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@dadsonworldwide3238

3 жыл бұрын

I think the answer to everyone is yes ,just depends on location and time. We know mix multitudes lived in Egypt.

@Wesley-ls5wh

3 жыл бұрын

The fellow you interviewed has a thick accent and he is dancing on facts. Ancient Egyptians were Africans. From Punt (the Horn of Africa) Most of their oldest Gods like Bes, Hathor, Ra and many more were from Punt. No other country in the World shared Gods with Egypt except Punt. That shows us a link between the two . Before the mixing the majority of the population would have looked like Eritreans, Ethiopians and Puntites (Somalilanders). Some were pure Sub Saharan like the entire 20th Dynasty Ramses iii, Ramses iv and so on whos haplogroup was a West African Haplo E1b1a.

@Wesley-ls5wh

3 жыл бұрын

@Ario 1 "highly mixed" Now that you have seen that Ancient Egyptians were not Arabs but infact of East African origin you're now trying to claim East Africans as Caucasians. Its quite sad actually. The Black race is the most diverse of all races. We come in a number of different features from Kinky coarse afros of West Africa to Curly Afros of East Africa to Frizzy Afros of Southern Africa and skin tones ranging from Jet black of South Sudan to Reddish brown of East Africa to Black-Brown of Central and Southern Africa. We are of Sub Saharan stock and we are responsible for the Kingdom of Kemet, Kingdom of Axum, Kingdom of Nubia, Kingdom of Ghana, Kingdom of Swahili, Kingdom of Zimbabwe. The British museum has long stated that Ancient Egypt shared more cultural, religious ties with the interior of Africa than anywhere else. In my own country of Zimbabwe, mummification of Kings is still being done till this day, when a king dies, blood and all moisture are drained from his body and all his insides removed, then he is wrapped in either linen or a bull skin for mummification then ultimately laid to rest in Mountain caves (a less glamorous version of pyramids) designated specifically for Kings, dead kings are believed to be the Ancestors in the next life. This alone shows you the similarities between Ancient Egypt and the interior of Africa.

@Wesley-ls5wh

3 жыл бұрын

@Ario 1 So let me get this straight, You are saying Horners are related to Caucasians who are responsible for Egytian civilisation? Ok lets look at the facts here 1. Egyptians from early Dynastic times viewed Punt (Somaliland, Eritrea) as their place of origin. Infact their earlist Gods are from Punt like Hathor, Bes, Ra and may more. 2. Egytians were dark reddish brown in colour, they differentiated themselves from Asiatics and Levantine settlers by painting them as either yellow or clear white (see the tomb of Seti I), this shows that they didn't see Asiatics (Arabs) as looking like them, One group of people that Ancient Egyptians painted with the same dark reddish brown colour as themselves are coincidentally a group of people who still have dark reddish browm skin today, Puntites (Horners) 3. All Egyptian settlements prior to Egypt were in the South and they show an upward migration in to Egypt not a Southwards migration from the Middle East. 4. They were Afro haired, this is proven by the wigs Queens wore which were made from hair from the barbers, You can google these and see for yourself. I know that the desire to be a part of Ancient Egypt is big amongst everyone but it should never lead to erasure of the truth.

@Wesley-ls5wh

3 жыл бұрын

@Ario 1 the issue is not the admixture of Horners, that is obvious just by looking at them. they are black and can never be called caucasoids. 50% of their DNA is Bantu. The issue is you saying Caucasians are responsible for Egypt!! Which is not True. Egypt was founded by Horners who left the horn. Pure Sub Saharans also ruled in Egypt besides the obvious 25th Dynasty of Nubia, The 20th Dynasty was also Sub Saharan African examples like Pharaoh Setnakhte, Ramses iii, Rameses iv, Rameses V, Rameses vi, Rameses Vii were all of the haplogroup E1b1a which is a west african haplogroup.

I can see that this guy knows what he is talking about but his accent is a bit hard to understand. Not a hit at any of the guest of the channel but maybe adding subtitles would be a good thing.

@Wallyworld30

3 жыл бұрын

OMG, I didn't even realize he was speaking English until I read your post. This needs CC STAT!

@barclayholmes5982

3 жыл бұрын

I thought he was speaking French

@tbop2864

3 жыл бұрын

Subtitles essential.

@stefanodadamo6809

3 жыл бұрын

He's Spanish. As an Italian I can understand his Castillian Spanglish. :D

@MWhaleK

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed, his accent combined with the slightly bad sound make him a little hard to understand.

Here's a transcription of Dr. Juan Carolos Moreno Garcia's half. (a few words were beyond reach). Cheers. -----cut here----- Many thanks to you Nick for the very nice invitation to talk and to discuss with you. I'm really very very excited also to discuss it with you and to have a nice time talking about the things that interest us so much. --- Well, it's a crucial question. I think that it's not so much work made about these kind of things. Well, I imagine that in some cases you can detect some particular genome or some aspect or parts of the genome that may refer to - I don't know - to foreign territory, but also for instance the analysis of tooth - your teeth, the ? and composition and so on may indicate for instance the people were born in fact very far from Egypt. I think perhaps there is a lot of information to gather from that. For instance, ? ? ? ? it was quite funny because it was a discovery made I think in Israel. When the archeologist found four donkeys that were buried in this city, and when they analysed the teeth of the donkeys suddenly they realized they came from the Nile Valley. So these donkeys were rised(?) (raised?) and so on, and it was at the very very later stage of their lives that they arrived in Israel and were sacrificed there. So suddenly this analysis of the tooth illustrate contexts in which perhaps Egyptians were travelling to the Levant to make their business and so on. It's quite sometimes counter-intuitive because we have this common idea that it was always foreigners who arrived into Egypt with their flocks to trade, and so on. No, perhaps here we have exactly the contrary. An invisible train, economic train, or economic aspect that only ? can reveal. So I think the similar thing may be possible for instance for analysis of people living in Egypt. Perhaps one day we can know for instance if some particular populations were sitting in a particular locality - why and so on. Perhaps for the moment I think we should be more attentive to the use of some particular markers. For instance, sometime at the very very late third millennium before Christ, there was a ? locality in the western delta it's called ?, and the Egyptian archeologists discovered in the fifties a group of tombs that were completely strange to the burial practices of ancient Egyptians. They were, what is called, warrior tombs. I mean, they were tombs with very particular kinds of Levantine weaponry and so on. It's quite unique in Egypt. I think the only parallel we can find much later is at Tell el-Daba. So that may prove simply that a small colony of people from the Levant were praying there at the particular period in which this area of Egypt became a main and major commercial route between the Mediterranean and Egypt. But in any case I think it's at least a potential of genetics can cast a lot of new light on these topics of ethnicity in ancient Egypt. --- I think, yes. Perhaps because, well, imagine for instance that I don't know a colony of Nubians settle in a small area in Egypt. Perhaps in the first generation they settle in a particular neighborhood. Afterwards, their sons, their grandsons and so on, they marry with Egyptians and so on. They live a perfectly normal life, they were Egyptians. But if we analyze, perhaps, I don't know, some aspect of their DNA that reveals they came from Nubia, perhaps we, modern Egyptologists, we would be very tempted to say they were Nubians. And perhaps they saw themselves as Egyptians living a perfectly normal Egyptian life. So it's very, we should perhaps be very very cautious. Perhaps if we find, I don't know, that they were still participating in some very distinctive religious cults, or something like that. We can say, well, they remain as a separate community. We can think for instance the Jew community at Elephantine, in the Persian period. They were garrisoned; completely separated from the Egyptian population. They had a lot of conflicts with them because of religion and so on. But in a lot of cases I think it is very difficult to find these kind of very very specific communities. What really separated from the Egyptians - perhaps the exception - is the case of military personnel. We know they were settled sometimes in specific colonies. But I think after a while probably they simply by inter-marriage and so on, they became assimilated into the main ancient culture. --- Well, I don't think so because, and there has been a lot of, as I said, Egypt is a really crossroads of populations. You can imagine for instance in the Greco-Roman period there were tens of thousands of Greeks that were settled in Egypt for two or three generations. Perhaps they preserve their Greek identity, but we know they became bilingual, they married Egyptian women and so on. So there was a contribution from people from Greece, from Rome and so on. We also know that at ? ? for instance the Roman Empire, there was immigration from peoples from Algeria to the Nile Valley; they settled there and so on. There was of course a ? of people from Arabia, when the Arabs conquered Egypt in 632 perhaps something like that. So and there was a massive arrival of Arabic people. Once again Egypt was also a crossroads for the Red Sea harbors, when used by people from all North Africa to do their annual pilgrimage to Mecca. So we know in many cases they settled in Egypt. Cairo became one of their most famous and biggest universities in ? ? (Ancient Egypt?), so it attracted people from the Arab world and so on. So I think that the contribution of the Ottoman peoples and so on was very important. So I think there is - you know and all these populations were assimilated by the Egyptians, but I think that in some way they mark a lot of the aspects of culture for - I don't know - perhaps the analysis again of DNA may contribute a lot of these kind of things. We have texts that speak about the arrival of tens of thousands of people, that while it's, fortunately they have left their mark in this kind of a melting pot that was Egypt. As it happens always with this kind of cultural growth, where people from different origins meet, at the end they develop a single culture but they come from very very different colour origins.

@Coden11

3 жыл бұрын

Oh my goodness. You're a fkn boss. Most everyone else just whines.

@Zoltar69

3 жыл бұрын

Well done. Kudos!

@EPUEPUEPUEPU

3 жыл бұрын

Great job

@WWZenaDo

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@juandamyles9797

2 жыл бұрын

If you could set this transcript up where you can copy it and send would be appreciated. It will get buried when more people add comments.

Congratulations on hitting 100k Nick!! You work so hard and you completely deserve it completely! Keep it up brotha! ⭐️

Years ago I was a bartender at a fancy hotel's restaurant and I think I was watching something about Cleopatra on the bar's TV and one of the servers (a 40ish y.o. black dude) walked up to me while glancing at the screen. He exclaimed: " Ah, Cleopatra- My Nubian Princess!" Me, never being the most tactful individual replied: "Dude Cleopatra was a Ptolemy- she was Greek!" The look he gave me wasn't very pleasant and he walked off without saying anything... Later that evening he returned and told me out of the blue he wished he "could break my arm..." I asked him to repeat that which he did. Next day I told the F&B manager and went on a three day Memorial weekend at the beach forgetting the incident. When I returned to work that next Tuesday the cooks were all thanking me- they fired that guy. He was a real dick. Later on he threw a beer bottle and smashed out one of my car windows. I guess he showed me! Anyway ancient Egypt was a complicated place and a lot of races moved in and out of there. But Cleopatra was definitely a Greek that's for sure.

@EPUEPUEPUEPU

3 жыл бұрын

@Bobby Rubarb You do realize having genetic ancestry does not necessarily mean you look like your ancestors right? kzread.info/dash/bejne/l5aDy62ipZDLqKw.html

@EPUEPUEPUEPU

3 жыл бұрын

@Bobby Rubarb How about you focus on the fact that the same genetic ancestry related to asians are in people who dont look like asians?

@tokeo3565

3 жыл бұрын

The historian just told you that the ancient Egyptians were metropolitan

@intractablemaskvpmGy

3 жыл бұрын

@@tokeo3565 And the point of your comment is...?

@EPUEPUEPUEPU

3 жыл бұрын

@Emilio Zapata I never said she was black, did i ? kzread.info/dash/bejne/c4qsxNOoYM6tpdI.html

I wish that I could get a transcript in English I have to watch this at least 5 times to understand what he is saying.

@einwaldlux755

3 жыл бұрын

that's why i don't watch videos with that guy anymore, it literally gives me headaches.

@shainazion4073

Жыл бұрын

It is posted right above your comment.

@wilb6657

Жыл бұрын

Buddy, you need better headphones. I cant understand this dude perfectly.

@Dollah124

Жыл бұрын

​@@wilb6657 I'm listening to a speaker and can't understand.

I wish there were closed captions available for this video. He is soooooo hard to understand and I want to know what he's saying. I've listened 3 times and still can't make out everything he's saying.

@lackbruna

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. I tried to watch this video more than a couple of times now but unfortunately still can't understand most of it. Closed captions is definitely a must.

Content keeps getting better. Thanks for uploading.

Great content as usual.

@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!!

Nothing about DNA.

@wholesomemasculinity694

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, saved me from wasting my time

@allopez8563

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@emilydowepa-c8975

Жыл бұрын

Thanks saved me time

@lamorena6379

10 ай бұрын

Thanks. I was starting to watch it. Glad you warned me.

@FrshJurassicPrnceYA

Ай бұрын

@ruhituncer5943 You clearly didn’t finish the video as he says at the end that the constant invasions and migrations from Eurasia impacted modern Egyptian DNA. He says that modern Egyptians are different genetically than ancient Egyptians. Which is obvious for any with even a hint of common sense.

Topic sounds interesting. Alas, I not could understand what the guest was saying at all. It needed subtitles or perhaps somebody doing voiceover in more understandable English.

Subtitles would have been greatly appreciated for this guest speaker :)

@Bramann1970

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not Latino and I understand him. I bet he speaks English better than you speak Spanish.

@phillyguy2157

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bramann1970 I can't understand him either! And I came here to get information from him but I just can't understand him at all. His accent is very thick.

@arthurlin5170

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bramann1970 people just can't understand some of the words he say, STFU

@zochbuppet448

Жыл бұрын

@@Bramann1970 He has a french accent. He sounds more French than Spanish "Juan Carlos Moreno García (PhD in Egyptology, 1995) is a CNRS senior researcher at the University of Paris IV-Sorbonne, as well as lecturer on social and economic history of ancient Egypt at the École des Hautes Études en Sciences Sociales (EHESS) in Paris."

@solomon7072

Жыл бұрын

I couldn't understand him at all!

Can you add subtitles please?

I've always been fascinated with ancient egyptian history.

Wonderful. I've wondered how at the end of the 17th dynasty the Theban royals were capable of overcoming their militaristic superior the Hyksos. Who was the Theban army they used to accomplish the rebellion? I want to know everything about this.

@walterulasinksi7031

3 жыл бұрын

With the proper considerations of archeological evidence and an understanding of construction engineering, along with the only narrative that can cover this portion of time, it would be that the Hyksos incursion. Occurred Circa 1750BCE and prior to that, there had been a migration of people from the Levant. Based on this, and that in the Nike Delta, the silty soil deposits. And using available river rocks for foundations, it would not be possible for megalithic type stonework to be supported so the notion that RamsesII was the Pharaoh of the Exodus cannot be maintained as the stonework from the city of Ramses at a Tanis was moved there by Susennes II, Circa 950 BCE. That being. Stated the only type if building structures coul only support dried Mud Brick as considered in the Hebrew story of the Exodus, as “ Then there was a Pharaoh that did not know of Joseph”. This is indicative that the Hebrews in 5he delta( Goshen) had preceded the Hyksos by many generations, since both the Stele of Ahmose and the Hebrew account attest to significant occurrences at the time of the volcanic eruption of Thera,Circa 1550 BCE, the Hebrew narrative can be considered as factual if not completely accurate as to the causes. The Hyksos Pharaoh would have had a weakened military and populace with the Exodus, and permitted Kamose to gain an advantage over the Hyksos thus permitting Ahmose to finally drive the Hyksos out of the Delta and with meeting. The Hebrews in the southeastern portion of theDead Sea Valley, re form an alliance to together drive the Hyksos from all strongholds in the Levant, such as Jericho, (. Destroyed Circa 1500 BCE ) north to the border of the Hittites/Assyrians. Thus leaving the Hebrews in the Levant as allies under Egyptian protection withJudges as the administrators in Israel/ Judah.

@SisterWomen

3 жыл бұрын

@@walterulasinksi7031 I've definitely read the conjecture. Which is what you delineate. I don't think its fully accurate. Seneqtenre Ahmose, his son Seqenenre Tao both died very quickly against the Hyksos. Despite their deaths, Tetisheri somehow maintains power and someone trains Kamose in battle. Ahmose is however not as skilled since he dies after riding Kamose coattails to victory. What changed in the interval between Senenqtenre Ahmose and his grandson Ahmose which gave them the militaristic advantage? Allies to their south appear to have been married into the royal family, laying the foundation for the military coup which would eventually fell the 18th dynasty. I do think there are missing pieces and that the narrative as related has several gaffes.

Congrats to 100k subs 🥳

@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Andrew!

To be honest I struggled to understand this guy with your previous one hour podcast with him.

@biffinbelize

3 жыл бұрын

I found that .75 speed made it more coherent

@andybeans5790

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I dropped out of that one

This guy obviously has interesting things to say, but when I can make out his words, I get stuff like “warrior thumbs in the lemontime”. Lol. I really, really want to understand this. Ancient Egypt/Mesopotamia is my jam, but unfortunately this almost entirely unintelligible. Why would you do this to me??? Lol.

@woozyz2769

Жыл бұрын

I came here trying to find out if the ancient egyptians were black or white and watched countless of these dna mummy test videos and got nothing, like wtf are they trying to hide?

@evaulrikajansson62

Жыл бұрын

Genesis the first Book of the bible means gen of Isis the gen from the godess , the Egyptians new that the gens only came from the marturnal line and thats why farao had to marry his sister , the Starlight is in THE menstrual blood that virgin priestess produced during their kala ( their menstrual cykles was consumed by the priest in the Temple and by the royal familys ) because with in menstrual blood there is hormons and nutrition that stimulates your spinalcord to develope ( babys have growthhormons inside and the female Body produces this When she let of One egg) and all this extra hormons and nutrition is desposed of When she menstruat ) its custom amning very many indigionous people for women to consume their menstrual blood to avoid anemia and other decises, its from this practice we have the Word secret as in secrets secrets from the female Body. When you eat or drink menstrual blood One a regulare base your spinalcord become very much more developed and your own glance in THE Brain are stimulated to produce more hormons and stimuli it hightens your preception and awarness , this was discovered by the ancient people and are preserved with in THE Christian ritual the mass and drinkig of Jesus blood and Body , the virgins in THE Temple was called Scarlet women and the ritual drinking or eating their menstrual blood inbaked in bread or from the small chalice they inserted into their vaginas was called rittu, from there we have the Word ritual. Take My Body and eat Said Jesus this was what he was mimicking he certainly has No real knowledge what it meant .

Needs caption.

Thank you for this new found perspective!

@MrHlghands

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t thank him to fast. He basically said nothing. Of course we know that Egypt has had many types of people to occupy it. So there’s going to be a mixed of people. However with all that mixture look at the people of Egypt. The majority of them are still dark skinned. No matter how much we try to hide the fact that the original Egyptians were black, the evidence is starring at us today.

@rosalynbeatty8310

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrHlghands Right, even the yellow-dark mahogany toned Somalians, & Beja plus Oromo & Fellahin village Egyptians are direct decendants of ancient Khem or Egypt. These Podcasters stating the Khemistians were only pale olive--orange light tanned skin tone r color struck!

Does anyone know where we can read about the results for the 3 Abusir mummies where they got their full genomes?

@scienceandinspiration1362

10 ай бұрын

Google shormarka kieta Egyptian DNA

I can barely understand, what he's saying

Interesting content, just Subscribed! Would love to see a video on the physical descriptions of the Ancient Egyptians by the Greeks and romans (Herodotus, Aristotle, Lucian etc).

@matiusbond6052

2 жыл бұрын

yes,i agree. They all described them as black and brown AFRICANS

@shebsheb8850

2 жыл бұрын

@@matiusbond6052 No lol. Quit stealing our history just because you lack any.

@mnscd1657

Жыл бұрын

@@matiusbond6052 debunked black is new social construct teminlogy . its not same as black as u said.

@StandUpGill

Жыл бұрын

@@mnscd1657 they also described them as Ethiopic

@adventuresinmoodcitypod2000

Жыл бұрын

​@@mnscd1657 What in the world are you talking about ? They are " black " Africans, by any stretch of the imagination. You all keep trying to move the goalposts. They were African, had dark skin , many with prognathism & full features . What does that tell you? Smh

Rest in peace, Nick. I am still watching.

Thanks for the camera angle👍

Last time I was this early race hadn't been invented

@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449

3 жыл бұрын

As always, I am happy to have you here!

@nigelkhan5331

3 жыл бұрын

@Savethe Ypepo By the colonial master's About 200 years ago

@andrewboyle3770

3 жыл бұрын

@@nigelkhan5331 Race is real. Different races respond to drugs differently. So to a doctor Race is very important.

@christiandaugherty6339

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewboyle3770 A race is a species or sub-species. There aren't races of human, humans themselves are a race.

@nigelkhan5331

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewboyle3770 No race ain't real no human being referred to themselves as a race until the colonial era, the race thing was created by stupid people to divide themselves from everyone else and to justify things like slavery and oppression. Last time I checked the colonial master's were not God's, so to hell with the words & systems they created to oppress and dehumanize people in the name of greed and power. History taught to us in school is corrupted and misleading.

Really wanted to hear this so bad, subtitles pls!

Fascinating Content, Nick.

@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Diego!

Annoying AF. This guy is hard to understand and not really saying anything...

@defunctuserchannel

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, did he say any conclusive results?

What is this guy saying, couldn't understand his accent at all

@paul6925

3 жыл бұрын

Same. I usually don’t have too much trouble with accents but subtitles would really help here

@BrandonSL500

3 жыл бұрын

I could understand him somewhat and he is not really saying anything you don't already know.

@dreamdiction

3 жыл бұрын

ponya ponya matinji maningi.

@blackgenesisbegins4192

3 жыл бұрын

He said modern Egyptians are not the same as ancient Egyptians due to the influx of peoples from the Maghrebi, Western Asia and Southern Europe.

@dreamdiction

3 жыл бұрын

@@blackgenesisbegins4192 Ancient Egyptians are Caucasians, modern Egyptians have a higher percentage of African DNA.

07:16 "Methodius asked a very controversial question. And that is: are Modern Egyptians mostly the same as the Ancient Egyptians? And if not, why?" Answer: "I don't think so, because there has been a lot of, as I said, Egypt is really a crossroads of populations. You can imagine for instance, in the Greco-Roman period, there were tens of thousands of Greeks that were settled in Egypt. For 2 or 3 generations perhaps they preserved their Greek identity, but we know they became bilingual, they married Egyptian women and so on. There was a contribution from people from Greece, from Rome, and so on. We also know that for instance at the end of the Roman Empire, there was a migration of peoples from Algeria to the Nile Valley. They settled there and so on. There was of course the arrival of people from Arabia. The Arabs conquered Egypt in the 652 AD perhaps something like that. So there was *a massive arrival of Arabic people* . Once again, Egypt was also the crossroads, the Red Sea harbors were used by people from all of North Africa to do their annual pilgrimage to Mecca. So we know that in many cases they settled in Egypt. Cairo became one of the most famous and biggest universities in the region, so it attracted a lot of people from the Arab world and so on. So I think the contribution of Ottoman people and so on was very important. All these populations were assimilated by the Egyptians." To add from prof. dr. Luca Pagani: "Using ADMIXTURE17 and principal-component analysis (PCA)18 (Figure 1A), we estimated the *average proportion of non-African ancestry in the Egyptians to be 80% and* dated the midpoint of the *admixture event* by using ALDER20 to around *750 years ago* (Table S2), consistent with the *Islamic expansion* and dates reported previously.13, 14" Source: (AJHG, CELL PRESS) Tracing the Route of Modern Humans out of Africa by Using 225 Human Genome Sequences from Ethiopians and Egyptians Luca Pagani, etc.

nicely done.

This is why I got a degree in history and biology-to focus on these moments when science and history come together to give answers to historical questions.

@JapanSpr94

7 ай бұрын

It is a very exciting time in history and science. I have degrees in Biology and Law. I find myself applying my scholastic knowledge to archaeology.

The "Egyptians" and the Kushites considered themselves and referred to themselves as sister nations. Kush even at one time defended Egypt from invaders and returned rulership to the royal family instead of taking rule.

@iamgood455

2 жыл бұрын

egyptians were debicting nubians in their sandeles

@rosalynbeatty8310

2 жыл бұрын

@@iamgood455 Sometimes. Many Nubian women were picked as queens.

What about y and mt dna haplogroup results on very ancient Egyptian mummies, if obtainable?

@loksterization

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and they are said to be European.

@rosalynbeatty8310

2 жыл бұрын

@@loksterization Europeans traveled up from Africa, the original place of mankind. Europeans & Asians began as black people whose body, hair, ect. changed over time because of cooler weather conditions. Ancient Europeans were black-brown skinned. So were the ancient Egyptians.

@loksterization

2 жыл бұрын

@@rosalynbeatty8310 there's absolutely no evidence for that, it's wishful thinking. Evolution is a hoax.

@acaydia2982

Ай бұрын

@@rosalynbeatty8310 That’s been debunked. No single point of origin of mankind. They evolved at separate points in Africa. Dark skin doesn’t mean black. Back to Africa Migration is the source of Ancient Egyptians during the Neolithic Revolution.

@butziporsche8646

25 күн бұрын

@@rosalynbeatty8310 You mean they evolved?

The Old Kingdom (earliest) is of particular importance .. ie. the pyramids - Cheops . Hope you research it further

@dvrmte

2 жыл бұрын

According to the preliminary report, they now have 4,000 years of ancient Egyptian genetic history recorded. The specifics aren't published yet, but that means they have Predynastic and the Old Kingdom covered. They claim the determined haplogroups matched those of the 2017 study, so they were Eurasian from the beginning. From the full genomes they found the genes for light skin were common, and that the foreign invasions had little effect on their DNA. Here's the abstract from the preliminary report for the ongoing study: Urban et al, 2021 Human mitochondrial hapologroups and ancient DNA preservation across Egyptian history "Egypt represents an ideal location for genetic studies on population migration and admixture due to its geographic location and rich history. However, there are only a few reliable genetic studies on ancient Egyptian samples. In a previous study, we assessed the genetic history of a single site: Abusir el-Meleq from 1388 BCE to 426 CE. We now focus on widening the geographic scope to give a general overview of the population genetic background, focusing on mitochondrial haplogroups present among the whole Egyptian Nile River Valley. We collected 81 tooth, hair, bone, and soft tissue samples from 14 mummies and 17 skeletal remains. The samples span approximately 4000 years of Egyptian history and originate from six different excavation sites covering the whole length of the Egyptian Nile River Valley. NGS based ancient DNA 8 were applied to reconstruct 18 high-quality mitochondrial genomes from 10 different individuals. The determined mitochondrial haplogroups match the results from our Abusir el-Meleq study. Our results indicate very low rates of modern DNA contamination independent of the tissue type. Although authentic ancient DNA was recovered from different tissues, a reliable recovery was best achieved using teeth or petrous bone material. Moreover, the rate for successful ancient DNA retrieval between Egyptian mummies and skeletal remains did not differ significantly. Our study provides preliminary insights into population history across different regions and compares tissue-specific DNA preservation for mummies and skeletal remains from the Egyptian Nile River Valley."

I don't understand what he's saying. Where are the ancient Egyptians from?

@heidismith8970

3 жыл бұрын

Kanda 2021 thanks

very hard to understand mr. moreno, perhaps subtitles.

Was wondering if you’ve done anything about Greek dna and then I see your shirt😂😂😂 im sure you have! I’ll subscribe just because of that Ancient Greek support! ❤

He speaks about all the admixtures of different people into Egypt changing their culture. But Egypt was always a crossroads and even in ancient times constantly had a mixture of other peoples coming in. I wager that modern and ancient Egyptians are more similar than not.

@karinschultz5409

3 жыл бұрын

That's what the Christian Copts believe as well. They are descendants of Ancient Egyptians.

@toddthompson5718

3 жыл бұрын

Depends on how ancient you mean. Likely there is more difference between the old kingdom and ptolemaic period than between the ptolemaic and today.

@damo5701

3 жыл бұрын

There is a higher African DNA component today than in the ancient Egyptians, who were close to peoples from the Levant DNA wise.

@listenup2882

3 жыл бұрын

@@damo5701 nonsense! The Ancient Egyptians were Black Africans!

@damo5701

3 жыл бұрын

@@listenup2882 Nope, plenty of red haired mummies have been found including 5000 year old old ginger and Rameses II.

It should be common sense that the Modern day Egyptians are not the same genetically as the ancient Kemetians. Over 13 different invading populations settled there and mixed with the Original African population. The Ancients claim their ancestral homeland as the land of Punt which is in East Africa, Diodorus Siculus said the Egyptians were colonist sent from Ethiopia further backing that claim. I'm glad the professor cleared that up Modern Egyptians are different from the Ancient Kemetians.

Im lucky to be Spaniard and can understand him perfectly, the problem was the bad quality audio😂

@dimtool

Жыл бұрын

As a a Mexican American, it was fairly easy to understand because he sounds like my dad lol

@brixcosmo6849

Жыл бұрын

As i do, being Portuguese! 😂

@Bigeddiecain

10 ай бұрын

I’m African in America it’s wasn’t so hard cause I work around Spanish people trying to learn English at least he soeak his original language unlike all the race of America in your comments

The sound is bad -the uses a bad microphone ? or very low bitrate on his voice recording -like a bitrate for modem 28.8 kbps -anyway getting old and deaf wont help making the sound better ( i guess)

I could not make out what the guest said mostly.

Ancient Egyptian genetics are a complex topic and subject to ongoing research and debate among scientists and scholars. However, studies of ancient DNA have suggested that the ancient Egyptians were a genetically diverse population, with genetic influences from both sub-Saharan Africa and the Near East. Some studies have also suggested that the ancient Egyptians may have had genetic connections to populations from the eastern Mediterranean, such as the ancient Greeks and Phoenicians.

@chrissmith9889

Жыл бұрын

Nope the ancient Egyptians are Africans...

@Randomuuzv

Жыл бұрын

@@chrissmith9889 proof

@tyiingram9878

Жыл бұрын

@@Randomuuzv that fact that they told you they came from the lands South. Champollion said they were of African stock. Need more

@tyiingram9878

Жыл бұрын

What’s complex about it. It’s simple, the ancient people were of African stock be the demographics change so to serve invasion. See how easy that was.

@GreatestOneEver

Жыл бұрын

@@chrissmith9889 They are north Africans (Egyptain, Nubian) not West Africans (Black Americans). There's no connection between west Africans and north Africans. They look completely different, for example the Nubians straight hair and north African facial features.

Dr Juan Carlos Moreno Garcia confirms and validates what so-called "Afrocentrics" have stated from day one. 1- Egyptian civilization is African/Black 2-The occupiers in the north of Egypt look nothing like the indigenous Egyptian population whose descendants are to be found in southern Egypt and beyond. As noted below: “Cosmopolitan Northern Egypt is less likely to have a population representative of the core indigenous population of the most ancient times.” History in Africa, pgs. 221-246 Dr. Shomarka Keita PhD Bio-Anthropologist/Geneticist Smithsonian Institute Howard University - Human Genome Cntr Oxford University American University @ Washington D.C.

The doctor was a great guest, very excited to talk about Egypt. And there were even some things here he said that have truth to it. However, not in the manner he’s projecting it. Sure, there were thousands of Greeks, Romans, Persians, Arabs and Nubians that settled Egypt. But their numbers were tiny compared to the size of the Egyptian population. We are talking tens of thousands of settlers among many MILLIONS of native Egyptians. It is numerically impossible for those settlers to have made a significant dent in the genetics of Egyptians. And now let’s look at genetics. We have the autosomal DNA of one upper Egyptian 12th dynasty Egyptian (the time period before any foreign invasions) and three Lower Egyptians from the New Kingdom to Roman period. All four of these samples are genetically similar to each other despite being from two different parts of Egypt and across several time periods. This shows massive genetic continuity. They cluster together on a genetic map (PCA) along with modern Egyptians of both muslim and christian faiths. When we compare these ancient genetics to modern Egyptian people, we get a Muslim majority that is vastly predominantly ancient Egyptian in genetics and also an Egyptian group of Christians called Copts that are near identical to the ancient Egyptian samples. The Copts are the only people in the world to retain the ancient Egyptian language (albeit an evolved version), sounds like something the purest descendants are capable of. So muslim Egyptians are very ancient Egyptian, but Coptic Egyptians are EXTREMELY ancient Egyptian (a near identical match). KZread deletes comments now with non-KZread links, but I have some screenshots of the DNA of ancient Egyptians compared to modern Egyptian that show continuity (PCA and distance comparisons) so if you have a way to accept screenshot links, I have some.

the mic quality did not help

Thank you. I understand him perfectly.

And this is something I’ve wondered about since studies had shown that Europeans share DNA with Tut. Was sorry I couldn’t understand the speaker.

@dvrmte

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, Tutankhamun had R1b and K haplogroups which are of Eurasian origins. The oldest R1b was extracted from the fossils of a 14,000 year old Western European hunter gatherer found in Italy. R1b was carried across the Sahara Desert when it was green, 5-10,000 years ago. It shows up in Chad the same time as pastoralism(animal herding). Europe and Africa are only separated by about 8 miles at the Strait of Gibraltor on the East side of the Mediterranean Sea. On the West side Africa is attached to West Asia and easy access to Europe. There have been many ancient Eurasian migrations deep into Africa. A new study shows evidence of Eurasian migrations since at least 40-70,000 years ago. www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.01.127555v1.full.pdf

@jopribashan8587

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao.. there are only 13 verified DNA mummies by museum in Cairo. A civilization of millions represented by only 13 mummies??? less than 10%.

@jopribashan8587

3 жыл бұрын

@@dvrmte geological, physical and linguistic evidence proves your DNA theory to be rubbish. no eurasian skulls or language found native to Nile Valley civilation. Lmao.

@sekoukelleh1003

3 жыл бұрын

Afro-Consciousness ---------------💥 ANCIENT EGYPTIANS DNA RESULTS Ancient Egyptians were black Africans like all modern inhabitants of Sub-Sahara Africa. The question of their race continues to trend in controversy because White supremacy still controls African education, and they dare not glorify their ex-colonies and slaves as masters of the ancient world. The debate started very early in the 18th to 19th century when most Africans were still under colonial domination and slavery. European researchers discovered that ancient Egypt was indeed the greatest civilization in antiquity, and it was BLACK AFRICAN. But they couldn't reconcile that revelation with the established views of White supremacy Meanwhile, the primary evidence comes from their forefathers. Especially the Greeks who saw the ancient Egyptians in their latter days, and described them as "extremely black skin with a frizzy hair. One of the Greek writers STRABO ( 64 or 63 BC - c. 24 AD) a geographer, philosopher, and historian who lived in Asia Minor during the transitional period of the Roman Republic into the Roman Empire writes : " The faces of the Egyptians of the Old Monarchy are Ethiopian ( meaning Blacks) but as the ages went on they altered from the constant intermingling with Asiatic types.” ( Geography of Strabo vol. 1) In a normal situation , eyewitnesses would suffice, but European continue to seek alien origin for an African civilization. To solve the puzzle once and for all, the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation (UNESCO) organized an international conference in 1974 in Cairo, and invited all the experts on the subject. Only two Africans were invited, Dr. Cheikh Anta Diop and Theophilus Obenga. The debate ended in favor of Black Africans. It was officially announced that ancient Egypt of the Pharoahs was African in its Language , culture and spirituality. In fact with the melanin dosage test of Dr. Diop, it was confirmed that the Royal mummies had extremely black skin. The result of this debate was published in a book "" General History of Africa" vol. 3 Fast-forward to the 21st century, the age of DNA. In 2017, a German named Johanne Krause from Max Plank Institute announced that ancient Egyptians DNA results showed Middle Eastern ancestry. The entire western media took the news and pasted it on all major sites. But a closer examination of the actual DNA analysis of Mr. Krause says something different . Firstly, 90 mummies were taken from ONE burial site at the border between Egypt and the Middle East. Non of the mummies collected were royals, and only THREE were suitable for DNA extraction. Secondly, most of the mummies exhumed do not date back to the classical periods of ancient Egypt. Most of them come from late periods when Egypt lost its independence to Asiatic invaders. The conclusion is simple, three dead bodies found in one unnamed grave cannot represent the ancestry of the entire population. This evidence is insufficient and inconclusive Interestingly, numerous DNA tests were carried out on the royal mummies previously and proved they were Black Africans. But somehow that didn't receive much publicity. 2012, Zahi Hawass DNA test on Pharoah Ramesu Hekayunu lll showed E1B1a gene , Black African DNA. The results were published in the BMJ. 2013, an American company called DNA TRIBES conducted similar test on royal mummies and the result is BLACK AFRICAN. To conclude, there's no doubt whatsoever about the race of ancient Egyptians. They wee black people like modern black people in Africa and the dispora. Anything contrary is white supremacy propaganda. Hotep.

@listenup2882

2 жыл бұрын

@@dvrmte this means those Europeans have African blood.

going through some of the ancient egyptian names and gods has me wondering whether they are the kalenjin people of kenya...any linguist here that we can team up with to either substantiate this or debunk it

@RayBuckner

Жыл бұрын

Check the writings and books by Cheikh Anta Diop, the Senegalese Egyptologist. He and his associate, Theo Obenga, an African linguistics specialist, conclusively showed that there was a close connection between the Ancient Egyptian language and other African languages. You can find some Diop interviews here on KZread. Let me know if you need more info.

@africanchildsouljah

Жыл бұрын

@@RayBuckner yes sure but i have first hand knowledge about this particular tribe from the language,culture and even they look like those people painted on the pyramid walls and i was mooting aplan to write abook about it

@RayBuckner

Жыл бұрын

@@africanchildsouljah that’s great. Their linguistic studies are extensive and they presented their findings at the UNESCO Ancient Egyptian Forum in Cairo, 1974.

@listenup2882

Жыл бұрын

The Kalenjin were one element derived from the Ancient Egyptian population.

@africanchildsouljah

Жыл бұрын

@@listenup2882 i thought so too since the ancient egyptian language is alot like kalenjin and the majority of the pharaonic names are actually kalenjin like tutmois,sewosret,senusret,sesostris,teti or teta,menkaur,chepren or khafre,necho or nekau,osorkon,luput,takelot,tiye,tuya,naimaa,seti or setat or setet,sheshonk,chepseskaf,hatshepsut,ramsiis and lets not forget the nandi name for god asiis or isis..the kalenjin hold the key to unlocking the ancient egyptian civilization and of sumer and akkad since cheptilet or enlil is from sumer and the maasai engai or enki is all from sumer what is the coincidence here?

Subtitles Please.....!

He might as well speak French.

@jasoncuculo7035

3 жыл бұрын

With English subtitles then the video would me more understandable.

Apparently they are east Asians.

Awasome topic

1:56 dr. Garcia flipping the bird for the tuff question!

Ancient Egypt was like New York you had everybody there. In the Delta you had peoples from the Levant and Aegean sea with communities or nomes. remember this whenever Hell broke out it was invasions into the Delta help came from upper Egypt

@moshenewsletter4620

3 жыл бұрын

You had nomadic people from Europe constantly invading African Sudanese culture, not coexisting..

@hamzab9368

3 жыл бұрын

@Ario 1 Funny bullshit

@listenup2882

3 жыл бұрын

Ancient Rome and Greece were like New York too. I suppose we can say that Ancient Greece and Rome were not caucasian civilizations.

@matiusbond6052

2 жыл бұрын

ancient Egyptians were black. GET OVER IT

@matiusbond6052

2 жыл бұрын

@Easy Bandz yes Europeans despirately want to associate with ancient Egypt

I am an Egyptian and I would like to comment on this matter. There are many people in the world who do not know the geographical nature of Egypt. Egypt is located in the continent of Africa, and the largest part in the continent of Asia is the city of Port Fouad, the city of Ismailia, and the Sinai Peninsula. They are located in the continent of Asia and their area is larger than the area of ​​the rest of Egypt and you and I To Africa because of the Nile River, because it is the cause of life in Egypt, so there is diversity in the skin of the Egyptians. There were kings for the ancient Egyptian state, kings of black skin, and kings of white skinned people, and the Egyptians did not have racism or discrimination between black people and white people, this racism It is an invention of the West

@originsandcivilizations3983

2 жыл бұрын

يعم هما متكلموش علي كده و بعدين مفيش ملوك سودة خالص ..المصرين القدماء كانوا عرق قوقازي ينتمو لشعوب الشرق الأوسط و البحر المتوسط هو ده الي التحاليل اثبتته..لكن المصرين لونوا نفسهم بألوان من ابيض لحد بني بملامح قوقازية..لكن في ناس اتلونت بألسود طبعا زي الكوشين او النوبين ملونين علب المعابد بملامح زنجية واضحة و لون اسود..غير كده المصرين برضه صوروا العراقين و الامازيغ البربر بنفس لونهم ملامح قوقازية بألوان من ابيض لبني لكن كان عندهم ذقن

@originsandcivilizations3983

2 жыл бұрын

@Vic Wilson no true ..i think u just have a ptoblem with the white man but thats has nothing to do with history ..all ancient egyptian mummies have caucasion skulls ..no black person have caucasiod skull ..they differentiated really well between how they middleastern looking people and how black dub sahran didkzread.info/dash/bejne/lJaN16atmbzHaLQ.html watch this 😏

@originsandcivilizations3983

2 жыл бұрын

@Sara Bee its egyptian history ..not black or white history and yes the middleast not white mostly brown people

@africanherbsman9488

2 жыл бұрын

Rubbish. They were black Africans. My ancestors,you were shelters and DNA have proved it,and the Egyptians painted themselves black so we know our history. By the way the Arabs are more racist than Europeans,just go to Libya. Racism is in Egypt even today and you know it.

@robertolang9684

Жыл бұрын

bingo

LoL i clicked the video without reading the headline, after the song ended i was like ohhh shit here comes the shitstorm

I am Egyptian Coptic supposed to be 100% Egyptian I want to do the DNA test however my mother is white blonde Egyptian I am curious what is my DNA is ..

@jopribashan8587

3 жыл бұрын

copt language never spoken in old kingdom. copt language not from Nile Valley .

Basically saying Egypt was original African but had a lot of influx from non Africans over thousands of years, making Egypt a mixed culture and DNA.

@trinisantana

3 жыл бұрын

Yup

@2naija

3 жыл бұрын

@Ario 1 Neither was it Levantines or middle-easterners. Black Africans were the first upper Egyptians, except you want to say Nubians were not black Africans.

@benicdovic5071

3 жыл бұрын

@Ario 1 what said here false,why to lie,there is no single white person in africa contient in ancient time,no exist whait people as native in africa,they don't feel a sheme to make dna in africa contient to if they were africa,what a doummy

@benicdovic5071

3 жыл бұрын

@Ario 1 please leave african history for african

@benicdovic5071

3 жыл бұрын

@Ario 1 you don't understand what i'm said,there is no white people in africa contient as native no exist place by name "middle east" in ancient yime,please leave african history for african,why all of you want african history,you don't claimed chinanese history or any country,by the way the current people who live in north africa and " middle east" came out of africa from cenetrsl asia,don't try to convice your self with D.N.A and another fake history

It's always people that don't originate nowhere near "Egypt"

Though I could understand most of what this man said by listening very carefully to him, I did not think that there was much here about ancient Egyptian DNA. There are mummies all over Egypt in tomb after tomb. How hard could it possibly be to gain DNA from them, including those from communities of foreigners who settled in Egypt, analyze it and find out how these various groups were related to each other and how they were related to other peoples who lived outside of Egypt?

@MedjayCommander

3 жыл бұрын

They know, but it's politics. If they tell you they were indigenous Afrikans (meaning black if we are using the western construct), European dollars will stop flowing.

@TheEarthRealm

2 жыл бұрын

Every pharaoh from the very first to the very last was Black. So when we're talking the royal family bloodline of the ancient Egyptians, I think that's what most people feel is important. (Ancient Egypt, which was actually named 'Kemet'- and translates to 'the black land' but was rebranded as 'Egypt'- meaning 'corrupt' later on by the Romans and Greeks upon invasion/colonization).

@Elias_Truth

2 жыл бұрын

Because they are BIASED lol. They will NEVER release all of the autosomal dna results of these mummies because it will be too controversial.

@pjay123

2 жыл бұрын

@@Elias_Truth some of us already know we are related to ramasess 3rd and we are black Africans.the Latar Egyptipns are from invaders. Everyone knows that.

@GhostSal

2 жыл бұрын

@@MedjayCommander people would stop going to one of the greatest wonders in the world because of race???? That’s absurd, you have to realize that. I guess that’s why the Caribbean is always empty and no tourists… Oh, wait, they actually have a lot of tourists… so racists can go to the Caribbean and other places that are Blk for vacation but not Egypt if the “secret” got out? That’s not how people think, they are intrigued by the Ancient Egyptians accomplishments and absolutely will still go. The whole world doesn’t live and breath racism, people that think like that are just projecting.

I'm from the middle of oklahoma. How do I have coptic Egyptian dna?

@charlieworley461

Жыл бұрын

White. Trace ancestry of coptic Egyptian and Cypriot. My mom and dad have their 23andme linked to mine so it's not just a guess.

@charlieworley461

Жыл бұрын

Those would be nubians right?

@robertolang9684

6 ай бұрын

@@charlieworley461 i can travce coptic in my dna not because of the nubians but because of tribes in anatolia that were iranic in origin and migrated to levant egypt in bronze age , celtic tribes were related to the egyptian and hittites french and other gallo people like me do carry egyptian dna

@charlieworley461

6 ай бұрын

Hell ya I went to egypt about 6 months ago. Was pretty cool you should go!

@charlieworley461

6 ай бұрын

@robertolamg9684 that's really interesting it would be so cool to see our true ancestors faces one day.

Truly fascinating and much of this can be applied to other cultures as well.

@tsa3b

Жыл бұрын

What did he even say 😅

@Emcee_Squared

Жыл бұрын

@@tsa3b he said the ancient Egyptians were not black

@tsa3b

Жыл бұрын

@@Emcee_Squared oh I could understand a word he said..I guess all Europeans lied then since they all stated they were,how many said they weren't...zero

@tsa3b

Жыл бұрын

@@Emcee_Squared so the logic is we can't question anything the ancient Greeks wrote about Europeans because it's all true but we have to question everything they said about Africans because they were lying? How confusing is that? Why is it a big deal that the claims of ancient Europeans have to be lying about Africans? Why would they only lie about Africans and say they definitely are black with curly hair

@Emcee_Squared

Жыл бұрын

@@tsa3b the more north you go the lighter skinned you are

Can't understand him

Instead of asking (are modern Egyptians the same as ancient egyptians, you should've asked two questions: -Which population in the world are the descendants of ancient egyptians? -are cows or dogs or Europeans, Africans in any given location are the same as in 7000 years ago?

In my opinion, the DNA of ancient Egypt has nothing to do with the modern. Just imagine, in 500 years the European colonies are people of different dna imagine Egypt that was invaded for millennia and by different white peoples like Hyksos, Turks, Persians, Greeks, Romans and Arabs.

I would love to see the genetic study. For those who say "Ancient Egyptians were not black" I understand your need to say so. The haplogroups of black people and the bones of the ruling classes have stated otherwise. I have found that Egypt was simply a metropolis which over time cultivated a unique culture. Definitely through the genesis of "black Africans." Of whom I believe to be a mix of Kushitic, Nilotic, Bantu and Asiatic. Somali people are probably the closes relatives to Ancient Egyptians.

@kingofcush

3 жыл бұрын

Your right the problem is these people will never understand words as the medjays or Kushites. Egypt was just a colony to be honest by the kushites. The kushites colonised Asia and all the way to the Americas through the Pacific. There is a king described in the Hindu scriptures the puranas! In there you have the people from the sun och they documented alot about the Kushites that colonised Indus Cush. The truth is coming out soon.

@adriandowney205

3 жыл бұрын

@Ario 1 Thanks. These are great articles. I'm going to conduct an in depth analysis and provide my arguments. As I have found some interesting information and studies. Greatly appreciated.

@adriandowney205

3 жыл бұрын

@Ario 1 So, I finally got around to studying these sources and the findings. I wanted to give a lengthy reply but instead I'm going to start my own channel. 1) Shotgun sequencing alone won't suffice. 2) these articles are mostly from the middle kingdom to Greco-Roman era. 3) it is only logical fragmented mitochondrial DNA won't tell a complete story. 4) Reisner, the FBI and most egyptologists are openly racist and have shady activities in their analysis. Finally, there are more well researched studies that have shown the skeletal, DNA and phenotype of the Egyptian proper were cushitic and Nilo Saharan mixed with Levantine and western asiatic. On my new channel I'll post sources and these articles you've provided. Thanks.

@user-ky3ph9nw2d

Жыл бұрын

I only care about science and DNA shows over 80 mummies were most similar to middle eastern

DNA, genetics, ancestry, lineage, heritage, heredity, clusters, markers, chromosomes, haplogroups, and strands could sometimes be misleading

@animegirls3219

Жыл бұрын

It's like people come up with every excuse to take away from the fact that true Egyptians we're originally dark and now they are like African Americans mixes with everything

@magnificent6668

Жыл бұрын

If it were true, it would be screamed off every rooftop. It is not so. DNA has proven this over and over--the skeletal evidence proves it. Move on.

@tyiingram9878

Жыл бұрын

Black genes are the strongest

Do you agree that the average Egyptian's ancestry has been similar to natifian since the bronze age?

@EPUEPUEPUEPU

3 жыл бұрын

The early natufians did not look like modern meditteraneans

@il967

3 жыл бұрын

@@EPUEPUEPUEPU They probably looked like Bediuns.

@EPUEPUEPUEPU

3 жыл бұрын

@@il967 They had subsaharan features

@il967

3 жыл бұрын

@@EPUEPUEPUEPU who? Natufians are still very genetically similar to middle easterners, and arabs and bedouins tend not to have sub saharan features. It depends on the Bediun group, but generally speaking, they have brown skin, slim nose, and straight hair. Some have sub saharan features due to the slave trade, but this is how the most isolated groups would look like. Ill

@EPUEPUEPUEPU

3 жыл бұрын

@@il967 There are multiple craniometric studies done on the natufians they all confirm craniometrics similar to subsaharans..For example kzread.info/dash/bejne/c4qsxNOoYM6tpdI.html

Egyptians are just a step between Cushites and Semites. They all had aquiline noses, whereas Cushites are dark-skinned while Semites are brown to light-skinned. The Egyptians were very brown.

When it comes to africa its like the fruet to the planet. The darker the berry the truer the roots

Ancient Mummy DNA: Krause's team compared the mummies' mitochondrial and nuclear DNA to ancient and modern populations in the Near East and Africa. They discovered that ancient Egyptians closely resembled ancient and modern Near Eastern populations, especially those in the Levant. What's more, the genetics of the mummies remained remarkably consistent even as different powers conquered the empire. It's possible that the mitochondrial genomes simply don't record the genetic contributions of foreign fathers, says Yehia Gad, a molecular geneticist at the National Research Centre in Cairo and a founder of the Egyptian Museum's ancient DNA lab who worked with Zink on past mummy studies. But the three mummies with nuclear genome data also show striking genetic continuity, Krause points out. Later, however, something did alter the genomes of Egyptians. *Although the mummies contain almost no DNA from sub-Saharan Africa* , some 15% to 20% of modern Egyptians' mitochondrial DNA reflects sub-Saharan ancestry. "It's really unexpected that we see this very late shift," Krause says. He suspects increased trade along the Nile-including the slave trade-or the spread of Islam in the Middle Ages may have intensified contact between Northern and sub-Saharan Africa. www.science.org/content/article/scientists-thought-ancient-egyptian-mummies-didn-t-have-any-dna-left-they-were-wrong

.75 speed and I understood more

as an English speaker from California, I can understand every word.

Need subtitles. Nobody can understand him.

@jari2018

3 жыл бұрын

I can -he talks english with italian accent

I find it very interesting that pharaoh rameses has E1b1a haplogroup.

Yep! I understood him. Thank you! Salute to the scholarship!

I mostly don't agree with this guy especially the part where he talks about the Nubians marrying the Egyptians when they were the same people if you listen to the transcripts it talks about how they came from Nubia they came from the mountain with two heads which is in

@originsandcivilizations3983

2 жыл бұрын

Egyptians were not nubians nor black i think u blind and liar watch this kzread.info/dash/bejne/lJaN16atmbzHaLQ.html💩

@turquoisepurple7sky151

2 жыл бұрын

@@originsandcivilizations3983 Actually they were. I suggest you read the book of genesis and understand Africa is a continent. The South Africans are shorter, the West Africans look similar, the SubSahara Africa are taller and darker similar to the Eastern Africans, but Eastern Africans are lighter, and are similar to the everyday black people I see. The Egyptians looked more Ethiopian, and Somalian amd Nubia. All of it encompasses Kush, Punt, Canaan and Ham. It is really sad how Europeans are so insecure about their own history that they put so much time into forcing others to think like you. Arabs were considered wanderes and not a race. Europeans in some ways was not eevn mentioned in the bible. Neantherthal DNA is not rampant in Ancient Egypt.

@turquoisepurple7sky151

2 жыл бұрын

@@originsandcivilizations3983 Lord have mercy. Will you people EVER STOP. YOU ALL ARE IN ALL the sauce and NEVER STICK TO YOUR OWN PEOPLE. I wonder why? Is it because you all really did not have any culture or history besides conquer people with Halloween, Easter, Valentines day, Christmas, Thanksgiving, etc.

@turquoisepurple7sky151

2 жыл бұрын

@@originsandcivilizations3983 There is no such thing called the book of Genetics. Even that right there, you all create stuff as you all go along to further make it seem lime you all are human. 🤣. You all will go through great lengths to make you all higher.🥴

@turquoisepurple7sky151

2 жыл бұрын

@@originsandcivilizations3983 They are related to the Sub saharan goofy. Where do you think the Cushites came from. You all really need some help

No need to check the DNA 🧬 of our ancestors.We kushite are still alive and we still speak our kushetic language of Somali,Oromo,Sidamo,Afar,Beja,Tutsi and many others who still live in the Horn of Africa..In Somali language there are a ton of words similar to ancient Egyptians and we still have some culture of FGM or clitrus cutting of girls.some of the words we still use it today.Like Ragheda or Barkin meaning pillow.Today Egypt is not ancient Egyptians.You have to go to the original homeland of ancient Egyptians which is in the Horn of Africa thats where you find the people of Taharqa the Kushetic Pharaoh who saved Jerusalem fro Assyrian...Meaning of Pharaoh is Somali means Fir means Dynasty,...Cown means Old...Pharoe means Old Dynasty in my kushitic Language...East Africa is ancient Egypt because today like those days you still find ancient Real Dark skin Hebrews living with Ancient Egyptians in Somalia..Our authentic Hebrews are called Ybir meaning Hbrew.And they look alike..That’s why Joseph looked like a Egyptian even his own brothers sai he did look like Egyptians..Jesus had to escape to Egypt to escape killers of Harrod.Why to hide among Egyptians he looked liked..Pharoe Ramses couldn’t tell Moses who he and his wife Asia raising in his palace were Hebrew or Egyptians.while at the same time pharaoh was smashing the heads of new born son of Hebrew kids to stop this nightmare he had.That Hebrews would curse his kingdom to death.

@butziporsche8646

25 күн бұрын

Ha Ha, nonsense. The Hebrews (descended from Eber) were the descendants of Noah's son Shem whereas the Kushites were descendants of Noah's son Ham.

People asking for subtitles are very culturally insensitive. His speech is fine. Watch it a second or third time as needed.

@jasoncuculo7035

3 жыл бұрын

No he needed to be more straight to the point on a few items as well, I don't care about his cultural background one way or the other. If he more concise there would of been time to explore, in his last question the differences between Old Kingdom and post Hyksos invasion DNA.

@k.avilla8061

Жыл бұрын

Stop being so bloody PC and read all the comments from all the people who cant under.stand him. He is so incomprehensible you even admit had to watch this 3 times. ' culturally insensitive' - grow up !

There is a reason my parents name me Thoth.......Smart People....I landed here on Earth this time, 65 years ago yesterday.

@TobiasQuintavalle

3 жыл бұрын

Thats pretty cool.

I could uh barely uh under uh stand uh him.

@Hevander75

3 жыл бұрын

firing shots at the Spaniard

It's apparent by this video there's still an extreme cognitive dissonance hurdle. Every human DNA test done matches existing Sub-Saharan Africans, especiallly but not exclusively to the Nile Valley, not unlike those donkeys in Israel do. So the entire "Nubian" compared to "Egyptian" (well... how are you defining an Egyptian when those ancient civilizations didn't call themselves Egyptian until after Greek arrival and the civilization was not founded nor built by Greeks) is flawed in the historical context that artifacts of supposed Nubians in Egypt don't differ from the artifacts of the actual rulers, other classes of "Egypt" prior to Greek conquest. The so-called Nubian genetics are the founding genes of the "Egyptian" (Kemety) civilization. The genes that tie Modern Egyptians to Egypt are the genes matching Sudanese Nubians, Hausa, Beja, etc., not the other way around.

@R2d2..

Жыл бұрын

Actually that’s not true. Nubians went in just like everyone else. Nubians always wanted to be called Nubian and not Egyptian and never identified as a Egyptian. Also the land Kemet… refers to the land and not to the people.

@kemetnubiakamp

Жыл бұрын

@@R2d2.. Nubia was inside of Kemet proper. Several municipalities inside of Kemet including the capital city of Kemet's first, and oldest, sepat have Nubian names. The original name of Kom Ombo was Nwbyt. What you claim has no truth.

@Cinnovations

Жыл бұрын

Apparently you haven’t studied Sudanese dna results hahaha

@kemetnubiakamp

Жыл бұрын

@@Cinnovations Abusir matches Sudanese men and women. Ramses III matches Africans throughout West, South, and Great Lakes African regions. Amarna matches West Africans paternally and East Africans maternally. All of this is as expected. Every classic Greek writer who ever wrote and eyewitnessed the pre-Greek Ancient Egyptians said they were of the Ethiopians and since the Greek Ethiopian often was any Africans in addition to Kushites then it should be expected than in 3000 years -conservatively- of dynastic Egyptian history that many Sub-Saharan Africans ethnicities held the throne. That's what the genetic studies reveal. The matches are in Sub-Saharan Africa just as 400 years of white Greek scholars wrote they were.

@kemetnubiakamp

Жыл бұрын

@@Cinnovations So to answer your statement. Not only have I studied all the genetic studies, I also have easily found their matches among modern Sub-Saharan Africans who don't distantly descend from the ancient remains. They match lock, stock, and barrel with the lock being genotypic, the stock being phenotypic, and the barrel being cultural matches.

For more info about the ancient Egyptians see this channel amazing amazigh.

French canadian? Good show as always.

@fuferito

3 жыл бұрын

Dr. Moreno Garcia? No. That's straight up Albanian...

Regarding the final comment of the guest, I believe that trying to cut modern day Egyptians from their ancient roots is unfair and wrong. It is true that many people wanted to settle in Egypt during the ages, because of its climate and riches. However, the Greeks who arrived at (mostly northern) Egypt were not as numerous as the indigenous population and basically formed an upper class that ruled the natives, not unlike the Spanish colonizers of some countries of South America. The same thing may be applied for the Arabs. Besides the Greeks and the Arabs never performed policies of genocide on the Egyptians, but they tried to intermarry, and the populations of Greece and Arabia were not larger that the ones of Egypt to begin with. On the contrary, the Greek rulers tried to look like and behave like Egyptians to rule the population, and ended up almost becoming Egyptians themselves (eg. Cleopatra ). Certainly, a cultural assimilation or evolution took place; the Egyptians now do not worship Ra. Of course the country is on cross-roads and there has been a mixture of peoples during the ages. But isn't this the rule for almost all places, begining with Europe? Even in Predynastic Egypt there has been a speculation for immigrations of peoples from multiples sides (Middle East, Sudan, modern Libya) to Egypt. As it has been always since Herodotus, "an Egyptian is one who lives in Egypt", and that's it. The Ancient Egyptians were diverse and from multiple ancestry to begin with. In my opinion there is a high probability that the modern day Egyptians share an ancestry of the ancient ones. Moreover, only because they live in the same country as the ancients and see these monuments all the time, this affects their mentality and give them a sense of national pride. There are some reports that even in Middle ages the Egyptians performed parallel to Islam , pre-islamic and egyptian origined ritual like burning incense at night in front of the Sphinx and pray, indicating some degree of continuity and evolution in the population. The same can be said about the Coptic language which is a direct descendant of the ancient Egyptian language.

@dvrmte

2 жыл бұрын

There are now hundreds of ancient Egyptian DNA samples analyzed. The main difference between modern and ancient Egyptians is that the modern Egyptians have more sub-Saharan DNA than the ancients. Sub-Saharan mtDNA begins showing up less than 2,000 years ago but primarily after the Arab Conquest of North Africa and the resulting trans-Saharan slave trade. The first Egyptians were much like their neighbors, the were a Mediterranean type people. Their basic ancestry is primarily West Eurasian and closely tied to the Near East. The core of West Eurasian ancestry was found in 26,000 year old DNA from the Caucasus Region. In short, the modern Egyptians are still the same as the ancient Egyptians for the most part.

@napoleonruss1528

2 жыл бұрын

You can’t cut off people from a history that is not theirs. Most of the people in Egypt now are descendants of Arabs who arrived after 600 ce. Though they may have some traces of ancient dna, they are not descendants of the originators of the culture. They are descendants of migrants and invaders. Even the dna that is currently being used to push the narrative that the ancient Egyptians were from the levant is the dna of migrants who arrived after 1600 bce. That’s 1000 years after the pyramids were built and over 2000 years after the unification of upper and lower Egypt Your argument is akin to claims that modern day European Americans are being cut off from their role in native civilzations of 800 years ago

@listenup2882

Жыл бұрын

The Ancient Egyptians were Black Africans.

They debicted themselves as caucasiod people with shades from white to tanned brown

@scottbirmingham7367

2 жыл бұрын

source!?

@originsandcivilizations3983

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottbirmingham7367 i have been to egypt ..its my study

@scottbirmingham7367

2 жыл бұрын

@@originsandcivilizations3983 oh yeah tht does it for me.just randomly believe some internet troll😁😂.sry im not tht stupid

@originsandcivilizations3983

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottbirmingham7367 believe what u like ..history is history ..science is science

@originsandcivilizations3983

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottbirmingham7367 believe what u like ..history is history ..science is science

While difficult to understand due to his accent, that there has been found traces of ancient DNA found of both Egyptian and Levantine origins in both Egypt and the Levant as well as other locations, does imply travel between locations of the ancient world and an be for various reasons. The DNA findings need to be considered along with Radio Carbon dating to have significance.

@walterulasinksi7031

3 жыл бұрын

@Ryon Worthy,I would agree that the archaic inhabitants of the Nile Valley were Africans of various origins.this would reconcile the archaic inscriptions such a “King” scorpion. Circa 3500 BCE? In that migratory patterns from Africa through Anatolia have been difficult to fully establish, the need for a combination of DNA ,Strontium and C14 data needs to be obtained and correlated, so that the patterns of haploid groups can fill in the period from Circa 3000-1500 BCE for migratory patterns.

@walterulasinksi7031

2 жыл бұрын

@Vic Wilson, While linguistics and anthropology, can be used within the known historical relations, since we do not have the indicators of such evidence for time spans of earlier contact, we still would need to consider RCD first. Even in the example hat was given, regarding donkeys, when were those donkeys living ? 1000 BCE, 2500 BCE? Earlier? While a presence can indicate contact at a given time, we can only surmise the reason for such contact. We could possibly surmise a migration if we have DNA evidence from various places at specific times. Eg: if the indicators have the comparative DNA at say southeastern Turkey circa 5000 BCE and none in the Nile Valley, but have evidence of that same DNA present in the Levant Circa 4000 BCE then find the same markers circa 3000 BCE in the Nile Valley, the pattern would seem io indicate a migration that would mix with an indigenous population. Therein lies the biggest difficulty. The available samples of datable DNA and the sites of discovery. From an anthropological stand point, we can state a major migration from Africa circa 75,000 years ago, but we cannot say wether there was a reverse migration 10,000 yeas ago.

His WHOLE answer was talking about it coming from the levant...telling!!!

The Copts are the closest population to ancient Egyptians today.

@scottbirmingham7367

2 жыл бұрын

who told u tht kid

@Andu_music

2 жыл бұрын

nope, hamitics are literal spitting image of ancient egyptians

@rosalynbeatty8310

2 жыл бұрын

Somalians, Felluhin Egyptians, Bejas & Oromo too.

@saber2743

Жыл бұрын

incorrect The current Copts are not originally a race and have become a Christian religion. This has nothing to do with race. Many Copts in Egyptian history converted to Muslims as well . Copts in present-day Egypt means Christians only, but in the history of something different and has nothing to do with religion

so absolutely no answer on dna. re listened to so much of what he said to get the gist. What a waste of time. no more for me buddy

For all the people that didn’t try understand is just def to the truth it’s not hard to understand this

So basically what he's saying is that they're mixed Egyptians that were African and some European therefore just like any other ethnicity or race there's a mixture some are black and some were white?

@rosalynbeatty8310

2 жыл бұрын

@Irma Medina: Race does not exist. It's a manmade lie. A colorist scheme (invented by European fake scientists. It was created in order 2 have palest people on top. Medium inbetween -- & darkest people @ the bottom (having little intellect & evolution)'God does not see black or white, He see's only the hearts.' Writings of Baha'u'llah. Theres only 1 race, the human race.

Anyway Egyptian genetics is quite a mess for the reasons our professor explained. An in-depth analysis of the historically known movements of people into the coutnry could require hours. The "original" Egyptians for the times of the legendary "Scorpion King" and Narmer were probably not very much different from the Nubians, apart being likely somehow lighter-skinned beacause of intermixing with proto-Berbers. The history of the country thenceon can be seen as a sort of gradual further "whitening", apart the single episode of the "black dynasty" of Nubian conquerors around 750 a.C. First were the so-called Hyksos from the Levant, then the "Sea Peoples", partly Indo-European, partly "Pelasgians", post-Minoic of whatever; then again waves of Middle Easternes (Assyrians, Persians) and, increasingly, Greeks; some Romans from very distant lands, even Numidians as said. Arabs were fundamental, though never in such numbers as to become a majority founder population or replace the existing genetic set. Arabs came in srveral waves, not only during the original conquest but much later (The Hilali Bedouins in the 11 the century, who were later expelled westwards to Arabize North Africa; various other nomadic tribes and clans especially in the south of the country from around 1300 to 1500, who ended up Islamicizing and Arabicizing Nubia and Sudan at large). How can we discount then the Mameluks? These soldier-slave caste must have left a significant trace; most of them were Turkic-speaking Eurasians or Circassians from the North Caucasus and Black Sea regions. Turkish speaking people of every genetic origin from Turkey were numerous after the 1519 conquest. Evene a number of Magyar form Hungary and Bosniaks were settled by Turks in Upper Egypt... This is a storied country, in which you cannot expect such relatively compact common genetics as, say, in Japan.

@listenup2882

3 жыл бұрын

The indigenous Egyptians were Black Africans.

@stefanodadamo6809

3 жыл бұрын

@@listenup2882 an oversimplification. The original Egyptians were somewhat darker than those of today. They were undoubtedly a native (northeast) African civilization. They weren't defined by any modern "racial" idea though.

@rosalynbeatty8310

2 жыл бұрын

@@stefanodadamo6809 Right, race is an invention of European colonialists. In order to justify the transatlantic slave trade.

The ancient Egyptians were Chinese just like the Mayans and Aztecs were Chinese. Mongoloids are the best architects in the world

@Indefenseoftheafricandiaspora

2 жыл бұрын

What ypur proof of this unheard of tale?

@listenup2882

2 жыл бұрын

Lol Romans and Greeks were Chinese too right?

@TeenGlamBoxx

2 жыл бұрын

nope they were black africans

@rosalynbeatty8310

2 жыл бұрын

This ignorance matters! Egypt is in Africa! The only tribes in that continent that resemble Chinese a bit r Khoi & San.

@brandycoke713

Жыл бұрын

No they wasn't they was black

I have a small percent of Egyptian and Levantine and Ashkenazi DNA 🧬 and the data marking points to 1500's and back. I was adopted and quite surprised Egyptian and Levantine, then next was Austronesian, Then Chichimecan and Indigenous on my mother's side, then the Italian and Portuguese, then Mongolian Chinese, Siberian and Scandinavia, then I have Turkish Greek, Then my father's German Irish and Scottish and his Indigenous from Canada. The Levantine Ashkenazi and Egyptian were of 16-17OO fascinated me for sure. And then the Asian Mongolian Chinese Siberian Scandinavian was also unique at the time period and showed where they intermigrated to benefit one another. And am especially proud of my Chichimecan and Indigenous heritage.

I don't believe it's possible to categorize Ancient Egyptians DNA as a whole. Simply because the different time periods, it's geographical location, the separation of villages, and what it took to be a Egyptian back then. Not talking about the Royals and their families, I'm talking about your everyday Egyptian people. The south, and North already had distinctions since predynastic times. They looked more Negroid in the South but, not saying they were Negro. And a more Levant/Mediterranean/Egyptian look in the North then that collided into a single group so it's a very mixed population in the past.

Allow me to truly Define ancient Egyptians... African!! ✊🏿🌍💪🏿💥

@TheWinterShadow

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds intelligent to me.

@robertmann9095

2 жыл бұрын

We was kangs

@KushQueen9

Жыл бұрын

!!!!!

@Pangolin-Mandolin

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I agree. I think that it's highly unlikely that a country called, 'the black land's was named for something like the soil (as a few people have hypothesized) rather than the most notable feature of the people who lived there, their skin! You gotta keep in mind, the people we call Egyptians today are not the same people who inhabited the area during ancient times. I find it difficult to accept that a people would be able to live and build a civilisation such as that in such a harsh climate and not have extremely dark skin. There's also many examples where the Egyptians themselves, state that they came from the south.

@wendygolding3564

Жыл бұрын

I doubt that any people would depict themselves as different in colour to what they actually are.