Are Intel HX Laptop CPUs Worth It? 12900H vs 12900HX
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Intel’s new Core i9-12900HX CPU gives us 16 cores and 24 threads of processing power in a laptop, but how does it compare to the i9-12900H with 14 cores and 20 threads? This comparison will show you the differences and who HX is for.
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i9-12900H vs i9-12900HX Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:08 CPU Spec Differences
0:34 More Cores Doesn’t = More Performance!
1:00 Power Scaling
2:16 HX Extra Features
3:13 Laptops Tested
3:28 Laptops Specs & Cooling
4:07 CPU Clock Speeds
4:28 Power Draw
4:48 Temperatures
4:55 All CPU Tests
8:32 12900H vs 12900HX - 45W TDP
8:53 12900H vs 12900HX - 80W TDP
9:20 12900H vs 12900HX - 125W TDP
10:11 Gaming Test Explanation
10:53 10 Games Tested (1080p & 1440p)
13:16 12900H vs 12900HX - 1080p Games
13:36 12900H vs 12900HX - 1440p Games
13:54 Is HX Worth More Money?
15:10 Price Difference
15:47 i7 or i9? Which is Worth it?
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"those extra cores don't just run on hopes and dreams". tech quote of the century
@antrixbartwal3551
Жыл бұрын
Amazing hilarious statement ..when he first said it ..it felt so funny
@Pividol
Жыл бұрын
Timestamp?
@m.shehryar5341
Жыл бұрын
@@Pividol 1:39
I don't need. I WANT!
@somethingithink3731
Жыл бұрын
I already know that this comment is going to have 500 ilkes
@MarcoGPUtuber
Жыл бұрын
@@somethingithink3731 I hope! I love Internet Points!
@zeref9098
Жыл бұрын
No! I don't want that!
@bootyhunter133
Жыл бұрын
@@zeref9098 For 10 Years at least!
@I_killed_that_beard_guy
Жыл бұрын
Me too but they are asking for money that's not fair
The power scaling @1:00 is something I’ve wanted to see! This would be nice to see with AMD laptops too.
@12pure
Жыл бұрын
This!!! I always wanted to know how's power scaling between Intel and AMD laptops and even desktops. AMD claims and indeed have a better efficiency (perf/watt) and Intel have great peak performance with higher power, and to know this with charts would be awesome to see the difference between Intel and AMD microarchitectures in x86.
@TabalugaDragon
Жыл бұрын
The power scaling is bad on Ryzen CPU-s, hence more cores equals more performance even if power limit is the same. Jarrod should have mentioned this. Lots of people will be confused and go buy quad core ryzens for thin and lights instead of 8 cores even if they have the money and need more performance.
@xmg_gg
Жыл бұрын
Jarrod has already done AMD power scaling in these videos: • AMD Ryzen 7 5800H vs Intel i7-11800H - Best 8 Core Laptop CPU? [timecode 5:05] • Best Laptop CPU 2022? AMD Ryzen 7 6800H vs Intel i7-12700H [timecode 4:11] Check them out! // Tom
@HoveringAboveMyself
Жыл бұрын
@@12pure Hardware Unboxed also does power scaling charts, check out their review of the 12700H, 6800H and 1260P vs 6800U.
@mireaaa
Жыл бұрын
@@xmg_gg ayo, the official XMG channel!
Hello Jarrod ! Can you please make a video like this one about the i7 12700H vs i7 12800HX ? Because this video cleared my doubts regarding the i9 performance :) As always, laptop reviews = Jarrod's videos !
@Samdevay
Жыл бұрын
Waiting for it too.
@vijaykumarvc66
Жыл бұрын
Hello jarrod..! Can you please make a video like this one about the i7 12700H vs i7 12900HX Because this video Cleared my Doubts regarding i9 performance...
If there’s a way to disable E cores on HX CPU, technically the P cores can boost higher & widen the gap with H CPU
@12pure
Жыл бұрын
There is. 12900HX uses same silicon/package of 12900K/KS, including total CPU and Memory overclocking, undervolting, latency timings, disable cores, etc.
@xmg_gg
Жыл бұрын
You can actually also disable the E cores on the i7-12700H and i9-12900H in XMG NEO series. There is a BIOS setup option to reduce the number of E-Cores from 8 (max) down to zero. // Tom
@Winnetou17
Жыл бұрын
@@xmg_gg Hey, thanks for the tips! While we're here, do you know, does the HX CPU have cache ring frequency tuning ? Maybe even the i7&i9 H CPUs ?
@xmg_gg
Жыл бұрын
@@Winnetou17 I'm pretty sure the normal "H" CPUs have no such tuning. They don't even have Undervolting anymore. For HX series, I'm not sure how deep the tuning on 12th Gen HX is going because we don't carry it. You'll have to run Intel XTU to find out what is unlocked and what isn't. // Tom
There is a PCI-e lane difference for the H and HX series Alder Lake CPU. H series only gives you x8 PCI-E 4.0 for the GPU. The HX series originates from the desktop CPU, so it has x16 PCI-E 5.0 lanes for the GPU . For gaming use, just turn off the E-cores of the HX, and now you got all the power budget to shove into the P-cores, with more L3 cache , it will smash the H series.
The MSI Titan has a pretty extensive cooling system which is probably why your temperature readings were a bit weird.
Yes. We do. 😇
@JarrodsTech
Жыл бұрын
😎
@vijaykumarvc66
Жыл бұрын
@@JarrodsTech Hello jarrod..! Can you please make a video like this one about the i7 12700H vs i7 12900HX Because this video Cleared my Doubts regarding i9 performance...!!
I discovered that 6 core is great if the power and clock control are right. Plus with 12th gen improvements it makes sense going as high as the i7. That said having those extra cores for occasional multicore performance can be helpful. Especially if you game while having heavy rendering application. Better to get more for your money than keeping it. Awfully bad. I just wished those E cores would be more, well, efficient.
@bradhaines3142
Жыл бұрын
the E cores are just terrible implementation. they need to be way lower wattage, maybe even lower clock. and less of them. like 4 E cores is probably plenty, since they're on the E focus anyway. otherwise it should just whip out the performance
Another great video Jarrod. Hope your Helios 300 review comes out soon too. Eagerly waiting for that
@Samdevay
Жыл бұрын
Me too
A very useful video as usual! Respect, Jarrod!
Miss me with those e cores. Im buying amd strix point or dragon range next.
16 cores for heavy renderings or calculations will definitely be useful whereas for purely gaming/streaming? I must say, kinda overkill... Not to mentioned the price point of stock config & any available upgrades for it to boot... That's a lot of time & money to spend... With the current rate of advancement in I.T, It'll say you'll be paying premium for a short amount of its life cycle if you're simply buying it to flex the "LATEST & GREATEST" at hand... Still as always great presentation... Cheers!
16 cores lets go and since im stuck with 4 cores im always bashing it cause i know its limits and 16 cores sounds limitless
I am interested in seeing what an HX chip with disabled E cores and tweaked voltage on the P cores can achieve. 8 cores is more than enough for a gaming machine so it should theoretically be a better gaming machine than a regular HX CPU
@anhph1489
Жыл бұрын
I think it will be similar or better than i9 11900h about 5-10% at most. With 11900h run at 4.6ghz all cores, it already achieves R23 score around 15k points.
This is interesting, however, it would be more interesting to see the two CPUs head to head in 3D modeling and video editing scenarios, because: 1- The HX isn't necessarily a "Higher tier" CPU, it just has more cores, and they're both the same price for the reason in #2. 2- The H series has better integrated GPU (intel's 13th gen, while the HX has the 11th gen if I'm not mistaken) 3- Number 2 means that the CPU's codex which sometimes are better than Nvidia's for certain video playback and rendering works. 4- Games probably won't benefit from these 13th gen GPU codex as much. 5- So while The HX has more punch, the H has more brains, in a way. Kinda like German cars vs American Muscle lol My only issue is that the HX version is in the Legion 7i, while the H is in the 5i Pro... And while both have the same cooling, the 7 has better speakers and overall build quality, so I'm leaning towards the HX because of the other components that come with it in the higher end legion 7, gosh, I don't know why laptop companies never make perfect laptops it's like they intentionally mess up certain aspects lol. Thanks Jarrod, this was really great!
@Samdevay
Жыл бұрын
What about Asus Scar 17 or Scar SE. One can go for i9 version of 12900 H in Scar 17 and HX in Scar SE
@batmanonholiday4477
Жыл бұрын
@@Samdevay i wanted to say the same thing. does the Scar with 12900 H have a less sophisiticated cooling and no liquid metal though?
@Joe_Vibez
Жыл бұрын
😂 😂 I've been saying this for some time now. These companies know what they're doing. They pair some very good components with not so great ones, and you're left confused as to whether you should actually buy them. I saw a laptop on HP's site the other day. For customization, you either get a great CPU with an OK GPU, or you get a great GPU with an OK CPU.
great review as always.. now patiently waiting for Legion 7i Slim review..
@JarrodsTech
Жыл бұрын
Still working on it. Hopefully up next week!
Well to be Frank ..12900H is very much capable to perform all needs...12900HX is good but at the same time it is costly too...
So I have to buy the 12900HX, undervolt it and disable 2 of it's P cores to get lower power usage, but with the extra cache, got it!
I'd say that the HX is better solely for the reason that it's unlocked. Overclocking and undervolting will improve your performance drastically! I'd say maybe, on average, a 5% gain at least?
@boblablaw4857
Жыл бұрын
Ya but its silicon lottery. And on laptops it can be janky.
@batmanonholiday4477
Жыл бұрын
worth paying 400-500 dollars more for HX?
Random question Is it safe to keep a gaming laptop on charge most of the time
@korlik2142
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I’m doing it most of time and when I need to go out the battery is still holding well. Not like new but my laptop is 3years old now and 90% of the time it’s plugged in.
@Rascloon
Жыл бұрын
@@korlik2142 thanks for letting me know
150W on a laptop CPU only just blows my mind, but consider cinebench r23 is cpu intensive, I think it's acceptable. A 300W charger is probably capable of sustaining the whole laptop, both cpu and gpu
I needed this video! Having just bought the Asus Strix SCAR 17 I was having FOMO for not getting the SE version, but the jump in performance vs cost isn't worth it!
@batmanonholiday4477
Жыл бұрын
Hey man, I am in the same FOMO dilemma right now, the SE is almost 500 dollars more in my country, and I wonder if I will ever notice the difference in real life. Does the H version have a less sophisticated cooling system with no liquid metal? How do you like the machine so far? I need it for some 3d animation, and occasional gaming, content consumption
X is offensive as it reminds me about her…
@justinpatterson5291
Жыл бұрын
They should be called Y's. As in Y did I date you?
there exists also a 12950HX processor, which is used in some workstation laptops, like the HP Fury G9 as example XD
@GaminGiga
Жыл бұрын
and scar 17 SE.
@batmanonholiday4477
Жыл бұрын
@@GaminGiga what is the advantage of the 12950hx generally speaking, also, a bit better cash, unclocked and 65 watts tgp?
Yeah for the bragging right you definatley need them. I disabled the E- Cores on my 12900HX to make the others work atleast a little bit. Its just nice to have a little bit of headroom, if you play " Can it Run Crysis?" on a laptop these days the CPU is maybe at 30% utilization and asks what elses its supposed to be doing :)
@xmg_gg
Жыл бұрын
You can actually also disable the E cores on the i7-12700H and i9-12900H in XMG NEO series. There is a BIOS setup option to reduce the number of E-Cores from 8 (max) down to zero. // Tom
@Samdevay
Жыл бұрын
@@xmg_gg Do you sell XMG laptops in INdia?
can pls also compare games on msi with full 75w cpu or without any limit
@NightBlaze_Sr
Жыл бұрын
I feel like HX will start performing even better with this compared to H
MSI GT77 or Lenovo legion 7i 7gen maxed out specs?
@Samdevay
Жыл бұрын
I am also waiting for same comparison
@batmanonholiday4477
Жыл бұрын
id go for the titan... if price is not an issue to you..
I also asked this question a long time ago. Do you really need more than 2 cores?
I'm looking forward to reviewing the 2022 Vivobook Pro 16X, as soon as they come out I hope to see reviews from you, makes me wonder a lot about their battery life, oled screen life and if they have improved i/o ports along with touchpad placement.
I'm way more interested in zen 4 due to power efficiency. I know zen 4 laptops will have a price bump but for my use case, I think they'll be way better.
@ashyouknow7420
Жыл бұрын
Same!
@jayy499
Жыл бұрын
You love china we get it.
@ashyouknow7420
Жыл бұрын
@@jayy499 ??
@theredmarker7216
Жыл бұрын
Taiwan ≠ China ???
@Samdevay
Жыл бұрын
@@theredmarker7216 Most of Taiwan is controlled by CHina and encroached by China be it east Turkistan. Except of main Taiwan, the city can not even use Taiwan flag and Nancy visit caused huge uproar and bombing by China to Tawan. China does not appreciate Tawan calling itself a country, China has been encroaching slowly be it India, Japnese sea and Islands or other areas. In 1884 Qing China, took over the State of East Turkistan, known as Kashgaria, or "Yette Sheher" and renamed it Xinjiang
yes daddy Jarrod give me more laptop comparisons
Zen 4 16 core laptop parts are supposed to be almost 75% more power efficient at 65W. Now, I know AMD has never had 16c/32t CPUs in a laptop before, but their move to TSMC N5 based on desktop parts shows that at 65W TDP an almost 75% uplift, and since laptops are getting a 16c/32t CPU I have to believe that the performance improvements are going to be VERY impressive, more so in laptops than desktop since N5 is most efficient at lower power levels. I know the Intel die hards don't care, but for the rest of humanity you should REALLY wait if you need more cores because nothing Intel can put out will touch AMD 16c/32t laptops. They have now gone the same route as Intel in having thin graphics so it's almost completely power for the cores. Those laptops should be able to push REALLY high performance at a 65W TDP, but 60 - 80W should be the sweet spot for those CPUs and that's in the range where these Intel 7 based laptops are struggling with power to get two more p cores to give any benefit. Right now the math suggests AMD laptops in the 20 - 80W range with Zen 4 should be the most performant until Intel can come out on a smaller node. And it should pretty much be any workload, even the ones where the hardware accelerators boost 12th gen CPU performance such as stream processing.
@try1269
Жыл бұрын
Amd good , but the stability have some issues and also having so much core doesn't mean they got advantage , even Intel is the same , even tho AMD come out 16 cores I will say is dogshet and pointless , most of the time u can't even use 16 cores in one time , so tru ur point , I think ur biased
@try1269
Жыл бұрын
And ironically they used tsmc 5nm but still they just win a bit , meanwhile Intel improve 2nm can be a lot , I am saying the fact that , amd is rely on NM to boost the overall stats , meanwhile Intel struggling but still can better than amd with 12nm as u can see , amd not that special honestly
@thebrizzy
Жыл бұрын
I’m sure it would be a couple years before something like that is available and affordable.
@jayy499
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the ad bot.
One reason I choose the HX, and that is for limiting the wattages and the Mhz
@ultimategohan1551
Жыл бұрын
Limiting wattage can be done with throttlestop on regular h, just no undervolting
@bradhaines3142
Жыл бұрын
@@ultimategohan1551 they disabled undervolting?!
@ultimategohan1551
Жыл бұрын
@@bradhaines3142 correct, 12th gen nuked undervolting (only possible on HX chips) but you can still use throttlestop to limit the wattage.
@bradhaines3142
Жыл бұрын
@@ultimategohan1551 glad i got an 8th gen, i do all of the above lol
Im currently deciding between a legion 7 and a neo 15, so if you could compare those two that would be nice.
this video really demonstrate torque vs horsepower
GT 77 has pcie 5.0 compatible slot. How much bandwidth" pcie 5.0 compatible "slot has ?
Did you run the games with Optimus off?
@somethingithink3731
Жыл бұрын
Idk
@JarrodsTech
Жыл бұрын
Of course.
@vijaykumarvc66
Жыл бұрын
@@JarrodsTech Hello jarrod..! Can you please make a video like this one about the i7 12700H vs i7 12900HX Because this video Cleared my Doubts regarding i9 performance.....!!
Hey Jarrod and friends sorry to post this here id just appreciate if Jarrod or someone gave me an opinion for a decision between 2 laptops. Both are Legion 5, 15.6", 300 nits, 165hz, 1 tera ssd, rtx 3070. They are similar just 3 differences. Laptop (1) is an i7 11800h and 32 gb ram which i consider better with a 1080p screen which i consider worse. Laptop (2) is a ryzen 7 5800h and 16gb ram which i consider worse with a 1440p screen which i consider better. I want it to game with it for the next 6 years lets say. Main games like WoW or PoE and also able to play things like Cyberpunk, Rdr2 or Gta 6 when it comes out etc. I know i can change the ram or connect another screen but lets say i wont change anything about them. What would you recommend for a better experiencie? Slightly better cpu and double the ram or a higher screen resolution? Thanks in advance.
@marwanak10
Жыл бұрын
For gaming you focused on all the wrong components. For gaming you have to focus on the Graphics Card AKA Video Card AKA GPU. Spend more on that. You can find a Legion 5 with 3070Ti or if you want most bang for your buck, maybe a 3070, but if you want it for the next 6 years... Good luck, since new gen hardware is coming out literally next year, so we never know how games will look like in the next 3-4 years. So, I'd at least go with a 3080GPU if you can afford it, and nothing lower than a 3070
@korlik2142
Жыл бұрын
If you need to choose, always go for better cpu for games, 11800H >> 5800H for games. Because on the long run, you can always get a external monitor or lower your graphics from max to mid…but if the cpu can’t can’t push it past 30fps then there is nothing else to do.
See I wish you showed what the average CPU wattage use was in the games. I have a feeling not many actually use more than 50w in games anyway...
Hmm. . .It's interesting to see history is repeating itself. We took some leaps and bounds in recent history to adding more cores to CPU's and it really seems like we're hitting the upper limit of what you need. It's clear if you use adobe for anything work related that more is better. But wow if you do anything else I'd stick to the 12900H. Though I'm ironically still running an 8 core cpu in my main desktop. So anything new there would be a boost. 🤣
The issue is, if you have 1 gallon of milk🥛and have 6 kids to give it to evenly they will always get more milk than if you evenly give the same gallon to 8 kids. This does not mean less powerful it just means each individual core is getting less power resulting in lower scores. Core wise the HX is not much different, the main difference is in the high end where the extra cores are needed. This is just math, but it is good your explaining this to people. If Intel would have adjusted it so that 2 e cores would shutdown as the demand for power goes up you would have seen better results.
bought the MSI Vector GP66 HX i7 w/3070TI and i love this laptop best one ive owned yet!
For 3D rendering, especially 3DS Max, Corona, Vray, Ps, etc. Would it be better to go for i9 12900HK or i7 12800HX? Looking for fast renderings and multitasking heavy programs! Please help me decide
@Mithlinthar
Жыл бұрын
yeah, I'm also interested. I want to buy an MSI Raider GE67HX but I'm not sure if it's better to choose i9-12900HX or i7-12700HX version. The price difference is not that huge.
@korlik2142
Жыл бұрын
If price is not a concern go for the 12900HX. For faster rendering, it depends on the program you are using, most rendering engines are CPU only or GPU only. 3dmax you can choose CPU or GPu, you need to test to see the best scenario for your machine. corona is CPU only. Vray is CPU and VRay-gpu is well…GPu…
@CristianAllem
Жыл бұрын
Well, the original question was between i9 12900H not HX to i7 12800HX
@batmanonholiday4477
Жыл бұрын
@@CristianAllem hey dude, what did you chose in the end? same question. The different is like 500 dollars in my case, so for that money you could by a not bad external display or a cooling pad... that over like 2 minute faster render times
When you run a program that utilizes both gpu and cpu, it will never reach the max wattage for the cpu anyways for laptops, correct? If that’s the case, do these benchmarks actually matter in real world usage? I noticed that my 12900HK reaches 75-80W during stress tests, but in real world use, I’ve never seen it go above 45-50W.
@unknowncrash1
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's even the case for my i7 6700 hq, cpu is almost never maxed or close to max even on high loads. It's the graphics and ram for the most part. Granted I don't do 4k editing but even in video editing, ram and gpu are still prioritized.
@xkben90
Жыл бұрын
@@unknowncrash1 Yeah it seems that we have reached their power/thermal limits way before the clock/performance limits for laptop CPUS. My cpu should be able to reach 44x or higher on clocks but it caps at 38-39x due to high temps. I bet you’d get more performance just using liquid metal or water cooling over getting a higher tier cpu for all recent cpus. Only other reason I can see someone justifying these new top of the line cpus is if they are actually much more efficient in terms of temp and power usage.
@marwanak10
Жыл бұрын
Some laptops like the Legion 7 and high-end MSIs do max both at the same time, huge power bricks though
Which one is a worth buy... MSI ALPHA 15 ryzen 7 octacore 5800H or ROG STRIX G15 ryzen 7 octacore AMD R7 6800H ?
Thank you for the comparison, saved people from overspending
I thought the GT77 pushes only 75W to the CPU?
@JarrodsTech
Жыл бұрын
Definitely not, especially not in CPU heavy work with GPU idle.
@vijaykumarvc66
Жыл бұрын
@@JarrodsTech Hello jarrod..! Can you please make a video like this one about the i7 12700H vs i7 12900HX Because this video Cleared my Doubts regarding i9 performance...!!
@vijaykumarvc66
Жыл бұрын
@@JarrodsTech Hello jarrod..! Can you please make a video like this one about the i7 12700H vs i7 12900HX Because this video Cleared my Doubts regarding i9 performance....!!
You and CS Ghost Animation are very helpful
Nope 8 cores are enough.. or just get a pc
@somethingithink3731
Жыл бұрын
8 cores are good enough
@jayy499
Жыл бұрын
Honestly 4 cores are enough. We should make stronger cores not cous that fit more.
I really like xmg neo water cooled one, but im doing programming and design, and suffer from lack of space and clarity on my 2019 fhd predator 300. What would you recommend with 15/17 2k 4k screen, good battery life and screen good enough for web design/color accurate work? Gaming comes second so 3060, 3070 max, brightness was issue for me since im working in bright space so 350 or 400 nits minimum
Jarrod would you do a video on laptops with good performance and below par monitor?
Hey Jarrod, you're the best channel for laptop vidoes. Any chance you could review the hp omen 16?
@JarrodsTech
Жыл бұрын
I've been having some issues getting HP laptops this year, so I might not end up covering the Omen.
i like to see desktop cpu comparison videos to from your channel. best review channel ever
Super interesting, great job
@JarrodsTech
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@vijaykumarvc66
Жыл бұрын
@@JarrodsTech Hello jarrod..! Can you please make a video like this one about the i7 12700H vs i7 12900HX Because this video Cleared my Doubts regarding i9 performance...!!
HX is a productivity focused chip. It is there for workstations and running comparisons at 125w instead of letting it suck as much juice as possible isn't the point. Testing at 45 and 80w is just a waste of time.
Help help plz. My cinebench score is 9k+...but i don't know why my 2nd fan is not running even one time. I followed the movements on MSI center hardware monitoring system. I have only tested cinebench scores. Haven't played any game yet. It's a brand new laptop. Msi bravo 15 ryzen 5 hexa core 8gb ram rx5500m...
Great video as per usual man. Could I get your advice on something please. Im currently deciding between a Lenovo legion 5i Pro (I7, 3070Ti) and the Legion 7i (i712800HX, 3070Ti). Which you go for? Keep up the great content!!
@chrisux444
Жыл бұрын
RGB Better metallic build Unlocked processor Better cooling Lit up back port leds This is what the L7 provides over the 5. I may have missed somethings but if the cost difference is minimal go for the 7, if not the 5.
hertz and dreams
@xmg_gg
Жыл бұрын
😎
I really don’t see the point in limiting the power of the machines…if you are buying such a monster laptop you probably want to use all the power it needs…and likely 95% of the buyers are not changing power limits on their machines.
I don't need a 12900HX because a desktop i7-12700K exists at half the price.
I wanted to get the Strix Scar 17 SE, but now.... I'm not that sure.
@batmanonholiday4477
Жыл бұрын
what did you decide eventually? I am pondering the issue...
hey i have a suggestion , instead of showing power efficiency graph in bars show it in curve like apple does so it be more clean while giving same if not more information and please keep data of other cpus in one graph so that we can compare and find out the best one
@Winnetou17
Жыл бұрын
For this, the bar graphs are better. Fight me!
cant wait for some aliexpress sellers to frankenstein some i9 12900hx engineering sample onto a pcb and sell it for $200
Unlike instagram, more cores don't run on hopes and dreams.
OS Windows 98 RAM 500 mb Storage 10gb CPU Intel Celeron 300a GPU RTX 4090 Fans: 1 brown fan PSU 80w... This is my Cyberpunk build.
@learningelectronicsandco-rx4vk
6 ай бұрын
CHAD
What is a good laptop for VMs... what is good laptop in 2022 for virtualization???
Too bad not many devices are going to expose those mem and storage capacities of HX platform.. GT77 and it's Creator X17 clone seem to be only ones currently, excluding the 7670/7770 Dell Precisions with CAMM modules and nearly twice the pricing for the "mobile workstation" key phrase markup... Furthermore, it seems that MSI's 4x DIMMs solution is hampered heavily upon full mem utilisation - 4x32GB means downclock of the memory to 3600MT, so the performance could be even worse if you try 64GB in 2xDIMMs for H-series and in 4xDIMMs for the HX series... My guess is the H would turn out victorious in all power levels tests then...
I got the ROG Strix 17 SE 3080ti, i9 12950hx with 64gb ram. I'm good.
@Samdevay
Жыл бұрын
Price and any heating issues? Does it feel more heavy than others Like Legion?
@batmanonholiday4477
Жыл бұрын
hey man, tell us your experiences, is it worth it than just the 12900H version and why so?
150W CPU in a laptop this thin should be considered human rights abuse.
hello, which cost-effective notebook is best suited for video editing and studies
@nikcue2542
Жыл бұрын
Just save up $2000 and youll be fine.
One reason I hate this video, because because the guy didn’t even show the real gameplay, it was just ever so slightly in the background.
@JarrodsTech
Жыл бұрын
The guy has explained it here: jarrods.tech/why-i-dont-show-game-play-for-benchmarks/
@vijaykumarvc66
Жыл бұрын
@@JarrodsTech Hello jarrod..! Can you please make a video like this one about the i7 12700H vs i7 12900HX Because this video Cleared my Doubts regarding i9 performance...!!
i7 12700h is the sweet spot. Everything else is just noise and splitting hairs.
Please also mention that with Intel prior to 11-th gen and all current Ryzen CPU-s more cores equals more performance EVEN if the power limits are the same. Ryzen 5800h for instance performs better than 5600h at the same 45 watt power limit, as lower the clockspeeds - the more efficient a CPU runs and therefore more performance per watt.
That little bit of improvement is enough for me to get a hx over h
can u please make comparison head to head between msi ge76 raider and asus strix scar 17 which is better more reliable better to buy and build quality
@batmanonholiday4477
Жыл бұрын
hey, have you done some of this research since this post? I am a bit worried about the reliability of these machines
What about the differences between the 12900HX and the 12950HX?
Totally unrelated but can you tell me if I can keep my gaming laptop plugged in even after reaching 100% while playing video games or will it affect my battery life
@SwapnilSarkar
Жыл бұрын
Usually modern laptops come with power cut feature when it has reached 100%. So it should not affect. Plus while gaming, you need to be plugged in to make the most out of your laptop. So, you don't have an option here tbh.
@tariqahmed4532
Жыл бұрын
@@SwapnilSarkar Thanks mate
If you bought a 16 core CPU thinking it would work just fine with 45 Watts, welcome to the real world where miracles don't happen.
How's the battery life on these chips though?
@somethingithink3731
Жыл бұрын
Not good that's for sure
@somethingithink3731
Жыл бұрын
If you want battery just get a 2021 laptop with ryzen
@Winnetou17
Жыл бұрын
The max battery capacity allowed in airplanes is 99.9 Wh. That means that if the laptop consumes 99 W, the battery will last one hour. All gaming laptops have less than 1 hour of battery life at full load. The max life depends a lot on the settings used, the max power draw on the CPU and GPU (if there's GPU) the screen resolution & brightness, and many other small things (that do add up). If you limit the CPU at 10W and disable the GPU, it should be able to last for 6 hours, maybe more (max 9 hours). And for Intel chips with so many cores and usually so many slots for RAM and SSDs and USB ports, having lower than 10W for the CPU or all the other components needing less than 5W is kind of impossible. Technically, if you disable cores on the CPU (to only have 2-4 P and/or 4-8 E cores) and have a laptop with just 2 RAM sticks, just one power-efficient SSD etc, then having less than 10W consuption should be doable, and the laptop still working decently in light tasks (office + browsing with few tabs)
So, do you really need those extra cores ? People with lot's of money - Why not ? I can easily afford it to play CSGO.
This is getting close to a mobile workstation with a gaming gpu instead of whatever line A5500 is in. Might as well run external gpu bc this laptop will be tethered to the wall already.
So many cores on a laptop is such a stupid idea from a thermal perspective, it's not even funny anymore. It's like they threw efficiency completely out of the window. Instead of trying to make mobile cpus/gpus consume as little as possible, they're doing the opposite.
I am wondering if it is the same case for the 13th gen cpu on laptops🤨
@darickfoxo7986
7 ай бұрын
maybe not, hx has 23 core compared to 14 for h
I hope Intel 7 nm gives efficiency and next gen performance to laptop similar to rtx 40 series..🔥🔥
can someone explain to me what the letters after the 12900 are for
I can't find a good video on changing the TDP for laptop cpus, I have 12700H, is this something I could or should do? I would love a detailed video about it if you haven't done one already 🤟🙏
@xmg_gg
Жыл бұрын
CPU power limits are tied to the Control Center performance profiles of your laptop. You can use HWiNFO64 sensor view during a benchmark (e.g. Cinebench or Prime95) to see how much your CPU consumes in each profile. For manual tweaking, you might be able to use Intel XTU. In XMG NEO series, you can adjust the CPU TDP manually, freely, without having to adhere to specific profiles. // Tom
@jonathandiaz6
Жыл бұрын
@@xmg_gg thanks Tom that's solid info right there
Whats the best laptop to play the new cod
Have Money = Yes Don't have Money = No
But series h cant be undervolted no?
Try playing football manager and load every single leagues in the game.
Still waiting for you to test out machenike gaming laptops, its pretty cheap for its specs and it's a chinese brand, so its becoming really popular in Asian countries. Im curious if its worth the buck or not. 😅
you should add Escape from Tarkov, a very popular game that is cpu intensive in your games charts :)
THANK YOU !!!!!
Intel, electricity companies' best friend.
No.
@somethingithink3731
Жыл бұрын
Huh wdym
@somethingithink3731
Жыл бұрын
@Can a swallow swallow? okay
@assaultedzlayer8393
Жыл бұрын
@Can a swallow swallow? Hes answering the video title
Is it possible undervolt 12900h
Does anyone know a discord group for gaming laptop discount in the US?
With new RTX4000 and 13th intel gen chips coming out next month I’d rather wait for mobile version
i have some weirdly specific needs. 17 inch 4k screen, with the best screen and speakers but also expandable storage. anyone have suggestions? a 50 or 60 series gpu would be plenty, but under 1500$ is probly most important. considering a macbook but to get a big enough screen i need the pro that spikes in price without a real ability to game like id want to, and it cant be upgraded which is a bummer
@Samdevay
Жыл бұрын
very tough mate! 17inch 4 K are premium models. Dell XPS 17 is one but heavy priced to pocket $2,049.00 for i7 12700H and 3050 Check for Asus but that is maximum 16 inches
@Samdevay
Жыл бұрын
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@Samdevay
Жыл бұрын
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@Samdevay
Жыл бұрын
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@Samdevay
Жыл бұрын
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