“Fender already makes Fender” 100% agree. No need for another P or J clone!

I'm waiting for the strings made fron repurposed wood.

@BlareWolfgang

3 жыл бұрын

And the electronics.

@BobJones-bh9qz

3 жыл бұрын

And absolutely drowned in totalboat epoxy

@timsway

3 жыл бұрын

lol. you lost me there, Bob Jones. Honestly, my biggest pet peeve are the "epoxy guitars" where people just take a bunch of crap and shove it in resin, then say the guitar is "made of ..." No, it's made of resin, which is terribly unfriendly to the environment. I use epoxy very sparingly. I do, however, soak a lot fo my stuff in Totalboat Halcyon, which is a water-based, low VOC finish they make and I proudly endorse.

@highlyvenomoustoad

3 жыл бұрын

@@timsway wow way to shit on burls guitars...

@timsway

3 жыл бұрын

@@highlyvenomoustoad lol. Don't mind me. Who am I to talk? I'm just making guitars, too. I should be doing something better with my time and skills, like building homes for the homeless or feeding the hungry.

Im really loving the direction its going in. The all wood look is gorgeous, and it sounds fantastic. I can understand why people would want u to hide the tuners, but i agree with u, i dont think it takes away from the aesthetic and looks just fine. Absolutely love the EKG design on the finger board, and the bleed gives it a nice characteristic. Definitely an improvement on the bridge. I like the floating bridge idea, it would make it super easy to replace or mod to a players liking too. Maybe for the knobs on the pots for the pickup u could make a low profile knob out of wood, so it matches and blends with the wood on the back of the body?

@timsway

3 жыл бұрын

thanks. great ideas. noted!

send it to Les Claypool's home address with a sticky note that just says "tell me what you think"

@timsway

3 жыл бұрын

do you have his address? :)

@akashicvizion

3 жыл бұрын

Better yet: send it to Leland Sklar-- He modified his own stuff back in the early 70's (think his "Frankenbass"!).... **He** could put it to the test!!

I love this design and idea. Especially the EKG fret markers.

I would honestly buy something like this, I really love the sound and look. The hidden pickup gives it such a cool look honestly

I LOVE IT!!! That neck is gorgeous! I really really love all the updates.

I love your work and channel Tim! That Bass is frickin awesome dude! Great work 🤘👍!

Love those "EKG" markers! Great design. You're getting better (and more interesting) all the time! Thanks for being informative as well as entertaining.

I love the super clean look and the heart beat line is a nice touch.

I love the shape of this bass. Like, a lot.

I love how these sound. The look is so far outside the box, you can't even see the box anymore. Truly a unique design. Personally, I like the headstock as-is. The only change I might make is as others have suggested to use a different material for the tuner knobs. Thanks for sharing!

Great job tim!, i love that bass!

Wow, man, even better and better. Cheers!

Gorgeous design. Can't wait to see where you end up with it.

@timsway

2 жыл бұрын

there is a version 3 and a fretted 5 string: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fH-kxpSTY5epcag.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/eGuVyquiadbgZJc.html

lovely build!

Very clever the way you did the fret markers.

I love that bass it’s so thin & cool Tim good work Tim.

Great video. Love the look, so clean and smooth. You're onto something here. For knobs how about a slim disk with a hole or divot...flush with surface? Mahalo for sharing! : )

Sounds good and looks excellent to me. Love the inlay

Really looking forward to part 3. These are incredibly creative bass guitars!

@timsway

2 жыл бұрын

you don't have to wait! kzread.info/dash/bejne/fH-kxpSTY5epcag.html

Really nice concept and really great development of the idea! Maybe add roller knobs to the controls like a jaguar or jazzmaster, then you can mount the pots sideways in the cavity with the roller knob popping out. Also maybe wood tuning pegs?

I'm in love with this! I will probably build one and there's a local wood shop that sells scrap cuts for cheap

I really like the 2.0 version the best keep up the good work your ideas are awesome

I love the fretboard! Looks great and sounds great.

Really love this bass a ton!

I just stumbled across your channel a fe weeks ago, and very glad that I did. Love this design and hope that we eventually see a few production models. I'm now subscribed with alerts, I definitely want to know how you decide to sale this Rev 1 design. It would be a great addition to my arsenal.

Love this process, v1 and V2 definitely worth having

I really dig it,man! Your builds really inspire me and I look up to you as a luthier!!! I so appreciate the vids!! keep em coming!! ~Beauty & Peace~ Kyle-

That Bass is really amazing Tim! Great design and playability. You are becoming the Luthier's Luthier, or something like that. I wish I knew how to play Bass because I would purchase one in a heartbeat! Keep up the great work & tweaking of those instruments as you are great at it IMO! 👍👍😉😉🎸🎸

@timsway

3 жыл бұрын

thanks man. Next up is to see if I can apply some of this to six strings, once I finish this.

Cool instruments. And an extra thumbs up for the Vince Guaraldi demo!

Some excellent design concepts there. Especially the shape, as it pertains to the extended fingerboard. I also love the thumb ridge. I personally don't like the controls on the back, but that's not a key feature for me. Overall, at only the second prototype iteration, its looking very promising indeed. Props buddy.

Coming from a old bass player they look and sound great.Seems you reached your goals.

I like these builds, definitely. Haven't checked in with you in quite a while. I have been planning a somewhat similar idea on a build in Winter. I have some ideas on the controls, but I'd want to try my ideas, work out any issues, before just throwing words out there. As for the tuners, my wife and I do make tuner keys out of numerous woods, and a few other materials. We also work with a few local artists and artisans who work with stones, crystals, severely oxidized metals, and fused glass. Also for the tuners, aside from the keys being made out of wood, on a few builds recently we had tapped holes in the tuner post and made special plugs with a threaded pin on the bottom to screw into the tuner post, to give it a different look. We used Gaboon Ebony, off cuts from the fretboard, for the tuner key and for the top of the tuner post, curly maple, blood wood, one with a type of stone, also matching the tuner keys and complimenting the stone inlay on the fretboard (I don't remember the name my wife would remember the name), and one with hardened aluminum which we had anodized. black to match some of the rest of the hardware. Those were some of my final ghost builds, and our current builds will finally not have somebody else's name on them and I will no longer be bound to any type of NDA, so I will finally be able to proudly show my work as my own.

@timsway

3 жыл бұрын

nice. I was thinking wood veneers on the metal tuners from cutoffs of the top wood used on the bass. Nervous about going totally wood (even though I have old upright basses with wood tuners)

Great job on this development of a low cost but decently made bass. I like the idea your making something different.

this "model" per se is absolutely stunning and if you ask me is very worth pursuing in all aspects

I'm really digging this bass, and how it's coming along. Fantastic work! I'm working on my own project bass which was in the works for a long time now, however I am already looking forward to make the next one! And I want to try and make the cheapest 6 string fretless (shortscale, 32" probably) I can. Cost effectiveness can be surprisingly inspiring sometimes.

@timsway

3 жыл бұрын

lol. yes it is. The more limitations you throw at something, the more creative you need to be to work around them, the more interesting the results.

Creative souls like yourself....keep pushing the envelope musically!!!! The tone is clean. Your refinements of the 2nd version, and of the Bridge are beautiful!!! The Fret markers are sweet!!! We so look forward to the finished model. Please consider making this an affordable instrument. Can’t wait to see the “design”of the Bass “case”or “bag”. Hemp??? Organic???

@timsway

2 жыл бұрын

The goal of this is to make it affordable but boutique in quality and design. cheers!

Love the look and the whole concept Tim. Have you considered planetary geared tuners? Kind of tge best of both worlds. The look of old style wooden tuners, but the practicality of geared tuners

I'd looooove one. Amazing little thing. Maybe a 7 string, headless? Would look rad as hell.

It´s looking so cool

I wasn't expecting a Carry On Wayward Son reference, cool. Nice builds too !

@timsway

3 жыл бұрын

lol. neither was I

you always amaze us

I'd probably buy one of these. Very cool

Heck yeah I wanna play it! It's got the tone I've had in my head for decades and have never found.

Very nice design man

Im not a huge fan of fretless but woth that being said id love you have it for my acoustic sets i love the sape.

Love love the EKG position marker. I haven't been playing bass lately (like, a few years) and I wanna change that now. Find a way to auction it among your oldest fans, longtime followers.

These look awesome. As a primary upright player I love your idea for this bass.

@timsway

3 жыл бұрын

I spent most of my career on upright, too. I think I'm trying to find something between a fretless bass guitar and an EUB. I think this bass could fit in with a jazz trio or a power trio.

great desine, i'm dreaming to play on such gem

nice bass! for the tuners, maybe changing those big metal grip pieces with selfmade wooden ones? and the knobs in the back, maybe just a ring of wood that lets you grip them better, but not increasing the height of them

Love v2's hidden pickup but v1s lack of figuring in the timber makes the whole unibody thing more obvious and beautiful.

Great to know all your CNC ‘waste’ is put to good use. A fair few luthiers seem to cut off and discard so much wood, I often wonder how environmental and economical that is. Oh, and your bass is sublime. What about giving it a double bass style head with wooden peg tuners?

@timsway

3 жыл бұрын

it's a thought! cheers.

@cd0u50c9

2 жыл бұрын

I second the open headstock idea with wooden pegs!

Maybe for the tuners you can put them on the inside of the headstock instead of the outside like a classical guitar head but inverted.

This is so insanely sick

Love the all wood look. As another commenter said, wood knobs might look good! Love how it balances when you hold it with one hand. Do you think you'll make a similar guitar, not fretless I guess!

@timsway

3 жыл бұрын

I could do similar fretted instruments, too, and may try, but adding frets does take away from the concept a bit.

Oh hell yeh I'd buy one- I have a couple of Wish basses, which have some similarities. They're great Sound brilliant too

2nd one sounded markedly better. Cool to see the improvement on the design. I def would be interested in one down the line especially if the build is cost effective

@timsway

3 жыл бұрын

cheers. The goal I'm shooting for is a pretty high end looking, sounding and playing instrument for close to but under $1k. I need to clean up a couple spots and speed up the cnc and process just a little more...

Love it!!! Without reading through all of the comments, I'm sure it has been mentioned... Wouldn't a pickup option be a piezo blade-type bridge? I have a 3-octave fretless with bartolinis, and a piezo in the bridge. Makes it sound even more woody... Wonderful mwahhs 😁 Either way, cool as hell... I would definitely be interested in playing this beautiful instrument! Nicely done 👍

It looks like a great design. I'd like to play one!!! Think you should auction it off and see what someone else sounds like playing it.

I love the look, i would buy one but i do not have skills needed to play it yet. I really like the clean face, and the fret markers. You could do a lot with that too. Maybe make something that looked like a flock of birds .

They were some funky tunes, especially the last one, love it.👌🏽 Amazing work, mate, they look so fresh and sleek.👍🏽 You could always put a reserve on it in the auction so you get what you think it's worth, anything over that is sheer bonus.😉

@timsway

3 жыл бұрын

If I do an auction I'll reserve it at material costs (about $200) :)

@Bill.L.Carroll

3 жыл бұрын

@@timsway There ya go, that'll work, and I'm sure she'll go for much more than cost!👍🏽

You should use a metal wheel for the pots vs a knob. It's be more flush but still a bit more friendly compared to a bare pot

I'd love to see the volume and tone knobs recessed into the body. Obviously not entirely, but like fairly deep I guess.

Man, you can get your JACO going on that instrument! BRAVO, TIM!!!

You're such an inspiration, Tim! Loved the video. Also, I'd say auction!

Mate,youre a visionary.

You are quite the interesting designer, Tim..And by all means- retain the fretless growl within the production builds- SO lacking in many fretless bass guitars- at least without a great deal of finagling! The compliments are well deserved!

Tuners are awesome. it's part of what makes a bass look like a bass.

Great V2, it's certainly getting there. Personally I don't like the controls placement. I'd look at maybe those wheel type controls fender used on the jaguar or jazzmaster guitar (I forget which it was). Some modern brands also use them and you could install them on the edge to still be invisible from the front but infinitely more user friendly. I'd also like a bone nut. I get that doesn't adhere to the all wood thing but for me some elements are just better and excusable when innovating. I agree a different headstock shape that's less pointy would be more to my taste but each to their own. Really cool V2 though and I really love what you're doing

I've built a lap steel, I would buy this as a kit with CNC files but I don't see it for sale. A maker space opened up in town and I could use their CNC. Nice work!

@timsway

4 ай бұрын

This is my proprietary design so no kits or files, but I do have other inastrument designs that I sell plans for. Guitar and bass. NewPerspectivesMusic.com

great design

Id be interested. That thing is slick.

sick as it is! Love it brother. One question is how is the pickup mounted inside? is it pressed up against the top or is it floating just under? am interested in doing something like that in the future just curious how the string vibration is being picked up. \m/

@timsway

3 жыл бұрын

there is a foam pad under the pickup that compresses a little when screwing the back plate on to hold it tight. that's it!

Para mi está maravilloso tu bajo sin trastes, tu idea, tu propuesta nos lleva a un paso superior 💯👍. En esta etapa, observando la versión 2.0 opiné, que pudieras mejorar la forma de la pala, esa forma tipo a remo es cursi, es muy común y no identificará tu trabajo ni al instrumento cuando se produzca en ciertas cantidades. Para todo quedase acorde a tu diseño y al genuino concepto que nos muestras, imaginé que una distribución compacta intercalada tipo contrabajo o, al de las guitarra clasicas españolas estaría más esa pala al nivel de tu concepto y del instrumento. Saludos de un bajista desde la Habana.

tim you never cease to amaze me! will you be at made in ct this year in naugatuck ? would love to see you again.

@timsway

3 жыл бұрын

Tom! No, I'm not doing that this year but I have been taking "the Jambulance" out and about. I just did elephant's trunk and I have Aug. 14 at Coe Park in Torrington where my truck will be the "green room" for the performers. I have a couple more in the works. there's a calendar at newperspectivesmusic.com!

@timsway

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Tom, I may actually be at the expo on Sunday the 15th, driving my truck right in to the building!

@tdlvsabs

3 жыл бұрын

@@timsway I hope to see you there. its good to see people in person from time to time. im picking up a 3/4 " maple heavy duty pallet from work today.

@tdlvsabs

3 жыл бұрын

@@timsway that would be great im dying to see that truck and hopefully ill have some pics to show you.

I'm a fine artist/3d maker but in the mists of time I dabbled in music, guitar, bass, kbd and production/engineering. BUT it was when I stood on a stage with a bass that I felt 'right'? If I could run into your shop and grab one item and leg-it out, it would be that V2.0 - the thumb rest/ridge is an inspired idea [i never liked those little screw on rests!]. Beautiful piece of design Tim.

@timsway

3 жыл бұрын

thanks! I've messed around before with thumb rests. this is the best, most versatile one so far.

I really like this design...inspiring. 'Might have to try something like that sometime on my project list. 'Could be interested in Vectric files if you ever decide to offer them.

@timsway

3 жыл бұрын

cheers. Something like this I will probably not set the files because it's ind of right in my bread and butter wheelhouse. I am considering designing an instrument just to sell as files... you think there's a market?

@jimbecker5675

3 жыл бұрын

@@timsway I do believe that there is a market for guitar files, although the major interest always seems to be with reproducing the "names". One thing, though, and it comes from someone I know that does sell files...you have to caveat the heck out of things because all too often a buyer will think that a Vectric (or other) file is "totally turn key" and not understand that the file is a starting point that they have to adapt to their machine, material and needs. There is no "push a button" type file, especially for something like a guitar where some dimensions, etc., are very critical and precise.

@timsway

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimbecker5675 true. With my diy guitar kits I include some dxfs for cnc users (although the kit is designed for non cnc) and I have a video that accompanies it to help user walk through. If I were to do a cnc file type thing, I'd do it similarly to include a "behind the paywall" instructional. I have dome some guitar files for vectric users and part of my "in the labs" series there, too. Some have a little practice :)

Additionally, this is well worth getting the CNC 'bugs' addressed, and placing into production.

Nice looking and sounding fretless bass Tim and ya on prototype three hide the tuners just for the clean wood look.... eBay and have a proper auction for the number 2 prototype ..

@timsway

3 жыл бұрын

I think I'll make a v3 and auction them both when I do. Give me a few weeks :)

Have you considered making wooden saddles with screw adjustments that are set into the body? You can keep the all-wood aesthetic while still recapturing the adjustable bridge functionality.

@timsway

3 жыл бұрын

fun idea! Trying to keep production (read: retail) costs low by simplifying as much as possible.

SO AWESOME

These basses are cool af!

This is my third time watching this video. That bass is just amazing

@timsway

4 ай бұрын

you know there are updates too, right? kzread.info/dash/bejne/fH-kxpSTY5epcag.htmlsi=z8mdkxXZPjMPrIZi and kzread.info/dash/bejne/dqOjo8WngJe1aLw.htmlsi=mq35CpEgNa27HTOg

Very sleek. Love the lasered pulse markers. How about wood tuning keys?

@timsway

3 жыл бұрын

I was just writing with someone else about that. it's an idea... probably a hybrid?

@johngrant5749

3 жыл бұрын

@@timsway yes wood keys, I have seen it done on commercial bass’s, still with metal parts but covered in veneer.

Beautiful

Oh yeah, I forgot about that one! I REALLY like the fingerboard inlay on the new one. I'm really curious what strings you are using on each- did I see black tapes at some point? I just got a Squier fretless Jazz bass (the unofficial Jaco model) set up with rounds, not sure if I like that or not.

@timsway

3 жыл бұрын

I love tapewound strings. I just used regular flatwounds on these

Richlite tuner knobs! That would set those tuners off and blend them into the aesthetic.

I don’t play bass but I would still buy it! Great design!

Definitely would be interested if it were put up for auction. As for the knobs on the next design, you could do away with them entirely and ship it with an all-wood volume pedal!

@timsway

3 жыл бұрын

lol. the basses I gigged with for about 10 years didn't have any knobs and I never missed them. I used an eq pedal, a compressor and a wah. I frequently "rode" the wah by keeping my foot stil on it for a quick, dramatic tone change without fluctuation. I used my tuner as a mute.)

This bass is awesome! If I was a bass player I definitely would want it. Therefore, I think it would look cewl as a guitar, too. A pity you did not build this in the GGBO, it would have had good chances to win, imho. 👍

With low profile tuners you could probably be able to make a headstock cover type thing, I don't remember where I seen it but I think it's one of those weird old european guitars had on in metal or plastic

@timsway

3 жыл бұрын

There are some options but I do get nervous straying too far from modern bass tuners under the tension of these strings. Add cost effectiveness to the equation and... :/

I really like the look of the instrument! I'm on board with the wood on wood on wood thing with no paint or pickups. One suggestion I would make is to move the knobs to the front, but instead of normal knobs have oversized disks that sit flush like jog wheels on electronics. You could potentially make those from stabilized knots if you wanted them to work with the aesthetic in a different way.

@timsway

2 жыл бұрын

check out v3.0. there's a video :)

@mattf9096

2 жыл бұрын

Well I guess you beat me to it lol good call

Super spettacolo 👏🏻

This bass SOUNDS amazing. And I'm damn picky when it comes to my basses. I'm guessing it's just as playable as it sounds. I'm not a big fan of active basses - I just like to keep my batteries outside of the wood - but otherwise I'd 100% bid on this if you put it up for auction. Bonus points for 6:06 Linus & Lucy; 7:08 Somewhere over the Rainbow. Those are some of the things that also just come to my fingers sometimes when I play.

Vince Guaraldi! Well done sir!

I would love to have one!! 🙏🤩

@timsway

2 жыл бұрын

two, v3.0s are for sale at newperspectivesmusic.com

@bassimprovjams3772

2 жыл бұрын

@@timsway oh sweet!! I’ll go check them out!!

Cheap is my middle name. Haha. I’d like to own one. You can even go pickup straight to the jack with no controls; I’d be down with that to keep costs further down. I see the cost incentive to keep the traditional tuners, though, I’d probably mod mine to hide the paddles. I have a couple of ideas for that which wouldn’t help production costs.

Gaht DAMNIT those are beautiful.

Love it