Daily Fail is all of a sudden interested in taxpayers' money. Where was the indignation with the billions Tories gave to their mates and family members during the pandemic in non-tendered contracts via fast lanes?

@weswheel4834

Ай бұрын

But only for this. They're fine with Manchester Police spending time and resources investigating this. Not so worried about taxpayer's money there.

@adambinnie1332

Ай бұрын

​@weswheel4834 How much of the 3rd World do you want yo move to the UK? Taking into consideration that half of world's population live in poverty-3 billion, come on give me a number?

@weswheel4834

Ай бұрын

@@adambinnie1332 Excellent example. When the Tories aren't trying to distract you with SheOnceOwnerACouncilHouseGate, they try to distract you with Dont-Look-At-The-Schools-And-Hospitals-And-State-Of-The-Economy,Look-At-The-Boats. Seriously we've been trying that approach for the last 10 years. Not only is the country more broken than it was before, but it hasn't "fixed" immigration either. Find someone else to listen to.

@weswheel4834

Ай бұрын

@@adambinnie1332 Much longer with this government, and half of this country's population will be living in poverty as well.

@stephenjon3502

Ай бұрын

@@adambinnie1332You should ask that question to any Brexiteer as they are the ones that voted to make the Uk a third country and have no way to send anyone back to anywhere.

The law of propaganda: Identify your own weakness, then claim it as your strength. Or accuse the opposition of exactly what you identified as your own weakness.

@TheySavedSoldeedsBrain

Ай бұрын

Or this truism: When a conservative politician accuses anybody of anything, it's projection every time. They think Raynor tried to cheat her taxes because cheating taxes is all they think about.

@Zionism_is_Antisemetic

Ай бұрын

...sounds like israel through and through

@markdavies1034

Ай бұрын

In other words ~ people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones?

@Smo1k

Ай бұрын

@@markdavies1034 More like the exact opposite: Accuse somebody else for throwing stones until people consider the glass already broken, then start throwing stones, *actually* breaking glass.

Where is MONE and OUR MILLIONS?

@chatham43

Ай бұрын

@copper Stop moaning about Mone..it's getting creepy!

@edwardmaclean-bs7vl

Ай бұрын

Exactly swept under the carpet again labour should not let go of this scandal

@paulwilson7234

Ай бұрын

Valid point.

@brianarmstrong3731

Ай бұрын

Probably in The Bahamas.

@stephenalderton6300

Ай бұрын

How many Angela's?

Oh Carole this is priceless. Can we have a list of what the Tories have cost us in Angela Rayner units.

How many Conservative MPs would stand up to this kind of scrutiny? Many have more than one house and claim expenses for them.

@clivet3252

Ай бұрын

Yes, Cameron and Osborne both flipped their mortgages but that was ignored in 2010. Tony Blair did the same and that was ignored. Stop acting as if it's just the Tories. If we have a chance to get the likes of Rayner out of politics then it's a start.

@user-ir5wq6db8e

Ай бұрын

Boris had to quit over a slice of cake

@weswheel4834

Ай бұрын

@@user-ir5wq6db8e That's not true though, is it?

@clivet3252

Ай бұрын

@@weswheel4834 yes

@jackworsley2562

Ай бұрын

@@user-ir5wq6db8e Eaten in his own office What a farse these people make politics

Test and trace is over 23 million Angela Rayners

@clivet3252

Ай бұрын

It's not about the figures involved, it's the principle. If Angela Rayner is in government then she's dealing with big figures and her personal wealth will go up, just like Tony Blair.

@frankieelen7238

Ай бұрын

I think it was Billions, not millions.....

@bryanpowell8869

Ай бұрын

It's not about money it's about integrity and if you want to be told what to do or somebody who lies to you will then vote for them.

@Alex-cw3rz

Ай бұрын

@@bryanpowell8869 but she didn't l ie

@clivet3252

Ай бұрын

@@Alex-cw3rz how do you know?

The point is it is a distraction for them. They can say yes but what about Angela. It gives their supporters something to throw at critics in the hope it will distract them long enough for them to escape out the back door. I hope it don't work.

It's a malicious attack, they are scared witless of Rayner.

The "Angela Rayner units" thing is genius, shines the light right back at the Tories.

@neilfranklin5644

Ай бұрын

They all got snouts in the trough.

@chrissouthgate4554

Ай бұрын

The only fault with this reasoning is that it borders on "what aboutisum", otherwise spot on. This is the old glasshouses & stones thing.

@michaelshore2300

Ай бұрын

Tories did not want to b an council house sales.

@kyorin6526

Ай бұрын

@@michaelshore2300?

@peter-lr1vi

Ай бұрын

I get her point but it doesn’t make it right! These MPs should be above reproach but because she’s got a gob on her she lined herself up, she should have known better as should all of them!

The Tories accusing *anyone* else of "lying" is beyond sickening hypocrisy.

@evolassunglasses4673

Ай бұрын

She's the hypocrite with her lack of transparency

@redeyegooner

Ай бұрын

@@evolassunglasses4673 Boris Johnson said he "lost the WhatsApp messages when he changed phones." That's not how Whatsapp works and we all know it The Tories can never point fingers at anyone else for dishonesty or fraud. Ever. It's at their core.

@weswheel4834

Ай бұрын

@stuartrussell3490 Which media? A bit on LBC (easily balanced by the other parts on LBC which are pro-Tory)? It doesn't go both ways at all.

@weswheel4834

Ай бұрын

@@evolassunglasses4673 The Mail are hypocrites for screaming when their opponents haven't done anything wrong but they think they can score some points off it (see currygate) and yet very little when the Tories are up to their necks in it.

@weswheel4834

Ай бұрын

@@evolassunglasses4673 Also, seems a bit hypocritical for the Mail to be worried about £1500 in taxes, but happy for Manchester Police to be wasting time and money investigating this. "We've investigate this already." "Are you sure? Do it again!" Same as with currygate.

Always has the facts Carol 👏👏👏👏👏

@chatham43

Ай бұрын

@paul Except the inconvenient ones.😊

@stepearceu2

Ай бұрын

@@chatham43 I'd say this is fairly inconvenient - for the Tories when it's looked at in perspective.

@mikeonfreeserve2926

Ай бұрын

She keeps abreast

The Tories are basically yelling "squirrel" as they continue to take the gold out the back door. Never underestimate the level of outrage they can muster on a misinformed public. Okay I'll say it, "Leave Angela alone!"

@clivet3252

Ай бұрын

She does look a bit like a squirrel.

@musoseven8218

Ай бұрын

Like Tory B.Liar did, that other WEF shill, like Sunak and Starmer 🤔

@chatham43

Ай бұрын

@maxwell She's entitled to a little hypocrisy just like the rest of us! Absolutely!

@maxwellsmart3156

Ай бұрын

@@chatham43 Of course everyone is but in this case where is the hypocrisy?

@chatham43

Ай бұрын

@maxwell Something about a council property she profited from. Again where's the hypocrisy?

£1,500. Peanuts, these days. Tories are really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

@markwelch3564

Ай бұрын

Definitely peanuts when we are talking house prices 😮

@kevlahead7278

Ай бұрын

The figure is irrelevant! Can you imagine Raynor's (And the rest of the left leaning MSM /Parties) reaction had it been a Tory MP?

@philiphaley5414

Ай бұрын

So nicking a grand doesn't matter....

@markwelch3564

Ай бұрын

@@philiphaley5414 not that it doesn't matter, but that it's credible to believe it's an oversight If you paid half the normal rate, nobody would believe you didn't notice anything odd, but you could easily miss 1k in all the large figures that are involved in property sales, especially if all your brokers and agents say everything's ok

@peterspowage5752

Ай бұрын

​@@kevlahead7278The number of Tories and their sponsors who should be investigated and sanctioned, makes Rayner's alleged misdemeanor "small beer." If the right wing media were to go for but a small proportion of these crooks, they'd 😅run out of newsprint. So, it isn't just the amount of money that's relevant, it's the scale of the number of miscreants. The gutter press and, apparently, your obsession with Rayner, is hypocrisy on a grand scale

Doesn’t this just show the immorality of the UK press

@hg82met

Ай бұрын

The gutter press, owned by non-dom billionaires, brainwashing the working class to vote their own interests.

@TimComley

Ай бұрын

No it shows that rules apply to us all, get over it

@MrSmith_

Ай бұрын

@@TimComley Except they don't apply to us all. The weekly "Wine Time Fridays" during COVID-19 springs to mind, which clearly broke the rules surrounding lockdown, you know partygate, that one. Then there's Cambridge Analytica, the political consulting firm, harvested personal data from millions of Facebook users without their consent and used it for political advertising purposes, including during the Brexit referendum campaign and the 2016 US presidential election. Here's another, although much before. In 2012 the Plebgate scandal which involved allegations that then-Chief Whip Andrew Mitchell used derogatory language towards police officers guarding Downing Street and accused them of being "plebs." Mitchell denied the allegations, but later resigned from his position amid the controversy. The scandal raised questions about the conduct of politicians and whether they were held to the same standards of behaviour as the public. So to answer your question, no it doesn't show that the rules apply to everyone. In fact it shows, that there special treatment goes on to people in positions of power.

@jeffsimon9594

Ай бұрын

No-one forces you to buy or read any newspaper

@SteelExoskeleton

Ай бұрын

​@@TimComleyno, that's not what this is about, it's about corrupt Conservatives, bigotry, and double standards.

This is costing the public money!!! Stop the Tories wasting our money and police time!!!

@user-dq6nj1zv9h

Ай бұрын

The Pro Palestine marches every week are costing more taxpayers money

@hg82met

Ай бұрын

@@user-dq6nj1zv9h People are exercising their democratic rights and trying to hold the politicians to account.

@weswheel4834

Ай бұрын

@@hg82met Except they're not, they are trying to avoid the Tories being held to account by saying: "No, look over there!".

@RoofLight00

Ай бұрын

@@hg82met So you’re fully behind the sacking of Nadim Zahawi for tax evasion?

@sallyraynor8984

Ай бұрын

By a loony lefty

Go on Carol!

@evolassunglasses4673

Ай бұрын

Rayner is the first to call for transparency from other MPs.

@cupguin

Ай бұрын

​@@evolassunglasses4673 And? I have yet to see any evidence she's done anything wrong. I can see evidence Tory papers would love for her to be guilty of something but that's not the same thing.

@weswheel4834

Ай бұрын

@@evolassunglasses4673 She's also said she'll publish her tax details if all MPs will. Seems fairly transparent to me.

Whatever you think about Carol, she knows her maths

@evolassunglasses4673

Ай бұрын

But the facts haven't been released

@onlyme219

Ай бұрын

@@evolassunglasses4673 And?

@chatham43

Ай бұрын

@onlyme And she knows all about hypocrisy too.☺

@hixta7889

Ай бұрын

Yep. First plus loans 4'999%apr? She can do math when her bank balance is on the up. All politicians need the drains lifted on their finances and loopholes they exploit.

@TimDye-by2sw

Ай бұрын

​​@@evolassunglasses4673the facts she mentions have been released. The CON media doesnt report it.

After all our money the tories have stolen from us, they are fkn pathetic go Carol, go Angela ❤

@adambinnie1332

Ай бұрын

But how many genders are there?

@bieituns

Ай бұрын

No one is above the law. Anyone else would be dealt with and so should she

@laurieharper1526

Ай бұрын

@@bieituns No. Anyone else is not "dealt with". None of those Carol referred to were "dealt with". Tory voter, by any chance?

@gerryparker7699

Ай бұрын

@@bieituns I'd agree but you'd have to be pretty naïve to think the super rich can't bend it to their favour.

@andygillett9999

Ай бұрын

@@laurieharper1526well said 👍

Vorderman Rocks.. Vote The Tories Out Now !

This is a non story. The Tories have taken everything and this is what we're focusing on?

@hg82met

Ай бұрын

They've got nothing else. If they focused on their own failures, their polling would plummet to single figures.

@stevenwilliamson6236

Ай бұрын

Need to stop voting for them.

@ryansweeney1661

Ай бұрын

Seems like a big enough story to me

@evolassunglasses4673

Ай бұрын

You hypocrite

@ThomasKing19933

Ай бұрын

​@@evolassunglasses4673Nope, I'm not.

Absolutely Carol!!!!!!

Can the conservatives be arrested for wasting police time?

@user-yb9ww6lv7j

Ай бұрын

So it's ok for an MP to cheat the system then??

@silversurfer640

Ай бұрын

They need arresting for wasting everyone's time.

@user-yb9ww6lv7j

Ай бұрын

Get it in your head that two wrongs don't make a right. Yes the Tories have done underhand things but that doesn't excuse what Rayner has done.

My favourite thing about these pathetic Tory tactics is that all it does is generate conversations about how much worse they have been for all this time…

@MrWhitmen1981

Ай бұрын

If you think that’s bad, wait till labor get in charge, you magnify the damage 10 fold. I bounce between the Australia and the UK, in Australia labor took over and has run the economy to the ground.

@wanklefish

Ай бұрын

@MrWhitmen1981, problem is, the way the Tories have been governing if you kept them in power here the damage is starting to magnify much, much more than 10 fold. Even if it gets worse under labour, and the jury is still out on that one, a huge reason for that will be because they inherited such a mess from the clueless Tories.

@trucker4567

Ай бұрын

Behave yourself, this woman has done wrong, the quicker this thing goes the better. The thought that vorderman is incensed has ruined my day, I don't know how I will cope now. MUPPET.

@tenniskinsella7768

Ай бұрын

No I think raynor is guilty leave boris alone Carol

@stephenjon3502

Ай бұрын

@@MrWhitmen1981The ALP came into power half way thru a recession. You can also blame Covid. The old chestnut of “ it will be worse under Labo(u)r” doesn’t wash here as the current Tories have been the shittest government in living history. Then you have the REFORM LOT WHO ALL COMMENT IN CAPS LOCK THINKING IT WILL BE EVEN BETTER WITH A PARTY THAT IS ACTUALLY A LIMITED COMPANY. D Luded.

The Police are only investigating Rayner's case due to political pessure .

@evolassunglasses4673

Ай бұрын

Just publish the facts.

@goinblinddoggone

Ай бұрын

Always in the pockets of the Tories. Police and Press

@markh1759

Ай бұрын

Politicians should never have Influence or power over police and law and order that is part of the problem with this country that is why corruption is rife !

@ursamajor6546

Ай бұрын

And fraud..

@gerryparker7699

Ай бұрын

@@markh1759 It's usually the Murdoc papers that have the deep pockets and money to "discover" the dirt on Labour. After all it took ages for them to "find out" about Boris and his catalogue of lies. Odd the difference eh?

When are the Tories going to stop politicising nonsense and wasting police time. They should be charged and fined.

@neelamacwan7670

Ай бұрын

Labour are million times worst

@chatham43

Ай бұрын

@Milo And in a way which doesn't waste police time!😀😂

@rayglenister9799

Ай бұрын

Nonsense is the Tory Party. BoJO, Liz Truss proved that.

This is the best the tories have got vaguely gesturing at imagined hypocrisy

@chatham43

Ай бұрын

@Alex And even if its a reality...it's an imagined reality dreamt up by the evil tories!

@kyorin6526

Ай бұрын

Typical Tory tactic, accuse your enemy of doing what you yourself do.

Once again, Carol on point. 💯

@evolassunglasses4673

Ай бұрын

Rayner is the first to call for transparency

@cupguin

Ай бұрын

​@@evolassunglasses4673 And side note, while you were leaving these comments did you think to watch the video?

The Tories be afraid be afraid of Angela Rayner. Never cross a red head

@adambinnie1332

Ай бұрын

She also smokes tabs, hahahaha

@billpugh58

Ай бұрын

After fourteen years of destroying us for their personal enrichment their only defence is “look, Angela Raynor, maybe 1500 quid” instead of “look Tory Baroness Mone, definitely 29 million quid!l “look Track and Trace, 10 billion quid”.

Boris Johnson as householder at number 10 should have been fined £10k like anyone else would have been and some did .

@sarangistudent8614

Ай бұрын

Most got fined that amount. How he and all the rest of them only got fined £50 for over 150 violations of the law is beyond me, when people were getting £10k fines for breaking it just the once.

@clivet3252

Ай бұрын

Number 10 isn't a house, it's a work place. Were any other key workers fined for having a few drinks in the workplace where they were allowed to be together? Did you hear of any nurses getting fined for all the parties they had?

@gerryparker7699

Ай бұрын

@@clivet3252 And where is your evidence of these "key workers" parties? Utterly made up tripe. Boris was a leader who lied time and again about a party, to save his own skin. Not to mention the hypocrisy of our PM and leader with regards to Covid advice. Your choice of a PM does not match up with with any sort of moral standards.

@curmudgeon1933

Ай бұрын

The problem with this, like fining the police, is that the taxpayer ends up footing the bill...not the person who committed the crime.

This claim first came out in lord ashcrofts book. A guy who avoided £112 million in tax with his non dom status! How many angela rayners is that

@clivet3252

Ай бұрын

You think if Angela Rayner was as wealthy as him she wouldn't do the same?

@bieituns

Ай бұрын

It doesn't matter. The law is the law. She should be punished

@stevecrane17

Ай бұрын

Totally agree mate. Also 112 million quid is 74,666 Angela Rayners. Madness!

@curmudgeon1933

Ай бұрын

@@bieituns . Are you saying that ANYONE who is found guilty of tax fraud should be punished? ...that would include half the Tory Party. lol

@bieituns

Ай бұрын

@@curmudgeon1933 yes, exactly, so be it. Lock them all up.

Angela Rayner is just sir Kier Starmer's John Prescot, but she hasn't put national security at risk, a la William Wragg

@weswheel4834

Ай бұрын

Or Boris Johnson.

@chatham43

Ай бұрын

@roy She's still in opposition Einstein!😀😀

Why are the police investigating a case where the statue of limitations has expired.

@Ajalemes

Ай бұрын

I sense money changing hands...

@karlhinze

Ай бұрын

Doesn’t apply to HMRC and potential tax evasion. Look it up.

@glyndavies5479

Ай бұрын

@@karlhinzeIt is therefore a matter for HMRC, not the Police.

@karlhinze

Ай бұрын

@@glyndavies5479Not true. It’s a potential criminal offence that she’s committed and therefore the police can prosecute.

@davidsmith5523

Ай бұрын

​@@karlhinzeHMRC already investigated by the way.

Carol can you send this video to GB spews and talk TV just to wind them up because this is getting out of hand.

@triffid68

Ай бұрын

The bottom feeders at GB News see this as one of the stories of the year!

@edwardmaclean-bs7vl

Ай бұрын

Yes please carol is right gb news is a joke they keep running with this non story

@chatham43

Ай бұрын

@kevin Yep..she could be found guilty..and we can't have that!

@pippoplfc

Ай бұрын

Also to all of the national media.

@peterspowage5752

Ай бұрын

​@@chatham43But she already has been found guilty by the Tory client media and its brainwashed readers. Do you agree that it's time to resurrect Hunt's honest mistake or Johnson's pole dance advisor, or even check on the progress of the Covid Inquiry? I don't recall there being the same enthusiasm for the publication of the Russian Report. Still, if Reform are stealing the xenophobic vote, and brexit's already done, what else have you got, but Rayner.

This is the Keir Starmer curry and beer story all over again. The difference being Starmer and now Angela Rayner both offered their resignation if any laws were broken. Imagine a Tory resigning. They have to be dragged from their positions kicking and screaming.

@neelamacwan7670

Ай бұрын

Because they both were tipped off that the police will do nothing

@gary1642

Ай бұрын

@@neelamacwan7670 I see, hear that down the pub did you?

@pipoo1

Ай бұрын

@@neelamacwan7670 in the case of beer gate they were not tipped off,they did however seek three different independent legal opinions on whether there was a case to answer and the were told there wasn’t and unsurprisingly the Police came to the same conclusion TWICE. It’ll be the same with Rayner. It’s nothing more than slander from a party that has utterly run its course, not just in Government but in British democratic politics. Demographics are not on the Tories side, among under 50s they are barely polling above 10% of the vote with Labour around 60%. The Tory party has NO future, this is last Tory Government.

@billpugh58

Ай бұрын

@@neelamacwan7670 The Tories are terrified if Raynor steps down, because that would mean half of them would as well😂

@user-yb9ww6lv7j

Ай бұрын

Of course they offered their resignation, they knew the investigation was going to be a whitewash.

Well done Carol your a star 🌟, and Kyle is a love 😊

How many Angela Rayner units have we paid to send 3 home secretary to Rwanda

@chatham43

Ай бұрын

@shaun And what have you got against that well known African country Rwanda I wonder?

Go girl. You tell these lying Tories the truth and I hope the public take it on board. It a non story but what else have they got to fall back on- certainly not their achievements

@chatham43

Ай бұрын

@user What a patronising term! She's in her sixties! Show some respect!

As always, Carol is spot on.

@pennywise146

Ай бұрын

👈🏻🤣🤡

@clivet3252

Ай бұрын

was she spot on when she worked for Cameron?

@philiphaley5414

Ай бұрын

She's only very left-wingly spot on....Rayner LIED, her former aide confirms it, her brother's reference yo her as his landlady confirms it, numerous neighbours confirm it. She's the only one not lying eh??

@chatham43

Ай бұрын

@ThomasKing More cheap likes for you know who!☺

@davidsmith5523

Ай бұрын

​@@philiphaley5414HMRC investigated and found no wrongdoing though.

If Angela Raynor has done something wrong, then she should be held accountable. However, it is for a pretty insignificant amount and IF she did something wrong, it is likely that it was by mistake. Let's start holding members of the Government accountable for the many things they did wrong knowing full well what they were doing, starting with PPE contracts.

@karlhinze

Ай бұрын

Pretty much the most sensible response I’ve seen on here so far. Everyone else is all pretty much “she couldn’t have done anything wrong because only Tories can do wrong” when just a little bit of critical thinking will give a fairer view.

I thought that the police had already investigated her and found that she broke no laws. This is simply a case of the Tories putting pressure on the police for their own gains. What it actually is, is wasting police time and resources and costing a lot of money.

Carol matches my absolute hatred of the Tories

@evolassunglasses4673

Ай бұрын

But Rayner is a hypocrite

@weswheel4834

Ай бұрын

@@evolassunglasses4673 Say it enough times and it becomes true? (Similar approach from the mail over currygate and RaynerOnceLivedInACouncilHouseGate).

@clivet3252

Ай бұрын

@@weswheel4834 deny it enough times and it becomes false?

@pennywise146

Ай бұрын

@@evolassunglasses4673 Correct!

@clivet3252

Ай бұрын

would you have taken up a role under Cameron then?

I don't really get the argument about buying a council house, she didn't support the policy being done, but once it is done. Her buying or not buying her home when 4 million others have been sold is not nothing it is less than nothing. She never went after the people who bought their council houses, she went after the policy itself.

@missaj5623

Ай бұрын

Although I think what the Tories are doing is disgusting I didn't think the issue was that Angela brought a council house (as that is not illegal so no point going to the police about it.) I thought the issue was where she claimed to be living at the time (which means she may have potentially broke electoral law) and if she potentially dodged taxes. Don't get me wrong I see this for what it is (a distraction by the Tories, throw enough mud and hoping some of it will stick) but just thought I would say what I believe the issue is. I don't agree with buying council houses either but it is not illegal.

@Alex-cw3rz

Ай бұрын

@@missaj5623 however the issue is we don't know if she dodged tax or was incorrectly registered the fact HMRC who was previously informed about this found nothing is rather telling. The wrong electoral register is again something that cannot even be prosecuted due to the statute of limitation and doesn't mean much.

@missaj5623

Ай бұрын

@@Alex-cw3rz absolutely I agree 100% it is just that you seemed to be saying the issue was she brought a council house while being against the policy but this is not something the Police would be investigating as it is not breaking any laws.

@cupguin

Ай бұрын

​@@Alex-cw3rz Why do you think those are issues? Were you sitting at home one day and think "oh I do hope all MPs have settled all their decades old tax affairs properly"? Was it Nadhim Zahawi getting caught avoiding tax with a dodgy trust in a taxi haven and then taking over as chancellor while he was still being investigated that made you passionate about this topic? Zahawi incidentally paid more than a million in a fine and is still a sitting Tory MP. Or did you never really like Angela and after weeks of front pages telling you that you were right to dislike her all along now you think this is what matters. Ignore the wars, the millions on NHS waiting lists, the crumbling buildings and councils going bankrupt. What matters is if a decade ago she paid a thousand quid or not on a house sale we have no reason to believe she owed any money on. The issue is they tried to paint her as a Thatcherite which failed. So decided they could imply there's a tax issue. So what if apparently they only Labour MPs to any standards when it comes to taxes, it's a better story than woman sold house. Except there's no reason to think she did anything wrong or if she did that it was anything other than a mistake. So instead there's some faked "if only she would clear things up". Except we know how that would work because they've moved on to yet another attempt to turn this into a story so even if she had somehow "cleared up selling a house" that clearly wouldn't have stopped anything. Also welcome to the early days of the next election. This is going to be it. Don't look at the Tory record, don't look at your own lives or the lives of people you know. They want you to hate individual Labour MPs enough to vote against your own interests. That's all this is. And when they get tired of this invented scandal there's going to be another one and another one. Who cares if there's no evidence, there must be some truth if they keep reporting right?

@weswheel4834

Ай бұрын

Yes, similar to how some people call James O'B a hypocrite for being in favour of wealth distribution but also having some money, or for believing in basic human rights for asylum seekers, but then not housing them all personally in his own house.

The tories are completely crooked. Investigate them, prosecute them, seize every penny they stole and Lock Them Up!

@sorryofficer1

Ай бұрын

Then throw away the key

The police time would be better spent chasing Baroness Mone.

How's the Mone investigation coming along?

@chatham43

Ай бұрын

@hg How's the covid lockdown enquiry coming along?

On top of how many Billions of our money on dodgy contracts and faulty PPE?

@chatham43

Ай бұрын

@jimmy Not to mention the disastrous lockdown...and the subsequent misery inflicted on the country!

@billpugh58

Ай бұрын

@@chatham43 Still coping are we? 😂

Dido Harding - £37 billion.

@chatham43

Ай бұрын

@davidrose Lockdown..500 billion!

@billpugh58

Ай бұрын

@@chatham43 Yeah, the Tories ordered the lockdown. The Tories wasted 37 billion on Dido. The Tories gave us the disastrous brexit, massively increased non EU immigration……..See the connection here? 😂

The Daily Mail is "Unpleasant" now according to Readers.

@chatham43

Ай бұрын

@joso Is what you thought when you used to read it?

@billpugh58

Ай бұрын

The last media refuge of the Tory lovers😂 ignore it, like we ignore the Tories now😂 they and their voters have become irrelevant

@silversurfer640

Ай бұрын

It's really the 'Daily Heil'.

Considering the pay of each member of the Police team investigating this, how much is the bill for this investigation costing the taxpayer? Much more than any tax Angela Rayner owes, that's for sure.

@clivet3252

Ай бұрын

But if it stops a corrupt politician from being in government then it's worth every penny.

@pennywise146

Ай бұрын

Perhaps she should be the one that’s held accountable for wasting police resources and taxpayers money then. If she’d have paid up in the first place or revealed her proof…none of this would be happening!

@pennywise146

Ай бұрын

@@clivet3252 Correct!

@andygillett9999

Ай бұрын

I see 2 tories are patting each other on the back for calling out corruption in politics. Someone should maybe tell them they’re a little too late noticing cos it’s been happening under their government for the past 14 years 😡

@peterspowage5752

Ай бұрын

​ @@clivet3252 Someone should tell you that, merely being investigated by the police is not a crime. I don't recall the Mail demonstrating this level of moral outrage when Johnson was being investigated. Are you so conditioned that you can justify the Tory client media's actions or do you share their desperation? If your voting intentions are determined by abhorance of political corruption, there are much louder drums for you to beat.

I get up earlier every morning just so I can dislike Tories for longer each day !!😂😂

@middleman9183

Ай бұрын

.......wait till Laboour get in!! 😂

@TheBigMidweek1889

Ай бұрын

​@@middleman9183 We're fed up of waiting. GE now!

@chatham43

Ай бұрын

@brianferguson Beats having a life..but who can blame you!😊

Angela Rayner, i will resign it found guilty....torys go quiet.,... blimey she has set a president here were not comfortable with...she was supposed to just go ..😓

@jamesoneill5070

Ай бұрын

You can't blame Biden.

@scatmann5839

Ай бұрын

Set a president? Biden or Trump?

@damienx0x

Ай бұрын

* precedent

@pauln6803

Ай бұрын

There's a theory doing the rounds that the Tory MPs themselves are quiet because they don't want the same spotlight on their business. This is the Daily Mail client journalists doing their mates an "unofficial" solid because of the local elections, just as they did to Starmer with rehashing "Beergate".

@lobintool

Ай бұрын

Try "set a precedent here we're not comfortable with" and you would quite right! Hope that helps.

Thanks Carol Vorderman speaking/SHOUTING out thank you thank you i totally agree with you 😊 General Election now!!!

love carol she is straight to the point go girl

go carol you absolute legend

The police can not prosecute Rayner. The law in England stipulates that a case must be brough within 18 months regarding capital gains.

@karlhinze

Ай бұрын

That’s complete nonsense.

@chatham43

Ай бұрын

@thomas There...that proves she's innocent mlud!☺

@thomasreilly6362

Ай бұрын

@@karlhinze No its English law

@thomasreilly6362

Ай бұрын

@@chatham43 Innocent or not the time to bring legal action has passed.

@karlhinze

Ай бұрын

@@thomasreilly6362NO IT HASN’T. Stop making things up!

Well done Carol. Love you to bits! x

@chatham43

Ай бұрын

@colin No you don't...but it's nine cheap easy likes!😊

Carol for PM

I think it's probably not a great idea for the Daily Mail, of all publications, to be pointing fingers at someone else's tax arrangements!

Track And Trace app ended up at about £50 billion although it never worked.

What a wonderful thing it is to have a Carol Vordeman talking sense in this mad, mad world.

@chatham43

Ай бұрын

@julian Then it must be if that's the case posh julian.!

Angela, I think your great keep doing your job, your so much more than any of the haters.👏👏👏👏

The Tories do this though. Attempt to discredit their opposition by claiming fraud or tax evasion or misuse of public funds. The Tories are the absolute last people that should be trusted with money.

WE NEED A FRENCH STYLE REVOLUTION !!!

What's next they going to say if you say buys any products with VAT on it, she's a disgu sting hypocrite because that was a tory policy.

I can't stand Angela Rayner and the Labour Party but next to the other corruption in Westminster this is nothing.

Funny how Lord Ashcroft and Daily Fail owners are keeping very quiet about their (offshore) tax affairs. If only the Daily Fail readers knew how unpatriotic they are…

@chatham43

Ай бұрын

@tasty Is that why you stopped reading the Daily Mail?

All MPs must be held accountable. Both sides must uphold the law. There can be no exceptions.

Labour would do exactly the same if it was a Conservative under scrutiny.

@willieckaslike

Ай бұрын

Maybe. But probably with more justification. Remember Denis SKINNERS COMMENT "Half of the Party opposite are thieves". When ordered by the Speaker to withdraw the comment, he very quickly replied, "Half the Party opposite, are not thieves" !

*Carol you are absolutely brilliant* 🇪🇺🇬🇧

@adambinnie1332

Ай бұрын

She is fake!

I'd say she is laughing her head off because she knows she did nothing.

@chatham43

Ай бұрын

@steven And even if she did..she'd still continue laughing....she still made a tidy profit!😊

If there was nothing to 'dig up' then Angela wouldn't care less how deep they dug ! The fact that She is worried shows that She has many more Skeletons to hide.

If £1500 tax dodging is not a 'big problem' can 40 million UK taxpayers do the same and expect a £1500 refund from HMRC ? Imagine Vorderman's reaction if this was a Tory dodging tax ?

@edthompson9337

Ай бұрын

Pure double standards, I think Carol is after a job with Labour.

Yes, Carol!!!!

Vote the tories OUT!!!

@ursamajor6546

Ай бұрын

And the tax evaders in? 😅😅😅

She's said she'll resign if she's broken the law. So fair enough.

@karlhinze

Ай бұрын

She also said Boris should resign simply for being investigated by the police so Rayner should take her own advice and step down.

@mikeonfreeserve2926

Ай бұрын

Breaking the law and being capable of being prosecuted are different things, wonder if she realises

It’s such a waste of time, the Police doing this. Apparently, a prosecution for this type of issue has a year before it’s out of date. They couldn’t prosecute anyway. Also, the Michelle Donalan issue. We also had to pay for the legal costs of the man who was attacked verbally by her. It takes the whole bill to around £67K. Angela Raynor is a brilliant and powerful woman. She will prevail.

Kyle is right, they're terrified of Rayner and especially Johnson who hated the open contempt she had for him and, Like Carol, I look forward to her being in a position to investigate them. As for Carol, she is priceless.

Funny how many self employed people are kicking off about this after wacking everything thru the accountant to pay as little tax as possible….

There’s not one moment when hearing Vorders speak where I’m not thinking “she’s an absolutely legend”!

@chatham43

Ай бұрын

@joex Yes there is..don't overegg it...just undermines your praise for her...but you shouldn't need to be told that.

@joex2004uk

Ай бұрын

@@chatham43 erm… ok?

@DeezilOyl

Ай бұрын

@joex2004uk - I'm sure you missed out on the hyphen. You obviously mean LEG END

The money is not the issue, if she intended to avoid paying the tax that pays her wages that is a problem.

Thank you Carol! Your brilliant!

Anyone, but anyone who's been accused of breaking the law and lying to parliament has to be investigated, It costs money as it did when Boris was investigated. Let her off? Why?

Remember she claimed the most expensive ear pods. Why does someone earning so much need to be claiming for this that and the other. She’s clearly on the money train

@karlhinze

Ай бұрын

I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not.

Doesn't matter if its 150 pound its about honesty and integrity which Rayner and vorderman are always talking about

I was hoping for a response like this. Well done. If only some of the press came back with this.

Carol! Our heroine! ❤

LBC so love labour

@garyh1572

Ай бұрын

Iain Dale ? Nick Ferrari ??

@keef6586

Ай бұрын

@@garyh1572She’s conveniently forgot about those

I think it's only right everyone is scrutinised in the same way. No matter the party.

Why are we surprised ? They all have their snouts in the trough.Remember the expenses scandal ? All parties at it.

Great call and superb mathematical analysis from Carol. Keep flying the flag darlin ✊🏻🚩

Why does Vorderman never complain how poor Labour are in Wales ?

Carol,I ❤ you,the voice of rationality in a Tornado of nonsense.

does not matter if its just £ 10.00 , has she broke the law? joe public would be held to account, so why not the deputy leader of the labour party?

Well Done Carol ❤

I'm incensed by people who should know better advertising payday loans.

"Do you think tax dodger's should be shadow minister's ?" SIR KIER STARMER DOES

Well said Carol!

Don't you just ❤️Carol Vorderman. 😁

@steboTCB

Ай бұрын

No

@paulherlihy9290

Ай бұрын

@@steboTCB are intelligent, attractive, articulate, altruistic and extremely numerate types not your kind. Fair enough mate!

As I understand it the statute of limitations has passed any way so why are the police investigating it when there is nothing they can do about it. There is enough current crime in GM for them to investigate.

@karlhinze

Ай бұрын

Then you understand wrong. There’s barely such thing as Statute of Limitations in the UK and potential tax evasion doesn’t apply anyway. I love reading some of these comments from wannabe lawyers who don’t actually know what they’re talking about.

@PaulaXism

Ай бұрын

@@karlhinze Limitation Act 1980.. read it and weep.. signed.. an actual lawyer.

Douglass Ross forgot he earned £30k from his football linesman pay, but he DID remember to claim on his expenses for a bottle of milk.