ARB AIR LOCKERS vs FACTORY LOCKERS!
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Figured we would take the opportunity while in Washington to stop in at ARB 4x4 Accessories to go over the differences between air lockers and factory lockers in most off road vehicles!
Hope you all enjoy the video!
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It's nice to listen to a manufacturers rep that knows exactly what they are talking about. You should do more of those factory visits; winches, recovery gear, tents, axles, lights, etc.
No problem with oem lockers ( front and back). Unimog 404.
For about $1k less then an ARB air locker I had an OX cable activated locker with the electrical solenoid option installed - push button activation convince - immediate action! NO air leeks to chase down - no differential tear down for an air leak.
that was super informative and always great to see shots behind the scenes. Stay safe Kevin, Brittany and Jelly!
Had the issue he talks about at 13:00 with my "Professionally installed" ARB in the 8.8 in my TJ. Only instead of leaking, the seal housing spun around on the bearing journal and the copper line was chewed up by the ring gear. Twice. Got on the phone with ARB USA and they sent me a new seal housing for free. (~$100 part. Awesome customer service!) Ordered an install kit, and set the differential up myself. Ended up with .060" more shim than the "professional" did when they set it up.
Awesome video. Learned a few things about the ARB airlocker. Keep em coming!
My JK came with ARB air lockers from the former owner and I always wondered how they worked. Thanks for the video!
Awesome video....showing the break down of how the locker works....helps alot of people understand....Brittany (orphice/try not laughing....lol)🤣.....Kevin keep it up💪.......Jelly was sooooo tired 🐶...can't wait till your next video....Safe travels
Great video guys! Really great in depth on ARB lockers.
Probably one of your most useful and informative videos. Nice to hear an expert on this product, especially ARB Lockers. Obviously he is well informed....Thank you...
Thanks very much for the video 👍🏾👍🏾. Now I understand not only how it works, but why it's the best & strongest. Thanks Scott 😊
Lol very cool video..while Iam force to practice social distance, you guys are chilling and having an amazing times..thank you for giving up relaxing content and thank you for sharing your life adventure to us
Great video! Super informative
So many thanks for this vid, I learned a lot! Stay safe and healthy out there!
That guy is wrong about the 100psi in a little line makes it 600psi. A 100psi in a 2” line vs a 1/4” is still a 100psi. The velocity (speed) of the air moves faster in a smaller line. Bernoulli's theorem says that there should be a reduction in pressure when the area is reduced. ... The narrower the pipe, the higher the velocity and the greater the pressure drop.
@KurNorock
4 жыл бұрын
As you said, the pressure remains the same, it is the force that drops. 100psi across 1 square inch is 100 pounds of force, but that same 100psi across a half square inch is 50 pounds of force, but it will move twice as fast.
@frontiergeek4953
4 жыл бұрын
JKL is correct, 100PSI inside a dirigible ( if you could ever inflate it that high w/o an explosion ) would be the same as the inside of a portable air carry can in your 4x4. PSI is PSI, its absolute, not a volume relative measurement.
@EoWKen
3 жыл бұрын
@@frontiergeek4953 Would you mind taking the time to explain what effect this has in relation to what the guy in the video said? Is he just incorrectly describing an actual change in performance or is there no difference?
@TheRoostersGarage
3 жыл бұрын
@@EoWKen As JKL said, its still 100 PSI, but due to the small size line the air velocity is much higher, meaning its got the same push behind it (pressure) but the speed of the air is faster. It locks fast because of the velocity of the air. The ARB guy is trying to explain why its so quick but got the why wrong
Amazing explanation after years of wheeling its the first time I understood how the lockers exactly working
This is one of the many reasons I love your channel. ARB is simple smart, perfect for the rough necks driving these rigs. You guys are helping so many subscribers with basic offroad engineering and tips, add E3 offroad to your setup and your set. Fyi, I saw a sweet rig with a Lite Brite sticker on it yesterday. That is the first thing I look for when I see a sweet crawler. Anyways, love you guys and your family's, be safe. 👍🤙
@LiteBrite
4 жыл бұрын
😊🤙
Great video. It was good to see how they work. I was always nervous about them because I guess I never really understood how arb lockers work. Thanks great video
Informative video, I now understand what a diff locker does and the difference between an electric and air locking system, well done.
This is very technical, but a very good explanation. Thanks!!!
Thank you for this video. After the guys quit in the last video maybe we will see or understand why now. Thanks, stay safe!! Love yall!!
@gregvanwinkle8545
4 жыл бұрын
Well that was cool, didn't tell is what happened to the one that quit in the other video but I will have to go back find that guys KZread channel and find out what he found.
That was awesome information! I knew the concept but never had it explained on how superior ARB is.
Guys, this is an excellent tutorial. I learned a lot. PLEASE do MORE like this !
Next stop should be to get a lint roller for Kevin’s T-shirt. #Jellynation 😉
@DrHavok1
4 жыл бұрын
Why are you paying so much attention to people's clothes ffs
@frontiergeek4953
4 жыл бұрын
ROFL
Crazy cool lesson today! Thanks LB!
Thanks for the video guys. I always liked ARB.
I loved these videos , ♥️♥️💯🤙
What a GREAT video ... Many Thanks !
LOVE ARB...My TJ has their products.,..My 4 year old compressor for my lockers failed... Took it apart and found the fail point. I sent ARB a message with a video of my issue to see if they have a rebuild kit for sale and they said I was out of warranty by several years....so they sent me a new motor and it was at my house in 3 days...LOVE ARB..Best costumer service I have experienced in forever and in the USA based in Auburn, WA USA
I also learned!❤ Now, I have something to tell my father and brother because they like things like that!😊✨ So that I can relate😂
Thanks for this, its something I didnt know I wanted to know!🤙👍
Informative video! Always been a little skeptical of air lockers since I figured there were more places for potential issues with them, but this made me rethink that. Thanks!
@MrJcjet
Жыл бұрын
You're right to be skeptical. Roughly 10% of air lockers fail on every off-road trip in my experience. I kept track for a few years on land cruiser association trail events. In the same time there were zero factory Toyota locker failures.
It was very interesting!!! Thanks for this video :)
ARB lockers and products, another Quality Australian Owned and Made product. Good to see Americans being able to trust and enjoy our products.
Great information in your videos .thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the informative video. Planning on getting those lockers eventually for my 06 tacoma. Have the ARB bull bar bumper for the front that getting installed this week . Figure I might as well stick with the same company for the locker and apparently its the best setup .
I love the videos!!!! Keep the videos coming!!! You’ve actually got me motivated to start over landing my Jeep commander !!
Well this video sold me on putting ARB Air Locker's in my JKU Wrangler, when I regear next summer.
Ozzie Ozzie Ozzie Oie Oie Oie. Thanks for a real explain, so much clearer on the benefits now. Air is the future (for my ute any way). Again thank you. Nice to see the instore backdrop at ARB shows pride in its roots, didn't even black out the NSW or SA plates. Respect.
Placing an ARB in my rig now, thanks Lite Brite!
"We want it to go in fast and hard" - ARB Guy That's what she said LOL.
@danieldehay5198
4 жыл бұрын
Elwyndor that’s hilarious
Very cool and educational video. Thank you
I’ve had an ARB in my rear D44 for 10 years. Works without fail. Disconnects instantly. Been living in Utah for 6 years and needed a front locker to be able to wheel on the more advanced trails out here. Could not afford another ARB D30. Bought a Yukon Zip locker and never looked back. Operates just as well as ARB and is supposed to be as bulletproof as the ARB for $200 less.
This was actually really helpful cause I never really understood how the air lockers worked
I’m sold! Had ARBs in my peged diff Defender 90.... it was based on simple reviews that I chose them but this!!!! In my gladiator diesel 💪👍👊
Great Vid. Now I know what setup I’m installing in The Breacher, my H2.
appricate video, I agree install is key but I love my Eaton Elocker
Great video! Nice to know!
Great video guys, stay safe
Awesome video! I run ARB lockers on my 2013 JK
Way kool!!!!!!!! So simple... Great video!
well done Scott
Wish Scott would come to Australia and train one of the private owned franchise owned centres especially the one in Brisbane south east as they really lack the expertise on this topic. My experience was an absolute shocker that took 18 months to resolve due to the assembly of the locker not done correctly by the Melbourne factory. The franchise store refused to open it up and look to see what the issue was instead where happy to blame other factors which did not exist. Vehicle was only a year old. They promised a replacement but that never happened. After 16 months of complaining I eventually got the Corporate owned ARB centre to look at it. The tech at this centre was absolutely brilliant. They simply did what should have been done in the first place and opened the locker up to find that the tension spring had been installed the wrong way around and had jammed the locking cogg, so simple. They fixed it and also had to replace the front axle which had a badly damage spline. Lockers have been running well, no complaints. Just won’t get my new vehicle done at a franchise store. Highly recommend the product just go through the ARB corporate centres.
Great video learned a lot.
Good morning guys and gals hope your all doing well , theses ARB lockers seem really cool !!!!
Thanks guys, this was very interesting
Excellent video....
Thanks guys. Great info.
Thank you for the information, I didn't know any of this.
Great video thank you!
Thanks kids,,Great Info...WOW !
Great video! Brittany did a great job not interrupting him at the beginning, you can see it was hard for her lol
@LiteBrite
4 жыл бұрын
I’m just one of those people that when a thought comes to mind, it immediately comes out my mouth unless I’m consciously holding myself back. 😅😅
@mcwendel8066
4 жыл бұрын
Lite Brite lol it makes for great back and forth with Kevin 🤙🏼😜
Nice video guys very informative it's going to be one hell of a giveaway keep making the great videos I'm enjoying them immensely. Hey maybe when SpaceX gets all their satellites up there you guys would get some really good Wi-Fi I'm glad that you guys are willing to do what you do to create please stay safe
Jelly Jelly Jelly !!!! Great information..
Hey B an Kev. Hi Jelly. Nice educational video, think I need me some ARB’s an some new lights
i was nervous about installing air lockers now i am not great video guys luv ya
ARBs front and rear. 98 TJ on 6",Dana 44s and 35s Life is good!👍
I learned a lot here. I also learned i will leave it to the pros. Hi Jelly!
Wow...like Britney. ..click... it all comes together....thanks for the education 😷😷 stay safe Britney & Kevin.
Very informative vid but i was a bit distracted....*cough *cough
Oh boy , have I had some heated debates over this one...... The biggest issue with the ARB is that the lockers just like all of the tools you have on board , you come to depend on. You run trails based on capability and the tools you brought to get through. That ARB simply isnt going to be there every time. Everyone go ahead and pile on but its not . Ive been there and had to drag a truck that was perfectly capable on its own before the compressor laid down , or an O ring went out , or a line went . Take your pick I have seen most of them happen. Now I have run some hairy shit , I have gone up Thompson hill dragging another very loaded truck behind me and I can tell you . When this locker fiasco hits you . It then strains everyone elses equipment getting you through. Is anything perfect ? God no.... Does a Detroit solve this ? Yes and no . When you break an axle it takes the locker with it. Its not a nice to drive as an ARB locked truck . I can go down a laundry list of things on the detroit and I have a few hundred thousand miles behind me driving Detroit locked trucks . Now I am not downing the ARB lockers. Shit breaks in this environment period. I am only saying that yes , the ARB does and will fail. Ive not seen one to date that the actual diff failed its always the control system . So prepare for that..... Sorry ARB guy , its just the truth.. Also , this argument about having to stop or whatever ? Yeah that went right by me . So you gotta stop ? I am not sure why that is an issue exactly... So you stop and do what you have to do then go again....A train of trucks off road is one of the hardest things to keep moving on the planet . mouths are running people gotta pee and its a giant social gathering.....
great informative video!
Absolutely hated my ARB lockers. The front was broke all the time with a 44 in a TJ. The rear was ok just had problems with air leaks. I could never count on making it out of a trail so I did Eaton e-locks. Posi in the rear and open in the front when they are not locked and loved them so much that I have replaced them in all three of my TJs.
I learned a little more today thanks. The ARBs on my LJ are amazing ~>
loved he said Samuria in the very beginning... LOL
I have always liked ARB's and have wanted one, but my Detroit's have never let me down.
@MattPratt
4 жыл бұрын
Everyone I wheel with that has ARBs has had issues. Typically they leak internally and pressurize the housing. When they fail to make obstacles, first diagnostic is to turn off the engine and listen to see if you can hear the hiss of the leaking ARB. I have a eaton e-locker in the front and on time the wires rubbed and starting blowing fuses. Took some finding. My Detroit in the rear has never let me down.
@jdsrcs8061
4 жыл бұрын
The installation is so important for them to operate correctly and be issue free.
@MattPratt
4 жыл бұрын
@@jdsrcs8061 Absolutely. I should have added, some of those people were professionals, not home gamers like myself. Postmortems by those professionals have indicated issues with the internals seals more than the lines run the by the installer. At any rate, having watched it all go down multiple times, I will be avoiding air lockers unless the manufacturers stop blaming the users/installers and fix their design.
@landc8442
4 жыл бұрын
I worked for a shop that sold and installed a fair amount of arb lockers, we never had a issue. I have a arb in my rig that I've had forever. It's never had an issue. The owner of the shop also had multiple vehicles with arb lockers and never has had an issue except maybe a bad solenoid once. But we always installed magnet plugs in all our our diffs to reduce floating metal debris which also lengthens the life of the differential over all and is a cheap thing to do.
Definitely putting these on my FJ 40
How exactly does the posi-trac rear end on a Plymouth work? It just does...
@jeepindave5464
4 жыл бұрын
Life's a garden. Dig it.
@PNW_Car_Mods
4 жыл бұрын
lol this might have went over the heads of a few.
@jeepindave5464
4 жыл бұрын
@@PNW_Car_Mods Thats a space peanut
@PNW_Car_Mods
4 жыл бұрын
@@jeepindave5464 lmao it's a classic for sure
@KrossGarage
4 жыл бұрын
except Plymouths didnt have posi-tracs. Posi is a GM term
Valuable information
Soo busy awesome!
Hey guys, have you thought about doing some videos on travelling and off road adventures with animals? Love your videos.
This was helpful because me and my dad are going to get lockers sometime soon so thx.
OX Locker FTW!! No stupid "quad seals" to fail or copper lines to break.
Jesus that thumbnail!! 😉
Awesome knowledge
Love the video and information put out, will deff look into these when I’m ready to add lockers!
Great video, we run ARBs in TJMAX and in MaggieMay excellant product.
well dang didnt' need all the fine deets, an overview of the ARB vs factory locker was what I was expecting and need
@SeriousSchitt
3 жыл бұрын
Well, you’ve got ‘em, so you’ll be so much better off because of it.
very informative about how the bearing race can shift over and wreck the seal housing orings during install.
I was all geared up for another video, and I locked in to you! Education and Entertainment has Empowered me once again. Wi Fi-ght it. Just go to a 24 hour McDonald's! Y'all are becoming the axis of my life. How about some lockers for Jelly, for when she gets the Zoomies! LiteBriteNationSpinsMyGears!
Super cool, I wish they had a 90 degree air fitting option for the dana 44 so I didn't have to modify my truss. Super cool
Random question ; when y’all went to dynatracs did y’all upgrade the Master cylinder ? I plan to go with dyntrac 60s and wanna know what y’all went with I’m thinking of choosing the mopar big brake master cylinder
Do more of these videos!
This thumbnail is spectacular. That is all. 😎
They are really nice ,but on that note really expensive... I used a aussie lunch box locker for the past 7yrs on a 77 cj7 with d44s front and rear and 38.5 swamper Tsl's.. in the rear I use a $60 spool... I dont jump dunes,, or rock race with it, I craw around for the most part,, that jeep has been all through upper tellico, and windrock.. and it has road manners aswell, def not my everyday driver, but often take it on 2hr road trips to go wheeling, also it has rcv axle shafts up front and Yukons out back,, and now that I just bragged on it,, its gonna explode next weekend when I go wheeling! 😂😂🤫
Nice video. Learned alot, but did notice when the Northridge dude was installing the carrier, he didnt use a case spreader.
The aftermarket locker market for the JL is still kind of slim right now. I think the best options are arb and ox. To me, installing an ox locker would be AMAZING for a manual control locker. But the issue is that the install is sort of invasive. So it’s got me considering an arb setup, compressor, tank and lockers. I’m told by a shop by me that you can get stainless steel braided air lines for longevity. I also think there’s repair, or line replacement kits.
Bad joke time. What do you call a Roman that went down on a blonde? Gladiator. 😁
Would have been nice to see how the factory locker works with a cut away like they had for theirs
@LiteBrite
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I wish we had one. It would have been cool to show them side by side!
Great advice from ARB. Guess what I didn't see in the video of the Dynatrac axle build with ARB for Foster Child... a case spreader. ;)
@LiteBrite
4 жыл бұрын
It’s not always needed, but good to have for when it is. 😊