Archery | Why You Should Avoid Cheap Equipment

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I've tried being nice about this, and I've tried being reasonable, but people aren't getting it. It DOES take money to get into archery, and if you take shortcuts by buying cheap knockoff brands, you WILL be disappointed. Don't be one of those people.
You don't have to buy an expensive bow, but I can guarantee you that you WILL be happier with a better bow than the cheap fibreglass toys or the mock compound bows that you can buy for a bargain online.
Don't expect to actually use your bow for long if you're not interested in investing in your hobby or sport.
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  • @tianamorin5629
    @tianamorin56294 жыл бұрын

    I almost bought a $60 recurve. Waited a few months and then settled on a PSE razorback for $100 from my local hunting shop. Really glad I did. You've been the best teacher for me since I currently don't have one in person. Thank you for the videos!

  • @deadontarget8503
    @deadontarget85038 жыл бұрын

    For beginners I highly suggest buying used bow and name brand value arrows. Bows that cost much more than your budget can be had in great shape for great prices used as people upgrade to the newest model out. This gives you a very nice bow to learn with. Stick with brand names, I can't stress that enough. It's not paying for the name, it's buying the experience in design and build.

  • @NUSensei

    @NUSensei

    8 жыл бұрын

    Maintenance and support is also a factor. More people are familiar with the more common manufacturers and models, as they are usually quite modular. Coaches and other archer are more likely to be able to help you get your equipment in order, and archery stores will have an easier time tuning your bow and ordering replacement parts if needed.

  • @StevenCHKim

    @StevenCHKim

    6 жыл бұрын

    So dang true, and speaking from experience. Bought a $100 Amazon take down recurve bow at #30 draw weight and as I progressed to #35, #40 and now at #45 limbs and nicer accessories, the riser delaminated, forcing me to purchase an alloy riser that fit the same limbs. Wasted that $100 and was no bargain... Same with arrows. I bought 4 sets of crap carbon arrows before settling on Carbon Impact Ultrafasts and Super Clubs and was amazed at how well they flew out of the bow.

  • @RippDrive
    @RippDrive6 жыл бұрын

    "Shop "cheap compound bow"" Google ads hitting out outta the park here... I'm sure this $53 compound they are showing me is great.

  • @ofboriken

    @ofboriken

    5 жыл бұрын

    google4d "beginner" instead and got a result suggesting the diamond edge something. On sale right now for 349.99 in Cabelas. Dunno if it's good or not.

  • @stoutlager6325

    @stoutlager6325

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ofboriken The Diamond Infinite Edge and Diamond SB-1 are excellent entry level compound bows (Diamond is Bowtech's brand). PSE and Bear also make good compounds at similar price point. It's the step below this tier where things get hairy; anonymous brand knockoffs, you get maybe even less than you pay for and maybe even something mechanically unsafe.

  • @EverythingArtRelated
    @EverythingArtRelated8 жыл бұрын

    I died when you said "and then they go for a beer and then they shoot Kangaroos." Hilarious!!!!!

  • @NUSensei

    @NUSensei

    8 жыл бұрын

    This is actually a serious issue. There are numerous reports of native wildlife being (illegally) killed by compound shooters, and they have the telltale signs of cheap online purchases. This often raises the question of legal bow ownership in Australia.

  • @EverythingArtRelated

    @EverythingArtRelated

    8 жыл бұрын

    +NUSensei Oh. I honestly thought you were joking. Well then I take back what I said.

  • @dylanthewindwaker

    @dylanthewindwaker

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ivan Ross Kk

  • @Knifeobsessions357

    @Knifeobsessions357

    6 жыл бұрын

    I instinctively yelled at “NOOOO!” in my hotel room when I heard Nusensei. I really hate animal abuse.

  • @YeeThirty

    @YeeThirty

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@NUSensei fuckin bogans aye mate ;)

  • @zander5068
    @zander50688 жыл бұрын

    Someone at my school is one of those people who try to impress their mates with their $100 eBay compound bow and he doesn't even know a thing about them. Don't get me wrong I'm a recurve shooter so I'm no expert but I asked him what the let off was and he said it didn't have any. Kill me now

  • @jimcrants7517

    @jimcrants7517

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think some of these "metal risers with wheels on the end" that he's talking about really do have zero let-off.

  • @portfoliofotoz

    @portfoliofotoz

    5 жыл бұрын

    The NASP Genesis compound bow has no let-off. But I doubt your schoolmate has a clue.

  • @potassiumcyanide3857

    @potassiumcyanide3857

    5 жыл бұрын

    Some compound do not have let off those with wheel instead of cam for example

  • @jakoblindgren6604
    @jakoblindgren66048 жыл бұрын

    I would always recommed to start at a club if you have the option. They often have equiptment you can borrow and they will teach you basic form. I myself used the "weak and soft bows" of the club for six months before I bought my first bow as you might not even know what you want when you start out.

  • @henryjohnston6023
    @henryjohnston60238 жыл бұрын

    30 Years ago, my archery course in collage used fiberglass bows. Before that I learned to use a fiberglass bow in the boy scouts. I have a 30lbs fiberglass bow that I love to shoot. They are what the are and they are not hunting bows or target bows. It is a different sport. Love your channel.

  • @Waltham1892

    @Waltham1892

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Henry Johnston If you want to accept the limitations imposed by a fiberglass bow, then they are fine. Too little bow is a problem, too much bow is a problem as well.

  • @AntiBunnyStudio
    @AntiBunnyStudio8 жыл бұрын

    Since I've been doing archery a lot lately friends and family have been looking to me for advice, so Nu Sensei's video's have been very helpful. One thing I've come to recommend is looking to traditional archery for those on a budget. A good takedown wooden recurve can be had for $100-130 in the US. A bow like that can provide everything one needs to learn and to grow as an archer, without the expense of compound bows and all of their associated gadgets. Though certainly used bows are a good option too, it does limit your options to what's available, and what's available might not be the right fit. Sometimes warning people away from cheap bows can seem to new archers like snobbery against people with a limited budget (and archery snobbery does exist), but as pointed out in this video, there are plenty of affordable recurves for not that much more than the bottom of the barrel bows, and the takedown design makes for a much better value for your money since you can buy just one bow and upgrade the limbs as needed.

  • @antoniskatris1011
    @antoniskatris10118 жыл бұрын

    I don't know how things work in Australia but in the UK, and to the best of my knowledge in Greece as well, most archery clubs provide new archers with equipment at least for the first 6 months to 1 year. Also they actively discourage people from buying their own kit until they can have a rough understanding of their actual needs. Plus in your local archery club or nearby clubs you can find barely used Hoyt Horizons or SFs of different kinds, all great for the beginner/improver.

  • @mariasaugon2587

    @mariasaugon2587

    2 жыл бұрын

    i agree to this

  • @MikeMafiaII
    @MikeMafiaII8 жыл бұрын

    The last bit about arrows was recognizable, remember when i was just beginning I bought some fiberglass arrows with vanes on a bow without a shelf.... All seems so obvious in hindsight, but seemed logical at the time. Hopefully this video will keep people from wasting money, keep up the good work!

  • @scarlettstang1645
    @scarlettstang16457 жыл бұрын

    when I started, I used a recurve bow I made myself out of pvc. that lasted a year before I thought "well, I'll get a compound " so I got a cheap $40 compound and it was at the time awesome and a lot more accurate than the pvc bow. after a few mounths with that I began classes at an archery class. when I got more serious and wanted better results I picked up a diamond infinite edge, and man first time I shot it and felt what a real bow felt like, I was awe struck! it lasted me 3 years or shooting, matter of fact I've taken several 4th place and one 2nd place total with this bow and have placed 12th in my devision in nfaa indoor nationals (before flight breakups) I am now switching to a mattews halon x comp and going to free style. and let me tell you, if you are looking to start archery, there is a difference between a Cheap bow, and a real bow. it's a great way to start but to grow as an archer, you always get what you pay for.

  • @kimwarfield6320

    @kimwarfield6320

    5 жыл бұрын

    In this case you get what you make. My pvc bow pulls at a little above 80 lbs.

  • @Daylon91

    @Daylon91

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bows are neither accurate nor inaccurate. It's the person shooting it.

  • @Daylon91

    @Daylon91

    4 жыл бұрын

    @句丹句句と 尺ヨ尸卞丹尺 bows are NOT accurate nor inaccurate. It's about the archers skills. Unless it's a compound then even my grandma can look through the sites and point and shoot

  • @Daylon91

    @Daylon91

    4 жыл бұрын

    @句丹句句と 尺ヨ尸卞丹尺 no man give me any bow and I'll be just as accurate with it as the next bow.

  • @Daylon91

    @Daylon91

    4 жыл бұрын

    @句丹句句と 尺ヨ尸卞丹尺 are some slings more accurate than others? No of course not. It's all about training.

  • @zincyellowmach1523
    @zincyellowmach15235 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos, they have been helping me get through transitioning into shooting an Olympic style bow from compound. I have run into many of these ego guys you mentioned, especially trying to impress the recurve girls lol. I shoot Hoyt exclusively in compound and my daughter shoots a diamond infinite edge after buying a Barnett toy. I always tell people, even if you have to buy an older used bow, at least get a good brand. I have seen older Hoyts for as little as $150 that would slaughter those eBay bows. Anyway, keep up the good work and thanks for all your info!

  • @vertexrikers
    @vertexrikers4 жыл бұрын

    In Germany you would just rent a bow to use until you know you like archery. Just looked up one of the more expensive offers - it's like 27.5€ (that's 44.42 $AU) a month for a Diamond Bowtech Infinite Edge Pro - but you can start as low as €10 for a simple but good Compound, Longbow or Recurve. Many people keep using a rented bow for the first one or two years until they feel confident picking their first own bow. In fact that's how I got into archery - I rented a Hoyt Tenacity and fell madly in love with it, so I bought it as "used item" (since I already used it) and got it for so much less that the difference in price almost made up for the rent I paid before =)

  • @williamgalloway7262
    @williamgalloway72626 жыл бұрын

    Enjoy your videos and agree with you. Many times you can get a better quality bow from trade ins at your archery shop or even end of year closeouts. In 2004 I bought my bear trx32 for less than 300.00 set up to fit me with arrows and case and have seen no need to replace it as it is comparable with many new models and very accurate

  • @backyardarcher9471
    @backyardarcher94717 жыл бұрын

    When I first got into archery, I purchased an Amazon compound bow for around $150.00. Almost immediately, I decided I really enjoyed the sport and purchased a Diamond. Now I have an addiction and I look forward to a better bow and also getting a recurve and maybe a longbow.

  • @Rordoggaz
    @Rordoggaz8 жыл бұрын

    I totally agree, but i have a cheap bow. lol

  • @openshores4288

    @openshores4288

    6 жыл бұрын

    me too :)

  • @SeanMcCormick
    @SeanMcCormick8 жыл бұрын

    Yup. Made the mistake with the cheap Chinese arrows a couple of years back. Really messed up my shooting. Now spend what is required at the pro shop of an archery club to get decent arrows matched to my bow. What a difference!

  • @jaydensbookreviewandothers8806
    @jaydensbookreviewandothers8806 Жыл бұрын

    Incredible video!! We are new to archery and were looking for some solid advice on purchasing equipment!

  • @agnostic47
    @agnostic474 жыл бұрын

    Come on mate, tell it like it is. Don't hold back. "They're both crap, you're pissing money into....." Love it. Cheap crap is cheap crap. Not worth bothering with.

  • @hestetyder
    @hestetyder5 жыл бұрын

    could it be possible that you could make a video about different type of horsebows?

  • @Milan_chz
    @Milan_chz8 жыл бұрын

    Hi, there's a sport store in my country who sells all kinds of sport gears, and archery is included. I thought of buying those cheap arrows they sell but I would like to know if there're any risks for the bow itself. Like a cheap arrow could make a "dry fire effect" if the energy is not well balanced ? And then damage the limbs a little ? I mean they look ok but we never know. I could send you a link to the website if you see this question. Nice vids, helped me a lot lately to choose my gear, thx.

  • @Hannahnazir04_
    @Hannahnazir04_6 жыл бұрын

    I have a 70 dollar compound that I use for instinctive shooting. Is it a decent or cheap bow

  • @johnkeck1025
    @johnkeck10255 жыл бұрын

    So I have a 64" 35#@28 fiberglass long bow that I've been using for 10 years. I use it for hunting and target shooting but I would like to get a long bow to use for both and I can't decide on ether the bear 64" asuble or the martin Savanah. Which would you recommend? Ps. Really helpful vids by the way, I appreciate them.

  • @Rose_Butterfly98
    @Rose_Butterfly987 жыл бұрын

    is a velocity race ok or should I just buy a diamond infinite edge from my friend?

  • @semco72057
    @semco720575 жыл бұрын

    That is great information on the type of bow you should buy and also on the arrow selections as well. I am looking for an American made bow and invest in top quality arrows as well. Thanks so much for all the information and hope you are having a nice week.

  • @theamazinggoldfish8713
    @theamazinggoldfish87135 жыл бұрын

    I just made my 1st pvc bow with approx 40 lb draw for my backyard carpet backstop for $12. I'm loving it! Shooting 100 grain with 350 spines at 31" inches. Still love your videos Nu San. P.S. I love Olympic team recurve.

  • @michaelshort2388
    @michaelshort23888 жыл бұрын

    Just bought myself a recurve bow. SF Forged with premium limbs. Can't wait to get to the club tomorrow to test it out. :)

  • @maulanaodelia5193
    @maulanaodelia51937 жыл бұрын

    what about junxing M-120 compound bow, are you considering that as a crap bow?

  • @MostlyNotDps
    @MostlyNotDps6 жыл бұрын

    I'm curious, and i'm sorry for commenting on such an old video, what is a bow that you'd recommend for starting if a person wants to get into it? My wife expressed that she's always wanted to do archery. and I used to do compound bow. I'd like to do re curve with her, but would like to start with an alloy bow (not wood). Do you have a suggestion?

  • @yamikaga
    @yamikaga4 жыл бұрын

    We have a saying in the leatherworking community: "Buy nice or buy twice"

  • @anukkariyawasam6597
    @anukkariyawasam65976 жыл бұрын

    is the PSE Stinger extreme a decent choice?

  • @SophiepTran
    @SophiepTran4 жыл бұрын

    Not sure if I got a deal or not but I bought used. Went to a local archery shop and purchased a good condition Diamond Razor edge for 99 CAD. Setup was free. Bought a release and got a dozen used arrows thrown in for free. They're good enough for me, easton camo hunter 2114. As a bonus I got an hour of free range time to sight in which included some coaching. This is the way to go and I'm glad I didn't buy online or from the big box store.

  • @thecarnut9899
    @thecarnut98994 жыл бұрын

    I recently bought a cheap sinoarts bow off of Amazon as just a starter bow but the riser cracked within 6-7 shots

  • @AClown
    @AClown8 жыл бұрын

    Im new to archery. I bought a samick sage off of your advice at 35 pounds. I also got those carbon express arrows 31.5" 350 spine is that any good?

  • @oliverspira7634
    @oliverspira76347 жыл бұрын

    Is the Cartel Sirius a good starter bow?

  • @scs7790
    @scs77904 жыл бұрын

    I just bought a Kershes recurve. Probably not the best, but its for practice on targets. I shot a recurve my dad had since he was a kid from1953 and fell in love with it. My goal is to upgrade after I get good enough to go hunting with my brother

  • @peteg1696
    @peteg16963 жыл бұрын

    is this still your opinion in 2020? i had a decent bow 10 years ago, unfortunately i lost it in unfortunate circumstances and have since had two elbow surgery's, i bought a cheap topoint bow to try getting back into it, was this a mistake?

  • @street1234ification
    @street1234ification4 жыл бұрын

    Are the compound bow and arrows at Cabela's worth it

  • @alz2698
    @alz26984 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, i took your advice and so pleased i did, very happy with what i now have although it cost me more than i wanted to pay, i would have regreted buying any thing less.

  • @troyguinn303
    @troyguinn3034 жыл бұрын

    I bought a PSE Nova 4 and a Hoyt MT sport zr200 with the cam and a half system for $60 total at a local auction. Inexpensive isn't always a bad thing, cheap usually is and knowing the difference can help you spot a diamond in the rough. I've now got a decent platform to assemble a bowfishing rig onto (the PSE) and an amazing how for hunting (the Hoyt). Something satisfying about bagging the big one with less then a $100 setup while there are others throwing money at the sport/hobby wondering why they aren't getting results. Practice and knowing your bow is key.

  • @bowman321123
    @bowman3211235 жыл бұрын

    I have shot my Samick Sage for years both hunting and competition. Great shooting bow for $125. Really good quality recurve bows at a good price can be found at yard sales and even pawn shops if you know what you are looking for and keep your eyes open for them.

  • @calebhudson7352
    @calebhudson73528 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much man, I can't thank you enough for this video

  • @manikgutte78
    @manikgutte785 жыл бұрын

    Is the geologic intech 2 good? Its for 90$

  • @pauliegambino7832
    @pauliegambino78324 жыл бұрын

    Hi Nu! Speaking of cheap bows, may I know if you're familiar with the Geologic Initech 2 bow. Given my tight budget, I was looking for a bow I can develop my skill with, and not shell out too much at the same time. Is this bow any good?

  • @firstname7792
    @firstname77926 жыл бұрын

    Hi I am relatively new to archery, and have been looking in to getting a bow but I don’t really have lots of money (I am able to use the club bows in the meantime). And one of the coaches at the club I am a member at sells his second hand bows. Would it make sense to buy one off him (as he sells some at around £50) and just do you know he sells proper recurve bows not just some crap. Any advice would be welcome

  • @MrMCWolfCraft
    @MrMCWolfCraft8 жыл бұрын

    The bow i have now costs around 140$ and i really like it. It has an aluminium riser and fiberglass limbs. It has attachment points for stabilisers and plungers and sights. Something like this is what i would recommend to a new archer. If anyone here is Swedish and is looking for a great beginner bow, take a look at the Scorpion recurve from fondprodukter (Swedish company) it has points for attachments if you want to upgrade it later and you can get new limbs later.

  • @Carsgunsnfishin
    @Carsgunsnfishin7 жыл бұрын

    I literally can't find anything on my bow online (martin cougar MT-6 11) can you tell me if that's a piece of crap or not

  • @azen96
    @azen966 жыл бұрын

    So does pse snake good or bad

  • @mortiusvicimus8901
    @mortiusvicimus89016 жыл бұрын

    LMAO! Sensei, you are great, man! Hilarious! Learning a lot from you brother.

  • @netsurfers9357
    @netsurfers93573 жыл бұрын

    I've heard that Mandarin Duck Recurve is OK with shoot with, but I don't have any experience with such! What would you recommend as a decent hunting ILF bow... about 45lb draw?

  • @ShadowBoxer
    @ShadowBoxer6 жыл бұрын

    I started recently and have been buying almost everything second hand. The gear/ brands I got cost a fraction of what they were new. My budget might allow more mid to high end stuff but it was still 40-50% discounted. The two things about starting this way is one needs to do more research to have a better understanding of what to look for and why it's needed or if needed. Otherwise what do you buy? Everything is discounted 20-50% on the second hand market. You have to know what you are looking for - either a brand, a model, a size or a poundage, etc. This will help you narrow the choices to something reasonable and manageable. Time reading and researching is not going to cost money and will help one make a better first choice. The second point to keep to is it takes patience. Getting everything NOW will only cost more money. It took me over a month making different purchases from different sellers to collect one set of limbs three weeks later one riser and two weeks after that, the stabilizers. All second hand. Some of the other things like the sight and plunger, etc. I got at a discount but they are new. I will probably have to buy the KSL tab new and I will get books including KS Lee's book. Considering the money I saved on just the bow, I think it's okay to get a new tab and forming that with my own hand. Time to keep practicing! BTW, thank you NuSensei for your videos. I often watch them and even re-watch certain ones for fun or to refresh the information. Maybe someday I'll make a video about my starting experience. Cheers.

  • @TMVBassin
    @TMVBassin8 жыл бұрын

    couldn't agree more with this video, as with most of your stuff..spot on

  • @kayme4788
    @kayme47888 жыл бұрын

    What do you think of the PSE Stinger x 2015?

  • @AdamGrima
    @AdamGrima8 жыл бұрын

    I bought an cheap Apex Hunting Warrior`X compound bow. I picked it up used for $100 with; 5 pin sight, stabilizer, whisper biscuit rest and bow bag included. All I needed to add was a D loop, release aid and arrows, it was a great buy for me and most of the accessories will be transferable to a later/better bow. I've been shooting with it for 4 months now and loving it dispute knowing it is old tech (slow cams). I've picked up a cheap recurve (Cartel Triple) too in the last month to try compare the different styles of shooting and I'm enjoying it too. I'll probably get an Ignite or Infinite edge down the line as they are better bows and my local pro shop can support them better but if I had to get a $500 compound and $100 set of arrows to start I probably never would have started into archery at all. Just because you start with cheap equipment doesn't mean it is useless or you cannot learn with it or move on to better gear later. @NUSensei: Thanks for all the videos, I've learnt a lot from your channel over the last 4 months. There are no beginner courses available in my area (full waiting lists or no courses run at all), if not for people like you sharing their knowledge I would not have had such a great time learning.

  • @jtsoutdoorsandmore8136

    @jtsoutdoorsandmore8136

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Adam Grima (Stormwolf) i have an old bow , indian archery timberland stalker 40-60 pound draw produced in 1984 . it's old and slow but still great to shoot . picked it up at a goodwill for $50.00 just had to get new accessories and arrows . you can get into archery even on the tightest budget .

  • @airsoftmaster16
    @airsoftmaster168 жыл бұрын

    Just bought my first hunting bow a couple days ago a diamond provider with the RAK package dealer threw in a half dozen free arrows too (good carbon ones at that)...paid about 487 US dollars and couldn't be happier.

  • @Komainu959
    @Komainu959 Жыл бұрын

    If you find yourself wanting to buy a sub

  • @optimusprime6202
    @optimusprime62028 жыл бұрын

    For someone new like me, sometimes it's hard to tell whats crap and whats good. My compound hunting bow was a package with three pin sight, whisker biscuit arrow rest, and a quiver. $350 U.S. dollars. Seems to be doing the job, although I did end up getting a better sight, a drop away rest, and a nicer stabilizer. lol

  • @faizamir7608
    @faizamir76088 жыл бұрын

    I have 400$ to spend on my first bow I'm 16, Average build compound or recurve and which one? I want to practice and be perfect yet have fun. I'm from Pakistan

  • @potassiumcyanide3857
    @potassiumcyanide38575 жыл бұрын

    Is barnett vortex count as cheap bow?

  • @jimcrants7517
    @jimcrants75176 жыл бұрын

    That blue bow you're holding at 3:28 is just like the one my in-laws got for my son a couple weeks ago. We took it to a range in a local park, and neither one of us could hit the target, or even the straw bales behind it, from 20 feet. The tail of the (cheap fiberglass) arrow would kick away from the bow as the fletching passed the shelf, and it would go off-course by about a foot for every 10 feet it traveled. I can't see how my son's going to get excited about archery with a bow this bad, and I can't see how I justify to my wife getting a better bow for him if he's not excited about archery.

  • @johnbarron4265

    @johnbarron4265

    3 жыл бұрын

    A bow has to be matched up with arrows of the correct spine, or else it won't shoot accurately. I wouldn't trust any manufacturer that sells arrows with the bow as a complete package. For one, they have no clue as to the actual draw weight of the bow at your draw length. As NuSensei keenly noted, there is no such thing as a one-size-fits-all arrow. Even for a given bow, an arrow might perform well in the hands of one shooter and then that same arrow will perform terribly with the same bow in the hands of another shooter with a different draw length.

  • @themilkycow4050
    @themilkycow40507 жыл бұрын

    Are vista monarchs cheap bows?

  • @W00sy
    @W00sy8 жыл бұрын

    Hello folks, after watching this video i wanted some advice and opinions on wether i did good at buying my bow. 1st off its a used bow its SF optimo + buuuut the riser seems to be custom made(which i noticed right off the batch when looking at the add for it) the bow shoots fine(as any other would, right) feels nice, no vibrations every shot feels nice as i said and satisfying, consistant shots nice grouping with a bit of aiming, so all in all does the custom riser give out faults to the bow or not. I checked some sites(the SF archery site to be exact) u can order a replacement riser for the bow and all, but all i want to know was this investement of mine a failed one or not. Cheers

  • @johnbarron4265
    @johnbarron42653 жыл бұрын

    What about someone like me who wants to get into archery with a growth-mindset, but also appreciates old-school tech over modern tech? I find beauty in simplicity, and I quite like the ancient stick-and-string recipe with no shelf and a straight handgrip. Of particular interest to me is a US $50 one-piece 66" "English longbow" style of bow made by Chinese archery supplier Huntingdoor. It says it's made from an FRP epoxy rod, which I assume contains fiberglass, and the handgrip is wrapped with a rubber strap. I was wondering if you have any experience with their bows. My end goal with this bow, is to establish a consistent shooting form, strengthen my archery muscles, experiment with arrow tuning, and ultimately have fun doing lots of recreational target shooting, without the expectation of hitting the bullseye every time.

  • @smac919
    @smac9197 жыл бұрын

    Whats your thoughts on SAS Siege Compound?

  • @adamforbes1019
    @adamforbes10195 жыл бұрын

    I got my start in archery using a Samick Sage with 25lb limbs, and taking lessons and coaching at a professional archery club. That was many months ago of regular shooting and now I'm pretty decent. I'm now considering the PSE Rolan Snake, not for my own use or growth, but maybe to allow my friends to try out who are unsure if they want to do it, or for guests at my house who want to try shooting a bow for the first time. So it would be a loaner if they want to accompany me. I would let them shoot my Sage, but I'm always concerned about the one person who fails to heed warning or accidentally dry fire or drop the bow before I can catch them. The snake is reviewed as respectable within its class in that it supposedly rewards proper technique, and is supposedly nearly indestructable. Should a $45 Rolan Snake atleast be worthy of serving in this purpose, or am I better off otherwise?

  • @mRibbons
    @mRibbons4 жыл бұрын

    Before I found this channel, I bought a cheap (albeit well reviewed) $40 amazon bow and started learning the thumb draw. I've felt nothing but shame from you NUSensei!! My feelings and pride obviously mean nothing to you! ...that being said... I respect your experience and knowledge and plan to actually put real money into this hobby amazing new hobby, as well as find some coaching. I'll be back to report if it was all worth the extra coin and effort.

  • @philbateman1989
    @philbateman19897 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely don't cheap out on a sight. My first one was a £20 thing that was functionally fine as a sight, but you had to retighten all the screws on it after every 3 or so shots and it would make a huge SLAM noise every time you fired as it flexed like a beast. You don't need to go for the £300+ pro quality ones, but I would say look in the £100 range for something that's not going to need constant maintenance and won't crack like a whip on every shot.

  • @coytheboy

    @coytheboy

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yella Dart and a sight will go from bow to bow with you as you grow.

  • @joshwelker3507
    @joshwelker35074 жыл бұрын

    What you think about bows from Ragim ?

  • @dougeldredge
    @dougeldredge3 жыл бұрын

    and my black hunter was 110.00, sweet shooting bow, longbowt/d

  • @camaroguy2919
    @camaroguy29194 жыл бұрын

    Hey Nu Sensei. There is always the option of getting a good used recurve. I actually picked up a classic Galaxie Pluto its 44lb at 28. It was 40$ most time ther around 80$ but they are a sespectable bow for hunting or target practice. Depending on length of course.

  • @theamazinggoldfish8713
    @theamazinggoldfish87134 жыл бұрын

    I got into archery via a garage sale buying a 25# "supposed" recurve (sports flight) by barnett sportsflight for $2. I made my own 35# pvc bow and understood "cheap/frustration". I jumped up to a $80. toparchary 50# hunting takedown recurve. To much # to quick. After 30 shots I was shaking on aim..... Just bought a $80. 55# compound leader accessories (same as SAS seige, Hotka, Rambo, and half a dozen other names) and am thoughly enjoying shooting the 70% let off bow. Nusensei is right on the cheap sights as I have had to add a three pin hunting sight. Have also added a peep sight, limb savers, brush arrow rest, and string dampners, as well as a short stabilizer. I am shooting mossy oak carbons with 350 spines from Walmart although I added feathers instead of veins. I love Nusensai's video's but I still think that this $80 compound is well worth the price, and is a great step up to a hybrid compound bow which looks like my recurve.

  • @haythamheinrichsaeth264
    @haythamheinrichsaeth2646 ай бұрын

    Too late, but I'll take extra good care of it. Money is so hard to come by, but I always love archery.

  • @theamazinggoldfish8713
    @theamazinggoldfish87135 жыл бұрын

    Okay you were right Nu sensei. I am buying a decent bow and stashing the pvc bow I made in the corner. I can't wait it's in the mail.

  • @osvaldogarduno8117
    @osvaldogarduno81178 жыл бұрын

    is a Bear Archery Cruzer RTH (Ready To Hunt) Compound Bow Package a cheap bow?

  • @NUSensei

    @NUSensei

    8 жыл бұрын

    Bear is a reputable manufacturer.

  • @lliu27
    @lliu277 жыл бұрын

    very useful tips, thanks

  • @sblackwolf2645
    @sblackwolf26455 жыл бұрын

    I'm contemplating getting the Mandarin Duck Phantom, is this a bad idea? The price range is low for the bow alone.

  • @greenhoodedvigilante458

    @greenhoodedvigilante458

    4 жыл бұрын

    That is different. This video is very old though. Mandarin duck phantom is fine bow.

  • @leonwatkins5072
    @leonwatkins50723 жыл бұрын

    I have a Oneida screaming Eagle bow which I love I didn’t buy it for ego I’m super open to advice I’m joining a club when they reopen in uk I just love Oneida design and smooth drew

  • @aussiegirl3813
    @aussiegirl38133 жыл бұрын

    My brother mentioned the same thing to me not to buy cheap bows ie. recurve, but he understand in some circumstances why I done it, but I’ve just order something slightly better. Black sheep recurve is so so but advoid buying it unless your on a tight budget

  • @chengong388
    @chengong3886 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if these basic cheap bows are comparable to historical bare bows.

  • @redneckwithajeep5001
    @redneckwithajeep50016 жыл бұрын

    My first bow was a Ben Pearson jetbow. I didn't spend a dime on it because I simply found that thing in the garage hanging on a nail with a few fiberglass and aluminum arrows I had simply found on the property with vains I took up the hobby. Shot that thing everyday for months then I realized I wanted to actually progress so I spent $300 on a diamond razor edge. I still have that bow and shot it till I broke all the arrows I bought for it this year but 7 years is pretty good to not break or loose an arrow so I can't complain much. About a year ago someone gave me an old Bear whitetail hunter. From what I understand it's more or less the bow that put compund bows in the mainstream. It's like someone took a recurve and cut the ends off the limbs to put wheels on it then they more wheels on it for cables. For me it works for shooting at a Target but I've always got better options

  • @lagideath
    @lagideath5 жыл бұрын

    Nu Sensei, what do you think of the DRAKE Black Raven take down recurve bow? It's 150€ on a German site I found called bogensportwelt[dot]de . I want to start again with bow and arrow after years and I really like the design of that bow and it's not very expensive (I don't have a lot of money). I only have an 18 pound bow from my youth and I want to upgrade to a completely new one now.

  • @Shaker4x4
    @Shaker4x46 жыл бұрын

    Haha, my first two bows I purchased are 62" Samick Tigersharks on sale on Amazon US. They aren't available in Australia, but niether is the Samick Spyder after extensive searching. Only one seller had an ok price, and shipped via cringe worthy DHL in five days. These bows are basically 3rd generation Samick Sage, and I can't see any difference in milling of the riser compared to the Samick Spyder. For two bows, it was about $540 delivered. Postage alone was $120. It worked out maybe $40 - 50 more in total than purchasing a Gen 1 Sage here in Australia! They came in their factory boxes, each with two dacron pre-waxed strings, and an allen key for the limb bolts. I'm happy with them, but in my quest for my future done, and dusted bow collection, I have a 60" Bear Kodiak, and 54" Bear Cheyenne in mind. I won't touch compounds for various reasons, and the traditional recurves appeal to me as simple, reliable, and challenging. I have a 29.5" draw length, and find the Samicks are good for that, but I'm concerned with a bit of stacking on the Kodiak, where string tuning by twisting, and limb savers might be appropriate. All of these bows are likely to be all I need, and willing to invest in most likely. A lot of money goes into equipment, so I want to get it right from the start. These bows are for my partner and I. She has a much shorter draw length than I. We have a local club, but when buying equipment, funds don't stretch toward club fees + insurance. This is another important consideration, and thus, careful attention needs to be focused on what the pros are doing on KZread, so as not to develop poor form, until you can afford a club, or have tuition from someone in the know. But I think one can get by with KZread teaching you the ropes. NUSensei does a great job at explaining things, but the best thing is to go out and practice, practice, practice. I can shoot at home, and do have places I can go to practice, so not having a club range is not the end of the world for me at this time.

  • @hgfjyrdetryu
    @hgfjyrdetryu8 жыл бұрын

    I have an sf forged plus and I love it its amazing!!

  • @leeprice133

    @leeprice133

    8 жыл бұрын

    Pretty much any of the entry to intermediate level Olympic recurve-style bow from well-known manufacturers will give you something that you can have a good time learning the sport on.

  • @user-bf6bc4ne8f
    @user-bf6bc4ne8f8 жыл бұрын

    Pearson Cougar 7050 62" AMO 40# @ 28" , What type of string silencers would you suggest. I have been encouraged to purchase carbon 500 spline arrows with 125grain tips, but what length would you suggest.

  • @NUSensei

    @NUSensei

    8 жыл бұрын

    I don't have a recommendation for string silencers (we don't use them in target recurve). For arrows, the rule of thumb is to buy arrows at least an inch longer than your draw length.

  • @minalora1
    @minalora17 жыл бұрын

    Would a crosman Elkhorn compound be a good starter bow? It costs around 50 dollars but all the reviews I've seen say it's good

  • @NUSensei

    @NUSensei

    7 жыл бұрын

    It looks like a pretty generic youth bow. This means little adjustabiilty and little room for growth. The kit can get someone shooting, but it's going to give as much of a window into archery as a kids tricycle will introduce you into cycling. Reviews are very skewed, as the people buying these bows are getting them for very simple reasons. The bow will work, but no archer will recommend them.

  • @mattludford5291
    @mattludford52917 жыл бұрын

    Just purchased my first bow today. Went with an SF Forged Plus Riser, SF Velocity Sight, and 24lb Axiom Limbs. SF Plunger and SF Axiom Long Rod. Aiming to not have to replace the Riser or Sight for quite a while.

  • @sannox01

    @sannox01

    7 жыл бұрын

    I bought an SF Axiom+ light with 34lbs SF Limbs, a cartel sight and long rod and the plunger came with the riser, over time, I upgraded the plunger to a Shibuya, the sights to a Decut one I like, full stabilisers set by Kap Winstorm (It works) and the riser and limbs have been great as beginner level equipment, I'm now looking at upgrading after 18 months of this bow, to Win&Win, possibly the Winact VT or, if money allows, the Inno AXT. You should be good with that riser and sights for a good while :-)

  • @avoidcontact88
    @avoidcontact887 жыл бұрын

    I got lucky and found a $250 Martin recurve bow for $30 at a garage sale. I plan to take it to a local shop to get tuned.

  • @Loum1s
    @Loum1s7 жыл бұрын

    +NUSensei how about the chinese Jandao recurve bows??? are they good? they seem legit though

  • @NUSensei

    @NUSensei

    7 жыл бұрын

    They're starting to become more common in the market. They're more known for their crossbows, but their recurves look legitimate.

  • @Marcikutyaful
    @Marcikutyaful5 жыл бұрын

    After 3 and a half months I change my starter equipment. Now I already know what is my archery style (olimpic recurve changed to modern longbow). Fortunately the starter pack wasn't so expensive.

  • @monte4891
    @monte48913 жыл бұрын

    Is why I bought a Samick sage elite which is actually a Galaxy sage elite as of 2020.. for 150 dollars I love my purchase. When it comes to compound bows your hit it on the head... I didn't want to spend 200 plus dollars on a cheap compound or 400 plus on a good quality compound.. recurve is the best place to start if your on a budget and like you said 150 or 200 gets you a good bow even 135 bucks since the samick sage starts at that price down to 120.

  • @JuggernautKitty
    @JuggernautKitty8 жыл бұрын

    i have a $150 folding survival longbow and it's great.

  • @r3d2aku
    @r3d2aku4 жыл бұрын

    How about the snake bow, seems like a lot of beginners use it.

  • @roberthamm1495
    @roberthamm14956 жыл бұрын

    Got a used Bear Grizzly 55 lb draw 6 weeks ago and its the first real bow I've had. So i got me a few of those china arrows cause i knew i was going to be losing arrows. In the first 6 arrows i lost one. So far I'm down to just 4 arrows, but my target area is building up, and my skill is getting built up everyday i get out to practice. Got some more arrows coming from china need them to work on my focus, and my form. Better arrows will come in later.

  • @mmmtea1263
    @mmmtea12637 жыл бұрын

    I'm from the Mornington peninsula(Victoria Australia) and is a samick sage good. Also where can I get one

  • @14112ido

    @14112ido

    7 жыл бұрын

    Flaming Monster22 he made a review video about it a few years back and he liked it. If you want to hear his own words on it, just go watch his Samick Sage review video.

  • @YeeThirty
    @YeeThirty4 жыл бұрын

    I almost bought one... but ultimately went with a takedown recurve, glad i did.

  • @Qim2609
    @Qim26098 жыл бұрын

    is sf forged + and infitec challenger one of those clumsy bow ??

  • @NUSensei

    @NUSensei

    8 жыл бұрын

    They are very good bows from good brands.

  • @joe-_-
    @joe-_-7 жыл бұрын

    but what if the target is 60 meters away

  • @Oshia666
    @Oshia6665 жыл бұрын

    Well I'm quite pleased with the 68" 30lb Armex takedown bow I bought recently (Sage clone), I think I paid £55 ($68) and I can't fault it.

  • @kekc2181
    @kekc21818 жыл бұрын

    May confirm Diamond Infinite Edge is really good thing for start, though every one who buys compound need to understand that they will HAVE to buy rest (drop away better) as i haven't seen a stock rest that was not bringing some crap to aiming, on infinite edge the rest was macking an arrow "jump"(do not know how it is called on English) that made aiming sort of hard when arrow goes nuts from time to time spreading group all over target, so i changed it in less than two weeks

  • @jonedwards7019
    @jonedwards70198 жыл бұрын

    The cheap blue fibreglass bow you have can't accept much in the way of accessories, but if your aim is to move on to traditional instinctive archery like English longbows, is that maybe not such a bad thing?

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