Elegoo announced their Jupiter to be sent to KOLs, are you one of them?

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

Well, I'm not sure I'm a KOL and I'm not sure Elegoo have forgiven me for the Mars 4K wobble incident yet ( kzread.info/dash/bejne/gqyNpMiQgMLZdM4.html ) . Regrettably I am compelled to tell the truth as I see it. If it's good, I'll say so. If it's bad, I'll say so. Now whilst I NEVER called the Mars 4K "bad" I was concerned that the Z arm wobbled. Many KZreadrs claimed it didn't happen or if it did, that it didn't effect the printing. Whilst I'd already said it didn't effect printing, my concern was the long-term implications. I guess if these others get Jupiters and I don't, then we'll answer both points... I'm not a KOL and I'm not forgiven 😂🤣😁😁😁😁

@Kenagon

2 жыл бұрын

@@vogman That is the main point I'd like to see your review)) The word "Honest" in the title is written in capital letters not in vain))

@JohnJones-oy3md

2 жыл бұрын

I can't believe that it's been 15+ months since the announcement of the Jupiter. Where does the time go?

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

I use the word HONEST because I mean it. Others have starting using too now, I've noticed, though I'm not sure they fully understand the meaning of the word. 😉😁

@nickh7777

Жыл бұрын

Which 4k is the same height? The X2? On Amazon it's saying the x2 is only a little over 7" in height...

If you pop your build plate into the freezer for around 15 minutes prints just pop off. I wash them first and put the plate on a paper towel to avoid getting resin in my freezer. Saw the freezer tip online somewhere, it works amazingly well.

Great review (as usual!). Of course, we will do our best to support the new Mono X 6K as soon as possible. And it may comes sooner than expected ;)

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

Knowing the work you guys do, I've no doubt it won't be long at all 😁😁😁

@vaughn.reynolds

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully soon! I love Lychee and its tough using other slicers now lol

@alonalgr660

Жыл бұрын

There's a bug with Z height, are you guys aware of that? thanks

Since I'm the only one here so far, have you considered doing a 3d printer round up? A general comparison of whats available right now and recommendations of resin printers for beginners first printer, enthusiasts level and professional level? I wouldn't mind a software video of whats out there and options there may be for either creating or slicing. Either way, enjoy the reviews.

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

That's an interesting thought. Thanks Brandon.

@fablabmakerhub

2 жыл бұрын

@@vogman Oh yes. An end of term report card would be fantastic. I fear Elegoo might get a 'Shows promise but could do better.'

I’ve given up on using the scraper for removing resin prints, I was given an old (but still very sharp) filleting knife and it works a treat, tip gets under the edges and then broader sections of the blade lever the print off effortlessly

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

Nice tip 😁

@nunyabusiness9043NunyaBiz

2 жыл бұрын

@@vogman double entendre fun/pun.

I really wish companies would stop putting _screen_ resolution nomenclature in printer model names like it actually means something, instead of _print_ resolution. The Mono X 6K prints at the same resolution as the Mono 4K, and the Mono X prints at the same resolution as _the original Photon._ (Nominally, like within a couple microns.)

Geoff your reviews are the best. You pull no punches, and will call out anything that is good or bad with the product.

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

That's my aim with every review... otherwise it's NOT a review just a yes-man (thanks for my new free toy) unofficial commercial, and I don't do those. So thanks for noticing. I appreciate the support 😁😁😁👍👍👍

I managed to nab one of these in the second round of the pre-order. It'll be my first printer. Very excited!

G'day Geoff. Nice review again mate. Isn't it astounding how these 'budget' based hobby printers are producing such incredible detail. It wasn't that long ago, printers producing such detailed pieces were really only available to professionals and business. Incredible really.

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

Very true Dan. 😁😁😁👍👍👍

@karllautman

2 жыл бұрын

That’s the reason I finally bought my own printer (a Mono X) after using Shapeways for years. It arrived a few days ago. I’m still awaiting my IPA before making my first print.

Thank you for thw review! It was very helpful

Mine just showed up in the mail today.. here we go lol... Happy Holidays

I have the Mono X... AWESOME printer straight out of the box. Price has gone down... great buy for a starter SLA printer!

Thanks for this great review. This is what I am going to upgrade to from the Mono 2, which is really nice but 40% or so of my prints are too large for the build plate; it is also great to get into 3D printing on due to it's small size but time to upgrade now that I got a handle on the hobby.

I'll be staying away from the internet on the 15th, still happy with my MonoX4k. Now when the Photon Mono XL 8k, that will be a different story. Still a great review! Makes it harder to pass this round of upgrades. Cheers.

Getting back into resin print after a long break, just in time to see you comparison viseo. Great work, thank you. May I ask what base coat did you use to spray the models with? Really brings out the detail 👍

try using a single sided razorblade to get your prints off the plate, it's like magic compared to one of those paint scrapers the printer companies send out with their gear. Almost zero force needed.

love all your work ; please do some jewelry rings and few pendants (please to choose these levels of designs; some to be with less details + some to be with medium details with fine design +some to be with extra details with fine designs) also if it is possible to use the most proper recommended castable resin for that (BlueCast X-One Meltable Resin ; maybe !) or your best choice of resin....i am interested to see how the designs will look like after printing and that will help me to make a decision about buying the 6k printer or not...thanks alot Vog.

another subject that worth to make a video about is choosing the right castable resin for jewelry ; maybe if you give a review for the best ranked NO 1 resin for this purpose might help a lot for those who are in this kind of work + showing the process (cleaning ; curing ; UV light...etc) in order to make the prints ready for silver or gold casting ; i can say this concerns me so much ; there are so many types of resins in the market and also many reviews about them ; and i feel i am lost with all this kind of uncertainty for how and what to choose for my work which is 3d prints for jewelry.......this is one subject right now ......the other subject is the printer it self ; i will post my concerns later on when it comes about choosing the best printer for our work (3d prints for jewelry )in order to have the best results that we want ; this is also a very important matter to all of us....thank you Vog.

Good job on the review. What we need a full tear down of both printer (4K-6k) and everyone get to see what is the actually difference.

what primer do you use? it seems to show good detail and i personally like it's shade.

Straight to the business. Thanks vog.

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

Many thanks 😁

Just got this for 180 because Walmart online has it on clearance, my first resin printer and I can't wait.

My congratulations for the channel, for me it's the best youtube channel for 3D printers : ) Would you like a suggestion of your 3D printer for jewelry, which currently offers better print quality than those on sale? Is it the Anycubic Photon ULTRA 3D or Phrozen Sonic 4K ?

I had questions about the 4K vs 6K, and you answered. Other than minor print volume and screen res they are the same. But the 6K prints higher detail than the 4K. Thanks.

Just a question I have one of these and have had problems with resin curing on the top of the build plate. To solve this I have made a black out cover to cover the printer all the time. I also have the Wash & Cure and use 99% IPA. The resin in the bin gets cured on the SS cage that goes in it. Have you had any of these problems?

Great review Geoff! Sounds like an option I will consider when I go to purchase a printer! :D Thanx for the vid buddy!

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

Any time Cap. Great to hear from you 😁😁😁

excellent video, thanks a lot for the info

What is the configuration you use? Nice video!

wonderful review. thanks for this. made my choice nice and easy!

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

just picked up the photon mono sq for my first printer and love it

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

Good choice! You'll love it 😁

Thanks for the review. Besides the quality, I want to know how fast is the printing. Could you tell me what is the height of the figure (with support) and how long it takes?

Do you have a video on recommended accessories for a newbie getting into printing with a Mono X/Mono X 6K? I glanced through but you have so many videos. Also I'm wanting to get into resin printing specifically. I want something super high quality. Large built area is a plus, and reliability is a must. We have the price of the Mono X 6K now - I think it's worth it over the 4K. But is the 6K the right choice? Or is there a better option out there from a different vendor?

Good to know they aren't doing the whole chitu board lockout BS. Great review as always !

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. It's good to know these companies are listening to user feedback 😁😁😁

Which would you suggest for someone just starting out? I really like high quality stuff but is it worth the extra $200?

Saw this on the any cubic website today, looks interesting. I currently have a mega x and looking for better quality. I downloaded the photon workshop software. What I can see in it is the option of different resins. The sales blurb says it can handle 150 different types of resin. the software only has 1. how do you / where do you get the profiles for the other resins ? retail is showing as 599 USD but sold out at present.

Great Review as always!! 👍

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that Charity. Thanks 😁

Hi! I want to change my Phrozen sonic 4k to this one-how do you think, is it good idea or not? In theory resolution is equal-is it equal on practice?

Hi, could I ask recommendations between this one and the anycubic M3 ? Thank you

Is there an expected life for these LCD screens? Does Anycubic and Phrozen provide such a spec, or maybe a guaranteed minimum life? If the manufacturer's are silent on this matter, what have you - and others too - experienced in this regard? Would you care to provide a wide range WAG type estimate regarding screen life?

are resin printers just for models or can you print functionable parts, whats the speed difference between fdm and resin and finally would there be a resin thats the same build volume of a prusa style. I might be asking stupid questions but carnt work out what to get for a total newb for making engineering bits.

I pre ordered the phrozen mini 8k, I'm surprised they haven't sent you one for review. Can't wait to get it..

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

You've made a good choice I suspect. The prints they're releasing look amazing 😁

Doing the same Ameralabs test print today I did the same slip and split my glove on the thumb. Hoping it gets easier to scrape prints off after a few prints.

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

The plate gets better each print - less intensely grippy, but with plenty of adhesion for the prints 😁

Started yesterday with my 6k and I already hate that checkered pattern, compared to the whambam on my mono X stuff either sticks like crazy or not at all, I had fails at 25s bottom layer exposure and stuff is sticking like crazy at 30s.

Are they making a larger size Ultra? I need a larger printer and it seems like projection printing is the way to go.

What is this wolfthing at the end of the video? Im totally getting this printer.

This Photon mono X 6k is on sale for $359 in the US, should I jump on that deal? Great review!

I'm looking for some help about which 3d printer to buy. I've never owned one and looking for something that can provide great detail and not cost me £400+. Would this be a good one to buy?

awesome review. Have you heard anything about the ultra? i missed the kickstarter deadline but still looking to purchase one.

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

I haven't heard anything yet. It will be very exciting 😁

Great review.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it 😁

Why do I get layer shifts/slight split towards end of bigger models? It’s happened twice and I haven’t wanted to print anything bigger than a mini because of it.. what are your exact settings lol

Anycubic photon ultra X, will be my next machine

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

I'm looking forward to seeing future incarnations on the Ultra 😁

Fiquei bem impressionado e muito interessado, mas eles precisam ter impressoras como esta nos armazéns do Brasil para que eu possa. Espero que não demorem para fazer isso. Obrigado pelo vídeo. Abraços brasileiros para você! e é claro que eu adoraria ver outras impressões feitas nela, por favor! - I was very impressed and very interested, but they need to have printers like this one in the warehouses in Brazil for me to be able to. I hope they don't take too long to do this. Thanks for the video. Brazilian hugs for you! and of course I would love to see other prints made on it, please!

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

Obrigada. Espero que Anycubic resolva as coisas para você no Brasil em breve. Quanto às fotos, adicionei algumas à minha conta do Instagram esta semana instagram.com/vegoilguy 😁😁😁

what settings did you use im having real issues with mine at the moment, cant seem to dial it in like my elegoo machines

Around the 3 1/2 minute mark it sounds as though you're suggesting the higher resolution screen will still print at the same quality as the 4k prints due to microns?

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

That's pretty much it, yes. It's all about pixels per inch really. Lots of pixels in a small area gives you fine quality and vice versa 😁

Do you see any difference based on AA which is available for the 6k but not yet available for the 4k? Also, would there be any benefit to setting the layer height to .03 to match the xy of .034? Sorry if the answers are obvious, I am just learning about Resin printers.

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

I'll be honest I haven't done any Alias testing yet, but the prints are coming out beautifully. Actually if you look on my Instagram page I've display a couple of prints so far done at 0.035 and they're looking great. instagram.com/vegoilguy/

My Question may be off topic but, do you have this large figure only have painted with a thin layer of standard spray can primer after pulling away the supports, cleaning and curing? It looks ultra smooth. I havent painted anything in the past and handle with some white or cloudy places on my models. And btw. the Prints on the x 6k are marvelous. Your speech is gorgeous for a german guy like me. Thank you.

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

A little patchiness of colour can often happen with prints, I know, but for me these were quite large. But the truth was they LOOKED worse than they were. The spray I used is Citadel Mechanicus Grey and I used just one thin coat. There has be NO OTHER sanding, filling, etc. Honesty is important to me so I declare everything I do so as not to confuse or misinform anyone 😁 So yes, the prints on the 6K are looking VERY smooth with very few layer lines that I can see. My plan is to do more prints and share them on Instagram, so time will tell 😁 Thanks for your comment 👍👍👍

Epic review 🤣😂

Nice review! I use Acetone first then IPA. Perfect clean prints.

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

Good to know! 😁😁😁

Did the ethanol/IPA mix affect your print permanently, or did the priming resolve the blotchy issue? I have just inadvertently mixed a batch of IPA and meths!

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

The print was unharmed, just blotchy, so discoloured I guess. Priming certainly sorted the issue. It's quite possible that mixing IPA and ethanol before cleaning would be harmless as, perhaps, if there was any discoloration, it would be uniform... I don't know. The important point is, it was a harmless result if priming and painting is the plan 😁

@west1987

2 жыл бұрын

@@vogman brilliant, thanks! Saves chucking a couple of litres of 'special brew'.

It always feels like it is the wrong time to get into 3d printing! Would you recommend someone with no experience waiting for the new DLP printers, or jump in sooner with a 4k printer?

@mohdrifi1930

2 жыл бұрын

Im 0 experience on 3d printing. Im jumping on sonic mini 8k. Mine coming on feb 2022.

Hi VOG. Does new mono x has screen protector? So leaked resin will not ruin it.

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

No that I noticed. It's worthwhile getting one though. FEP splits can happen 😁

seeing the backplate being scratched, is this an issue for future prints? ( after many prints done?) or is this somethign that's common and not an issue?

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

Actually no. You should see my Mini 8K plate... that's got some serious scratches. I've not yet found these scratches to cause any difficulties 😁

Great review thanks. I am looking for bigger plate printer(I have mini4k). So, Please give me some opinion on comparing Mono x 6k to Mighty4k. Thanks.

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry to Phrozen, but that's an easy one. The Mono X 6K easily outperforms the 4K Mighty and Mono X 😁

Does the mono X and the mono x 6K have the same vat/build plate size? Will the parts work on both machines?

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry Stephen, I've no idea. I believe the plate is slightly bigger with the 6K, but I don't think that would effect the vat as there's very little difference. But I wouldn't like to say for sure.

Creates great prints but just shortly after 3 month the LED quite working. $250.00 to replace means I might just go the DLP route and store this one until prices for the LCD go down.

What worked better. Pure ethanol or pure IPA?

When you say better than before, does that include the DLP printer you previewed?

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

Nothing much is beating that little DLP in my eyes. This is close, but the Ultra just beats it. However, the 8K sonic might make a massive difference... we'll have to wait and see.

Enjoyed the contents

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Lloyd 😁

I purchased the 6k during the early bird special. Cannot wait to receive it. You mentioned a flexible plate, do you know if there is one available for this new printer?? Thanks in advance.

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

You'll love it. If you've seen my instagram.com/vegoilguy/ account, I've been doing frequent prints. Wham Bam have already been in touch with me and told me they already have a flexible plate ready for this unit. I hope that helps 😁

Let’s see more of this printer.

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

I'll see what I can do 😁

First! It really seems like AnyCubic is getting good feedback for that build plate!

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

Plate adhesion will not be a problem here, that's for sure 😁😁😁

What was the name of that primer that was used? That color looks really awesome

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

Actually it's Cital Mechanicus Grey... it's not a primer as such, but it works beautifully and is a great colour 😁

I am a bit bummed out because I just bought the 4k version. It would be great if they can offer a 6k screen upgrade for the old mono x.

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure about that one, but even so, the 4K is an excellent printer 😁

Hi VOG nice video and thx for it, I just bought the printer because og this video. I stompled over the part where u said u got "blotchy patches" (6:45min), just wanted to let u know that if u cure your model in wather u get around this problem and u also don't have to be cleaning your models to thorough when curing in wather ;)

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip Michael 😁

Thanks for sharing 👍

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching 😁

Would have been nice if the screen size was the same and the screen of the og mono x could have been upgraded to the 6k variant/ a upgrade kit

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. But perhaps squeezing 6K out of the same screen area just wasn't possible. 😁😁😁

Do you know if we will be able to purchase the 6k display and install this into the 4K as an upgrade?

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

I'd GUESS not as the physical dimensions of the screen are different... but I could be wrong 😁

@zshinko9617

2 жыл бұрын

That would be nice, I love my mono X 4k and if it fits it would be great as an eventual upgrade when my current screen fails

What primer do you use? Thanks!

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

This was Citadel Mechinicus Grey

what is a good uv power % for translucent resin?

It's still beyond me most reviewers nowadays don't do a rangefinder exposure calibration in order to assess the print quality

I’m new to all this & would like to know more about how to make the designs for model building, I’m a complete novice so sorry if it seems a dumb question

I'm more interested in what colour primer that is 👀 it seems to show off detail better than standard grey primer

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

Citadel Mechanicus Grey 😁

excellent

Can the 4K print a transparent PET bottle?

What I would like to know is a mono 4k upgradeable to 6k with lcd replacement?

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry Thomas, I would GUESS not as the screens are difference sizes. But I could be wrong.

@android01978

2 жыл бұрын

@@vogman an upgrade kit including a top plate would be a great option if all other parts are the same. Even if half the price of a new printer I’d consider it. Else I’ll be waiting before upgrading.

Just saying cude you not just get the parts of the 6k add the to the mono x?

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

I've checked with Anycubic and they have no plans for such a kit at present... I'm not sure if it would even be possible given the size differences.

How are these printer noise wise? My Mars Pro sounds like a jet plane.

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

That sounds like a dud fan. None of these printers should be noisy. Yes, you can hear them, but it should easily become background noise (as does this 6K).

@ImaginationToForm

2 жыл бұрын

@@vogman Cool, Thanks. I really want to save up for something bigger but I guess companies need to do their incremental improvements first.

@ImaginationToForm

2 жыл бұрын

@@vogman It wouldn't surprise me about the fan. I had trouble with leveling the bed from the start and had to buy my own replacement. The replacement Elegoo sent me was even worse than the one with the printer.

VOG, would you be interested in running a few test prints for me? The parts are small. I'd like to see a test print from this Anycubic Mono X 6K, and the Phrozen Sonic Mini 8K. If not you, would you be so kind, and recommend someone I could ask? I'm in the US. I would expect to pay for such help in evaluating these two machines.

Will Antialiasing work with this machine?

Vog thx ! Im buy anycubic ultra for jewelry nice review

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

Good choice! You'll love it.

When testing out the quality why does everyone keep printing with the layer height of 0.05 and not 0.1? or just lower than 0.05?

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

Simply because it's a standard test... the quickest and most frequent print setting. If you can attain good results on 0.05, then you can expect better on lower settings 😁

I am going to get this

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

I love mine (and if you are buying it, if you could use one of the links in the description, I may get a tiny commission from Amazon - and every little helps 😁). BUT do shop around and get the best deal for YOU.

YOu sir are my hero! Any thoughts as to when you will or if you will get the mini 8K in your clutches? ;)

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

Well, I am hopeful. I've been speaking with Phrozen, sending them flowers, promising NOT to attend their office parties, etc, so maybe... maybe... and soonish...

@FenWolf

2 жыл бұрын

@@vogman LOL! =)

So many printer version 2K to 8k and DLP. I thought that DLP is the future but with increasing #K in LCD, will it be surpassed.

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

No one knows for sure Paul. No one knows the future. My personal GUESS is that DLP will go from strength to strength and eventually surpass LCD in the home market. But we'll have to wait and see.

So is this printer replacing the Phrozen Sonic 4k in your heart?

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

Tricky... I do love my Sonic... I guess time will tell 😁😁😁

Should probably mention the Anti Aliasing problem. They promised to add it to the Mono X 4K but never did, and now they bring out the 6K which supposedly has it.

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

Actually that's a fair point. I missed that one... To be honest it's been printing so well without any obvious layer lines that I haven't even tried.

@karllautman

2 жыл бұрын

The latest 4K firmware, v3.5.4, is supposed to fix at least some of the anti-aliasing issues.

Im going to wait for the pro version

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

It should be interesting... 😁

@ThePowerknoedel

2 жыл бұрын

@@vogman also Im going to wait for your review of the pro version 😁😁

i found that prints stick like that whenever i use lychee.. don't know why.

Cool

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 😁😁😁

What file format does the Mono X 6k use?

@vogman

2 жыл бұрын

It's pwmb through Photon Workshop, though eventually other slicers will be available 😁