Apparently, people don't like Slayer now
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Day 6 of Slayer! Any other Slayer players notice that nobody seems to wanna run the set with you? Why is that? We play more high level Slayer games and talk a bit about why people are not trying to fight Slayer anymore...
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Arc System Works (Arcsys) has recently made Guilty Gear Strive, the latest entry in the Guilty Gear franchise! This fighting game is heralded for its use of Rollback Netcode, included on all platforms Playstation 4 (PS4), Playstation 5 (PS5), and PC (Steam). Recently Arcsys has released it's latest season pass character, A.B.A!
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Now that the honey moon phase for slayer is over GG players are now returning to their regularly scheduled "hating every character that isn't their main"
@Flubbadon
22 күн бұрын
They’ll hate their mains too when they play against them.
@JaboodyEnthusiast
16 күн бұрын
I just got back to playing online games after a 1.5 year hiatus and I now appreciate playing every character and getting my butt kicked. Even fighting axel as nago is fun for me now. I'm just glad to be playing again 😂
@windwakerx2723
16 күн бұрын
Nah I don't hate every character, just the OP ones (The ones that beat me)
As soon as I realized you can grab Slayer out of his dandy step the matchup becomes so much easier
@beansoclock8748
22 күн бұрын
see you are actually learning the match up instead of just going on twitter and complaining about a mistake that you made
@anannoyingweeb359
22 күн бұрын
@@beansoclock8748 wait but isnt complayining on twitter make you better than pros?
@Snoozy570
21 күн бұрын
Eh… I play slayer and that’s easier said than done
@oatmeal5672
20 күн бұрын
I play slayer, and this only works if they never decide to do h Dandy followup or they keep cancelling it from the wrong normals
@jotarojoestar5123
19 күн бұрын
"just grab potemkin out of hammerfall lol, it's so easy"
everyone wanted slayer we tried to warn them
this is what happens when u put a strive character in strive
People that wanted Slayer in the game when they get Slayer in the game:
@solairefan5420
22 күн бұрын
Yeah lmao "The damage is too high" What did you expect?
@Flubbadon
21 күн бұрын
I wanted Slayer in the game and I couldn’t be happier.
I have a limit of 10 games per day for slayer. I can fight them, but i get tired of EVERYONE playing only slayer. Gets very boring and most slayers play way too similar.
11:26 that mappa hunch in sync with jack a dandy increased my life span by a couples years
@f7y6
22 күн бұрын
First song I got fishing, it's never changing again lmao
Did people ever 'like' Slayer? In +R and Xrd his defining feature was ToDs and being invincible on every attack. Best not to confuse "hype" for "actual enjoyment". We all knew exactly what we were getting in for when he was requested.
@kip6417
21 күн бұрын
A lot of people genuinely liked slayer and I'm so happy he's here
@cmysharingan
20 күн бұрын
I've been waiting for Slayer since the Strive released, and I reinstalled the game, because of this character. Just, because Chun-Li is busted in 3rd Strike doesn't mean she should be that way in every game; what are you even saying dude ?
@jotarojoestar5123
19 күн бұрын
keep in mind he was a harder character to play and was usually a mid tier character
They hate on the Dandy King
@PsychicJaguar19
22 күн бұрын
A fellow dandy enjoyer?
@just_2swift
22 күн бұрын
@@PsychicJaguar19 Yes! I love slayer. Zato slayer and venom are my favorite guilty characters
@thrakatak2645
17 күн бұрын
Mankind knew that they could not change Slayer. So instead of reflecting themselves, They blamed the dandy.
Seeing that title makes me realize Slayer truly encapsulates guilty gear and thats why he is hated.
10:30 had me dying.
@neoyaku
22 күн бұрын
Same 😂
Instead of reflecting on themselves and learning the matchup, they are blaming the beasts
@iceink
22 күн бұрын
Everyone acts like their main is entitled to be busted when they are because it's strive, but you can only do this to a certain extent before the majority is going to rule you out. If the dodge rate for a particular character is starting to climb, that's objective data that has nothing to do with player sentiment. It's just a fact that you can consider.
@satorrotas93
22 күн бұрын
Slayer just simply does too much damage. If they toned him down it would be fine.
@CantHandleThis6
22 күн бұрын
@@iceinkI mean Slayer doesn't seem *that* strong. He's just annoying and tricky. The biggest upside to him is absurd damage and making your opponent scared. Once they're scared they make stupid decisions which they get hurt for. He's definitely strong but he hasn't done anything egregious from what I've seen
@Daniel-bu6hx
22 күн бұрын
@@CantHandleThis6If you make ONE mistake against slayer you get comboed by 60% of your health
@CantHandleThis6
22 күн бұрын
@@Daniel-bu6hx If you make a mistake against Sol he will literally delete you
I swear if I know anything about Guilty gear's community is that once a new character releases at first is like "OMG THEY ADDED X CHARACTER BACK IM SO EXITED" and then one week later "THIS CHARACTER IS BROKEN, I ONLY PLAY FAIR AND BALANCED CHARACTERS THAT REQUIRE SKILL WHILE PEOPLE WIN WITH THE NEW CRUTCH CHARACTER" and its always like that
I don’t like Slayer. His kit’s fine but he just deals too much damage, but that’s the general theme in Strive ig. I just feel like Slayer deals too much damage too easily, so even if I guess correctly and answer correctly 14 times in the match, if I guess incorrectly two times I just die.
@AubergineMans
20 күн бұрын
Isn't that the same with almost all the characters? Like you guess wrong and they can convert that to long damaging combo strings?
@MyNameIsIisan
19 күн бұрын
@@AubergineMans “…but that’s the general theme in Strive ig.”
@normieguy3803
18 күн бұрын
@@AubergineMans quite a lot yh, but then again you also have your i-no, bridget, millia, chaos, etc. who don't do that much damage (compared to the others, ofc haha) but instead they set up situations that skew the risk-reward so hard in their favour they can usually keep rolling. And then you also have the characters like axl, testament, johnny etc. who (are meant to) win neutral more often, but get less reward. Damage is very high across the board in strive, but slayer is definitely one of the characters that will fucking detonate you if you get touched by him lol. Personally idm his damage, and I think he's fine overall, but I will admit that when i'm playing against him for the 78th time this week, I do sometimes feel the irrational anger of "why the fuck does he just have the ignorant miracle cure to all situations: mappa hunch", but at least I let myself cool off instead of taking to twitter to complain about how he's "broken" lol. He can be frustrating to fight when you play dozens of sets against dozens of slayers in a row all playing near-identically, but he's not broken or unfair, and I don't even really dislike him, I think he's cool, I just see him way too much xD
Slayer is the only character in Guilty gear Strive who’s matchup win rates are all mostly green. I personally think he’s a little obnoxious but it’s possible to beat him but I can see why many would rather one and done 😂
@mattsandvig7868
22 күн бұрын
I think we can expect that data to even out eventually. It’s a lot easier to learn how to win with Slayer than it is to learn how to beat him, probably more than any other character in the game atm. That will skew matchup data hard.
@pancakes7483
22 күн бұрын
I love playing him but fighting him is annoying bc one simple mistake and it's ggs shake my hand
slayer is just wrong but not for the reasons people think, he probably has the best neutral skip in the game (kmappa), full screen punish super, built in crossupps and almost always plus or almost neutral moves on block , the damage is fine but it becomes frustrating the moment he can just mix you over and over again with moves that can be special canceled into p/k mappa without any reliable way to punish him
@normieguy3803
18 күн бұрын
I think he's cool overall, but when I play against dozens of slayers in a row all playing almost identically, I do begin to get frustrated at the cure-all to neutral in mappa hunch haha
People also think airtight autopilot 30 second uninterruptable offense on a "low damage, mid range control character" is fine because the execution is hard so they can hold this
@Phosphophyllite21
22 күн бұрын
"Airtight, autopilot 30 second uninterruptable offense" does not exist in this game. It was *theoretically* possible for Asuka at one point, but even then it wasn't practical or worthwhile and required the use of tech that even the best Asuka players do not use consistently, let alone loop.
@f7y6
22 күн бұрын
@Phosphophyllite21 chaos has entered the chat
@captaincookie5042
22 күн бұрын
@@Phosphophyllite21me when jacko
Lordknight:😶
Hes way to easy for his damage you dont even have to do actual combos to do 60 percent
I don't think its "oh slayers OP" i think its more "we've been fighting him for like 3 weeks in a row"
@Eis7
22 күн бұрын
Well that's because he's new lol and a fan favorite
@user-fe5bm6ot8o
22 күн бұрын
If you go online, it’s an endless cesspool of people bitching that is his OP. New era of players never want to learn the matchup
@malcolmvalentine1360
22 күн бұрын
@user-fe5bm6ot8o The old era didn't want to learn it either. They just didn't have the means to broadcast that thought process in top of there less players in general
@devonedwards1364
21 күн бұрын
@@malcolmvalentine1360every old era game had their testament or chun lee so there was no need to voice your opinions when all you had to do was learn the best characters
@z1u512
21 күн бұрын
Sf6 with akuma too 💀
5:26 what song is this???
@wwa_minuet
22 күн бұрын
drunkard does make wise remarks from guilty gear isuka
As an A.B.A. main this character makes me cry
@Fitsz
20 күн бұрын
as an aba main, he ain't that bad to fight (especially compared to axl)
For me, it isn't about the damage, it's how much he quickly gains tension bar. While he's not as hard as one thinks to find holes in his play, I'm more miffed at how easy he is to pilot when in previous games he's a bit more technical, imo. For how much damage he does and how much meter he gains. And that complaint is more targeted to how Strive is being handled.
Well duh. If you check puddle farm matchup charts for the top 1000 players he doesn't have a single matchup below a 60% winrate right now lol. (it drops significantly if you look at the porportion chart and then shoots all the way back up if you look at the top 100)
8:11 that was crazy defense.
I think they need to tone down his damage first, and foremost for sure. He is doing way too much work off of simple stuff that shouldnt be that beneficial; and thats coming from a Slayer main
Kizzie was playing block simulator against that axl for almost a minute
@Jk_369t
22 күн бұрын
Slayer players nightmare
@Miniom56785
22 күн бұрын
@@Jk_369t slayer players when no BDC
Never did
I've been waiting for slayer to come back since forever, and I'm so fuckin happy that i can play my boy again. If only people would fight me more than once when I try to play him, I'm not even good at strive and it isn't helping me learn much when everyone tries to dodge playing me mostly
He’s just a well designed character. If you play a character that can contest his neutral, you clearly see the holes in his gameplay. In the neutral, all there is to watch out for is yolo mappa or Kara Dandy-Jump and both options are easy to deal with even if they mix in their approach.
Nobody like slayer in xrd, because he was fucking cringe. What did they think was gonna happen in strive, which has notoriously given new characters really annoying and oppressive move sets? Slayer in xrd was literally strive- before strive.
Slayer is a fu-ahh character. Downtune this dandy gentlemen for his players are getting carried incredibly hard
@spideysquestionablyusedcha5069
22 күн бұрын
Tbh if they just hit K mappa hunch and super mappa hunch I think they'll fix like half of the character's problems
Day 1 it was fun playing him, day 2 my R-code was "Eme Slayer Hater" and I had the 100 defeated slayers badge I kid you not.
i mean they're kinda real for that
@firetoofan5555
20 күн бұрын
Nah, Slayer always likes that. But a good challenge in the old game with huge damage reward. Strive design-wise Slayer should be easy for marketing purposes. We are definitely going to see some damage nerf and the issue will be resolved 🙃
Had a Faust RQ on me after I burst baited him for the set. He instantly hit the chat with “typical slayer gameplay” and left the lobby lol Ppl really be blaming a character after simply getting outplayed
@thrakatak2645
17 күн бұрын
People really do be blaming the beasts.
Slayer the great filter
There a single guilty gear character who isn't hated?
@thrakatak2645
17 күн бұрын
Nope. The only possible exceptions are Izuna, Paradigm and valentine, because only 5 people in the world actually played overture.
Rn, I am not into this game, but seeing you cook Slayer as well people meltdown in the comments section. With Classic Arc system release pay to win character something shouldn't be missed.
I hope that when GG releases slayer one of these games he gets to fight at full potential and he’s just the most braindead zoner like even Happy Chaos players are jealous.
I've only seen people in YT comments asking for slayer nerfs, haven't seen any pro/high level players complaining about him, that says a lot.
@yahshuaquinonez8366
22 күн бұрын
So why do I have to learn everything on slayer just to have a chance especially me when I like low health characters
@beexxxy
22 күн бұрын
apparently, everyone who play this game is pro/high level players. very dandy, sir.
@PsychicJaguar19
22 күн бұрын
@@yahshuaquinonez8366 Because that's how fighting games work. You want to know how to beat a character you have to know how they work, I'm really not sure how else to explain it to you. This applies in every fighting game.
@bakatako7677
22 күн бұрын
I mean. Slayer’s worst matchup rn is 50% against himself for the top 1000 players. The next one is 59% against aba.
@generalkenobi9524
22 күн бұрын
To me it just seems like slayer is very easy to play in comparison to some of the other characters since he can severely punish a mistake with only a very simple combo, so people that do make those sorts of mistakes at lower levels are punished by slayer heavily, something that not many players at that level could do because it would require more elaborate combos from other characters. Not to say that there aren't any other characters that have such high damage or easy combos, but with pot or nago they at least have some downsides which kinda balance it at that skill level
Slayer is annoying but not my biggest problem with this patch, Leo and goldlewis, on the other hand...
Imagine taking hours upon hours to learn any other character just to die to 3 pile bunkers by someone who has only played for 10 minutes. That is the entirety of the slayer experience. Until they tune his damage down, that's how it's gonna be.
Delet Slager PLs
slayer is just plain frustrating to play agaisnt you cant blame them for not wanting to play
@sevenbike1182
22 күн бұрын
You sure love throwing rocks from that glass house May
@Eis7
22 күн бұрын
The professional slayer hater😂
@sarperdogan6454
21 күн бұрын
Wait do you play Europe?
@MayGGST
21 күн бұрын
@@sarperdogan6454 yea
Honestly slayer annoys me but I don’t think he’s that good I’m just tired of everyone and their momma playing him
I currently don’t like slayer because he makes my healthbar disappear so fast that I’ve genuinely gotten confused by me losing a round just because i thought i had more health left. Like cool, I messed up once and where did my health go ? Nobody knows. Then again I play goldlewis so I guess this must be what my opponents feel like all the time. Maybe it’s a matchup thing maybe it’s a balance thing, at this point I don’t even know anymore
@user-fe5bm6ot8o
22 күн бұрын
He’s like this in every game.
@z1u512
21 күн бұрын
Goldlewis players feeling a speck of suffering axls have enduring thr9ughout their life
People don't like facing the broken character. Who knew?
It's always sad to see people leave because of your character. Once upon a time, I was trying out ramlethal and people would always one and done me, even though most of them beat my arse
@z1u512
21 күн бұрын
Sorry bruf but ramlethal is just watch paint dry the character, while also being infuriating as fuck for some characters
People liked slayer?
Kizzzy while playing a gorilla character as well defending a gorilla character- I'm not a fan of gorilla characters.
@firetoofan5555
20 күн бұрын
Omito straight up said Gorilla game.
I'm sorry but Slayer is just so fucking boring to fight against
@f7y6
22 күн бұрын
I mained hc waiting for slayer to drop for this game. Lemme tell you, this sentiment does nothing to us lmao
@esseubot
22 күн бұрын
@@f7y6 It's not supposed to do anything. I'm just sharing my two cents on why I don't really feel like dealing with Slayer sometimes. Also I would rather deal with HC 100% of the times over Slayer.
Slayer is cool but most of the roster ain’t cool or is just boring
@heracrossz7701
22 күн бұрын
That's very subjective
@Abigail-dv6yn
22 күн бұрын
@@heracrossz7701honestly, I think he's right, I think with every passing season, the character get more and more cool or interesting, making the older character obsolete or just plain boring to play. I think the older characters might need a little bit of a re-work, but nothing too crazy.
@guppysam
22 күн бұрын
@@Abigail-dv6ynhard disagree this seems super subjective cuz i think all the old cast holds up super well
@Bonemannes
22 күн бұрын
@@Abigail-dv6ynI have every single season pass and my most played characters are Sol and Anji. I think we're good here lad
@Abigail-dv6yn
22 күн бұрын
@@Bonemannes yeah, not all of the them are bad, Nago is struggling, Baiken doesn't seem to be doing too well either, Potemkin, Zato, Axl seems like a struggle character too, I feel like May is also a rare sight nowadays, but I might be wrong with all off this. I lowkey feel like the only reason why people still play these characters are because of character loyalty, I feel like the newer characters are just getting outclassed such as Nago, Slayer literally just does everything better than Nago, so it's like, why the hell would you play him when you can play Slayer and get more from him?