Apex 2015 - Leffen (Fox) Vs. PPMD (Marth) - Winners Finals - SSBM
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This is one of the greatest melee sets of all time.
@treehann
7 жыл бұрын
This and PP vs Armada are the ones I keep coming back to. Such an epic run for PPMD and I absolutely love how hyped up the crowd is, it gets me excited every time. Whether it's the screaming during this set or the "FALCOOOO" chant during PP Armada set 1... I love smash :D
@mrm64
4 жыл бұрын
@@treehann I always come back for PPMD's Shoryuken pop off here too lol XD
@darkkevindu6982
3 жыл бұрын
@@treehann Armada is better. Armada is the best. Armada is the GOAT.
@treehann
3 жыл бұрын
@@darkkevindu6982 cut the blue wire
@theonlybass8947
3 жыл бұрын
@@darkkevindu6982 there’s an argument to be made for Mang0 being the goat but alright
i love how theres so much tension at 4:05 that someone screams
@kongqianfu
7 жыл бұрын
that was my favorite part xD
@heavybassbooty4614
7 жыл бұрын
ur profile photo and that comment made my day lmao
@myjapanesejourney-6926
5 жыл бұрын
Yo is that the guy that voiced Diddy Kong.
Half a million views, damn, I miss PPMD.
@RemixSSBM
7 жыл бұрын
sad reacts only
@blazehawkz8760
7 жыл бұрын
Dapuffdaddy 69 it was a mix of people wanting to see Leffen get bodied and just PPMD himself.
@rashauncampbell2804
7 жыл бұрын
Dapuffdaddy 69 Ultra PP -INVADER ZIM REFERENCE
@Jv615
6 жыл бұрын
Almost 700k now :)
@wesleychalmers7648
5 жыл бұрын
Well, at least he's streaming again, for now.
RIP to whoever died at 3:06
@sabre389
8 жыл бұрын
+Sam Shiiv They person makes that noise is so many sets, sounds like a chimpanzee lol
@KoiandDragon
8 жыл бұрын
+Sam Shiiv This comment! 😂 You're killing me fam! 4:05 he comes back to life!
@desp119
8 жыл бұрын
+KoiandDragon Sounds like a fucking parrot
@smashbrospippop1931
8 жыл бұрын
It was michael jackson!!
@TheZeroTerra
7 жыл бұрын
Sam Shiiv Same. I had questions while watching this bro was screaming like he saw the fear of God
4:05 the screams express how everyone in the crowd felt haha. Whoever that person was, I love you.
@MrHitchslap
9 жыл бұрын
***** I know there's no way to prove it but that was actually me LOOL I had so much excitement cause it was my first national!
@daikumi
6 жыл бұрын
HingleMcCringleBerry26 that's cool
@JordanMSeverns
2 жыл бұрын
It was the same dude doing all the whistles and stuff
@Bread_Bug
Жыл бұрын
@@MrHitchslap you’re a legend
PPMD has to be my favorite melee player. The way he plays is just a sight to see. The man deals with health issues and depression and all these things and he can still show up after half a year of not and wreck house. Can't wait for him to return
TrunksMD has seen 20XX in the future and travels back in time to put a stop to it.
@Stig217
9 жыл бұрын
Interesting!
@ttripathy5664
6 жыл бұрын
Leffrieza attempting to beat TrunksMD after the disfunctional timeline where he beats manGoku, loses while putting up a fight.
PPMD's Marth is a thing of beauty.
@saiksaikatai594
8 жыл бұрын
+BrickerBlocky yeah! but less than m2k's marth
@EPICguy49
8 жыл бұрын
The differences really do show. PPMD does a lot better in the Peach and Falcon matchup with Marth and M2k is way better in the spacies matchup with Marth (Although he's getting better in the icies and peach matchup recently)
@7tales357
7 жыл бұрын
well whatever the difference, its really close
@nibnibster7301
7 жыл бұрын
he 4 stocked m2k's marth using his own, I know I'm 10 months late but tf?
@aeronine6977
7 жыл бұрын
*a thing of spam chaingrabs PP is such a good player and it just fucking pisses me off to see him play like a little bitch
How the hell does PPMD keep track of his own dash dance
@johnnycrash4892
5 жыл бұрын
I bet he doesn't even know.. he just FEELS it...
@SoftBreadSoftware
4 жыл бұрын
@@johnnycrash4892 Pretty much, when you do something for thousands, tens of thousands of hours, your instinct becomes more complex or nuanced than your language of systems etc. That's why explanations of footsies/dashdancing and other things are so esoteric and we just nail it down to "play a lot and you'll figure it out."
@t9t9t9t9t9
4 жыл бұрын
@@SoftBreadSoftware 10's of thousands of hours lol...
@SoftBreadSoftware
4 жыл бұрын
@@t9t9t9t9t9 Yes. Tens of thousands of hours. Playing the same game. That is why there is a massive gap between the above average and the masters. (In all avenues of life.)
@t9t9t9t9t9
4 жыл бұрын
@@SoftBreadSoftware you should check your numbers lol. i know people that have played the same game for 15+ years, and it's not in the "10's of thousands"... you're acting like people have 40,000 hours on a game, they dont lol. link one steam profile among the millions of users where someone has 30-40 thousand hours in a game, i'll wait.
10:20 is the fastest fast-fall wavedash ledge grab I've ever seen.
@jakelalala4077
9 жыл бұрын
that was ridiculous...
@ijuka
9 жыл бұрын
It actually was too slow by quite a bit. Leffen's forward B just was too low to grab the ledge.
@TWO_EZ
9 жыл бұрын
ijuka yes
@RuneskyProductions
9 жыл бұрын
I'm not trying to be a dick but I believe it was a dash dance to an incredibly quick backwards wavedash ledgegrab.
@toolong46
9 жыл бұрын
ijuka It was slower but not because fox was too low. Fox can't grab the edge until his side b animation is done. If leffen canceled the side b he may have grabbed it before marth. Fox was at the ideal height, its unfortunately due to the animation that marth grabbed it before.
In the audience somewhere, a bird is cheering for Leffen.
Pp with with the god tier product placement
@CecilioLanz
9 жыл бұрын
Cállese Komander. Vaya mejor a hacer corridos
@oscarosuna13
9 жыл бұрын
Vete al rancho komander e.e
@raulsaucedostuff
9 жыл бұрын
El Komander Que random con estos comentarios en este video jaja.
@richlb5357
9 жыл бұрын
Que no te habiamos dicho que te regreses a hacer corridos? Deja a Smash para despues
@alannamceachin8777
5 жыл бұрын
Dios mi
Look at 4:57 when PPMD up-air's Leffen on the top platform. It looks as if the lightsaber item materializes for a frame or two and then disappears. That's crazy.
I notice PPMD nods his head and has a "Thinker" moment right after he loses a stock. It's like he's acknowledging how he lost that stock and approving Leffen for the good play.
"showing my age" in smash is remembering 2006.
@TheShangryLlamas
8 жыл бұрын
that was ten years ago
@marychheng6506
8 жыл бұрын
nice observation sherlock
@lewissteward65
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheShangryLlamas 15 now
@TheShangryLlamas
3 жыл бұрын
@@lewissteward65 i have no idea why i made that original comment
19:33 such an iconic cut of their handshake. PP's reaction. I love it.
Come back ppmd ;_;
@comet8157
8 жыл бұрын
+Lethal Pichu He's gonna play at Genesis which is in like 8 days
@Kuating
8 жыл бұрын
+MEME_ REICH well
@nick7927
7 жыл бұрын
Sad Pinniped he still ain't back lul
@johnnycrash4892
5 жыл бұрын
:(
I love it when the crowd goes "ey!" When marth does an up throw xD
Considering how much PPMD was going through, this is a story of such triumph.
Just watch PPMD's marth move at 10:19 So damn fast
@BlueCrystal004
9 жыл бұрын
GxxJ It was pretty baller.
@BlueCrystal004
8 жыл бұрын
***** no
@kaufmanbob
8 жыл бұрын
Doesn't change PP's ungodly movement speed.
@PercyFowl
8 жыл бұрын
+Mackelroy McJohnstonson It was an edgehog. If PPMD had not grabbed edge, Leffen would have sweet-spotted the ledge because you can snap to ledge after illusion ends(unless you shorten).
@BlueCrystal004
8 жыл бұрын
Mackelroy McJohnstonson Noticed this too, but they still have a reason to freak out. It didn't win him the game, but it was a great play.
I will never get over Marth's death scream. It just always sounds funny. "WAAAAAAAAH!"
Somehow i get the feeling PPMD is sponsored by Monster... I dunno.
@smittyyagermanjenson2067
9 жыл бұрын
Energy drinks commonly sponsor competitive gamers, but I think Monster and EG are affiliated more than just PP and Monster. That's a good point tho
@williamgrand9724
9 жыл бұрын
He was holding the drink up for the camera and then taking a sip, that's usually what people sponsored by monster do, and its also on his jersey.
@yosarion420
9 жыл бұрын
he's just european.... he is a guy though
@twerkdatass5626
9 жыл бұрын
tizz mcgizz He isnt european dumbass. he lives in NC.
@BalboaBaggins
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know why people drink that piss.
I didn't know my dad was in the room with me while I was watching this and he basically heard me go, "PP, PP, PP, PP, PP, PP, PP" for 20 minutes.
Anyone else saw the post match interviews? Leffen was johnsing hard.
@djentlee9064
9 жыл бұрын
So what, everyone johns for mango etc does it even matter, it's a terrible overrused meme
@Linkale14
9 жыл бұрын
Djentlee I wouldn't call "Johns" a meme. It's more jargon at this point. It's basically just a word to replace excuses people make for losing. Yeah, everyone does it too a certain extent, but some more than others.
@xdairybastardx
9 жыл бұрын
Yall think because he was sick and shit that he was johnsing. A john is when you think you lost because of stupid shit like controller unplug, lag, its the games fault. him being sick can affect his gameplay, just like if PP lost he'd say it was him being jet-lagged and tired aswell. Get it right, things can affect how you play. You dont have to call johns just cause he was ill.
@JohnWittle
9 жыл бұрын
xdairybastardx Bro, if while I was playing a tournament game, my CONTROLLER CAME UNPLUGGED, i would john too
@xdairybastardx
9 жыл бұрын
John Wittle Right, because if it came actually unplugged, thats not a john, that's a legitimate reason to pause. Saying it slightly unplugged, re-plugging your controller after a loss, complaining about lag, your controller isnt working properly; all of these are johns. a john = a stupid excuse for your loss, an excuse outside the boundaries of reason.
Anyone notice how PPMD's combos are so smooth and fast when using Marth compared to other players who plays him so mechanically. :O mah fave player
PPMD wasn’t just the best Melee player. He IS the best Melee player. Maybe not so much in a skill set anymore, but definitely in an admiration kind of way. I don’t care if he hasn’t attended a major tournament in roughly 2 years and hasn’t placed well in the recent Nationals he has gone to. When this man was on point, nobody was stopping him. Coming from a region with no competitive smash influence in that of North Carolina, to dealing with the emotional baggage of depression, suicidal thoughts, and disapproval of parents, and finally all his health concerns which have continually worsened, to be able to win this tournament in which nobody thought he could do it is a thing of beauty. You can see him struggling at times during this set with missing follow ups, and relatively poor punishments. This set was a super close 5 game set, and it could’ve easily gone to Leffen. But as a personification for PPMD’s life, dealing with all his struggles, he still prevailed. I hope one day this man can come back. The beautiful game of Melee needs its most beautiful player.
@mikemccranie1092
5 жыл бұрын
well said!
@peashooter6628
5 жыл бұрын
He's still one of the only 3 players to win a tournament with all 5 gods in attendance. Something only Armada and Mango have done besides him.
@Pan_Z
5 жыл бұрын
@@peashooter6628 Hbox did it too at Battle of the FIve Gods
@solracv8528
4 жыл бұрын
Armada is the best melee player lol
@katiieeardley
4 жыл бұрын
@@solracv8528 Agreed... but if they both, idk, wanna come back and money-match for the title I'd be down to see them both play again ;(
3:08 All this years later, and this is still one of the dirtiest Marth dairs ever.
@aoflex
8 ай бұрын
Nasty af
@electromagneticlemon
3 ай бұрын
Iconic
I've watched this set so many times
1:19 you can see PPMD plan his next combo.
3:48 PPMD's reaction lol.
I watch this like every 3 weeks.
@pokemonshowdown45
7 жыл бұрын
Same..... I can't get over how graceful PPMD's Marth looks in this tournament. I really hope he comes back to melee. he is my favorite player and I want my Marth to be like his one day
@karmi8049
3 жыл бұрын
Again ?
Wow, what a great set to watch without volume!
10:31 Never thought I'd hear a crowd chant "pp, pp, pp!"
I am convinced that this is THE greatest set of all time.
@theblackgamer8103
7 жыл бұрын
naw
@kingphantomtv2425
7 жыл бұрын
Hax vs westballz super neoblous imo best set
@seanplaysmusic
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah that set was absolutely nuts.
@davezarairl
7 жыл бұрын
Maybe but moast 3 was the best
@Fieryvortex48
7 жыл бұрын
Doc kid, lol. Considering the story line, stakes, and quality of play at this tournament, this is arguably the greatest set of all time.
this is probably one of my top 5 favorite sets i've ever watched in melee, period. amazing play from both players. i really do aspire for my fox to have the mobility of leffen's one day; it's always incredible to watch him play when he's really on. ppmd played fantastically, though, so props to him. can't wait to see more of his marth (and hopefully his falco) later this year
Leffen was actually extremely close to winning
When it looked like two Swedes would come to the top and take the melee throne. A lone American from the south would come back from an early retirement to defend his nations honor. No one believed in him. But, silently he and his Marth would climb through the ranks defeating everyone in his path on his way back to the top. That man was PPMD, the tournament was APEX 2015. The movie writes itself. We miss you PP, and fondly remember the moments where you, with your unique style, were the best in the world!
5 years later...
Most watched melee set on KZread, also my favorite set of all time. We miss you pp
Does anyone know what GimR uses to record this at such a high quality. 60fps too. I want to know so I can stream Melee like this.
10:20 look closely, leffen just misses the edge.
@dawudrahman4779
7 жыл бұрын
Abel Teller yeah I noticed that too. And even though it's not an edge hog I think it's in a lot of "ramen noodle" videos as well.
I come back to watch the set that got me into melee often.
This was the greatest tourney of all time.
I still go back to watch this amazing set
Dang, PPMD is drawing in more viewers than mango vs hax from tbh4 (which is a set that started a well-known smash meme).
this marth is so calculated
At 18:57 we have a splice that results in Toph saying "Sweden vs. the U-now." Glitch in the recording? A very poor attempt to censor?
This is AMAZING, I've played this since it's been out and poured years of work into this. Fox and Marth are my Favourite characters so it's pretty kool watching people using them on this level. #INTENSE
10:25 - Shoutout to that drawing of Marth sipping a goblet of wine while Fox facepalms
i still comeback sometimes to see this match, one of the best ever!
18:23 Leffen: fuk mi dad-e PPMD: Just the tip baby
This was some of the most advanced neutral game ever.
I miss ppmd so much i wanna cry :'( more than that tho, his presence really completed tourneys like this. I sorely miss these super hype tournaments and sets
Every changed when the PP nation attacked...
Where was this play at Evo this year? Apex was so amazing and then I feel like Evo sort of fell short. Anyone else?
What a time this was 4 years ago. Our 5 Gods were active, Leffen was on the come up, villian (Leffen) vs Gods storyline, it was a great time.
This is only one out of three Leffen vs. PPMD sets on KZread I could find
shoutout to Toph on the solo commentary. very talented
@evadekiryu5060
Жыл бұрын
Yeah
@Zion122
10 ай бұрын
Don't do D1 like that.
@jtrtx
6 ай бұрын
@@Zion122he did himself like that, fym
@Zion122
6 ай бұрын
@@jtrtx The allegations were proven false, so it's not his fault he's being treated like this.
4 years ago, one of the greatest sets ever was played
I will never understand how people think it's necessary to overblow matches and call matches like this Leffen getting "rekt" by PPMD. Yes, he lost. But he lost 3-2. He put up a great fight and almost won even, last game last stock. It was a *great* match from *both* players. (And before I get responses about Leffen's trashtalk, I'm just talking about the match.)
@LongfellowLP
9 жыл бұрын
Every game was last stock too. This was a brilliant set.
@treehann
9 жыл бұрын
You're very right. The fact that it was so close is why this is my favorite set from Apex 2015.
@davjags
9 жыл бұрын
The reason Leffen gets "rekt" to most people (including myself) is because Leffen plays the "textbook" fox. Nothing crazy when It comes to combo's, just up airs, up smashes and just simple stuff. Not to say what he does is easy, but what he does is safe, and won't cause SDs or drop kills for overextending. But the other players combo him and it makes the other player look more stylish and fun. That's why people say he gets wrecked, because they see him get comboed like crazy, but he doesn't really do it back
@treehann
9 жыл бұрын
***** good point. I think Leffen's fox is interesting to watch, but for different reasons than other foxes. His style is pretty brutal and efficient and doesn't rely on crazy lead-ins like you said. It can be more entertaining to see a fox like Hax or Armada juggle him around than vice versa.
@davjags
9 жыл бұрын
U can see mango play against a Marth and do more interesting (and personally more entertaining) stuff. Leffen also goes for the "safe" and "correct" DI, and because top players know what that DI is, they do some crazy stuff against Leffen. Watch m2k vs Leffen at TBH4 or Paragon, he actually reads his DI into some crazy stuff, while Leffen just goes for run up upsmash or up throw up airs. It's just that Leffen doesn't try to style on you, he just tries to beat you by any means necessary.
I wonder if casual players come to videos like this and can visually see that the game is being played much faster than what they're used to.
@yourtrappedinmygenjutsu
5 жыл бұрын
Yes when I first started these guys look in human to me 😂 , I remember not knowing what wave dashing was.. Lol
I been waiting forever for this match
Time flies like an arrow... I miss PPMD.
apex was probably the most hype major this year
3:04 THAT SCREAM I CANT LMFAOOO
PP is the king, many forgot about him but I had confidence he was without a doubt a big favorite. I had it between him, Armada, and Mango, leaning more to Armada, but no doubt PP winning is no surprise
Can anyone explain me how does Rankings work on smashboards? I don't get it, I'm new on the site (but not in the smash community)
I dont know if the audio is different or something but the tipper sound in this video is music to my ears.
10:35 (the guy on the left) When the Jehovah Witness comes knocking on your door
@Astrellin
9 жыл бұрын
Lmao fucking dead
@stevepisano5566
3 жыл бұрын
holy shit lol
Amazing set Melee is sick
This is probably the 6th time I've watched this set. Just so good
3:48 wait for PP's Face xD
what version of melee is this the winners screen looks diffrent than mine.
this is still one of the best sets of all time
Every time I watch a set where PPMD played really well, I am amazed that he ever lost to anyone. So talented in so many facets of the game.
*"Peepee's up on game five"* Well, mine definitely was
this was just such a wholesome set
I started to learn more about matchups with marth, i feel like this could be a good example
I love when KZread reccomends me classic sets
This was such a great set!
coming back and watching these sets reminds me how close leffen was to being able to win this tournament.
@simonk5826
7 жыл бұрын
if he didnt flub the short hop at 19:20 he probably coulda ended it.. who know though
@andrewwager8527
7 жыл бұрын
I don't think he could've killed off it but it would've been close.
@simonk5826
7 жыл бұрын
yeah it actually looks like pp shielded so who knows what honestly wouldve happened, thats melee
Did 10:21 possibly involve port priority (occur on the same frame?)
@stuna210
8 жыл бұрын
+PMDepot No PM johns
@Ohrami
8 жыл бұрын
No, because then Leffen (port 1) would have grabbed ledge.
This was the greatest Melee tournament of all time.
I love how PP always turns into a madman on his last stock.
2:13 Did he do a lagless getup to that platform in order to do the f smash so fast? Or was that just regular l-canceling?
@Jiac.
7 жыл бұрын
Late, but it might be a no impact land.
This set makes me gasp every time I view it. It's a real butt clencher.
what a legendary tournament all around
Came here after reading the manga source material. Pretty good OVA.
Great job pulling it out
I-is this set almost at 1 million views?
@IIYamiSanII
3 жыл бұрын
Just popped up in my recommend after seeing it only, idk, 5087 or so times
@appleormac
3 жыл бұрын
yeah, pretty crazy right
These are my favorite 2 commentators, they looking clean too
I lie awake at night wishing this had gone different
I love at 3:50 when pp does that deep-thinking pose with his hand on his chin hahaha
this is the greatest set of all time
why does this set look so much better than any melee ive ever seen?
it's funny how PPMD drinks energy drinks and Leffen just drinks water.
@noob616
8 жыл бұрын
Think its actually just a Monster water bottle
10:30 PPMD holds the Monster bottle all the way up to his face to screw the cap back on, is that natural or was he just advertising?
this game is insane, i'd love to see a game sorta like melee in terms of speed but with sm4sh's smoothness and character roster and balance. I'd kill for that.
@symes_exe
9 жыл бұрын
Adam Kelly The only real advantage sm4sh has is roster imo, as the meta develops it will probably become less and less balanced, or everyone will get nerfed bcuz that's what Sakurai does. sm4sh does have more viable characters than melee right now, but it also has twice as many characters so it would be a joke if it had less viable characters.
@YamadaDesigns
9 жыл бұрын
I think it'd be cool to go the Pokemon route in the competitive scene with tiers within the skill-based tourney so more characters get playtime.
@symes_exe
9 жыл бұрын
There used to be low tier tourneys, ppl just don't do them as much nowadays I guess
@LabRedstone
9 жыл бұрын
Ever heard of Project M?
@YamadaDesigns
9 жыл бұрын
nah.
PPMD has the best reactions to watch in this game.
PP was fukin amazing