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Former math teacher Sammy Obeid sets the record straight on the complicated and misunderstood history of "Arabic" numerals.
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I know this history. I am Indian. And Indians claim that Arabs copied hindu numerals and contributed nothing. That's not true. Khwarizmis contribution to mathematics is immense. He acknowledged the need for 0 (that he saw in Indian mathematics (Brahmagupta and Aryabhatta) and how it makes calculations easier. And developed algebra (and he is Persian not Arab). So is the contribution of fibonacci. However, your video with a touch of comedy is extremely interesting. I loved it. My guess is that there was always a concept of shoonya in ancient Hindu scriptures. That gave rise to a notation for 0. Several people and civilizations have contributed to the mathematics of today. We must not discredit anyone. Just like Khwarizmi did. He credited the Indians whom he learned from. And Fibonacci gave due credit to Khwarizmi.
@Buzz727
4 ай бұрын
his earlier book before algebra is underrated. his book "The Introduction of indian Numbers" is the sole reason we use this decimal type of number. many other civilizations are like Roman number, which difficult to use in math
@sapnaa6576
4 ай бұрын
@@Buzz727 exactly. People of today think borrowing an idea is copy paste in word document. That too a 1000 years back, I wonder how he translated the texts in sanskrit. I searched the web to get the exact history, I couldn't find any. The mathematics of today is due to him. He is the beginning. His understanding of the use of 0
@anniemaraj8773
4 ай бұрын
Nope your the frist Indian who makes these claims
@anniemaraj8773
4 ай бұрын
Shiva Om project on Kerala contribution to Calculus.
@kenkaneki9138
4 ай бұрын
He is perceived as Arab because he developed Algorithms, Hindu numeral, Algebra and all his other works in Arabic. This happened because Baghdad was the capital of the Islamic Caliphate and every scholar was learning Arabic especially the Persians. If we call Levantines and Egyptians as Arabs today because they speak Arabic then its not completely wrong to say he was Arab because the term Arab is no longer based on ethnicity but language.
The weapons of math destruction is the title of an existing book on algorithms
@joshuakurian4827
4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see Sammy Obeid review it.
@SammyObeidComedy
4 жыл бұрын
@@joshuakurian4827 I should check it out!
@beeque
4 жыл бұрын
@@SammyObeidComedy did you check it out during quarantine? Are we getting your review soon?
@adrijan6510
4 ай бұрын
Ok Myke Tython
@ibraheemdooba
4 ай бұрын
I’m surprised that this funny and instructive video got only 36K views in 3 years.
Good luck performing math operations with Roman numerals! XXX + X = XL (30 + 10 = 40), LXXXVIII + II = XC (88 + 2 = 90).
@anisalial-maghrabi3215
Жыл бұрын
Not zero in Roman numerals 😁
@Johndoe-mv5ii
Жыл бұрын
@@anisalial-maghrabi3215 It Has Alot Without Zero
@matejababnik9853
3 ай бұрын
hahahahahaha hahahhahah
@f4wnz132
2 ай бұрын
How do I identify the X when both X and X are equal to X.
@Ace-ng2pl
Ай бұрын
@@f4wnz132my brain stopped reading dat LOL
"if Colombus came now, he would've been right" killed me 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
We definitely need to keep Arabic numerals, as I discovered. When I was at school in math's class I had a bright idea; "what would it be like to do algebra in Roman numerals?" The answer; 'Very Confusing'! Confusing:- I, v, L, C, D, M with x, y, z, a, b, c, etc. My teacher was not amused by my experiment and it was emphasized that; Al-gebra requires the use of Arabic numerals.
@TheSilence1
4 ай бұрын
I suppose the racist people who want to remove "Arabic" numerals are people who can't do, and never do, basic algebra on their own. So it's no loss as far as they are concerned.
@ibraheemdooba
3 ай бұрын
Algebra itself was developed to what it’s today by a Muslim mathematician.
@sunshineandwarmth
3 ай бұрын
Roman numerals have always been a bit clumsy. I like knowing when movies are made and the dates on the films are in RN. Luckily, one day they were just MM. What a relief after 1999 in RN! Go Arabic Numbers!🎉
@ohm1945
3 ай бұрын
My car speedometer reads up to CCXX kilometres an hour. Most of our inner suburbs driving must not exceed L kilometres an hour. The Roman numerals speedometer has a foal face of of LC centimetres or XXIV inches. It needs to be this large so to capture all increments of V.
@anonymous18y
3 ай бұрын
Lol
You’re so good in narrating a documentary. It’s sharp, fun, happy, memorable moments. All of those makes us constantly thinking about your beautiful work. Love it
Only a mathematic like Sammy could put together this brilant idea. Power to you Mr. Obeid
Arabic was the base language for science in the ancient world. The Indus and Vedic, Persian/Sumerian and Egyptian knowledge from Alexandria was all translated into Arabic .
I love it Sammy!! Hilarious and historically correct!! Loved the Persian guy talking to the Europeans, Europeans:Ha ha Arab! Persian:"No I'm Per-(scene cuts)"
@SammyObeidComedy
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Iran-Tiger14
4 ай бұрын
@@SammyObeidComedy you are cool.
@Ianamus
4 ай бұрын
That was hilarious 😂 you are comic genius sammy
Had I have had a Maths teacher like you at school I'd probably not struggle so much as I do now with math.
You are a very educated Arab & A proud Palistino.
Netflix is asleep if they're not stalking you to sign a deal.
@megusato2212
3 ай бұрын
Netflix is asleep then
Sammy, you never fail to amaze me with your humor and intelligence. Don't stop. We need you.
@mars1pluto
3 ай бұрын
Thank You for educating the Americans on the history of maths. Please educate them some more.
Chinese numerals are likewise in base 10, but generally they don't use place value. 一二三四五七八九 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 十百千万... 10,100,1000,10000 Another cool fact about Chinese numerals is that they have bank note versions. Just like how we write out numbers on checks, they have more complicated character versions for numbers which are harder to edit. They're 壹,贰,參,肆,伍,陸,柒,捌,玖 ... 拾,佰,仟,萬...
@SammyObeidComedy
4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting!
@wacayssuleyman2380
2 жыл бұрын
They don’t use place value what? Elaborate that a little more please lol
@mottom2657
4 ай бұрын
@@wacayssuleyman2380 The East Asian numeric place value system is realized differently from the Hindu-Arabic system (be it binary or octal or decimal).
@ryojs4286
4 ай бұрын
Where do you think they came from And its not the only thing from india Bhuddism sprouted from India as well
@winstonyu1776
4 ай бұрын
@@ryojs4286As a Chinese, I will say I don't know where it comes from, but I think it doesn't come from India because that system is at least 2500 years old, and since the lack of place value, it is not good as Hindu-Arabic system, so should not be used in Algebra. Buddhism comes from India for sure, and I really appreciate Buddha's wisdom and teaching.
I just discovered Sammy a week ago! Brilliant comedy, based on historically correct information. What could be better than learning and laughing at the same time. Thank you! ❤
This was a genius combo of informative and genuinely hilarious jokes
Very educational and funny video, thank you Sammy. You are putting your talent to educate.
bro your integrity to give full acknowledgement of the indian origin is awesome.
@rajababy2009
4 ай бұрын
this is western peopl dont know about it other wise in arabic these are called hindsa which means from Hind (India)
@dragonmaster3207
3 ай бұрын
There Indo-Arabic which is awesome. They originated in India and spread to the Arabia then to Europe.
@user-uj2tk2tv3z
3 ай бұрын
@@rajababy2009only india , don't add Arab into it
@rajababy2009
3 ай бұрын
@@user-uj2tk2tv3z lol what do you think arab people did not know counting or people did not count before Indians , arab make those numbers from simple use in to complex use , negative numbers , algebra etc
@R33fs
3 ай бұрын
@@user-uj2tk2tv3zIndian inferiority complex. Need to pull everybody down so only you can be in the highlight?
Loving you videos ... thanks 😊
Excellent! Thank Mr. Obeid.
Really nicely done, appreciated, cheers!
Informative and fun to watch well done
I love the 7 ate 9 joke!!!!!😂
this would be mad popular with me and my middle school friends -
"Zero (0)" not to be confused with the letter "O", gave rise to the descendants of arithmetic like algebra, trigger, etc. When you start with "Counting" numbers and add Zero, a whole new world was opened up. 😎
😂😂😂 so many jokes... that animation where 7 8 9... priceless
“How can we remember ٩/١١ if we remove ٩ and ١١?” 💀
Wow amazing. This deserves more views
@SammyObeidComedy
Жыл бұрын
appreciate you!
To give some credit to medieval barbarians (I mean, Europeans) it is of no military advantage to use a code your enemy can easily decode?
@alfatazer_8991
3 ай бұрын
Medieval Europeans: If I can't understand my own Roman numerals than the Moslems can't as well haha! *Points at head*
Great video! Both educational and funny.
Knowledge is a collective of everyone in the globe the sooner we Amit this the sooner we can carry on and unite!! Thank u India for our numbers and thank u Arabia for ur contribution ❤ respect to all
@Wise__guy
2 ай бұрын
Yes knowledge is collective. But I have to correct you. You’re using the Arabic numbers so please send those thanks this way. India invented a zero! You can thank them for that. Imagine going through life not being able to tell people that you have zero of something!! That’s Crazy what an invention. Oh and a lot of the contribution and innovation were made by Persians and Kurds. What a doozy
Wow! Hi fellow math teachers, nice to meet you! And i always tell this math history to my students in every introduction class, so they become grateful muslim who love to learn math! And i have surprise you're Former math teacher too! In Indonesia, i know math education bachelor who become Stand Up Comedy too! And unlike any other, youre both hillarious and brilliant at the same time. Bluntly, Dark jokes about current event, masha allah! Sorry if i choose wrong words to describe...english is my second languange.😅
U are a phenomenal one bro keep it up
Sammy you are one of a kind ❤
123456789 are the Arabic numbers that we all use them today and they created them by angles , for example 1 has 1 angle and so on till 9
@user-uj2tk2tv3z
3 ай бұрын
The system itself is indian and all numbers are derived from indian numbers script You are talking about script Scirpt is irrelevant when talking about number system
Love this!!
I just wanna add that a Moroccan scholar named Ibn Yasmin was the one who took the Indian Middle East numerals from Al-Khwarizmi and developed them into their current form, relying on the angle system, and then the Romans adopted them cause it's easy to use.
@try2justbe
Ай бұрын
thank you!
Maghrebi numerals : 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Arabic/Persian numerals : ٠ ١ ٢ ٣ ٤ ٥ ٦ ٧ ٨ ٩ Hindi numerals: 𑁦 𑁧 𑁨 𑁩 𑁪 𑁫 𑁬 𑁭 𑁮 𑁯 The Maghrebi numerals were invented in North Africa based on the Arabic/Persian numerals, then brought to Europe by Pope Sylvester II (his real french name is Gerbert D’Aurillac), who studied science in Islamic Cordoba in Andalusia. Pope Sylvester II is the one who gave the name Arabic numerals to the Maghrebi numerals, while the Arabs of the Middle East never cared about them or recognized them, as they were not willing to learn anything from North Africa due the problem of the centrality of the Middle East in Arab-Islamic culture. It is even more ironic that Middle Easterners only learned about these numbers with Western colonialism, so we may hear some of them calling them _English numerals_ !!
@kamal777VVV
4 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@Blank9260
4 ай бұрын
This is all great information, but how does banning these numerals going to protect us from terrorism again?😅😂
@user-uj2tk2tv3z
3 ай бұрын
The system itself is indian and all numbers are derived from indian numbers script You are talking about script Scirpt is irrelevant when talking about number system
@HamzaBaqoushi
3 ай бұрын
@@user-uj2tk2tv3z You can go back to your indian script now and leave ours for good. Bharat has all the IT competences to make that happen.
@user-uj2tk2tv3z
3 ай бұрын
@@HamzaBaqoushinothing is yours You need to stop using indian number system and start using sentences to calculate just like Arabs did before learning indian number system
Walahi by this time next year you’ll have a Netflix special, you’re absolutely smart and funny 😂😂
Why so few views?! You're hilarious! I hope you get a Netflix special InshaAllah!
@sitraradliyah466
4 ай бұрын
His views are plenty... They just censored all the 0s at the end 😉
The current "English" numbering system was made by an Arab. The numbers were not adopted by Arabs because as Arabs had already adopted the Indian numerical system that is currently considered Arabic. The Indian numbers were hard to replace since their adoption especially since those numbers were also being used to number verses in the Quran. The Arabic numbers were first adopted in Spain and spread in Europe afterwards. and Arabs kept using the Indian numbers. FYI: I refer to him as Arab because all his work and writings were in Arabic not Persian language. That is why they are called Arabic numerals. not because he was an Arab but because he used Arabic as his language of communication
Sammy is a genius! 😊👍
This guy is the perfect combination between smart, well educated, words wizard and hilariously funny! Keep going bro!
As a Roman I agree! History is a lie agreed upon! This isn’t the west my people had in mind. I’m Sicilian and all these nations were rich and thriving and beautiful as they should be! Go get ur numbers Indians!! Save humanity!!
4:14 no numeral -> no physics -> no weapons of mass destruction
Arabic numerals are different than Indian. They have been reinvented in Morocco to what we have now. The arabs still use the Indian variant
@user-uj2tk2tv3z
2 ай бұрын
Arabs number are derived from indian numbers
@loneranger6361
2 ай бұрын
They reinventing the wheel , zero and decimal system,
Ooops! Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi - was from Uzbekistan (Xorazm)! Greetings from Uzbekistan, Khiva, Khorazm, Urganch!
Very informative
Excellent!
56% said, "Yes" to a ban, 15% had "no opinion", meaning 71% have no clue. ... Civilization post enlightenment....
The best documentary ever!
Dude That’s the only type of documentaries I want to watch
Essentially - the most appropriate and notationally accurate way to count is back from infinity in base infinity with index of infinity. So, I just stopped counting.
For those wondering, the survey is a poll conducted by Civic Science, a US-based market research company. The survey was designed to "tease out prejudice among those who didn’t understand the question" and asked 3,624 respondents whether schools should include Arabic numerals as part of the curriculum without explaining what the numbers were. The survey found that 56 percent of Americans think Arabic numerals should be banned from schools, while 29 percent said they should be included in the curriculum.
This is great..!
it is still technically Arab since during the time of Khwarizimi it was under the Middle East Rule aka Arabs and they literally spoke Arabic and used to have Arabic compilations during that time.
More than three quarters of people do not know the Roman numerals.
this is really interesting n funny. ty
This is amazing
Absolute Gold brother Obeid. Check out the movie, The Man Who Knew Infinity...
Hahaha.. you cracked me up with "body hair numerals"
I really like the video. But I didn't know what to do with my gum so I stuck it in the CD player, and I wasn't able to finish the whole thing. I miss schooldesks.
It is said that thery were forbidden by law to be used by traders, I think it was in FIrenze in 1199. It's a bit like schools today that ban the use of calculators or open ai..
Brilliant!!!!!
@SammyObeidComedy
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks brotha!
4:12 this exact screen i captured on 2003 Back then the US news called it "A-DAY" but that wasn't cool so it disappeared. I swear the media called it that. When US invaded Iraq i gave up hope. THAT image was day one of the war. "shock and awe" A DAY ( i swear the news said that shit
The concept of one symbol for one number is indian, but the shapes were mostly designed by Al-Khawarizmi. Indians were not the only ones to invent the zero as it was invented independently in different parts of the world, the oldest recorded one being in Mesopotamia by Sumerians around 5000 years ago in the shape of two slanted wedges. Moreover, except for the 0 2 3 and maybe 9, the numbers designed by Al-Khawarizmi do not resemble the indian ones at all, since his design was based on the number of angles in the shape of each numeral. Finally, Fibonacci popularised those numbers in Europe in 1202 through his Book of Calculation (Liber Abaci) after returning from North Africa where he studied mathematics in the university of Béjaia.
Wait wait i think something is wrong Correct me if i am wrong 1234567890 are the Arabic numbers that Alkhawarizmi made but with some changes because he originally made them according to the angles count ١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩٠ are indian numbers that arabs usually use ( especially nowadays) I think something in the video wasn't clear for me about the difference between those .......................... So i did some research The numbers made out of angles count is an Arabic thing but made by someone else ( not the Alkhawarizmi ) Later changed with time to 123.. And the ١٢٣.. are indian numbers converted to fit the Arabic writing ( same idea but different drawing ) And i guess the original indian numbers also got changed with time to 123. Too. ( The original indian numbers and the angles count numbers are different but both of them look like 123... )
@user-uj2tk2tv3z
3 ай бұрын
The system itself is indian and all numbers are derived from indian numbers script You are talking about script Scirpt is irrelevant when talking about number system
You're a damn hoot and i appreciate you.
You are too funny. Big Hello to you from Morocco
“If Colombus came now he would have been right” 😂 that was unexpected
My dyscalculia could not handle Roman numbers. I can barely manage basic numbers.
So funny and yet educational.
Love the Maz Jobrani ref lol😂
Haha the Columbus part was great. You had a hard time keeping a straight face
How come people stopped inventing language and numbers
Had to pause after "body hair numerals" - laughing too hard (primed, of course, after the rhythmic pic of Al Gore :-) )
If colombus came now, he would have been right... LoL
loved it
In the video 7 eats 9. In Turkish, 7 is "Yedi" which also means "ate", in a similar fashion to 8 in English which is basically pronounced as "ate".
This eas excellent 👌👍
at least in 9/11 you did not get to call the arabic numbers into Freedom Numbers like the french with the Freedom Fries...ironicly those are from Belgium i think
@user-vf7sg9be5r
4 ай бұрын
Shout out to the Belgians
Ugh so good! If you were my Math teacher I would have been a comedian hahahahahah
Love it.
The Western 'intellects' back in the days were so dense 😂
Al-Khorazmiy technically ancestors of Uzbeks as well. Because his name from location which is Khorazm(Region in Uzbekistan) his generation, his homeland become uzbek. Still there are shia or persian orign Uzbeks in Khorazm, Samarkand, Bukhara
This was so good!! 😂
The words algebra and algorithm, are Arabic words. The Muslims educated the world with their research and education in Spain from 711 -1492 we'd still be using roman numbers! You try doing long division with those!
I just now realized how popular the word algorithm is now because of social media.
In bottom line, if you know how to use numbers you can be dangerous. No matter nationality
How will the survey work with no numerals? They're Brahmi? Brahma is on this too? I love it! (Brahma Gupta- love it).
“Columbus would be right..” 🤣🤣🤣
Love it
Very good sketch. Professional.
If Columbus came here now he would've been right. 😂
2:30 did they use the word Hindu? What was the word
I like this informative comedian.
And the most devious plot: Arabic number terrorists are attempting to metricise us!
Columbus part 😂😂
"body hair numerals", brilliant!
As a middle eastern looking at my arms. The comment at 2:50 was not expected, and damn that hurts 😂