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  • @ThoraxetheImpaile100
    @ThoraxetheImpaile1002 жыл бұрын

    Simply put, Obi-Wan was the Order's shield while Anakin was the Order's sword.

  • @ArcNine9Angel

    @ArcNine9Angel

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well put!

  • @dustinjones7458

    @dustinjones7458

    2 жыл бұрын

    To extended the metaphor-Qui Gonn had been the orders armor. He protected it from others, and from itself.

  • @jthayer3328

    @jthayer3328

    2 жыл бұрын

    Like this analogy

  • @chiefhowlingwolfhannibal7360

    @chiefhowlingwolfhannibal7360

    2 жыл бұрын

    Excellently worded my friend

  • @CaptainPantys

    @CaptainPantys

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would be the Panties of the order. Keeping them warm and comfy at night.

  • @stlchucko
    @stlchucko2 жыл бұрын

    Obi Wan is arguably the best defensive duelist ever... THE master of Form 3. A key reason why is because he had Anakin as a training partner. When your padawan is one of the most talented and skilled lightsaber duelists (if not the greatest) while also being highly aggressive, you're gonna learn to block and parry really well.

  • @Reblwitoutacause

    @Reblwitoutacause

    2 жыл бұрын

    Never thought of it in quite that way, but it’s very obviously true in hindsight

  • @InfamousAWJ

    @InfamousAWJ

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not arguable. He is the best defensive duelist.

  • @Enoxificatti

    @Enoxificatti

    2 жыл бұрын

    Anakin Skywalker is the most talented and the most skilled duelist of all time. Also, Obi-Wan Kenobi is the greatest defensive duelist of all time.

  • @nickdovedan9020

    @nickdovedan9020

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Enoxificatti how can he be the greatest when he was beat twice by Obi. You can’t go 0 and 2 and be the best. Anakin was mercied ruled twice by Obi. It safe to say the Obi is the greatest duelist.

  • @deucehamilton7921

    @deucehamilton7921

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nickdovedan9020 you can’t really say 0-2 he did beat Obi Wan when he was weak and decided to torture him in the fire. Even though he wasn’t at full strength obviously but a win is a win. Plus the final duel in a new hope so really it’s more like 2-2.

  • @blackspace007
    @blackspace007 Жыл бұрын

    Hayden Christensen really put in the work. His light sabre skills and ability to remember those long fight sequences was unreal. Him and Ewan are fantastic. We need Kenobi season 2 and lots of flashbacks to see them fight from those days.

  • @Shinyboy29

    @Shinyboy29

    8 күн бұрын

    Ewan had a stunt double to do the saber combats for him Hayden did all these himself

  • @nykia31
    @nykia312 жыл бұрын

    Anakin was the Mike Tyson of Jedi duelists. A prodigy with unmatched speed, raw strength and talent. Overwhelms people with massive aggression and power, but he has to get to you early. The longer the duel goes, the more impatient he gets and prone to mistakes.

  • @MyHistory._.

    @MyHistory._.

    2 жыл бұрын

    Eh, Against Obi-Wan I would say that is correct but against other sith he did not lose control. For the most part

  • @mserikatodoh

    @mserikatodoh

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MyHistory._. That is because Obi Wan means something to Anakin whereas Ventress, Dooku, etc don't really mean anything to Anakin.

  • @jimlittle5769

    @jimlittle5769

    2 жыл бұрын

    and that's when he bit Obi Wan's ear off ;-)

  • @VoldoronGaming

    @VoldoronGaming

    2 жыл бұрын

    Imagine if that wasnt the case with anakin losing patience. He would be unbeatable.

  • @montithered4741

    @montithered4741

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MyHistory._. Anakin was able to (relatively) quickly overwhelm his opponents due to overwhelming power and offense. However, the true strength of Form V is to respond to an attack with defense then a strong offense. If Form III is defense, Form IV is attack, then Form V is counter-attack.

  • @steampunkonblitz8627
    @steampunkonblitz86272 жыл бұрын

    Vader was the living embodiment of “Too angry to die”

  • @twasinjunaed6709

    @twasinjunaed6709

    2 жыл бұрын

    Darth Sion: Am I a joke to you?

  • @thathappyhat936

    @thathappyhat936

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maul and scion are better embodiments

  • @AdeptKing

    @AdeptKing

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@thathappyhat936 I don't know, being chopped to pieces and burned alive are pretty harsh. Sion is probably comparable but I don't know about Maul.

  • @thathappyhat936

    @thathappyhat936

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AdeptKing How about this: Anakin had his arm and legs cut off (at the elbow and knee joints). He was then picked up by Lord Sidious and rushed to a medical bay, where he got actual medical attention. His love for Padme even probably played a bigger part in his survival than his actual anger. Then take Maul, who was chopped in half at the waist (infinitely more fatal than at the knee and elbow joints) then fell likely miles down into piles of trash, then taken to a garbage world on which life and therefore food was incredibly sparse, even more inaccessible if you don't have legs to catch it with, and on which the atmosphere and air are terrible to breathe. He of course had no medical attention and was completely alone for years other than the company of a talking snake. TL;DR Vader given medical attention and life support, Maul chopped in half and lived on a trash planet for years.

  • @alexanderrahl482

    @alexanderrahl482

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sion takes that crown.

  • @macwelch8599
    @macwelch85992 жыл бұрын

    Anakin was so accomplished with his fighting style that even Dooku admitted that he was the best Djem So duelist the Count has ever seen

  • @zottersgamingchannel5207

    @zottersgamingchannel5207

    2 жыл бұрын

    When? Because in the revenge of the sith book he simply said anakin was a fine duelist?

  • @jatincranmore6616

    @jatincranmore6616

    2 жыл бұрын

    Did he admit that before or after getting decapitated?

  • @bemeek

    @bemeek

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dooku called Anakin a fine duelist. If you watch his duel with Anakin in Episode 2, after he takes Anakin’a arm and pushes him back, you see Dooku take a very deep, noticeable sigh. A Padawan required his full attention and effort. A Padawan made a Sith Lord tired. Anakin was no pushover. Vader is a different animal entirely.

  • @TheStellarmanCo.

    @TheStellarmanCo.

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jatincranmore6616 Dooku defeated Anakin numerous times and never killed him because Sidious didn't want him to, plus hebwas already old, Young Dooku would've destroyed Anakin no contest

  • @epec20

    @epec20

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hand chopped off by Dooku, legs and arms chopped off by Obi Wan. Electrocuted to death by the Emperor. 😬

  • @laituanhoang
    @laituanhoang Жыл бұрын

    His Form is practical even for real-life fight. He kept the saber close to his body = effectively defensive, his 2 hands' blow are massive and deadly.

  • @dimitriusvoldun8031
    @dimitriusvoldun80312 жыл бұрын

    It's always fun talking to people about the differences in fighting styles that Anakin and Vader use. By the time he's fully Vader in A New Hope, his style lacks a lot of the ability to include speed in his strikes, focusing more on the power. Losing as much of his limbs as he did, when combined with all of the massive burn scarring, he slowed down a lot, but had a lot more power to put into his strikes, which overpowered most everybody. Anakin, as you so fantabulously explained, made REALLY good use of his speed intermixed with the power moves. I'm horrible at remembering the form numbers and names, but I know the fighting styles pretty well. Thank you for the epic videos, mate!

  • @theguy8763

    @theguy8763

    Жыл бұрын

    Also another thing that slowed anakin down as vader is the suit Palpatine put him in. He specifically made sure that the suit was difficult to maneuver in, along with making it weak to electricity and a couple other things, cause palpatine knew that if he didn't do all of that then vader would be able to overpower him that much easier

  • @JamesJones-mt9co
    @JamesJones-mt9co2 жыл бұрын

    Mastering the footwork of form 4 and combining with what the aggressive attacking style the aggressive strikes are form five Anakin was able to move in all directions and attack from all different angles in this really did make Anakin an amazing lightsaber duelist this also allowed anything to knock count dooku of balance and defeat him in lightsaber combat

  • @ethanv310

    @ethanv310

    Жыл бұрын

    Imagine if was able to pair this form 7 or Windus modified version vepod

  • @WarriorofSunlight
    @WarriorofSunlight2 жыл бұрын

    There is an extremely common misconception that Anakin only killed Dooku because Palpatine told Dooku to go easy on him or let him win. This is NOT true. I believe it was Dave Filoni himself that said in an interview that Palpatine had instructed Dooku to make legitimate attempts at Anakin’ life because he wanted to test Anakin’s prowess and groom him into a killing machine. The same is also true for their duel on Naboo in TCW at the end of the arc with Obi-Wan going undercover. Anakin was winning there too and very nearly killed Dooku before his Jedi conscience kicked in and he showed mercy. (Dooku then proceeds to make a butthurt comment about not being impressed with Anakin as he’s flying away). Furthermore, the ROTS novelization makes it abundantly clear that Dooku realized in their duel over Coruscant that he had to fight with everything he had or else Anakin would defeat him, which he did regardless. Dooku decided he’d be more useful to Sidious than Anakin so was absolutely fighting for his life with the intent to kill at that point. Anakin is the mf-ing Chosen One who relentlessly trained and/or fought nearly every day of his life. People need to give him more credit and realize that he had become an insanely skilled and powerful force of nature by that point.

  • @dustinjones7458

    @dustinjones7458

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dooku wanted to get captured at some point, but he didn't want to lose. His general plan is to kill Obi-Wan, humiliate Skywalker (probably by taking another limb or two), and 'time to abandon ship' with Grievous with Palpatine in tow. Then sometime later, the Jedi corner Grievous in the 'epic culmination' of the war, Dooku surrenders and Palpatine is freed. Palps uses what happened to turn Anakin to the dark side. The Jedi Order is destroyed, one way or another, and Anakin is eventually disposed of as the pawn he is, and Dooku is given lead to make a new 'Jedi' Order-he's been constructing patsies throughout the war like Grievous and the scary CGI aliens specifically so he can spin all the war crimes on them and come out as clean and contrite to the public "It all just got out of my control" At some point he challenges his master to an honorable one on one duel aboard the Death Star, defeats him, and becomes Emperor Dooku. At least that was his overall plan, before being beheaded by an angry teenager. And we know that Palpatine is pragmatic enough, he'd likely have gone with this if it had turned out that way. You know except for the last part. Dooku would have been disposed of as well, if not by Anakin, then by someone else. It was only a reflection of his Jedi training to assume that Palpatine would not betray him-a Jedi master would never do such a thing, after all. But his very naivety (which he maintained even as so called 'sith lord') would have made them exceedingly easy.

  • @justsomeguywithlonghair6595
    @justsomeguywithlonghair65952 жыл бұрын

    Anakin is my favorite Star Wars character. His lightsaber form extremely deadly.

  • @joecarrillo7659

    @joecarrillo7659

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Igor Asadullin All you need to do is throw a Sith Emperor off the Deathstar and you gain a million wins! For the Emperor to return just to be killed again... Palpatine lost a million wins.

  • @zorse1235

    @zorse1235

    Жыл бұрын

    @Igor Asadullin he won the duel but lost the battle with kenobi by his arrogance look into the duel more kenobi was getting overpowered by anakin and losing to him that’s why he retreated to the high ground in the first place

  • @zorse1235

    @zorse1235

    Жыл бұрын

    @Igor Asadullin and he killed dooku obi wan lost to dooku more than anakin has and anakin never fought sidious with a lightsaber as far as my Star Wars knowledge goes only was struck by his lightning for getting out of hand or being taught a lesson

  • @jesuspernia8031
    @jesuspernia80312 жыл бұрын

    It’s wrong that Anakin used form IV during episode 2. He still used form V. But he used the Shien variant which is the blaster deflection variant (it’s still a good form for actual dueling though). After this it’s when Anakin switched to Djem So and not only mastered it but was probably the best Form V user of all time.

  • @davidb8082

    @davidb8082

    Жыл бұрын

    The shien variant wuz 4 driods was it not? So it wouldn't b used much in single blade combat

  • @jesuspernia8031

    @jesuspernia8031

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davidb8082 Yes, that applies to many basic Shien users, but Shien users of the highest level can actually use the blaster variant for lightsaber battles. Plo Koon for instance. And Episode ll Anakin (even though he had to change it after he got his arm chopped off). And Starkiller because he used the reverse grip which many Shien users have.

  • @jonahbliss8820

    @jonahbliss8820

    Жыл бұрын

    The fact is that a padawan anakin who had decades less experience than dooku who had been trained by yoda and palpatine and anakin still held out and dooku stated all he could do was dodge and block for a large portion of the duel

  • @Anakin-Skywalker.

    @Anakin-Skywalker.

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree, I liked Form V due too it’s Offensive and powerful strikes aspects.

  • @wektur8848

    @wektur8848

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jonahbliss8820 It's been some time since i read the novel for ep.2 but i recall that Dooku was impressed and almost shocked at how skilled Anakin is at such young age. He didn't like Anakin for his lack of discipline but always respected him as a fighter.

  • @ZeonNewtype
    @ZeonNewtype Жыл бұрын

    I think that Anakin was one of the greatest lightsaber duelists of his time. He had a very strategic and innovative mind that allowed him to fight in ways his opponents would never expect. In fact, I dare say that had Obi-Wan not known Anakin as long as he had, he might not have been ready for Anakin’s unique fighting style, and may very well have been defeated. Anakin’s weakness was his anger, though. Once he got frustrated, he made mistakes that skilled duelists like Dooku and Obi-Wan could easily capitalize on.

  • @Maddog-xc2zv

    @Maddog-xc2zv

    16 күн бұрын

    More Frustration and overconfidence than anger. I'm sure Anger, as he tapped to the Dark side, helped him a lot to bring down Dooku because of what he did to Kenobi in the beginning of the duel aboard the Invisible Hand.

  • @atibamaule
    @atibamaule2 жыл бұрын

    I remember watching another video on a similar topic. It pointed out that Anakin's new hand also strengthened his strikes which took Dooku by surprise since the last time they fought Anakin had 2 hands of flesh and his strikes were considerably weaker. This made Count Dooku over confident only to learn too late that Anakin got stronger, not weaker, by having a cybernetic hand.

  • @DeadNexus

    @DeadNexus

    2 жыл бұрын

    the clone wars exist dude

  • @joshuabishop5997

    @joshuabishop5997

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you haven't yet, read Mike Chen's, "Brotherhood" as this is explored in more depth while Anakin is still coming to terms with his lost hand.

  • @lordreiman8352

    @lordreiman8352

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DeadNexus yeah the revenge of the sith novelization kinda ignores TCW before it was written before TCW came out

  • @montithered4741
    @montithered47412 жыл бұрын

    Anakin is the unstoppable force to Obi-WAN’s immovable object; overwhelming offense against impenetrable defense. In the novelization of Revenge of the Sith, Mace Windu advised for Obi-Wan to fight and defeat General Grievous because Obi-Wan’s mastery of Form III would be a fool against Grievous attacks.

  • @jsbcody
    @jsbcody2 жыл бұрын

    I have always been a fan of the odd numbered forms; #1-good basics and strikes, #3-great defense and defensive footwork, #5-similar to #3 but with counter attacks. I do like the first three forms quite well: #1 and #3 as previously mentioned with #2-the duelist form with parries, deflections and excellent offensive and defensive foot work.

  • @thenoirknight5729

    @thenoirknight5729

    Жыл бұрын

    I feel a similar way. I feel like if I were to ever train lightsaber combat, I'd go for Form I, Form II, and Form III

  • @danmarusan2878
    @danmarusan28782 жыл бұрын

    For all of his skill in lightsaber combat Anakin Skywalker wasn't able to rip Obi Wan's defense appart despite beeing the one who should've been able to outclass almost anyone. Anakin is his own worst enemy: offensive, single minded tunnel vision. In a duel he basicly operates like the incredible Hulk. Obi Wan defeated Anakin because he could withstand his brute strength and outsmarted him by using the environment aka "The High Ground". Sometimes experience, patience and cleverness defeat even the most powerfull enemy.

  • @revenevan11

    @revenevan11

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think it also has to do with what a mess Anakin's mind was at the time of his defeat, he had recently fallen after all.

  • @windghost2

    @windghost2

    Жыл бұрын

    @@revenevan11 And with what literally just happened with Padme and him feeling extremely guilty with Betraying the Jedi Order. Him dueling Obi-Wan really didn't help him at all.

  • @Anakin-Skywalker.

    @Anakin-Skywalker.

    Жыл бұрын

    Also training ani his whole life, he knows what ani is gonna do.

  • @timian210

    @timian210

    Жыл бұрын

    Obi Wan switching his style to offense was brilliant. Anakin is good defensively be Obi Wan is THEE greatest defensively. His defense is better than Anakin's offense. And being that Anakin isnt on his level in defense and the fact that hes familiar with how he fights the moment Obi Wan switch it was over...

  • @0713mas
    @0713mas2 жыл бұрын

    I always thought that Dooku was going at Anakin with kid gloves, so to speak because his orders were to bring him to Sidious unharmed. Eventually Anikans abilities grew so much that Dooku bit off more than he could chew. I like your take on how Obi-Wan frustrated Anakin, because of the familiarity with Anakins forms of combat tendencies. This adds a realistic explanation, becase this happens in sports and strategy games all the time especially with fencing, boxing and wrestling. Great video Ty

  • @cirespeedreviews
    @cirespeedreviews2 жыл бұрын

    Anakin was the Bruce Lee of the universe, he created his own style taking from all styles to create the most efficient and effective of all styles. Be like lava my friend 🔥

  • @josephdial387

    @josephdial387

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m a huge fan of Bruce Lee and can you imagine if we could have seen Bruce Lee as a Jedi knight? I have read the Lee would get very angry at himself if he tries something and didn’t get it right the first time. Have their ever been lightsaber nunchaku?

  • @cirespeedreviews

    @cirespeedreviews

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@josephdial387 @Joseph Dial no, but I seen a youtube video with Bruce and lightsaber nunchacku, pretty insane😍

  • @leiaorgana5098

    @leiaorgana5098

    2 жыл бұрын

    Anakin best MMA fighter

  • @cirespeedreviews

    @cirespeedreviews

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@leiaorgana5098 And I heard he created MMA

  • @cirespeedreviews

    @cirespeedreviews

    2 жыл бұрын

    Speaking of Bruce Lee.. Lol. Not Anakin 🤣

  • @LeeEverett1
    @LeeEverett1 Жыл бұрын

    In the game Battlefront 2 (2017), they absolutely nailed Anakin's fighting style to perfection where each strike animation is flashy but also has raw power behind them with the intent of overwhelming an opponent. Combined with his force abilities, he's a powerhouse and the most offensive lightside hero, but the thing he lacks is defense stamina. He's the type of hero where he needs to get the kill quickly before his stamina runs out, otherwise he's in trouble.

  • @tippy1200

    @tippy1200

    Жыл бұрын

    True to his character. Do wish they gave him a better stamina card but streamroll will have to do

  • @quincysavala1297
    @quincysavala12972 жыл бұрын

    Djem so had a weakness for lacking mobility. Ataru minimizes that weakness with its acrobatic form

  • @Maddog-xc2zv

    @Maddog-xc2zv

    16 күн бұрын

    also lacks in defense, even shien - the other discipline of form V is more dedicated to engage multiple adversaries but weak in duels, reason why - as he knew it already so good by constantly practicing with Kenobi and fighting side by side with him during the entirety of the clone wars - he adapted also Form III - Soresu defensive moves to counter attacks and then keep pounding it's adversary with ataru's loose footwork and the brutality of Djem So. Anakin was surely the most complete duelist in his time regarding Form usage and merging, going way beyond of what form VI - Niman desired and failed: jack of all trades, mastery in none. He never had contact with Vaapad nor Juyo, Form VII, until he became Vader and dueled the Emperor which (as Yoda, Windu, and Maul) mastered all seven existing Forms at the time but gave prevalence to Juyo. In no way that makes me unsay Anakin was the best Form merger in "his" Djem So discipline although not mastering all combat Forms.

  • @chrisfinley5529

    @chrisfinley5529

    16 күн бұрын

    @@Maddog-xc2zv form 5 defense was up their in Soresu, and lack of mobility is not a weakness

  • @Maddog-xc2zv

    @Maddog-xc2zv

    16 күн бұрын

    @@chrisfinley5529 for 5 shien is to be used against multiple adversaries, defensive but trying to create attack openings. You may call it soresu, but as defensive form (or discipline of a form) it lacks the precsion in defense cuts and tackles. Shien, like Niman as most jedi developed it, it was not useful for melee, rather for open spaces with numerous enemies. For some reason nor Anakin nor Luke tried to "master" Shien to complement Djem So, rather they used Soresu for all kind of defense, and Ataru and even Makashi to some degree for space control and pacing, like fencing. Alas, the Djem So discipline was created by masters of Soresu because they saw they're form as too defensive. The Jedi knew that shien was superior in open spaces with multiple enemies, but you lacked one on one abilities. Soresu and Djem So are the perfect marriage, as Soresu focus was on the defense from blaster bolts, multiple lighsaber attacks, and melee combat (which the creators of Shien didn't thought about and left much to desire compared to djem so, reason why Soresu and Djem So work so well together, not as much by far as Shien and Djem So, in fact you would chose one or another depending on your jedi approach). Ashoka used Ataru and Shien as a Padawan, adding Jar'kai to improve her defenses (shien is also used by starkiller, not canon, I know, but just to tell you Shien used the hilt grip inverted). She would latter perfect her Jar'Kai proficiency with Djem So, and she starts to use the hilts again mostly in the common way (keeping the teachings of Ataru given to her by Yoda, Anakin and even Kenobi, but from Kenobi the most important she kept was his teachings on Soresu) She dropped completely Shien for her Djem So combined with Jar'Kai and teachings of other forms, mainly III and IV. She's only seeing using Niman to best define her way on her form of choice, always with simultaneous use as Jar'Kai since Yoda taght her on how to wield dual blades (even if one at a point was a shotu). But never Shien is an evolution of Soresu, just because they have defensive traits, shien less as is always searching for the counterattack, does not mean they have the savme equivalence or usage, in others words, shien is not simply an evolution of Soresu but a complete different discipline of Form V; in fact we may say there's no real form evolution of Soresu, as were they who developed Djem So and used the forms depending of circumstances or mixing them in a hybrid form like Anakin and Luke did; and also Ahsoka, but the later had less dominion over Form III than Anakin or Luke.

  • @chrisfinley5529

    @chrisfinley5529

    15 күн бұрын

    @@Maddog-xc2zv let you know that thats bull shit asoka tano ran thru darth maul with Shien and beat pre vizla with shien so dont go with what star wars say they make up stuff as they go, djem so is the most powerful form out there, it sho aint juyo

  • @Maddog-xc2zv

    @Maddog-xc2zv

    15 күн бұрын

    @@chrisfinley5529 juyo is the most unpredictable form, never said it was the best. re-read, surely you missed something or "read" what was not there. plus Ashoka didn't use pure Shien against Maul, but with mix of Ataru and Serosu she learned with Yoda, Anakin and Kenobi. Plus she's also a Jar'Kai user, whic you don't seem to have in consideration as an important factor in the battles with maul where maul, sometimes, didn't gave is max because he was not interested in killing Ahsoka, apart from their last encounter. Plus, as Plagueis and Sidious, Maul had mastered all 7 forms of lightsaber, in case you didn't know it and he didn't use exclusively Forrm VII, although it was is Form of choice but as other also made use of forms hybridity, like Anakin with "his" Djem So and also Luke at least (including Ahsoka after she left the order whom relied on Djem So with use of other form in hybridity final result, so in a way also developing "her" discipline Djem So of Form V abandoning in majority Shien - as you notice she rarely uses Shien reverse grip style. Have you seen the shows at least?

  • @isaacfaith9369
    @isaacfaith93692 жыл бұрын

    To seamlessly integrate all these forms together and perfect his craft... no question he was a Jedi Master at that point.

  • @elike2748
    @elike27482 жыл бұрын

    Anakin was a great Sabersman, but he could never overcome his emotions whether he was Jedi or Darkside. Which ultimately cost him multiple saber battles, even in his prime. Anakin could never go Full Jedi or Full Darkside accepting all scarfices and conditions of either side. On the flip side he knew alot about both ways which gave him a huge advantage.

  • @kycoke1695

    @kycoke1695

    Жыл бұрын

    We only ever see him lose once after episode 2,When he lost to obi wan

  • @Krogdalo

    @Krogdalo

    9 ай бұрын

    Didn’t he lose as Vader against some lone Jedi in a comic or something.

  • @Soto-
    @Soto- Жыл бұрын

    I felt Obi-Wan had a slight edge over Anakin in their duel. Reason being, Anakin's Djem So style while aggressive shines best with counterattacks & parries. Since Obi-Wan's Soresu style is purely defensive, he's hardly gonna make offensive moves so Anakin is forced to create his own openings. Also, whether it was intentional or not, the duel moving to them fighting on top of those little robots and then the small platform would rob Anakin to use Djem So effectively because it takes wide swings.

  • @DannyShipleyMusic
    @DannyShipleyMusic2 жыл бұрын

    I loved in the book revenge of the sith when they described how fast grevious' sabers are moving and coming down on Obiwan. Obiwan was a master of defense, and this analysis of how obiwan was familiar with anakin's fightning style is the best I have heard yet. I miss the days when so much love and care went into the creation of this universe.

  • @darylsdesigns6679
    @darylsdesigns66792 жыл бұрын

    The thumbnail gave me chills

  • @antonioricardonvumbambomio1052
    @antonioricardonvumbambomio10522 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for doing your video, really enjoy them!

  • @nasifc3785
    @nasifc37852 жыл бұрын

    Video: *Goes into immense detail about Skywalker's aggressive lightsaber technique and swordsman prowess* Me: *Enjoying two people clashing glowing sticks together*

  • @thebatmane2220
    @thebatmane22202 жыл бұрын

    I’ve always wondered how jedi choose which form they wish to study, if it’s chosen by their master than it’d be safe to assume obi wan had anakin learn the perfect offense to sharpen his perfect defense.

  • @GothicKnight942

    @GothicKnight942

    2 жыл бұрын

    From what I know each Jedi can choose whichever form they wish to study and practice with masters maybe offering suggestions as to which style suits them best but I do not think the masters picked the styles for their padawans.

  • @geoffreyedgson7875

    @geoffreyedgson7875

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's largely a matter of choice, and some opportunism. For Jedi under Yoda's tenure as Grand Master, Younglings would spend 1 year studying each individual Form 1-6 (Form 7 is heavily restricted), and chose which to favour for their Jedi career. Whom their masters are can impact which form a Jedi can learn as well, or how they learn to apply them. Qui-GOn + Obi-Wan=during their tenure together both were Ataru specialists, Qui-Gon as an innovative Ataru master. Yet Kenobi would dabble with Niman and Shien as a Padawan. Qui-Gon + Dooku=as a Makashi master, Qui-GOn's swordsmanship first drew Dooku's attention, and Dooku advocated for purist swordsmen to use personalization. Qui-Gon heavily revised Form IV, even using blade-binding and footwork over acrobatics, holdovers from Dooku's influence.. Luminara Unduli + Barris Offee=in Legends continuity, both functioned as overall Soresu practicioners. Yet from their supplementary skills, Luminara dabbled with Ataru and Makashi stances, while Barris has used Shien deflection parries. Obi-Wan + Anakin=quite a complicated case. Anakin's talent and magnitude led to accelerated development, but Kenobi and other Jedi deliberately stunt him to impose humility, or out of fear towards Anakin growing too fast. Plus, Obi-Wan was reinventing himself by learning Soresu during this time, while Anakin learned SHii-Cho first then favoured Shien, with Ataru and Niman supplements. Kenobi at least was knowledgable about Ataru, SHien and Niman to a degree, but he and Anakin essentially were both developing their respective specialists-forms side-by-side: Form III & Form V.

  • @thebatmane2220

    @thebatmane2220

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@geoffreyedgson7875 this was informative asf, much appreciated m8

  • @thevegastan

    @thevegastan

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@geoffreyedgson7875 Holy shit! Can you break down more pairings? Like Sidious-Maul, Dooku-Ventress, and Anakin-Ahsoka?

  • @geoffreyedgson7875

    @geoffreyedgson7875

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@thevegastan Most of my observations are drawn from attention to other fan-works; respect threads, VS series by Jensaarai One and Evannova95, plus personal observations. For Sidious/Maul; the master was a lot more heavily involved in steering Maul to become an ideal assassin/tool for him. Maul was taught conventional assassin skills then introduced to lightsaber combat, but rarely witness or was invited to spar with Darth Sidious; logical for the Sith to prevent Maul from one day becoming a threat against him. From the novel Darth Plageuis, Sith under the Rule of Two prioritized conventional or covert combat skills and their Force-abilities instead of pure swordsmanship. WHich makes sense as the Apprentice was an agent/tool under the Master, functioning as Sith Assassins, then to challenge the Master those students (Zannah, Plageuis, Sidious) evolved into Sith Sorcerer's. Both Maul and Sidious practiced multiple combat disciplines, then orientated their skills towards Juyo. Ironically, both enjoyed drawing their enemies to them; Maul on Naboo, Sidious with Mace Windu (and in TCW's season 6 with Yoda). And both would open with saber-skills first before turning to their Force powers. Yet, Maul was a pure physical warrior with an ego, while Sidious was less enthusiastic about lightsaber combat and enjoyed mocking his opponents with his weaker skills instead of the Force. Dooku/Ventress: she was already accomplished fighter when they met, whom Dooku elevated to truly among the best of their time. Dooku would apply pure Makashi, with components of other styles mixed in to his own technique; while Ventress was an inversion; Makashi was rare in her era, while Ataru and Niman were the most common-place styles practiced by Jedi. Implicitly, Ventress learned fundamental or intermediate steps of Form IV & VI, then became self-taught until Dooku shaped her into a Makashi specialist. Dooku was apathetic and talked-down his foes; while Ventress would use shock-and-awe plus egotism to upset an opponent's composure, and both characters were extremely weak if they meet someone in their league with a focus on Djem So. Ashoka/Anakin: they began with more parallels but evolved in opposite directions. Initially Ashoka studied Shien while Anakin was a Knight and 2 years away from becoming "The Djem So" master of their time. Ashoka was Agile and measured, cutting down opponents 1-by-1, while Anakin was more fluid and direct. Instead of investing in strength, by the time she had her shoto, Ashoka was more invested in Ataru, and preferred to side-step opponents instead of using a steady block-and-riposte approach. Anakin favoured using a single blade, and disagreed with a reverse-grip, something Ashoka refused to abandon. Evidently, Anakin aided her with some building-blocks, but Ashoka's more advanced preferences went in a different direction with few technical parallels with Anakin. Almost like a passive-rebellious teenager.

  • @darkmagician2346
    @darkmagician23462 жыл бұрын

    Anakin own downfall was his own. He could’ve beat anyone except yoda and sidious in the clone wars era. Obi wan said it best had he not been so arrogant and more composed he would have reached his full potential and became the strongest Jedi to ever live

  • @cherm722

    @cherm722

    2 жыл бұрын

    If he couldn’t beat palpatine or Yoda, he couldn’t beat windu. Windu beat palpatine fairly and legitimately, George Lucas confirmed it.

  • @jw1415

    @jw1415

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cherm722 Exactly...Mace literally had a fighting style that reversed dark side energy back into the users pie-hole...People hyping up Anakins qualifications...smh...

  • @titouanvlieghe6190

    @titouanvlieghe6190

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jw1415 i think that's because Djem So is efficient against vaapad, as vaapad really let's your opponent counter attack wich is Djem So specialitie, though i think mac would win against anakin 6 time out of 10.

  • @darkmagician2346

    @darkmagician2346

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@titouanvlieghe6190 mace can definitely beat Vader but not light side anakin

  • @troysponsler504

    @troysponsler504

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@darkmagician2346 no. Absolutely not vader. See, vaapad redirects dark side energy back at an opponent and taps into your own inner darkness. 2 problems: it relies on your willpower to not fall to the dark side, especially against opponents who are extremely hateful (like vader.) The other problem is that vader also mastered form 7, and form 7 is more effective in the hands of a dark side user. So really, while also being a master of all forms (unlike windu) vader was also a master of windus preferred form that works better for him than it does for windu. What I'm trying to say here is that vader absolutely stomps on windu with medium difficulty.

  • @rileyreese3991
    @rileyreese39919 ай бұрын

    Haydens form is perfection, he has his own kind of relaxed shoulder stance and it's so signature for Anakin

  • @batvader6894
    @batvader68942 жыл бұрын

    I’m surprised he would mix Ataru and Djem So since they were both taxing on the body, but i guess he just built different

  • @zachcolbert8781

    @zachcolbert8781

    2 жыл бұрын

    He had enough force power to minimize the physical drain

  • @KS-xk2so

    @KS-xk2so

    Жыл бұрын

    I find Jedi pick styles that play to their strengths. In Anakin's case, he was young, fit, and had massive wells of Force power. So something that taxing would be sustainable to him. Whereas for Obi Wan, he is actually not that powerful in the Force, he barely qualified as powerful enough to make it as a Jedi.... he became great because he learned to be incredibly economical with his Force power usage. Getting the most out of every drop. That focus on efficiency, plus his calm and composed demeanor, fits Form 3 perfectly.

  • @derekwebb7577
    @derekwebb75772 жыл бұрын

    I remember reading that Mace Windu considered Obi-wan the best duelist in the RotS novelization. He called him THE master of soresu and the blade of the Jedi.

  • @heikootto2865

    @heikootto2865

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes and thats true he was better with the lightsaber then anakin. Windu also said obi wan has no weaknesses with the lightsaber.

  • @alexandergreen5359
    @alexandergreen53592 жыл бұрын

    Sticking purely to lightsaber dueling, how would this Anakin have faired against Sidious in combat? Part of me thinks if Mace Windu had fully trusted anakin and brought him along, perhaps things could have gone differently. Anakin would have seen the brutality of Palpatine and not the weak, cowering old man he foolishly saved.

  • @sherrattpemberton6089

    @sherrattpemberton6089

    2 жыл бұрын

    Anakin would have not stood a chance against Sidious. He was a mess a that point and no way focused enough to fight an opponent like Palp's

  • @dustinjones7458

    @dustinjones7458

    2 жыл бұрын

    Anakin could totally beat Palpatine in a straight fight. His power was described as the best in his generation, possibly ever. Which is why Palpatine, foreseeing that threat, worked so hard to subvert him. Because Anakin acting as he truly was meant to-embracing both sides of the force-become so powerful you can't stand against him. He worked very hard to make sure Anakin would always hesitate to act against him. That he would see him as a friend, a mentor, and a father figure. And part of Palpatine is that it wasn't even a total lie. That hesitation would cost him his life, however. Palpatine has no conflict, and he's all dark, all the way down. Bring anything less and you lose.

  • @heyimjoshnicetomeetya

    @heyimjoshnicetomeetya

    2 жыл бұрын

    In a pure lightsaber fight, I see Anakin standing a good chance. Add in Force powers, then he's absolutely done for.

  • @jonahbliss8820

    @jonahbliss8820

    Жыл бұрын

    Palpatine is a shitty duelist all he has is speed a good analogy is that There are 2 people one is a better swordsman and the other can move at lightspeed THAT IS EXACTLY HOW PALPATINE FIGHTS

  • @thomashamilton523

    @thomashamilton523

    Жыл бұрын

    Anakin was so desperate to save Padme… I don’t see him letting mace kill him… no matter what would have happened

  • @frankanon4450
    @frankanon44502 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos!

  • @sinisterdjedialive3746
    @sinisterdjedialive37462 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video, thank you !

  • @blakemcmahan3960
    @blakemcmahan39602 жыл бұрын

    Anakins duel ability was phenomenal, I really wish he would have reach his peak. He would be unstoppable. He used his raw ability with force and combined it with his dueling he could have beaten yoda and palps

  • @magicwalrus4255
    @magicwalrus4255 Жыл бұрын

    I love that Count Dooku even admits that Anakin is a fantastic duelist but then throws in his ableism. ("Were he a gentleman he would have learned how to duel one-handed instead of getting a prosthetic.")

  • @darnelljones8038
    @darnelljones80382 жыл бұрын

    Great work!

  • @jacobdrolet4262
    @jacobdrolet42622 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video of Anakin skywalker fighting style in Star Wars, fantastic job.

  • @lorenz4132
    @lorenz41322 жыл бұрын

    I‘d say Anakin was strong as a duellist but but quite at the level of Mace. Mace basically perfected a form that was tailor made for fighting opponents like Anakin or Sideous. In a hypothetical duel Mace would be using Anakins greatest strength, his darkside power (which increases in a fight, like the duel with Dooku in ROS) against him. That‘s why he could hold his own agains Palpatine and Anakin is no where near Palpatines skill/strength.

  • @thathappyhat936

    @thathappyhat936

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree that mace probably wouldn’t have won, but sidious drew it out on purpose. In a one on one in which Anakin wasn’t a factor, sidious would have bested windu

  • @ElazigFighter23

    @ElazigFighter23

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thathappyhat936 george Lucas stated that Mace won fair and square against Sideous

  • @thathappyhat936

    @thathappyhat936

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ElazigFighter23 My mistake. Lucas does say that Mace won, but he never clarified if it was Sidious' plan or not. I guess it could go either way.

  • @jw1415

    @jw1415

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thathappyhat936 Wow, dude...What part of "fair and square" from George Lucas don't you understand?...Not that difficult, mate...Throwing a match isn't fair guy😂...smh...

  • @thathappyhat936

    @thathappyhat936

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jw1415 Well for starters, don't get mad, I'm just suggesting some stuff. George Lucas is, however, known to change his mind frequently. He also no longer really has any official say in how it is now. You're also going to have to forgive me for noticing that the one person who happened to remain alive until Anakin was the Jedi who most adamantly opposed Anakin's rise through the Jedi Order. Whether he lost intentionally or not, it played into Sidious' plans perfectly, pushing Anakin farther over the edge, and after his interference it was shown that Palpatine actually did have the power to shock Windu and blast him clear out the window. It just makes sense, in my feeble little mind at least, that Sidious likely could have won that battle had he used his full power.

  • @danielheaps6791
    @danielheaps67912 жыл бұрын

    I've always felt like Ob1 and Anakin were really close as fat as overall fighting skill, with Mace Windu even calling Ob1 THE master of form 3 and arguably the best user of it like... ever, and Anakin having all the things listed in the video, great work By the way 👍

  • @eaphantom9214
    @eaphantom92142 жыл бұрын

    Jeez how many videos do you upload on a regular basis? Since there's a lot I love you for it! Haha 👏👍👍👍 Being the star wars nut too as I said be4 in - Sidious vs Vader lightsabers only!

  • @davemarcus2405
    @davemarcus24052 жыл бұрын

    Great video and content.

  • @NasTalkz
    @NasTalkz2 жыл бұрын

    I defeated him once, it only took a force choke/push off the into the ocean's of Kamino, in Battlefront 2 that is

  • @GokuBlacck

    @GokuBlacck

    2 жыл бұрын

    GGs

  • @doomslayer7719
    @doomslayer77192 жыл бұрын

    If one is going to mix Djem So and Ataru while leaving out Soresu, one is at least currently missing the point. Edit: Actually, even better. Shii-Cho - Form I is the foundation. Begin upon stable, sturdy and solid foundation. Stance and footwork is vital. Makashi - Form II is about attacks, while also aligning oneself with the blade one must wield. Defend others before yourself. Remember your own sworn desire to protect, uphold, and defend all that you hold dear. You may be last, however, you are here. You not only must wield your weapon, you must at least wield yourself and your weapon as one. Soresu - Form III is about defense. While not solely about defense, most seem to just focus on the overall patience needed to outlast in order to strike at the correct and opportune choice. Ataru - Form IV is about agility. In a less common angle, if one is fit enough, the force is no longer needed. However, when used by such a person, they can become even more effective. Shien and Djem So - Form V with its two variants has one concept. Defense to close. Shien is the basis for deflecting blaster bolts, and then later sending at least some back. Djem So is about combining, in the end, the best features of Shii-Cho as the foundation, Makashi as one being, both wielder and blade together, then Soresu for patience while using Ataru to control one's footwork in order to allow Shien to counter range attacks, before Djem So is used to deal with a foe. Niman - Form VI - While the above description of Djem So is only one single kata series with variations as it were, Niman is perhaps best put as the full breadth of the most effective available move set combinations while staying within the concept that a mind, while in a fight, will only fit so much information when being forced to concentrate. Juyo and Vaapad - Form VII and its two styles leads to the concept of if the foe is no longer a threat, then one need not defend. While Juyo was mostly started by the Sith, it is perhaps ironic, as Sidious would say, that the Jedi Master Mace Windu at least most closely perfected the idea behind Vaapad, which is simply put, a more refined Juyo. No foe, no need to defend. And as an added bonus, Mace could use the dark side in his said foes against them. Jar'kai - Two to three blades in total, or, inefficient twin double bladed lightsabers. Simply put, dual wielding or more lightsabers, in reference to blade count. A strong foundation of Forms I through at least VI, while most can stop at Form III, IV or V, due to Form III allowing a balance of attack and defend, one blade for each. Which leads to Form IV, which allows more movement and repositioning. Further, Form V can perhaps almost best combine the abilities of all the forms before together, while allowing a spread of at least one blade again for attack and defense. Adding Form VI after said Form V will only aid in the two styles focusing on the close and the defeat. Edit: below are my own ideas for now. Jan'pai - Four blades, or, twin double bladed lightsabers, is perhaps the most truly terrifying form of lightsaber combat. Blade control is key, as one can be even more of a threat to oneself if not trained enough to be able to maintain blade awareness when literally unable to think about said threats location. Jar'kai is the foundational form for this perceived potential terror. J'kun'tai - As noted above in Jan'pai, or Four Blades, J'kun'tai, or single blade against four, is more likely even more terrifying than said Jan'pai. The amount of effort needed will usually mean that one is expected to tire with this style, and perhaps fairly so. Although, since this style is perhaps even more grounded in Soresu than any other,.. Perhaps just imagine that someone must be at least a true Expert in all of the recognized and formal Forms, I through VII, and at least passingly capable at dealing with a capable Jan'pai user.

  • @xxedgy_outsiderxx9978

    @xxedgy_outsiderxx9978

    2 жыл бұрын

    someone did their homework

  • @doomslayer7719

    @doomslayer7719

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@xxedgy_outsiderxx9978 /Nod.

  • @nightbringer8279

    @nightbringer8279

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's my first time hearing of Jan'pai and J'kun'tai. Where did you know this?

  • @patrickmitchell6968

    @patrickmitchell6968

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh! Would that mean Obi-Wan used J'kun'tai against General Grievous? It makes all makes sense since at this point, he had mastered Soresu. The Council was wise to send him to find Grievous.

  • @doomslayer7719

    @doomslayer7719

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nightbringer8279 My own ideas currently.

  • @TheGoodnessofGod1983
    @TheGoodnessofGod19839 ай бұрын

    1:54 I love how Obi-Wan composes himself as he prepares for the next battle.

  • @HebiSaru21
    @HebiSaru212 жыл бұрын

    Anakin is aggressive Me: *starts to think about the time Luke kept swinging at Darth Vader, trying to chop his arm off with multiple cuts* what form was Luke using...???

  • @AzrealTheDemon

    @AzrealTheDemon

    2 жыл бұрын

    luke was using form 5

  • @michaeldriggers7681

    @michaeldriggers7681

    2 жыл бұрын

    Form eight, O-jiiz, it translates to "lumberjack killing a rattlesnake"

  • @rickyward6643

    @rickyward6643

    2 жыл бұрын

    He was using Freddie crugear form

  • @dodgster1p958

    @dodgster1p958

    2 жыл бұрын

    Form 8 Des-per-ation! 😂😂

  • @jsbcody

    @jsbcody

    2 жыл бұрын

    The really pissed off "Chopping Wood" technique.

  • @thecontentbender
    @thecontentbender2 жыл бұрын

    The thing that makes stars wars have such compelling characters is the fact that the story feels as if it was written for the actor, rather than an actor taking on a role that was already written for any actor/actress to just come in and play the part.

  • @TheSCPStudio

    @TheSCPStudio

    Жыл бұрын

    It was made before Anakins actor was even alive lol.

  • @thecontentbender

    @thecontentbender

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheSCPStudio the prequels?

  • @emet-selch3485

    @emet-selch3485

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheSCPStudio /woosh

  • @andokonst
    @andokonst8 ай бұрын

    Dude you should write my master thesis. Your ability to stretch 4-6 simple theses into a 9 minute video is uncanny

  • @Just_Pele
    @Just_Pele2 жыл бұрын

    Obi-Wan used Djem So in tactical bursts at critical times in the final episode of Kenobi, then fell back to Soresu when he adjusted angles and positions, confusing Vader. It's was a great tactic, and some good fight choreography.

  • @JoseGomez721
    @JoseGomez7212 жыл бұрын

    Anakin was the greatest until Obi-Wan SMASHED him, outsmarted him, and left him with EMOTIONAL DAMAGE! Whether it was as Anakin or Vader, at the end of the duels, Anakin's impatience and need to win was always his downfall against Obi-Wan. To me that makes Kenobi in my personal opinion the better duelist.

  • @HarriHoll69

    @HarriHoll69

    2 жыл бұрын

    "That's a lot of damage"

  • @zippo5294

    @zippo5294

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree, Kenobi deserves more props

  • @montithered4741

    @montithered4741

    2 жыл бұрын

    Kenobi’s Form 3 is almost a perfect counter to Anakin’s Form 5. Form 3 is defensive, reactive, conservative, and almost passive. Form 5 is also defensive and reactive, but follows with power and aggression to wear the opponents down. Form V is like a hurricane crashing against an iron bulwark of Form 3; all the bulwark has to do is endure and eventually the energy burns out of the hurricane.

  • @folieadeux147

    @folieadeux147

    2 жыл бұрын

    Obi Wan is the all time worst matchup for Anakin but he is objectively not as talented of a duelist. Obi Wan is insane at dueling but his edge over Anakin was always more mental and emotional than physical. Even in the final duel in Kenobi, he initially loses to Vader and literally gets buried alive until he gets the deus ex machina will of the force buff. Anakin’s weakness was his need to dominate rather than simply win or survive and the associated impatience that crops up in him when the domination doesn’t happen quickly enough for his liking. Anakin needs to beat Obi Wan to prove what he has believed to himself for over 30 years at the point of A New Hope. Otherwise he can never sever their connection fully from his point of view. Obi Wan’s strength has always been cool headedness under pressure and an unbreakable will despite things looking fucked. All of his major wins over Sith Lord-level opponents have come after being on the backfoot for the majority of each duel. The major exception here being his final duel with Darth Maul on Tatooine. This plus their master-student history makes him a match made in hell for someone like Anakin who never learned to control his emotions. Anakin has believed he was better than Obi Wan since around the time of the clone wars. But he has a mental block against Kenobi specifically due to the trauma and constant defeats he has endured at his hands. You can see this in the final episode after his mask is sliced open - he cannot fully immerse himself in the dark side when fighting Obi Wan, which compounds his natural disadvantages even further. If they duel nameplates off and no all chat, Anakin fucks him pretty much every time. Kenobi’s strength has always been his mouth and mind rather than his body. The only reason Anakin lost on Mustafar was because of the opportunity Obi Wan created by specifically telling him, “don’t try it” after calling the duel (prematurely from Anakin’s perspective) when he took the high ground. Obi Wan saying that basically guaranteed that Anakin would try it lol.

  • @rodgill9376

    @rodgill9376

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zippo5294 and yet for all of Kenobi's skills, he could never defeat Dooku. Not even once.

  • @lulygrem9357
    @lulygrem93572 жыл бұрын

    Only few years and Anakin would have been unvincible, remember he was only 21 years old when he turned to the darkside of the force, but if this would have happened a couple of years later obi wan and yoda together would not have been enough to defeat him

  • @emet-selch3485

    @emet-selch3485

    Жыл бұрын

    @Igor Asadullin using the force is different

  • @vincenegra2612
    @vincenegra26122 жыл бұрын

    Tremendous 👏 Great observation Remain positive and vigilant

  • @ClaimNoName
    @ClaimNoName2 жыл бұрын

    There is a reason why they call Form V “The Way of The Krayt”. But never the less, it goes to show how regardless, the best skill and ability cannot defeat skill and ability on an extremely high level that comes with the best mind (ie. OB1). OB, debatably the greatest Jedi just was averse to killing if possible VS guys like Anakin and Windu etc

  • @jesuspernia8031
    @jesuspernia80312 жыл бұрын

    He was among the top tier duelists during the clone wars (yes it’s a fact he was on Windu, Dooku, and even Yoda’s tier and Dooku WAS NOT holding back). Also Ataru might seem like a lackluster form on its own, but it’s an amazing supplement to other forms. Dooku also used acrobatics to his Form ll.

  • @TheSCPStudio

    @TheSCPStudio

    Жыл бұрын

    @Igor Asadullin he wasn’t a padawan. He was a full fledged Jedi-knight, but they wouldn’t let him become a master.

  • @TheSCPStudio

    @TheSCPStudio

    Жыл бұрын

    Also dooku was holding back lol. Palpatine was using Dooku to lure Anakin to the dark side.

  • @fistofram5526

    @fistofram5526

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheSCPStudio Dooku did not hold back, he lost fair and square to Anakin. He got overwhelmed lol

  • @robertagu5533
    @robertagu55332 жыл бұрын

    I've mentioned how exceptionally dangerous he'd been if Anakin had been THE Order's "go to" when they needed an Attacker to quickly an utterly smash up something or someone in the way Kenobi was THE ultimate Defender WOULD he finally had been recognized as the equal of the likes of Yoda an Mace that he thought he was unlike later when he really would be? An or would he'd ALSO been sent against enemies like Grevious with a strong chance of even able to outclass an defeat such exceptionally deadly enemies since it stands to reason he'd be even MORE dangerous?? OR would he STILL not quite be there at the time he craved as a Jedi? Which we of course KNOW he eventually got to where he could beat Dooku BUT theorize Yoda, Mace an several other besides Kenobi could still crush him if they REALLY wanted which is something he was trying to work at an thought he already was at

  • @zachcolbert8781

    @zachcolbert8781

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's usually why they sent obi-wan and Anakin together on important missions because they balanced each other perfectly. Obi-wan used soriesu to protect Anakin and himself while Anakin used his djiem so variation to smash through his opponent. Perfect combo

  • @kevinballew8466
    @kevinballew84662 жыл бұрын

    Anyone who has read ROTS chapter 7 , plus the additional comments by Mace Windu prior to Obi-Wan killing Grievous would know Anakin never stood a chance . They knew each other equally well , so no advantage to either of them on that but Anakin made 2 critical errors. He overvalued himself and grossly underestimated his opponent. By the time he figured it out , he had lost two legs and an arm . That’s why Vader told the Grand Inquisitor ‘ he is NOT just any Jedi . ‘ On the second meeting, he was dying of an asthma attack and left defenseless before Obi-Wan …By the third meeting on the Death Star you see a MUCH more wary Vader . At the point he knew exactly how dangerous Obi-Wan was.

  • @jw1415

    @jw1415

    2 жыл бұрын

    People are just hyping up Anakins qualifications...smh...Mace was on another lightsaber skill level. Anakin would have list the minute he threw dark side energy at Mace...

  • @dafloppa975
    @dafloppa9752 жыл бұрын

    Obi-Wan won the duel because he defended Anakin's hits, making him losing a lot of stamina because all the anger in Anakin was consuming his energy, making him looking strong, when was actually running very fast out of stamina. That's why he became very aggresive and mad when he didn't broke throught Obi-Wan's defense. Obi Wan was the master of Sorescu, but he knew some of the defensive part of Ataru. That made him win at the High Ground moment because he knew that Anakin knew just the offense part of Ataru, which didn't include the acrobatics, which Anakin hated. Obi Wan took the high ground and Anakin, in his blind anger, attacked with a part of Ataru that he didn't knew. In that moment Obi Wan stroke down Anakin with a decesive critical hit.

  • @jfromthed6030
    @jfromthed60302 жыл бұрын

    If Anakin controlled his emotions and wasn’t so Arrogant. He would have been the greatest Jedi and force user of all time. Simple 💯

  • @marcusroberts7624
    @marcusroberts76242 жыл бұрын

    I think that only Yoda could have bested Anakin in his clone wars/rots era.... He would have defeated most of the jedi council, but look what Sidious did to 3 of the council in seconds... A good video for the future, Darth Sidious's lightsaber form, which was terrifying, how would Anakin have delt with that if they had dueled??...

  • @RoughTurbo

    @RoughTurbo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Darth s used a force power thst paralysed the 3 others I believe

  • @marcusroberts7624

    @marcusroberts7624

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RoughTurbo Correct, force scream, they never stood a chance.... That's what I ment by terrifying... Unfortunately not even Yoda could defeat him...

  • @RoughTurbo

    @RoughTurbo

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@marcusroberts7624 if they stayed in the room yods could have taken him and look at mace but then again cid was a master manipler

  • @thathappyhat936

    @thathappyhat936

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think plo koon or mace may have been able to potentially. Plo bested yoda in lightsaber combat

  • @thathappyhat936

    @thathappyhat936

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Darth Desec Yeah we see that Obi-Wan can beat him

  • @NYG1991
    @NYG19912 жыл бұрын

    Mace Windu was one of a few Jedi Masters who only exclusively used Form 7 I believe it’s called known as Vaapad. The only form used to take out Dark Side users.

  • @ZippyMrMew
    @ZippyMrMew2 жыл бұрын

    I wish there were some clips of Anakin vs. Bariss in this, especially near the end of the fight, he starts absolutely slamming on her

  • @ripmax333
    @ripmax3332 жыл бұрын

    I always thought that Darth Sidious was the best Light saber duelist, I kinda thought that he let Windu win the fight so Anakin could the Final Step to fully fall to the Darkside. But any way you always learn something new here.

  • @gamingrubix1722

    @gamingrubix1722

    Жыл бұрын

    Mace windu was considered the best duelist plus his style was especially effective against a dark side users plus I dount sidious would risk mace windu cutting him down when he's he's close to victory

  • @Maddog-xc2zv

    @Maddog-xc2zv

    16 күн бұрын

    In an interview with Lucas (before Disney era........), George said they both gave their best but Windu was a stronger duelist "cutting" much of the power sucked from the Dark Side with Vaapad - which was built to use the Dark Side against their users. Google it and watch it for yourself, if you're interested.

  • @blackgatsby4724
    @blackgatsby47242 жыл бұрын

    Anakin vs. Darth Malgus I get chills thinking about that duel. 🤔

  • @tylerhauk6737
    @tylerhauk67379 ай бұрын

    I really really really want a what if short-series or one-shot type thing to see Anakin at full potential and a 40 something year old Jedi master. Mentoring his son Luke who is equally as powerful. Crazy that Anakin was closing in on the number one spot as best duellist at what, age 22? Wild.

  • @kingshadow8782
    @kingshadow87822 жыл бұрын

    My favorite!

  • @BerserkerX
    @BerserkerX2 жыл бұрын

    Always wondered how Anakin's aggressive form of Djem So would hold up against General Grievous. I honestly think Dooku would killed Anakin if he wasnt the chosen one.

  • @Armor_of_Torrent

    @Armor_of_Torrent

    2 жыл бұрын

    Keep in mind that Anakin was born half force and half human. For all intents he was naturally superhuman. Him being the chosen one had nothing to do with his lineage. He was better duelist all around and if you watch clone wars you can see him slowly get the better of dooku.

  • @0predaking0

    @0predaking0

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Armor_of_Torrent well then that line of "I become twice the powerful than the last time we meet count" what?? You both fought like 3 days ago, if they said the last time they meet was with CW 2008 movie I could accept it.

  • @legendhole432

    @legendhole432

    2 жыл бұрын

    Windu and Anakin would be Grevious' worst possible opponents not because they were stronger then everyone else but because they would be aggressive with using the force. Grevious has zero defense if someone just picks him up with the force and ragdoll him around.

  • @BerserkerX

    @BerserkerX

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@legendhole432 well Anakin barely resorted to the force as a first instinct. I think he'd be too stubborn to fight smart against Grievous and just try to out duel him. And well, Windu has more knowledge and experience so I think he'd just use the force when he found out how skilled Grievous is.

  • @Alexquints

    @Alexquints

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@legendhole432 he's able to lock his feet to the ground.

  • @jw1415
    @jw14152 жыл бұрын

    Gasp😲... Sacrilegious! Mace would have destroyed Dooku. Mace'S fighting style was a superpower in of itself...

  • @dovasquad5228

    @dovasquad5228

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty sure dooku has beaten mace in a duel before? Look that up don't take my word on it.

  • @jw1415

    @jw1415

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dovasquad5228 Nah, think I'm good...Dumpster diving into contradictory star wars lore has one coming to the conclusion that an untrained Rey was able to hold her own against Kylo Ren in a lightsaber battle.

  • @MrKsan05
    @MrKsan059 ай бұрын

    Anakin was so confused before his fight with Ben. He had been crying and even lost his Sith eye during the fight, which to me showed he was conflicted and unsure of his place. He didn't get his Sith eye's back until he was defeated and screaming, he hated Ben.

  • @andylloyd8176
    @andylloyd8176 Жыл бұрын

    What a cool video

  • @grayham8478
    @grayham8478 Жыл бұрын

    these titles are ridiculous. "the ONLY person palpatine FEARED" "Dooku's TERRIFYING lightsaber hilt" "the DISGUSTING truth about x"

  • @sandmanzcommin08
    @sandmanzcommin082 жыл бұрын

    I got an Ultrasaber and I've been studying Djem-So, I love that form! Much like Anakin however, I want to perfect it to counteract the form's flaws. I'm trying to combine the power and precision of Djem-So with the defense and patience of Soresu; to put it simply, if Djem-So is Cobra Kai then Soresu is Miagyi-Do.

  • @emansfvera

    @emansfvera

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol you do know that those forms aren’t real right?

  • @sandmanzcommin08

    @sandmanzcommin08

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@emansfvera Neither is Pro-Wrestling or Steven Seagal's fighting style in a real fight. I know it's not real, genius. But, it's still fun, you can still go to those conventions and play-fight with others within the community and it's surprisingly good exercise; like fencing or Tai-Chi. So I'm pretty sure what I like ain't any of your business. *waves hand* Now you wanna go home and rethink your life...😘

  • @Jeddxh
    @Jeddxh2 жыл бұрын

    Not to mention imo I think he uses form 3 Soresu sometimes also just not on the level that Obi-Wan was on obviously. But learning under Obi-Wan their moves are almost an exact mirror of each other except Anakin’s style is more Djem So aggressor after he lost his right arm. Also I liked that you noted Anakin’s original form was form 4 Ataru because it was also Obi-Wans until ROTS. I’ve rewatched both Obi-Wan fights against Maul and Dooku and he spins a lot which is a focus of Ataru. Funny that Dooku made both Obi-Wan and Anakin change their combat forms😭😂

  • @mRibbons
    @mRibbons2 жыл бұрын

    I _used_ to be a big fan of Star Wars. But after countless hours of watching deep lore videos, I'm a freaking FANATIC.

  • @FriendlyBatDoom
    @FriendlyBatDoom2 жыл бұрын

    So basically form 7? By FAR the most difficult to master and the only form that can break through a form 3 masters defense but form 7 was weak against form 2s thrust and form 6 force attacks.

  • @thealmightypancakeface9585

    @thealmightypancakeface9585

    2 жыл бұрын

    Form 7 was the most aggressive and unpredictable form of them all, mostly dark siders used it, except for Mace.

  • @tonywright9906

    @tonywright9906

    Жыл бұрын

    Form Vll is neither weak to Makashi or Niman. Vaapad shares neither of Juyo’s weaknesses. People seem to have this confused and misinformed. Niman is not a trump card to Form Vll,neither is Makashi. Just as Djem So will overwhelm Makashi with its kinetic strikes Form Vll will do the same.

  • @thealmightypancakeface9585

    @thealmightypancakeface9585

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tonywright9906 Exactly

  • @collettk
    @collettk2 жыл бұрын

    I wish the writers/director of Kenobi would chime in...its great to speculate but Kenobi beat Anakin twice and was throwing boulders left and right at Vader while Vader didn't use any telekinesis and got pummeled again and again all while Kenobi fought with an aggressive form...I wonder if the writers just wrote what they thought would be the best story or did they feel Vader/Anakin was the superior duelist but was just too overcome with emotion to fight effectively

  • @mprieto57

    @mprieto57

    2 жыл бұрын

    It was stated at the end by Sideous that Vader is weakend by Kenobi because of his feelings. Vader isn't fully tapped into the dark side which weakens him. It's because of his complicated past that he just can't get over when it comes to Kenobi. That why Kenobi had the upper hand.

  • @KindDmoN

    @KindDmoN

    2 жыл бұрын

    Actually fantastic observation. Obi-wan is recognized by almost every jedi as THE master of form III, soresu. Which is all about defense and outlasting your opponent until you find a knick on their defense for a decisive strike. Vader spent almost all of his career developing his form V djem so, to completely annihilate form III as it was the most commonly prefered form of light saber combat by all jedi's and obviously, obi-wans. However as you noted early on in the fight obiwan switched from soresu, to form IV, ataru. Which was his original combat style as a padawan as well as qui gons preferred combat style. This style is more commonly known for being overly aggressive with powerful blows, non light saber blows, and acrobatic movements. Vader went into this fight expecting obi wan to use his preferred style which he had already mastered fighting against, which is why switching to form IV gave obiwan the edge in the fight.

  • @collettk

    @collettk

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mprieto57 I already consider these points, and they are good points...however my counterpoints are 1) Did Sideous just call him weak to get him back on task? He was a master manipulator and he didn't witness the fight. 2) If this was 5 years in I would say its possible Vader may not be fully into the darkside yet...but 10 years? He sure looked fully tapped when he mercilessly was massacring those villagers...not saying ur wrong...u may be right...would just like a more official response from those that dictate cannon.

  • @mprieto57

    @mprieto57

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@collettk I don’t think he was completely against Kenobi. He’s conflicted against him. That’s why when he tells him “I’m not your failure Obiwan” he said that as Anakin. Then Vader comes in and tells Obi-Wan he killed Anakin Skywalker. He’s going back and forth internally and it weakened his connection to the dark side. I would say Obi-Wan and Ashoka were the only ones who could do this to him. In Rebels when it’s said “we need not be enemy’s” that’s not Vader talking, that’s Anakin. If it was anybody else (other than Obi or Luke) he would just destroyed everything in his path. When she cuts his mask he calls her name. Then Vader comes back. These are examples of Vaders internal struggle with Anakin Skywalker. Anakin loved them both.

  • @collettk

    @collettk

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KindDmoN But you can't really call someone one of the greatest lightsaber duelist...possibly 3rd best behind Yoda and *I forgot the other guys name*...and claim he's even better as Vader...and then he gets beaten by a known and common style (Form IV), one he used to employ himself...it just has me call into question all of the "Cannon" lore content providers share on who is better then who when Vader was suppose to be better then Anakin...hadn't been seen by Kenobi in 10 years but Kenobi just won because he was familiar with Anakin's style...he's suppose to be almost an entirely different person...and one that is far superior...I feel like the we need answers from the writers

  • @CharlesMosley129
    @CharlesMosley1292 жыл бұрын

    love the thumbnail. :)

  • @marszxc
    @marszxc2 жыл бұрын

    Please do another on Anakin’s style and skill with the blade but as the crippled and mechanised Vader. How it evolved and how that explains what we see in Kenobi, (him vs Reva, him vs Obi Wan twice), Rogue One and the OT.. love to hear your thoughts.

  • @marszxc

    @marszxc

    2 жыл бұрын

    You read my mind! Just saw that you’ve already done one! Great job man

  • @patriciahayes2664
    @patriciahayes26642 жыл бұрын

    Anakin's lightsaber form was as vicious as they come because he was so aggressive with it.

  • @dyent
    @dyent2 жыл бұрын

    Obi-Wan was absolutely a better duelist than Anakin in Ep 3. Anakin may be more skilled with a lightsaber, but that's irrelevant. As Mace Windu famously said to Obi-Wan "What weakness does your Soresu cover?" None, and that's why Obi-Wan was the better duelist. Because he wasn't relying on 1 skill - he was well rounded, balanced, and able to use his opponents weakness (impatience, hubris, denial) against him. So Obi-Wan was the better duelist, despite Anakin being more skilled with a lightsaber.

  • @genericcomicbookfan5381

    @genericcomicbookfan5381

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s not just Anakin’s skill, it’s also his tenacity and raw power, his will to succeed. While yes this can sometimes blind him, the only occasions where it costed him was when he was still a padawan that hadn’t refined his lightsaber form. The second occurrence was when his mind was clouded by the darkside. Ep 3 Jedi Knight Anakin was his best we’ve seen on film. There’s a reason that he was able to best Count Dooku where Obi-Wan was layed out.

  • @JoshuaMPatton
    @JoshuaMPatton2 жыл бұрын

    Great edit at 8:45

  • @JasonSmith-wj2ht
    @JasonSmith-wj2ht9 ай бұрын

    Nice to see Hayden finally getting the credit he deserves.

  • @bertrugin
    @bertrugin2 жыл бұрын

    I disagree that anakin was the better duelist against obi-wan. Part of the duel is a mental aspect. Obi Wan was able to out maneuver him, forcing Anakin to make a mistake. That's why I feel Obi-Wan was the superior duelist.

  • @TheStellarmanCo.

    @TheStellarmanCo.

    2 жыл бұрын

    Obi-Wan clapped Anakin's cheeks not once but Twice!

  • @stormbringer2840

    @stormbringer2840

    2 жыл бұрын

    To put it bluntly anakin was the superior sword man ( like put them in a ring and he eventually win ) but obi wan was the greater duellist using fully his surroundings to his advantage ( like bronn in game of throne ) .

  • @fezii9043
    @fezii90432 жыл бұрын

    Rey's form is -1, Marie So

  • @patriciahayes2664

    @patriciahayes2664

    2 жыл бұрын

    Rey was a newbie so, yes, her lightsaber form wasn't as good because she didn't learn in the Jedi Temple. Her training was started by Luke and then completed by Leia, and even then Rey was still a newcomer to lightsaber dueling.

  • @thathappyhat936

    @thathappyhat936

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@patriciahayes2664 he’s saying that she’s unnaturally good with no training or experience and so should be absolutely terrible. But she isn’t. Because she’s a Mary Sue.

  • @fatasssquirrel1731

    @fatasssquirrel1731

    2 жыл бұрын

    Darth Jar Jar beats Rey

  • @thathappyhat936

    @thathappyhat936

    2 жыл бұрын

    ^^^

  • @johnnyscifi
    @johnnyscifi2 жыл бұрын

    Fearsome, AND fearless

  • @vallettapetracyneran8587
    @vallettapetracyneran85872 жыл бұрын

    So basically the brute force of djem so with the go with the flow of Ataru

  • @Maddog-xc2zv

    @Maddog-xc2zv

    16 күн бұрын

    and Soresu defense. The Form was basically discipline Djem So of Form V with integrations of Ataru Form IV speed and workfoot, plus defense taken from Form III - Soresu that Anakin knew so well from Kenobi. It's curious how people here are just stating Kenobi won in Mustafar because he knew Anakin's Form V, as if the opposite was not also true: Anakin knew perfectly how Kenobi used Form III. Mental imbalance of Anakin (justification) and mostly plot armor (reality) could not lead to other outcome.

  • @thenationaltimelyactionhou9328
    @thenationaltimelyactionhou9328 Жыл бұрын

    Luke used a similar style to his father, and being directly trained by Yoda himself is an added bonus too.

  • @N6SCA4931
    @N6SCA49312 жыл бұрын

    ending was dope, shout out hayden

  • @user-tx3ho6fl3s
    @user-tx3ho6fl3s8 ай бұрын

    It should also be noted in Rebels, Anakin was shown to have made adjustments to Ataru to counter multiple blaster users, which was the common weakness to the form. You can argue that this is due to Anakin's talent but it does make sense that it could have been done given that the form first created by masters of Soresu. It shouldn't have been that difficult for the Jedi Order to develop Ataru to have a defensive feature or instruct students to use the form with Soresu, which I always thought how Ataru should have been used

  • @bawsnitti
    @bawsnitti2 жыл бұрын

    These videos are soothing when you busy doing other shit

  • @Keek51
    @Keek513 ай бұрын

    They were like yin and yang to eachothers fighting style

  • @theendoftheworld9921
    @theendoftheworld99216 ай бұрын

    It's kinda funny no one in the entire jedi order, but Anakin, discovered that if you combine the aggressiveness of the aggressive form, and the defensiveness of the defensive form, you get a pretty good form

  • @4everhealthwellness344
    @4everhealthwellness34411 ай бұрын

    Anakin had perfected the blending of Djem So, Ataru and the defensive techniques of Soresu so on technique he was damn near perfect as a duelist. His weakness was his overconfidence and inability to control his emotions. Had he conquered those aspects he would have been absolutely unrivaled. In an alternate universe where he didn't turn to the Dark side and he matured and controlled his inner demons he would have been the ULTIMATE lightsaber duelist

  • @WonderfulHayden
    @WonderfulHayden2 жыл бұрын

    Djem So-reliant duelists like Anakin/Vader are sprinters. They go from 0 to 180 in a flash with the intention of shock and awe. If the fight drags on, however, Djem So duelist tire out and lose their advantage as their moves become weaker and sloppier. This is the weakness of the Djem So form. Soresu-reliant duelists like Obi-Wan are long-distance runners. They're not flashy, but the defensive maneuvers are designed to maximize economy of action, so these duelists can outlast everyone if they aren't outgunned initially by the Djem So and potentially Ataru duelists. That's why Soresu is referred to as the impenetrable form. The most experienced duelists have a favoured form, but are flexible enough to switch to other forms when need be. Obi-Wan added in Ataru to his usual Soresu in the Kenobi finale rematch. Vader sprinkles in a few Soresu moves so that he doesn't tire out too early. (Unfortunately, Anakin used Djem So exclusively on Mustafar and became extremely sloppy towards the end, which Obi-Wan took advantage of. Anakin was too emotional and physically exhausted to think straight. In his right mind, he would've realized what a novice move it was to jump uphill over an opponent with an ignited blade who was prepared for his move. )

  • @sideburn260
    @sideburn2602 жыл бұрын

    "Your father, powerful Jedi was he. Mmmm, powerful Jedi" - Yoda

  • @JENNerationX
    @JENNerationX Жыл бұрын

    I love how he fights one handed as DV!

  • @arjunkrishna9624
    @arjunkrishna96242 жыл бұрын

    I have come across the statement that In the novelisation it can be understood that dooku had decided or planned earlier to be defeated by Anakin and was even willing to suffer serious scarring courtesy to sidious/palpatine treachery where by dooku would be arrested and finally general grievous will held responsible for all the wrong doings. That is if dooku wanted to defeat Anakin he could and would have ,but ofcourse it won't be a cakewalk since opponent is Anakin and probably dooku also knew it is not going to be a cakewalk.

  • @cherrytonshawty9120
    @cherrytonshawty91204 ай бұрын

    Obi-Wan knew he wouldn't beat Vader one-on-one, so he, in a way, used the Sith Lord's own clouded judgement against him. Even at the very end of the Clone Wars and after all he had learned, Skywalker's arrogance and fall to the Dark Side allowed the weaker but much more clear-minded Kenobi to defeat him. Not to mention that more than basically ANYBODY, Obi-Wan more or less knew how Anakin functioned as a fighter, a benefit of being his Master afterall. Even still, I feel like if Anakin's judgement wasn't so smothered by his anger and hatred, he may not have made such a costly mistake. Just my thoughts.

  • @Hiipower23
    @Hiipower23 Жыл бұрын

    Thumbnail 🔥🔥🔥🔥

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