An Independent People - Ulster-Scots Presbyterians

An extended trail for documentary film called 'An Independent People - Ulster's Presbyterians', now available on DVD. They were the Scots that settled in Ulster and later the Scotch-Irish that settled the American colonies.

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  • @raymondhaskin9449
    @raymondhaskin94492 жыл бұрын

    Love the Ulster Scots. Ulster’s loyalists and America’s cowboys. The greatest heritage.

  • @conlaiarla

    @conlaiarla

    2 жыл бұрын

    All living in the past. Obsolete and irrelevant.

  • @Jamestele1

    @Jamestele1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@conlaiarla Only it is not the past. Just like African culture, English culture, Roman, Asian and the rest. They were the seeds that made the music of today, the ways of life, etc.

  • @jamieinu9872

    @jamieinu9872

    Жыл бұрын

    @@conlaiarla "All living in the past. Obsolete and irrelevant." says the person using the name "Deus Vult".

  • @carloshannon8346

    @carloshannon8346

    Жыл бұрын

    @@conlaiarla says the guy with a Knights Templar name and picture???

  • @oosthuizen2012

    @oosthuizen2012

    Жыл бұрын

    @@conlaiarla if not supporting sodomy means I’m living in the past then sure

  • @kennystemp8636
    @kennystemp86364 жыл бұрын

    The Ulster Scots have a very impressive history. Sadly, here in the U.S., most Scottish Americans mistakenly think they are Irish, because of the confusing Scots-Irish label. Most Scottish Americans dropped the Scots part of Scots-Irish, and just call themselves Irish, not realizing the history of the name, and that it should be the other way around, with the Irish part dropped, and should just simply call themselves Scottish Americans.

  • @johnshelton1141

    @johnshelton1141

    4 жыл бұрын

    You are correct!

  • @johnpatrick5307

    @johnpatrick5307

    4 жыл бұрын

    Exactly the wrong way round! - the people called themselves "Irish", and they came from all over Ireland - "Scots-Irish" was invented later....

  • @johnshelton1141

    @johnshelton1141

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@johnpatrick5307 But were mostly Ulster-Scots in the 1700's. The bulk of the native Irish came in the 1800's. Two different groups of immigrants with different accomplishments here.

  • @johnpatrick5307

    @johnpatrick5307

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@johnshelton1141 No, you're wrong, the native Irish would have been the bulk of the immigrants - this "Ulster Scot" thing was a later invention, to write the Irish out of the story: they called themselves "Irish". Dolly Parton is Irish, for instance.

  • @kennystemp8636

    @kennystemp8636

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@johnpatrick5307 No, you are the one who is wrong John Patrick. The Ulster Scots (Scots-Irish) never called themselves "Irish" in Ulster. They called themselves Ulster Scots, because they are Scottish, not Irish. And John Shelton is correct, and obviously knows history much better than you do. It was these Scottish settlers from Ulster who came to the American colonies back in the 1700s. And as John Shelton correctly stated, the true Irish didn't come here until the 1800s. Also, about 75% of the Scots-Irish were Scottish, while about 25% of the Scots-Irish were actually English, because some English settled Ulster along with the lowland Scots. Dolly Parton is not Irish, she is Scots-Irish, but I don't think she is Scottish, but rather English. It was these Scottish and English settlers, the Scots-Irish that settled the southern states. The Irish, when they came here, went to the big cities of the north, like Boston, New York, Chicago, etc. Country singers are mostly of Scottish decent, like Johnny Cash. And a lot of rock singers are of Scottish decent, like Elvis Presley, Jim Morrison, Alice Cooper, Kurt Cobain, etc.

  • @nopenope4158
    @nopenope41582 жыл бұрын

    HANDS ACROSS THE WATER MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS

  • @slantsix6344
    @slantsix63446 жыл бұрын

    The time it took for England to make a decision on an important government issue took months during Colonial times. This is what really frustrated those here in the states. By the time England had replied, the issue was over and the time to act long gone in many cases. Also, if you were Presbyterian, Lutheran, Baptist etc. Your taxes were being used by a totally different Anglican denomination that you had nothing to do with. This was especially hard if you earned little in wages. The country was so huge compared to England that you could have whole towns with no contact with anything English. The US is still over 80% rural, lots of land over here still.

  • @paulbrowne3033
    @paulbrowne30333 жыл бұрын

    But a divided people most supported American independence a minority remained loyalist and went to Canada some Highlanders from Georgia These loyalists seem to be remembered a lot more than the patriotic Presbyterian people who were the backbone of the revolution

  • @manlyburns5772

    @manlyburns5772

    3 жыл бұрын

    closer to a third were loyalist, and most did not go to canada

  • @irishaware

    @irishaware

    3 жыл бұрын

    Backbone were Irish. Most who emigrated to America from Ireland in the 17th and 18th centuries (obviously the 19th & 20th) sailed as Irish not scots or scotch anything and did so from southern ports. The sailing ship records prove it!

  • @manlyburns5772

    @manlyburns5772

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@irishaware There's a book called Cracker Culture: Celtic Ways in the Old South, first few pages sting but the rest is awesome, i bet u'd love it Irishaware

  • @manlyburns5772

    @manlyburns5772

    3 жыл бұрын

    stink* not sting

  • @fishinwidow35

    @fishinwidow35

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@irishaware They were called Irish because they sailed from Ireland. Many had parents or grandparents who had moved to Ireland from Scotland so were technically "Irish" but had very Scottish roots. This is why they were called Scots-Irish or Ulster Scots. Irish immigration was a separate movement.

  • @christiansmith4421
    @christiansmith44212 ай бұрын

    Im an Ulsrer scot... yet im lutheran by the love of God a Presbyterian.

  • @stevemcgee99
    @stevemcgee997 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see it.

  • @gingerhipszky228
    @gingerhipszky2282 жыл бұрын

    I have several families that came from Scotland to Ulster.

  • @raymonray5444
    @raymonray54446 жыл бұрын

    in pursuit of " happiness " !

  • @gruaim
    @gruaim10 ай бұрын

    🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @jeffmarlatt6538
    @jeffmarlatt6538 Жыл бұрын

    What is that orange flag at the 1:11 mark ?

  • @barrycreed9886

    @barrycreed9886

    4 ай бұрын

    The flag of the orange order

  • @brucecollins4729
    @brucecollins47293 жыл бұрын

    many,many of these"ulster scots" would still have been full scots having lived in ulster for a few years or even months then leaving for the americas to jine their earlier scots kin who have been in the carolinas since the late 1500s. do people think they sat in ulster for a couple o centuries then went over in a discounted bulk load.

  • @nancypatterson2215

    @nancypatterson2215

    2 жыл бұрын

    I know that most of all my ancestors came from Ulster, & they all arrived in the 18TH Century. We had many highland Scots joins us from North Carolina, but most were indentured servants or escapees of 1946 Jacobite Rebellion. We also have a sprinkle of Welsh & German. We were the squatters who were 1st to cross The Appalachian Mountains & settle our own forts & communities west of Appalachia.

  • @lostintranslation9680
    @lostintranslation9680 Жыл бұрын

    It’s complicated.

  • @edmoundblack3739
    @edmoundblack37398 ай бұрын

    Any input by the BBC into this programme will anti protestant for those who understand Northern Ireland

  • @hanoitripper1809
    @hanoitripper18094 жыл бұрын

    If someone considers themselve Ulster/Derry, are they a Scotch/Irish? Or just Irish?

  • @MrSoda007

    @MrSoda007

    4 жыл бұрын

    What religion are ya

  • @raibeartthehairypict4696

    @raibeartthehairypict4696

    4 жыл бұрын

    It’s petty simple. If your ancestors were brought to Northern Ireland by the Elizabethan ships, to clear brush, and drain bogs, so the land could be farmed properly. Then Like the majority of Northern Irish people, you can call yourself Ulster-Scots/ Scots-Irish.

  • @cigh7445

    @cigh7445

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you're in Ulster and are Presbyterian/Protestant you're Ulster Irish. If you're Catholic you're just Irish. To plainly answer your question.

  • @hanoitripper1809

    @hanoitripper1809

    4 жыл бұрын

    My mate is born and raised in Australia but with Ulster parents who moved here in the 1970s after the troubles. Not sure what religion they are tho

  • @cigh7445

    @cigh7445

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@hanoitripper1809 What's his family name?

  • @brucecollins641
    @brucecollins6413 ай бұрын

    it was the ulster-scots who started the st patricks day parade in america.

  • @danjackson1802
    @danjackson18022 жыл бұрын

    What’s Russell Crowe doing talking about scotch irish people He’s from new zealand

  • @sobervictory4724
    @sobervictory47242 жыл бұрын

    Get em 😇💗✝️

  • @kingbiscuittime6082
    @kingbiscuittime6082 Жыл бұрын

    ♥️✝️

  • @malcolmcanning548
    @malcolmcanning5484 жыл бұрын

    Anyone know ourstorey not hisstory.. only took me 65yrs of banging drums and thinking the Tim's where thick. .as for the Presbyterian church . Purple reign

  • @TKDragon75
    @TKDragon755 жыл бұрын

    Why is it always Ulster-Scots "Presbyterians"? My family were Ulster-Scot Catholics. Not all of them were Presbyterians. The Catholics of Scotland who went to Ulster deserve to be a part of this history. My family went to Ulster in the 1600's, and to Virginia in the 1750's, they fought in the US Revolution and the US Civil War, for the Union, not the rebs.

  • @TKDragon75

    @TKDragon75

    5 жыл бұрын

    Also fought the Brits in Scotland and Ireland.

  • @cigh7445

    @cigh7445

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TKDragon75 The Ulster Scots were on Britain's side in Ireland you know... It was England who granted them land in Ulster.

  • @imnotsure3334

    @imnotsure3334

    4 жыл бұрын

    Straight White British Protestant yea the the Ulster Scots that we’re living in Ulster at that time we’re on the British side but the Ulster-Scots that emigrated to America in the early 1700’s were on the American. It’s a little bit complicated. LOL

  • @Hisuwashi

    @Hisuwashi

    3 жыл бұрын

    Presbyterians literally named their church after where a priest lives didn't they haha. Though I believe there were penal laws against Catholics in Scotland at that time.

  • @Dom-fx4kt

    @Dom-fx4kt

    3 жыл бұрын

    I cringe whenever I hear Americans refer to Britain as just England. Great Britain is an island, just say England if you're going to be referring to England.

  • @johnoriordan7419
    @johnoriordan74193 жыл бұрын

    Independent people in another country,

  • @itsmesoitis4059

    @itsmesoitis4059

    Жыл бұрын

    Ulster- Scotland. Ulster-Scots. Home sweet home

  • @MarkLowrie-jn2hw
    @MarkLowrie-jn2hw4 ай бұрын

    I really need to start going 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇬🇧💯🫡🫡🫡

  • @godalhakanson9555
    @godalhakanson95556 жыл бұрын

    CAN SOMEONE INFORM ME ON HOW ULSTER PEOPLE PROTECT THEIR KIDS FROM THE INIQUITOUS RC POLICY OF PROMISING TO RAISE THEIR KIDS RC IF THEY MARRY AN RC

  • @bh5817

    @bh5817

    5 жыл бұрын

    What is an RC?

  • @huntermulhall4849

    @huntermulhall4849

    5 жыл бұрын

    B H I assume it means Roman Catholic.

  • @bh5817

    @bh5817

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hunter Mulhall cheers

  • @raibeartthehairypict4696

    @raibeartthehairypict4696

    4 жыл бұрын

    @god al hakanson Make sure you marry in a church of the reformed faith to begin with. Then the choice is between you and the lord. No mere man (ordained or not,) can ask you to make such a huge promise for other humans, your offspring or not. GGG&PYA.

  • @s.leemccauley7302

    @s.leemccauley7302

    3 жыл бұрын

    With all of the sex abuse by priests and the enormity of the problem, it cant be held against those that refuse.

  • @zebramike100
    @zebramike1002 жыл бұрын

    Why in the hell do you call them Irish.They where Scots

  • @Jimmy_Cooper
    @Jimmy_Cooper11 ай бұрын

    What about Ulster Scots Catholics 🤷🏻‍♂️ is that not an untold side of this story

  • @usa2121
    @usa21215 жыл бұрын

    Elliott

  • @johnc6634
    @johnc66346 жыл бұрын

    Its called by some as a Celtic nation . Look deeper into your history to the Picts . Then look later to the Vikings and Normans . There's no true race on the island of Ireland now

  • @cigh7445

    @cigh7445

    4 жыл бұрын

    What in God's name are you talking about?

  • @raibeartthehairypict4696

    @raibeartthehairypict4696

    4 жыл бұрын

    @HourglassShrugged 🎣🐟🐟

  • @johnpatrick5307

    @johnpatrick5307

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Maxwell3773. Lowlanders come from everywhere - they're not really European: www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/aug/15/scotland-dna-study-project

  • @irosoqpsdvjj

    @irosoqpsdvjj

    3 жыл бұрын

    Modern genetic studies say otherwise John

  • @MixerRenegade95

    @MixerRenegade95

    Ай бұрын

    The Vikings and Normans over time had assimilated into the dominant Culture of Ireland which is Celtic, same happened in England.

  • @lotrisveg3266
    @lotrisveg32662 жыл бұрын

    It's called "plantation "

  • @joprocter4573

    @joprocter4573

    Жыл бұрын

    No Irish were pirate n travelling stock

  • @central_scrutinizer
    @central_scrutinizer Жыл бұрын

    Bunch eh panzies.

  • @johnoriordan7419
    @johnoriordan74193 жыл бұрын

    Then they came to Ireland and decided to call it British, should have stayed in Scotland

  • @micahritchie9179

    @micahritchie9179

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lad tell Ur anseters that they should go home from Scotland and I'll tell mine

  • @cherri2469

    @cherri2469

    2 жыл бұрын

    *Mikra Britannia, Ptolemy called it British in 325 B.C even named the British isles after the actual natives the Pritani. geals should of stayed in Spain.

  • @joprocter4573

    @joprocter4573

    Жыл бұрын

    They were at home ulster Scots was connected land until ice split

  • @Bellg
    @Bellg Жыл бұрын

    There is like absolutely no nuance in this documentary. Just a self serving lovestory

  • @davbhoy10
    @davbhoy103 жыл бұрын

    An independent people but want to be colonised by Westminster Makes a whole load a sense eh?

  • @caedmonnoeske3931
    @caedmonnoeske3931 Жыл бұрын

    I'm in a weird spot, as I'm a proud Dutch Reformed/Presbyterian. But I also support Irish independence and love all the old Catholic rebel songs.😂😂

  • @carloshannon8346

    @carloshannon8346

    Жыл бұрын

    Traitor

  • @Bellg

    @Bellg

    Жыл бұрын

    Supporting Irish independence is the correct path. Why should that clash with being dutch reformed

  • @andrewccochrane8052

    @andrewccochrane8052

    Жыл бұрын

    your head is warped my friend brush up on scottish history first then irish then english and the rest iam afraid dont matter SCOTLAND has over 5.000 years of history an intersting little country but everything you hear see and read it was borne in scotland

  • @edmoundblack3739

    @edmoundblack3739

    8 ай бұрын

    Did Catholic rebels help to free your country from Germany ARMY at the end of ww2 I think not men from the UK which ulster is a part off did shame on YOU

  • @MixerRenegade95

    @MixerRenegade95

    Ай бұрын

    @@andrewccochrane8052Doubtful.

  • @wolfthequarrelsome504
    @wolfthequarrelsome5043 жыл бұрын

    Indeed a very dependent people. Dependent on the united kingdom. They compromised when they helped the rebellion against the same crown threy swear they are loyal to in the north of Ireland.

  • @CosmicHyperborean
    @CosmicHyperborean6 жыл бұрын

    There's nothing nastier than Ulster-Scots Presbyterians.

  • @mysticpizza02

    @mysticpizza02

    5 жыл бұрын

    Maybe Irish catholic nuns and priests

  • @calumroney7352

    @calumroney7352

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hey Chris?,nasty?,the Roman Catholic church has more blood on its hands than most for gods sake.You sound like a typical brainwashed idiot.The Presbyterian church allows freedom of thought and has democracy in its DNA and we certainly don't feel the need for ANY priest,bishop,cardinal or bloody pope to be the go between for men and women and God.Presbyterians mainly from Scotland and Ulster made America what it is today and the MUCH LATER Catholic Irish arrivals have tried to hijack America's history for themselves.The American constitution and the Declaration of independence are based on the belief of religious freedom among other things such as the World famous Declaration of Arbroath which was influenced by the Templars who fought for the Bruce at Bannockburn and turned the tide in favour of the Scots.You would do well to actually read history instead of coming on this and making a complete fanny of yourself.

  • @npvols4321

    @npvols4321

    5 жыл бұрын

    Your mother loves it...

  • @raibeartthehairypict4696

    @raibeartthehairypict4696

    4 жыл бұрын

    Calum Roney Here here! It’s only hatred they’re indoctrinated with. History and facts are foreign to the vast majority of them!

  • @johnpatrick5307

    @johnpatrick5307

    4 жыл бұрын

    @HourglassShrugged I think they are a warning against the mixing of races: www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/aug/15/scotland-dna-study-project

  • @johnryan3897
    @johnryan3897 Жыл бұрын

    I dont like orange men the irish catholic should be domenant on our own island

  • @fci1

    @fci1

    Жыл бұрын

    🥱🥱🥱🥱

  • @andrewccochrane8052

    @andrewccochrane8052

    Жыл бұрын

    idiot

  • @johnryan3897

    @johnryan3897

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andrewccochrane8052 TÍOCHAODH AR LÁ. 1st BATTALION I.R.A.

  • @johnryan3897

    @johnryan3897

    Жыл бұрын

    @VVV Never said i was in it just support them

  • @johnryan3897

    @johnryan3897

    Жыл бұрын

    @VVV Dunno what they tell you in England but that aint true bud