I've always wondered why I feel such deep affinity for Russians, and I think Anna nailed it with this: "Russians are optimists masquerading as cynics; Americans are cynics masquerading as optimists."

@jzen1455

3 ай бұрын

I like how they rarely victimize themselves and take accountability for their actions. They rarely whine and get what needs to be done without excessive yapping drama.

@Abcdefg-tf7cu

Ай бұрын

​@@jzen1455 I can already tell that you have a huge victim complex and have never taken responsability for anything. Anyone who goes on self righteous screeds about "the victim mentality" and "personal responsability" is like that. You just project your weak, childish, lazy, irresponsible mentality onto the left. And it is always the left that you people whine about.

Eric...you kinda lost me for an episode or two...but this here is pure gold. Anna is some top-shelf millennial reflectionism. Well chosen guest, good dialogue.

@Captain_MonsterFart

4 жыл бұрын

@Chad Canada I don't, so do tell!

@helveticalouie

4 жыл бұрын

@Chad Canada damn Agent Smith 😂 let him go

@tophan5146

4 жыл бұрын

Two last episodes were incredible

@jonfranks1642

4 жыл бұрын

@Chad Canada well come on creepy internet stranger, who?!

@Charlie-zp2se

4 жыл бұрын

@David McCarthy explain please

EW: "This is a three-dimensional projection of a four-dimensional convex polytope..." AK: "OK." EW: "And, I find it transcendent." AK: "Uhuh."

They’re bringing to life so many thoughts that bounce around in my head only as half baked feelings and intuitions.

"I reject that hypothesis" is a useful phrase to pull out at times.

@fuhq5121

4 жыл бұрын

Only if you actually know other more useful phrases.

@pistolen87

4 жыл бұрын

@@fuhq5121 - "The earth is flat" - "I reject that hypothesis" Feels like an appropriate time for example. Not all ideas/arguments are worthy to take seriously.

@jasoncharles8651

4 жыл бұрын

@@pistolen87 yes they are. It's the time you put in.

@fallingintofilm

3 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of when David Deutsch told Sam Harris on his podcast - “You made 2-3 points there, and all of them are wrong”

The Portal is really hitting its stride. Thank you for doing this Eric.

@Highdealist

4 жыл бұрын

I love plants

@tingtingshiny2877

4 жыл бұрын

@@Highdealist me too. I water such seed :-D. J/K . I typed Jessus in search bar and found the W in einstein.

@peterball3079

4 жыл бұрын

Yes indeed

@questioneverything4120

4 жыл бұрын

@David McCarthy Explain? I doubt it but some leads could make your claim sensicle

@goproengineers

3 жыл бұрын

David McCarthy what do you mean?

This is peak podcasting. I feel like I'm nearly smoking crack.

Anna is the kind of person that will take down this social justice movement.

@georgewatts6221

4 жыл бұрын

I think you're wrong.

@Skimatik_DnB

4 жыл бұрын

Nicholas Fevelo do you not think that maybe all movements are just a finger pointing at the fact we haven’t got it right yet ?? I’m not about utopia but I am about balance ☯️✌️

@dabartos4713

4 жыл бұрын

Anna is the kind of person people tend to use the DeMurro phrase on.

@6teezkid

3 жыл бұрын

Nicholas Fevelo - So right!! Wow, what an unusual person she is. Can't WAIT to get to her podcast!

@skaterdude14b

3 жыл бұрын

Her superpower is that she *looks* like she would do that

My favorite line from the interview: "Just because god is dead doesn't mean you should get your septum pierced and cover yourself with tattoos."

@jonahwoodward3623

3 жыл бұрын

Mine is "going whole hog with Buttigieg"

@johnjungkook2721

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonahwoodward3623 "He signs an NDA before sex"

@Jules-Is-a-Guy

3 жыл бұрын

Eric "I was gonna write this book about Marie Curie called Radium Slut" Weinstein

@swcordovaf

7 ай бұрын

“…Motherhood, the most noble and wonderful work on the planet…”. The bedrock of this conversation that translates into fundamental improvement in our culture.

@jarrodanderson2124

6 ай бұрын

here you are with all 3

Great episode. Watch Eric pretty regularly but somehow missed this one. Came over after seeing her on Tim Dillon.

@cielecelestine3469

3 жыл бұрын

Same.

@RUSEOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

Same.

@optimisticbear9617

3 жыл бұрын

Same lol

@nabeshin345

3 жыл бұрын

Same 😔

@tara741

3 жыл бұрын

Yess!!

This guest is quite fascinating.

@goudafeta2165

4 жыл бұрын

hot af

@chemicalimbalance7030

4 жыл бұрын

Joe Fletcher I would

@dsm5d723

4 жыл бұрын

Sadly, the only brosponse is the Reddit monetizable sort. Indeed, the podcast (that damn Neo-Lib Sleep Pod commercial is like a fucking coffin, so I cannot say 'pod' in good conscience) makes me laugh harder than just about anything else out there. A Handmaidens Tradding Places would be a good film parody, don't you think? Rather than old white stock market tycoons, it's mid managerial Cuntocrats making a 1 Bit$ bet on which womb they can appropriate, with which seed. The bathroom scene would be priceless. Cash App and phones instead of a dollar bill. Quick, b/f Eddie Murphy gets too old. Can he do drag?

@oscarlohens8586

4 жыл бұрын

@David McCarthy Take your haldol.

Thanks for having Anna on, and bring her back for more!

Anna Khachiyan somehow managed to make Eric look cool. That's magic. Thanks, both of you :)

@Captain_MonsterFart

4 жыл бұрын

Eric's super cool by default.

@borisknapp9911

4 жыл бұрын

Hey! Eric is f***ing cool! But I get what you're saying. I love it when someone brings out his boy-ish side.

@helveticalouie

4 жыл бұрын

Eric is cool when he's playful and free-flowing, but less so when he's adulting and serious 😂

@prose217

4 жыл бұрын

It takes a real woman to bring out the truest version of a good man

@jcrossi56

4 жыл бұрын

BalkanEcologyProject Not sure 'cool'- lucky to be there yeah- hell ya

That kind of conversation makes me happy just by knowing it has happened.

Can I just say, I love that the episode's descriptions have a non-redundant quality that enriches the episode rather than being something you don't have to read if you've watched the video?

Damn, really pumping out the content. This has been one of my favorites, I could watch this for many more hours.

What an excellent woman.

@aZeddPrattFilm

4 жыл бұрын

Maizy T SAME

Great interview....she has a beautiful voice and a great mind

Fantastic. Thank you for introducing me to the Red Scare podcast.

Russian named half Spanish here, much appreciated those words, Eric. And ''what makes Spain economically inviable is what makes it morally redeemable" is SPOT ON.

I find it completely insane that I'll think I have no time to watch a movie but I'll happily listen to a 5 hour podcast or I'll binge a whole series on Netflix. I feel that in terms of say podcasts and audiobooks its a primal form of art that harkens back to tribal storytelling.

@helveticalouie

4 жыл бұрын

You heart and your brain knows what's nutritious to you, and seek them out, whether it's mentally stimulating podcast full of eye opening ideas or a restful zone out time to binge Netflix, you get to choose to fit yourself. Unlike movies that were created to maximise profit from the collectivist idea of an average man ironically less and less average men finds appealing according to box office numbers 😂

@MIKE_THE_BRUMMIE

4 жыл бұрын

@@helveticalouie Damn good point

@ghy518

4 жыл бұрын

For me, listening to podcasts has a soothing, almost childlike quality to it. Especially if I feel like I “know” either one of the speakers, listening to them speak without feeling the expectation or need to respond puts me in a receptive position similar to that of a kid within earshot of a self-aware conversation my parents would have with friends

@MIKE_THE_BRUMMIE

4 жыл бұрын

@@ghy518 Awesome analogy man. My favourite thing now days is listening to a podcast on my way to work. Ass crack of dawn no one on the road and just something to get my mind going.

@questioneverything4120

4 жыл бұрын

@@MIKE_THE_BRUMMIE Imagine a world without all this convenient stuffs? Would be quite boring huh?

A glimpse of what the discussion about feminism and masculinity could be like. I did not expect to actually be intrigued by this particular topic. These podcasts are great Eric. Aptly named indeed. Peace and love from Scandinavia.

You know when you are about o skip over a podcast for the third time, but instead you finally click to check it out. And are rewarded with pure gold. 👍😃

This is the most interesting podcast I've heard in months.

@lolasaint7370

3 жыл бұрын

All the Portal Podcast have been Incredible """

"How is that (Kantian)?" is going on a bumper sticker on the back of my car. Eric is the best 😂😂😂

Great guest. Thoroughly innovative and brilliant conversation

Every episode is a breath of fresh air. Thank you! So many great moments here, but the one that stuck with me is at 36:00 - "Magic happens when people pass power back and forth. If you retain all your power then you don't get to the magic of giving your power to somebody else and having them give you an equal amount of a different kind back. [We] never actually build those super powerful relationships when we're hoarding our power saying 'I'm not going to give anything up.'" ...Yes! In relationships, in business, in the arts, etc.

The entire conversation was gangbusters, but the bit about how the lack of mystique kills libidinal energy and the jag that followed was really pure gold. Amazing episode. More like this please.

I feel improved and developed from pod casts like this one. thank you , thank you than k you

This is a truly fascinating (and dangerous) conversation. I'm grateful to you and your guest for being brave enough to have it.

Thank you, Eric!! Great show - awesome guest! I'm now going to be a "Red Scare" listener/fan. I could've listened to you & Anna another 2 to 3 hours!

Been re watching these and getting more and more each time I watch. Hope to hear the portal again when the time is right!

Was waiting for Eric to say, "Jamie, can you pull that up".

@hazardousjazzgasm129

4 жыл бұрын

Who needs Rogan to be invited anyway? Jamie should be the next guest

This is like the best ever episode of Dr. Katz, Professional Therapist

"Those layers of indirection are essential to a rich life" just stunned me. Anyone else or am I being stupid?

@AlexOfCR

4 жыл бұрын

He's talking about "deep" relationship also being "transactional" but in layers of indirection. Meaning, instead of "I do something for you in direct exchange of you doing something to me, you have I do something for you and some time in the future, maybe, you do something for me, and then we repeat these a million times without anyone keeping track of it, trusting that in the end it will have been an equal give and take.

@Exuma73

4 жыл бұрын

@@AlexOfCR Am I misunderstanding, or is Eric being quite cynical here? It seems like he's saying no matter how deep a relationship is, it is still transactional at its core; those layers of indirection are just there to obscure that fact and help delude us into believing it's something special. Or is it simply the act of not believing it's transactional, yet still remaining invested, the thing that makes it special?

@JonnyRocketfingers7

4 жыл бұрын

@@Exuma73 It's not cynical. The idea is that a relationship composed of incalculable transaction, becomes more than that what we commonly refer to a transaction, because it involves trust in the other person and their character. - Maybe I'm not the best person to define what is an is not cynical, though. I have a pretty deterministic view of the world, and I don't see it as cynical. Maybe you could ask your self, what do you mean by "special?"

@AlexOfCR

4 жыл бұрын

@@Exuma73 far be it for me to say exactly what he means but here's how I understand him (and you tell me if you think I'm right): he's merely pointing out that all relationships are transactional but that those layers of indirections and the trust that they require ARE the very thing that makes relationships special, beautiful and deep. The acknowledgement of them still being transactional is just a way to grant that one is not an idiot for thinking of relationships as such and to then point out that ONLY thinking of them that way - and removing those layers of indirection - robs you of a life with beautiful relationships. Let me also point out that it's been a few days since I listened to this podcast but this is the way I remember perceiving his point.

Commenting in case it helps this video perform better with youtube's algorithms. Excellent talk.

@sophiamanukova2721

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Eric for inviting the most interesting personalities to converse with you. This creates the true picture of today’s America and thanks for keeping the spark of the Russian Culture glowing!

@triton62674

3 жыл бұрын

Inb4 referencing the algorithm invalidates the comment

I love that he can go from physics to literary criticism, Eric is amazing as a podcast host.

I’m just addicted to hearing Anna’s lovely voice on a matter of different subjects.

@lindboknifeandtool

10 ай бұрын

I think her voice is great too, people hate. She also has the most wonderful vocabulary.

@woodstockorientalrugcleani430

4 ай бұрын

Those that hate are impossibly ignorant.

"Trump knows, the Liberal mind is automated, and as soon as you break through one of it's shibeloths, it has an automated non-thinking reflexive reaction, and he can map that. So he can say ok i will do something that will cause the reflexive action but I will put something in place which is totally different so that when you have that reflexive reaction you will be shown to be an NPC" Eric Weinstein

@charlesp7504

4 жыл бұрын

Antony Roberts it’s amazing how incredibly intelligent people can be such horrible judges of character. Such people, instead of recalibrating their perception of judgment, will recalibrate an entire reality construct to reinforce their perceptions. It’s the epitome of blind arrogance. Instead of questioning the data they are fed, they remain absolute that the data they perceived was correct because they stamped it as correct so it must be so.

@antonyroberts4438

4 жыл бұрын

@@charlesp7504 I used to say to our audiences: “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!” Upton Sinclair. The data they parrot comes from the institutions they've respected, if not worshiped, and worked for their entire lives. If they start questioning the source material, some of them they will inevitably start questioning the nature of the institutions, and we all know where this leads. I'd like to believe this is the goal of The Portal podcasts.

@michaelboyd7508

4 жыл бұрын

Completely over thought. The accrediting of genius to Trump's ability to make the left look incompetent is nothing more than the exposure of the weakness of liberal ideology versus the proven success of conservative ideals in the real world of practical application of said ideals in a free society. It's why western conservative nations will always rein supreme over left leaning ones as long as they are led by brave men.

@EvilBeagleWasTaken

4 жыл бұрын

@Johnny Crustacean "We're too caught up in sides and not looking to our brightest minds for guidance" I think this is an incredibly important point in our current era. We have so many brilliant minds available at the touch of a button or a screen, but we'd rather give in to our tribalistic instinct. Nuance and rigorous objective critique is heinously undervalued.

@jdcampbell9613

4 жыл бұрын

What does he mean by NPC there?

Second time through this conversation and man....there is so much here.

when eric tells the advertising thanks for being here, I almost spit my drink out lol

This is a very important one. The fact that Eric wants to have more russian people on is great because I think there's an extreme need for dialogue between russians and americans that's basically nonexistent right now. I hope he sticks to that idea so that we can at least start breaking the ice and communicating despite all the propaganda on both sides. Kudos from Mother Яussia!

4 жыл бұрын

Couldn't hurt....

@questioneverything4120

4 жыл бұрын

I'm realizing something. We somehow have to wake up people the way Neo was woken up in the Matrix? We're all Neo, and Eric is Morpheus!!! In turn, we gotta then be Morpheus for everyone else. They could be the one?

@stormshadowvlad2012

3 жыл бұрын

She’s american

@Kondratbl

3 жыл бұрын

@@stormshadowvlad2012 Well, she was literally born in Moscow, and even though she's spent most of her life in the United States you can clearly see how she hasn't forgotten her Russian roots. It's not about the formal nationality, you see.

@Demention94

3 жыл бұрын

@@stormshadowvlad2012 Is it the way she sips her wine or her intellect?

I have been waiting for the video for this one, thank you! Being of Soviet Jewish descent myself - but not left wing at all- I found her take both familiar and refreshing and not represented in the sjw oppression olympics. Long live Camille Paglia; glad other women are taking her bright light forward.

I liked this guest

@chemicalimbalance7030

4 жыл бұрын

I might even listen to her pod.

@fainitesbarley2245

4 жыл бұрын

She’s a great find. I’m going to look her up.

Spectacular Eric at the Joe level on this one. Breaking the ice with some vino is a step in the right direction and Anna is wonderful to listen to!

Shit she's smart. Thoroughly enjoyed this conversation.

@michaelmoreno7357

4 жыл бұрын

@David McCarthy are you ok? Here if you need someone.

@Sprite_525

4 жыл бұрын

David McCarthy - you’ve been copying and pasting that exact phrase for many different people. Your intelligence is low if you think you can deal with complex diverse people with a simplistic repeated single phrase. This KZread channel is a real community with real people. Deal with us as individuals.

Truly enjoyed this podcast. Think I'll listen to it again tomorrow. Interesting, stimulating, informative- got it all. Thank you.

As an Armenian Kurdish person I am so happy to watch this episode. My best regards from Amsterdam, the Netherlands.

I love, love , love your show. As a young girl, I was very abstract and tremendously interested in physics. My Mother strictly deterred me from that direction, making sure that I knew if I was too smart, I would not get a man. Without a man, you were useless, and no man wants a smart woman. (This was the '60s) I regret that I was afraid to be who I was. I missed out on all this incredible, juicy stuff you're doing/discovering NOW. Thank you for being here !

Damn man you're pumping these podcast out like a crack mill

@ZZFilm

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Eric aught to be arrested slang'n this much crack! 😉😎

@bridge12582

4 жыл бұрын

The videos are late. This has been up on podcast app for awhile. I assume they're just getting around to the vids and putting them all up

@edt6880

4 жыл бұрын

@@bridge12582 London Tsai video caused the delay here - video has some distortion that they tried to correct - couldn't correct - took time to decide whether they should upload that video as is - that caused the backlog

The conversation gets especially good towards the end, I didn’t want it to end.

What a breath of fresh air! Authentic and likable...

Dude you’re on fire great podcast!!!

I love these podcasts.

such a good conversation - thanks Eric / Anna

This was fascinating. Thank you for the great conversation!

These podcast are so UNDERRATED its depressing that it's not as popular as it should be. I try to share it as much as I can.

@zaccrisp9988

4 жыл бұрын

What about this conversation specifically did you enjoy?

@joshi-toshi

3 жыл бұрын

Well it’s on the way up now ! Nearly a year after your comment.

I have a crush on Anna after watching this podcast... she's brilliant and funny.

@aZeddPrattFilm

4 жыл бұрын

John B Seriously the crush-ing is unreal

@DaZugZug

4 жыл бұрын

Yep. Smart and Russian, very hot

@latexbreadmachine3213

4 жыл бұрын

That's disgusting.

@jcrossi56

4 жыл бұрын

John B I hear ya brother

@jcrossi56

4 жыл бұрын

DaZugZug Incredibly so

I've only recently gotten into Anna's stuff, and I'm eternally grateful that she exists. Such a breath of fresh air.

Only halfway through but can already say this is my favorite episode so far. Awesome conversation.

The neglect of motherhood is the greatest sin. I could lead all the ills back to this sin.

@kirstinstrand6292

3 жыл бұрын

I concur...it's everywhere, yet Motherhood is Sainthood. Humanity's Double Bind.

That "Kant-y" vs "Cunty" exchange made my week

@TwelfthRoot2

4 жыл бұрын

haha yeah my exact thought when I heard it was "did she say Kanty or cunty??"

@jcrossi56

4 жыл бұрын

Patrick Landon Lol- was a riot

@jcrossi56

4 жыл бұрын

I in fact heard 'cunty' right away

@Toasted_Toast11

4 жыл бұрын

Lol agreed 😂

Certainly the most personally useful conversations I've heard in a long time, and one of the most generally interesting, too.

Great conversation, this podcast is the real deal! Thank you for a refreshing and delightful conversation; I enjoyed it.!

Is she saying "whamen" Pewdiepie-style consistently?

@sinsquared6940

4 жыл бұрын

yes on purpose

@tomking5290

4 жыл бұрын

Yes Sir, that is correct

@z0uLess

4 жыл бұрын

awesome

@metatron5199

4 жыл бұрын

She's not it's mmhhmmm.... you know the sound ppl use to acknowledge that you are following someone else's speech when in conversation with them.... jeeze talk about hearing what you want to hear and cognitive dissonance smh 🤦‍♂️

@hazardousjazzgasm129

4 жыл бұрын

@@metatron5199 she's been known to spell it as "wammin" on instagram and twitter

Loved the conversation. When will we be discussing possible solutions

This has quickly become my favorite program. Always really, really good content.

@tingtingshiny2877

4 жыл бұрын

Agree they are.

wonderful conversation, thanks very much for sharing it

this was a sensational conversation. thank you, eric, for exposing me to the red scare.

I _LOVE_ your guest, Anna :) She is fun, honest and is not caught up in the sexism war of so many today. I especially appreciated her take on man-splaining as it is cute. Both men and women bring their unique qualities to each other and far too many spend far too much time critiquing the other as a way of molding them into something different. Damn.... that would be boring as hell :)

Great stuff guys! The best one you've put out in awhile.

You have some of the best conversations on-line currently. I am a fan. Thank you. Tip of the spear to cultural influence lets go!!

Thank you Eric, these podcasts are great.

@aniccadance13

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Eric, love the interview..

“Americans are pessimists posing as optimists” 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

Don't know how I missed this one if February, but this was a great conversation. Anna has a new fan in me!

Fantastic conversation!!! What an intelligent and beautiful guest, looking forward to checking out her podcast as soon as I finish this, I am sending this episode to everyone I know. Thanks for the excellent interview with, and 1:06:00, lol, those people definitely don't listen to your podcast That's for sure

Khachiyan and Angela Nagle never fail to deliver as podcast guests. Eric please get Angela on. Listen to her on Russell Brand or Red Scare.

Camille Paglia on the podcast please :)

@6teezkid

3 жыл бұрын

Neal Murfitt - Uh...yes! I'd love to see if Eric could dominate the conversation because he just doesn't allow his guests to do that. Ha!! Eric is in Red Pill territory, but doesn't know it yet. I've predicted the Red Pilling of a few high-profilers. His amazing mind can't possibly stay in the nonsensical gutter with his "soon-to-be former" progressive friends who've seriously gone off into Marxist revolutionary mode. He can't take it any longer. It's going to happen after election night. His brother, Bret, will stay a progressive. I have such high respect for both of them.

@honestexpression6393

3 жыл бұрын

Yesssss!!!

@zacharybrown9741

3 жыл бұрын

I second this!

Thank you for this! Subscribing to this and red scare now!

Amazing stuff. Fell a captive for 2 hours. And it could have continued. More of this.

From now on I'm saying "wemmin".

@user-ux5hp6vp2t

4 жыл бұрын

Mee too

@rulisa1131

4 жыл бұрын

@Gene Dalefield She is. That's how they say iton her podcast too. 😂

@Sprite_525

4 жыл бұрын

Love her meme skills!

@populisttrope9385

3 жыл бұрын

You can thank Pewdipie for that

This woman is the antithesis of what her upspeak and vocal fry indicated she would be at first. Thanks for having her on it was a refreshing dose of unexpected intellectual and human discourse

@ghy518

4 жыл бұрын

An ASMR guy like you must be exceedingly adept at gaining insight into the character of an individual solely based on intonation and vocal drag. What a wonder it is that she so thoroughly overrode your well-programmed audio-personal indicators😹

@will6176

3 жыл бұрын

@@ghy518 It was a comment Eric made .... in the pocast

Super ep. Anna was a great guest. Keep them coming...

This is one of the best podcasts so far.....blown away

I have to say that my brain is still in recovery mode from taking in so many high level, important ideas

Big respect, great discussion

I'm so thankful for you uploading all this amazing content

This is an incredible conversation.

Clearly an elder millenial, we've replaced "aspergian" with "spergy". On a serious note, highest quality analysis of western intersex relationships I've yet to hear/read. Thank you.

"You have to get something right before you can parody it." That brilliantly sums up the Left's failure at humor for the past few years

@gking407

4 жыл бұрын

Humor is relative. If you’re not laughing go find something else.

@Sprite_525

4 жыл бұрын

The left had it right overall. We only laugh at them cuz they got it wrong super recently. Don’t pretend that the right wingers had or have a great track record of accuracy and humor. The right is still pretty filled with humorless religiosity and totally inaccurate retelling a of left wing view. The left has failed and is pushing people right. But the right has its own problems. The pendulum will swing as it always has.

What a profoundly thought provoking discussion. 💫 Love this.

Really entertaining and edifying. Thanks for this!

Heck yeah.... wine and water. I’m intrigued.

God damn I love this show, and I especially love this episode! Great guest, great conversation. So many great insights in this one

Out of the park. Far and away one of Eric's best yet.

Jesus she's thinking on Rogan having a political career? lol. You guys need to take a break from Twitter.

@davidkieltyka9

4 жыл бұрын

Re-listen to the brief reference to meta-honesty. :)

@dang2410

4 жыл бұрын

I like what Rogan has done for podcasting, I still think he's a bone head though.

Anna and Eric are actually wearing the same boots in this interview.

One of your best yet Eric.

Thank you! Putting into words my anxieties about this age so well

At this point, long-form podcast is almost the only content I want to ingest. Twitter doesn't allow for enough deep discussion. TV has 20 minute or 2 hour limits and there's a template, motive and message.