I'm not even American, but the thing that drives me insane is that not a single person had any idea who Gene Haas is yet that's no problem at all with them running a team. Andretti is arguably the most recognizable racing name in America and that is a problem?! This has made zero sense.

@brianvogt8125

4 ай бұрын

The American fans know who Gene Haas is, via the very competitive Stewart-Haas Racing in NASCAR. His mobile advertising signs generate more business profit than it costs to run the F1 team, so he's happy. The entry of Haas F1 Team expanded the field from 10 teams to 11 in 2016, so that's a precedent. Considering how keen FOM is to promote their business in USA, I can only think that Andretti's exclusion is a temporary publicity stunt. Perhaps 12 months from now ...

@freeicc

4 ай бұрын

HAAS is bigger name than Andretti unless your over 55 and watch f1

@leprechaun50

4 ай бұрын

@@brianvogt8125And before that there was the Newman-Hass racing team.

@brianvogt8125

4 ай бұрын

@@leprechaun50 What's the relevance of Newman-Haas to Gene Haas?

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@qzwxecrv0192837465

4 ай бұрын

The bombshell was at the very end: possibly buying HAAS. keeps it at 10 teams while allowing him to work on a manufacturers (i don't like the word "works") car for 2028

@brucepeters4274

4 ай бұрын

Hardly a bombshell, the pundits have been talking about Andretti’s quickest path was to buy another team and have mentioned Haas previously.

@alexlazebat839

4 ай бұрын

@@qzwxecrv0192837465 alpha tauri maybe red bull saying its not cost effective

@mintgoldheart6126

4 ай бұрын

​@@qzwxecrv0192837465 Haas refused to be bought three times already.

@michaeltaylor4271

4 ай бұрын

I mean how else do you expect the to drum up views in the off season? Lol

And the kicker is Red Bull are allowed 2 teams,,,,,,,,,,

@XA351GT

4 ай бұрын

and that 2nd team has finished in the bottom half of the standings for at least 12 straight seasons , but they think Andretti wouldn't be competitive.

@christiandacosta9218

4 ай бұрын

But then again, on the flipside, formidable countries, like; China, India, Japan (despite signing engines over, to a fewEnglish teams), are not in Formula One, AT ALL and if they want to enter, they've still got a mountain to climb. Andretti will get in! Eventually!!!

@brianvogt8125

4 ай бұрын

Of course Red Bull are allowed 2 teams. They rescued the Minardi team by buying it at a time when Formula One needed to keep the numbers up. Even if there were a "relegation zone" (like in soccer), RB Formula One has not consistently been in it, so there's no basis for dispatching them. In hindsight, it looks like Michael Andretti's desire to purchase a team has come a few years too late.

F1 is complaining a lot that there are not enough seats availlable for the young new drivers.. then a team which would bring 2 more seats comes along and they say no... Ridicilious.

@MrHaggyy

4 ай бұрын

They are not complaining about the number of seats. Infact adding two more cars makes some pitlanes really tight. And the terms of entering the sport as a new team are well known and ridiculous expensive, to keept Ford, Porsche, Honda, Audi, Aston Martin at bay or let them buy existing teams.

@seanwoodson1143

4 ай бұрын

@@MrHaggyybs. I don’t see INDYCAR complaining about the size of the field and the pit lane ? F1 is just soft

@MrHaggyy

4 ай бұрын

@@seanwoodson1143 When did INDYCAR race in Monaco, Hockenheim, Baku, Azerbaijan, Las Vegas? It's obviously much easier if you limit yourself to a view big circuits.

@pikestance8851

4 ай бұрын

@@MrHaggyy F1 had 12 teams before and they raced on the same tracks. So that's a red herring.

@tonyhibbert2342

4 ай бұрын

No f1 are not complaining that there are not enough seats !

F1 needs 12 teams and 2 tyre suppliers for a tyre war!

@alexlazebat839

4 ай бұрын

then a tyre war would increase the expense. budget gap

@googleboy7530

4 ай бұрын

@@alexlazebat839good.

@Tenno_umbra

4 ай бұрын

You American by any chance??

@Jarv62990

4 ай бұрын

Pirelli vs michelin

@johnsteele4797

4 ай бұрын

@@Tenno_umbra nope!

If F-1 doesn't permit new teams and quality engine manufacturers to enter & compete, how can F-1 say it's truly a competitive field of the world's finest engine manufacturers?

@d.martins4471

4 ай бұрын

exactly.

@tedecker3792

3 ай бұрын

Andretti needs to buy a team.

What I don't get it, Liberty Media which owns F1 is an American company. We hear all the time how they are wanting to get more American viewership (hence Vegas) and yet they deny the one brand that Americans know.

Sounds like F1 is playing games again. Becoming common.

@craigpurdie3528

4 ай бұрын

When did they STOP playing games?

F1 needs more teams, excluding a team that’s willing to compete and has funding is ridiculous.

It's our ball and we decide who gets to play with it ... which is total horse shit. :(

I have heard that the Formula One Group is in shaky legal grounds excluding Andretti. Andretti could sue to be admitted to the club but he would have to do that carefully as forcing is way into the "club" would come with consequences. It would be interesting to see what specific rights the Concorde Agreement grants the Formula One Group.

@markntexas8265

3 ай бұрын

Franchise laws in the USA are pretty bullet proof I don't see this being the case.

Just wanna point out that the guy you keep putting on screen whenever you refer to "F1" is not the head of F1. He's Muhammed Bin Sulayem, the head of the FIA. The FIA approved Andretti's bid. It was an American commercial entity who ultimately turned down Andretti. F1 is owned by Liberty Media, an American company which has next to nothing to do with Bin Sulayem or the FIA.

@tomnewham1269

4 ай бұрын

Your right. It wasn't the FIA that has put a stop to Andretti's bid but Liberty Media.

@hollybrooke3850

4 ай бұрын

Although f It is F1 and the majority of the teams.... And most of the time I saw Muhammad and Stefano followed by Stefano (though I was reading) And looking up now while replying to this the 4 time I heard "f1" 3 times was Muhammad and once was Muhammad and Stefano followed by Stefano again 😂🤷🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ Pmsl then I hit enter - heard FOM looked up and just saw Stefano 😂😂😂

@TheSarcasticEngineer

4 ай бұрын

​@@hollybrooke3850can I get you a sedative?

So where was the bombshell?

@etoineschrdlu9382

4 ай бұрын

It was a dud.

@gregoryjohnson8724

4 ай бұрын

@@etoineschrdlu9382 obviously! Lol

@lanpartyanimal5215

4 ай бұрын

How could you miss it? It was buying the Haas team.

@etoineschrdlu9382

4 ай бұрын

@@lanpartyanimal5215 Yeah, right, they said that MAYBE Andretti would buy the Haas Team. Speculation is not a bombshell. And then said that neither Andretti or Haas was saying anything. True that neither said no, which means their lawyers MIGHT BE talking. This was reporting a vacuum of information.

@vvf1-sb2do

4 ай бұрын

Still coming!😅😅

Don’t blame F1, blame Liberty Media Corp. an American owned company.

@semiprocardudes

4 ай бұрын

run by a European, and this decision was made by that European- Domenicalli

@JeffSherlock

2 ай бұрын

Liberty is F1 now, that is the point. Was it somehow better in the 1980s, with the French doofuss making the decisions and getting people killed?

f1 is very stagnant , i think the inclusion of andretti and cadillac could have spiced things up a little

If f1 was ultimately going to reject any and all applicants, why even offer up the possibility of adding any more teams....

"not of commercial value"....how many US Grand Prix are there? what would it do to ticket sales to have a US team that was competitive (And dont think for a second GM and andretti wouldnt be)

'Competitiveness Issues' - Hass: Hold my beer

It honestly sounds like F1 is afraid that Andretti will be too competitive and possibly dominate the established teams/brands. There are several non competitive teams who are under funded and we are always reading stories about their financial hardships and in the past decade have seen teams go bankrupt. Andretti has deep pockets, Cadillac has deep pockets, Ferrari, Red Bull, and Mercedes are scared. F1 is protecting them.

I would have loved to see Andretti on the grid!

A big mistake on F1 not excepting Andretti and GM onto the grid. Very sad. We need more works teams.

How do we stop them racing in theUSA stop these greedy bastards

@edjohnson2729

4 ай бұрын

I agree. Miami, Austin & Las Vegas are good money makers for the FIA and F1 Teams, yet there are no American drivers-almost like taxation without representation! This could be dangerous. Make Andretti - Cadillac a reality!

@ronbelanger4113

4 ай бұрын

Ah, is the little child upset?

@JeffSherlock

2 ай бұрын

Well, that would be political, tax-exempt groups, in bed with local government crooks, with support from the crooked news industry. Do you want more of that?

Andretti should race in Indycar and F1

Where is the bombshell?

F1: We created a series of unreasonable hoops for Andretti to jump through in order to discourage them but they failed to jump through one of them so we have rejected the bid we were never going to accept anyway, despite leading him on.

Williams is competitive? HAAS is Competitive? Alpha Terr is competitive...give me a break😢

Andretti/Hass couldn't hurt HAAS, only help IMO. I am ok with 10 teams, soooo Andretti/HAAS works for me. Maybe Andretti can get the HAAS team in the hunt on race days!

@spornbot

4 ай бұрын

Maybe. But HAAS isn't in it to win it. It is just a platform for his business. If he finishes above last place, then it is a bonus.

@catjudo1

4 ай бұрын

At this point, Gene Haas could pretty much name his price and Michael Andretti would happily buy the team outright to get on the grid. It would be a win/win for both parties as Gene would have made a market for his CNC machines and sold his team for a profit, and Andretti would have a spot on the grid, much to the chagrin of pretty much everyone in F1. Michael's dug in like a tick so far... this isn't over.

Hasn't Brad Pitt been using empty garages to film his new movie on race weekends?

Mentions "F1" and shows image of "FIA" head. MBS is not responsible for FOM decisions.

The Andretti name would have brought even more interest to F1 racing. A tire war would be really stupid, one tire make would always have an advantage.

I think Andretti is going to get in some way, and F1 will pay on that day. Until then, America needs to boycott drive to survive and anything f1 related.

@darwinwallace77

4 ай бұрын

Why?

@davidvalencia129

4 ай бұрын

You do realize f1 is currently owned by liberty media right? And two teams are american owned already them being Haas and Williams.. its not like america isn't pandered already. I wanted to see Andretti in here but its not like there isn't any american team already.

@xboxgamer23904

4 ай бұрын

@davidvalencia129 Haas is also in Nascar I wish Andretti was as well. Andretti is a name recognized by racing the world over and for those elite people to say they brought no recognition is a slap in the face of racing royalty.

@slaphead90

4 ай бұрын

Let's be honest here, F1 did absolutely marvelously without anything to do with the USA. However with the involvement of Liberty Media, a USA entity, the whole show has just gone to shit. So please boycott it, please. We might get actually get something decent again.

@bradleyshane7170

4 ай бұрын

Lol 😂😂😂

It is the same as it has always been. If you are in the club you don't want new members in the club because it will dilute. At that is the real reason. Money, dilution of the pot. Those in the club think they will get less if Andretti is let in. Oh, and revenge. There are still people who hold a grudge against Mario.

FON should have accepted the Andretti entry. Andretti can definitely add value to F1 for sure. The current teams are very short sighted and just in the sport for the Money-very short sighted. Hopefully that can buy the Haas Team. They need to let them in! Andretti is a much bigger name than Haas ever will be!

No new news here

Most certainly believe Andretti should be on the grid for 26’

Waiting for Cadillac and Porsche. Ik Caddy was gonna go with Andretti and Porsche had a greedy offer thatcford grabbed for RB in 2026.

Andretti has a great Antitrust lawsuit case

@user-hm5nn9pk8n

4 ай бұрын

It won't help them to a 2025 entry though.Lawsuits take a lot of time.

@stephenremillard9462

4 ай бұрын

@@user-hm5nn9pk8n I don't think 2025 was ever considered. 2026 was for the official entry.

@user-hm5nn9pk8n

4 ай бұрын

@@stephenremillard9462 As it is mentioned in FOM's response as an argument against Andretti it was.

@ronbelanger4113

4 ай бұрын

In what countries court? They said no, sue for hurt feelings?

@stephenremillard9462

4 ай бұрын

​@@user-hm5nn9pk8n, I think Andretti themselves mentioned that they were not aiming for 2025 due to the approval delays and more importantly about the rule change. Yes they are novice but I don't think they are stupid enough to develop 2 completely different cars in 2 years. I think the original application was vague on the actual entry date. If I were them I would still aim for the 2026 season (if they think they still have a chance to get in) and propose something financial to sweeten the deal, instead of taking FOM proposal for 2028. As by then, the Concord agreement will most probably change and the entry fees will probably quadruple (or even more) making it unreasonable. At this point they might as well buy an existing team.

The last few seconds of your video... Andretti was willing to fork over the best part of $1bn to join the grid, and I'm sure Gene Haas would sell for less than half of that.

Haas isn't competitive. Fact. F1 should introduce some method to increase competitiveness with potential external competitors.

Why did Andretti not buy Manor in the past just $ 80 - 100 price range

So the Andretti name and general motors have a racing background longer than F1 itself. And Haas has only been slightly competitive it's first year. The last 2 year's they've been 8th and 10thout of 10 teams

And the BOMSHELL was ?

Try putting an old cosworth engine in the caddy

I would buy a Cadillac here in South Australia. I you can get one. Just saying. Totally agree with 12 teams two tyre suppliers.

@peterdraddy3033

4 ай бұрын

Like in the past!

Seem to me that the existing teams don't want to share the money cake, that is the big issue.

Let's face facts--F1 (owners and management) does not want to divide a 10-piece pie 11 ways. All the rest is smoke screen.

Liberty media should be sued for failing to allow new teams because this f1 sport is not competitive.

@ronbelanger4113

4 ай бұрын

In what countries court?

They're afraid of Andretti motorsports. Especially with Cadillac engines.

Could FOM be doing this to show their opposition to Sulayem and the FIA.!

No bombshell?!

I think they have made an error in prventing Andretti for 1 main reason. F1 wanted to enter the American market for their benefit and the first full on American team gets blocked!!!

Is it me, or does it always seem that F1’s decisions rarely go America’s way?

If the f1 are so concerned about competitiveness, shouldn't there only be 1 redbull team? That's a spot for a team that ~could~ be trying to win races.

@bomberwizz

4 ай бұрын

I think they should force RB team to be sold, and then Andretti can bid in what would be a auction for the team. yes no one should own two teams in the sport.

@mikechenery8398

4 ай бұрын

Red Bull were begged to Buy Minardi which is why they ran the 2nd team as a separate unit. That was not very competitive so it should improve racing if both teams share some parts and are better to watch. After all Haas is basically a poor Ferrari and designed by an outside firm as well. FIA states there is room for twelve teams. Liberty should increase the funding to the teams to compensate them but they want the profits, not good racing. They had enough cash to give Las Vegas £500 million to build the pits so not exactly hard up.@@bomberwizz

They should have let Andretti in and I hope they buy Hass!

This is just a stall by FOM. I think they are hoping that one of 2 things happens. 1) The delay will be long enough that a new Concorde agreement will happen a there will be an even higher dilution fee or 2) GM will lose interest and back out. Pretty slimy in my opinion.

As the 20's continue, F1 continues to disappoint me month by month. I can agree with the inability to house 11 teams at tracks IF it were true. The rest of their "arguments" are a sign of fear and worry about having Andretti in the mix. The arrogance to say "F1 would bring value to the Andretti brand, rather than the other way around". F1 and the Andretti name are nearly synonymous with anyone over the age of 30

@the5gen

4 ай бұрын

They had 26 cars at one time. The precedent is there for more than 10 teams.

The FOM comments about Andretti are stupid Andretti are going to take them to court over this

They are afraid of GM and Andretti

It's all about money. The 11th place team gets zero guaranteed money. Means that teams like Haas, Williams, and Alfa Romeo might not get anything.

Foam should have accepted Andretti for sure

This decision just shows how depending on who is head of FOM that arrogance and probably pressure from teams already F1 leaders wouldn't want a new team joining. I believe this is the main issue also that quite a few of the FOM are blatantly looking for more filled pockets! SHAME ON THEM!!

Andretti/Haas Cadillac team for 2025-2027 then Andretti/Cadillac for 2028 and beyond.

how many race fans have noticed yet that the first 2 races are to happen on the Saturday

@lzugner

4 ай бұрын

What?

I have watched generations of Andretti's races, even here in Australia, and I believe they should have been granted a start, Andretti has shown their love and professionalism for motor racing for generations, but I think in this case F1 got it wrong, and if Micheal Andretti wants to start a petition to help his cause I will sign it.

American fans should boycott every F1 race in the U.S. and Canada. F1 management will rue the day they declined Andretti's application.

Are Andretti and Zak Brown separated at birth? 😂😂

@ronbelanger4113

4 ай бұрын

Just the same blind barber.

What bombshell was dropped?

While I believe Andretti should be in F1 I also believe 2025 is too quick for them to join. Rules changes in 2026 for the cars are coming so why not shoot for 2027-2028.

Historically Andretti - Cadillac - GM have proved that they only race for wins in motor sport, so why is the FIA deliberately trying to block this team?? Andretti Cadillac should be allowed to shake up the F1 racing on track. If an energy manufacturing company, with no vehicle production background, can develop an F1 car that has already won multiple WDC & WCC's,. Imagine how much one of the largest Global vehicle manufacturer, with a proven racing track record, could bring to increase Global interest in F1 while pushing the limits to win WDC & WCC tittles!!!!!

Meantime, Gene Haas announces, they expect to finish last in 2024!

I wouldn't say the decision comes across as dumb or disrespectful. It comes cross as dumb and disrespectful!

What Andretti racing sold Hass motorsports their chassis design. And became a supplier in the sport. Then they could get their experience and fully develop a chassis and cadillac could greenlight development of their engine for the now Hass racing team?

@XA351GT

4 ай бұрын

Rules state a team MUST build it's own chassis this would be considered a customer chassis

@donaldgavigan9376

4 ай бұрын

@@XA351GT yes but Hass doesn't build their chassis Ferrari builds it. So what is the difference really. And if they partnered up. It would be a team chassis.

@kls2020

4 ай бұрын

I think you meant to say Dalara builds Haas chassis based on Haas engineers designs@@donaldgavigan9376

Buy the Haas team and bring in a different tire supplier, that would make it interesting

FOM is short sighted, I am 100% behind Andretti Cadillac F1, they should be on the grid...

The term "competitive" seems very dubious in its use from FOM/F1. Like what do they mean by that? Is beating the worst F1 team on the grid considered "competitive".

Let Andretti buy the second RB team, and make it competitive!

Being Competitive in F1's mind has nothing to do with racing. Being Competitive in their eyes has everything to do with how well they think Andretti can pull in sponsorship $$$$$ thus increasing the pool of money that is available to be split. In this way F1 may be correct. We as race fans do not really care if AMG Mercedes has Crowdstrike on their car but F1 does. I would like to hear from Andretti what sponsorship package they put together for the F1 effort and how that compares to the other teams that are currently in F1. I hope they make it. Perhaps an Andretti/Penske/Ganassi partnership would have made more sense in these terms but in terms of racing there would be too many cooks in the kitchen for this to work.

@chrismohler6621

4 ай бұрын

They already back by Cadillac are death General Motors is backing them! You honestly think they can’t pick up associate sponsors? They already have slew of sponsors on hand do they have relationships with do they not?

When Homer wanted to enter a treehouse club, a boy said that they were no Homers allowed, and then Homer points out that they let in Homer Glumpet. It was then explained that there couldn't be more than one Homer in the club because it was a No-Homers Club.

For the FOM it's a money matter. It has nothing to do with Andretti. Andretti is capable of building a competitive F1 car.

The idea that they knew certain facilities would not fit an 11th team shows they didn't want an 11th team all along. that's not new information. They knew that on day one and chose not to make it an issue.

Selling an f1 team now wouldnt make sense. Unless theyre bankrupt, which i dont see happening given the media money in f1 now.

In one word "Unbelievable 😂"

FOM..... it's all about the $$$$$! Screw the sport. If they truly cared about it, they would welcome Andretti. If they truly meant the garbage they spewed out, they would have to cancel half of the team's in their "club" as they are obviously not competitive to start with.

gmc f1 engine... lmfao so its gonna be out of a Bedford Rascal, with a turbo then :) lol

F1 simply is blocking Andretti. Everything is just excuses to do so. Some of their grounds are borderline childish.

Haas is in trouble financially, I can see this happening.

Question: what would F1 think if the US tracks back Andretti. And just say no to F1 as they have done in previous years.

Why not let them in in 2026 if the new car is specs is such a big deal. They just want to keep the cash to themselves. Very greedy and short sighted.

Andretti should buy Circuit of the Anericasand lock F1 out! Run Indy car there and nascar!

It could all be politics since FORD owns part of Red Bull, I believe. Definitely would be nice to see Andretti come in to F1.

Its all about the prize money split pure and simple. Unless liberty media want to pay more out to negate the extra split the teams will boycott it.

Come on we all want to see new teams its getting to predictable and it will just make the sport more exciting and more opportunities for more drivers to have a chance

The plainly clear way for Andretti to field a team is to purchase HAAS as the sport continues to grow the current teams and the commercial management have no reason to add extra teams or should we say franchise holders. I'm sure Gene is rubbing his hands together after the decision from FOM as his franchise has just increase in value

The reasoning behind why they can't join the grid are unjustified.

Wouldn't help them add an 11th team? Then get rid of Haas.

I would say, there is 1 very simple reason above them all: money - 11 teams means less money for each team. No F1 Team made money until liberty media took over, now they show their wall street ambitions... And their reasons are hillarious, just one example for knowledge transfer: Red Bull (2 Teams allowed for them??) developes their own engine for 2026 while using Honda until then...no problem there?? And how competitive is Renault/Alpine, Williams and Sauber? With that statement they made a big mistake for the future - and a massive disappointment for all motorsport fans

Sounds like F1 is discriminating against the Andretti’s, F1 seem like they are afraid of competition. I for one would watch more if they allowed American drivers in the sport

Andretti should be in!!!!

"We were not able to identify any material expected positive effect on CRH financial results, as a key indicator of the pure commercial value of the championship" This is exactly why I personally have given up on F1. This is not an actual sport or a real racing series at all. F1 has become a show. And not even a good one.

Gene Haas said it himself, in 8 years they have not progressed, Andretti is the best name to represent the US,