300,000 views just before the New Year! Thank you!!

@Filthymotorsports

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I would be concerned about the forced but if one could be built strong enough, I bet it would be a great option.

@benluger7557

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the in depth explanations I have a question, for drifting a locked differential is a must would one of your e lock differentials work for drifting because the slack would not affect a car being that you don't end up rolling backwards and my daily driver is also my drift car so this seems very practical because i don't want to weld my diff looks like a pain to daily drive

@benluger7557

5 жыл бұрын

and would an ox locker work as well?

@jeremy8715

5 жыл бұрын

Do you offer a military discount? I'm interested in the OX locker (cable). I did look at the FAQ first.

@goitoutdoors

5 жыл бұрын

Congrats! I have a question about the Detroit locker. For an F150 IFS, would it cause any problems when in 2wd? Would it potentially cause damage to the weaker IFS?

By far this is the most comprehensive yet simple explanation of different differentials. Thank you, Ben.

@Filthymotorsports

7 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what we were going for, thanks!

@edwardkesock216

4 жыл бұрын

I know you did this years ago and you probably won't even write but man this was a great video I have a 1994 ford f150 4x4 with 4 inch lift and plan on doing 6 inch anyways after watching your Awesome video I believe I will be doing the (Spartan lockers) front and rear, I would like to do the Detroit lockers but I really dont have that kind of money and I looked up the Spartans lockers and similar ones like them through jegs and summet racing and they run around $320.00 give or take a couple 20.00,s

@steiny3353

4 жыл бұрын

@@edwardkesock216 ...I'm scrolling through here thinking, "no point in commenting here, after all this time", but there you are. lol What an interesting tutorial, and as someone else said "very professional" with no umms and arrs. I was soaking it all up. What a bloody good job. I wonder where this bloke is located. I've bookmarked this video for future reference. Bloody awesome.

@many-points

3 жыл бұрын

Great video. Thanks!

@freewillmusic808

Жыл бұрын

I knew nothing about diffs before this vid… now “i know king fu” - Neo

I've come back to this video multiple times over a couple years. Amazing video.

@Filthymotorsports

2 жыл бұрын

So glad to hear it, thank you!

THE best off road differential description ever. This presentation doesn't go overboard with sponsor support. 100% mechanics, installation, application and engineering. AWESOME video. Thank you!

@Filthymotorsports

4 жыл бұрын

So glad you enjoyed it, thank you!

Had a Detroit style locker before in a light vehicle. Annoying to drive both on road and off road. On road it was the worst if not being driven correctly. It would lock in a tight turn if letting off a little on the gas or started to engine brake. Needed to keep a certain amount of power or freewheel else it would lock up shaking and unsettling the car with screaming tires. Off road one felt there was lot of play in the system when in rock or uneven terrain. Very jerky because the wheel has to turn a little before power would be transmitted in the opposite direction. Every time the car would get over to the other side of a stone it would move an extra foot rolling before engine braking worked because of the huge slack in the system. It worked best when driven "hard" because then it would always behave like a spool.

@Filthymotorsports

5 жыл бұрын

Very well explained, this comment needs more likes to bump to the top!

@isaacmadhavan

5 жыл бұрын

@@Filthymotorsports Alternatively, you can pin it. :)

@rbrdly

4 жыл бұрын

This concerns me @Anders Sandkvist. I'm considering one now for cost and ease of use when I go 4WDing. Got a hilux dual cab. I also tow a camper trailer. Would you not recommend it?

@jamesmcnamara7484

4 жыл бұрын

Definitely a learning curve to a detroit

@G31mR

4 жыл бұрын

I have Lock-Rites (lunchbox/Detroit-style lockers) in both axles of my K10 and they've performed flawlessly for over six years. No learning curve, no clicks, no scrubbing, 99% transparent in daily street use. Perform in low-traction situations. Highly recommend. Only odd thing is that they cost as much a the Eaton Tru-Trac I installed in my Silverado.....

What a professional! No errrs n' aaarrrrs, no derailings, just perfect execution of message. Subscribed!

@Filthymotorsports

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Don't be too impressed, it took a lot of re-takes!

@isaacmadhavan

5 жыл бұрын

@@Filthymotorsports So cool of you to admit that. :)

@utubeozpat

4 жыл бұрын

@@Filthymotorsports At least you took the trouble.

@angelaphillips2348

3 жыл бұрын

LSD, "Small clutch pack, like you'd find in a manual transmission" ?? Might be one errrs

@jeradmiller4575

9 ай бұрын

2:20 I detect an uhh.

Still relevant and full of good info 6 years later. Thanks!

@Filthymotorsports

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. The only thing that has changed is that some Eaton E-locker models have changed to a positive engagement collar but only for larger axles. Thanks for watching!

This is by far the best discussion on this topic I've seen anywhere. Thanks for doing it.

This is the BEST comparison/explanation of all similar videos on KZread

I wish all KZread videos were this good. Heck, I wish any KZread videos were this good. Thanks, Ben.

Finally understood how TOR SEN diffs work. Thank you.

@Filthymotorsports

5 жыл бұрын

So glad to hear it, that one is seriously tough to explain!

@GnonplussedGnome

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah me too!

I've been offroading for over 30 years, I have never seen a better explanation of different style traction devices!

@Filthymotorsports

6 жыл бұрын

So glad to hear it, that means a lot!

The best, most concise and clearly articulated presentation on this subject that I have ever seen. I’ll subscribe for more of this type of quality content.

Thank you Ben! I was sold on an Eaton e locker but after watching this video I am seriously considering an ox Locker now.

That was probably the best explanation of differentials I have ever seen thank you!

Saved this video a good while back when I was hard looking for a non-open diff for my truck. Finally got around to watching it and you have earned at least a sub, like and comment. Great explanation on lockers and all their varying flavors! About to go check your website for inventory availability.

Great video! Best explanation on KZread of what a locker is, the different types and how each works, and pros and cons of each.

fantastic video this is the best demonstration of the different differentials I've ever seen really really good video thank you for taking the time to do such a great job to educate the public five stars to you

@Filthymotorsports

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you! It took a lot of work to put together so the positive feedback is great to hear!

Great video, really explained, especially for all us diy 4wheelers.Much appreciated keep up the good work.

Dude, my brain was growing and growing with each beaut of an explanation you gave and then right at the very end my brain exploded 🤯. So worth it tho, the fragments with come together as needed. Thanks man 🤘

I agree with so many others on here, this is the best explanation that I have ever seen. Thank you guys for putting this together! I hope that you continue to create more content like this.

@Filthymotorsports

6 жыл бұрын

So glad to hear it, we have much more in the works so make sure to subscribe!

Excellent video.....clear, concise, and easy to follow. Thanks for posting :)

@Filthymotorsports

7 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad to hear it, thank you for watching!

At first I thought it was gonna be a long vid and im not gonna finish it, but when i kept watching I found out that this is The Best Differential break down on the internet! Thanks ben

@Filthymotorsports

7 жыл бұрын

That makes my day! So glad you enjoyed it!

Hands down the best video I have found on information on differential traction modifications! When I get money saved up for a truetrac, I'll keep your website in mind for my purchase!

@Filthymotorsports

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I look forward to it!

If anybody is wondering why there aren't many vids on this subject, it is because of this video! ....very informative and very professionally done. Nothing beats a well presented, well constructed vid when broaching this sometimes confusing subject. Well done and many thanks.

You did a great job explaining and really seem to know the products your selling. Based on this video, I would definitely give you my business!

*Excellent video! I had no idea there were so many different types of differentials. I've worked with lots of simple open diffs and used to think they were pretty clever, but what you have there is absolutely ingenious. It's amazing that people actually came up with such elaborate designs. I almost want to buy one just to sit on my coffee table so I can admire it... that's mechanical art!*

@Filthymotorsports

Жыл бұрын

Lol, we love having them on display as cut-aways for that reason!

I understood all this but watched in its entirety just because it's so well presented. Thank you!

Thank you. It was sooo nice to see everything laid out so clearly. Great information. If this is your channel (clearly explaining things in a fact based way) I'm subscribed.

Ben, that was spot on and a perfect video!! Thank you for taking the time to explain each set up. Plan on an Ox Locker in the rear of my Jeep. But was stuck on what to do up front, until I watched your video!! Very informative indeed. When I'm ready to order, after this video, I'll purchase from you!

@Filthymotorsports

4 жыл бұрын

So glad to hear it, thank you! The OX locker is an excellent choice for a Jeep!

Great Video! I sent an Email question to Ben. Excellent explanations. Almost like going back to trade school. Air Lockers where just coming on the scene but in the farm tractors we have had them for years at that point. The rest were being used in automotive applications

I stumbled into this video, and am very impressed with this gentleman's ability to clearly explain this subject for 30 minutes. I've subscribed without yet knowing what else the channel contains.

@Filthymotorsports

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

He most definitely made a complicated topic very simple to understand while being extremely comprehensive.

@Filthymotorsports

3 жыл бұрын

What a great compliment, thank you!

@AC-db2wx

3 жыл бұрын

I came here to say the same thing. Trying to figure out what will suit my 4runner's needs most, and before watching this I knew the basic principle of how diffs work and what a locker does, but still found it confusing. This guy was clear, concise, and easy to understand, and really helped me gain a better comprehension of how all these different diffs and lockers all actually work. Visually seeing him manipulate the physical pieces was incredibly helpful as well. Tons of value in this video for someone eager to learn more! 👏

Very thorough, thanks for sharing your knowledge!

This is a really incredible video. One of the best I have seen on KZread for any subject. I just want to add that we have front/rear ARB lockers with 110K miles on them, and zero issues except for a melted plastic air line that was replaced with a stainless steel line. No leaks, no icing, etc. We can air up our 2 gallon ViAir tank (110PSI) and the ARB compressor won't trip (90PSI) for ~6 days. With front and rear locker *engaged*, and the Jeep parked, the compressor won't trip until ~3 days. Without the ViAir tank (we have a shut-off valve on the supply hose), the ARB's tiny manifold/tank will hold pressure for over a day before the compressor trips, and about 12 hours with the lockers engaged while parked. Note that we don't typically leave the tank aired up due to condensation and such. Anyway, thanks again for the awesome video.

@Filthymotorsports

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the feedback!

This is the best video I have ever seen that describes every type of differential completely. It may be long but extremely well done and worth every minute to watch. Thank you for taking the time to do this. It had just the right amount of detail about each type to make them easy to understand but not confusing. Very well done.

@Filthymotorsports

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

An excellent presentation! Using ARB lockers in my Ibex, but fascinating to see how the other variants work. Hope you have a good 2018.

now thats a video I am looking for.. GOOD JOB

@Filthymotorsports

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Well done, informative vid. I like the 'real world' addition of the welded spiders. In 50+ years, I have never seen anyone who makes money selling aftermarket parts be as real as that. If I was still building toys that break parts, you'd have my biz. Good on ya'

@Filthymotorsports

4 жыл бұрын

So glad to hear it, thank you for that! Cheers!

@deeeeeeps

Жыл бұрын

I welded my buddies rear end in his chev 1500 that lasted about 2 months before his gears were shot. I also welded my Jeep Grand cherokee axel that lasted about a month before it blew up going down the highway. It was super fun though!

I wouldn't consider it too long at all. Without doubt the best video on the topic I've ever had the privilege to watch. Thank you.

@Filthymotorsports

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! So glad to hear that!

This guy does an excellent job explaining diffs in.a very clear and practical way Great job.

This is the best explanation on the tube. Gracias.

@Filthymotorsports

7 жыл бұрын

So glad you think so, thanks!

@lm0315

7 жыл бұрын

Agreed 1000% Excellent video!

@PDXDrumr

7 жыл бұрын

I have to agree, I had very little idea when I started looking for explanations, and this vid led me to choose the type.

@montananorton8668

7 жыл бұрын

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@patrickschliesing1294

7 жыл бұрын

Much agreed - very well put together video, didn't mind the 29 minute length one bit. I'd really like to see a video of vehicles out on a slippery hill demonstrating as many of these as possible, especially open vs torsen vs one of the selectable lockers vs detroit vs spool.

Thanks, that was the best explanation I've heard.

This explanation was utterly FANTASTIC!!! Clearly explained and easy to understand. VERY well done!

@Filthymotorsports

3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear! Thank you!

Clear, informative, unpretentious and very helpful. Top notch. Thanks..

Great VID. We have started showing this to our clients so they understand what they are getting when they buy a locker. Mike Walsman JeepFix West Jordan, UT

@Filthymotorsports

6 жыл бұрын

That's not the first time we've heard that from dealers and shops, so glad to hear we can help!

OUTSTANDING PRESENTATION BEN! SUBSCRIBED! THANKS!

@Filthymotorsports

7 жыл бұрын

Glad you like it! Cheers!

@MrHellfinger

7 жыл бұрын

Agreed, Don. Subscribed here as well. Bravo Filthy Motorsports. Best presentation I've seen and I will return to reference this in the future as well.

Wow. Where was this video back about 26 years ago when I was a budding car buff trying to learn out of magazines!?🤣 Very very nicely done👍

I knew very little about diff's before this vid. Great detail without being long winded and the practical demonstration helped to bring it home.

@Filthymotorsports

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, so glad to hear it!

Great info mate, cheers. Wish I had found this before I suffered through hours of contradictory videos. Subscribed.

@Filthymotorsports

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

Love my Detroit Lockered Dana 60, it's got my old 3/4 ton 2wd in and out of places where open diff 4wd fear to tread. Decent street manners too.

Amazingly informative video that covers a really needed explanation on a topic that not so many covered so well!

@Filthymotorsports

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Ben, I cannot begin to tell you what a benefit your videos have been to me as I roll up my sleeves and take on the restoration and modification of my '76 Ford Bronco. Your manner is clear, concise, logical and very easy to follow. You make a potentially intimidating amount of information easily understood. HUGE thanks to you for that! Now, a request for some advice: Both my mechanic and his parts supplier have been recommending to me that I install the Yukon Zip air lockers instead of the ARBs which I had initially requested. My choice of ARBs was based on what I sensed was a general consensus (from browsing the many boards available on the web, and not insignificantly your own stated preference) that ARBs were the superior product. My mechanic has installed the Yukons in quite a number of Bronco builds (his specialty), and his parts supplier makes the argument that in addition to the cost savings of Yukons over ARBs, they've seen far fewer issues over the last number of years with the Yukons coming back after installations than they have with ARBs. Also, apparently the warranty on the Yukons beat out ARB substantially (though one could rightfully argue that a superior warranty is completely worthless miles away from the road following a catastrophic failure). I respect my mechanic and his experience, and I am a little apprehensive of taking the parts suppliers advice due to his obvious bias as a Yukon dealer (he can get the ARBs, but does not generally carry them). So, my question to you: if you were me, how hard would you fight and how much push back would you give on this issue? Is the internal composite cage a significantly weak link in the system to be of concern? You've been reassuring in the video regarding both products, gently stating your preference for the ARB. And I'll take it for granted that my mechanic will be attentive during the installation to be sure it is done properly and competently. I am a relative neophyte, and to me there is value in establishing my trust in my mechanic (which I generally have), it's just that an air locker is a substantial expense and a really difficult part to swap out. Just looking for your 2 cents. Again, many thanks!

The best locker/diff information video I have seen.

@Filthymotorsports

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

this is by far the best explanation on the plant!! thanks .

@Filthymotorsports

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

This has got to be the most thorough explanation of difflocking options. Really helpful

@Filthymotorsports

6 жыл бұрын

Happy to hear it!

The best and most thorough explanation I've seen

great explanations... brilliant

@Filthymotorsports

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I'll have to check out your channel when I have time, we work with many customers in Australia!

@DadDrummer75

6 жыл бұрын

Their channel is amazing!!

I literally have probably only taken the time to leave one or two comments on a video in my entire 10+ year KZread career, and after being glued to this video from start to finish, I feel compelled to offer my sincerest gratitude for this thoroughly comprehensive overview. If only you had a tutorial for any/everything anyone ever wanted to learn about, would probably be the biggest lifehack of all time.

@Filthymotorsports

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, I'm so glad to hear it and thank you for posting!!

Best video and explanation of differentials that I've seen yet!

To clear up some common misconceptions about differentials (also found in this video, to some extend): An open differential always splits the torque of the input shaft 50/50 between the output shafts. A Torsen (TorSen = Torque Sensing) differential never locks up. It changes the TBR (torque bias ratio) from 1:1 (open differential) to something else. F.e. a torsen differential with a TBR of 3:1 will output 3 times the torque of the faster wheel on the slower spinning wheel. That's why torsen differentials aren't great in really bad conditions. If one wheel slips on a really slippery surface like ice or hangs in the air, the torque it takes to spin it is nearly 0. Meaning the other output will be driven with 3 x 0 = 0. Clutch pack based LSD overcome this problem with pretensioning, which provides a given torque differential that has to be overcome before it allows slip.

@Filthymotorsports

5 жыл бұрын

1. Open differential is 50/50 only on high traction surfaces. 2. While the TrueTrac does not mechanically lock, when enough torque applied to it and given enough resistance to "seize up", it will create enough friction that both axle shafts will turn together as if in a spool, although, in the real world this may only be for a fraction of a second.

@VVENDINGEN

5 жыл бұрын

​@@Filthymotorsports1. "Open differential is 50/50 only on high traction surfaces." That is not true. An open differential always "applies" the same torque on both outputs, disregarding minor differences caused by friction in the differential. That is exactly why an open differential delivers poor performance on low traction surfaces, since the torque is dependent of the resistance of the wheels. When one wheel slips, the torque needed to drive it is close to 0, meaning the torque delivered to the other wheel also is close to 0 (and for that matter, the torque output by the engine being close to 0 in that situation as well.) That's also the reason why you need a rolling road/dyno to measure the power/torque output of an engine, and can't measure it just standing still and stomping the gas. 2. A Torsen style differential can of course spin both outputs at the same rate, if the faster spinning output is generating a lot of torque. What you discribe usually happens when the vehicle isn't moving and power is applied very rapidly. The inertia in the drivetrain will generate a lot of torque in the system for a very short moment, and therefore deliver a higher output (depending on the TBR of the differential) on the slower turning wheel. But as soon as the faster output is turning and slipping, the torque drops again. One way to counter that lack of torque biasing in very low friction situations with a Torsen differential is applying the brakes. The braking force will increase the torque needed to turn the faster spinning wheel, and therefore increase the torque delivered to the other wheel.

@davidjohnson-iw6vj

2 жыл бұрын

What posi unit do you recommend for street cruising? In other words "for the streets"

Excellent description of the Eaton Truetrac. I agree, it is a brilliant mechanical design. It’s worth noting that they can make a “pop" or "boom" when unlocking...especially on dry pavement in a tight turn. I thought I broke something the first time I heard it.

@michaelrichardson5505

9 ай бұрын

MAAAAAAAAAAAAAN YOU'RE MY HERO! I Have a truetrack in my 06 silverado. Made a uturn with wsy too much wood in the back and swore i broke my rear end when i heard that bang. Called the shop that did the install & they acted like i didnt know what i was talking about. Nice to hear from someone else thats dealt with this issue.

@hawkie333

9 ай бұрын

@@michaelrichardson5505 Glad I could "help"! It scared the hell out of me the first time it happened. It doesn’t happen often with normal driving but I’m sure a u-turn would do it.

I've seen several videos on this subject, this is by far the best of all, thank you very much for sharing, I took the liberty of sharing it on my group page... hope you don't mind.

@Filthymotorsports

5 жыл бұрын

Very happy to hear that, and thank you for sharing!

I just learned a whole bunch. Clear, concise and informative as all get out. Thanks for posting this.

@Filthymotorsports

5 жыл бұрын

So glad to hear it, thank you!

Great video 6 years later thanks.

Just reached 200,000 views! Thank you all for the support and your feedback! We have more videos like this coming out soon so make sure to subscribe to our channel. Cheers!

@CanalProjetoPiloto

6 жыл бұрын

This a very helpfull for offroaders like me! I'm from Brazil and here is difficult to chose the best solution, because it's no easy to have all options at hand before the purchase. I'm on my way to get a Eaton e-locker!

@Filthymotorsports

6 жыл бұрын

So glad to hear it, great choice!

@darrellcoy

6 жыл бұрын

Miata's are famous for Torsen diffs. I had a 2000 SE with 180k miles that would squall both rears off the line at autocross events for 2 plus years. still worked great when I sold it

Actually I have trained my dog to engage and disengage my Ox locker on command. He is also a good navigator unless he loses concentration if he spots a pretty bitch on the trail. Seriously though, this is by far the best analysis video of the different forms of differentials that I have ever watched. Good job.

@Filthymotorsports

5 жыл бұрын

Haha! Thanks!

At last, someone who knows what they’re talking about and presents it in a way that’s easy to understand. Brilliant!

@Filthymotorsports

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words!

All the information required with nothing left out 👍 thanks mate. Great display too btw. Mega informative

Great vid. I’m just confused now, didn’t know that exist so many diffs any lockers for my old 98 Hilux 🤨

You are the greatest explainer ever! I want to ask you how everything works!

@Filthymotorsports

7 жыл бұрын

Oh stop, you're making me blush!

Wow, thanks for making a great, informative video. Your channel deserves more subs!

Hands down the best video anywhere explaining the different types of differentials and how they function!!!!!!!!!

@Filthymotorsports

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

The OX can be locked by air, electric, mechanical, or the drive away lock. That's four options while being just as tough and costing less than an ARB.

@Filthymotorsports

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@H4KD11

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but like no one in australia has a compatible car

I think a Candy Machine Maker invented the True Trac idea.. Being the owner of Walter Trucks . The Detroit Locker Detroit True Tack I think they have been bought out is why the name has changed over the years.. I had one in the rear axle of a Tandem axle Truck .. It helped not to get stuck but was a real pain in the road.. You have to let off on the gas pedal to get it to unlock not so good when you are pulling a loader on a trailer up a steep drive and pulling into traffic and turning .. With a Detroit Locker only the wheel on the out side of the turn breaks loose and free wheels.. thus if you are under power it won't disengage which would cause the front wheels of my truck to slide sideways while turning ..

@Filthymotorsports

6 жыл бұрын

Excellent feedback, thank you!

@mikeskidmore6754

5 жыл бұрын

@@Filthymotorsports Yes the only way a Detroit Locker will work is the out side wheel in a turn will ratchet or free wheel. With a big heavy truck Eaton 34,000 # tandem with 18 1?2 ring gears.. the only way I could get the truck to turn is to let off on the gas so it can unlock.. My Problem was I was pulling a trailer with 7,000 pounds of tongue weight which was way too much should have been about 3,000# 23,000 # loader 7,500# trailer

That was the most clearly explained definition of differential types I have ever heard, and I have been rebuilding rears, trans & engines since 1976! Well Done my Man!!!

@Filthymotorsports

3 жыл бұрын

So glad to hear that, thank you!

One of the most informative videos in locking differentials. Congratulations excellent job.

@Filthymotorsports

3 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated!

One Ox manual locker, please.

@WilliamEllison

4 жыл бұрын

One Ox manual in rear and true track in front please.

@randomthoughts1001

4 жыл бұрын

@@WilliamEllison I'm think this combo for my 98 XJ 🤔

@aplchnmtngoat3800

4 жыл бұрын

@@WilliamEllison I'm installing this exact setup now. I'm hoping it's a great combination for on and off road performance.

@redsite001

4 жыл бұрын

Ox locker front and back!

By far the best detailed, unbiased differential explanations I've seen. I was already leaning toward the Eaton True Trac's front and rear in my street and trail 2000 XJ, this presentation confirmed that for me. Thank you for doing such a great job!

@Filthymotorsports

5 жыл бұрын

So glad to hear it, you are very welcome!

@V8AmericanMuscleCar

Жыл бұрын

Did you get them? I will most likely get a front and rear Truetrac for my XJ so I'm curious...

@chrisconley8105

Жыл бұрын

@@V8AmericanMuscleCar Half way there. I have a high pinion Dana 30 that I had 4.10's and True Trac installed in and am doing the same for the Chrysler 8 1/4.

Thankyou for the explanations across the range and the type of application that is best suited. Excellent job.

@Filthymotorsports

3 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome, thank you for watching!

The Harrop/Eaton lockers (at least for the 80 series land cruiser) no longer disconnect between front and rear.

@Filthymotorsports

6 жыл бұрын

Thank for the info, do you have any more info on this or a link?

@AlloffroadAu

6 жыл бұрын

what makes you say that? They now use a ramp/pin design which works with same principle as ramp and ball bearing and still disengage and re-engage kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y6KNvNFmXZq-mJc.html

Yes this video is long , but well worth the time spent.

@Filthymotorsports

5 жыл бұрын

So glad to hear that, thank you for watching!

Stellar video! Thanks much. Tell people without a limited slip or some kind of mechanism like a torsen you really just have one wheel drive.

...WOW!!!!! THANK YOU, BEN, VERY MUCH, FOR YOUR EXCELLENT EXPLANATION, AND DEMONSTRATION, OF THESE VITAL "DIFFERENTIAL" MECHANISMS!!

Dang that ox locker is awesome. I just put in a Eaton e locker though.

@Filthymotorsports

Жыл бұрын

Both are great in their own way, but the OX locker is very impressive.

My dad has a 2005 Silverado 2500 HD with G80 and it has 200k with no issues and still locks up fine.

Probably the most rational and clearest definition and explanation of how these things work. I'm not a mechanic but I now I understand

@Filthymotorsports

4 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad to hear that, that means a lot, thank you!

I've watched many videos on this subject, this is by far the best. You absolutely know what you are talking about, thank you!

@Filthymotorsports

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Best video I've seen. Question for you about the torsen. My application is endurance road racing on tracks like Sonoma. I understand that when you are going around a corner with no throttle, the torsen allows the wheels to spin at different speeds. My question is, if I begin to throttle in the corner, will the torsen continue to allow the wheels to spin at different speed, or will it effectively become a locked dif. I have used a friction LSD and experienced significant single wheel spin exiting corners even after replacing the clutches. I have also used a Mini Spool (because I don't trust the bearings in a c-clip eliminator kit to last an endurance race with a full spool). I have much better grip and acceleration out of the corner with the mini spool, but experience significant understeer and increase in front tire wear as a result of the rear tires wanting to continue in a straight line. FYI, this car never sees public streets. Thanks again for the great video.

@Filthymotorsports

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for question, glad you liked the video! The TrueTrac is used a lot in road racing. On a high traction surface the power always goes to both tires while allowing them to turn at different speeds within a fixed ratio. I had a chance to race a Miata equipped with a Torsen earlier this year on a race track and it was very impressive and extremely predictable. The few times I pushed too hard and got sideways it was completely controlled and very easy to straighten back up. There was also no understeer or oversteer from it. Hope that helps!

@lenwhite9901

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the response and feedback. I'll be talking to the boss about spending the $500 to put this in.

HOLD IT! At 4:09 - the small clutch pack. "Very similar to what you would find in a MANUAL transmission..." I'm certain you intended to say AUTOMATIC transmission. OK. Carry on. :-) Good job overall. I remember the Eureka moment I had in 9th grade when I had a differential cutaway I could play with and finally see it for myself. It's very difficult to comprehend without one in your hands.

@Filthymotorsports

5 жыл бұрын

The reference was to the clutch used to shift a manual transmission but of course automatic transmissions have internal clutches as well. Cheers!

By far the most comprehensive and clear explanation on lockers. I have not mechanic experience and understood all. Great Job. Tks

@Filthymotorsports

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

Wow! Very informative. Best description of all the lockers in one place I have ever seen. Now I have to choose between the ARB or Ox Locker.

@Filthymotorsports

4 жыл бұрын

So glad to hear it and those are two great locker options!

So I could run a spool on my front diff on a tacoma, since I have Manual warn hubs, which means I can disengage my axles from front diff at the wheels when I don’t need 4x4. Would this be a good cheaper option for me????

@Filthymotorsports

5 жыл бұрын

Technically yes, however, you would have to be very, very careful with how you engage and use 4x4. We like lunchbox lockers for the front because they have a "fuse" function to them to reduce stresses.

I want a torsen installed on my tacoma. . what kind of shop would you recommend?

@Filthymotorsports

7 жыл бұрын

My original response got lost when we changed over to a company channel but for those that have the same question, here it is again: With installation, you get what you pay for but one trick you can do is ask the shop to send you a photo of the final gear tooth pattern and backlash measurement or, better yet, ask if you can stop by so you can see it for yourself before they bolt the differential cover back on. Any shop that says no to this request should be avoided. Hope that helps!

I knew all this but i still watched the whole video... for the second time. This would be my go-to video if anyone needed to know. I liked how you know what you're talking about and didn't look like you were reading off a script, makes it more fluid and natural.

@Filthymotorsports

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

What else are you so knowledgeable about. You are a real pro at explaining. I'm so grateful for your ability to convey the info correctly and your effort to make all the info comprehensive. I almost want to become a technical mechanic. Thanks.

@Filthymotorsports

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you, that means a lot! I have many more videos in the works so make sure to subscribe. Cheers!

I’ve got Eaton E-lockers front and rear, and I wish I watched this video first before getting them because I would have went with Ox lockers front and rear instead.

@RegardlessRecords

3 жыл бұрын

How are the Eatons treating you? And which OX mechanism were you referring to when when you said this comment? The manual ones?

@StormbornJKU

3 жыл бұрын

@@RegardlessRecords the Eaton e lockers are working just fine. Haven’t had a single issue with them at all. My buddy has them as well and somehow he burned up the diode for his rear locker. It was literally on fire in it’s little case. He just swapped it out with a new one and it’s been fine. But they’ve worked every single time I’ve used them. Can’t complain really.

@StormbornJKU

3 жыл бұрын

@@RegardlessRecords and yes I was referring to the manual ones. Seems a lot more reliable to be able to just move a level and your locked, as well as the ability to use that tool in case the cable breaks so you have a backup to unblock. But like I said I haven’t had any issues with my Eaton e lockers. I made that comment before I actually had the ability to use them. Now that I have I don’t know if I’d switch, just because there haven’t been any issues with them.

@RegardlessRecords

3 жыл бұрын

@@StormbornJKU thank for the reply. I figured you were talking about the manual ones. Watching this video it does seem like something crazy might happen with the air or the electric ones. Then I was thinking to myself well a car has a lot of electronic components that last a life time so i figured I'd ask how you are liking them so I can figure out what set up im leaning towards. Thanks for the reply.

Wish someone made a 35 spline (detroit) locker for a 12 bolt. I have a spool now for drag racing and it works but it's pretty hard on parts given the two 180 degree turns at my drag strip.

This has to be the best comparo i have seen on lockers. I really appreciate the information.

@Filthymotorsports

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

I know it's already been said, but WOOWOOOWWWWEEE!! This was the most thorough, complicatedly simple description of THE DIFFERENTIAL and DIFFERENTIAL LOCKERS, that I have seen!! AWESOME JOB!! Thank you very much!!

@Filthymotorsports

5 жыл бұрын

Wow, thank you so much for the high praise!!