James brown breaks a black man song if you went into how many Latinos was around doing hip hop when they first start it wasn't no where alot and they helped it grow but they didn't start it a lot of them listen to there music and everybody else assimilated with the black African-American talk like now dress like us they still do it to this day they use our words do you hear Jamaican or Latino music and hip Hop the origin no in Jamaica they played a lot of blues American black blues they didn't start making music far as albums until the 1950s when you watch everybody that was into hip hop back then they dressed as if they were black back in the day they used to call it jungle bunny music come on I would never thought that this would be even a topic because we all know where it came from do you really think that if we were in Jamaica that we would have made hip Hop no do you think if we were in Puerto Rico that we would have made hip Hop no hip hop got made by black Americans and once again people are trying to steal something that we created then you need to tell Busta rhymes fat Joe and the rest of them to stop talking like us stop using our lingo those our slang back then you have Puerto Ricans with afros come on now man Jamaicans with afros come on man who were they identifying with who was they copying he would not even said this in the 90s at all he said that now because you feeling yourself and people believe anything but even white people know that's American black music lord Jamal did a show on this very thing and showed and proved that we black people started it and our Latino brothers and sisters join us to spread it

  • @jermainehnbhwalls822
    @jermainehnbhwalls822 Жыл бұрын

    Hiphop is a African American art form yes Puerto Ricans are ther If it was Jamaican would been created in Jamaica like dance hall but it didn't cause it's American black art farm

  • @OakleafOrganic
    @OakleafOrganic Жыл бұрын

    No worries. Just wait. When Rap Music is condemned for its violence, misogyny, and its dysfunction, it'll suddenly belong to us again, 100%!!!!!! 😂🤣😂🤣

  • @baccgod942

    @baccgod942

    Жыл бұрын

    We're living in an Egyptians ain't blk moment right in front of our face

  • @OakleafOrganic

    @OakleafOrganic

    Жыл бұрын

    @@baccgod942 meh. Whose fault is it, getting into such discussions with white folks, their adjacents, and their familiars? Cant expect robots to change their own programming.

  • @mack2629
    @mack2629 Жыл бұрын

    If you want to know the TRUE origins of hip hop hop go to Mike Wayne tv. He had some of the ORIGINAL MEMBERS who were there. Creators and eyewitnesses of the culture doing interviews with them. STOP THE LIES ‼️

  • @parisbrown3399
    @parisbrown3399 Жыл бұрын

    No sir rap was started by Muhammad Ali, dolomite hip grandfather is the South church r and b also

  • @raallah9091
    @raallah9091 Жыл бұрын

    It's like Kevin Durant going to join the Warriors they were already champions when he came there

  • @crliny1
    @crliny1 Жыл бұрын

    Latinos "Being there" doesn't equal CREATIVITY!

  • @soulblack621
    @soulblack62110 ай бұрын

    Stop the cap... Foundational Blacks are the originators of Hip-hop.

  • @promisedcovenant9917
    @promisedcovenant9917 Жыл бұрын

    OK, so where is the hip hop on the islands?? No, you needed to be amongst the creators in order to colonize and imitate their styles.

  • @Daniel-Aguilar865
    @Daniel-Aguilar865 Жыл бұрын

    Hip hop/rap is BLACK American music, Puerto Ricans were there and Dj kool herc was Jamaican, but it was perfected and created by AA it’s a Afro American creation that’s it.

  • @kasheem1747
    @kasheem1747 Жыл бұрын

    Kool Herc had to get permission first from the other crews to come outside and play his music or the gangsters would stop it

  • @marlonhew75

    @marlonhew75

    Жыл бұрын

    cap

  • @kasheem1747

    @kasheem1747

    Жыл бұрын

    @@marlonhew75fitted ones !

  • @marlonhew75

    @marlonhew75

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kasheem1747 that was corny you still wear fitted caps LOL 😀😀😀

  • @VLorenzoStone
    @VLorenzoStone Жыл бұрын

    He went full culture vulture. You never go culture vulture.

  • @justincase4792
    @justincase4792 Жыл бұрын

    DJ Kool herc didn't invent anything he just played records..lol

  • @abrahambowen8332

    @abrahambowen8332

    Жыл бұрын

    It's what he did what the records and his style in the turntables.

  • @americasmaker

    @americasmaker

    Жыл бұрын

    He stole the merry go round technique from the Disco DJs.

  • @Blackrooted96
    @Blackrooted96 Жыл бұрын

    That’s a lie gtfoh

  • @tuubu9115
    @tuubu9115 Жыл бұрын

    Some people say hip hop started in south by BB king

  • @jerrygraves6531
    @jerrygraves6531 Жыл бұрын

    What exactly did Puerto Ricans create in hip hop?

  • @Bigk3695
    @Bigk3695 Жыл бұрын

    Just because they're from the islands doesn't mean it was influenced my the Caribbean. Lol soul funk music is what they had to switch to. Break dancing and DJing was going on way before the 70s lol. And just because they were there doesn't mean they created it. Latinos we're calling it jungle bunny music.

  • @billyjacc

    @billyjacc

    Жыл бұрын

    What Latinos? Not Ricans. .not in NYC, not in Philly, nor Jersey, etc.

  • @americasmaker

    @americasmaker

    Жыл бұрын

    @@billyjacc According to your people yes you were calling it that.

  • @mr.bond2023
    @mr.bond2023 Жыл бұрын

    kool Herc did not create hip hop nor is he the first dj of hip hop, Disco King Mario is the first Hip Hop DJ. We have black american who were break dancing back in the 40's and 50's. latinos did not come into the picture until way later after hip hop was already established. We also have black americans who were literally rapping over beats in the 40's. a black american was the first grafitti artist. clearly nobody dressed like us. Literally every aspect of hip hop was created solely by Foundational Black Americans and we will not sit here and let these liars come slither in and try to insert themselves as the creators of the black american hip hop culture. there is nothing hip hop about jamaica or puerto rico, knock it off! yall didnt create a dam thing, yall just came in and did what we were already doing. stop it!

  • @blackice1802
    @blackice180211 ай бұрын

    That's a lying immigrant

  • @communityvibeswithbrowneye1431
    @communityvibeswithbrowneye1431 Жыл бұрын

    And what about the Fat Back Band that produced the first Hip Hop song entitled "King Tim" in 1979? None of them were Latino. Nobody is trying to take away the fact that Latinos got involved because they liked the vibes, but to take credit for its origin is disrespectful. Imagine if Black people start going way back and take credit for Latin drums music and percussions, which can be connected. People would be outraged. This claim is a no go. Sorry.

  • @juniormiles6773
    @juniormiles6773 Жыл бұрын

    Special ed, Heavy D, and Doug E Fresh, KRS-one, a few Jamaicans handle they business. But it was most of Black American. Shame on these Puerto Ricans talking about 50/50

  • @soldierup5482
    @soldierup5482 Жыл бұрын

    You really got some nerve spewing this blasphemy. It's all good thought because moving forward FBA culture will be protected from you culture vultures.

  • @dutchy213
    @dutchy213 Жыл бұрын

    The five elements. People clueless

  • @gforvendtta
    @gforvendtta Жыл бұрын

    Hip hop started in the 40s in the south. These ny black cosplay Latinos have always had contempt for black Americans. This is laughable.

  • @jeremyboykin7348
    @jeremyboykin7348 Жыл бұрын

    This is not true. Foundational Black Americans invented hip hop. We had versions of dudes rapping in the 1920's all black. Hip hop comes from Funk, Jazz, And the old School R and B. Not Jamaica or Puerto Rico. Even Bob Marley the king of reggae said he was influenced by black Americans. So stop lying.

  • @jerrygraves6531
    @jerrygraves6531 Жыл бұрын

    Cool herc and grandmaster flash did nothing besides play Black American music. The soul of hip Hop is rapping not Merry-Go-Round break beats. They didn't create hip hop

  • @daveblaze2713
    @daveblaze27137 ай бұрын

    Spanish was racist from day 1

  • @rareonyxx2095
    @rareonyxx2095 Жыл бұрын

    Give this sick looking dude a meal!!! He either high or hungry

  • @khalidmohammed3973
    @khalidmohammed3973 Жыл бұрын

    During American slavery whites used to take credit for inventions of FBA who were enslaved knowing blacks at the time couldn’t get patented. The same thing is happening now with the origins of Hip Hop music & culture.

  • @d.colecheef835
    @d.colecheef835 Жыл бұрын

    Yall gat this goofy on here talking that shit, rocksteady crew wasn’t no day one, crazy legs ain’t been doing this from no day 1, They ain’t been been doing this shit no longer than me TMZ you are a be ashamed of yourself trying to take away from FBI’s

  • @RaaddrrVan
    @RaaddrrVan Жыл бұрын

    not tru tony You Guys Called us Jungle bunnies in the year 1970 so stop Tony got Respect 4 you but dont LIE iight peace

  • @robertomontalvo7099

    @robertomontalvo7099

    Жыл бұрын

    And ya never did or said shit brother stop fronting we all done or said some racist shit in over life time but we been repping this shit from years ago I don't see why this is such a big deal good lord

  • @RaaddrrVan

    @RaaddrrVan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertomontalvo7099 in the 1970s the Rican gangs was not Listenin to Black Music ! The ghetto brothers from the bronx was 0n Salsa Records Thats rican shit not black That was an all rican skull gang group the leader was Chalie Melindez! who tried to unite the gangs in the X! YOU TO TELL FAT JOE IN TONY TO GET IT RIGHT Im 0ut peace

  • @bobbyschannel349

    @bobbyschannel349

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertomontalvo7099 hip hop is not a Spanish music, it's not a Latino identity, those records that they were spinning were not salsa, merengue. Those DJs were banging R&B disco and funk. Those block parties were black American music. Not Puerto Rican music. Puerto Ricans were coming to Black parties, You were rapping like blacks, you were dancing like blacks, so basically you were coming to the black parties emulating black people from the very beginning, It doesn't mean that you created it, it means that you were basically a part of our culture, participating in our culture. You wasn't creating our culture, you were participating in our culture.

  • @NevaSellmySoul

    @NevaSellmySoul

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertomontalvo7099 u have no obligations speakin on hip hop stick to baseball and leave hip hop for my black folks

  • @robertomontalvo7099

    @robertomontalvo7099

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bobbyschannel349 I swear ya try to hard I said what I said I feel no need to try to jack something I was not part of so who cares shit ain't that serious

  • @danzylanddasoil1594
    @danzylanddasoil1594 Жыл бұрын

    Man, where are the Puerto Ricans on the island doing the equivalent?

  • @Jeff-xv6gk

    @Jeff-xv6gk

    Жыл бұрын

    No where because Puerto Ricans on the island don’t do hip hop that’s why

  • @BoricuaNyc

    @BoricuaNyc

    Жыл бұрын

    Bad Bunny 🇵🇷🌍

  • @johnnyrobinson8168
    @johnnyrobinson8168 Жыл бұрын

    B.S! Black American born men invented every form of popular music! All the most popular forms of music were invented by American born blackmen! And all of those forms of music got their start in black churches!

  • @chozenegra2674
    @chozenegra2674 Жыл бұрын

    They can get this over on young kids but we know this is bullshit. Wasn't nothing jumping in Jamaica at that time but people imitating Motown and reggae. Why was there no successful latino albums before mellow man ace and kid frost? They didn't have no platinum selling artists til big pun. We invented it, we marketed it and made it what it is today. Everybody else just copied our swagg. Why don't they claim what they did create, the salsa music in New York.

  • @ralphpinkins5619
    @ralphpinkins5619 Жыл бұрын

    Why do latinos jump to the rock steady crew, disco wiz , and charlie chase as the origins of hip hop? Charlie chase came out in 75 with the cold crush brothers. A simple google search shows hip hop came out in 73'. Rock steady came out in 77' . All these acts post date August 11, 1973 the date they say hip hop was created. I dont believe that hip hop was created in 73 but let just assume thats fact, latinos creating hip hop doesnt pass the sniff test. Make it make sense. Even if , lets say hypothetically, Kool Herc was credited with being a founder of hip hop (again, i dont believe he is) and he is of jamaican descent. It doesnt matter because the music he was doing , hip hop, has no jamaican influence. He was just a young jamaican kid performing hip hop. That doesnt mean that hip hop is now Jamaican music. Same thing with Puerto Ricans, just because a puerto rican is performing hip hop doesnt mean he created it. Where is the salsa influence in the music? Why are they not speaking spanish on records? Where are the early spanish rap records? There are none. But you created it 50/50? Where is the jamaican dancehall influence in early hip hop?

  • @BoricuaNyc

    @BoricuaNyc

    Жыл бұрын

    Ruby Dee was the first Boricua🇵🇷MC🎤🗽💎 Whipper Whip was the second-1969

  • @genpaul2363
    @genpaul2363 Жыл бұрын

    Hip Hop wasn’t created on the Islands nor Islanders and Kool Herc did NOT create Hip Hop..he only showcased Black American culture

  • @Jeff-xv6gk
    @Jeff-xv6gk Жыл бұрын

    The delusion for me

  • @raallah9091
    @raallah9091 Жыл бұрын

    Rapper's Delight was the first rap record made they weren't the first rappers they didn't create it. All those people he mentioned we're not the first to do it they came to the party saw what was going on

  • @3941602
    @3941602 Жыл бұрын

    I like Tony Touch as a musician henhas had some bangers but he is wrong here. I also Like Tony Sunshine. The contribution has been there but we are allowed to say that the original creators was Black Americans its documented.

  • @mrt445
    @mrt445 Жыл бұрын

    Jamaicans are still black and this guy defending Fat Joe means nothing because he's also Puerto Rican. Of course he'll defend Fat Joe.

  • @RaymondBrown-xw4cj
    @RaymondBrown-xw4cj6 ай бұрын

    WHAT EVERY LATINO & JAMAICAN SHOULD KNOW ABOUT CHRONOLOGICAL BLACK AMERICAN CULTURAL HISTORY: Hip hop came directly out of The Black Power/Black Is Beautiful/ Black Arts Movement of the 1960's &1970's. This was the most culturally and politically active era in African American history. The teen contingent of the movement played out as presented on Soul Train produced by Don Cornelius beginning 1970 when the show was nationally broadcast from Chicago from 1970 to the end of 1971. He moved the show to LA, but he took several of his teen dancers with him to ensure the dance quality of the show would remain the same after the move. The TV show became our most powerful Black teen cultural influence for 36 years. Soul Train hit American popular culture like a cultural tsunami. It instantly eclipsed Dick Clark's American Bandstand in international popularity. Chicago is the capitol of African American Blues and Gospel Music. Chicago due to The Great Migration is Mississippi once removed. Chicago developed the best social dancers in Black America. Michael Jackson comes from that dance enclave. Because break dancing had been a part of the Chicago dance lexicon since the 1950's, most likely influenced by the Black dance crews seen on TV variety shows in the 1950's, the Chicago teens on Soul Train showcased break dancing as part of their dance repertoire. For the first time in or cultural history we had a national stage to spotlight Black music stars, show-off old and new Black dances, and to premiere new Black talent. Teens across this nation copied the break dancing seen on Soul Train, including The Black Spades. They sang James Brown's (who was a frequent guest on ST) "Soul Power." They personalized it by singing "Spade Power! They put their influence on break dancing to make it uniquely their own. James Brown's "Say It Loud, I'm Black and I'm Proud" was the Black teen national anthem. Those who recognize James Brown as the Godfather of hip hop, rarely mention the Black Power aspect of what he was promoting, along with other Black Protest stars like Curtis Mayfield (Movin' On Up), Nina Simone (To Be Young Gifted and Black), and Marvin Gaye (What's Goin' On album sold 2M albums in 30 days) among many others, that sparked the impetus for Black teen heightened involvement. The Black Arts Movement elevated rhyming Black Protest poets like H Rap Brown, Amir Baraka, Sonia Sanchez, Don L. Lee aka Haki Madhubuti, The Last Poets, and Mari Evans among others, to the forefront as the rapping voices of Black Power that politicized Black American teens. This Black teen cultural revolution was televised. Neither Puerto Ricans nor Jamaicans were singing, dancing, rapping about, nor identifying with our Black Is Beautiful/Black Power/Black Arts Movement. They still don't. Their great jealousy grew out of the international excitement generated by Black American teens dancing on national TV that did not include them. Because the broadcast came out of Chicago, not NYC, it singularly showcased Black American teens only. Soul Train is the genesis of the NYC PR and Jamaican great cultural jealousy. The emergence of The Black Spades Black Power gang culture gave PRs in the Bronx a local Black cultural expression they could cosplay in their jealous quest to leech the Black American teen international pop culture spotlight. Their desire for the same fame that Black teens had, is the reason NYC PRs in mass set aside their long-standing antipathy towards NYC African Americans in order to surreptitiously enter their ranks to gain acceptance so they could cosplay Black American dance, music and style. Five plus decades later Latinos have delusionally convinced themselves that they actually created what they effetely copied. Anyone who speaks about the development of hip hop and doesn't mention the worldwide influence the Black Is Beautiful/Black Power/Black Arts Movement or the impact of Soul Train, they don't know what they are talking about. The 10 years following the assassination of MLK, Black America was politically and culturally ablaze. Hip hop grew directly out of the tenor of those times. No immigrant group was powerful enough to influence Black American teen music, dance, nor style during that Black Power period, no matter where they were located. All other teens, white American teens and white college students, American immigrant teens in and outside of NYC, and teens around the world copied the powerful music, dance, and political colloquialisms (like "Right-On" and "Power To The People!") presented by African Americans from various regions across this nation. Contemporary self-aggrandizing cultural history revisionists like Colon and certain descendants of island immigrants have chosen the most active, the most vocal, and the most recorded period in Black American history to try and hijack. All their ever-changing revisionist folklore narratives are continually being debunked by authentic Black Americans, because they have no visual or journalistic documented evidence to support their delusional wishful claims, nor do they present acceptable reasoning that ratifies Puerto Rican/Jamaican bizarre demands to force their way into African American culture that resists their irrational intrusions.

  • @Mikejones-zg6xg
    @Mikejones-zg6xg Жыл бұрын

    Corn bread from Philly moved to New York

  • @OakleafOrganic
    @OakleafOrganic Жыл бұрын

    Tony Touch. You gotta stop it. With all due respect, how many non-black MCs were there back then? Same number as there are today, very few. BTW, How long did the breakdancing thing actually last? Who the fk has breakdanced in the last 30 fkn years? How many PR/Island/non-black hip-hop DJs besides (maybe) you and possibly Kid Capri are relevant today? Whose music is Khalid playing/mixing? Are we gonna claim that semi-Arabs helped create hip-hop as well???? I guess it's true if you count Israelis.... Lmfao @ "I think it was BLM..." FOH'd "Those were island people, not black people." Mzl tov, tony. Mzl tov.

  • @OriginalKing100

    @OriginalKing100

    Жыл бұрын

    Kid Capri black Father Italian Mother

  • @OakleafOrganic

    @OakleafOrganic

    Жыл бұрын

    @@OriginalKing100 good point

  • @savagebysurvival7190
    @savagebysurvival7190 Жыл бұрын

    Fyi nobody was jamming Tony touch round my way NOBODY

  • @cus85
    @cus85 Жыл бұрын

    I don’t care where they came from they didn’t know shit about hip hop until they came over here and started doing what they saw us black americans was already doing. There wasn’t no hip hop back in there homeland. They came over and copied the way we dressed, talked, walked our whole style. They wasn’t doing none of these things back in there homeland not until they got around black Americans. Latinos don’t have or had any influence on black culture. We are the culture. There would be no hip hop if black Americans didn’t create it.

  • @basquait1

    @basquait1

    Жыл бұрын

    Facts and the only Cats who do not understand this are from New York!!

  • @BoricuaNyc

    @BoricuaNyc

    Жыл бұрын

    @@basquait1 Meanwhile you using “Basquait” a name of one of the best graffiti hip hop artist from NYC🗽🇵🇷🇭🇹 🤣🤣🤣 🗽

  • @moneytalk437
    @moneytalk437 Жыл бұрын

    Y’all dominated the dance sence cause y’all got the money from the Jew to make the movies and y’all put y’all self first in the movies and still running it today stop playing white Latinoare of rhythm and none till this is spinning on there head 30 mph but one man from that area and his black

  • @dongee3879
    @dongee3879 Жыл бұрын

    Everybody know you don't listen to hip Hop the majority of Puerto Ricans listen to Puerto Rican music the majority of Jamaicans listen to Jamaican music majority of the Mexicans listen to Mexican music stop with the b*******..

  • @mackwitdavortexx

    @mackwitdavortexx

    Жыл бұрын

    But Peedi Crakk made One fot Peedi

  • @freeplax17
    @freeplax17 Жыл бұрын

    So the real question is who runs hip hop, that would be non of caribean, puerto rican or foundational black people fighting about who started hip hop...

  • @kyser3ify
    @kyser3ify Жыл бұрын

    He's out of his mind with this and being Hella disrespectful, even the PR break dancers was the second generation and they said it themselves, they watched the black guys . But Tony Touch is not popping in hiphop circles

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