What air filter are you running and why is everyone else stupid for not doing the same? FIGHT

@be891

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/Yp2Mm7KCh5fUoaw.html

@texasblaze1016

Жыл бұрын

OEM

@Brucev7

8 ай бұрын

Was told 35 yrs ago, by a man who worked for a Big 3 Dealer, Wix, Hastings, Purolator best.

@stefanpuffer

6 ай бұрын

I use Wix.

@Beer_Dad1975

6 ай бұрын

I run a K&N filter, but I don't believe it offers any improvement over an OEM filter - I do it because throwing away an OEM filter every 30,000km seems less environmentally friendly than using the same filter for the life of the vehicle.

Been using K&N for well over 10 years. Love them!

Used K&N for every vehicle I've owned. Maintain it, and OIL it properly. Never had an issue.

@dave-eu4vc

Жыл бұрын

Simply don't fucking oil it yourself. Just throw it out and buy a new one. Besides it's fine for 100k. After that sell your dam car 😂 Problem solved. 😂

@matsudakodo

9 ай бұрын

You'll see more silicon (dirt) on an oil analysis

@RJL1983

9 ай бұрын

@@matsudakodo not on my recent Blackstone reports, both vehicles showed a good report, these vehicles had the k&n in well over 50,000 miles so far.

@matsudakodo

9 ай бұрын

@@RJL1983 what were your levels of silicon?

@RJL1983

9 ай бұрын

@@matsudakodo report shows universal average is 11 and mine shows 10

I use a aFe dry air filter with stock oem airbox. It doesnt need to be oiled and just needed to be cleaned with a air filter cleaner and some water. I keep my oem air filter while the filter dries

Hit the nail in the head, I live on a dirt road, and I’m much more concerned about filtration and longevity than performance, thanks for the info and I agree with your decision.

Have you looked into the TRD filter? How do they stand up?

I have been using K&N filters for more than 25 years, having sold 1 car with 212,000 miles on it (Lexus) and did not use any oil between 6,000 mile oil changes without a single problem with engine wear, MAF sensors, and, cleaning the K&N air filter about every 30,000 miles. I agree that if one drives in a very dusty environment, this might cause increased engine wear, but in city driving which is mostly what I do, there has never been a problems, and the cost of paper replacement filters on my cars, were many multiples of the cost of one K&N filter and it's cleaning kit, which has lasted now about 14 years (the kit). These are in my opinion, valid points to consider when using these kinds of filters. The horsepower increases very from none to well documented increases depending on the motor they are placed on.

I switched back to Denso air filters for my 1988 Toyota Truck-it works better in keeping the dirt out! Being in California with strict laws have to go with what works best.

i picked up a 2022 TUNDRA k&N air filter and am getting lower MPG crazy..it just sounds slightly better when i punch on the accelerator..changing back to OEM

I was thinking of an AFE prodry filter. What are your thoughts on this vs stock or K&N? Would dry be better?

@mikea5205

Ай бұрын

That's what I wanna know. I just put an AEM dry drop in filter into my 24' Civic that I just bought with 1 mile on the odometer. We'll see if the engine explodes at 10k miles.

I'm running a KN air filter but my engine is tuned and my exhaust has been modified. I paid like $72 CAD for the KN filter but I keep a OEM filter and a can of MAF sensor cleaner in the car in the event of MAF sensor being soiled by the KN filter. Also a dirty air filter provide better filtration than a clean one but a clean filter is less restrictive than a dirty one. Lasty if your MAF gets dirty and the engine runs rough etc just clean it, there's absolutely no need to replace it in fact the MAF sensor will last entire lifespan of the engine.

Been running a k&n filter for a month now in my 2004 v6 4runner and oh boy what a difference it makes for torque acceleration.

@waszkreslem9306

Жыл бұрын

Throttle response*

@brucebruce479

6 ай бұрын

Placebo.

@mjay6245

4 ай бұрын

​@brucebruce479 it's not. On a 130hp vehicle you can expect 3-5HP.

@msmmagnum

3 ай бұрын

@@brucebruce479Bruce the goose

Do the K&N filters cause any kind of oil dilution? Can anyone answer me please.

Can we run a test where the air flow is not constant? Project Farm and the Nico Club are constant air flow tests (unless I am missing something and excluding the Restriction to Flow test). The K & N advocates seem to claim the fibers are moving as air is not at a constant speed in an engine intake. Particles hit the moving fibers in several layers and are caught by the oil. This seems to make sense as one is accelerating etc. I recall the MAP sensor sending in all different types of values. Interesting that K & N may be able to handle more dirt than paper where gaps are immediately plugged vs fibers that can move to allow air to pass through (again with varying flow). The scale decision on the graphs in the Nico Club are also odd. It's a 3% difference at constant speed between the top and lowest performer in filter efficiency. This would be barely discernible if the graph was true to scale.

@ericjarvis3051

6 ай бұрын

Sound like some K&N propaganda nonsense. If it filters it filters. They do not. I switched after watching that test. No way that "pulsing" air is going to drop the ammount of particles it let's thru by ten fold which would barely get it to same level As the cheapest filter

I have a 2013 Camry. I use a FRAM air filter, just because its sold at Cdn Tire and its the easiest thing to buy. I live in a city and don't drive on dusty and dirty roads, so the filter only get replaced every 2 years. I considered buying a K&N but didn't see any benefit over what is now 10 years. I have paid roughly $75.00 for FRAM air filters or I could have paid roughly $75.00 for a K&N in 2013 + the extra cost of the cleaning solution. I agree the WIX is a better filter, then the FRAM. In the long run, living in Ottawa, I have never lost an engine or a car from a cheep air filter, but RUST is a different story! (I wish we could filter the salt)

What are your thoughts on the AEM dry filter?

I think this strictly depends on driving habits. If you’re never around major dust, etc. (Farm or dirt roads), K & N works perfectly fine. I have a ‘23 Equinox that was getting 29.2 mpg with oem paper filter. After 3 weeks of K & N in normal clean driving conditions I’m at 31.6 mpg . Keep it clean and oil lightly and the proof is in the pudding.

@gabrielramos5790

11 ай бұрын

229,000 miles on my TRD Tacoma that has been on a lot of dirt roads, off road trails, and flat out mud pits lol K&N has been in it since it's first oil change ... So far so good 🤞🤞👌👌 But this post is interesting to be and has me considering which to buy for our Forester right now

@keithm532

9 ай бұрын

I don't suppose anyone knows why and how K&N came to be??? Racing motorcycles in the dirt?? Thats right, specifically designed for dirt...

@holmes132

8 ай бұрын

@@keithm532yes for dirt, mud, wet….they resist collapse similar to foam filters.

@boarhog1979

8 ай бұрын

How could you possibly determine fuel mileage? You would have to have the exact same conditions and throttling. It's simply impossible to do that

@NaNekoRx10

3 ай бұрын

​@@boarhog1979its pretty easy actually... With maths!! lol but if you choke on this cup of water..

Great video and topic

I ditched my k&n air filter on my sport bike (carb) it was letting too much air into the air box and messed with the air/fuel mixture. maybe if i jetted the carbs and adjusted mixture screws it would be ok.

Just ordered the Wix, good review from Project Farm.

I never had any issues by using K&N. But K&N also has dry flow air filters without requiring to add oil. AEM is also another good brand of reusable Performance air filter just like K&N. But AEM is also a dry flow filter. Try a dry flow and see what happens.

@RayIT560

8 ай бұрын

I agree with you, try the dry filters. To many people over oil there filters and damage MAF sensor. Another brand I like is AFE, they also offer dry filters, I been using them for years without any trouble.

@jimmydeslondes9531

7 ай бұрын

I have been searching high and low for the K&n select dry filters for my truck (2019 2.7 ecoboost f150) But I have only been able to find the drop in flat dry K&n filters for tacoma on amazon. I cannot find the K&N select dry drop in filters for f 150 anywhere. you have any leads?

I heard what I wanted to hear, a true revision that matches the mechanic exact words: Sports air filters are in opposition with engine longevity. Thank you!

This is very true. I mean if you hold the K&N up to the light you can see the light coming through like a wet screen door. OK maybe not that bad, but still not good. I used a K&N in my Silverado for years. I never had any engine issues but when i wiped my finger on the intake tube downstream of the filter, there was real fine dust all on my finger. At that point I told myself never again. I stick to OEM filters now. It might have not caused an issue right away with my engine, but it was a Vortec 350 and are very well built. Maybe a different engine wouldn't fare very well with that dust going into the engine. Because that leads to more wear and tear on the engine no matter how you look at it.

Your absolutely correct with your assessment of k&n good for the track bad for daily drivers longevity

Having a dirt bike background they're obviously designed for extremely dusty conditions, we used oiled foam as the OEM method its certainly high maintenance. What if you have an oiled filter foam, K&N or whatever on the intake side then a paper filter on the other side? Im gonna test this out. Im rebuilding my Tacoma right now and desire longevity of my NA air pump.

@vanhap

Жыл бұрын

Also right with you on the intake sound in a truck. I tried a K&N intake years ago and absolutely hated the overwhelming intake drone sound that I returned it. I went with K&N oiled filter but going to put a paper filter after it sandwiched in the box

I use K&N filter for all my cars more than 7 years and I have never had any issue. I have noticed more horse power and better millage on my cars after replacing filters. I always clean my filters after 2 to 3 oil changes as I have double filters for each car, I tend to wash them and oil it and secure them with plastic to keep dust away from them so I can use next time I need them.

@captainotto

4 ай бұрын

I also do the alternating filter thing. In my calculation, putting in the clean one then cleaning and storing the dirty one was more manageable yet still much cheaper than paper filters that just end up in the dump after a few thousand miles.

Don’t have the stock air box with mine, and it’s a cold air k and n So what would I do lol other then just replace with a new k and n filter or clean and oil it

@CanadianGearhead

Жыл бұрын

I think the main thing is to make sure you don't over oil it to keep your MAF sensor healthy

Thanks for the video I bought a Camaro that had a K&N air filter I took it out and replaced it with a regular paper air filter cuz I have heard what you're saying from others as well I prefer to go with what originally should be in the car

I wonder if they tested the filter with their filter wrap. I've got a full intake system from them with the filter wrap. Since the filter wrap obviously restricts a bit of flow but in return better protects from water and dust when offroading.

@CanadianGearhead

Жыл бұрын

I'd love to know how that compares to a paper filter in terms of airflow and filtration!

My F150's already got 300,000 km. Not worried about longevity at this point lol

Are these filters pre oiled from the factory ?

@esotericjahanism5251

2 ай бұрын

Yes

I sometimes use a Pipercross free air flow filter i've purchased, in my stock air filter box .... whenever i switch it to the stock paper filter i feel that the car gains torque instead of losing.......this makes me believe that simply running on a free air flow filter doesn't make your car perform better.....

You get much more filtering from a K & N filter. Aprox 2% more horsepower from your rated engines horsepower and Aprox 3% more torque. It's definitely more of a throaty sound with full acceleration. I have changed to this filter on the last 8 vehicles I have owned. There is a noticeable difference. This young man testing this could not be more wrong...On every level!!!

It "feels the same" is a very scientific answer 🤣 🤣 🤣

What about the Afepower dry filter??? I don’t clean them I just replace them

this guy is right on the money with the maf. replaced my air filter to the kn and turned out my car couldn't pass emission and was throwing p0172 codes. had to replace maf sensor yesterday. cleaned the air filter and will switch back to paper next week when I have time

@Scotford_Maconochie

2 ай бұрын

Cleaning the MAF sensor (with CRC Mass air flow sensor cleaner) would have stopped the problem and clearing the code would have made your car pass the test.

If thats the case then why do Toyota even sell TRD performance oil air filters? Which is basically an K&N

very genuine review

I run a paper filter, and do a lot of driving in very dusty conditions. The last filter lasted 5-6 oil changes before I bothered changing it, and it still would have been fine for at least another. So basically its 20ish bucks once every few years or 80+ and then the charge kit, and you also still wanna have a backup filter because it takes 24 hours to dry a K & N before you oil it. Sometimes you can get clearance plain box filters on Rockauto for less than 5 bucks each. It is a no brainer to me.

@CanadianGearhead

Жыл бұрын

Good point about down time while cleaning it!

@granthaller9544

10 ай бұрын

I just cleaned my K&N. It dried in about an hour. I think I paid about $40. I have had the car for 15 years and cleaned the filter about 4 times. I just bought my second cleaning kit for $22 since I use K&N on both of my vehicles. I believe I am saving money. It’s hard for me to believe that the oiled cotton is not filtering well, but I guess I have to believe testing. My vehicles have not had any serious issues. Both are 2005s.

I just use regular paper filters. Just swap em out more often. I use Wix. I have used K&N in the past with good results. But I never re-oiled or cleaned them. I just swapped out for new. Oiling a filter just seemed to defeat the purpose of flow. I have no problem using K&N. But I’ll just swap them as often as a regular filter. Expensive, but if 5-10 extra horsepower is important to you, then it’s worth it. My car is fast enough the way it is.

This heavily depends on the environment you drive in as well. If your car/truck is getting dirty quickly or fine dust is prevalent just stick with the throw aways

if they are maintained properly, they do their job properly. The oil absorbs the particulates that you are so deathly afraid of. So having them is a good thing. Over oil them and yes you can have issues with your MAF sensor. They DO work but once again, you have to properly maintain them!

@ericjarvis3051

6 ай бұрын

Watch project farms video test. You'll see the light

@yukonstriker1703

4 ай бұрын

​@ericjarvis3051 LOL who drives in fields full of flour? 😂

@HiTechOilCo

3 ай бұрын

@@yukonstriker1703 - What material would you have preferred to be used for the air filter test? The point is the size of the particles, not what they are comprised of.

Check out the filter used for the Baja 500. You can't test K&N with static airflow, you need the pulse and vibration.

@TRXMOE

5 ай бұрын

And an engine rebuild after the race

Thank you. I almost switched on my daily driver

Strictly OEM for all filters on the 4Runner. They fit properly and work perfectly.

@thehegt

11 ай бұрын

Hello my friend you used it for 5 years on that filter did you damage your engine yet ? 5 ficking years you got a lot fun out of that filter my friend throw it out and buy another one don’t reuse it

So for 5 years you never had a problem with K & N? No engine damage?

I switched back to stock paper filters too.

Bought my trans am at 130,000 miles.. installed the k&n and drive it hard, another 110,000 miles and finally a piston ring gave up. Hard to tell if that happened due to the k&n, but i don't really disagree with this vid

It makes sense and I have a 2023 hHonda Civic Si and I have a K&N for it but decided to return back to the paper filter after only 400 miles just because automobiles are just too expensive to even allow a little dirt into your engine . I’ve never had any issue with K&N and have used them on a bunch of cars I’ve had but the engines today are small and very powerful and it just makes sense to run them as they are intended to run .

@JohnBoulding

11 ай бұрын

@@executiveinvestments OEM oil filters are legitimately well made. Do you need a K n M oil filter with 10x the casing burst strength of OEM? I guess so if your oil pressure is 1200 psi at idle, lol.

@JohnBoulding

11 ай бұрын

@@executiveinvestments filtration nos great on my own filtersm.ypu must be thinking about cheap Fram _&#&#. I've run cars and trucks on factory air and oil filters (OEM) and have averaged 300k miles, some going nearly 450k. OEM filters meet engineer.specs for filtration, casing strength, anti drain valve and sealing. You might want to do more research on what OEM means. Filters like knN tout things like burst strength and anti drain but again, for non modified/track cars,OEM is all they need. I have done my research and have been rebuilding cars and engines since 1979 or so. You are confused about OEM and cheap aftermarket crap I think.

Nice 2007 v8 4runner I have the same year v8 4runner mine is just the salsa red @Canadian Gearhead

They have the new K&N Select dry air filter

For our street driven muscle car classics that hardly get driven and only in nice weather I’d say no problem at all with the K&N filters. I never drive them around any dirt or gravel roads.

You forgot to mention that HP can translate into better gas mileage if the driver backs off the throttle a bit. If you are city driving in a relatively dirt free environment and you drive allot of miles and gas prices are $7.00 per gallon sometimes, were I am, then saving 1 gallon for every hundred miles pays for the filter in like 500 miles. In the country I have seen what dirt roads do to an entire car. In that situation, I would put my own filter plus add the wix and just suffer the loss in gas mileage.

@Scotford_Maconochie

2 ай бұрын

Correct. Better airflow slight increase in power and the engine works less hard to produce it then add a cat back exhaust so the whole system runs more efficiently.

Agreed. I haven't run K&N filters since I was in my early 20s. They just aren't as amazing as people seem to think they are. OEM on my 4Runner and Harley for years. Really dig your 4Runner. Its much nicer than mine. What year is it?

@CanadianGearhead

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris, it's a 2007 👍

@Chris-0113

Жыл бұрын

@@CanadianGearhead Thanks for the quick response! Have a good night ✌️

I used to use K&N filters but after watching project farms test I switched. It was scary how bad K&N did at the actual filtering part.

@cantwealljustgetalong2

5 ай бұрын

if youre driving on regular pavement its completely fine

@ericjarvis3051

5 ай бұрын

@@cantwealljustgetalong2 I don't a good amount of time

@cantwealljustgetalong2

5 ай бұрын

@ericjarvis3051 thats probably it, the way i see it is, k&n must be doing something right theyve been around a real long time

Come to El Salvador and notice the incredible amount or dirt in the city. Any air filter resist only 3 months

I did too switched from k&n to paper filter. I noticed my maf sensor was getting so dirty that I end up with an engine code. So I cleaned my maf sensor cleared the code and got rid of the k&n. I also noticed more grime around the throttle body.

@CanadianGearhead

Жыл бұрын

Yup that doesn't surprise me

Paper for me. I once forgot to change my v8 4runner air filter for a couple of years and when I pulled it out to replace it, it was shockingly still clean.

@CanadianGearhead

Жыл бұрын

Impressive!

@somacoma2219

9 ай бұрын

@@CanadianGearhead A crack, or disconnected intake box will leave pristine airfilters years after they were installed.

@somacoma2219

9 ай бұрын

A pristine filter after extended use could indicate an air leak or disconnection. In otherwords your filter isn't filtering.

I've using those K&N filters for many years. Never had a problem! It took him 5 years...go figure! K&N are good filters if you know how to maintain them.

@ericjarvis3051

6 ай бұрын

Watch project farms video test. I used to believe they were good too. They are horrible at filtering. Not worth the unnoticqble performance gain.

@mnrodriguez

6 ай бұрын

@@ericjarvis3051, using K&N filters for more than 20 years. Never an engine problem. Nothing!!! I clean it every 2 years.

@HiTechOilCo

3 ай бұрын

The only issue is a reduction in long term engine life and efficiency. You wont notice small, incremental differences over the life of a vehicle that has the engine wearing out faster, until it's too late and the damage is already done. It's like cancer, you can't see it, but by the time you feel the consequences of it, by then it's too late and you're dead.

Have a check about what David Vizard think about k&n filters eventualy.

Have never used K&N or similar filters in modern vehicles, only on carburetor equipped cars & motorcycles in fact I've switched to the dual stage style foam filters which are very popular on dirt bikes for good reason they trap dust very well ,like the guy said those free flow performance filters let your engine breathe but happen when your on the road and there's dryed out dirt from a rain storm or busted bags of cement fell off a truck and other vehicles are kicking up clouds off dust ???😮

My Quest minivan cvt has better perfomance... my helltima too... but you saying facts..thats why I rather clean out debries more often

KN all day

@CanadianGearhead

Жыл бұрын

Fair enough!

I have been using K&N filter for 8 years and never had an issue. K&N does not ruin your MAF sensor and has been proven.

I have a dump truck with a k/n been running it 7 years no problem im in dirt Calichie all day .. no dirt in engine

@shanedottie

Жыл бұрын

How can you confirm there’s no dirt in your engine tho

@BB-xv6hp

Жыл бұрын

@shanedostie9002 bro you will know the turbo will blow I've seen turbine break from fine sand dirt

@shanedottie

Жыл бұрын

@@BB-xv6hp that can definitely happen yes but it doesn’t mean there’s no dirt in your engine. You’d have to open up the engine to know that

@BB-xv6hp

Жыл бұрын

@shanedostie9002 idk I'm in a dump truck in calichie pit hauling 10 hours straight for 6 years no problems or doesn't puss out like the stock filters when they are plugged try it saves u money

@shanedottie

Жыл бұрын

@@BB-xv6hp if it works it works, I love K and N too but hearing that it may not filter as much is definitely catching my attention

I don’t understand. If you had a K&N filter for 5 years and ENJOY the throttle response/mileage, why not just buy a new K&N filter and have it last you another few years or swapping it out every 2-3 years for a brand new one to keep the throttle response/mileage?

@LateNightDateNight

9 ай бұрын

Haha exactly my thought, it’s not that expensive

@ericjarvis3051

6 ай бұрын

Watch project farms video test. I used to believe they were good too. They are horrible at filtering. Not worth the unnoticable performance gain regardless of cost or change out frequency

@Mac206x

6 ай бұрын

@@ericjarvis3051 Yep I switch back to a paper one (Purolator) after reading more reviews. They aren't good at filtering vs. Paper filters

@mxxmey9792

5 ай бұрын

did you even watch the video? he clearly explained that the minimal horsepower gains didn't outweigh the amount of dirt that the K&N lets into the engine

@johndoe-nl8ze

3 ай бұрын

I didn't think of that before. I just re-oil them and clean them 😂

K&N cost about 2x the OEM filter but last all the vehicle lifespan, so is much more cheaper on the long run... I had been using K&N on my Kawa Z800 for 8 years and no problems (save about 200USD on OEM air filters)

I had 2 MAF sensors go out due to over oiling, I stopped using K&N oil filters.

@solovolante630

2 ай бұрын

Sounds like a user error and not a K&N problem

@uptownsamcv

2 ай бұрын

@@solovolante630 was definitely my error. I stick to a dry performance filter now just in case

Oiled filters such as K&N were originally used for farm applications. My friend once had a turbo cummings Dodge pickup and the dealer told him that a K&N air filter would void his warranty. I ran an oiled filter once, but it was on an off road buggy.

@CanadianGearhead

Жыл бұрын

Interesting!

I agree with you. we are not engineers. most ppl buy the sales pitch. If you want to unlock power you must tune the vehicle for actual gains. Remember more dirt in the intake equals intake valve premature wear and quicker cylinder wall scratches.

Had my 4runner for almost 5 years and always used oem style

I use oem filters, for the engine, cabin, and oil. In my opinion, Toyota knows best what specs/clearances/etc are necessary for the filters so the vehicle to operates as intended

@rockymntdan1

11 ай бұрын

My dad was engineer for Ford and he said the same thing about manu. specs. ESPECIALLY relating to transmission fluid. Told me to never buy after market fluid but only the fluid the manufact. recommended or endorsed.

I have a bmw 235. I use kyn for performance only. so far everything is ok😊

@oliverhutchings3853

4 ай бұрын

I’m gonna add one to mine, you had any issues yet bro n how long you had it on?

I'm taking your advice. I've driven quite a bit on the K and N filter, so I should feel something one way or another. Allowing more junk into my engine is definitely not what I need. I've got 210k on the clock right now. I'll follow up with you after say, 100+ miles Thanks for the solid research!

I prefer to use oem filters, they are made specifically for each model.

I had one in two different vehicles and never noticed a thing. What i got now i just use paper. Not paying for the filter or the oil and all that shit no more

A driver playing with their phone is more likely to write off your vehicle before a K&N air filter damages your engine.

If I saw correctly the wix filter isn’t really a paper filter…. It’s a woven cellulose fiber…. Many OEMs have gone to that as a factory design and your not gonna get much better than that without your sacrifice of filtration efficiency…… but if your going from a actual older design paper filter to a upgraded cellulose type filter your getting better flow and still good filtration….. if you want a closer look yourself look at cheaper wix/Fram filters that are the paper type then if you look at your wix it’s a tightly woven fiber….. I’d say going to a upgraded fiber filter is worth it for performance and fuel efficiency while not sacrificing filtration if you have a paper filter….. would you agree?

I say if you upgrade to a cold air intake get one with a closed air box like volant, AFE, or some injen models. Right now I’m running the factory system with a K&N air filter but thinking of upgrading to one of those I just named

@JohnBoulding

Жыл бұрын

The OEM box is best if you want daily driving low end. The Hemoltz and the box is designed to cancel valve lap and help breathing. It supplies more than enough air for the engine. Those aftermarket air boxes are just expensive noisemakers without a tune/ECU reflash.

Also decided to not put a K&N filter in, since reliability is a huge point for me.

What sunglasses are those?

@CanadianGearhead

Жыл бұрын

Oakley Holbrooks!

I ran a k&n on my 2000 duelly7.4 and lost 3 mpg.the truck was new at the time.went back to stock and the mileage went back to normal.

The oil tends to mess mass airflow sensors

1:50 I don't recognize the Toyota. This ain't normal Supra right? What is it?

@mikea5205

Ай бұрын

MR2

Soooo did Toyota make the wrong choice of air filters with Tundra TRD PRO. Those come with oiled filters from the factory. I recommend checking out David Vizard video talking about K&N air filters and the issue with the Project Farm test. Just my .02

@CanadianGearhead

Жыл бұрын

Did Toyota make the wrong choice when they designed the exhaust manifolds on the 4.7? Or the air injection system on 4runners and Tundras? Or the coating on the Tacoma frames? Toyota doesn't get everything 100% right. I checked out David's video - still waiting to see actual proof of his theory but it does make sense I suppose

@JohnBoulding

Жыл бұрын

TRD means they want to go full on "performance" in stead of engine longevity. You can find enough ISO testing on how much better a paper filters cleans the air vs performance filters to melt your computer/smartphones CPU..they flow more and...and more dirt..it's the basic premise of the filter and you can't escape that fact .

@be891

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnBoulding Full on performance??? Not exactly, the only thing the TRD team did with the Tundra is free up the exhaust and intake a bit adding maybe 10HP at best, and improved the off road capability. This would have zero effect on engine longevity. Engine longevity is more dependent on how hard someone drives there vehicle (excessive high rpm). You cannot compare the filtering ability of a fan that provides constant airflow, with an engine that pulses airflow. I really recommend you watch the David Vizard video I mentioned to get a better understanding. He is not only a world class engine builder but also an engineer. As I stated previously, no Baja engine would survive a 1000 mile race if the filtering was as bad as you claim.

@JohnBoulding

Жыл бұрын

@@be891 oh I've seen his video. I always refer to ISO testing. I have friend in NASCAR and they also tell me not to run these types of performance filters in DD cara. Many of them run KnN in racing application and when they tear down the engines it's apparent what's getting ingested. Facts are facts and to get higher flow, you must compromise something that's causing the 'restrictions' and that something is resistance to flow; aka filtering. For DD cars the OEM filter is best for long-term engine health.

@be891

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnBoulding Google how many engines that have gone over 200k miles using K&N then Google how many used K&N and did not because K&N did not filter appropriately. I prefer to use real world tests that we can see everyday, the millions of people that daily drive them with zero issues. Again we should have 100's of thousands of vehicles down on compression, lack of power and motors seized because of K&N. But that is not the case, and never will be because they provide efficient filtration for your motor. K&N is basically a household name for a reason and not just for the racing application, but the everyday driver that wants better fuel economy and power. K&N would have been out of business 50yrs ago if it was bad at filtering. And I think your friend at NASCAR would have a hard time stating his position with the folks at Baja.

Explain how carbon filters have basically no restriction but filter basically everything then😂

When David Vizard rates K&N who can argue? But for a normal road car I personally wouldn't bother, stock paper would be fine.

Apparently with static tests where you're just pulling air through the filter (in a test lab) the K&N will perform worse at filtration. However in a real-world scenario with turbulent air flow in a car accelerating, the K&N is meant to vibrate its layers thus trapping more dirt than a paper filter, all the while allowing greater air flow due to the larger 'gaps'.

@yukonstriker1703

4 ай бұрын

Logical reply 🎉

My truck is a 15 year old maratime veteran, could use all the filtering it can get lol

Thanks for sharing! Will be getting rid off my K&N next oil change

bro try the HKS open pod

Been using k&n for years and zero issues. Running in beach sand, dirt good and bad roads, again no issues.

@HiTechOilCo

3 ай бұрын

The only issue is a reduction in long term engine life and efficiency. You wont notice small, incremental differences over the life of a vehicle that has the engine wearing out faster, until it's too late and the damage is already done. It's like cancer, you can't see it, but by the time you feel the consequences of it, by then it's too late and you're dead.

@badkarma5776

3 ай бұрын

@@HiTechOilCo 69,000 still going strong.

I have been using K&N for ages and never have my car sneezed. I haven't seen dirt on the engine side air intake. It's very odd to see your video being so negative

I don’t really care about which one is better about performance because doesn’t really matter to me , I just don’t wanna clean up and put oil all the time , people talking about Cost , if you can’t pay $15-20 for paper air filter every 20-30k miles .then don’t drive :) . I work for $30 an hour i would just buy paper filter instead of pay for cleaning kit ,put my effort(30-45 mins ) and wait until it dries..

thats why ur meant to use the spray on oil with k&n filters lol if you use it properly you wont get any dirt

Just convinced me to return mine!

Good Comment

Put it this way, do you think a filter that cost $10 will filter more than one that cost $60?

Make that 2 people

Honestly I think 99% of people won't be able to tell the difference if you ran a blind test for a couple days. No chance.