One thing about this machine that is truly surprising, is just how small the teeth are. There's a well established theory as to how the tooth divisions were marked out, but employing that process to mark out multiple wheels has forced me to question whether it can reasonably be applied to the Antikythera Mechanism. So in this video I propose an alternative process of wheel division, using only the non precision tools of the period. Please enjoy!

@MaxMakerChannel

7 жыл бұрын

How do you not get overwhelmed by knowing that you got to cut so many gears by hand? Or are you going to use the lathe for the rest?

@Anenome5

7 жыл бұрын

I've been wondering about this problem ever since watching your Antikythera series, blessed closure! Thank you!

@keatontaylor3612

7 жыл бұрын

I would think that it would be absolutely amazing if you have academia reconsidering their current theories as a result of your build. I know that others have endeavored to rebuild this machine, but your approach shows that you're putting a great deal of thought into the practicality of the creation. Keep up the good work, the creation of the device and the history you're actively engaging in is inspiring.

@23chaos23

7 жыл бұрын

well when you consider the forfathers of math and geometry were Greeks and we know they had a very deep understanding of geometry, and could consistently mark out the complex angles with just compasses and over lapping circles of varied sizes. and for the makers of the device to already have the skills and knowledge to produce it then it would be insane to think they didnt have their own device for dividing gears used in producing other devices that lead them to making the antikythera mechanism, the people involved must have been early clock makers in order to develop the skills and technology used in its creation. One does not simply wake one day and build something out of thin air without the knowledge, resources and infrastructure needed to make it. so i think you are well justified in your assumptions of the tools they may have used

@simonsieber5779

7 жыл бұрын

Quick question....did the ancient greek have files? what did they use instead?

I'm starting to get the feeling you might actually finish this thing! ;) excellent as always, and I think you're spot on with what you propose -- if it were me, after having laid out and cut the first small gear, I know I'd be looking for alternatives and fast!

@Clickspring

7 жыл бұрын

Definitely! Cheers mate :)

@macf4426

6 жыл бұрын

_'This Old Antikythera',_ I'd watch that series 😀

@anguskong5132

4 жыл бұрын

Work on your bike or something..

I'm entirely convinced by your argument. We like to apply our modern standard to the artisans of the past, and then it becomes easier to dismiss incredibly complex procedural advancements as implausible. Simply put, clever people will always find ways around the technological limitations of the day. Naturally, we are biased to think of now as "better," or more "advanced," simply because we're here. Tomorrow, we'll have yet another new advancement, and it may reduce another piece of tedium, but it will only be an improvement to our method- and not to us. We didn't always have a button for π. Archimedes used the method of exhaustion. It worked.

I think the dividing plate is a likely tool for someone to come up with in that time period. Who ever built the mechanism did this type of work daily and not as a one of for someone who asked for it. Working daily for years in any trade will inspire a craftsman to make tools to make his work easier,the same way it has forced you to consider alternative ways to approach a problem. Awesome work,I enjoy this series very much

A perfect example that the beauty in engineering isn't just in the aesthetics, you really do have a gift and your videos are beautifully crafted too.

Actuually, during the ancient times in Greece there were magnifying lenses made from naturally occurring quartz crystal. They would first chip away the crystal to the approximate shape of the lens and then rub it against larger stones to bring it to the final shape. I have seen such lenses in many museums in Greece and many of them are still in working condition and generally pretty clear.

@TomE1248

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds expensive

@thomasrogers8239

2 жыл бұрын

That's true but it doesn't account for the benefits of jigging nor does it account for the need for precision tools.

@myguitardidyermom212

2 жыл бұрын

It's crazy how much we already had figured out, even if crudely

@Margaret.Thatcher.

Жыл бұрын

In the Idaean cave in the 80s two crystal lenses were discovered and contextualised to be from the time of the Antikythera mechanism, other bronze Age lenses from the palace of Knossos in Crete dated from 1400 B.C have been discovered. Sure, lenses would have been time consuming, or potentially unnecessary instruments to produce for use by the craftsman, but inferring the Antikythera mechanism had great significance to those who commissioned/used the machine, it may be reasonable to assume the maker had such technologies at their disposal. Especially considering the craftsman could potentially have had access to such lenses as the island of Antikythera neighbours Crete. Who knows. Great video as always.

@TOMMYLIVSEY-in1du

2 ай бұрын

@ Margaret.Thatcher I thought you had experience with iron not brass

Have you considered making an actual paper or essay about this? Pretty sure insights like those in this video would get published, especially from such a novel angle.

@PaulMurrayCanberra

7 жыл бұрын

KZread videos might very well be the best medium for this type of thing. It might be nice for an archaeological journal to link here.

@gromann

7 жыл бұрын

Paul Murray it would be fascinating to hear someone who is an expert on ancient Greece and their technologies weighing in on matters like this

@TheMetalButcher

7 жыл бұрын

I'm with Paul. If only scientific journals were 1/10 this clear and concise college papers would be a lot easier.

@NatePrikkel

7 жыл бұрын

If my optics or electromagnetism classes were as clear as this, I'd have a 4.0

@Phyde4ux

7 жыл бұрын

This videos contribution to the greater body of knowledge on the topic is easily the framework from which an academic thesis could be made.

I am a master machinist and I will tell you few people have earned my respect like you have - especially in the way you work with simple tools to achieve such results. And Thank for your passion!!!

@Clickspring

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much for the kind words Craig, much appreciated :)

I love that you took the time to make a dedicated straight-edge for the markings. Shows your magnificent attention to detail.

@samkeen

7 жыл бұрын

Ignaz Kevenaar agreed, and the practicality of marking out the ring numbers made it really satisfying

@dm8264

7 жыл бұрын

Yea, that section was soothing to my OCD.

@timothyball3144

4 жыл бұрын

Yeas. And even his tools are beautiful. Heck, the tools he uses to make tools are beautiful.

My sunday morning is realy starting out great , watching a clickspring video.

i didn't read all 740+ comments so somebody else may have said this but a huge benefit this would present is the ability of the "master" designer to offload repetitive tasks to apprentices. suddenly you go from having to do almost 40 gears yourself to making sure the apprentice can accurately use a jig you made and follow instructions, allowing you to focus on tasks which require your skill and knowledge while simply checking the gears for fit and finish later.

one has to wonder why youtube doesn't recommend videos like this instead of the dumb "viral" crap hogging all the views. This is a brilliant channel, and i love every video that has been put on it.

Well, that jig is just genius. I always marvel at how people came up with such things and here I am so proud of myself just figuring out that if something's too small to see with the naked eye, you just scale it up and work from there.

I'm in hospital recovering from two surgeries over the past days and have been binge-watching your clock-making series since. And just as I finished it a new video popped up :) Wonderful timing Chris and thanks for making my stay so much more bareable :) You're one hell of an artist!

@CSAN33

7 жыл бұрын

Mario Good luck with the recovery bro

@MarioMayer

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much mate!! Really appreciate it

@nigelft

6 жыл бұрын

Having spent three weeks in hospital after a major spinal op, the first totally confined to bed (including a bout of peritonitis ...) I can well imagine the tedium you went through ... sadly, this was pre-internet ... so I slowly was going mad ... Hope you have fully recovered, and back home, with no serious complications ...

@rojirrim7298

5 жыл бұрын

Hey man, how did those surgeries go? Hope you're alright 1 year after them :)

This is what happens when a master tool maker makes a tool to make a tool to make a tool etc.

you are an extremely clever dude...I love your work/videos... there is something about watching you work I find soo therapeutic and I'm always exited when you release a new video... I've literally watched all of your vids

@393strokedcoupe

7 жыл бұрын

II MODERN II Yes, this guy seriously makes me rethink my own perceived intelligence! Very therapeutic indeed!

@michagrill9432

7 жыл бұрын

II MODERN II same 😀

@zeevo

6 жыл бұрын

I just feel like crying... this guy is a giant...

You need to be a public educator. This project is worth a PhD, no question.

As if recreating the mechanism alone isn't enough, every step you are trying to recreate the PROCESS. I am beyond impressed. Thank you for sharing this.

Your creativity in solving the issues that come up in a build like this is very impressive. Great work. I cant wait to see the completed unit.

Cris, I love this series! It's one thing to wander through a museum and dream how these things or done, or have a docent/professor explain it, but your videos are a delightful alternative.

@Clickspring

7 жыл бұрын

Terrific to have you watching John :)

Clickspring is my favorite on KZread. I tell as many people about this channel as I can; and I love explaining this mechanism to people as well. The history and wonder is great! As well as the craftsmanship! ❤❤

Always impressive work on your videos! Loved the geometric aspect of this one! Thanks for sharing!

Clickspring, I've just recently discovered your channel, and I am enjoying it so much. I have always admired the antikythera mechanism and wanted to know more about it. Thank you so much for these videos!

I really appreciate the care you put into making your shop-made tools looking nice in addition to being functional

Sunday morning and another video. Great!

Outstanding workmanship and thought process. This is a wonderful channel to watch and this project one of the best that I've seen in many years! Well worth the recognition!

You produce some of the most interesting videos I have ever seen. The quality of your work, attention to detail, and methods used truly boggle the mind. Also the production quality of your videos are second to none. My hats off to you sir, and thank you for making these videos.

I tell every friend I got about your channel brother. There's nothing quite like it on KZread and I can't tell you how awesome these videos are! Everything is pleased so well it is such a delight to behold. Thanks again man keep up the great work!!

Man, I am never anything less than captivated and impressed when I watch one of your videos. Even having no idea what machine you are talking about just watching you meticulously reproduce ancient technology and the precision you can achieve and how steady your surgeon like hands are at making those parts by hand is nothing short of mind blowing. I have trouble drawing a straight line even using a ruler so watching someone with as much talent is just awe inspiring. Thanks for also taking the time to film and produce KZread videos showing us and possibly teaching us a thing or two.

As this continues to build, I'm left in awe of the ancients workings. You have opened many eyes into this project which has again left me in awe of your work. Brilliant 👍🏼😊

really enjoying your channel! Despite religiously watching about 15 channels yours is the first and only one I have decided to back on patreon! Thanks and keep up the great work!

I love watching your videos as the technique you are demonstrated can be used in other applications. Keep up the fantastic work. cheers mate

Your craftsmanship is amazing

To say that I am impressed with your patience, your meticulous attention to detail, your ability to explain things and your skills would be a gross understatement.

I love how not only do you step through every step of the process, but you also explain how they would have accomplished it. Also, telling us the uncertainties in the design are really cool! Keep up the great work!

Amazing as always, new Clickspring video is always exciting :)

Chris! Amazing project. Wishing you lot of strength over the coming months. Huge respect!

I loved your build series of the clock, but what I love most about you and your channel is when you can't fully do a task, you proceed to build your own tools, such an inspiration.

As always Chris - your patience and precision is amazing. Thanks for sharing.

Amazing video as always! Thank you for taking the time to make them!

Awesome video, Chris! I love the attention to detail and extreme craftsmanship.

Once again you seem to have brilliant solutions to these problems along with great skill with the file. Fascinating. Regards.

The handcraft behind these projects are insane!!! Awesome, great work! I love your videos, very informative. Thanks for sharing.

What impresses me even more than your already very impressive skills, is your patience. I don't think i can even begin to fathom the amount of patience one would need to do what you do, and as is with your skills, i also lack the patience to do anything like this which is why your videos are so interesting, they allow me to share the experience without sacrificing the countless hours to do it. Thank you for sharing this with us.

this is simply incredible, the effort you put into your projects. I sometimes wonder whether the internet is more education or distraction. your videos make me forget all the distracting stupid bs out there and make me really really glad to live right now and to have access to such incredible content. there are no words to express my gratefulness to you! thank you!

@Clickspring

6 жыл бұрын

Terrific to have your support mate :)

Man. You are just, amazing. My brain can't even comprehend that fine of a level of detail. Excellent excellent work! I like that your fastidiousness also shows in your video editing.. it really makes your work "pop"! Cheers

Awesome as always! Excellent critical thinking on the subject as well! Soo look forward to the rest of this series and how exciting what you are fostering is! Thank you!

How proud your children will be of you :) Thank you again for your marvelous job and hard effort.

Chris, with this Antikythera project, not only do you provide us with great entertaining and educational content, as usual, and build from scratch a beautiful and unique project. By documenting the building process of such a relevant artefact, with so much detail and in publicly available audiovisual media, you're also making a great contribution to the study of history and, by extension, to the knowledge of mankind. I hope you're aware of that.

This is amazing and I cannot get enough of these complex tasks completed with simple tools.

Really enjoyed this video - the simplicity combined with the accuracy of the dividing jig really pushes this engineers buttons!

Cheers, Chris! As per usual, you've delivered a beautifully presented work of art which I thoroughly enjoyed.

Interesting speculation. I think the greeks could have started with their dividers and gone up to dividing plates. There is another way to divide. Wrap a strip of paper around a cylinder and cut it so it is an exact fit. Now divide your strip into N equal intervals. This is done by projecting another strip with the divisions onto our original strip. Wrap the strip back on the cylinder and transfer the marks. This was a method taught in colleges when there was no CAD at all. It is more accurate and much faster than the walking divider method. Who knows. Maybe they made dividing plates by the strip method and then used plates to mark as you did. Lovely project. I've been reading up on Antikythera and I think it is properly an orrery.

Everything you do just reeks quality and precision. I love it.

And the day is 1000x better. Keep going man!

Your video and all the elements are as beautifully, intricately made as are your crafted thoughts and tools. Bravo for such a delightful watch. Amazing new thoughts and I'll love to see the developments and advance your ideas as you continue.

I was wondering what the flat surface on the center pin in the diving table was for, seeing that ruler lay flat against it was surprisingly satisfying. That is one beautiful gear you made.

@MaxMakerChannel

7 жыл бұрын

Martin Tandrup I wonder how he machined it to the exact centre.

@sjwsbetaskiller6218

7 жыл бұрын

Define (quantify) "exact"...

@MaxMakerChannel

7 жыл бұрын

Martin Tandrup: So that the length of the flat equals the diameter of the rod.

@CorwynGC

7 жыл бұрын

One easy way, measure the diameter with calipers (or micrometer), remove material until the remaining piece is 1/2 that, as also measured with calipers. I suspect Clickspring has a set of calipers accurate to 1/10,000th of an inch.

@MaxMakerChannel

7 жыл бұрын

But that would be trial and error and too easy.

I have been pondering making an accurate dividing wheel from scratch and if it could be done for some time. Your site is an excellent resource. I am surprised I've only just found it given past searches. Glad I have found it and look forward to learning from you. Thank you for sharing.

very interesting, loving the depth you are going into explaining and theorising on the original construction methods :D

Fascinating and therapeutic all rolled into one entertaining video, many thanks for these.Lots more gear teeth to hand file yet !

WOW! mind blown..such level of detail,and skill.

Faxcinating as always. I think my heart skips a beat when I see that a new video has been posted!

Awesome. That jig is very ingenious. This video series show how far you can go with simple hand tools. Keep up the good work. I really look forward to watching your videos. Man, those ten minutes and forty nine seconds really went fast.

Dude.... your video editing, camera work, craftsmanship, knowledge on machining subject matters, narrating are all top quality. i haven't even finished watching the video. i've been a subscriber since a little bit before your clock project and i gotta say, keep up the good work and well done mate. mashallah.

an incredibly simple solution to a complex problem. impressive sir! keep it love. love these videos.

I can't imagine the amount of work off camera that this thing takes. Nice work!

You sir. Are the most patient and skilled Aussie I have ever seen. Keep up the good work. From a heavy plate welder. I really enjoy watching this👍👍

@Clickspring

7 жыл бұрын

Terrific to have you watching Rhys :)

+Clickspring .. I have to admit that your videos are simply awe inspiring. Your videos has been a considerable factor for me to take a machinist apprenticeship instead of a straight up engineering degree. Best decision ever! keep up the fantastic work you do!

Brilliant work. I love the way you are breaking down the thought process of how this astonishing mechanism may have been made. I say "may" have been made but your reasoning seems very sound. Going to take a trip to the Patreon page. Looking forward to seeing the next video.

every video blows me away, your content is very captivating.

wonderful, simple and very logical approach. Ancient Greeks also had Heron's Pantograph, a device that used large scale templates to accurately copy/reproduce smaller duplicates.

I'd like to take the time to congratulate you, you've truly become my hero in machining-related stuff, I admire your work so much.

Sir, you are an artisan in your hobby, so satisfying to watch you work and a joy to listen to your narration, newly subscribed I'm happy to learn more at my age from such a person. Thank you for your efforts and showing me what can be done in a simple way.

NEED more videos! love your series. watched every video at least 3 times each waiting on next episode

I'm in awe everytime I watch one of your videos

you know Chris, there are times i look at your channel hoping to see the latest video and sometimes I'm ashamed to say I'm frustrated there isn't one and wonder why, then suddenly there is a new video and i watch it and think "now i know why its taken so long" when i see the level of detail and research you are putting into this build, as with the clock build I am enjoying the process of building the tools required to make the parts for the mechanism as much as the build itself! Thank you again Chris for letting us into your shop and watching a master of his craft at work!

Chris...your workshop Nobility man! No question about it, never seen such tenacious and relentless pursuit of the perfect whatever it is I'm making right now!!!!!

That was incredible, I always wanted to learn how to make gears, and this has just blown my mind.

This series is riveting. An absolute gem.

The mind boggles... I am almost speechless. Beautiful!!!

Really really fantastic quality of work in this video, and the others from this channel. The practical act of attempting to build this mechanism will surely throw up many more discoveries, and i feel is an important bit of research which i hope historians are incorporating into their view of how these ancient artefacts were made. Superb workmanship, production values and intelligence went into this , thank you very much, extremely enjoyable and informative.

@Clickspring

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much Paul, terrific to have you watching :)

Thanks Chris, really enjoying this

always in awe of your projects!

@Clickspring

7 жыл бұрын

Cheers Michael :)

At 5:27 I thought to myself "I'm going to need a few moments to reassure myself how that works in theory, but I know Chris will confirm that it works in practice, so I can already celebrate its brilliance ! That's a phenomenally sweet, and also elegant, way to solve an apparently intractable problem. Kudos, kudos, and kudos.

Jesus you did a ton of work for this video. Thank you so much for this incredibly interesting content!

Your videos are sooooo amazing! I love how it all fits in with Greek mathematics of the period.

that dividing plate and straight edge, is more beautiful that most things i've done! i just love your work!

Thanks Chris for your work, I do enjoy your accomplishments very much. Such wow, much pleasure for the eyes!

Amazing. I expect that this is only one of many ancient machines that were produced so one has to believe that the mind that conceived this device also developed a similar method for marking the wheels. Great work Chris. Always wonderful.

Another a bit of quality content,loving it!

Another amazing video! Not just building the mechanism but always thinking how it may have been constructed originally. Can't wait for the next instalment.

Incredible, perfect start to my day.

Nice and interesting angle on the marking method! Cool!

Beautiful work and techniques showed are mind blowing.

As an architecture student obsessed with craft, my mind is blown with every new video of yours! Your dedication to your craft is immensely inspiring!

the video just started and I'm already excited!

Your job is absolutely fantastic. Keep it up !

My jaw is frequently open watching the genius of Chris and just pure elegance of his approach and thinking.

Historians and archaeologists can speculate pretty accurately on how things were made, but it takes someone actually trying it to see why things would or wouldn't work. Really love the content, as a CNC machinist it can be easy to let computers and automation do the hard thinking, so it's always great to watch Chris work

Brilliant, as always, Chris!