Thank you for this video!

Cool setup 😎

@Ultimatestudiosinc

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Thanks for the videos.just stumbled across your channel.how would you compare the sound this console to maybe an api or ssl?

Excelente

@Ultimatestudiosinc

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Hey love your videos, when you send signals to your board do you match the panning in from the daw,or come out panned center and position the pan on the board

@blvkqmusicgroup

Жыл бұрын

It needs to match

Hi! Thank you for this, as I am going to integrating a console into my setup. On your print chain, is it connected in anyway to your motu’s? Are they clocked together? Are the 2 computers separate?

@Ultimatestudiosinc

Жыл бұрын

Hey Dan! The two computers are completely separate as far as clocking is concerned. So the Apogee is not connected to the MOTU's at all. The only connection between the 2 computers is via ethernet and that is just to slave Logic on the Print Machine to Logic on the Main Machine so they stay in time.

Any specific reason you have the 542s before the ssl eq? Funny, I just got both of those too but I was thinking to have the eq first. Of course Im gonna try all scenarios even the 542s after the mix bus compressor

@Ultimatestudiosinc

Жыл бұрын

For a long time I had the 542s after the EQ. I did a lot of mixes that way and for the most part it worked pretty well. Having said that I found the gain staging to be finicky sometimes and I felt like I wasn't getting the most out of the Ultraviolet. The 542s have some EQ type functionality with the red and blue silk. While the silk isn't technically eq it is in the mix. Plus at lower saturation settings there is a low end bump which can be quite nice but also too much sometimes. Having the Ultraviolet after the 542 can help shape that effect nicely. Speaking of the silk I like how it interacts with the Ultraviolet when it's before more than I did when it was after. The UV also has output trim which means the 542 can be driven hard if desired and trimmed after the eq. Overall I just really like how the C1-->542-->UV interact in that order.

@MountainViewStudio

Жыл бұрын

@@Ultimatestudiosinc gotcha! yeah Im very familiar with the silk blue and red- I have the RND 5059 and the RND MBP, and even tho I don't think I'm gonna use the 542's silk even with having them on the mix bus they'll add that analog tape flavor. Thx for the info, gonna try all configurations!

Hi, the MOTU 2408 mk3 is quite old, what do you use it for? does it still work for you? which one do you recommend to work hybrid with console, at least for 24 channels

@Ultimatestudiosinc

Жыл бұрын

I have a pair of 24i/o's plus two 2408 mkIII's. They are old but sound great and I've had no problems with them for years. I'm still PCI and the MOTU 424 card has been rock solid. Depending on your budget you have quite a few options. A pair of MOTU 16A's would get you 32 i/o. I really can't say enough good things about my MOTU gear and I am seriously considering a rack of 16A's when I finally make the jump to a new computer. The Antelope Audio Orion would get you 32 channels in one unit at a reasonable price. A good friend of mine uses the Persons Quantum 4848 and loves it. Check out the Mixing Music Analog channel. David does a comparison of the Persons vs UA and it's eye opening. The Lynx Aurora is nice too but the price starts to jump. They sound fantastic though. You also have the Focusrite and Apogee gear. Apogee is awesome (love my old Rosetta!) but pricey. I haven't used much of the Focusrite stuff so I can't give an opinion but a lot of people love it.

@FateGathersStudios

7 ай бұрын

I also use two 2408's. They may be old, but they are still more than capable. I use a different approach and use a digital mixer using the TDIF ports from the interface to/from the mixer, and then use the 16 analog i/o to go to an external rack patchbay. I just learned after years of owning it that it even has a built in DSP for real-time effects (the PC-424 card does).

With those motu boxes...are they daisy chained and they all just see each other in your cuemix software, or is adat involved? I got 3 older boxes( 828mkii/traveller/8pre) but can only get 2 daisy chained reliably with firewire. If I add the third i hear a ticking noise through the system..its like clock. do i need an external master clock?? pulling my hair out over this for days!!! I hate adat as you lose so much I/o channels...hoping i can figure this out to mix using an old soundtracs 24 channel.

@Ultimatestudiosinc

Жыл бұрын

Mine are all PCI so all 4 of them are hooked directly to the 424 PCI card. Solid as a rock! While I have not tried to sync those 3 MOTUs together I do have 3 8pres and have been able to sync them together via Firewire with no issues. What you are describing could be fixed by an external clock but you could also try hooking 2 up via firewire and the third via adat. Have you tried that?

@raindogred

Жыл бұрын

@@Ultimatestudiosinc oh ok...no i have not tried to hook up the 8pre via adat. Will give it a go...didn't know you could add adat to a daisychain. PCI architecture was awesome. My first and second interfaces were both PCI back in the day..i miss the stability of those old systems..Guillemot maxi isis in the late 90, and a hoontech thinking about those oild systems a lot lately..tempted to put a vintage system together running win98 or XP running the old emagic logic on windows haha,,,most likely be disappointed..more a nostalgia trip...love the channel..like and subbed

Great setup you got there! I’m taking some ideas from you to apply when the time comes for me to get a console which I’d love to. May I ask, why do you have a separate rig just for printing? Wouldn’t it be the same to just print within the same mix session that you’re using for mixing? I understand the concept but, are there any extra benefits on doing it this way?

@Xtn1Insecticide

2 ай бұрын

Would be cool to understand this, I’m covered in wires and confusion within my logic template atm, getting a desk installed but the output bus isn’t working yet so I’m just going in and out of it desk with an 8 channel group mix down and half the time I can’t get sound in and out because I don’t understand logic groups and send well enough. It sounds great though, has ghosts but the first mix down was superb. I need to figure this the best way, thanks for post

@Xtn1Insecticide

2 ай бұрын

I’m just going direct 8 in from daw, 8 back to daw, panning in daw later, and finishing up anything not right and it works only it’s a nightmare to manage atm

You haven`t output on some channels in Logic?

@Ultimatestudiosinc

Жыл бұрын

I explained that in the video but those channel (the first 32 in the mixer) control the automation on the console. The audio assigned to those channels got out via the sends on each channel so the fader movement in Logic doesn't affect the volume coming out of Logic.

What operating system are you using?

@Ultimatestudiosinc

Жыл бұрын

Mojave 10.14.6

This is great, Charlie. Thank you! There aren't many folks making videos with Logic and a hybrid system with a console. I'm in-between. kzread.info/dash/bejne/g4mtqtqEgtHQdpM.html I can still work in the box or route back out to the console back to the same computer. kzread.info/dash/bejne/on-rw7BrktOfqLA.html How do you work on several songs if the mix is up on the console? You set up the console again for each song from the automation in the box/physically mirroring it? My patch bays are setup from before I got the mixer - normal-ed to the outboard gear and using the I/O and my 16 track tape machine comes back there. So I need to patch the first 16 tracks. My 16 adat outs are connected directly to the mixer. I keep experimenting figuring out the work flow. So many options. Did you make a template in Logic to have the parsing done globally? So then are you using little to no console EQ on the mixes? Sometimes I want to take the plunge and have the mixer as the center of my setup and not two separate setups. The craziest part for me was the virtual tracks, and the Logic offset numbers and having several interfaces pulling off the available 40 channels in and 40 back out. My I/O mix assignments change numbers when mono. I just love all of this!

@Ultimatestudiosinc

Жыл бұрын

Hey Lauren! Thank you for watching. I just checked out your studio.....You have an MS-16! That's on my list! We've been recording a lot to a Fostex R8 and it has such a cool vibe (kzread.info/dash/bejne/f2to1JRtfsm9Y84.html). My overall workflow is 85% outside the box so all of my heavy lifting is done on the console and with my outboard gear. Logic, for the most part, is acting as a tape machine with some added benefits. I'll do cleanup stuff in the box but the main sounds are taken care of on the console. I will do some premixing in Logic if I have large groups of vocals or keys or something and then it will come out on a stereo pair(s) on the console. I will also do extra FX throws from busses in Logic and route them either directly to the outboard FX I want or bring the ITB throw up on a fader on the console so I can then route it to more outboard FX or subgroups. Logic does control the automation on the console. So my Logic template starts with 32 Aux channels set to no output. I use the Bus sends on each channel, setup to pre-fader, to send audio out to the console. That way audio is always passing to the console regardless of the fader position. The Logic faders are connected to the console via iPmidi (hui) and control the actual faders on the Trident. That way all of my fader moves on the console are post analog processing. Except for the master fader. I don't use the insert on the master as I prefer to "push" into my mix bus chain. It makes it way easier to control too. I have all of my outboard FX that have midi connected to the computer via a MOTU MTP AV as well so I can automate available parameters right from Logic. Just like you I keep experimenting. I very rarely go back and forth between songs while mixing. I schedule everything to be a song at a time and then move on. Sometimes we'll get to the end of an album or EP and then revisit the first song and I just do a recall. For that I take video of the entire console and outboard at the end of the mix and then just talk myself (from the video) through the setup. I have it down pretty well now and it doesn't take too long. Some people hate doing recalls but I decided long ago that I have waaaaaaaay more fun mixing out of the box so I just deal with it when necessary. But it doesn't happen too often.