@@@@@ hey the experiment was run from sept 1st to 4th, but it's over, i'm not hosting it anymore, i'm not going to host it again, there are no servers currently running it, and i don't know if anyone else will run a server with this plugin. the developer has released the plugin for download here: naleksuh.com/notso-randomizer.sp

@cielros

2 жыл бұрын

Ok

@kelvin7743

2 жыл бұрын

It's alright, quality over quantity

@tristancampbell4941

2 жыл бұрын

As long as you create it, it's fine. Take as long as you need(Just not too long😂).

@tripleA34

2 жыл бұрын

@Anonymouthful

2 жыл бұрын

Totallly worth it.

Heavy charge is fucking hysterical to see in practice.

@YeltsinIsIlluminati

2 жыл бұрын

Fuck i laughed so hard

@masterzoroark6664

2 жыл бұрын

It's basically overclocking tank's speed for a while

@OneSaltyBruh

2 жыл бұрын

Seeing brass beast heavy charge at someone at extreme speed is hilarious

@galadrix4528

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, as if it was a whole strategy itself lmao. It's like getting punched by hoovy mittens from the back but in real life.

@Mabra51

2 жыл бұрын

INCOMIIIIIING

extremely fat demoknight was very fun, nice experiment

@AjarTadpole7202

2 жыл бұрын

lol

@COCO-tm3gp

2 жыл бұрын

Demoknight tf2

@cielros

2 жыл бұрын

ok

@leonardo9259

2 жыл бұрын

Don't you have a tweet to screenshot to show how you never to things for clout?

@thegamingfungus9347

2 жыл бұрын

Demoknight

The idea of a spy making his way to the back line and shredding the enemy team with a mini gun when they least expect it is horrifying.

@ivan-he1ij

Жыл бұрын

it's perfect

@skinnyboy2704

Жыл бұрын

Spy is like "im tired of this shit" and kils everyone who dares to kill him

@elemusic19

Жыл бұрын

It would be even scarier if they had buff banner.

@pyrarius1598

Жыл бұрын

Imagine the spy with The Holiday Punch + Sniper Rifle + Conch/Darwin's

@danieldubrovin8813

Жыл бұрын

No more sneaking only homicide can defend the briefcase

8:20 what 5,000 hours of heavy looks like.

@thedude0000-b2j

Жыл бұрын

lmaooooo

@eugeniaamariei8626

7 ай бұрын

Firing a sniper rifle from the hip lol.

@sudokuacrobatics

Ай бұрын

Sniper heavy VS Tunguska-Knight

@daniboi_oneninefive

Ай бұрын

the heavy just casually trimps with no issue

I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING MORE TERRIFYING THAN A HEAVY USING THE MINIGUN-CHARGIN' TARGE COMBO

@FortworthYT

2 жыл бұрын

It would have made him more valuable and will get more people to play him, so Heavy update please.

@CrabHead501

2 жыл бұрын

The brotherhood of nod has not seen anything so... terrifying

@drawingcrabs7046

2 жыл бұрын

And power jack or something for getting there

@poorknightofthehollowhills8489

2 жыл бұрын

Then you're probably yet to see a Heavy wielding a Thermal Thruster as a secondary, sir.

@feinky8489

2 жыл бұрын

Peace through Phlog!

He explains the severe limitations of heavyknight while playing clips of said heavyknight being the scariest thing I've ever seen

@beywheelzhater8930

2 жыл бұрын

Psychological warfare doesn't count *Or does it?*

@pro_fail

2 жыл бұрын

It's just propaganda to stop you from playing as one of the most OP subclasses, don't listen to him

@corrat4866

2 жыл бұрын

@@beywheelzhater8930 Hey Vsauce, Micheal here.

@Gotmilk0112

2 жыл бұрын

It makes sense, too. Heavy’s biggest weakness is his slow movement, so being able to just charge around a corner pretty much just makes Heavy into a stronger Pyro.

@name_unkn0wn

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gotmilk0112 He also has a large health pool so it takes more time to eliminate him.

Imagine a heavy ubering a medic, with the medic having a minigun, lol.

@tolland4433

Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha brilliant

@vivelespatat2670

Жыл бұрын

So is it Meet The Medic or Meet The Heavy ?

@A.Singularity

Жыл бұрын

@@vivelespatat2670 Meet the Meavy

@ihap5180

Жыл бұрын

​@@A.Singularity Meet The Headic

@sleepingcity85

Жыл бұрын

@@A.Singularity Heat the Meavy!

6:10 - 6:13 That Heavy is the single most horrifying thing that I've seen in a TF2 match. I'd shit my pants seeing a Heavy run after me with such speeds.

@Dylan-eb2xn

Жыл бұрын

Someone touched his minigun

@RipRLeeErmey

Жыл бұрын

Yo facts like if a heavy does this in vanilla I'm pissing myself then uninstalling the game 😭

@PakistaniGoatMilker94

Жыл бұрын

Even the smallest speed boost makes heavy op hence why all his speed items are banned in comp so giving him something like demo charge and I reckon he could solo goku

@vogonp4287

11 ай бұрын

Heavy jumpscare

@PakistaniGoatMilker94

10 ай бұрын

@@vogonp4287 five nights at heavy’s

So basically, once you took class restrictions for weapons away, the game's meta equalized to Quake? That seems fitting.

@Chaos.A

2 жыл бұрын

Well iirc Team Fortress basically just started as Quake but with classes, so it adds up

@monoblitz1492

2 жыл бұрын

reject tf2, return to quake

@vertipop

2 жыл бұрын

@@monoblitz1492 if they had bhop on then it would literally be quake with more guns

@Zer0Main43

2 жыл бұрын

I mean tf2 is just quake with classes, loadouts and no bhopping (yes I know bhopping is in tf2 but it’s useful in exactly 1 situation on a meme class, it barely counts)

@tappajaav

2 жыл бұрын

@@Zer0Main43 False. You can reach spots otherwise inaccessible with bunny hopping on certain classes.

the mental image of a 300 pound russian man armed with a big freakin minigun just POWERWALKING towards you at such high speeds that he's followed by an after-image is mind-blowing

@skyguy713

2 жыл бұрын

Casually approach the child

@starlighteva

2 жыл бұрын

@@skyguy713 aggressively* approach the child

@rakulock

2 жыл бұрын

**competitively approach the child

@officialgeneral_soldiernat5717

2 жыл бұрын

Dark Souls boss music intensifies as the heavy makes his geographic location closer to that of the child’s

@morshulinton4112

2 жыл бұрын

**TF2 Main Theme / Heavy Theme intensifies** *RUN, COWARD!*

Low key busted: Heavy with Quick-Fix. Suddenly you have a 300HP Medic running around, since Quick-Fix matches your speed to the patients if you're slower, at Scout speed. Or blast-jumping alongside Demos and Soilders. And since Quick-Fix is a *secondary* he can still pull out a Minigun. Just imagine a Heavy launching himself through the air with a Quick-Fix alongside a Soilder; swapping to the Tomislav mid-air and bombing you.

@Aaa-vp6ug

11 ай бұрын

Also, every Medigun is usable as a beeg medic as the other Mediguns do the same

@m1thical_362

11 ай бұрын

every medigun matches you (i used to main medic at the time of making this comment) but the mirror jumping ain't a bad idea

@Orangutanus

8 ай бұрын

And he can use another melee too, i would recommend Eyelander, Fists of Steel, Atomizer or anything that gives speed

@greenowl3062

7 ай бұрын

@@m1thical_362you main medic? God bless you

@m1thical_362

7 ай бұрын

@@greenowl3062 not anymore unfortunately

This quickly went from "This will be a fun way to experiment with different, funny ways to play the game!" to SCOUT HELL

The heavy with a charging targe was one of the funniest things I've seen in tf2

@Mate_Antal_Zoltan

2 жыл бұрын

I imagine if Heavy could actually charge in the regular game, instead of screaming he would make race car noises

@bernardokkkj743

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mate_Antal_Zoltan you have given me an idea.

@jcrosenkreuz5213

2 жыл бұрын

Buffalo Steak Sandvich should give Heavy a weaker charge

@energeticyellow1637

2 жыл бұрын

It's fucking terrifying

@Marix-ue5hc

2 жыл бұрын

"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH"

From experience, a scout with a phlog is pretty terrifying.

@whoisanarnb

2 жыл бұрын

from experiment*

@nintySW

2 жыл бұрын

@@whoisanarnb what

@mosio.2504

2 жыл бұрын

And a knife

@whoisanarnb

2 жыл бұрын

@@nintySW he livestreamed the randomizer and called it an experiment

@coneburger9081

2 жыл бұрын

@hv fun bot

8:18 I'm sorry, but the stickyjumper heavy coming out of nowhere to own the shit out of the sniper heavy absolutely sent me

@loleq2137

Жыл бұрын

It's okay, you're forgiven

@ArcYT

Жыл бұрын

you are forgiven, my son

@hellou667thesequel5

Жыл бұрын

We forgive you

@gabrielebasa4292

11 ай бұрын

You are forgiven me boy

@ihateroxy2.024

11 ай бұрын

I forgive you

Y'see? The main reason why Valve had to gatekeep weapons to classes was to protect servers of the sheer nightmare that is Phlog Scouts.

@KopperNeoman

6 ай бұрын

Remember kids, gatekeeping is good! (Unless done for political reasons, female space marine enjoyers)

@thesmm2311

3 ай бұрын

Reserve Shooter should've been gatekept from Pyro

@spaghettimkay5795

16 күн бұрын

​@KopperNeoman you are severely cringe

@wasdkug_tr

10 күн бұрын

​@@spaghettimkay5795bro you have a joker pfp, i don't think you have any room to say that

A heavy charging at you while revved up is nightmarish

@velnz5475

2 жыл бұрын

honestly just what heavy needs to be rebalanced. If it was a killstreak kind of thing id love to see it implemented.

@corde2450

2 жыл бұрын

@@velnz5475 r u serious

@velnz5475

2 жыл бұрын

@@corde2450 Absolutely? idk what you are getting at here, heavy is absolutely one of the weakest class in ratio to ability. There isnt anything heavy can do another class cant which is pretty sad as basically the mascot of the game. As a pyro main, it was fun to be scared of the big imposing heavy... now its... well hes just a tanky scout to me.

@guilhermef.cabral8252

2 жыл бұрын

That could be legit a cool weapon for heavy lol Just reduce the range of it and boom perfect weapon for him

@Shagaru_Bleed

2 жыл бұрын

The last image the human brains sees before they die.

What we've learned: Scout is OP but him having a Scattergun is what makes him balanced.

@doctorhealsgood5456

2 жыл бұрын

Normal scout is just using 0.5% of his power

@MsDestroyer900

2 жыл бұрын

Hes still arguably op because scattergun is still an amazing weapon. In 6s the better scout tends to win games.

@calebplerry9664

2 жыл бұрын

Scout is just OP in general

@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth

2 жыл бұрын

Keep in mind he also was stacking HP-boosting items. The guy's just too fragile by himself.

@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth

2 жыл бұрын

@@doctorhealsgood5456 | That, or the scattergun is just about the heaviest weapon he can run with.

I ran a tournament to find the "best" loadout years ago. The format was a bit different, it was a 1v1 MGE tournament, but just like this players could choose any base class and any loadout, with the restriction that only engineers could build and only spies could disguise and cloak. This was way back in 2014, so balance was very different. In particular this was during the days of charge turn scripting. The winning loadout, and it was clear without question that this was the best loadout for the challenge, was Heavy with Minigun, Charge'n'Targe, and Claymore. The Charge'n'Targe with turn scripting gave ridiculous mobility, so that no class could escape fighting a point blank heavy. It also gave beefy resistances to fire and explosives. The minigun obviously deals massive damage. The Claymore was there to extend the charge duration, making it even harder escape from the Heavy. I recorded some footage from the challenge, which you can see here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mZOFzq2gmc3fcps.html

@AkitAultrakill

Жыл бұрын

This is actually Intresting

@sebaxibeingsilly

Жыл бұрын

Could you share the scripts for it?

@kered13

Жыл бұрын

@@sebaxibeingsilly It was a long time ago now. I know I used the Given Weapons plugin (to give weapons obv) and the Randomizer plugin (to make weapons work on the wrong class), but beyond that I don't know what configs I used. But I don't recall it being too hard to setup, you can probably figure out the rest on your own.

@tappajaav

9 ай бұрын

I forgot to respond last time I read this comment and watched the video you linked, but I absolutely had blast reading your comment and watching that vid, appreciate you sharing :)

@mrstudent9125

5 ай бұрын

Cool

I'm shocked there aren't more trickstabbing Scouts, someone who can zip around and double jump also getting to insta kill from behind sounds scary.

@demi-femme4821

11 ай бұрын

The problem is that everyone else is just as mobile and can easily blow you up or disintegrate you.

@MrAnniTagada

9 ай бұрын

Like father. Like son 🥲

@pluggothesluggo5509

8 ай бұрын

scout with a kunai is either really broken or completely retarded

@demi-femme4821

5 ай бұрын

Why trickstab when you can Direct Hit?

@SimoneBellomonte

Ай бұрын

@@demi-femme4821 Pfp (Profile picture) and / or Banner Sauce (Source [Artist])? 🗿

So if you throw all the rules of TF2 out of the window, the meta returns to Quake?

@moritamikamikara3879

2 жыл бұрын

Reject CS:Go, return to Quake

@danny1689

2 жыл бұрын

Genius comment, kinda underappreciated

@edh1970

2 жыл бұрын

Not at all surprising lmao Quake with limits is tf tf without limits is quake

The fact that Scout utterly dominates the meta to the point of redefining it several times in so many ways just goes to show how powerful having extra mobility can be in TF2 when paired with access to every weapon in the game.

@whirl3690

2 жыл бұрын

Scout is already arguably the most powerful class in the game when he's stuck with Scatterguns, Pistols, and Bats.

@boulder795

2 жыл бұрын

I posted probably an excessively long response to the survey that was pretty much this. The entire experiment resulted in either powerful classes trying to get faster, or trying to increase damage as the scout

@zappodude7591

2 жыл бұрын

Aside from mobility and cap rate all of scout's attributes are handicaps - tied for the lowest health and weapons that only work at point-blank. Pick weapons to improve those, and, well...

@DM_2145

2 жыл бұрын

Scout is already close to if not already OP when played by a skillful individual, this only made him more ridiculous and basically turned Team Fortress 2 into Team Scout 2

@anarchy5282

2 жыл бұрын

Scout is already one of the most powerful classes in tf2 with his hard counter being engineers it made sense that him having a 2 shot sentry killer would make him OP

Y'know, the idea of Heavy with a Medi Gun, especially the Vaccinator, seems super powerful! Heavy's main weakness is how slow he is, but having your beam on somebody causes you to match their speed if you're slower, & this would be even more effective with all of the scouts running around! You could pocket a Phlog-weilding Scout & be an unbeatable combo!

@ditom86pl66

Жыл бұрын

You meant quickfix of course

@SuperDestroyerFox

Жыл бұрын

@@ditom86pl66no. All mediguns make you speed up to your patient’s speed.

@Redacted_Ruler

Жыл бұрын

Oh shit I didn’t even think of the vac

@Kraumyke

Жыл бұрын

​@@SuperDestroyerFoxReally?

@foodeaternamedgoober

11 ай бұрын

the quick fix only adds no movement penalties and you can follow blast jumping mercs

Hear me out, Scout with: Ali Baba's Wee Booties Buffalo Steak Sandvich Preferably the Bushwacka as your melee Scout is fast, has a double jump, but he has low health The boots increase his speed even further, and gives more hp for melee Buffalo steak sandwich gives minicrits and keeps you in melee and makes you even faster The bushwacka turns those minicrits into actual crits, plus Scout uses his melee faster (I think) TLDR, Hella dangerous use for the steak sandwich

@m1thical_362

11 ай бұрын

Maybe swap steak for tide turner, since it minicrits and you get +10% move speed from the booties, and you have an on-demand cleanse [The Bootlegger Level 10 Boots +25 max health on wearer +200% increase in turning control while charging +10% faster move speed on wearer (shield required) Melee kills refill 25% of your charge meter ]

@YoutubeCommonman_Totas

11 ай бұрын

@@m1thical_362 I completely forgot that you need a shield to get the speed bonus from the Boots. Thanks

@demi-femme4821

11 ай бұрын

Of course, the problem is that you have to un at people with your melee out.

@YoutubeCommonman_Totas

11 ай бұрын

@@demi-femme4821 that's why you play scout.

@m1thical_362

11 ай бұрын

@@demi-femme4821 what do you mean? the video is about any class using any loadout, therefore by picking scout you make it much easier to pull off the combo. It's definitely not an optimal loadout, but it sure would be fun.

If the server had an option to vote out certain weapons for the round, I’d think the balance would be better. I also noticed that the game quickly turned into PVP Quake as soon as phlog scout happened

@foulplay1679

2 жыл бұрын

and "direct hit" turned into a railgun

@Slateproc

2 жыл бұрын

Haha lightning gun go brrrrrrrrrrr

@jamesgaming7198

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, I'd really like to see this again but with the voting out one or two weapons for everyone each round.

@proaxel7003

2 жыл бұрын

How would one deal with the same weapons being voted out over and over though?

@seokkyunhong8812

2 жыл бұрын

*bans medigun*

Heavy: "We fight like men." *Charges into an enemy player with his minigun revved, instantly killing the poor soul.* "What the hell?! Freaking speed hacker!" God bless you, Kitty0706, for giving us a glimpse at future technology.

@lushkan

2 жыл бұрын

Keep crying baby!

@SU76M

2 жыл бұрын

Fuck Kitty0706. He was a ponyphob.

@airplanemaniacgaming7877

2 жыл бұрын

@@SU76M ok Bronyvik.

@notamobilesprout4175

2 жыл бұрын

@@SU76M That’s a little extreme.

@SU76M

2 жыл бұрын

@@notamobilesprout4175 As well as extreme was his hating. Nothing exceeded.

"Sniper wasn't good because everyone was so mobile" One of the reasons mobility increasing items/abilities are dangerous. Give someone too many and they can become busted

@marcs9451

2 жыл бұрын

The sniper is the one who is busted here, literal infinite range and being able to deal 150dmg in 0.2sec (although it does take a couple weeks of pratice).

@akoyash9964

2 жыл бұрын

sniper can literally just get better. most busted class and videogame archetype

@darkcat6530

Жыл бұрын

@@marcs9451 can't hit anyone when everyone is moving at lightning speed

@SyRose901

Жыл бұрын

@@darkcat6530 Correction: Can't hit anyome in the "head" area. A sniper rifle that can body shot like the Huntsman, or if the Huntsman was hitscan, Sniper would be truly busted. It basically becomes the Quake Railgun, and Quake Pros can hit their railguns in that game fairly well.

@bigmike8586

Жыл бұрын

@@SyRose901 the hard part is that heads are tiny targets that are constantly moving around with mere mouse movements. this isn't a problem in a game like CS:GO, where your enemy needs to stand still to shoot you anyway, but it adds a gigantic skill ceiling to tf2 sniper on all levels

The beauty of Tf2 is how carefully balanced it is. Notice how even slight balance tweaks, let alone massive overhauls can really bring out the scouts nasty side. Suffice to say, had the Tf2 team not so expertly balanced the game, scout would be the dominant class. His movement speed combined with the raw power of other classes utilities would be a nightmare.

@iluvpandas2755

11 ай бұрын

Movement is generally better than health if done right. Since avoiding all hits is better than tanking a lot of them.

@vivelespatat2670

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, would be really unfortunate if they added a weapon to instantly delete every classes at any range which is also hitscan.

@normaldude7924

9 ай бұрын

@@vivelespatat2670 do you just complain about sniper in every comment you make I see you everywhere

@tappajaav

9 ай бұрын

​@@normaldude7924 Sniper delenda est

@KopperNeoman

6 ай бұрын

​@@iluvpandas2755In cases of unavoidable damage, movement loses hard. That's why sentries beat Scouts.

The Heavy charging is one of the funniest fucking TF2 things I've ever seen. The crit heavy skating around the corner like that was so terrifying.

@OutlawedPoet

2 жыл бұрын

Nothing beats Spy t-posing while firing a minigun.

6:00 might not've been the final meta to performing best at the game, but it's definitely the final meta of killing people irl via heart attacks

@Fandestdh

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, nice pfp

@vdubden10

2 жыл бұрын

Double kill, in game AND real life

@christopherlee9026

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine if the bots in casual mode could do that.

I'm surprised spy wasn't better. Cloak with any weapon seems very powerful, but I guess the games were too hectic for that. And then there were the charging heavies. By god those looked terrifying.

It's kinda amazing that 6 out of the 9 classes had some sense of utility. Scout for the mobility obviously, but Pyro for the fire immunity, Heavy for the health, Engie for the buildings, Medic for the regen and Spy for the cloak. I dunno what use would have the other classes tho, except maybe a mix health / mobility for demo and soldier

@TheTdw2000

Жыл бұрын

Soldier and demo have self blast damage resistances

@truebruhmoment4667

Жыл бұрын

The entire BLU team watching in terror as a Sniper main with the stock Sniper loadout easily kills their entire team from miles away (this includes their 3 phlog scouts and 2 charging heavies):

@vivelespatat2670

11 ай бұрын

​@@truebruhmoment4667Tfw said Sniper main can go Heavy and give it a Sniper Rifle, a Shotgun and the Escape Plan/Powerjack (You are incredibly oppressive at long-range, you're a 300 hp shotgun man and you can run away with the Escape Plan/Powerjack)

8:38 the fact that even when any combination of weapons on any class is possible the crossbow medic is still the best for healing really tells how good the crossbow is.

@ajump7955

2 жыл бұрын

Thats some strong stim

@plasmakitten4261

2 жыл бұрын

The crossbow is literally better than the medic himself, since people were using pyro and heavy to heal but they were still using the crossbow

@ryanhernandez1877

2 жыл бұрын

@@ajump7955 what is stim

@5teve669

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanhernandez1877 the thing you run to play some tf2

@pretzelbomb6105

2 жыл бұрын

You want the crossbow to become terrifying? Find an all-crits server. With a 100% crit rate even the quick-fix fails to keep up, so the crossbow is the only way to keep your teammates alive. The scary part is offense, where it basically becomes a smaller Direct Hit with an arc.

seeing heavy just swing around the staircase at lighting speed at 6:11 is hilarious yet simultaneously terrifying

@heladovegano9770

2 жыл бұрын

Like pyro?

@PaladinLuke

2 жыл бұрын

I keep replaying that section of the video and laughing like an idiot now

@pozkitt2326

2 жыл бұрын

The new heavy update

@littledevil6504

2 жыл бұрын

Im going to have a nightmares.

@zioness

2 жыл бұрын

@@pozkitt2326 one day, buddy one day...

"I present to you; Spyro" *Sounds of the gates of hell being opened as a tidel wave of righteous hellfire engulfs a helpless player.*

I can only imagine how scary it was to see a heavy dashing towards you while firing his minigun and not being able to do anything about it

The heavy charging is simultaneously the scariest and funniest thing I've seen a character in this game accomplish in just one move lol

@jamiehughes5573

2 жыл бұрын

I died laughing at the sight of them charging

@strangejune

2 жыл бұрын

step aside hoovy, here comes moovy

@vivelespatat2670

Жыл бұрын

"Solarlight but broken"

@notloopers1110

Жыл бұрын

We need to make moovy a thing

demoman is literally obsolete because pyro has the same health but runs faster

@halyoalex8942

2 жыл бұрын

And is also immune to afterburn…

@theslamjamfrincisco2820

2 жыл бұрын

But you get less funny voice lines

@Damian-cilr2

2 жыл бұрын

@@theslamjamfrincisco2820 fair tradeoff

@KLIXORthe

2 жыл бұрын

I think demo technically has an advantage in resistance to explosive self damage, but the movement speed disparity alone makes the choice obvious.

@calebbarnhouse496

2 жыл бұрын

but demo should have two primaries due tk the fact he has at base 2 primaries

I swear to god Heavies charging at you at Mach 10 with the turner is the most hilarious and utterly terrifying concept ive ever seen.

you gotta admit, revved up shield heavy jumpscare is hilarious

Charging reved up Heavy was the thing I haven't imagined, ever. Now it'll haunt my dreams

@hubsn8835

2 жыл бұрын

whats up big D

@igorino1767

2 жыл бұрын

Now, it will taunt your dreams

@AirKangLocker

Жыл бұрын

KISS ME

It definitely isn t one of the best loadout, but that spy at 4:18 would be such a meme. Instead of being backstabbed you hear a rev immediately behind you. No annoying facestabs, just a spy with a t-pose and a minigun.

@emilygordbort7300

2 жыл бұрын

tomislav for extra sneaky

@therealvbw

2 жыл бұрын

I saw that guy in game during the trials

@bernardonegri5416

2 жыл бұрын

I once played a custom MvM mission where that was exactly what the mission had. It was in digital directive.

@theneighborhoodidiot7768

2 жыл бұрын

gunspy?

“Phlog scout” is the most terrifying thing I’ve ever heard of

Soldier Flamethrower Medi-Gun Disciplinary Action "YOU ARE THE SUPPORT, SON!" Why soldier? Doktoberfest, maggot

So it has been proven once again: Direct hit is the best melee weapon

@longpham-sj5sv

2 жыл бұрын

The scout b'gone

@topcoppelion6626

2 жыл бұрын

If scout has the Candy Cane equipped, the direct hit atomizes him.

@yosefyonin6824

2 жыл бұрын

@@longpham-sj5sv man of culture

Scout has speed and double jump, soldier and demo have rocket/sticky-jump resistance, pyro is afterburn resistant, heavy has more health, engie is a building wisperer, medic has passive regen, spy can cloack. Sniper:

@fatfrogge8753

2 жыл бұрын

Is a professional

@itzwizory9556

2 жыл бұрын

@@fatfrogge8753 with standards

@josephvaldez6264

2 жыл бұрын

@@itzwizory9556 he is polite

@josephvaldez6264

2 жыл бұрын

@@itzwizory9556 he is efficient

@josephvaldez6264

2 жыл бұрын

@@itzwizory9556 he has a plan to kill everyone he meet

An engineer with a Rocket Launcher for a primary would be fun. You could setup a sentry in some pretty checky spots.

If you ever decide to make another video like this, you should make "what if any class could equip any cosmetic? what loadout would be the most cursed loadout?" for halloween

"fat demoknight is bad" *Shows SolarLight footage of him killing shounic repeatedly*

@vivelespatat2670

Жыл бұрын

solarlight but broken

@TheMuffinman191

Жыл бұрын

@@vivelespatat2670 So, regular Solar

All this taught me is that Heavy needs a minigun with a charge mechanic

@MildTabascofries

Жыл бұрын

A heavy with another heavy with quick fix oh god

@madtwist2364

Жыл бұрын

Charger L4D2. Just be careful not to do it on Upward (or actually, do it, for the trolling).

@zerotian5661

Жыл бұрын

There's a weapons mod that adds a heavy drill that can charge and does damage close range

@theshermantanker7043

Жыл бұрын

Heavy needs a buff to the stupid fucking hidden nerf of being 20% easier to injure with the steak and a faster movement speed after eating it. Why the fuck Valve thought it was a good idea to punish you so much for using melee with a weapon that's literally MEANT to be melee only I have no fucking idea

@samuels1123

Жыл бұрын

Both physical charge and a phlog charge meter, both activate with right click

Giving scout almost any other classes weapons would make him annoyingly strong, but still manageable on account of his low health. But now imagine a spy with a degreaser, or a heavy with a PDA.

@TooFewSecrets

2 жыл бұрын

Spy with degreaser? Spy with Direct Hit is way more terrifying.

@jakehildebrand1824

2 жыл бұрын

@@TooFewSecrets nah, spy with backburner or spy with sticky launcher os worse. Now imagine this, a spy than can place mini sentrys or teleporters

@kobban63

2 жыл бұрын

@@TooFewSecrets ground stol into krit flair

@ivan-he1ij

Жыл бұрын

spy becomes trolldier real

@redamber483

7 ай бұрын

@@ivan-he1ij spy becomes spydier 🕷

6:31 heavy jumpscare

I'm surprised the Natascha didn't become more meta with how over-centralized scout was.

@Chorismos

2 жыл бұрын

Too slow to rev.

@Breakaway-ic5gj

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chorismos It has damage resistance and Heavy is slow to kill

@yeee33333

2 жыл бұрын

It’s way too under appreciated. I play on a Hightower server populated with really sweaty 6’s and highlander scout mains, and buying a Natasha was one of the best things I ever did. It hilariously neuters even the best scouts. But if they close the distance before you’re fully revved, you’re still pretty screwed.

@vergildisparda

2 жыл бұрын

Strafing negates slowdown

@Chorismos

2 жыл бұрын

@@vergildisparda that was fixed ages ago.

Skinny gamer here, Pain train scout was the best loadout to abuse the control points, especially on the last points in A/D maps when you needed just a few seconds to win the match just like that.

charging heavies are hilarious, thank you for this vid

9:25 "SENTRY BUSTER!"

Heavy using the charge n targe was funny was fuck. Normally, a rev'd heavy is slow and tanks, but then he just fucking blinks forward.

@sakesaurus

2 жыл бұрын

*teleports behind u

@GewelReal

2 жыл бұрын

haven't seen word blink used for movement in years

@ananaskoira7225

2 жыл бұрын

@@GewelReal yeah, only makes me think about dishonored

@troyherrmann235

2 жыл бұрын

SAME

@bastaerdus7413

2 жыл бұрын

Literally space marines

Once, I could use every weapon with every class. The quickfix ubers were infinites with any class but medic. The stickybomb launcher don't remove your disguise when you use it ( like a very special sapper, hehe ). You can eat your own sandwich very fast by throwing it and taking it back with any class but the heavy. You can use Your Eternal Reward to be able to disguise, whatever the class you play. When you play any class but spy and you are disguised, your teamates will see you colored as an enemy player.

@unusualpizza

2 жыл бұрын

this is just randomizer lol

@nekokuroki2841

2 жыл бұрын

​@@unusualpizza not randomizer. 1 was scattergun 2 was stickylauncher 3 was golden gunslinger 4 was construction kit 5 was wanga prick 6 was quickfix 7 was flamethrower 8 was sandwich 9 was sniper mouse3 was direct hit + attack mouse4 was jarate + attack I was able to get any weapon I want when I want. I even made a script so when I was using sniper, I had the gunslinger as melee, and when I switched during the same life for Your Eternal Reward, I was equipped with bootleger in primary slot. I was able to use the teleporters as spy from griefers to get inside enemy base / spawn, then build my own teleporter exit inside their base. I was able to use a "golden gunslinger" that is a melee weapon that does not remove your disguise when you use it. And enemy will see you attacking without your disguise being removed, leading to confusion and distress. I did not talked about this weapon in the first comment, because I don't know if this weapon is in the game or if it was kinda modded. I basically changed the game mode to vsh.

@WelshFGC

2 жыл бұрын

@@nekokuroki2841 What the hell are you on about?

@archevenault

2 жыл бұрын

@@WelshFGC Being able to use different weapons without changing loadout, I'm assuming. By adding more weapon slots.

@Ghost13-

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, that sounds so beautiful, but too overpowered...

dude scout with a your eternal reward would be the scariest thing ever

Rewatching this a year later, did nobody think of Natascha Pyro? Pyro's natural immunity to afterburn plus the slowing effect of the Natascha seems like it would be a big help against the Phlog Scout. You could either combine it with the Battalion's Backup and Powerjack for extra speed and health OR a Shield and the Eyelander if you're feeling ballsy for stacking speed and health.

@KopperNeoman

6 ай бұрын

If slows worked as intended, this would be true. Sadly, strafing counters slowing.

@Aussie_Axe

6 ай бұрын

​@@KopperNeomannatascha knockback

Phlog Scunt sounds like the ultimate cancerous experience.

@JNJNRobin1337

2 жыл бұрын

Never-Ending Phlog-Scunt AI Swarms

@qbertking1910

2 жыл бұрын

I have one even worse: scout with black box, powerjack and conch

@Burschlag

2 жыл бұрын

I counter with scout-spy, double jumping around the map and face stabbing.

@ajump7955

2 жыл бұрын

Pyro combo but scout

The charging heavy was such cool idea man It could be legit a weapon for heavy, not only gives him mobility but also makes weapons like the brass beast and Huo long heater super useful a

@emie9858

2 жыл бұрын

Miniguns do far more damage up close, that sounds terrifyingly OP

@PumpyGT

2 жыл бұрын

Overpowered Might add

@Breakaway-ic5gj

2 жыл бұрын

@@emie9858 Don't give him the Tide Turner, give him a mediocre shield that doesn't have resistances nor handling

@blitzn00dle50

2 жыл бұрын

that would work well if tf2 was the kind of game where everyone is already ludicrously OP

@sud1881

2 жыл бұрын

@@blitzn00dle50 but everyone in tf2 is op.

0:50 pyro holding the tomislav actually makes sense

5:13 the ambassador

man, a minigun with a charge ability seems like a good weapon design

@fusrosandvich3738

2 жыл бұрын

Port over the MVM rage building bar code, so dealing damage builds a meter, but make it so when it's full the heavy completely drops his rev slowdown and gains 30% more movespeed on top of that.

@benjaminbarraza8972

2 жыл бұрын

I like to imagine it as the ripped front part of one of those world war one planes that shoot the bullets from the front where the spinny thing is, after a meter is filled with damage the gun allows you to charge full speed at the enemy

@grundierungtaglich6241

2 жыл бұрын

Doom Eternal

The Heavyknight with a spun up minigun rapidly approaching is honestly terrifying I now want an item for Heavy which thrusts him forwards like that

@thesucc990

2 жыл бұрын

For real, it reminds me of those old speedhacks.

@UmiZoomR

2 жыл бұрын

how can they use shield while shooting minigun though?

@thesucc990

2 жыл бұрын

@@UmiZoomR There is probably a separate keybind to it

@LizordSword

2 жыл бұрын

@@UmiZoomR Russian magic

@badideagenerator2315

2 жыл бұрын

I made a concept for a self-launching heavy melee on r/tf2weaponideas called the knucklethrusters, their stats were: •swinging this melee weapon launches wearer forwards -deals 30 damage to wearer with each swing -45% less primary ammo on wearer. If it was added, heavy could get the base jumper to create a "heavycopter" subclass.

7:41 Oh crap... I'm gonna have to remember that next time I play Randomizer.

9:42 I present to you spyro oh frick

You have to run this experiment again. This looks so fun

@gibustheinfamous

2 жыл бұрын

I want this as a dedicated community gamemode

@lpmatthews7387

2 жыл бұрын

@@gibustheinfamous same

@GewelReal

2 жыл бұрын

it's called a randomizer

@lpmatthews7387

2 жыл бұрын

@@GewelReal it uses some of the mechanics of rando, but why this is different is because you can actually customize loadouts, and thus, not "randomizer"

@guilhermef.cabral8252

2 жыл бұрын

Yep This needs to be a community server, the thing I would also add is weapon ban, randomly or voted by player Basically removing a weapon from being used in the game can change the entire meta of it

imagine how extraordinary these metas would be if you built a completely new game with the idea of 'any class can use any weapon' in mind, in no other game would you have a tank class practically teleport into the enemy's face and unload lead point blank or a very mobile glass cannon with a flamethrower outright flambé an entire team

@timelordsheep4413

2 жыл бұрын

Considering the meta is rocket launcher or flamethrower scouts I'm pretty sure they just re-invented Quake

@rogainegaming6924

2 жыл бұрын

It would be so extraordinarily difficult to balance that most attempts wouldn't be able to do it properly.

@oreo1749

2 жыл бұрын

2042 designers figuring out how to most efficiently ruin the game, colorized

@Kaiserboo1871

2 жыл бұрын

@@timelordsheep4413 fitting if you ask me

I would vomit, shit, piss, all at the same time if a heavy came flying at me revving the brass beast

scout with a flamethrower is just terrifying

This was a delight to watch. Solar steamrolling and terrorizing the server with heavyknight was the funniest shit ever

I would love to see a tournament with this plugin, but with a highlander clause to prevent scout rush and a teamwide "use it to lose it" rule (if one player uses a weapon, no players on that team can use it for the set) to prevent teams from picking the same OP loadouts every round.

@kellymountain

Жыл бұрын

insanity

@panetoneninjacanal2692

Жыл бұрын

​@@kellymountain perfection

Years ago, there was a community server i used to frequent that would occasionally run a plugin allowing you to select any weapon on any class. My favorite was always minigun scout. similar to the charge n targe heavy you mentioned, but with double jump and no charge cooldown. I actually did mess with direct hit scout a bit, but i was never effective enough with the direct hit to make it as much fun.

Sitting here imagining more meme loadouts and what a shakeup this would be for MVM. For one, the Huo Long might actually pose a threat to the Brass Beast's dominance if heavy could set things on fire himself. Or you could banner stack with heavies. Added bonus: Also apply this to the robots with custom waves. You could do some evil shit, like extended backup Heavies with sniper rifles.

Scout with the direct hit + gunsligner and backup for extra health is just Quake. Like you are literally just playing quake at that point.

@Flesh_Wizard

2 жыл бұрын

We've come full circle

Gunslinger scout is scary but I truly wouldn't want to meet an eyelander scout with 4 heads.

@gladoseon4117

2 жыл бұрын

Only problem is getting them, but you can just run bazaar bargain and then switch loadouts to keep the heads

I wish there were active servers like this still :(

Some great findings here. Would have been interested to see something like a spy with a sniper rifle and jetpack

@tappajaav

9 ай бұрын

Jetpack is practically useless when you can use stickyjumper/rocketjumper

Yes, the ultimate loadout: Pomson 6000 Dalokohs Bar The Pain Train

@yosefyonin6824

2 жыл бұрын

loadout not shitty enough. choclate bar should be repalced with the Rightous Bison Pain tran should be replaced with the Boston Basher or Fan'o'War

@aaronking2020

2 жыл бұрын

@@yosefyonin6824 on soldier

@arken2583

2 жыл бұрын

@@aaronking2020 No, no. On heavy because slowest class.

@weewoogee

2 жыл бұрын

@@aaronking2020 demo

@tappajaav

2 жыл бұрын

@@arken2583 On sniper. Low health pool and no real reason to opt for him with unlimited weapon choices

HeavyKnight may just be the scariest thing I’ve ever seen in the game

I just recently got a plugin working that allows any class to pick up any weapon from the ground. While making it, I had questions as to whether it would be too unbalanced since I had seen this video before - what if a scout picked up a direct hit? Or a spy could cloak with stickies? But it turns out that, since you can die pretty easily and often in tf2, you would always die before you got too big for your britches and lose the weapon. Even if you did go on a good killstreak, it wouldn't be too hard for lots of people to rush you and kill you, since they only needed to kill you once before you lose your advantage. Not to mention you need to find a good weapon in the first place. You can equip a weapon on one class, killbind, and switch classes, but with respawn times it becomes not worth it and simply unfun to be waiting upwards of 30 or 40 seconds each death. I know this doesn't have much to do with the video, but I figured it's tangential enough to write down. The difference between choosing what you want and finding what you want is a lot bigger than I first thought, and it really cast a light on how huge death is as a balancing tool.

0:05 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SCOUT TOUCHED SASHA NOONONONONO

@goldngamer1365

Жыл бұрын

Don't worry heavy he probably won't be able to carry it! I mean Sasha's heavier than hi- *Scout starts drinking Bonk*

7:28 The way the pyro holds the knife actually looks so cool

I ended up having a lot of fun as Scout with the Flamethrower/Degreaser, Medigun, and Jag. I just really enjoy being a team player and I felt that load out really suited my playstyle and was very fun (even got a few kills on ya 😋) Thanks for the opportunity to try this stuff out! It was a lot of fun

Nothing can stop you. The level 3 sentry hiding in the corner with the Engi and his widowmaker:

I had nightmares of a heavy being able to charge and now I know why

This is the scariest thing I've ever seen, but I love that so many classes are just floating instead of walking because I guess they lack animations for their loadouts

I'm so sad I missed out on this experiment because of my broken computer. This looks awesome.

@supahcomix

2 жыл бұрын

There’s constantly servers up that do this same thing

@Supertimegamingify

2 жыл бұрын

@@supahcomix I never find many people on randomiser servers, but yeah. None of theme run this specific plugin, as far as I know.

@supahcomix

2 жыл бұрын

@@Supertimegamingify i played once, spy with rocket launcher is fun

Eureka Effect Spy actually seems like a fun idea. Kind of like a reward for teamwork.

I remember playing a randomizer server when I first started playing TF2. Scout with the rocket launcher was top tier so it's no surprise. Even Heavy with the rocket launcher was alright. Additional speed or health with the rocket launcher makes it quite powerful. Having scout speed and close-to-soldier health makes a lot of sense for a top tier loadout.

From playing randomizer I actually guessed the most op loadout. Direct hit and banner on scout were insane there

My personal favourite was running booties/targe with the YER on scout since getting a backstab still disguised you no matter which class you use it on

@zesomeone4078

2 жыл бұрын

Omg. A scout with YER that backstabs another scout. Enemies should avoid to spycheck you since you're a scout running at normal speed... Oh god

I actually remember thinking about this in class and now I have an answer. Thanks.

you could do the ultimate regen build if u played medic with amputator and cozy camper, youd regenerate upwards of 10hp per second, it would also completely outheal any afterburn, interesting video man, wish i couldve been there

Wish I could have been there, that sounds fun. I would tried the medic knight: bootlegger, tide tuner, and bushwacka for changing its mini crits into crits. It would be like the old tide tuner before it got nerfed with better run speed and passive healing

@boa_firebrand

2 жыл бұрын

I'd have tried scout with a demoknight build but a spy knife of some sort probably big earner

the dream i've been having for years has finally come true, every class having access to other class kits i don't mean that like i was hoping for it or something, i mean i literally keep having dreams where tf2 classes can use weapons from other classes. i get one every year or so, even though i haven't really played tf2 since around 2012

@karlbischof2807

2 жыл бұрын

wtf, thats crazy

@bogdanrab1350

2 жыл бұрын

This gamemode has existed for years. There's a lot of servers up and running. I hope you will have fun on them!

@BonkBro

2 жыл бұрын

@@bogdanrab1350 what are they?

@bogdanrab1350

2 жыл бұрын

@@BonkBro its called randomizer

@AgentMk07

2 жыл бұрын

@@bogdanrab1350 but that's not fun, and it's mostly broken

IMAGINE SEING A HEVY CHARGING AT YOU WITH A SWORD AND A SHIED,TEREFYING!